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  • [09:21:23] <wusel> Hi all. :) I am trying to update my BBB Rev C to the latest Debian image. I want to flash it on the eMMC. When I follow the procedure using Win32 Disk Imager to put the debian image on the sd card
  • [09:21:50] <wusel> I cannot find a folder boot and the file uEnv.txt
  • [09:21:56] <wusel> mentioned here http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC
  • [09:22:43] <wusel> whats wrong?
  • [09:22:53] <wusel> I have downloaded the image from here: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [09:24:50] <wusel> what I can see is a README.htm, START.htm and stuff like that
  • [09:24:59] <wusel> on the SD card after writing the deabian image on it
  • [09:25:24] <LetoThe2nd> wusel: thats certainly not the boot partition, then
  • [09:25:44] <wusel> LetoThe2nd: what did I wrong?
  • [09:25:57] <LetoThe2nd> wusel: as windows is involved, i don't have the slightest clue
  • [09:26:11] <wusel> I also have ubuntu available
  • [09:27:01] <LetoThe2nd> plus, i really don't see why anyone would need to tinker that file.
  • [09:27:17] <LetoThe2nd> grab the proper flasher image, put it onto card, boot it.
  • [09:27:30] <wusel> just the image?
  • [09:27:40] <wusel> the *.img file?
  • [09:28:20] <LetoThe2nd> of course you shall not copy the file into a filesystem on the sd card.
  • [09:28:39] <LetoThe2nd> on a linux, you would dd it. on windows, no idea.
  • [09:28:47] <wusel> alright
  • [09:28:51] <wusel> I switch to linux
  • [09:28:54] <wusel> give me a sec please
  • [09:28:58] <LetoThe2nd> but no uEnv tinkering is involved as far as i know
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  • [09:32:42] <wusel_> i am back
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  • [09:33:07] <wusel_> actually now I can see two sd partitions
  • [09:33:35] <wusel_> test ? 1 2 3 ?
  • [09:34:16] <ketul> hello all. Can anyone suggest best IC for testing I2C protocol on BBB ?
  • [09:34:53] <ketul> ADXL345 is good or any other suggestions ?
  • [09:35:49] <LetoThe2nd> wusel_: i repeat, i do not see why any uEnv tinkering should be involved. what keeps you from just getting the image, dd'ing to the card and starting?
  • [09:36:11] <wusel_> I want to use the SD for my programs
  • [09:36:15] <wusel_> and other stuff
  • [09:37:26] <LetoThe2nd> a few minutes ago you were saying that you want to update the emmc.
  • [09:37:29] <wusel_> further I have two BBB and only one SD card
  • [09:37:29] <wusel_> .. :/
  • [09:37:57] <wusel_> yeah - currently the OS on my BBB is angstorm
  • [09:38:01] <wusel_> I want debian on it
  • [09:38:04] <wusel_> but without the SD card
  • [09:38:13] <LetoThe2nd> i don't get the point.
  • [09:38:19] <LetoThe2nd> 1) get image
  • [09:38:24] <LetoThe2nd> 2) put it on sd card
  • [09:38:30] <LetoThe2nd> 3) boot it to flash the emmc
  • [09:38:44] <LetoThe2nd> after that, you can reuse the sd card for whatever you want
  • [09:39:01] <wusel_> that's what I meant :)
  • [09:39:09] <wusel_> that's what I want to do
  • [09:39:14] <LetoThe2nd> so why don't you just do it?
  • [09:39:56] <wusel_> well - the original question was, what I did wrong, since my Windows didn't showed me the boot partition of the SD card. So I could not edit the uEnv.txt file to enable eMMC flasher
  • [09:40:10] <wusel_> Now I am on linux and both partitions were shown
  • [09:40:32] <wusel_> and I could edit the uEnv.txt file in the boot partition
  • [09:40:37] <LetoThe2nd> *sigh* why would you want to edit that file? theres a flasher image that should be properly prepared.
  • [09:41:04] <LetoThe2nd> i think i just said that for the 4th time or so.
  • [09:41:25] <wusel_> where should that magic image be? could not find it?
  • [09:41:31] <wusel_> all links in the wiki are dead
  • [09:41:51] <wusel_> and in the wiki stands To setup the standalone microSD image to automatically flash the eMMC on powerup. In /boot/uEnv.txt: ..... http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC
  • [09:41:51] <LetoThe2nd> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Releases
  • [09:41:57] <LetoThe2nd> pick whatever you want
  • [09:42:12] <LetoThe2nd> no dead links involved from what i can see
  • [09:42:49] <wusel_> omg - I think my windows is crap
  • [09:42:55] <wusel_> those links didn't work
  • [09:42:58] <LetoThe2nd> only yours? i'm surprised
  • [09:43:07] <wusel_> xD
  • [09:43:11] <wusel_> thanks
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  • [13:18:37] <samael> i have at least three BBB from embest that do not boot from uSD while pushing S2. also tried grounding P8.43 while powering on, with no luck. should I open an RMA? any other check to do?
  • [13:19:06] <samael> (also tried with netboot and usb boot, nothing works except the boot from onboard emmc)
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  • [13:37:16] <julemand101> samael: ahve you tried to make you onboard emmc unbootable? (by removing the boot loader)
  • [13:38:01] <julemand101> the beaglebone black will try boot on you uSD card if the onboard emmc cannot boot
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  • [13:39:48] <samael> julemand101: nice trick. i'll try asap. i guess removing uEnv.txt is rough but enough?
  • [13:40:09] <julemand101> I can check but im sure this does the trick :)
  • [13:40:29] <samael> don't bother, i'll discover soon. thanks for the hint :)
  • [13:40:48] <tbr> I'd nuke MLO
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  • [13:44:24] <samael> tbr: where to find it? should i zero the first sectors of the emmc with dd?
  • [13:45:06] <tbr> on the FAT partition. zeroing the beginning of the emmc would work too, obviously
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  • [14:23:54] <sla89> hi. does anybody know if there is something newer than arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++4.6.2 out for our bbb?
  • [14:27:49] <woglinde> ????
  • [14:28:02] <woglinde> if you mean on debian wheezy
  • [14:28:03] <woglinde> no
  • [14:28:16] <sla89> damn
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  • [14:28:24] <sla89> i am new to the linux world :/
  • [14:28:33] <LetoThe2nd> you can always compile whatever you want ;) but as downloads for x86/x64, linaro has 4.9.2 :)
  • [14:29:03] <ogra_> ubuntu too ;)
  • [14:29:11] <ogra_> (soon switching to 5.0)
  • [14:29:42] <sla89> well my problem is that on ubuntu my arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ version is 4.8.2 and on my bbb its 4.6.3
  • [14:30:02] <ogra_> and why is that a problem ?
  • [14:30:03] <sla89> and now I get the message "/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.19' not found"
  • [14:30:14] <sla89> when I try to run my application on the bb
  • [14:30:24] <sla89> compiling is just fine on the ubuntu machine
  • [14:30:25] <ogra_> ah, thats different ...
  • [14:30:53] <sla89> what can I do? :/
  • [14:30:54] <ogra_> you link against a newer libc ... that has technically nothing to do with the compiler version
  • [14:31:05] <ogra_> you could use a debian chroot on your ubuntu
  • [14:31:34] <sla89> ? :/
  • [14:31:40] <ogra_> that would give you the right libc version
  • [14:32:27] <ogra_> sudo apt-get install qemu-user-static ... then you can use qemu-debootstrap to build an armhf debian chroot of wheezy
  • [14:32:47] <ogra_> and in there you can build your stuff
  • [14:34:28] <LetoThe2nd> ah, the joys of running native-compile-distros
  • [14:34:59] <sla89> sounds complicated
  • [14:35:48] <sla89> isnt there a way
  • [14:35:54] <sla89> to just install the same gcc
  • [14:35:58] <sla89> that uses the same lib version
  • [14:36:01] <sla89> on my ubuntu?
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  • [14:37:38] <LetoThe2nd> why not provide proper build scripts so it uses whatever it finds (read: autotoolize)
  • [14:37:50] <ogra_> sla89, i dont think ubuntu has anythng older than 4.7 in the archive ,,,
  • [14:38:05] <LetoThe2nd> and of course, if you need features that are newer, well then you need a newer version
  • [14:39:07] <sla89> http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/precise/devel/gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabihf
  • [14:39:08] <sla89> ?
  • [14:39:23] <sla89> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/precise/devel/gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabihf
  • [14:39:24] <sla89> sorry
  • [14:41:29] <ogra_> that is for ubuntu 12.04
  • [14:41:45] <ogra_> (and as i said, you want a newer libc ... not just the compiler)
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  • [14:42:52] <sla89> why do I want a new libc, when the BBB does not support it? :(
  • [14:43:32] <ogra_> err, sorry, i meant an older one :)
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  • [14:44:01] * ogra_ uses ubuntu everywhere ... not used to going backwards :)
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  • [14:48:02] <sla89> i will try it :)
  • [14:48:03] <sla89> thanks
  • [14:48:08] * LetoThe2nd would rather suggest to learn how a proper, reproductible build works. be it using OE or whatever mechanisms are en vogue nowadays. (can snappy help here?)
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  • [15:10:09] <myself> okay, I know I just recently caught wind of a compute-module based around the beaglebone but minus all the connectors.. and I can't think of the name
  • [15:10:25] <smurray> beaglecore
  • [15:10:36] <myself> aha, thankyou
  • [15:11:03] <smurray> that's the one that's on kickstarter atm
  • [15:11:03] <jkridner> myself: I'm very curious to how well the Land Grid Array works.
  • [15:11:24] <jkridner> I think the mentorel design was similar.
  • [15:11:58] <jkridner> nope, high density connector: http://www.mentorel.com/product/usomiq-am335x/
  • [15:13:41] <myself> personally I hate LGA in general, it's appropriate for high-volume stuff but such a pain to debug.
  • [15:13:46] <smurray> freescale have some modules that look similar, not sure if they use LGA or something else
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  • [15:14:27] <myself> The SODIMM-style connector is easier for prototyping, even if you don't do module swapping in the field, you still reap the benefits in the early stages because the pins are easier to probe
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  • [15:19:01] <smurray> ah, the new Freescale modules are BGA
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  • [18:26:50] <_av500_> debian
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  • [21:07:11] <azure_> I was curious if Beaglebone Black will have Windows 10 support. Windows 10 looks to be released at the end of July and we are an Azure cloud partner and were looking for a non-Raspberry PI environment to build Windows 10 off of.
  • [21:08:35] <woglinde> lol
  • [21:08:53] <woglinde> go asked your MS sales person
  • [21:10:39] <MightyMu> Is it officially supported on the Pi?
  • [21:10:59] <woglinde> lol
  • [21:11:35] <woglinde> "hey google" "please search rasberry pi and windows board support package"
  • [21:13:44] <rcn-ee> azure_, "we are an Azure cloud partner" ... maybe you should know that answer???
  • [21:13:54] <azure_> http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/GetStarted.htm is the link I saw official support on Microsoft.
  • [21:14:21] <rcn-ee> azure_, where is the source?
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  • [21:15:40] <woglinde> there is no bbb listed
  • [21:16:05] <rcn-ee> azure_, without the microsoft source, we can't help you.. (not that anyone would, as it's microcrap..)
  • [21:16:52] <woglinde> rcn-ee hm
  • [21:17:17] <woglinde> maybe IoT will be not suffer the bad stuff from ce or xp embedded
  • [21:17:47] <woglinde> but why I want azure on a bbb?
  • [21:17:49] <rcn-ee> fat chance. ;)
  • [21:18:01] <woglinde> I would not even install openstack on bbb
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  • [22:10:19] <djlewis> ugh. . . w10 on a bbb . . .barely runs on a big PC.
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  • [22:11:48] <nima> Hi I run QT Audio App on my BBB but it seems the app couldn't detect my USB Sonud card
  • [22:12:24] <nima> Am I have to do something especial to add my sound card to my QT App?
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