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  • [14:04:52] <armfirewall> Hiii bbb users
  • [14:04:54] <armfirewall> need help
  • [14:05:16] <armfirewall> i m trying to create bbb firewall
  • [14:05:27] <armfirewall> and would like your help with few things
  • [14:05:57] <armfirewall> first would like to know the basic for configuring bbb as an access point
  • [14:07:41] <armfirewall> also how to dail up internet from bbb ubuntu os to my isp
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  • [14:13:57] <armfirewall> can any1 help me??
  • [14:16:51] <ogra_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?
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  • [15:50:17] <hoijui> i am new, got my BBB a few days ago, and am checking out all the getting started things
  • [15:50:28] <hoijui> and about "installing latest software"
  • [15:50:56] <hoijui> in all hte guides and wiki pages i found about that, it always talks about how to install the latest version, but never hwo to check which version you alreayd have
  • [15:51:08] <hoijui> should that not always be the first step?
  • [15:52:11] <hoijui> and second: on the download pages for the OS images, there is one debian image and "older" angstrom images
  • [15:52:21] <hoijui> does this mean, debian is now the default?
  • [15:53:05] <hoijui> if yes, why are all the guides still mentioning angstrom as the default, and if not, why is the images download page made like this, that debian seems to be the new default now?
  • [15:53:36] <tlab> debian is the newest
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  • [15:53:55] <tlab> new images are here https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/
  • [15:54:38] <hoijui> so.. is that the new default now?
  • [15:54:48] <hoijui> and angstrom is deprecated (for BBB)?
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  • [15:55:18] <rcn-ee> hoijui, angstrom's been depreated for bbb for almost 2 years ago... (no active developer)
  • [15:55:19] <hoijui> or is just the debian image the latest released one, but there will be newer angstrom ones in the future
  • [15:55:26] <hoijui> aha...
  • [15:55:31] <hoijui> thanks
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  • [15:55:55] <hoijui> maybe that should be made obvious on the wikis and on hte site then
  • [15:55:57] <rcn-ee> the maintainer of angstrom left circuitco and works for linaro now...
  • [15:56:08] <hoijui> mmmmm
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  • [15:56:13] <rcn-ee> hoijui, there's 100's of wiki's...
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  • [15:56:37] <tlab> would be good if the beagleboard website linked directly to new images
  • [15:56:48] <tlab> or link to the directory with new images
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  • [15:56:59] <rcn-ee> tlab it does: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [15:57:15] <rcn-ee> which takes you too: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian
  • [15:57:38] <rcn-ee> (just because it's in https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/ doesn't mean it's fully tested, you need to wait for me to update that elinux reference. ;) )
  • [15:57:53] <tlab> oh
  • [15:58:30] <hoijui> it would be good if i could see on one page, or at least on two different ones, which is my current OS+version, and which is the latest one
  • [15:58:36] <rcn-ee> behind the scenes, it's a automaticly weekly cron job, still need me to fire test it on a board monday morning. (that's when i update the elinux page)
  • [15:58:41] <hoijui> in the same format, 1:1 comparable
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  • [15:59:17] <hoijui> somethign like that green box that sais "Your BBB is connected..."
  • [15:59:26] <rcn-ee> hoijui, it's a rolling type release: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/commits/master
  • [15:59:41] <hoijui> current version coudl be shown on http://192.168.7.2, and latest on http://beagleboard.org/getting-started
  • [16:00:06] <hoijui> ahh... that was an other question...
  • [16:00:23] <hoijui> what if i update with apt-get all the time
  • [16:00:37] <hoijui> is there still a need to flash new releases with the SD card?
  • [16:00:47] <rcn-ee> hoijui, that would be great, fork this project: https://github.com/beagleboard/bone101 ( you need to dump /etc/dogtag to the web page)
  • [16:00:56] <hoijui> that is also not explained on the getting started/update to latest version page
  • [16:01:19] <rcn-ee> hoijui, 95% of time apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade is all you need..
  • [16:01:29] <hoijui> ok :D
  • [16:02:15] <rcn-ee> a couple of the project we add to the image, however need tweaks.. (for example npm install bonescript, needed a few script changes), so the script to generate the image needed changes..
  • [16:02:26] <hoijui> but as long as it is not 100%, i still have to flash, basically, when there is a new image
  • [16:02:28] <rcn-ee> but in the end the image is the same..
  • [16:02:43] <hoijui> mmm
  • [16:03:05] <hoijui> so you only make a new release if tweaks are needed that can not be done through apt-get?
  • [16:03:19] <tlab> rcn-ee, so 2015-03-01 is the latest good image?
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  • [16:03:39] <rcn-ee> hoijui, correct.. i "only" update: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Releases when "apt-get isn't" enough...
  • [16:03:53] <hoijui> ok
  • [16:04:03] <rcn-ee> for example that's why there is a "2015-07-28" wheezy release over "2015-03-01" now. ;)
  • [16:04:15] <hoijui> mmm
  • [16:05:49] <rcn-ee> (and i should bump the wheezy release again, as it needs a new kernel to fully support the green "properly" instead of the hack in 0728.. ;))
  • [16:06:04] <hoijui> ok so if one were to include such a thing, showing current and latest version on a page, how wold one do that? i guess with fetching all files in the latest images url for latest, and running a shell command for current?
  • [16:06:36] <hoijui> with bonescript?
  • [16:07:47] <rcn-ee> i'd just use bash/wget and scrape: https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/ & https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/testing/ ;)
  • [16:08:07] <hoijui> and for current?
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  • [16:08:29] <hoijui> how to find out on bash?
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  • [16:08:43] <rcn-ee> so "https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/" is always tested (i manually move it there) just use the latest "date stamp"
  • [16:09:14] <hoijui> ah yeah.. maybe could show all three then. currently installed, latest stable, latest testing
  • [16:09:52] <hoijui> is there no mention on the BBB of which image was flashed (last)?
  • [16:09:52] <tzafrir> I must be missing something obvious: I have a BBB. Which port belongs to which gpio port?
  • [16:09:54] <rcn-ee> btw, "testing" = jessie + 4.1 kernel... where for most users "currently installed/latest stable" = wheezy + 3.8 kernel
  • [16:10:36] <rcn-ee> hoijui, cat /etc/dogtag
  • [16:11:51] <hoijui> ahhh thanks :D yeah you mentioned that before, i somehow though it was related to somethign else
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  • [16:23:13] <hoijui> what is the difference between these:
  • [16:23:17] <hoijui> bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28-2gb.img.xz
  • [16:23:17] <hoijui> debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28.tar.xz
  • [16:23:31] <hoijui> is the second sources?
  • [16:24:51] <rcn-ee> hoijui, i generate bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28-2gb.img.xz from debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28.tar.xz ;)
  • [16:25:29] <hoijui> ok
  • [16:26:22] <rcn-ee> bone= bbw/bbg/bbb, 2gb = 2gb sd card size, base console image..
  • [16:26:24] <hoijui> scraping https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/, it should be easy to get the date of the latest release, but what about further info, like that it is debian, for example
  • [16:27:39] <hoijui> i look in console/ and then i take only *.img.* files, and from those i remove the ones with BBB- in front and then.. what?
  • [16:27:53] <hoijui> is that goign to be a robst mechnaism (over years)?
  • [16:28:25] <rcn-ee> well, it's been a robst format for a few years now...
  • [16:28:47] <rcn-ee> the biggest change was the addition of *.bmap images, so users can use bmaptools instead of the slow dd..
  • [16:29:00] <hoijui> ok..
  • [16:29:35] <rcn-ee> but always filter out the "blank" those are for cm's..
  • [16:30:01] <rcn-ee> then the "bbb-emmc-flasher" there's a 2gb and 4gb version.. (4gb is for rev c +)
  • [16:30:49] <hoijui> ook
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  • [16:37:30] <hoijui> have to leave.. thanks! and will try to fiddle wit the page
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