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  • [00:33:15] <SpyKu> Hello. Maybe one of you can help me out here? Trying to install latest version of TOR (https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en) using a beagleboard C5 running debian from (https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/2015-02-19/) but cannot seem to compile as no compiler found. I also tried to run Ubuntu to install latest version of TOR but no go. Any help? Would greatly appreciate it :)
  • [00:35:21] <endrift> have you tried installing a compiler?
  • [00:36:20] <SpyKu> I am fairly new to linux... Not sure how to intall one
  • [00:36:25] <SpyKu> Tried gcc but no go
  • [00:36:59] <SpyKu> I get this result "Package gcc is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'gcc' has no installation candidate"
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  • [00:38:59] <SpyKu> I can install tor using "sudo apt-get install tor" but it's way outdated
  • [00:44:42] <endrift> sudo apt-get install base-devel IIRC
  • [00:44:49] <endrift> it might be build-essential
  • [00:44:51] <endrift> one or the other
  • [00:45:09] <endrift> ah it is build-essential
  • [00:45:11] <endrift> base-devel is arch
  • [00:45:27] <SpyKu> build-essential outputs the same error I quoted above :/
  • [00:45:46] <endrift> hmm
  • [00:45:53] <endrift> do apt-get update first
  • [00:46:19] <SpyKu> Unable to locate package base-devel
  • [00:46:25] <SpyKu> maybe my sources.list need to be updated?
  • [00:46:42] <SpyKu> been at this alll weekend
  • [00:46:57] <endrift> it's build-essential, not base-devel
  • [00:47:01] <endrift> I was wrong at first
  • [00:47:28] <SpyKu> "Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'build-essential' has no installation candidate"
  • [00:47:43] <endrift> that's really weird
  • [00:47:47] <endrift> you did the apt-get update?
  • [00:47:52] <SpyKu> yes I did
  • [00:47:58] <endrift> your sources.list may need to be updated, yeah
  • [00:48:02] <endrift> can you pastebin it?
  • [00:48:53] <SpyKu> http://pastebin.com/RaCWagM3
  • [00:50:02] * endrift blinks
  • [00:50:06] <endrift> that looks fine to me
  • [00:50:19] <endrift> you really should be cross compiling but that's a pain to set up
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  • [00:55:59] <SpyKu> corss compile means compile using a computer running linux?
  • [00:56:03] <SpyKu> *cross
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  • [01:03:14] <endrift> cross compile means to compile using a computer that isn't the computer you're running it on, especially if it's a different architecture
  • [01:03:29] <endrift> but you need to set up the cross compilation environment to do that and that's a huge pain
  • [01:04:51] <SpyKu> Well it seems i'm at a dead end trying to use my beagleboard...
  • [01:04:55] <SpyKu> Might have to look into that option
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  • [01:12:29] <SpyKu> well, I found this http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2010/10/19/how-to-cross-compile-arm-kernel-under-ubuntu-10-10/
  • [01:12:39] <SpyKu> will look into it tomorrow after work
  • [01:12:43] <SpyKu> wish me luck! :P
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  • [04:31:08] <johnpaul> Hey everyone! I have a serial connection on P9_11 and a servo connected to P9_16. For some reason, when the servo is powering on, it makes the select() on the serial connection think there is data coming in.
  • [04:31:32] <johnpaul> Has anyone heard of this?
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  • [05:12:21] <johnpaul> Actually, I think it is because of a power drop when the servo turns on. :< I have a good source for power, but the draw on the servo messes with my serial connection. Any suggestions to help the start of the servo to not be so crazy? (besides another power supply, which I tested and works)
  • [05:13:08] <tbr> a big fat cap near the servo?
  • [05:14:18] <ds2> what kind of servo is this?
  • [05:14:40] <johnpaul> Haha, that is what I was thinking. its a basic small servo from parallax
  • [05:14:51] <ds2> as in RCservo?
  • [05:15:02] <ds2> is this the continous rotation one?
  • [05:15:09] <johnpaul> yea, exactly
  • [05:16:38] <ds2> I have no problems with that exact servo
  • [05:16:48] <ds2> but I am running it off a different supply
  • [05:16:57] <ds2> you drawing 5V from the BB?
  • [05:17:35] <ds2> what are you using to generate the PWM?
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  • [05:19:45] <johnpaul> yea, i have a 5v 3.1a adapter
  • [05:19:56] <johnpaul> and drawing from the 5v from P9
  • [05:20:17] <ds2> do you have a mechanical load on the servo?
  • [05:20:29] <johnpaul> Nope
  • [05:20:55] <ds2> odd... I measured the draw from the servo and it was pretty low (<50mA)
  • [05:21:07] <johnpaul> lol.......... I tihnk I realized my mistake
  • [05:21:15] <johnpaul> I was on 5VDD instead of SYS5v
  • [05:21:17] <ds2> this is in contrast to another one that pulled as much as 500mA
  • [05:21:27] <ds2> 5VDD is fine
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  • [05:21:32] <ds2> 5VDD is direct to the power cube
  • [05:21:35] <johnpaul> hmm, it doesn't do it on 5VDD
  • [05:21:39] <johnpaul> or.. does
  • [05:21:42] <johnpaul> I meant :)
  • [05:21:46] <ds2> SYS5V goes through the PMIC's PFET
  • [05:21:49] <johnpaul> sys 5V works fine
  • [05:21:56] <ds2> drawing too much on SYS5V can kill things
  • [05:22:07] <johnpaul> nvm, I lied
  • [05:22:15] <johnpaul> It still happens after checking several times
  • [05:22:30] <ds2> how are you doing your PWM?
  • [05:23:00] <johnpaul> 8: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,am33xx_pwm 9: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bone_pwm_P9_16
  • [05:23:06] <johnpaul> in slots
  • [05:23:20] <johnpaul> and then writing to the PWM via the run file
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  • [05:25:11] <johnpaul> I guess I could ask this: what would be the easiest or best way to do PWM with C/CPP?
  • [05:25:21] <ds2> use the HW module
  • [05:25:53] <ds2> are you buffering the PWM before it goes to the servo?
  • [05:27:21] <johnpaul> Not 100% sure, I just saw a linux guide http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776799-servo-control-from-the-beaglebone-black
  • [05:27:42] <johnpaul> I just started trying to do PWM stuff today, I understand how PWM works, just not so well with embedded linux :)
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  • [05:29:26] <johnpaul> So, using the HW module - do you have a link or know of a good starting guide that I can refer to?
  • [05:29:37] <ds2> I am personally not convinced not buffering it and running it at 3.3V is a sound engineering practice
  • [05:29:57] <ds2> not really... I just did it all from "good engineering practice"
  • [05:30:12] <johnpaul> I have it at 5V, but still, I am new to embedded linux so I am learning this still
  • [05:30:13] <ds2> that module is rated for 5V so I gave it 5V and buffered/level shifted the PWM signal to 5V
  • [05:30:16] <ds2> no no
  • [05:30:21] <ds2> the BBB outputs are 3.3V
  • [05:30:40] <ds2> BBB out as in the P9_16 line
  • [05:30:50] <johnpaul> Ahhh, I see
  • [05:30:54] <ds2> eventually I will write up something
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  • [05:31:05] <ds2> if you got a scope, slap it on there and see
  • [05:31:17] <ds2> the levelshifting/buffering is a open collector driver
  • [05:31:34] <johnpaul> I am still learning this stuff, so "Good engineering practices" is something that I still need to learn :P
  • [05:31:38] <ds2> easy 2N2222 + resistor... the servo seems to do odd things under some conditions
  • [05:31:49] <ds2> oops... bbl, got to take care of something
  • [05:32:08] <johnpaul> Okay, I just had the resistor, but I can get the diode
  • [05:32:13] <johnpaul> thanks
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  • [05:35:56] <Unbreakable> so what is pwm used for in servos
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  • [05:48:32] <ds2> if you look at the specs, 3.3V is the lower margin
  • [05:48:54] <ds2> putting a diode/transistor will put it below that which may put it into an undefined state that can draw too much power or other bad things
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  • [08:47:12] <HeXtor> Hi fellas, i am trying to turn off the usb client by command. I found that this turn off the power off usb host "devmem2 0x47401c60 b 0x00"
  • [08:47:52] <HeXtor> Someone knows what is the memory addres for do the same to usb client or where i can find it?
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  • [08:49:14] <tbr> don't screw with memory directly. The MUSB driver probably exposes this
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  • [09:48:39] <woglinde> gnif I think jkridner is at sleep at this time
  • [09:49:07] <gnif> woglinde, thanks :), do you know what timezone he is in?
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  • [09:50:37] <woglinde> us
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  • [09:54:41] <gk> hello, I have mainline kernel 3.19 and I wonder how can I load a device tree overlay with this kernel
  • [09:54:48] <gk> it seems that device tree overlays were reintroduced with this kernel but I can't find any documentation how to use them
  • [09:55:20] <gk> and it seems that the whole device tree god modular and to "unlock" UARTS one have to use device tree overlays
  • [09:55:28] <gk> got*
  • [09:57:44] <tbr> mh, not sure if that's a runtime thing. I didn't really look closely.
  • [09:58:00] <tbr> could it be that overlays are right now boot time?
  • [09:58:37] <gk> maybe, but still I have to have some way to load them :)
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  • [11:40:34] <yegorich> gk: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/dynamic-dt-elce14.pdf
  • [11:42:14] <yegorich> gk: http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-08-27-device-tree-overlay-support-lands-upstream/
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  • [12:25:52] <Abhishek_> _av500_: Please approve my mentorship request on Melange
  • [12:25:58] <gk> yegorich: and? because all I can see is "requires some patch" or "capemgr in the works" but how can I use it right now? :)
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  • [12:30:53] <av500> Abhishek_: done
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  • [12:33:41] <gk> yegorich: another interesting thing is that the pdf says that the binary format wasn't changed but when I try to use device tree from 3.18 with 3.19 it doesn't even boot
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  • [12:38:53] <gk> yegorich: fortunatelly it seems that I can get vanilla 3.18 to work now so at least I have some pretty new kernel that works
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  • [13:13:43] <yegorich> gk: it was all info I could find. Have you tried to ask device tree overlay author directly?
  • [13:14:27] <shinzuka> hello,
  • [13:14:27] <shinzuka> I have a problem.
  • [13:14:27] <shinzuka> my black BEAGLEBONE not boot on sd card. without sd card, only the pwr LED is on and nothing autre.je not find the procedure to restore as before.
  • [13:14:27] <shinzuka> thank you
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  • [13:17:39] <shinzuka> sorry my BEAGLEBONE black starts only on sd card
  • [13:18:34] <mistawright> hi guys i was wondering if anyone has gotten a netgear a6100 working with their beaglebone black. I have been trying to find/compile drivers for it have been unsuccessful so far
  • [13:19:16] <mastiff> shinzuka, if you want to boot off the emmc, you can use one of the flasher images, or simply copy with DD like this dd if=mmcblk0 of=mmcblk1 You need to run fdisk to see which disc is which.
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  • [13:22:06] <thurgood> shinzuka: have you flashed the emmc?
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  • [13:23:21] <shinzuka> not flashed
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  • [19:20:46] <faddah> hi all — i have a beaglebone black board, rev. C, and suddenly, yesterday, the ability to ssh into it at 192.168.7.2 stopped, i plugged it in, it wouldn't let me ssh in. i get 'ssh: connect to host 192.168.7.2 port 22: Connection timed out' - what is more, in a browser, if i type in http://192.168.7.2, it does not give me the standard beagle bone page it is supposed to deliver, just 'Error code: ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT' same is tr
  • [19:22:06] <faddah> (cont'd.)... ide on the board with http://192.168.7.2:3000 - ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT. any help getting it back to where i can ssh in and see the web pages again?
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  • [19:24:34] <veremit> faddah .. are the LEDs still flashing .. do you have a debug cable to connect to to it to see any log messages?
  • [19:25:08] <veremit> are you connecting via USB (which I think is a 'yes' by the IP address. .. ) have you tried with an ethernet cable plugged into your router/etc?
  • [19:26:25] <faddah> veremit - yes, blue LEDs on board are flashing just the same as they ever were. i don't know what a debug cable is nor where to connect it — sorry, i am new to all this. yes, it is connected via USB. if i connect it to the router, how will i know what it's new IP address will be to ssh into it?
  • [19:27:19] <veremit> faddah .. check your router's web page . usually has a 'clients' or 'dhcp' list
  • [19:27:49] <veremit> and debug cables .. http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Accessories#Serial_Debug_Cables
  • [19:27:59] <veremit> I'd say a 'must' for any embedded work :) personally.
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  • [19:30:13] <faddah> veremit - so my only choice is to connect it to the router, i cannot connect it direct via usb any more? i have no idea what happened to make it stop ssh'ing or delivering the web pages at ip 192.168.7.2 over usb.
  • [19:30:44] <faddah> veremit - also - yes, i have that debug cable, came with the kit, just didn't know it by that name. i was calling it a usb-to-pin cable.
  • [19:32:13] <faddah> this also raises the question, how do you properly shutdown a BBB each time? is there a command you can send to it equivalent to shut down so it gracefully exits its OS and maybe this stuff doesn't happen?
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  • [19:33:09] <veremit> faddah .. you can send it a 'sudo halt' command to shut it down
  • [19:33:29] <faddah> veremit - whilst ssh'd into it?
  • [19:33:40] <veremit> there are many reasons the usb driver has gone south .. it could be your computer or the beagle .. but yeah, it shouldn't happen.
  • [19:33:56] <veremit> faddah .. yes, it will 'kick you out' :)
  • [19:34:16] <faddah> veremit - got it. gonna try connecting to the router. be back.
  • [19:34:18] <veremit> you'll see the LEDs flicker and shut off
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  • [19:34:32] <faddah> veremit & all - thank you for helping thus far.
  • [19:34:55] <veremit> faddah .. if it continues not to respond .. you can try flashing a uSD card .. and see if that works
  • [19:35:28] <veremit> start with the "non-flasher" image to get it going, then you can re-flash the board if there's a real problem
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  • [19:36:28] <faddah> veremit - just got the board 5 days ago and really just starting with it now, so i have no idea how to flash anything. i'd have to go buy a new microSD card.
  • [19:36:58] <veremit> cool .. lots to learn :)
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  • [19:55:52] <djlewis> is 192.168.7.2 over usb a fixed ip or is it subject to change with reboots ?
  • [19:56:18] <veremit> djlewis .. fixed IP iirc ..coded into the driver init
  • [19:56:44] <djlewis> you have disconnected the BBB and reconnected?
  • [19:56:57] <veremit> so if you're unlucky enough to be using a class c network on 192.168.7.x and there is a PC on at 192.168.7.2 .. its not gonna work :) lol
  • [19:57:05] <djlewis> restarted wonders and all?
  • [19:57:24] <veremit> djlewis - theoretically it Just Works(tm)
  • [19:57:46] <djlewis> veremit: just tossing out thoughts. I dont have a BBB
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  • [19:59:47] <veremit> http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/
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  • [20:01:00] <encircled> hi, is it possible to connect a hardware 3g/4g module to the beaglebone?
  • [20:01:13] <veremit> iirc the beagle operates at least 3 'gadget' interfaces .. networking, mass-storage and terminal of some kind
  • [20:01:37] <veremit> encircled .. over what interface .. the short answer is 'yes' .. :p
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  • [20:02:34] <veremit> 3g/4g usb modems work in linux just like any other
  • [20:02:34] <encircled> I was hoping to buy / add some kind of hardware board/module to a beagle bone for remote data collection / reporting - what are the options?
  • [20:02:57] <veremit> gsm might require some additional hardware
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  • [20:03:24] <encircled> I see, over usb is fine, thanks veremit
  • [20:03:25] <veremit> wifi is a natural choice
  • [20:03:33] <faddah> back - sorry, got disconnected.
  • [20:03:41] <encircled> wifi is not possible; remote location :)
  • [20:03:42] <veremit> but then you need appropriate wifi adapter
  • [20:04:09] <veremit> encircled .. you can use old-skool serial modem if you like
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  • [20:04:36] <encircled> i guess a usb modem is fine for my needs :)
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  • [20:04:59] <veremit> I have a 3g dongle connected via a linux nat arm board/router widget
  • [20:05:25] <veremit> just need a sim card, data plan .. and off ya go
  • [20:07:16] <encircled> a linux nat arm board/router widget ?? Can't you just plug a usb modem straight into the usb port? or will you need an external powered usb hub?
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  • [20:08:09] <veremit> encircled .. not sure what the power req's are .. but yeah, you can plug it straight in
  • [20:08:26] <encircled> great, thanks!
  • [20:08:32] <veremit> might need 'modeswitch' for usb possibly .. there are loads of howtos on 3g dongles in linux
  • [20:08:38] <KotH> encircled: be carefull, most gsm modems use lots of power
  • [20:08:55] <KotH> encircled: you might need a usb hub to provide that power
  • [20:09:06] <encircled> yeah, I was thinking that might be the case :)
  • [20:09:11] <KotH> encircled: the BBB is not that strong on delivering power from the usb port
  • [20:09:17] <veremit> KotH .. is the beagle usb port restricted to 200mA ?
  • [20:09:23] <KotH> no it isnt
  • [20:09:36] <veremit> thought there was some power control on it .. but perhaps not
  • [20:09:53] <KotH> but it is not good at handling this spiky power requirements that gsm modems have (not to say that a lot of those kind of violate the usb specs)
  • [20:10:57] <veremit> must do some testing one day .. I'da thought the usb limit of 500mA constant ought to be sufficient ..
  • [20:11:12] <veremit> but yeah .. the usb hubs we use recommend some good capacitance on the usb port sides
  • [20:11:19] <KotH> well.. these modems are known to use up to 1.5A, short time
  • [20:11:21] <veremit> chips_
  • [20:11:33] <KotH> it's still <500mA average, but short time it can be much more
  • [20:11:37] <veremit> mm pulse requirement would kill any arm board
  • [20:12:03] <veremit> no wonder wifi is a struggle :)
  • [20:12:11] <KotH> uncoupling with 200-500uF ceramic capacitors usually helps
  • [20:12:11] <veremit> thats why I prefer integrated chipsets :)
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  • [20:12:29] <faddah> veremit - i'm back. have beagle board black rev. C connected to router with ethernet cable and also plugged into power. trying to ssh into what i think is the IP
  • [20:12:31] <veremit> yeah our hardware designs usually use 100/220
  • [20:12:58] <veremit> alu elec normally
  • [20:13:03] <veremit> low impedance ofc
  • [20:13:31] <KotH> veremit: i've never actually measured what the pulse times are, and how fast it rises
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  • [20:13:52] <KotH> veremit: the circuits i used this stuff in usually had very little space to spare, so we used ceramic caps
  • [20:13:56] <veremit> KotH .. need a good current probe :)
  • [20:14:15] <KotH> a goot oscilloscope is enough, you can measure the voltage drop :)
  • [20:14:17] <veremit> KotH .. surprised you didn't use as much space on multiple caps as a small alu elec.
  • [20:14:29] <veremit> can't get high cap MLCC chips
  • [20:14:37] <KotH> you can get 100uF 6.3V in 1210
  • [20:14:39] <veremit> tants perhaps
  • [20:14:48] <veremit> must be expensive :p
  • [20:14:57] <KotH> lower profile and lower ESR than tantal
  • [20:15:05] <veremit> true
  • [20:15:06] <KotH> oh.. and they were cheaper than tantal back then
  • [20:15:30] <veremit> we use panasonic 6x6mm caps though
  • [20:15:36] <KotH> because some finnish company, known for its rubber boots thought it was a good idea to buy the world supply of tantal elcos
  • [20:15:56] <KotH> (yes, that was some years ago)
  • [20:15:58] <veremit> lol nice
  • [20:16:08] <KotH> it wasnt nice
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  • [20:16:30] <veremit> I don't suppose that finnish company is doing so well these days? or am I thinking of another .. lol
  • [20:16:35] <faddah> veremit - trying to ssh in - not working. i put in "$ ssh 192.168.1.3 -l root" [or .6, both are showing as connected on my network map without names], and it just sits there and eventually the connection times out.
  • [20:16:58] <KotH> $supplier called us a month after our prototype run, saying that the cer caps we just bought have now a lead time of 25 weeks... because everyone switched to buy cer caps to replace the tantal caps that became unobtanium
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  • [20:17:19] <thurgood_> eek
  • [20:17:20] <veremit> faddah .. I think you might need to break out that debug cable ..
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  • [20:17:32] <KotH> veremit: no, the company went back to rubber boots... no electronics anymore
  • [20:17:46] <veremit> KotH .. well .. facny that lol
  • [20:18:07] <KotH> but their production was a major PITA for a couple of years
  • [20:18:28] <faddah> i have it, what do i do with it? are there troubleshooting instructions you can refer me to somewhere? there were troubleshooting instructions on the page that came up off of http://192.168.7.2/ on the board, but that is on the board and i can't get to it now.
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  • [20:19:20] <KotH> faddah: what did you do? connect your bbb over ethernet to the network?
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  • [20:19:28] <KotH> faddah: your dhcp server should know its ip then
  • [20:19:43] <veremit> koth .. seems networking period or even the board is a bit south ..
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  • [20:19:57] <veremit> leds flashing but no ssh/etc
  • [20:19:58] <KotH> faddah: have you connected a serial cable to the debug port?
  • [20:20:05] <faddah> KotH yes, veremit advised me to connect to a router and try and ssh that way.
  • [20:20:08] <veremit> which is where we're at :)
  • [20:20:17] <KotH> ah..
  • [20:20:25] <KotH> serial cable and see what the debug port says
  • [20:21:16] <veremit> something like https://codechief.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/beaglebone-black-serial-debug-connection/ faddah
  • [20:21:17] <faddah> veremit - no - again, i don't mean to hammer you with beginner's troubleshooting steps, if there is a page somewhere on-line at beagleboard.org or something, i'll go look there.
  • [20:21:44] * KotH hands faddah a piece of chocolate
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  • [20:21:51] <KotH> faddah: thanks for being considerate!
  • [20:21:55] <KotH> faddah: that's very rare here
  • [20:24:12] <veremit> its a steep learning curve getting into arm boards .. but a rewarding one at the same time
  • [20:24:50] <faddah> well i got hammered by someone in the forums on beagleboard.org for not "looking up" something before asking, i replied by saying i _did_ look it up, it just came back with incredibly old entries having to do with older beaglebone boards, not the black, and it was all for windows computers, not linux or a chromebook which is what i'm on.
  • [20:24:54] <djlewis> please send me your code and complete details :)
  • [20:25:48] <veremit> faddah .. material is very fragmented and frequently out-of-date
  • [20:25:55] <veremit> unfortunately
  • [20:26:04] <KotH> djlewis: rotfl
  • [20:26:14] <KotH> djlewis: it's "the codez" ;)
  • [20:26:24] <djlewis> KotH: yes, that was for U. :)
  • [20:26:35] <KotH> djlewis: U?
  • [20:26:37] <faddah> veremit - so i have found, all the more irk'ing to accuse me of not looking stuff up first, which i always try and do.
  • [20:27:10] <djlewis> you
  • [20:27:37] <KotH> djlewis: ah..
  • [20:27:47] <KotH> djlewis: you should learn how to type english properly ;->
  • [20:28:00] <djlewis> KotH: i knew you would appreciate the line
  • [20:28:09] <djlewis> having been around here for so long
  • [20:28:14] <veremit> faddah .. it has been noted .. but tracking down all the sources is next-to-impossible. I have flagged it up as an issue to the likes of jkridner here, but its out of his control afaik.
  • [20:28:15] <KotH> ^^;
  • [20:28:40] <KotH> faddah: well, most people fail at knowing what google is
  • [20:28:46] <veremit> elinux should be the go-to resource but there simply aren't enough 'good' contributors .. or anyone compiling from other sources.
  • [20:28:50] <KotH> faddah: so the assumption that you havent looked it up is natural
  • [20:29:14] <KotH> veremit: actually, i know a certain guy who just recently deleted a lot of entries from elinux, because they were crap
  • [20:29:51] <faddah> KotH & veremit - i realize i am in a special situation here as my main computer here, for now, is a dev-mode Acer C720P Chromebook.
  • [20:30:05] <KotH> faddah: uh.. my condolences
  • [20:30:16] <faddah> KotH - ??
  • [20:30:24] <KotH> faddah: but get a serial2usb cable and conect it to your debug port on the bbb
  • [20:30:36] <KotH> faddah: that's the only way to have halfway an idea what's going on on the bbb
  • [20:30:49] <KotH> faddah: you have a very inconvenient development environment
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  • [20:31:07] <KotH> oh.. damn... it's the french guy!
  • [20:31:13] <faddah> KotH & veremit - works for me, until i run into silly stuff like this.
  • [20:31:32] <veremit> ssh and usb and basic networking are completely cross-platform as far as I'm aware ..
  • [20:31:36] <KotH> faddah: everything around embedded systems is silly until you figure out what the problem is :)
  • [20:32:12] <veremit> although to date, I haven't used MacOS .. or iOS .. *spit*
  • [20:32:23] <KotH> faddah: it took me once 3 months to get spi working on a system... ended up using a frankenkernel stichted together from linux-next, and a ton of random patches from other sources
  • [20:32:39] <faddah> KotH & veremit - anyway, those instructions you show have another smaller/daughter board in-between the debug cable with the four pin connections and the BBB. my debug cable came just with the usb connector on one end and the four pins out on the other, no smaller board.
  • [20:32:41] <veremit> KotH .. if that's what it takes .. lol.
  • [20:32:53] <veremit> faddah .. it'll be moulded in .. don't worry .. ploug on.
  • [20:32:59] <KotH> faddah: you dont need any smaller board
  • [20:33:19] <KotH> faddah: if the ends are 3.3V (which they most likely are, but check anyways), then you can just connect them to the debug port
  • [20:33:22] <veremit> the elinux accessories site shows multiple types.
  • [20:33:31] <faddah> veremit & KotH - well it's very confusing as those instructions keep mentioning that other board.
  • [20:33:37] <veremit> if it came WITH the beagle .. you will be fine.
  • [20:33:49] <KotH> veremit: yes... it took me almost 9 months to get that damn thing working... 3 weeks were planed
  • [20:34:07] <veremit> KotH .. yea, my boss knows ALL about that kinda crap
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  • [20:34:57] <veremit> KotH .. and one of my colleagues is working through the same problem with a control protocol badly implemented by a third-party in order to satisfy a customer requirement ..
  • [20:35:05] <KotH> veremit: $customer was happy anyways. we were the only ones that could deliver a system according to their specs :)
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  • [20:35:17] <veremit> KotH .. thats how we get paid ultimately.
  • [20:35:19] <faddah> KotH & veremit - so i understand, take the BBB out from the ethernet cable into router, plug it back into the Chromebook again via USB, _then_ plug the debug cable into the debug port and into my 2nd usb port? is that what i am doing here?
  • [20:35:34] <veremit> faddah .. that should work, yes
  • [20:35:59] <KotH> faddah: does not matter how you power your BBB, but yes, serial2debug cable goes into computer
  • [20:36:11] <veremit> .. or tablet, or phone .. etc.
  • [20:36:20] <faddah> trying now. is there a url to a chart reference on-line as to the ports on the BBB so i know i'm plugging into the right debug port?
  • [20:36:37] <veremit> there's one header besides P8 or P9 .. its marked
  • [20:36:37] <KotH> the system reference manual has a description of the port
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  • [20:37:25] <veremit> faddah ,, I think you'll find image .. https://codechief.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/connector-3-jumper-wire-pins-1.jpg .. shows it fine
  • [20:37:29] <veremit> can't beat graphics
  • [20:39:24] <veremit> that tutorial I posted covers most of the ky points (ignoring the different debug adapter)
  • [20:39:38] <weezelding> hello, running debian wheezy on bbb and testin a ds18b20 sensor. followed this guide http://www.hobrasoft.cz/en/blog/bravenec/beaglebone-black-ds1820 ...
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  • [20:40:00] <weezelding> but getting this error http://sprunge.us/cbaM
  • [20:40:23] <ddrown> weezelding: does it work anyway?
  • [20:40:30] <weezelding> ddrown: noup
  • [20:40:42] <weezelding> cannot find slave devices
  • [20:41:14] <weezelding> running Linux beagle 3.8.13-bone30 #1 SMP Thu Nov 14 02:59:07 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux to be specific
  • [20:42:04] <KotH> weezelding: what error?
  • [20:42:24] <weezelding> KotH: second last line
  • [20:42:25] <veremit> I can't see an error there ..
  • [20:42:39] <veremit> there's some messages :) but are they relevant ..
  • [20:42:40] <KotH> ah..
  • [20:42:53] * KotH has never seen that one
  • [20:43:13] <KotH> i would refere you to our DT specialist, but he is drinking beer at the moment
  • [20:43:19] <ddrown> [ 21.610475] of_get_named_gpio_flags: can't parse gpios property
  • [20:43:24] <KotH> and will so for the rest of the week
  • [20:43:28] <ddrown> I got that message too, but it still worked
  • [20:43:30] <weezelding> : )
  • [20:43:36] <ddrown> with a DS18B20
  • [20:43:42] <weezelding> hmm
  • [20:43:59] <ddrown> line before was different though: [ 21.610460] of_get_named_gpio_flags exited with status 45
  • [20:43:59] <KotH> weezelding: what you could do is check the documentation of how the gpios are to be defined in the kernel currently
  • [20:44:11] <KotH> weezelding: the DT specs changed a couple of times in the past
  • [20:44:34] <faddah> KotH & veremit - sorry to be a bother, but i only have four pin wires coming off my debug cable - black, red, green, and white. none of that matches the pictures or instructions you have sent me.
  • [20:44:36] <veremit> weezelding .. you could update to 3.8.13bone60+
  • [20:44:55] <KotH> faddah: you should have 3 wires: TX, RX, GND
  • [20:45:00] <veremit> faddah .. do you have any documentation for the debug cable .. you need to find the 'GND' and 'TX' and 'RX' pins
  • [20:45:03] <KotH> faddah: connect those accordingly to the BBB
  • [20:45:24] <ddrown> weezelding: this is the DTS I used for the DS18B20 - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1293f98cca577751846c
  • [20:45:38] <veremit> ddrown .. what kernel version have you got .. "uname -a" ?
  • [20:45:43] <weezelding> veremit: that's the plan actually. apparently it needs reflashing. did flashing half a year ago so my memory is futile, do i need SD card to do flashing?
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  • [20:46:13] <ddrown> veremit: 3.8.13-bone70.5 at the moment
  • [20:46:14] <veremit> weezelding .. lots of ways .. uSD is one .. or you can sftp a new image .. reconf... nope you can't probably cos its hard-written
  • [20:46:19] <veremit> ddrown .. thanks
  • [20:46:44] <veremit> weezelding .. do you have a /boot folder with a zImage/uImage .. vmlinuz in it?
  • [20:46:54] <veremit> if not .. yes, uSD is the only way
  • [20:47:20] <veremit> if you got a /boot with a vmlinux .. rcn has worked his magic :D
  • [20:47:21] <weezelding> veremit: yep, boot exist with zImage -> vmlinuz-3.8.13-bone30
  • [20:47:57] <veremit> cool .. you can cross-compile (or download, probably) a new version .. sftp it in, change the symlink, rsync modules and GO!
  • [20:48:09] <veremit> sorry .. thats simplifying it a lot :D heh
  • [20:48:16] <weezelding> ( :
  • [20:48:31] <veremit> if you understand that lot .. you're good to go, however :D
  • [20:48:34] <weezelding> it's over ten years since the last kernel compilation hehe
  • [20:48:54] <veremit> weezelding .. guessing you didn't have a beagle back then .. or any arm boards lying around :)
  • [20:49:11] <faddah> KotH & veremit - again, sorry for my nOOb questions, but there were no specific instructions that came with the kit tha show the pin connections for each of the four cable ends for the serial2debug cable. just a one sheet showing how to connect power to the BBB and the BBB to the computer via USB.
  • [20:49:17] <weezelding> veremit: true ( :
  • [20:49:35] <weezelding> ddrown: thanks
  • [20:49:43] <faddah> veremit & KotH - it came from element14
  • [20:49:52] <weezelding> ah, maybe i'll just flash it. quick'n'easy
  • [20:50:10] <veremit> weezelding .. probably .. back up anything critical :D
  • [20:50:27] <weezelding> luckily i don't have anything critical there
  • [20:50:28] <KotH> faddah: hmm.. they should have a datasheet somewhere
  • [20:51:08] <weezelding> was about to plug a 16x2 LCD screen but unfortunately that was 5V -> external power -> bummer
  • [20:51:12] <faddah> KotH - nope, nothing. very limited kit.
  • [20:51:21] <weezelding> veremit: thanks for the hints
  • [20:51:26] <veremit> faddah .. do you have alink to the kit online?
  • [20:51:34] <veremit> weezelding .. np.
  • [20:51:41] <faddah> KotH & veremit - hang on...
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  • [20:54:07] <weezelding> crap, now i remember the memory card borked some time ago
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  • [20:55:19] <faddah> KotH & veremit - trying to look it up at the element14 web site and their site is as convoluted as i've seen.
  • [20:56:12] <veremit> faddah ,.. sadly yes .. and I have to use their partner sites for business . . !
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  • [20:58:24] <faddah> KotH & veremit - does the black go on the J1 jumper?
  • [20:59:57] <veremit> debug looks like J1, yes
  • [21:01:06] <veremit> faddah .. if you have a meter, you can check which is the 'Tx' pin at each end, because it will have a voltage on it unconnected (at the 'target' end) ie . the cable 'Tx' lead connects to the Beagle 'Rx' pin, and vicer versa
  • [21:01:11] <faddah> KotH & veremit - ok, black pin is on J1. do any of the other wires need to be on a jumper and where?
  • [21:01:50] <veremit> faddah .. Yes.
  • [21:02:04] <faddah> veremit - i am not an electronics genius, i just wanted a small board to play with and write some node.js stuff. this is getting very frustrating and i'm about to call element14 and ship back the whole thing.
  • [21:02:24] <veremit> faddah .. probably better witha PC :)
  • [21:02:25] <faddah> veremit - in other words, i have no meter. i have small screw drivers, that's about as far as my tools go.
  • [21:02:29] <veremit> or .. some other computer
  • [21:02:39] <faddah> veremit - i have no other computers
  • [21:04:08] <veremit> faddah .. maybe wanna try out something like .. https://www.codebox.io/stack/node
  • [21:06:29] <faddah> veremit - i already know about things like codebox, cloud9, koding, nitrous.io, etc., and used them.
  • [21:06:44] <veremit> ok cool
  • [21:07:24] <veremit> problem with boards like the pi, arduino and beagle .. you need ot be prepared to get your "hands dirty" :) that's all I'm saying.
  • [21:07:33] <faddah> veremit & KotH - sigh. so you are saying i cannot use this with a chromebook, you cannot point me at _current_ instructions that show me how to use the debug cable with the pins, and i have no way to diagnose why i can no longer ssh in to the board? is that what you're saying here?
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  • [21:08:11] <faddah> my debug cable only has _four_ wires - red, green white black
  • [21:08:21] * veremit fears ..
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  • [21:09:11] <veremit> faddah .. give me a moment
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  • [21:12:40] <Victor__> hi everyone
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  • [21:13:17] <Zock> Looking for some help here...
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  • [21:14:20] <KotH> faddah: sorry, i wasnt reading
  • [21:14:25] <KotH> faddah: it should be possible
  • [21:14:34] <KotH> faddah: i dont know what problems you face
  • [21:14:38] <Zock> :D
  • [21:14:47] <KotH> faddah: a debug cable is usally pretty straight forward to use
  • [21:14:55] <Zock> So I'm trying to use this http://beaglebone.cameon.net/home/joystick
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  • [21:15:15] <Zock> it says to use the command line: npm install joystick
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  • [21:16:11] <Zock> smurray: you have a second?
  • [21:16:13] <veremit> faddah .. does it look at all like this .. http://embest-tech.com/product/extension-module/uart8000-u.html .. you can try that pinout
  • [21:16:31] <veremit> faddah .. otherwise .. you're probably going to find it easier to get a uSD card, download a reflasher, and start again.
  • [21:17:06] <veremit> faddah .. ignore the white.
  • [21:17:22] <veremit> KotH .. hope to God, those are wire colours for USB :(
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  • [21:18:20] * KotH does not trust wire colours
  • [21:18:20] <veremit> bloody ele14.
  • [21:18:35] <veremit> KotH .. no .. once I've snipped the cable apart .. then I do :)
  • [21:18:49] <veremit> or buzzed it out .. standard electronics tests.
  • [21:18:51] <Zock> anyone: How do I install this? http://beaglebone.cameon.net/home/joystick
  • [21:19:02] <veremit> wtf is "npm"
  • [21:19:36] <Zock> it says to use the command line: npm install joystick
  • [21:19:45] <Zock> to install it
  • [21:19:49] <veremit> yes, in node ide
  • [21:19:53] <Zock> but that don't work
  • [21:19:57] <veremit> what does it say?
  • [21:20:03] <Zock> sec...
  • [21:20:15] <veremit> it won't work on the command line .. or does it .. (never used the Node images)
  • [21:20:24] <faddah> KotH & veremit - sorry, i was on the phone with element14 trying to see if they could point me to the kit on their web site or help me.
  • [21:20:32] <Zock> module.js:340 throw err; ^ Error: Cannot find module '/opt/cloud9/build/standalonebuild/npm' at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:338:15) at Function.Module._load (module.js:280:25) at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:497:10) at startup (node.js:119:16) at node.js:902:3
  • [21:20:43] <veremit> Zock .. yikes.
  • [21:21:04] <veremit> ok that one is outta my league .. sorry ..
  • [21:21:22] <KotH> Zock: this is not a node.js help channel
  • [21:21:24] <veremit> faddah .. have had a comb around their site .. I Agree, its f*in useless
  • [21:21:26] <Zock> where am I supposed to use the command line?
  • [21:21:47] <veremit> KotH .. well some muppet packaged it with the beagle sw :p
  • [21:21:59] <faddah> this is the kit i bought on-line via amazon, i have no way of knowing where the debug cable came from: http://www.amazon.com/BeagleBone-Black-Single-Computer-Development/dp/B00P48PQTS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1427145659&sr=8-6&keywords=beaglebone+black+kit
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  • [21:22:47] <veremit> Zock .. are you using debian or angstrom?
  • [21:23:09] <Zock> I'm using whatever it came with
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  • [21:23:27] <Zock> I think its bonescript?
  • [21:23:47] * veremit grumbles about amazon too
  • [21:23:56] <KotH> Zock: oh.. damn... that beast
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  • [21:23:58] <Victor__> I'm having a bit of a headache with the beaglebone black
  • [21:23:59] <veremit> Zock .. no, it'll be running an operating sstem beneath
  • [21:24:00] <faddah> Zock - bonescript is the JavaScript module lib that comes with beaglebone to access the hardware.
  • [21:24:05] <KotH> Zock: sorry, didnt say anything.. please keep asking
  • [21:24:23] <Victor__> I'm trying to setup an LCD screen that uses an SPI chip on the latest ubuntu images
  • [21:25:01] <Victor__> and after reading and reading and reading about cape manager and how I can define my own stuff in the device tree
  • [21:25:13] <Zock> So where do I put commands?
  • [21:25:15] <Victor__> it turns out that debian kernel 3.14 does not have a cape manager anymore :)
  • [21:25:21] <Zock> Im new to this
  • [21:25:54] <Victor__> so here I am .. not wanting to compile a device tree that gets loaded at boot time .. since that pretty much means I'm gonna crash the bbb
  • [21:26:13] <veremit> Zock .. did you follow the other articles in that dude's tutorial, or just that one?
  • [21:26:13] <Zock> All it says is "Install the node-joystick module with this command line: npm install joystick"
  • [21:26:14] <Victor__> and trying to get some ideas from other folks that maybe had this problem
  • [21:26:23] <Zock> Just that one :(
  • [21:26:43] <faddah> Zock - can you ssh into the beagleboane? if so, do cat /proc/version
  • [21:26:47] <veremit> Zock .. right, that article is most likely out-of-date for your beagle
  • [21:26:50] <KotH> Victor__: so, what's the problem with crashing your BBB?
  • [21:27:06] <faddah> Zock - cat /proc/version will tell you your distro
  • [21:27:21] <Zock> I will try that. just a sec
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  • [21:27:28] <Victor__> Koth: I'll end up with an unbootable bbb and I'll have to reflash it again
  • [21:27:29] <KotH> faddah: actually, you shouldnt use that, but `uname -a` instead
  • [21:27:34] <KotH> Victor__: so?
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  • [21:28:01] <faddah> KotH - i've used both, depending
  • [21:28:03] <KotH> Victor__: let me guess, you dont have a serial cable connected to the debug port?
  • [21:28:05] <Victor__> KotH: since I'm in trial and error mode I would like to avoid spending 10 minutes of flashing for trying a one line change in the dtbs
  • [21:28:17] <KotH> faddah: you should always use uname, it's portable. /proc/version is not
  • [21:28:20] <Victor__> KotH: :D you have a webcam in my room or something :P
  • [21:28:41] <Zock> It gave me this: Linux version 3.8.13-bone47 (root@imx6q-wandboard-2gb-0) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Deb ian 4.6.3-14) ) #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014
  • [21:28:49] <KotH> Victor__: no, but i but people who dont use serial cables give off a certain smell
  • [21:29:03] <Victor__> KotH: I connected the BBB through the miniusb for power and ethernet for network
  • [21:29:09] <Zock>
  • [21:29:18] <Zock> Sorry, that is: Linux version 3.8.13-bone47 (root@imx6q-wandboard-2gb-0) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-14) ) #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014
  • [21:29:56] <Victor__> KotH: I tried connecting on the serial over usb but it doesn't show the boot messages .. it only displays the serial output of the bbb after the macbook sees the serial connection
  • [21:30:12] <faddah> Zock, ok, yer on debian,
  • [21:30:31] <Zock> Cool! good to know!
  • [21:30:33] <Victor__> KotH: would that completely change if I'd use the 6 pins dedicated for the serial ? would I be able to see the boot process and jump in
  • [21:30:35] <KotH> Victor__: first connect the serial cable, then boot the bbb
  • [21:30:44] <Zock> I just tryed "npm install joystick" from ssh
  • [21:31:06] <veremit> Zock .. the node.js installed on your bealge is not configured the same way as that tutorial expects.
  • [21:31:07] <KotH> Victor__: you dont expect your monitor show what happend 5 minutes ago, when you switch it on, do you?
  • [21:31:17] <Zock> It said: npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/joystick
  • [21:31:43] <KotH> Victor__: eh.. use the debug port, not the usb port
  • [21:31:44] <Victor__> KotH: true that, but wouldn't it be normal to get the same serial behavior over the standard USB connection ?
  • [21:31:48] <KotH> no
  • [21:31:53] <veremit> Victor__ .. if you're going to work with embeded devices, you're gonna have to build a kernel once in a while . . IF you're unlucky .. you'll brick it .. but you can get back from a downloaded flasher image most likely
  • [21:31:57] <KotH> Victor__: for usb to work, the os has to be running already
  • [21:32:01] <Zock> veremit Ahh
  • [21:32:26] <veremit> Everyone: Serial debug is your FRIEND :D
  • [21:32:30] <Zock> So I got issues
  • [21:32:37] <Victor__> KotH: oh .. I got past the point of rebuilding the kernel :D I was able to do it both on the bbblack (it took hours) and on an Ubuntu machine with the cross compiler
  • [21:33:02] <KotH> oh, you are one of those guys who do ethical builds!
  • [21:33:05] <faddah> KotH & veremit - o.k., that debug cable pic you sent me is like mine, only mine is much, much shorter, like 3 feet, tops
  • [21:33:23] <veremit> faddah .. yes I See what you have .. but we're still at a bit of a loss on documentation
  • [21:33:33] <Victor__> KotH: anyway, I'll give it a shot with the serial debugger from the board pins not via usb .. I'm not afraid of jacking the system .. I just want to minimize the time of reverting it back to a previous stable state
  • [21:34:04] <veremit> Victor__ .. burn a uSD card with a flasher .. everything will be fine :D
  • [21:34:13] <KotH> Victor__: that's necessary pain so that the child learns properly ;->
  • [21:34:19] <faddah> veremit - ok, trying to call eleduino, who sold the board through amazon...
  • [21:34:33] <veremit> worst case playing with dtbs is everything will boot .. .but it will throw some error
  • [21:34:38] <veremit> its really not that dangerous
  • [21:34:42] <KotH> why do people always talk about "burning" sd cards... you dont burn them.. you dont even flash them
  • [21:34:52] <veremit> KotH .. elec sland :p
  • [21:34:57] <Victor__> :)
  • [21:34:58] <veremit> slang*
  • [21:34:59] <KotH> veremit: it's not EE slang
  • [21:35:10] <veremit> Koth .. not for .. uhm ..
  • [21:35:11] <KotH> veremit: it's i-dont-know-what-i-am-talking-about slang
  • [21:35:25] <veremit> koth .. level with 'em ..
  • [21:35:31] <KotH> lol
  • [21:35:36] * KotH does not level with anyone
  • [21:35:41] <veremit> or nobody gets anywhere
  • [21:35:45] <KotH> unless he/she knows more than i do :)
  • [21:35:54] <veremit> no comment.
  • [21:36:00] * KotH is an arrogant asshole
  • [21:36:06] <veremit> no comment.
  • [21:36:07] * KotH knows it
  • [21:36:15] <Victor__> and now another shot in the dark hoping a saviour angel is here : does anyone have any sort of experience with the HX8357 LCD SPI module ?
  • [21:36:31] <Victor__> obviously under bbb
  • [21:36:49] <faddah> KotH & veremit - just wish there were troubleshooting instructions on the beagleboard.org web site that were easy to access and showed you in pics where to take the latest serial2debug cable and where to put it on the pins. putting the debugging/troubleshooting instructions on the web page on the board is useless if the board goes down.
  • [21:36:50] <veremit> Victor__ .. short answer here... No :)
  • [21:37:18] <KotH> faddah: hmm..
  • [21:37:23] <KotH> faddah: nothing on elinux either?
  • [21:37:27] <veremit> faddah .. don't we all .. but there are several variants of the debug cable .. Thankfully, as KotH pointed out .. the debug header is Standard. and publicised in the SRM on the beagle elinux site
  • [21:37:40] <veremit> or we'd all be pissing in the wind
  • [21:37:42] <Victor__> veremit: I figured .. :)
  • [21:38:00] <KotH> veremit: been there, done that, got wet pants
  • [21:38:00] <faddah> veremit & KotH - what is the elinux site for beagle?
  • [21:38:07] <KotH> faddah: www.elinux.org
  • [21:38:17] <veremit> KotH .. yeah, tend to avoid that .. or piss downwind ;)
  • [21:38:20] <KotH> faddah: there are many sections that contain info about the bbb
  • [21:38:39] <KotH> faddah: i havent had a look there in ages, so i cannot tell you where to start
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  • [21:39:17] <veremit> faddah .. try
  • [21:39:22] <veremit> faddah .. try http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlackhttp://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack
  • [21:39:26] <veremit> omfg this PC needs a reboot
  • [21:39:35] <veremit> yeah NOT that
  • [21:39:42] <veremit> faddah .. try http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack
  • [21:39:55] <KotH> faddah: but part of the problem is, that those who know that kind of stuff are usually people who have been doing it for ages, so they dont think that anyone would struggle with that kind of thing
  • [21:40:38] * KotH is no exception
  • [21:41:08] <jamesaxl> KotH: hi OpenSuse
  • [21:41:23] <KotH> jamesaxl: SuSE 6.0, please
  • [21:41:40] * KotH still has the box somewhere
  • [21:41:43] <veremit> they dropped the 'open' tag :D
  • [21:41:52] <KotH> veremit: it didnt exist back then ;)
  • [21:41:53] <jamesaxl> KotH: but i will feel free(freedom) when i say opensuse
  • [21:42:08] <KotH> jamesaxl: i'm not a fan of susi
  • [21:42:15] <veremit> *facepalms* and heads for the kitchen ..
  • [21:44:28] <faddah> KotH & veremit - i think what i have is the adafruit debug cable - http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial#Adafruit_4_Pin_Cable_.28PL2303.29
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  • [21:45:55] <veremit> faddah .. if it says .. oh wait .. chrome .. no dmesg or "Device Manager" on the host side :(
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  • [21:46:08] <veremit> faddah .. try that pinout then
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  • [21:46:20] <veremit> you can swap 4/5 if it doesn't work first-time
  • [21:46:24] <faddah> KotH & veremit - so i have the black cable in the right place for the J1, green is receive and white is transmit, i just need to know where white & green go.
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  • [21:46:34] <veremit> pin4/5
  • [21:46:36] <veremit> on the beagle
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  • [21:47:27] <loveslap> i need a little hlep
  • [21:47:38] <loveslap> i am trying to log back into my BBB after bricking it
  • [21:47:47] <loveslap> but i don't have an HDMI cable/monitor
  • [21:47:51] <loveslap> what is my best path forward?
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  • [21:48:24] <veremit> loveslap .. make a new uSD card with a 'flasher' image from the web, plug in and reboot
  • [21:48:55] <faddah> veremit - is the black plugged into J1 considered '0' or '1'?
  • [21:48:59] <veremit> by 'reboot' I mean .. unplug Everything, insert card, plug back in.
  • [21:49:08] <veremit> faddah .. pin 1 will be marked
  • [21:49:32] <veremit> we count headers from '1' :) only in code is '0' the start point!
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  • [21:50:35] <loveslap> veremit i will try with BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-14.04.2-console-armhf-2015-02-19-2gb.img
  • [21:51:50] <loveslap> i'm running this command on OSX
  • [21:51:52] <loveslap> sudo dd if=BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-14.04.2-console-armhf-2015-02-19-2gb.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m
  • [21:52:32] <loveslap> look okay?
  • [21:52:42] <loveslap> do i need to format the sd in some way first?
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  • [21:53:50] <veremit> loveslap .. no need to format .. the 'dd' will sort all of that
  • [21:53:53] <SpyKu> Ok, I am back from work.
  • [21:54:22] <faddah> veremit & KotH - ok, so beagle has J1 - black, pin 4 - green, receive, pin 5 - white, transmit.
  • [21:54:53] <veremit> faddah .. sounds good
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  • [21:55:28] <faddah> veremit & KotH - bbb is plugged in with serial2debug cable and powered on, on-board LEDs flashing like normal. now what, please?
  • [21:55:45] <KotH> faddah: press the reset button
  • [21:55:57] <johnpaul> faddah: sounds like you are just trying to get a serial connection to your BBB?
  • [21:56:02] <KotH> faddah: you should see the bootloader, the second stage boot loader, then the linux kernel boot
  • [21:56:10] <johnpaul> (yep)
  • [21:56:18] <johnpaul> :)
  • [21:56:48] <veremit> faddah .. have you started a terminal program to access your debug cable?
  • [21:57:08] <veremit> youl'l need the 'terminal' running when you start up the beagle
  • [21:57:10] <faddah> KotH & veremit - "where" am i going to "see" all this, and "where" is the reset button?
  • [21:57:20] <SpyKu> I have a few questions. I assume more people are active than last night?
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  • [21:57:30] <johnpaul> Seeems like it :P
  • [21:57:44] <johnpaul> Faddah, which OS are you using for your computer you're on
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  • [21:57:52] <veremit> SpyKu .. it comes and goes ..
  • [21:57:58] <veremit> speakin of .. I need to brb and make a coffee lol
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  • [21:58:16] <faddah> johnpaul - i've been going through this with KotH & veremit for an hour or more, it's on a Chromebook/linux
  • [21:58:19] <SpyKu> make me some tea pl0x :P
  • [21:58:33] <johnpaul> Does crosh have screen?
  • [21:58:38] <johnpaul> the command, that is.
  • [21:59:03] <SpyKu> You can download "Secure Shell" for chrome browser :P
  • [21:59:05] <faddah> KotH & veremit - i have a terminal window, several of them. what do i do to "see" the board? ssh in? to the same 192.168.7.2 address?
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  • [21:59:40] <johnpaul> faddah: if you are using a debug cable, you don't SSH to the bbb
  • [21:59:51] <faddah> johnpaul & SpyKu - i all ready am in dev mode on Chromebook and know how to terminal or secure shell, thank you, though.
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  • [22:00:15] <ddrown> does the Chromebook come with USB serial drivers?
  • [22:00:15] <johnpaul> faddah: inside of the Chrome Shell, can you use the command 'screen'
  • [22:00:48] <johnpaul> ddrownL not too sure, but it is essentially linux and may
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  • [22:00:59] <faddah> johnpaul, veremit & KotH - "bash: screen: command not found"
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  • [22:02:38] <SpyKu> Anyone run https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/2015-02-19/ubuntu-14.04.2-console-armhf-2015-02-19.tar.xz on BeagleBoard and experience a crash that happens?
  • [22:02:52] <loveslap> okay
  • [22:02:58] <loveslap> i've completed the dd command
  • [22:02:58] <SpyKu> and I also was in here trying to find a way to compile the latest TOR but to no avail. Was trying all weekend
  • [22:03:03] <loveslap> i put the sd in the BBB
  • [22:03:04] <loveslap> power up
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  • [22:03:12] <loveslap> do i need to hold the button at the same time?
  • [22:03:21] <loveslap> and how do I log in?
  • [22:03:30] <loveslap> (don't have an HDMI cable)
  • [22:03:42] <SpyKu> ssh
  • [22:03:51] <SpyKu> need to netscan to find what IP it is
  • [22:04:03] <loveslap> netscan is a program?
  • [22:04:06] <faddah> KotH, veremit & johnpaul - so how do i see what's going on with the beagleboard thru the debug cable? i have a terminal window up
  • [22:04:06] <loveslap> for osx?
  • [22:04:10] <johnpaul> faddah: what is the output of ls /dev
  • [22:04:11] <SpyKu> nmap is one you can use
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  • [22:04:48] <SpyKu> nmap 192.168.1.0/24 -sP
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  • [22:04:56] <SpyKu> or whatever ip ran your LAN uses
  • [22:04:56] <loveslap> okay i'm installing nmap with homebrew
  • [22:05:00] <SpyKu> *range
  • [22:05:16] <loveslap> nmap -v -sn 192.168.0.0/16
  • [22:05:20] <loveslap> something like that?
  • [22:05:36] <jamesaxl> KotH: what's you choice concerning OS
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  • [22:05:43] <faddah> johnpaul - a _lot_. what specifically are you looking for from "$ ls /dev"?
  • [22:06:00] <KotH> jamesaxl: whatever floats your boat and you can efficiently work with
  • [22:06:26] <asdf123_> is there any kernel for bbb, that can get MUSB+DMA working? i am having issues with usb devices in isochronous mode and they work only with CONFIG_MUSB_PIO_ONLY=y
  • [22:06:51] <faddah> johnpaul - are you looking for /sda*, are you looking for tty*, are you looking for usbmon*?
  • [22:06:52] <johnpaul> faddah: anything tty that may say USB or something
  • [22:07:05] <jamesaxl> KotH: every OSs floats boat, but which one will bring in the other side ?
  • [22:07:15] <loveslap> i plugged it in with nothing else attached
  • [22:07:18] <jamesaxl> bring you*
  • [22:07:19] <ddrown> faddah: ttyUSB* ttyACM* are two patterns that might match
  • [22:07:20] <loveslap> and its doing the cylon thing
  • [22:07:22] <loveslap> ?
  • [22:07:23] <loveslap> good
  • [22:07:30] <johnpaul> faddah: I am not sure of support on ChromeOS with serial connections. so just checking to see if the device can see the usb device
  • [22:07:42] <johnpaul> faddah: okay what is the ttyUSB full device name
  • [22:08:23] <faddah> johnpaul, KotH & veremit - there is tty, tty1, tty8, ttyUSB0, there is also usbmon0, usbmon1 & usbmon2
  • [22:08:48] * KotH goes to sleep
  • [22:09:16] <faddah> i appear to have bored KotH
  • [22:09:19] <jamesaxl> KotH: you seep too soon
  • [22:09:24] <jamesaxl> sleep*
  • [22:09:26] <KotH> faddah: nah.. just past my bedtime
  • [22:09:30] <johnpaul> faddah: does running: stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [22:09:33] <KotH> faddah: should have been asleep for an hour already
  • [22:09:37] <faddah> KotH - where are you?
  • [22:09:41] <KotH> faddah: but i needed to fix a bug in koha first
  • [22:09:50] <johnpaul> does that work* i meant
  • [22:09:55] <jamesaxl> KotH: bcs i will need you to build my "spiquadcopter"
  • [22:09:56] <faddah> KotH - portland, oregon, u.s. here.
  • [22:10:02] <KotH> faddah: a 3rd world country in the middle of europe
  • [22:10:26] <faddah> KotH - prague?
  • [22:10:31] <KotH> almost
  • [22:10:40] <KotH> faddah: western germany
  • [22:10:54] <faddah> KotH i was in istanbul, prague, germany & paris in 2010
  • [22:11:08] <faddah> KotH - my family is originally from nuremburg
  • [22:11:35] <KotH> faddah: nüremberg is a nice city, liked it... but here... well...
  • [22:12:23] <faddah> KotH - frankfurt? koln? munich?
  • [22:13:20] <faddah> johnpaul, KotH & veremit - here's the result of "stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0" => speed 9600 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel
  • [22:13:28] <johnpaul> faddah: does stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 show anything / work?
  • [22:13:32] <johnpaul> ah okay
  • [22:13:34] <johnpaul> great
  • [22:13:34] <jamesaxl> KotH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2Qtio-7co
  • [22:13:42] <johnpaul> faddah, can you download https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/diginow-serial-terminal/kfmecbejcnepbfdcdbbhfcjmdmmcmoah
  • [22:13:49] <johnpaul> it is a chrome extension for serial comm
  • [22:14:06] <johnpaul> you'll want to set the baud rate in the top left to 115200
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  • [22:14:48] <jamesaxl> KotH: try to listen it and you sleep tight, you will feel seems like in a Wolke
  • [22:16:32] <faddah> ok, got the diginow serial terminal
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  • [22:16:53] <faddah> pardon, the above was meant for ^^^^ KotH, johnpaul & veremit
  • [22:16:57] <johnpaul> okay, set the top left box to 115200 (baud rate that the BBB uses)
  • [22:17:08] <johnpaul> and then clcik on ttyUSB0
  • [22:17:22] <johnpaul> you may have to press enter in the send button to get some output
  • [22:17:51] <faddah> KotH, veremit & johnpaul - yeah, i ain't seen 9600 baud since 1996. ;)
  • [22:18:20] <loveslap> hmm
  • [22:18:25] <loveslap> seems to flash very fast
  • [22:18:30] <loveslap> and not sucessfully
  • [22:18:50] <loveslap> only 5 minutes from cyclon pattern to all lights on
  • [22:18:52] <johnpaul> faddah: haha, some small devices seem to use 9600. a lot in networking are defaulted to that, apparently
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  • [22:19:10] <johnpaul> faddah: do you see any output
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  • [22:20:33] <faddah> johnpaul, KotH & veremit - wait, i see no way to change it from 9600 baud. i click on "baud rate: 9600" and all that does is make the window for this app larger.
  • [22:20:58] <johnpaul> faddah: in that top left text box, you should be able to type 115200
  • [22:21:48] <jamesaxl> faddah: i think he drinks a lot of beer
  • [22:22:46] <faddah> johnpaul, KotH & veremit - nope, "baud rate: 9600" is grey, cannot click it or change it. there were up and down arrows next to "9600," now they are gone. badly designed app.
  • [22:23:27] <faddah> jamesaxl - huh??
  • [22:23:43] <faddah> jamesaxl - who drinks a lot of beer? what does that have to do with my issue?
  • [22:23:51] <johnpaul> faddah: yea, the problem is that you're on ChromeOS and support is literally limited to what people have created as extensions. Windows/(full) Linux/Mac have much better support for this.
  • [22:24:12] <faddah> johnpaul - sigh. don't i know it.
  • [22:24:19] <veremit> johnpaul .. surely there's some terminal 'app' ?
  • [22:24:19] <jamesaxl> faddah: i meant Koth drunk a lot of beer , you problem , you gonna resole just be patient
  • [22:24:33] <SpyKu> how do I display my RSA key? what is the command?
  • [22:24:50] <faddah> veremit - i have a terminal app! i have lots of terminal tabs open! just please tell me what to do with them! johnpaul, KotH & veremit
  • [22:25:00] <veremit> SpyKu .. why do you want to see your RSA key!?
  • [22:25:17] <veremit> faddah .. you probably don't want them all open at once ;)
  • [22:25:18] <jamesaxl> SpyKu: you can find it in .ssh folder
  • [22:25:23] <SpyKu> to check that there is no M-I-T-M - goin on :p
  • [22:25:26] <veremit> pick one .. go through the process .. eliminate if it doesn't work
  • [22:25:57] <faddah> veremit KotH johnpaul - i can have one or as many terminals open as you like, please. just please tell me what to do with the terminal. i have repeated that now several times.
  • [22:26:00] <veremit> jamesaxl .. that won't work for the server key ;D
  • [22:26:02] <SpyKu> nano ssh_host_rsa_key.pub ?
  • [22:26:39] <veremit> faddah .. open 1 serial terminal app .. go to 'configure' set your baud rate to 115200, 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit .. no flow control .. 'connect'
  • [22:27:13] <johnpaul> faddah - You need a terminal that supports serial connections. ChromeOS is limited it seems with good apps. I don't have a Chromebook at the moment so I can't test
  • [22:27:20] <faddah> veremit - ChromeOS has no such settings for the terminal - you get a commandline screen, that's it.
  • [22:27:53] <veremit> hrm.
  • [22:27:57] <johnpaul> faddah: from the crosh terminal, 'cat' may work, but you won't be able to send information, i.e. it will be for viewing only
  • [22:28:56] <johnpaul> faddah: try this app
  • [22:28:59] <johnpaul> faddah: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beagle-term/gkdofhllgfohlddimiiildbgoggdpoea
  • [22:29:34] <SpyKu> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/serial-monitor/ohncdkkhephpakbbecnkclhjkmbjnmlo?hl=en
  • [22:29:37] <veremit> johnpaul , faddah .. just spotted that 'BeagleTerm'
  • [22:29:48] <SpyKu> what I posted should work VIA chrome browser
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  • [22:30:02] <johnpaul> faddah veremit :P Yea, it actually looks functional
  • [22:30:46] * veremit checks the demo video .
  • [22:31:10] <asdf123_> i am looking for bbb image with TI kernel. any links?
  • [22:31:27] <SpyKu> https://rcn-ee.net/ ?
  • [22:31:48] <faddah> johnpaul veremit KotH - ok, got BeagleTerm, launched it, it sees the device at /dev/ttyUSB0 , and is connected at 115200 baud. it says: Device found /dev/ttyUSB0 connection Id 5
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  • [22:31:56] <veremit> hurrah
  • [22:32:02] <johnpaul> great!
  • [22:32:11] <SpyKu> step one complete :P
  • [22:32:18] <johnpaul> faddah: send like an enter command or something if you see nothing
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  • [22:32:36] <veremit> ie. hit the enter key :p
  • [22:32:50] <veremit> you should get a prompt in response
  • [22:32:51] <johnpaul> veremit : touché
  • [22:32:55] <faddah> johnpaul, veremit KotH - ok, doing that
  • [22:33:03] <veremit> :)
  • [22:33:20] <faddah> got: "Debian GNU/Linux 7 beaglebone ttyO0 default username:password is [debian:temppwd] Support/FAQ: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian The IP Address for usb0 is: 192.168.7.2 beaglebone login: "
  • [22:33:36] <veremit> ah beauty
  • [22:33:43] <johnpaul> faddah: boom
  • [22:33:54] <asdf123_> SpyKu: tnx, but i am looking for something older like 3.2 based on TI mainline, where i can possibly get usb+dma working
  • [22:33:56] <johnpaul> faddah: now you can login with debian / temppwd
  • [22:34:00] <faddah> veremit johnpaul - i have debian 7.4 on this, btw, i think that's the latest shipped image
  • [22:34:30] <faddah> johnpaul veremit - log-in as root? that's what i was doing as ssh
  • [22:34:32] <veremit> asdf123_ .. usb host is a problem.
  • [22:34:53] <veremit> asdf123_ usb+dma is a disaster
  • [22:34:54] <johnpaul> faddah: you can log in as debian or as root, whatever you prefer
  • [22:35:00] <asdf123_> yes, exactly... MUSB+DMA = HELL
  • [22:35:15] <asdf123_> does not work on any torvalds kernels
  • [22:35:20] <veremit> asdf123_ I'm not sure there is ANY way it works
  • [22:35:26] <asdf123_> so i am looking for something TI based...
  • [22:35:31] <veremit> asdf123_ I'm not sure there is ANY way it works
  • [22:35:34] <faddah> ok, i'm logged in. now how do i diagnose why the usb regular connection was not working and i could not ssh?
  • [22:35:46] <veremit> faddah "ifconfig -a" should show you interfaces
  • [22:35:47] <asdf123_> i guess TI somehow got it working on their mainline kernels...
  • [22:36:02] <veremit> asdf123_ I doubt it .. the usb driver (from ANYwhere) is very VERY basic
  • [22:36:03] <johnpaul> faddah: well, that is a linux tihng to try and diagnose.. you can look at ifconfig and see what it says there
  • [22:36:30] <faddah> veremit johnpaul - pasting that to a gist, hang on
  • [22:36:34] <johnpaul> faddah veremit: I am actually at work right now, and need to get to a meeting. I will check back in like 20-30 minutes.
  • [22:36:43] <veremit> asdf123_ and broadly speaking .. very broken too .. since it was ported from another device
  • [22:36:49] <veremit> johnpaul np, thanks
  • [22:37:16] <asdf123_> noticed some patches like: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/1/24/195
  • [22:37:30] <SpyKu> Can anyone help me compile latest source of tor?
  • [22:37:49] <asdf123_> seem related to the musb+dma in isochronous issues...
  • [22:38:25] <veremit> SpyKu .. wrong channel
  • [22:38:51] <SpyKu> but I am using beagleboard
  • [22:38:56] <veremit> SpyKu .. alternatively there may be a debian package already built :P for arm.
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  • [22:39:31] <SpyKu> i've tried instructions VIA tor website and it installs old version :/
  • [22:39:31] <veremit> SpyKu .. otherwise you need to set up a cross-compile toolchain and development environment .. or make space on the beagle itself .. and Wait.
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  • [22:40:15] <faddah> johnpaul - understood, thank you for help thus far
  • [22:40:54] <faddah> KotH, johnpaul & veremit - result from "ifconfig -a" — https://gist.github.com/faddah/67c5c0a5aca69cb4c9dd
  • [22:40:56] <veremit> faddah .. "/etc/init.d/sshd status" and/or "/etc/init.d/sshd restart"
  • [22:42:13] <veremit> or is it .. hrm .. its not dropbear is it ..
  • [22:42:47] <faddah> veremit johnpaul KotH - "/etc/init.d/sshd status" returns "-bash: /etc/init.d/sshd: No such file or directory"
  • [22:43:04] <veremit> faddah .. replace 'sshd' with 'dropbear'
  • [22:43:57] <faddah> veremit - there's ssh in there but not sshd
  • [22:44:05] <veremit> no wait .. drop the 'd' .. just checked my debian box
  • [22:44:15] <veremit> lol
  • [22:44:24] <faddah> veremit -- sshd is in /usr/bin/sshd
  • [22:44:42] <veremit> yeah there'll be some debian fugery
  • [22:44:44] <faddah> veremit - yeah, there's no dropbear in there.
  • [22:45:00] <veremit> dropbear is alightweight sshd
  • [22:45:52] <faddah> veremit - just did "which dropbear" from root of beaglbone and it doesn't have any
  • [22:46:04] <veremit> faddah .. if youre prepared for a large cut/paste .. try 'dmesg" :)
  • [22:46:39] <veremit> faddah .. and 'cat /var/log/messages'
  • [22:47:04] <veremit> something in there should hint at any issues
  • [22:47:22] <SpyKu> How would I build from souce from my beagleboard?
  • [22:48:02] <faddah> veremit - it's now at the bottom of the git — https://gist.github.com/faddah/67c5c0a5aca69cb4c9dd
  • [22:48:13] <faddah> s/git/gist
  • [22:48:53] <faddah> veremit - so what am i looking for in all that?
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  • [22:52:10] <faddah> vermit, just did "/etc/init.d/ssh status" (without the 'd' for daemon) and it returned this: ssh.service - LSB: OpenBSD Secure Shell server Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/ssh)
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  • [22:52:48] <faddah> veremit (cont'd.) - Apr 23 20:20:00 beaglebone sshd[965]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22. Apr 23 20:20:00 beaglebone sshd[965]: Server listening on :: port 22.
  • [22:53:15] <veremit> faddah .. ssh results look good
  • [22:53:28] <veremit> SpyKu .. apt-get install build-essential
  • [22:53:34] <faddah> veremit - so why can't i ssh in on a direct USB connection?
  • [22:53:41] <veremit> SpyKu .. wget <sources>
  • [22:53:58] <veremit> faddah .. I suspect some usb_gadget issue .. hence 'dmesg' and 'cat /var/log/messages'
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  • [22:54:47] <faddah> veremit - i haven't done cat /var/log/messages yet, want me to do that?
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  • [22:56:14] <veremit> faddah yup
  • [22:56:16] <veremit> brb
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  • [22:58:16] <SpyKu> ahh ok thanks
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  • [22:58:51] <veremit> back
  • [22:58:56] <veremit> chrs for beer :) beer is good
  • [22:59:02] <veremit> beer and coffee .. just not together
  • [22:59:25] <SpyKu> haha :P
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  • [23:01:14] <SpyKu> What about kahlua?
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  • [23:03:26] <veremit> omg .. I saw the return of the "rocket fuel" coffee (with guava) in the work kitchen .. lol
  • [23:03:49] <faddah> veremit - that 'cat /var/log/messages' crashed the BeagleTerm app - there was oodles of stuff in there taking forever to load going back to when the kernel on the board was initialized (Jan 01 00:00:11).
  • [23:04:18] <faddah> veremit & SpyKu - and beer with coffee in it is usually a porter.
  • [23:04:45] <veremit> faddah .. oh bugger, and heh :p
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  • [23:06:28] <johnpaul> Okay, I am back, and now with some questions of my own. :)
  • [23:07:29] * SpyKu is a n00b at linux
  • [23:07:42] <johnpaul> I am pretty new to embedded linux (decent with Linux itself, though) but I was curious: When interfacing with hardware, via pwm, spi, gpio, etc, is it typical that you modify/read the contents of files to control them?
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  • [23:07:58] <faddah> i restartd beagleterm and it continue in cat - ack! how do i stop it? ^C?
  • [23:08:11] <johnpaul> Yea
  • [23:08:14] <veremit> johnpaul .. the options are mixed .. /sys interface is one .. shared mem is another ..
  • [23:08:20] <veremit> PRU's are a good one
  • [23:08:34] <veremit> depends what you wanna do really
  • [23:08:59] <veremit> realtime you're gonna need ot look at PRUs ..
  • [23:09:05] <johnpaul> veremit .. I have been using /sys to interface with them, just using an fstream in C++ to read/write values, but it seems strange to me.
  • [23:09:29] <johnpaul> currently not worried about real-time - yet. that will be for one day down the road :)
  • [23:10:41] <johnpaul> veremit .. I am currently working with PWM to control a servo. I don't really mind which way to do this, I just want to make sure that I am doing it correct from a professional/engineering standpoint, not a hacky way.
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  • [23:11:44] <johnpaul> veremit .. and from what I have seen, the documentation is a little sparse or I am too new / not knowledgable enough to read them. Have you done anything with C++ / PWM?
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  • [23:12:41] <veremit> johnpaul .. not on the beagle ever .. if it were me, I'd go with a cortex chip and use direct register access .. very dangerous in linux .. or arduino and use spi/uart to control
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  • [23:13:12] <gookun> Hello everyone. Is there a issue to used eqep0 on kernel 3.14 ? because i tried every combinaisons to configure P9_42 but i failed to get 3.3v on the eqep0A pin :'(
  • [23:13:29] <johnpaul> veremit .. doing it with arduino is easy :P and the beaglebone is a cortex A chip, no?
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  • [23:13:59] <veremit> johnpaul .. yes .. different breed :)
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  • [23:14:11] <veremit> was thiking more the M-series :D
  • [23:14:16] <veremit> wb faddah
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  • [23:14:37] <faddah_> back
  • [23:15:06] <faddah_> that 'cat /var/log/messages' crashed me something fierce, which i've never seen happen on a Chromebook before.
  • [23:16:04] <veremit> weird .. musta flooded a buffer or something
  • [23:16:27] <faddah_> veremit & johnpaul - so long story short, how to i get the beaglebone black board to a) stop the 'cat'; b) restart the ssh server; c) restart the whole board (as in shutting down and restarting debian linux), all from the command line, in that order?
  • [23:16:46] <veremit> faddah_ .. Ctrl-C should stop .. or it will End eventually
  • [23:16:49] <faddah_> veremit & johnpaul - i believe that is what will fix me, i think
  • [23:16:49] <johnpaul> veremit .. ah okay. I do have a few M4 microcontrollers, but trying to stay with full embedded linux.
  • [23:17:12] <veremit> johnpaul .. I'm sure its possible .. I've just never heard of a 'good' solution yet.
  • [23:17:40] <veremit> faddah_ .. if you can get a prompt up again .. "sudo reboot" or just "reboot" will do a clean shutdown/restart
  • [23:17:41] <johnpaul> faddah_ .. the beaglebone has a reset and power button on it, near the USR LEDs
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  • [23:18:09] <veremit> faddah_ .. I'm thinking in your case you might wanna do a filesystem check .. but not sure that'll work on a running system
  • [23:18:22] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - just, if i launch BeagleTerm again to get in there, i'm afraid it'll still be in the middle of 'cat /var/log/messages' and will freeze/crash my Chromebook again.
  • [23:18:38] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - had to restart whole damn Chromebook to get back here.
  • [23:18:52] <johnpaul> veremit .. Okay, :P Thanks, that is what I keep coming up with. I just know it is possible and it is frustrating trying to figure it out. I need some code written so I can present it for a potential interview, so I have been working on a small project. this is where I have been hitting a wall
  • [23:18:54] <veremit> faddah_ it will continue disconnected .. shoulda done by now
  • [23:19:25] <veremit> johnpaul .. what's the 'wall' ?
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  • [23:19:49] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - it was taking a looooooooooong time, still on log entries from april of last year when board/kernel was created/initialized.
  • [23:20:02] <veremit> wonder if the filesystem is full .. lol.
  • [23:20:18] <veremit> really surprised RCN/etc haven't put logrotate on there.
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  • [23:20:49] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - so '$ fsck.ext4 -f ...' on which /dev/?
  • [23:20:51] <johnpaul> veremit .. successfully controlling a servo via PWM. :)
  • [23:21:20] <johnpaul> veremit .. on the BBB
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  • [23:21:48] <veremit> johnpaul .. I'm sure you're not the first :)
  • [23:22:06] <veremit> faddah_ .. it would be /dev/mmcblk* .. but it will protest because its mounted
  • [23:22:29] <veremit> faddah_ .. it would be safer from a uSD card boot :p but then I always get confused which mmcblk it is
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  • [23:22:59] <SpyKu> IT'S WORKING!!! So I was trying to compile VIA debian build and I noticed the mistake I was making was I did not comment out deb-src from the sources.list
  • [23:23:11] <veremit> heh
  • [23:23:14] <SpyKu> Therefor I could now download build-essentials :/
  • [23:23:50] <veremit> ah which nonce put 'deb-src' in the apt sources list .. that not a good idea on a limited-space system .. -facepalm-
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  • [23:24:11] <SpyKu> I have a 16 BG ssd installed
  • [23:24:14] <SpyKu> *GB
  • [23:24:18] <SpyKu> *SD
  • [23:24:23] <SpyKu> blah typos
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  • [23:24:44] <johnpaul> brb one sec
  • [23:24:46] <faddah_> veremit & johnpaul - there's mmcblk0, mmcblk0boot0, mmcblk0boot1, mmcblk0p1, and mmcblk0p2.
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  • [23:25:09] <johnpaul> Okay, was switching clients :P
  • [23:25:33] <veremit> faddah_ ignore all the 'boot' ones
  • [23:25:48] <veremit> SpyKu .. does that -work- with the BBB??
  • [23:26:02] <SpyKu> Not bone. Beagleboard C5
  • [23:26:06] <veremit> ahh np
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  • [23:26:29] <SpyKu> it may be dusty but i'm trying to put it to use as a media server and tor relay :P
  • [23:27:01] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - ok, won't allow mmcblk0 - "/dev/mmcblk0 is in use. e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting."
  • [23:27:15] <veremit> faddah_ exactly as I predicted :)
  • [23:27:37] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - skipped the boot ones...
  • [23:27:38] <veremit> SpyKu .. there's a kewl project for that kinda thing on the beagle iirc
  • [23:27:41] <faddah_> # fsck -f /dev/mmcblk0p1 fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 dosfsck 3.0.13, 30 Jun 2012, FAT32, LFN /dev/mmcblk0p1: 160 files, 36667/49047 clusters
  • [23:28:10] <SpyKu> Was thinking about getting some high storage USB drives to expand memory. The prices have gone down alot
  • [23:28:41] <faddah_> veremit & johnpaul - and finally: "fsck -f /dev/mmcblk0p2 fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) /dev/mmcblk0p2 is mounted. e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting."
  • [23:29:14] <veremit> SpyKu .. FreedomBone
  • [23:29:19] <SpyKu> :P
  • [23:29:31] <faddah_> veremit & johnpaul so... once again, how can i: a) restart the ssh daemon; b) restart the whole board (like gracefully shutting down & restarting any linux)?
  • [23:29:45] <SpyKu> sudo service ssh restart
  • [23:29:55] <johnpaul> ^
  • [23:29:56] <SpyKu> sudo reboot
  • [23:30:03] <veremit> +1 spyku
  • [23:30:19] <SpyKu> i'm learning fast :P
  • [23:30:27] <faddah_> SpyKu johnpaul veremit - ok, thank you
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  • [23:30:48] <faddah_> SpyKu KotH veremit johnpaul - i don't need to sudo as i all ready am 'root'
  • [23:30:59] <SpyKu> ok, the no "sudo"
  • [23:31:05] <faddah_> SpyKu KotH veremit johnpaul - at least i don't think i need to
  • [23:31:06] <veremit> faddah_ .. doesn't matter :)
  • [23:31:23] <veremit> but its our default suggestion lol not everyone logs in as root because of the potential for damage
  • [23:31:37] <faddah_> veremit - what do you log-in as?
  • [23:32:02] <veremit> debian :) or my user
  • [23:32:09] <veremit> depending on the platform
  • [23:32:22] <veremit> but I often 'sudo su' to get root terminal
  • [23:32:24] <faddah_> password for debian? i've created no other user
  • [23:32:31] <SpyKu> temppwd?
  • [23:32:31] <veremit> debian:temppwd normally
  • [23:32:34] <johnpaul> temppwd
  • [23:32:50] <veremit> RCN's default .. and I've installed about 5 of his debian's now lol
  • [23:32:56] <veremit> all but the Pi.
  • [23:33:07] <veremit> RPi .. the BPi is running RN's debian
  • [23:33:21] <johnpaul> And logging into your own user (or debian) is recommended, then using sudo su if you need to be root (recommended to only use if sudo commands don’t work)
  • [23:33:52] <SpyKu> Yes. i once borked my ubuntu from logging in VIA root and messing around :/
  • [23:34:03] <johnpaul> however, sudo su -c <command> will run the command as root and sudo su isn’t needed then :)
  • [23:34:07] <veremit> johnpaul .. I saw a good trick on RN's pages about 'su -c "echo" ' if you need to write ..
  • [23:34:14] <veremit> ... like that
  • [23:34:24] <johnpaul> :) Yep
  • [23:34:41] <johnpaul> You still need to preface su with sudo, however, I think.
  • [23:34:48] <SpyKu> Ah, ok. I think it's compiling now. No more "apt-get ***" errors
  • [23:35:00] <SpyKu> yes. Need to sudo su
  • [23:35:04] <faddah_> veremit, johnpaul & SpyKu - ok, successfully restarted ssh & rebooted board. is there a "shutdown" instead of "reboot" to bring the board down completely so i can unplug and try plugging it back in via regular USB, not debug cable, to see if it is working correctly now?
  • [23:35:18] <SpyKu> sudo shutdown now -h ?
  • [23:35:45] <faddah_> Spyku johnpaul veremit - what's the '-h' for?
  • [23:35:49] <SpyKu> halt
  • [23:35:49] <johnpaul> faddah_: running sudo shutdown now will work fine
  • [23:36:07] <veremit> faddah_ "shutdown -h now" or "halt"
  • [23:36:18] <SpyKu> no difference between "-h" and regular sudo shutdown ?
  • [23:36:21] <veremit> "-h" is for 'halt' "-r" for reboot
  • [23:36:55] <veremit> but you can shortcut to simply "sudo halt" or "sudo reboot" or even "init 0" and "init 6" which do the same thing (not necessarily in that order)
  • [23:37:19] <SpyKu> Hmm. I need to read some books on linux
  • [23:37:27] <SpyKu> any suggestions?
  • [23:37:52] <faddah_> that did i, thank you, all (veremit, SpyKu, johnpaul) - replugging into regular usb, not debug cable
  • [23:38:28] <johnpaul> SpyKu:There are tons of books, but if you look at topics that LPIC cover, its a really good start
  • [23:39:01] <johnpaul> SpyKu: for example, lpic 101 and 102 have i think 10 chapters
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  • [23:40:08] <SpyKu> Ahh ok. Thanks for the suggestion :)
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  • [23:40:52] <johnpaul> SpyKu: I don’t have any of my certifications yet (and some argue that they are useless) but I do intend to get my LPIC certs :)
  • [23:41:46] <johnpaul> SpyKu: I would argue that they are useless in the sense that it doesn’t prove what you know. but if you are job seeking, it is a buzzword for recruiters that see résumés.
  • [23:42:09] <johnpaul> faddah_: all set? :)
  • [23:42:45] <faddah_> johnpaul SpyKu veremit KotH - ok!! can log back in via straight USB and ssh in as root. phew!
  • [23:43:00] <johnpaul> veremit: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776799-servo-control-from-the-beaglebone-black — seems to be a nice start , but I’m not 100% convinced it is the best way of doing it
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  • [23:43:22] <johnpaul> faddah_: tadah! :) glad its working!
  • [23:43:50] <faddah_> now to see if i can bridge my internet from the Chromebook to the bbb - hang on.
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  • [23:45:59] <johnpaul> veremit: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776799-servo-control-from-the-beaglebone-black — seems to be a nice start , but I’m not 100% convinced it is the best way of doing it (sent before it said you disconnected)
  • [23:46:24] <veremit> dratted machine rebooted lol
  • [23:49:42] <faddah_> johnpaul, veremit & SpyKu - almost, but i still can't get beagle to see outside Internet bridging from my Chromebook. but i have to go now too -- meetings in downtown portland.
  • [23:50:16] <johnpaul> faddah_: Yea, that will be something that search Google may help wtih — I have never done a bridged conncetion with chromeos
  • [23:50:23] <johnpaul> searching*
  • [23:50:41] <veremit> faddah_ did you get usb networking back?
  • [23:50:54] <faddah_> veremit - yes
  • [23:50:59] <johnpaul> veremit: faddah_ said that he could ssh via usb :P
  • [23:51:09] <johnpaul> faddah_: (I said he, but idk if he or she) :P
  • [23:51:14] <veremit> well that a start :)
  • [23:51:23] <faddah_> johnpaul veremit - i'm a he, it's ok
  • [23:51:33] <veremit> good luck with bridging .. I'd recommend plugging it directly into your router ;)
  • [23:51:36] <johnpaul> faddah_: haha okay
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  • [23:52:24] <faddah_> veremit johnpaul - can i continue to plug it into my Chromebook & ssh into 192.168.7.2, _and_ also plug it into the router via ethernet?
  • [23:52:34] <johnpaul> faddah_: definitely
  • [23:52:53] <johnpaul> faddah_: you can run ‘ifconfig’ and you’ll see eth0 will get an ip from the router
  • [23:53:01] <faddah_> johnpaul & veremit - _both_ will work at the same time?
  • [23:53:04] <johnpaul> faddah_: yes
  • [23:53:06] <veremit> faddah_ yes
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  • [23:53:41] <SpyKu> ok, time for shower :)
  • [23:53:52] <johnpaul> faddah_: I have had a USB, Eth, and Wireless connection and everything worked fine
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  • [23:54:42] <faddah_> johnpaul - how'd you do wireless? a cape?
  • [23:54:57] <johnpaul> faddah_: nope, a usb wi-fi adapter
  • [23:55:11] <johnpaul> faddah_: there are a few that are supported, let me grab the link for the one i bought
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  • [23:55:42] <johnpaul> faddah_: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VDR37K/
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  • [23:57:47] <johnpaul> faddah_: essentially, you can plug that in, modify your /etc/network/interfaces file, and you will have wi-fi
  • [23:58:09] <faddah_> johnpaul veremit SpyKu - ok, ethernet connected to router. ping, however, is not working. :( tried pinging google.com, nothing.
  • [23:58:26] <johnpaul> faddah_: what does ifconfig say? Do you have an IP?
  • [23:58:35] <johnpaul> faddah_: also, are the lights on and working?
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  • [23:59:38] <faddah_> hang on - working now!!
  • [23:59:40] <faddah_> yay!
  • [23:59:50] <johnpaul> woot