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  • [03:49:15] <mrpackethead_2> i'm wondering if there is a guru here, with experience in measuring High speed Differential Signals ( ethernet ) to create Eye Diagrams
  • [03:49:26] <mrpackethead_2> KotH: that sounds like you
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  • [04:48:59] <mrpackethead_2> hello.. its scary quiet.
  • [04:50:09] * av500 throws some chairs around
  • [04:50:21] <mrpackethead_2> hey av500
  • [04:50:33] <mrpackethead_2> i just wondered if everyone had been poisoned.
  • [04:52:58] <av500> sunday night, monday morn
  • [04:53:06] <av500> people are drunk on beer or herbal tea
  • [04:58:55] <mrpackethead_2> monday evening now
  • [04:59:16] <av500> you are special :)
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  • [05:05:39] <chanty_> my BBB is not booting through sd card. i have followed this tutorial http://www.armhf.com/boards/beaglebone-black/bbb-sd-install/ . i press boot switch and give power still i am unable to boot into sd card. please help me out
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  • [05:44:16] <tbr> chanty_: try a different image
  • [05:45:07] <tbr> and by that I mean one that doesn't need so many manual steps, but just a dd
  • [05:45:55] <chanty_> @tbr i have tried to download an image from here https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-vmware-arm-image-download/ which is of kali linux. but still i am unable to boot. i amn't able to figure out whether its uEnv.txt problem or something else
  • [05:46:58] <tbr> try one of these http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Releases
  • [05:47:13] <tbr> to boot from sd you want a 'standalone' image
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  • [05:53:20] <chanty_> okay thanks <tbr> . i am downloading it. do you have any good reference for uEnv.txt ? if so please give me.
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  • [05:55:14] <tbr> never messed with uenv.txt, never had to
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  • [06:28:32] <chanty_> <tbr> that worked magically. thank you so much
  • [06:29:15] <tbr> chanty_: this confirms what I suspected. Something went wrong during preparation
  • [06:30:50] <chanty_> very much correct <tbr> but i used it before the tutorial i was mentioning. but suddenly today it didn't work
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  • [07:11:16] <KotH> mrpackethead_2: use one of the jitter meters
  • [07:11:39] <mrpackethead_2> hey KotH
  • [07:11:47] <KotH> mrpackethead_2: costs an arm and a leg, but there is no way around it
  • [07:12:13] <mrpackethead_2> i've spent a fair amoutn of time trying to find ways to do this.
  • [07:12:17] <mrpackethead_2> and lots of reading.
  • [07:12:34] <mrpackethead_2> and its a topic that doesnt have wide coverage.
  • [07:12:50] <mrpackethead_2> seems its dark magic restricted to a few guru types.
  • [07:13:21] <KotH> yes its black magic, no its well documented
  • [07:13:31] <mrpackethead_2> really?
  • [07:13:44] <mrpackethead_2> creating a Eye diagram shoud'tn be too hard though.
  • [07:13:54] <mrpackethead_2> And that is a good starting point at least.
  • [07:14:50] <KotH> yes ut's fairly easy....to do wrong
  • [07:15:06] * KotH sets mode -o KotH
  • [07:15:27] <mrpackethead_2> i dont' have any differential probes for my scope. so was trying to do a poor mans version
  • [07:15:33] <mrpackethead_2> and subtract one channel from the other.
  • [07:15:37] <mrpackethead_2> on 10M ethernet
  • [07:17:03] <KotH> a digital scope will not work for this
  • [07:17:19] <mrpackethead_2> ?
  • [07:17:23] <KotH> unless we are talking about jitter in the us range
  • [07:17:26] <tbr> you could say it's out of scope *zing*
  • [07:17:31] <mrpackethead_2> plenty of docs suggest otherwise.
  • [07:17:39] <mrpackethead_2> tbr: 7.5/10 for that
  • [07:18:02] <tbr> :>
  • [07:18:27] <mrpackethead_2> i don't think that jitter is likely to be in the us range.
  • [07:18:34] <mrpackethead_2> if it was, it wouldnt be working.
  • [07:18:54] <mrpackethead_2> my scope is sampling at 1Gs
  • [07:18:59] <mrpackethead_2> my scope is sampling at 1Gs/s
  • [07:19:20] <KotH> just because peoole do stupid things, don't realize what they are doing wrong and "report" on it, still does not mean it's a good idea
  • [07:23:06] <mrpackethead_2> well, the other test that is "it just works"
  • [07:23:35] <mrpackethead_2> i can stick 100m of cat 5 between my dut, and the switch, and it works and i get no dropped packets, no framing errors, etc etc
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  • [07:23:48] <mrpackethead_2> thats all fine, till it doe'snt work and you ust dont' know why.
  • [07:24:03] <mrpackethead_2> i thought that some learning wont' got a miss here.
  • [07:24:37] <av500> continental drift jitter
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  • [08:14:15] <Evangel> From a uSD card, it won't even get that far on the integrated stuff
  • [08:15:52] <av500> ** Partition 1 not valid on device 0 **
  • [08:16:39] <Evangel> Which should be the boot partition with MLO and u-boot.img on the uSD, right?
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  • [10:52:29] <Peter_L> Hi - I'm trying to duplicate Molloy's 13.A6 - the ADS7883 ADC. Ive got his .bin and .c programs running. The C code says that the DDR Data Pool is at 0x9f640000. If I try to read from that address I get a segmentation error. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
  • [10:58:36] <tbr> huh?
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  • [13:42:38] <fr1> hi
  • [13:43:46] <fr1> somebody has worked with snmp?
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  • [14:23:55] <fr1> I do not get on my board, how to read and update variables declared in the MIB
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  • [14:47:38] <fr1> no snmp on bbb? :-)
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  • [14:54:24] <Semi_> Hello, I was wondering if anyone had run into issues connecting via USB to the beaglebone Black. I've got the drivers installed, and can verify that other computers can talk to it, but it won't even show up as a connected USB device
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  • [14:55:05] <Semi_> I'm running windows 8.1 connecting via putty if that helps
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  • [15:16:11] <abferm> Semi_: Try a different port.
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  • [17:27:18] <rcn-ee> abferm, systemd fixes up the issue on bootup and a udev rule fixes userspace...
  • [17:27:20] <abferm> for the console perameter at boot?
  • [17:27:39] <rcn-ee> so if your using "sysv.." well...
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  • [17:36:14] <_av500_> just*
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  • [18:32:47] <thurgoo__> the ttyO serial ports are optimized for omap (or so I was led to believe), can support much higher bandwidth than the older ttyS
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  • [18:33:53] <tbr> that's just BS
  • [18:34:15] <dank> hey
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  • [18:34:58] <veremit> bye :p
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  • [18:38:08] <thurgoo__> tbr, try taking ttyS up past 115200
  • [18:38:16] <thurgoo__> then repeat with ttyO
  • [18:38:37] <thurgoo__> the only part I'm not sure about was the O being omap specific
  • [18:39:33] <tbr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Oct 6 19:27 /dev/ttyO0 -> ttyS0
  • [18:39:33] <tbr> crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 64 Oct 6 19:27 /dev/ttyS0
  • [18:39:52] <thurgoo__> ttyO will handle bluetooth control signals at I think 2.5Mb
  • [18:40:26] <veremit> might be hitting a dma bug .. what kernel version?
  • [18:40:47] <thurgoo__> back in the 3.0 days
  • [18:41:17] <veremit> well if you're runnign prehistoric kernels .. expect bugs :p
  • [18:41:20] <thurgoo__> when ttyO first came into the mainline stuff
  • [18:41:47] <thurgoo__> I'm not experiencing bugs, just stating that it was more than a filename change
  • [18:41:50] <veremit> omap_serial has been deprecated these days
  • [18:42:47] * tbr has used OMAP3 with some 2.6.xx kernel at ~1MBaud
  • [18:43:19] <thurgoo__> it switched in 2.6.35 If memory serves
  • [18:43:58] <thurgoo__> we used 2.6.32 for a long time :/
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  • [18:57:50] <ds2> the omap specific driver is a stupid idea
  • [18:58:03] <ds2> should've just offered patches on top of the stock 8250 tree
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  • [19:52:46] <abferm> Is there a way to prevent the beaglebone from drawing current over usb, but have it connected for communication purposes? I have tried just cutting the vbus line on my cable, but it apears that the beaglebone uses the vbus line to detect that it is plugged in.
  • [19:53:24] <veremit> d'oh
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  • [19:55:18] <abferm> My beaglebones are powered via another source, and I want to be able to ensure that the usb isn't interfering with the power network. It is just there for debugging purposes.
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  • [19:57:06] <rcn-ee> abferm, grab some 3.3v ftdi usb-serial cables an go thru ttyS0...
  • [19:58:44] <abferm> rcn-ee: yeah, that would work if I was only interested in a console, but usb gives me networking and direct disk access if I need it...
  • [19:59:28] <veremit> and a free headache :D
  • [19:59:30] <rcn-ee> then your stuck with the usb power draw..
  • [19:59:56] <veremit> you -might- just be able to 'frig' the pmic ..
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  • [20:04:43] <abferm> veremit: I'd rather not modify my custom ordered BeagleBone Blacks... CitcuitCo charges a little more when you order them with industrial temperature range components and conformal coating.
  • [20:04:58] <veremit> I mean over i2c ..
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  • [20:05:39] <veremit> but I think the priority is set via hardware .. which vin pins are used, etc.
  • [20:05:39] <abferm> veremit, are you saying I might be able to tell it to fake vbus power?
  • [20:06:10] <veremit> I'm not sure .. zmatt might know
  • [20:08:21] <rcn-ee> you could just cut the usb pin on the tps and gnd it.. it would only start then with dc power..
  • [20:08:24] <veremit> I've not dabbled with the control interface
  • [20:08:48] <veremit> that's another option
  • [20:09:03] <rcn-ee> abferm, go read http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps65217.pdf ;)
  • [20:11:50] <rcn-ee> there is a usb_en (d4 - 0x01)...
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  • [20:13:33] <ds2> yes there is
  • [20:13:39] <ds2> you need to unF the u-boot
  • [20:13:54] <ds2> the U-boot is setup to blow up your USB port if given an opportunity
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  • [20:34:28] <zmatt> hmmwhat?
  • [20:34:35] <veremit> there's a define in uboot .. > +#define TPS65217_PWR_SRC_USB_BITMASK 0x4
  • [20:34:55] <zmatt> abferm: you want to prevent the pmic from drawing power from usb?
  • [20:35:00] <zmatt> there's a bit for that
  • [20:35:04] <veremit> operating on > +#define TPS65217_PWR_SRC_USB_BITMASK 0x4
  • [20:35:24] <veremit> whether its easier to do in uboot or downstream ...
  • [20:35:31] <zmatt> u-boot
  • [20:35:37] <zmatt> provided it's not meddled with by linux
  • [20:36:10] <zmatt> actually, it might be easy from userspace also, but I've never tried that
  • [20:36:18] <zmatt> hold on, I just got home, still need to unpack my bbb
  • [20:36:41] <veremit> I bbiaf .. gotta hit the store quick
  • [20:37:07] * zmatt grabs his printout of the tps65217 registers
  • [20:37:42] <zmatt> bit 4 of the power path register needs to be cleared indeed
  • [20:39:18] <abferm> interesting, no way to get the am335x rom to do that by any chance? I currently re-image my beaglebones by booting over usb.
  • [20:40:36] <zmatt> no, but why do you want to do this exactly? I mean, with usb power disabled it needs to be powered via the DC plug, and if it's powered via the DC plug the pmic will prefer that over usb anyway
  • [20:41:22] <abferm> I'm actually powering from a cape
  • [20:41:31] <abferm> over the header pins.
  • [20:41:39] <zmatt> DC_5V
  • [20:42:02] <zmatt> same thing, those pins are wired straight to the barrel jack
  • [20:42:32] <zmatt> with that supply present, the pmic should ignore usb power
  • [20:43:08] <abferm> zmatt: that is good to hear
  • [20:43:46] <zmatt> if you want to be doubleplussure... currently u-boot's default script contains a line:
  • [20:43:51] <zmatt> i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3e
  • [20:44:23] <zmatt> which is actually meant to raise the max current drawn from usb
  • [20:44:43] <abferm> but what if dc power disapears, ie: I'm trying to powercycle the beaglebone?
  • [20:45:03] <zmatt> then it should switch over... if you want to prevent that you'll need to write the register
  • [20:45:16] <zmatt> but note that all pmic registers reset to defaults after shutdown
  • [20:46:09] <zmatt> anyway
  • [20:46:22] <zmatt> i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3e # max 1300 mA
  • [20:46:43] <zmatt> i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3d # max 500 mA (reset default)
  • [20:46:57] <zmatt> i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3c # max 100 mA
  • [20:47:04] <zmatt> i2c mw 0x24 1 0x2c # usb power disabled
  • [20:48:10] <zmatt> note that you can power-cycle the BBB by long pressing the power button
  • [20:48:33] <zmatt> that avoids the need to kill the actual supply hence won't risk power being drawn from usb
  • [20:53:50] <zmatt> heh, or you can probably power cycle by writing zero to that register... forces the pmic to switch to battery power, i.e. the capacitors on SYS_5V, which won't last long ;)
  • [20:55:45] <zmatt> (might actually cause a shutdown instead though...)
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  • [20:58:45] <zmatt> yeah it does (though it'll then boot again if you press the power button or unplug usb)
  • [20:59:11] <zero_> Yo guys, quick question. If I RDP to BBB it connects, but I can't find what the username / pw is
  • [20:59:41] <zero_> what is the xrdp username/password?
  • [21:00:23] * zmatt didn't know xrdp was even installed
  • [21:00:32] <zmatt> it's not simply debian/temppwd ?
  • [21:00:47] <zero_> let me test
  • [21:01:20] <zero_> lol thanks
  • [21:01:24] <zero_> it worked i feel like a moron now
  • [21:03:58] <zero_> yea I was also surprised. the latest image has xrdp out of the box
  • [21:04:23] <zero_> this is great for me because I have tested the HDMI output on 4 different screens and it never works
  • [21:05:33] <zmatt> abferm: yeah as I feared, even if usb power is disabled and all pmic irqs have been cleared, cutting DC power while usb is plugged in causes it to shutdown but then power up on usb one second later
  • [21:05:37] <zmatt> zero_: which kernel?
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  • [21:07:19] <zero_> beaglebone:~# 3.8.13-bone72
  • [21:07:43] <zmatt> abferm: the problem is that a power *loss* is a pmic event worthy of powering up the system -.-
  • [21:08:07] <zmatt> abferm: the tps65217 really has some deeply idiotic behaviour
  • [21:08:27] <zmatt> zero_: that's quite old
  • [21:08:58] <veremit> tis the 'standard' 3.8 kernel
  • [21:09:34] <zero_> I just loaded whatever image is on the website
  • [21:09:37] <zero_> the latest debian one
  • [21:09:51] <zmatt> there are quite some major changes on lcdc and stuff on the -ti branch though
  • [21:10:02] <zmatt> e.g. 4.1.10-ti-r21
  • [21:10:27] <zero_> where can I find this stuff? I assumed all the latest images would be on this website
  • [21:10:30] <zero_> is that not the case?
  • [21:10:46] <zmatt> I don't know, what did you download from where exactly?
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  • [21:11:01] <zmatt> but you can simply install a newer kernel anyway
  • [21:11:13] <zero_> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [21:11:17] <zmatt> apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-4.1.10-ti-r21
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  • [21:11:58] <veremit> zmatt... the 'official' images are at least 6mo old
  • [21:12:12] * zmatt sighs
  • [21:12:25] <zero_> i'm new to BBB
  • [21:12:33] <zmatt> zero_: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian
  • [21:12:36] <veremit> not sure what's holding them up tbh
  • [21:12:46] <zero_> i have mostly been on Arduino Yun
  • [21:12:57] <zero_> but the Yun linux side only has 64mb of ram which sucks
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  • [21:14:10] <zero_> so I can just apt-get the linux headers to get the latest kernel?
  • [21:14:26] <zmatt> linux-iamge
  • [21:14:28] <zmatt> *image
  • [21:14:48] <zero_> er yea
  • [21:15:07] <zmatt> I'm guessing such an old image still uses Wheezy?
  • [21:15:07] <zero_> how did you know to get that linux image?
  • [21:15:27] <zero_> it looked like it was using Wheezy
  • [21:15:31] <zmatt> -.-
  • [21:15:36] <zero_> i'm new to linux
  • [21:15:39] <zero_> is this bad?
  • [21:15:48] <zmatt> depends on who you talk to
  • [21:15:57] <zero_> let me ask this quick
  • [21:16:06] <zero_> if i grab that linux image
  • [21:16:07] <zero_> 4.1
  • [21:16:18] <zero_> will the Adafruit_BBIO python module still work?
  • [21:16:22] <veremit> go for eewiki.net if you want up-to-date stuff :)
  • [21:16:38] <zmatt> I have no idea, but you can always revert
  • [21:16:47] <zero_> true
  • [21:17:03] <veremit> I think the adafruit stuff is pretty old usually ..
  • [21:17:11] <veremit> or based on old stuff
  • [21:17:13] <zmatt> also, iirc I once looked at that code... and then had to wash my eyes with bleach
  • [21:17:21] <zero_> uhg, working with this embedded stuff is such a huge pain in the ass
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  • [21:17:31] <veremit> noooo .. its fun, really!
  • [21:17:45] <zmatt> zero_: I personally consider "debian stable" to be old cruft and never use anything older than "debian testing"
  • [21:17:52] <zero_> i thought the arduino libraries were bad...
  • [21:18:11] <zmatt> zero_: Wheezy is actually declared obsolete *by debian themselves* ...
  • [21:18:21] <zmatt> so yeah
  • [21:18:30] <zero_> but i only need to update the kernel
  • [21:18:33] <zero_> not the RFS?
  • [21:18:50] <zmatt> I personally would, but you're not required to
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  • [21:19:11] <zero_> but i'm assuming there is no image for flashing
  • [21:19:16] <veremit> debian is ancient or obsolete .. evne the testing packages are Old. lol.
  • [21:19:36] <zmatt> veremit: hell I even occasionally shake my fist at old crap in sid
  • [21:19:46] <veremit> shuold run with gentoo :D
  • [21:19:53] <zero_> i'm just overwhelmed with all the Linux stuff
  • [21:19:58] <zero_> it's really a steep learning curve
  • [21:19:59] <zmatt> zero_: the use of the word "image" is indeed confusing here, but linux-image is just the kernel
  • [21:20:00] <zero_> like vertical
  • [21:20:08] <ds2> U-boot (the last I checked) is sets the PMIC to pull > 500mA
  • [21:20:09] <zmatt> and modules and stuff
  • [21:20:14] <zmatt> ds2: correct
  • [21:20:27] <veremit> ds2: board needs >500 to boot lol
  • [21:20:44] <ds2> USB is not spec'ed for > 500mA
  • [21:20:45] <zero_> what do you guys recommend
  • [21:20:49] <zero_> go to ubuntu?
  • [21:20:57] <zmatt> zero_: lol, no
  • [21:21:02] <veremit> nooo .. not bloatibuntu
  • [21:21:07] <ds2> if it needs that much current, dump the LEDs, Ethernet PHY and HDMI :P
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  • [21:21:30] <zmatt> but then, I'm not a newbie, I grab a console image, apt-get purge unnecessary cruft, upgrade to stretch, and then start building :P
  • [21:21:39] <zmatt> ds2: you can even turn off the power led
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  • [21:21:54] <zero_> i'm new :(
  • [21:22:08] <zero_> i haven't built anything from sources or whatever lol
  • [21:22:09] <zmatt> HDMI is off by default, but indeed don't turn it on if you don't need to
  • [21:22:17] <veremit> zero_.. hang in there .. it ain't -that- bad ..
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  • [21:22:24] <zmatt> zero_: you don't need to build anything from sources
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  • [21:22:49] <zmatt> though actually compiling the kernel is easy with rcn-ee's scripts, takes about 10 minutes on our build machine
  • [21:22:57] <ds2> U-boot doesn't turn it on thesedays?
  • [21:23:04] <zmatt> ds2: never has, never will
  • [21:23:05] <ds2> thought they wanted a logo?
  • [21:23:20] <zero_> well, let me put it this way. I just need to run some python scripts (which works on the "factory" image)
  • [21:23:28] <zero_> but
  • [21:23:29] <ds2> zmatt: on the other boards, they were standard
  • [21:23:35] <zero_> I need I2C to work
  • [21:23:36] <zmatt> ds2: if they'd put up a logo then everyone who's using the lcd_data pins for other purposes than lcd data would stomp them in the face
  • [21:23:54] <veremit> zmatt .. lol, this is true ..
  • [21:24:17] <zero_> what is the easiest way to access the I2C bus from a python program?
  • [21:24:27] <veremit> /dev/i2c-x
  • [21:24:29] <zero_> I was going to use the Adafruit library
  • [21:24:55] <veremit> access it direct
  • [21:24:56] <zmatt> last time I checked, adafruit consisted of really poorly written wrappers around opening files in sysfs and such
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  • [21:25:17] <zmatt> at least the gpio
  • [21:25:18] <zero_> but there is no high level access if I go direct?
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  • [21:25:35] * zmatt goes *error* on "I2C access" and "high level"
  • [21:25:37] <zero_> I don't want to learn the entire I2C protocal just to read a few values :(
  • [21:27:05] <veremit> zero_ .. go get a beer .. come back when it's finished :D
  • [21:27:11] <veremit> lol
  • [21:27:11] <zero_> lol
  • [21:27:16] <zero_> here i want to use this
  • [21:27:17] <zero_> http://www.protovoltaics.com/arduino-rtd-shield/
  • [21:27:18] <ds2> zmatt: that is assumed.
  • [21:27:19] <zero_> but on BBB
  • [21:28:53] <rcn-ee> zero_, shouldn't be any issues. just remember NOT to use any 5volt devices/power on that "shield".. bbb is 3.3v io..
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  • [21:29:24] <zero_> it has a 3.3v jumper
  • [21:29:49] <zero_> I will also only use the I2C bus with the module
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  • [21:29:56] <rcn-ee> jumpers don't stop users from plugging in a self-powered 5volt device..
  • [21:30:16] <zero_> problem is, the library for that shield is for arduino
  • [21:30:17] <zmatt> i2c-utils at least works
  • [21:30:21] <zmatt> i2cget -f -y 0 0x24 0x01
  • [21:30:28] <veremit> https://donfuge.wordpress.com/2014/05/04/getting-started-with-the-ads1248-on-the-beaglebone-black/
  • [21:31:16] <zmatt> interesting that returns 0x3f
  • [21:31:24] <zmatt> which means the usb current limit is actually raised to 1.8A
  • [21:31:30] <zmatt> hmm
  • [21:31:32] <veremit> ouch lol
  • [21:31:40] <veremit> you Sure about that?!
  • [21:32:01] * zmatt tries some other regs to make sure the util works
  • [21:32:30] <zmatt> yep
  • [21:32:37] <zero_> vermit that link uses the adafruit library lol
  • [21:32:54] <veremit> zero_ .. there aren't a lot of 'simple' options ...
  • [21:33:22] <zero_> hmm, will i'm just doing a trial, I will try the adafruit library for now
  • [21:33:39] <zero_> later I will learn the I2C protocol and port the code for that shield
  • [21:33:42] <zmatt> it uses the 'python-smbus' library
  • [21:33:43] <zero_> thanks for the help
  • [21:34:16] <zmatt> and doesn't seem to do more than wrap it
  • [21:34:37] <zmatt> https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-Raspberry-Pi-Python-Code/blob/master/Adafruit_I2C/Adafruit_I2C.py
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  • [21:35:12] <abferm> anyone know a good way to shorten the waiting for "Raise network interfaces" during boot.
  • [21:35:42] <veremit> ifplugd *duck*
  • [21:35:49] <zmatt> upgrade to stretch, use systemd-{networks,resolved,timesyncd}
  • [21:35:55] <veremit> eww systemd
  • [21:35:58] <veremit> lol
  • [21:35:58] <zmatt> apt-get purge ifupdown
  • [21:36:05] <zmatt> works like sunshine
  • [21:36:21] <abferm> but... I use the crap out of ifupdown...
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  • [21:36:51] <veremit> no netifrc under deb?
  • [21:37:01] <veremit> ah won't work with .. blah
  • [21:37:06] <zmatt> abferm: give networkd a try... we also needed to deal with the "raise network interfaces" and networkd does a really beautiful job
  • [21:37:24] <zmatt> plus, less crap: along with ifupdown went isc-dhcp-* and ntpd/ntpdate
  • [21:37:36] <veremit> "beautiful" and "sunshine" don't exist in software ...
  • [21:37:55] <rcn-ee> usually they go with "my ass.." in software...
  • [21:38:00] <zmatt> hehe
  • [21:38:08] <veremit> lol rcn-ee +1
  • [21:38:14] <zmatt> still I consider it a major improvement
  • [21:38:58] <zmatt> basic config is just a four-line /etc/systemd/network/eth.network :
  • [21:39:01] <zmatt> [Match]
  • [21:39:01] <zmatt> Name=eth0
  • [21:39:04] <zmatt> [Network]
  • [21:39:04] <zmatt> DHCP=ipv4
  • [21:39:05] <zero_> i see that adafruit I2C implementation is pretty simple
  • [21:39:16] <zero_> I guess the heavy lifting is in the smbus module
  • [21:39:38] <zmatt> zap the old stuff, and do "systemctl enable systemd-{networkd,resolved,timesyncd}"
  • [21:39:46] <zmatt> .service
  • [21:39:48] <zmatt> sorry
  • [21:40:29] <zmatt> and either reboot, or bring the old interfaces down (if they were still up) and start aforementioned services
  • [21:40:50] <zmatt> and replace /etc/resolv.conf by a symlink /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
  • [21:41:36] <zmatt> but I recommend not doing this on anything older than stretch
  • [21:42:14] <zmatt> it still works, but you have basically zero tools
  • [21:42:19] <zmatt> no networkctl yet
  • [21:42:52] <veremit> I've yet to give connman a try on the arm boards I got ..
  • [21:42:54] <rcn-ee> zmatt, from what i've read, in stretch they will be transitioning that to default in the next few months. ;)
  • [21:43:11] <zmatt> good
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  • [21:46:30] <abferm> Problem solved... I removed my configs for eth0, and it started right up.
  • [21:47:09] <rcn-ee> sgx: hum... so... that was to easy... i'm switching 4.1.x-ti's sgx modules to be built from the k4.1 branches of: http://git.ti.com/gitweb/?p=graphics/omap5-sgx-ddk-linux.git;a=summary instead of that ancient sgx sdk... they built "too" easily... not a single error..
  • [21:47:57] <veremit> lol...
  • [21:48:08] <veremit> "so, where's the catch .. "
  • [21:48:24] <rcn-ee> i know... it's probally deepper...
  • [21:48:50] <rcn-ee> where's the 2-3 random hack-patches we need to add...
  • [21:48:59] <zero_> so should i be getting the latest kernel from here?
  • [21:49:13] <zero_> http://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel
  • [21:49:35] <rcn-ee> zero_, are you just using i2c? anything with hdmi audio/etc? or xyz?
  • [21:50:10] <zero_> i would like to ahve HDMI work, but the image from this website has issues. I have never had HDMI working on BBB
  • [21:50:17] <zero_> that said, I don't actually need it for my project
  • [21:50:21] <zero_> I only need I2C
  • [21:50:58] <rcn-ee> then start out with the console base: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_console
  • [21:51:16] <rcn-ee> you'll have to add i2ctools, but it's setup to be very minimal...
  • [21:51:47] <rcn-ee> if it's tooo small, use the lxqt image above it on that page..
  • [21:53:06] <zero_> so lxqt has both the rfs and the kernel 4.1?
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  • [21:53:31] <zero_> sorry if these are dumb questions, i'm not very good at linux yet
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  • [21:53:54] <rcn-ee> zero_, lxqt is just the windows manager gui... all the jessie images have 4.1.x installed by default..
  • [21:54:04] <rcn-ee> with v4.1.x-rt options available in apt.. ;)
  • [21:54:14] <mwillbanks> for the debian weezy package for beagleboneblack where is uboot compiled with and is there a way to find the configuration flags that were utilized or customizations?
  • [21:54:38] <rcn-ee> mwillbanks, the repo is here: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/Bootloader-Builder
  • [21:54:53] <rcn-ee> but sometimes you have an ancient u-boot in eMMC, your actually "dealing" with..
  • [21:55:35] <mwillbanks> rcn-ee: great - thanks, yeah… we're working on getting it to network boot in some cases amongst other crazy things.
  • [21:57:33] <rcn-ee> mwillbanks, i've added a few nfs related thing by default, look for /nfs-uEnv.txt in the rootfs and here's a page with more hints: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:U-boot_partitioning_layout_2.0#nfs_support
  • [21:58:28] <rcn-ee> mwillbanks, if you have systemd+connman+nfs: make sure to set eth0 like: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/tools/developers/nfs-rsync.sh#L20
  • [21:58:57] <mwillbanks> we have not been using connman so far :) although i should likely still verify
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  • [22:00:47] <zero_> ok i will try apt-get the 4.1 kernel thanks
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  • [23:56:01] <ds2> anyone measured how much more power does the Beagle (any one) use when SGX is used?
  • [23:56:07] <ds2> alt. how much hotter do things run with the SGX
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