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  • [00:00:28] * Set by KotH!~attila@erica.kinali.ch on Wed Jul 15 13:55:07 UTC 2015
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  • [02:18:37] <zmatt> veremit: just noticed your question about eMMC in my history: yes, the Kingston is faster than the Micron
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  • [04:20:50] <damjan__> anyone have experince with dvi out from the BeagleBoard-xM? I'm trying to connect to my DELL u2412m LCD with a hdmi-dvi cable, but the monitor complains.
  • [04:21:13] <damjan__> this is what the monitor reports on the desktop (xrandr output) http://vpaste.net/vkC5b
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  • [04:24:12] <damjan__> I've tried adding dvimode=1024x768MR-16@60 and 800x600MR-16@60 in uEnv.txt but that didn't change anything
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  • [04:26:20] <damjan> let me log in more permanently here :) bye damjan__
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  • [04:28:39] <veremit> zmatt. thanks
  • [04:30:08] <av500> damjan: do you have a serial console on the XM?
  • [04:30:37] <damjan> av500: not currently. I'll have to get it tomorrow
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  • [04:32:54] <damjan> I wonder if defaultdisplay=dvi is the default?
  • [04:35:55] <damjan> I guess I cant continue tonight
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  • [13:46:47] <GErmany-Boy> Hi....
  • [13:46:59] <GErmany-Boy> can everyone help me plz... :-(
  • [13:47:25] <stt_michael> ...no...
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  • [13:49:19] <Mourad> Hi...
  • [13:50:16] <Mourad> how can i change my USB-IP Address from my BEaglboard ! i have to connect two Board with some PC. and i have always the Conclit IP Addres with 192.68.7.2
  • [13:50:34] <Mourad> conclit= conflict
  • [13:51:37] <Mourad> any Idea... :) !?
  • [13:55:09] <Mourad> Hello..... Everybody here !!!?
  • [13:55:12] <Mourad> :-O
  • [13:57:57] <tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  • [13:58:57] <tbr> have you tried looking at the scripts in /opt?
  • [13:59:08] <tbr> which distribution are you running?
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  • [14:27:19] <Mourad> hi...
  • [14:27:54] <Mourad> 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [14:30:29] <tbr> looks like a standard debian
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  • [14:31:45] <Mourad> yes..
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  • [14:32:13] <Mourad> i have make this tutorial
  • [14:32:14] <Mourad> http://ewong.me/changing-usb0-ip-address-on-the-beaglebone-black/
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  • [14:32:35] <Mourad> but then i can not connect with my usb
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  • [14:33:45] <tbr> yes, that looks correct. make sure to change all 3 files
  • [14:35:29] <Mourad> ok i try to make it
  • [14:35:42] <Mourad> thank u very mush
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  • [15:28:10] <thisisbrians> Does anyone have a solution for flashing multiple BBBs at a time?
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  • [15:28:40] <tbr> multiple microSD cards
  • [15:28:58] <thisisbrians> I was hoping to use PXE to boot from the network, but it doesn't look like the BBB supports that...
  • [15:29:28] <tbr> not pxe
  • [15:29:33] <bradfa> thisisbrians, you should be able to use u-boot's netboot ability to pull a kernel and dts via TFTP and then get your rootfs via NFS or tftp, too
  • [15:29:46] <tbr> yes
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  • [15:31:12] <thisisbrians> bradfa: that was my next inkling. Could I then image the onboard flash without issue once booted from a remote rootfs?
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  • [15:33:50] <rcn-ee> thisisbrians, "onboard eMMC"... it's all up to your eMMC writing script...
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  • [15:37:10] <thisisbrians> rcn-ee: I am currently using a microSD card built with your eMMC flasher image creator for my own custom image.
  • [15:38:17] <thisisbrians> That works great for writing to the eMMC when using a microSD card (way faster than just dd'ing the whole thing, as you well know). I was hoping I could do something similar from netboot to avoid the sd card entirely.
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  • [15:41:00] <rcn-ee> thisisbrians, here's an idea.. tftp boot into ram based initramfs, nfs mount, then use this script: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/tools/eMMC/init-eMMC-flasher-from-usb-media.sh
  • [15:41:22] <rcn-ee> ^ that script could be hacked to nfs mount and grab the *.img.xz *.bmap files..
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  • [15:46:45] <thisisbrians> rcn-ee: thanks. so get those files over the network via nfs instead of from usb, right?
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  • [15:49:51] <rcn-ee> thisisbrians, correct, switch the script instead of mountin /dev/sda1 to 192.x.x.x.x:/opt/xyz/
  • [15:50:46] <rcn-ee> remember, you'll need to hack up an initramfs to add nfs usersapce support..
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  • [15:59:38] <stt_michael> thisisbrians, BBBlfs is another option .. and rcn-ee did some work chain-loading it .. kinda ..
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  • [15:59:47] <stt_michael> or not.
  • [16:00:12] <rcn-ee> that would work too, but you'd need to also add nfs upport, but that would be easier i think as he used buildroot..
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  • [16:16:11] <thisisbrians> rcn-ee, stt_michael: thanks. i'll see what i can cook up.
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  • [16:17:59] <_av500_> thisisbrians: note that you can also boot a BBB from a PC
  • [16:18:12] <_av500_> so you could hook up a few to a PC and flash them like that
  • [16:18:44] <_av500_> https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs
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  • [16:19:57] <stt_michael> thisisbrians, .. as _av500_ describes .. and you can, in fact, cascade them ..
  • [16:20:16] <stt_michael> to a point.
  • [16:20:31] <stt_michael> but bbblfs works
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  • [16:23:41] <thisisbrians> _av500_: ah i see...that looks really interesting. can i modify u-boot to avoid having to hold S2 during power up?
  • [16:24:41] <rcn-ee> thisisbrians, usb boot, is after mmc... so you need to force (microSD) without a card present..
  • [16:27:20] <stt_michael> solder the s2?!
  • [16:27:22] <stt_michael> lol
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  • [16:28:31] <thisisbrians> haha
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  • [16:29:19] <thisisbrians> i'm talking a bit over my head...i guess there isn't software anywhere that i can change to override the need for a button press? i don't know where the branch in logic due to that button press occurs.
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  • [16:36:07] <stt_michael> thisisbrians, the button press is required to force the boot mode ..
  • [16:36:36] <stt_michael> which is set in jumpers on the board (or resistors and the push switch)
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  • [16:45:36] <thisisbrians> stt_michael: roger. thanks—i wasn't sure if it was pure hardware or not.
  • [16:47:55] <stt_michael> yes, its set by the am335x processor chip .. it is configurable, but only by hardware on initial power-up
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  • [17:49:26] <kaak> given two drivers that declare the same compatible string, a single device, and the corresponding device tree, can anyone help me understand *how* the driver is bound to the device?
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  • [17:49:51] <kaak> I've got a driver that is stealing my device, and I can't figure out how to influence the driver/device binding process
  • [17:52:26] <bradfa> kaak, don't build that driver into your kernel?
  • [17:52:28] <zmatt> if you have two drivers with the same compatible string, something is already wrong
  • [17:52:50] <bradfa> drivers are unique flowers
  • [17:52:53] <bradfa> or snowflakes
  • [17:52:57] * bradfa can't remember which
  • [17:53:17] <kaak> see: `drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_omap.c`, and `drivers/tty/serial/omap-serial.c`
  • [17:54:12] <kaak> it's driving me nuts, because in one DT/Kernel, 8250_omap steals my uarts, and in another DT/Kernel omap-serial gets it
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  • [17:54:47] <kaak> Yeah, disabling seems to be the easiest approach
  • [17:55:05] <zmatt> thisisbrians: the lcd_data 0-15 pins are sampled at power-on-reset deassertion, those values become known as sysboot 0-15 and determine various boot configuration. To set them there are 100K pull resistors on the board, though the SD boot button overrides one of them (sysboot 2) by pulling it to ground with 100 ohm if you press it
  • [17:55:52] <zmatt> thisisbrians: you can also hook up resistors externally to achieve the same effect. I do that e.g. for ethernet booting (sysboot 0 pulled high, sysboot 2 pulled low)
  • [17:57:14] <zmatt> full overview of their purpose can be found in the docs, or more conveniently in the "Boot" tab of my spreadsheet -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CK5c-Cs8G1RtzGo-J3VJsD9m5K-fp06AncgeYWsdjSU/view
  • [17:58:14] <zmatt> (on a BBB, never select a boot mode that includes a 'nand' or 'xip' boot mode)
  • [17:58:29] <zmatt> eh, nand or xip boot device
  • [17:58:38] <zmatt> ERR duplicate use of word 'boot mode' ;P
  • [17:58:59] <zmatt> kaak: normally you never have both of those drivers enabled
  • [17:59:21] <zmatt> supposedly 8250_omap is the replacement of omap-serial, though I have no idea why
  • [17:59:44] <kaak> yeah, omap-serial has the rs485 support I need
  • [18:00:06] <kaak> so you can image my confusion when it suddenly started being stolen by this other driver
  • [18:00:23] <zmatt> I also have omap-serial enabled in my config rather than 8520_omap
  • [18:00:47] <kaak> also, its times like this I wish someone would have put a !8520_omap in the Kconfig dependencies
  • [18:00:54] <kaak> and vice-versa
  • [18:01:54] <kaak> may be of some use to someone: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/dt_debugging.pdf
  • [18:01:55] <zmatt> well then, go forth and submit a patch
  • [18:02:38] <kaak> can you point me to a place with docs on the process?
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  • [18:05:35] <thisisbrians> zmatt: thanks. by "ethernet booting" what exactly do you mean? pxe?
  • [18:05:56] <zmatt> much more simplistic, it uses bootp + tftp
  • [18:06:15] <zmatt> it's convenient for baremetal applications
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  • [18:06:42] <zmatt> I just recompile, reset the board, and ROM will grab the new image from my laptop
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  • [18:09:00] <zmatt> kaak: have you acquired an asbestos suit yet? because that's usually considered step 1 ;-)
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  • [18:11:10] <thisisbrians> zmatt: gotcha. i'm not too familiar with netboot...i've definitely got some homework to do. thanks for the pointer.
  • [18:14:52] <zmatt> thisisbrians: http://pastebin.com/DiHDdgjG
  • [18:16:10] <zmatt> thisisbrians: ROM will grab the designated file from the tftp dir, writing its contents to local SRAM starting at address 0x402f0400, and then jump there
  • [18:19:17] <thisisbrians> got it. what's the size limitation on your image?
  • [18:20:09] <zmatt> iirc little over 100 KB, would need to look it up
  • [18:20:51] <thisisbrians> thanks
  • [18:21:39] <zmatt> there are two consecutive 64 KB SRAMs, at 0x402f0000 and 0x40300000, so RAM end is at 0x40310000, but the first 1 KB of the first SRAM is inaccessible (hence the address 0x402f0400) and some of the memory near the end of the RAM is used by the bootloader while receiving your code
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  • [18:25:44] <zmatt> of course, 127 KB is plenty of space to fit a multitasking OS with full networking stack, but u-boot doesn't even manage to fit a bootloader in there so instead it needs to be loaded using an additional intermediate stage (SPL) :P
  • [18:26:42] <zmatt> which also means that netbooting linux from scratch is complicated by the fact you'd need to manage to build an SPL that can fetch the full u-boot via TFTP
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  • [18:31:26] <zmatt> the first 1 KB is reserved for use by secure ROM... it doesn't actually use it, but it reserved it anyway. Sec ROM appears dedicated to doing stupid shit like that and making the chip less useful in general
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  • [18:34:22] <zmatt> </rant>
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  • [18:37:46] <zmatt> "The maximum size of downloaded image is 109 KB."
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  • [21:26:28] <muery1> hello everyone!
  • [21:27:28] <muery1> I am a newbie
  • [21:28:42] <muery1> I want help with my BBB. I am unable to ping google.com
  • [21:29:13] <muery1> Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.7.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0 0.0.0.0 134.74.185.50 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 134.74.185.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.7.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 usb0
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  • [21:42:08] <veremit> what's in your resolv.conf ?
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  • [23:10:41] <zmatt> veremit: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
  • [23:10:44] <zmatt> ;-)
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  • [23:11:14] <veremit> oh gwd not THAT crap ... lol :P
  • [23:11:51] <zmatt> <3
  • [23:11:57] <veremit> how you supposed to know that's right .. and what wrote it etc ...
  • [23:12:02] <veremit> and when
  • [23:12:24] <zmatt> systemd-resolved will take care of it
  • [23:12:39] <veremit> I don't trust Pottering ... :p
  • [23:12:54] <veremit> and his band of Merry coders :E
  • [23:13:17] <veremit> I Shall Not Be Assimilated !!!
  • [23:13:18] <veremit> lol
  • [23:13:20] <zmatt> I don't know him personally, I just know it works a lot better for us than the crappy scripts it replaces
  • [23:13:59] <veremit> if/when it works .. like all technology ..its fine .. when its broke .. I'd rather edit a text file :)
  • [23:14:54] <veremit> mmm this tuna is good .. even if I overcooked it a bit .. :9 nom
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  • [23:15:37] <veremit> I got Android woes today .. one tablet that refuses to update .. and my bloody phone has lost sound in the phone 'app' :((
  • [23:15:47] <veremit> like .. WHERE IT MATTERS!
  • [23:15:49] <zmatt> actually you can also just override it in your eth0.network text file
  • [23:16:13] <zmatt> have you tried miming instead?
  • [23:16:24] <veremit> yea ... doesn't work long0distance ..
  • [23:16:52] <veremit> the smoke signals are ok for 'local' calls ..
  • [23:17:04] <veremit> until the sun sets ..
  • [23:17:13] <veremit> I need to rig up a beacon
  • [23:17:37] <zmatt> wow, systemd.network gained a lot of options since the last time I looked
  • [23:18:06] <veremit> yea I suspect by comparison, sliced bread is very last millenium ..
  • [23:20:17] <veremit> although, speakin of last millenium .. I still want to buy a bicycle to ride .. costs a lot less than my car ..
  • [23:20:38] <veremit> although the range aint' quite so good
  • [23:20:47] * zmatt walks and uses public transport
  • [23:20:58] <veremit> and passenger comfort is far from optimal if the weather is inclement
  • [23:21:42] <veremit> I do walk occasionally .. about three/four times a year :)
  • [23:21:48] <zmatt> woohoo :P
  • [23:22:30] <veremit> yea don't wanna get carried away lol
  • [23:22:38] <veremit> or .. such ..lol
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  • [23:24:07] * zmatt likes being able to choose his own hours
  • [23:25:16] <zmatt> being in the office when noone is around is excellent, I turn up the volume on music, nobody's hoarding the scope if I need it, no infernal CNC machine making a sound that makes your brains dribble out of your ears
  • [23:27:42] <veremit> amen to that
  • [23:27:46] <veremit> aLL of that !
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  • [23:28:25] <veremit> we have 5
  • [23:28:34] <zmatt> CNC machines?
  • [23:28:37] <veremit> varying pitches of brain dribbling
  • [23:28:39] <zmatt> /o\
  • [23:28:43] <veremit> 4 mills and 2 lathes
  • [23:28:46] * zmatt flees in horror
  • [23:28:46] <veremit> 6 then.
  • [23:29:17] <veremit> yea working at night is bliss
  • [23:29:59] <veremit> unless someone randomly decides to Dyno an engine ... although .. tbh thats nothing against cnc bearing/spindle whine ..
  • [23:30:06] <zmatt> plus, it's always a surprise what kind of weird stuff I'll find when I get here
  • [23:30:51] <zmatt> like "yeah, we can borrow a mixer console" ... I thought it was going to take up some of my desk space... but no, http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/werk/2012-09-27-0115-0977.jpg
  • [23:31:27] <veremit> damn that's a Beast
  • [23:32:04] <veremit> 20-channel frame is about my biggest
  • [23:32:15] <veremit> usually only about 12 are populated
  • [23:32:38] <veremit> or 16.
  • [23:32:40] <veremit> thereabouts
  • [23:32:47] <zmatt> finding this was also funny -> http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/werk/2013-11-12-0416-1823.jpg
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  • [23:32:58] <veremit> 12 is a couple too-few
  • [23:33:08] <zmatt> damn, can't believe how empty the place was back then
  • [23:33:36] <veremit> nice rig .. the right hand cones don't look quite right somehow though ...
  • [23:33:56] <zmatt> they're jsut a bunch of random prototypes stacked for fun
  • [23:34:04] <veremit> far do's
  • [23:34:07] <veremit> fair*
  • [23:34:39] <zmatt> the monitor in the middle-top is the one I still use for my music though... doesn't need a separate sub, it does a fine job on its own
  • [23:34:41] <veremit> my boss appears to have taken up the new development area for audio purposes ..
  • [23:35:09] <veremit> got his crazy pipe-based floor standers in there
  • [23:35:19] <veremit> I've yet to hear them actually .. supposed to be quite good
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  • [23:37:45] <veremit> http://www.linkwitzlab.com/Pluto/Pluto-2.1.htm
  • [23:38:18] <zmatt> ah, and there's that pic I was looking for of when I was doing pmic testing... the poor thing looked like it was on an intensive care unit or something -> http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/werk/bbb-pmic-testing.jpg
  • [23:39:07] <zmatt> linkwitz, there's a name
  • [23:39:42] <veremit> indeed
  • [23:40:05] <zmatt> our speakers are briefly mentioned somewhere on that site too I think
  • [23:40:25] <veremit> life support beagle ..
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  • [23:41:30] <zmatt> http://www.linkwitzlab.com/Constant_directivity_louds.htm#Commercial second one from the top
  • [23:41:46] <zmatt> (you have to admit, our pics look better than their Meier's frequency plot)
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  • [23:41:52] <zmatt> s/their //
  • [23:42:23] <veremit> shit .. had I know that when I Was out in CA >. I was just down the road .. or up as it happens ..
  • [23:42:59] <zmatt> CA ?
  • [23:43:01] <veremit> dutch + dutch ?
  • [23:43:03] <veremit> california
  • [23:43:10] <zmatt> we're in the Netherlands
  • [23:43:32] <veremit> yea I was pickin up a dutch flavour ... ;P
  • [23:43:37] <zmatt> hehe
  • [23:43:58] <veremit> <= SW England currently
  • [23:44:14] <veremit> another of the European crows
  • [23:44:17] <veremit> crowd*
  • [23:44:23] <veremit> jees .. can't trypo
  • [23:44:29] <zmatt> in a hick town that will make customs go "you're going where? ... ... *why* ? o.O "
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  • [23:44:45] <veremit> in the sticks ..
  • [23:44:52] <veremit> heh nice
  • [23:45:16] <veremit> friend of mine spent some time out there
  • [23:46:40] <zmatt> the place has also gotten much nicer since that pic... not just bare concrete anymore, the listening area has a carpet, and a couch
  • [23:47:39] <veremit> that helps .. keeps the echo and room reverb down
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  • [23:48:00] <veremit> furniture discourages resonances
  • [23:48:05] <zmatt> yes, a giant concrete hall is somehow not entirely optimal for acoustics
  • [23:48:19] <veremit> you got an anechoic chamber stashed somewhere?
  • [23:48:22] <veremit> those are funky
  • [23:48:26] <zmatt> no. been in one though
  • [23:48:28] <zmatt> they are indeed
  • [23:48:40] <veremit> yeah I never had the door shut on the one I went to
  • [23:48:42] <zmatt> standing on a net suspended in the air... *bounce bounce*
  • [23:48:48] <veremit> yip yip
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  • [23:49:03] <zmatt> I had
  • [23:49:24] <veremit> they say you can't hear someone talking next to you .. if they face away ..
  • [23:50:04] <zmatt> I don't think we emit sound with such high directivity
  • [23:50:18] <veremit> I've done a fair bit of work in radio/microwave chambers .. emc and radio propagation testing
  • [23:50:25] <veremit> no .. true ..
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  • [23:52:14] <veremit> so where does the beaglebone fall into this crazy world then?
  • [23:52:18] <veremit> fall/fit
  • [23:53:19] <veremit> its sadly lacking in audio hardware out-of-the-box ..
  • [23:53:37] <zmatt> but it has spi to control the dsp
  • [23:53:52] <veremit> iirc the mcasp pins are muxed with the bloody hdmi rgb data pins
  • [23:53:59] <zmatt> no
  • [23:54:07] <veremit> or is there another set ..
  • [23:54:08] <zmatt> mcasp pins are used for hdmi audio
  • [23:54:14] <veremit> d'oh right
  • [23:54:15] <zmatt> but we don't use hdmi anyway
  • [23:54:20] <veremit> no .. nasty thing
  • [23:54:27] <veremit> esp. on that silly micro connector
  • [23:54:31] <zmatt> actually the framer seems quite nice
  • [23:54:40] <zmatt> μHDMI is indeed an iffy connector
  • [23:54:41] <veremit> it does its job ..
  • [23:55:00] <veremit> I noticed there aren't as many red & blue pins as green ..
  • [23:55:09] <zmatt> 565, that's normal 16-bit color
  • [23:55:17] <zmatt> we're more sensitive in green
  • [23:55:18] <veremit> ah 24bit is 666
  • [23:55:21] <zmatt> 888
  • [23:55:26] <veremit> damnit yup
  • [23:55:26] <zmatt> 666 is 18-bit :P
  • [23:55:42] <veremit> I woke at 4:45 .. its gettin late :p
  • [23:55:47] <veremit> am!
  • [23:56:00] <zmatt> but why would you do such a thing?
  • [23:56:02] <zmatt> ;)
  • [23:56:12] <veremit> because.
  • [23:56:50] <veremit> my head starting into a bash script project a friend has been working on .. and then some other random crap I really didn't want to think about at 5am ..
  • [23:57:06] <zmatt> oh boy, a bash script project
  • [23:57:10] <veremit> by5:20 I was outta bed ..
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  • [23:57:22] <zmatt> ideally a bash script should never be a project
  • [23:57:44] <zmatt> by the time it is one, something other than bash scripting has probably become more relevant
  • [23:57:46] <veremit> its "only" a monitoring script really .. but its grown in scope
  • [23:57:49] <zmatt> *more appropriate
  • [23:57:52] <zmatt> yeah that
  • [23:58:09] <veremit> and now it needs smashiing in two
  • [23:58:22] <veremit> runs from cron
  • [23:58:30] <zmatt> proper smashing is always into at least three pieces
  • [23:58:35] <veremit> oh definitely
  • [23:58:44] <veremit> this is token gesture :)
  • [23:59:00] <zmatt> two is more like, splitting a candy bar for sharing
  • [23:59:06] <veremit> or 'bisection' if you're bein pedantic :p
  • [23:59:46] <zmatt> I still miss our original dm814x-based board though
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