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  • [00:34:52] <luciano> hi, i need help , can I use a beaglebone kernel with archlinux-arm rootfs ?
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  • [00:35:12] <veremit> yes
  • [00:35:24] <veremit> or gentoo
  • [00:35:27] <veremit> whatever you like
  • [00:35:36] <luciano> veremit, thanks!
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  • [00:39:35] <clvrmnky> luciano: I'm running it right now
  • [00:40:21] <clvrmnky> Almost all the distros mentioned on the elinux BB wiki are pretty solid and totally fun
  • [00:40:48] <clvrmnky> Debian and Arch are battling it out to see who gets the eMMC
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  • [00:48:15] <Jake_> Hey fellow beagle enthusiasts! I'm fairly new to using a microcomputer with an OS, previous experience only includes programming mcu's like the msp430, tivaC, etc. I'm using a BBB in my final undergraduate project design and had a question regarding the power pins on P9. I'm trying to power a GPS cape which I designed using the MTK 3339 chipset, however the VDD_3V3 pin headers are not supplying voltage to the pcb (I checked using a vo
  • [00:49:03] <veremit> clvrmnky .. would be interesting to see an arch script/image .. any idea who's working on it? or is it still in RN's domain!?
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  • [00:49:33] <Jake_> I'm powering the BBB through the 5V barrel jack and can boot into either Ubuntu or Android fyi
  • [00:51:09] <clvrmnky> Well, the Arch Linux folks are at http://archlinuxarm.org/
  • [00:51:36] <clvrmnky> They have root/boot images there, packages from their extensive PKGBUILDs
  • [00:51:39] <clvrmnky> So that's nice.
  • [00:52:17] <clvrmnky> It is a separate project from Arch Linux (which is x86/64 specific) and the Beagle folks.)
  • [00:53:39] <clvrmnky> I'm leaning toward arch because one command and I'm up to date. For the thing I'm doing a rolling release is best.
  • [00:54:04] <clvrmnky> But the Debian port is totally solid, too.
  • [00:54:34] <veremit> yeah I like gentoo .. but don't fancy compiling everything on the arm all the damn time.... lol
  • [00:54:51] <veremit> hence I'll probably stick to debian, particularly after the switch to jessie
  • [00:55:05] <veremit> I've been interested in trying out arch though
  • [00:55:07] <clvrmnky> Is that when the systemd stuff is done, too?
  • [00:55:25] <veremit> rn's got systemd in his wheezy images...
  • [00:55:32] <clvrmnky> Ah, ok.
  • [00:55:50] <veremit> I personally avoid the systemd though if I can help it .. but i don't see me re-configuring for openRC lol
  • [00:56:10] <clvrmnky> I'm a SysV/BSD person, so I wanted official systemd if at all just to swallow the whole pill at once.
  • [00:56:21] <clvrmnky> Arch is all systemd.
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  • [00:57:15] <veremit> its fine if it works .. but I think it has its .. erm .. issues lol
  • [00:57:37] <clvrmnky> It has been a learning experience. Personally, I'd rather if this particular system was more init/conf file based, but I need that sweet Linux community support. So here I am.
  • [00:58:13] <clvrmnky> Basically, if pfsense was on the ARM, I'd probably be using it :)
  • [00:58:56] <clvrmnky> I'm ignorant of "rn". Is that a person or a org?
  • [00:59:40] <veremit> eewiki.net .. robert nelson .. done a LOT of work with embedded arm systems
  • [00:59:53] * clvrmnky nods
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  • [01:01:39] <clvrmnky> More on topic, I've got some embedded experience, just not on the ARM or with prog pins so much. I'm considering actually using the GPIO capabilites on my otherwise boring project. Should I just bit-bang in the Linux manner, or is wiringx recommended.
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  • [01:05:32] <veremit> high speed gpio you probably want to involve the PRU's or something
  • [01:05:36] <veremit> I've never used io on the beagle
  • [01:05:51] <veremit> using an arduino for real-world integration lol
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  • [01:09:19] <clvrmnky> I'm thinking of a blinky light thing.
  • [01:09:32] <clvrmnky> It's an edge box, so big red light when something needs attention
  • [01:09:48] <veremit> yeah you can use /sys nodes I think for low-speed stuff
  • [01:09:49] <clvrmnky> Dancing cylon lights when someone ectually reads my blog.
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  • [01:10:21] <nerdboy> there is gpio python interface
  • [01:10:54] <nerdboy> kernel modules for various sensors, etc
  • [01:10:57] <clvrmnky> nerdboy: I saw that. Is it too noob to ask how python and wiring[x] fit together?
  • [01:11:18] <clvrmnky> i.e., WTF is wiringX? The web site is opaque to me.
  • [01:11:29] <veremit> not sure I'd wory about wiring(x0
  • [01:11:36] <veremit> isn't that basedon wiringPi or somesuch
  • [01:11:39] <clvrmnky> That's what I like to hear.
  • [01:11:40] * nerdboy has heard of wiring_py
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  • [01:12:17] <nerdboy> i was thinking bbb,gpio or even adafruit wrapper
  • [01:12:42] <clvrmnky> I'm trying to get a handle on how to start. Like, I grok rendering a C-like language into a chunk of event driven loop code for a modern uprocessor.
  • [01:13:20] <clvrmnky> But doing this as a service within Linux is foreign to me.
  • [01:13:46] <nerdboy> with the sensor stuff i think i ended up reading in a loop
  • [01:13:57] <clvrmnky> My previous projects I've owned the processor, or had multiple processes task switching. Standard embedded stuff.
  • [01:14:11] <nerdboy> web service uses same interface i think
  • [01:14:27] <clvrmnky> ok, so a service with a busy wait or nice polling loop.
  • [01:14:51] <clvrmnky> nice == let's try not to soak up all the CPU
  • [01:15:09] <nerdboy> take a look at adafruit gpio python stuff
  • [01:15:42] <nerdboy> think it's a cython module backend anyway
  • [01:16:22] <clvrmnky> So, let me spitball a bit. You get a port using some Linux API, and do some stuff to it to make it an input, output, or whatever. Then you open that port and do unnatural things to it. Then, your hardware responds, as long as it is designed within spec.
  • [01:16:22] <nerdboy> https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python
  • [01:16:29] <clvrmnky> Is that about right?
  • [01:16:32] <clvrmnky> nerdboy: yes,
  • [01:16:44] <clvrmnky> I need to study adafruit links more. Boomarked.
  • [01:17:07] <nerdboy> that's about right for i2c devices
  • [01:17:08] <clvrmnky> Bookmarked, even.
  • [01:17:40] <nerdboy> leave pins in clean state after you do unnatural things...
  • [01:17:49] <clvrmnky> Of course. But good point.
  • [01:18:17] <nerdboy> some devices are not compliant and have unclean protocols
  • [01:18:37] <clvrmnky> Also not suprising. Hardware is bane of software's existence.
  • [01:18:46] <GenTooMan> I liked Boomarked myself explosive :D
  • [01:18:53] <nerdboy> bitbang is last resort, but maybe the most fun... for some people at least...
  • [01:19:30] * nerdboy thinks there is generic gpio kernel module even
  • [01:19:35] <clvrmnky> bitbang is great to prototype, but then you end up shipping.
  • [01:19:44] <nerdboy> in latest kernels anyway
  • [01:20:00] <clvrmnky> I'll look for my distro
  • [01:20:22] <clvrmnky> This is good stuff. I'm actually taking notes. Well, saving this entire conversaiton to a log. Same thing.
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  • [01:21:28] <nerdboy> CONFIG_GPIO_OMAP and CONFIG_LEDS_GPIO
  • [01:21:52] * clvrmnky looks
  • [01:22:02] <nerdboy> i2c and spi too, so make sure you have those
  • [01:22:12] <nerdboy> CONFIG_I2C_GPIO, etc
  • [01:22:42] <nerdboy> and there is CONFIG_GPIO_GENERIC
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  • [01:23:18] <veremit> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio/sysfs.txt
  • [01:23:39] <nerdboy> you'll have to look at those and see what the interfaces look like
  • [01:24:05] <clvrmnky> Good stuff. I have all of that in my stock kernel, either in the kernel or as modules.
  • [01:24:15] <nerdboy> CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS if nothing else
  • [01:24:34] <clvrmnky> Much obliged. This is the sort of info I need to bootstrap myself to smarter questions.
  • [01:24:51] <veremit> clvrmnky gotta start somewhere :)
  • [01:25:01] <nerdboy> sensor module interfaces a tad better than i2c-gpio interface... maybe...
  • [01:25:33] <clvrmnky> I fully expect to make typical mistakes and rediscover the discovered. It's part of the process.
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  • [01:26:47] <nerdboy> if you really like arduino stuff better then kernel module is okay
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  • [01:28:03] <clvrmnky> "like"
  • [01:28:19] <clvrmnky> Just more familiar.
  • [01:28:52] <clvrmnky> I don't think of Linux as an embedded platform still. Typically, I own everything.
  • [01:29:18] <clvrmnky> Like, you fdo your own memory checksums to make sure cosmic rays haven't borked your runtime.
  • [01:29:36] <nerdboy> https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Python_GPIO <= this is not bad example of using the bbb.gpio backend
  • [01:30:11] <clvrmnky> I think I'm 3 clicks into that one.
  • [01:30:59] <nerdboy> previous url is backend
  • [01:31:11] <clvrmnky> Well, that's a start. Seems a shame not to use the expansion ports for something, anyway.
  • [01:31:39] <veremit> true
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  • [01:31:54] <veremit> I need to get a header on some veroboard :D
  • [01:32:04] <ds2> sigh.... RC servos are not a standard size
  • [01:32:13] <veremit> maybe tack on an RTC module and some stuff
  • [01:32:19] <nerdboy> the python interfaces use i2c/spi kernel modules
  • [01:32:21] <veremit> ds2: is ANYTHING a standard Anything?!
  • [01:32:49] <ds2> veremit: you'd think the physical size is standard so people can put them into RC models easily
  • [01:32:57] <ds2> and yes - fasteners are standard
  • [01:33:17] <veremit> you'd think so .. and yet the americans still use imperial .. :P~
  • [01:33:30] <ds2> nothing wrong with imperial
  • [01:33:36] <ds2> it works. makes more sense
  • [01:33:41] <veremit> just the rest of the world ditched it years ago .. :p
  • [01:33:41] <honestly> lol
  • [01:33:46] <GenTooMan> Well they are sort of semi standard you have micro mini standard and really big RC servos what are you doing with the servos?
  • [01:33:59] <veremit> lol GenTooMan .. sounds as close as you get ;)
  • [01:34:12] <ds2> GenTooMan: I got 2 that differs slightly in size... doing a robot platform
  • [01:34:26] <ds2> it is close enough I can squeeze sheetmetal
  • [01:34:40] <honestly> http://kaero.wz.cz/jokes/imperial-vs-si.png
  • [01:35:19] <GenTooMan> <ds2> do you have the correct sweep angle for them? Their are several types you have 60 90 120 180 and 360. You probably won't want to use 360 as they tend to be a bit specialized.
  • [01:35:40] <veremit> its the old story .. know ya sh1t .. ;) lol
  • [01:35:44] <ds2> GenTooMan: continuos rotation
  • [01:36:04] <veremit> ah servo-motor :p
  • [01:36:09] <ds2> GenTooMan: I can drive it just fine from the BBB. it is the mechanicals. just got the sheetmetal worked out
  • [01:36:20] <ds2> yes. too lazy to get H bridges
  • [01:36:32] <GenTooMan> <ds2> that would be a 360. Most of them are mounted with wood and wood screws believe it or not.
  • [01:36:35] <veremit> ds2: doesn't every first prototype need the file/angle-grinder/tin-snips??
  • [01:36:55] <ds2> veremit: that is what CAD is suppose to do :P
  • [01:37:02] <veremit> usually the third one actually works
  • [01:37:07] <veremit> ds2: yeah. Right. lol :)
  • [01:37:17] <ds2> GenTooMan: I see. I did a box frame to hold them but one is bigger then the other
  • [01:37:43] <ds2> if I feel like it, I'll do another one. for now, sheetmetal bulges but holes things together
  • [01:38:10] <GenTooMan> <veremit> The imperial standard works fine as long as people consistantly use it on a project. It's a pain when you are testing something and the morons spec 150F and all your devices use C (65.555555).
  • [01:38:38] <ds2> people are focusing too much on conversions
  • [01:38:38] <veremit> lol
  • [01:38:51] <veremit> 100 inches very different to 100mm :D
  • [01:39:03] <ds2> a foot is roughly the lenght of a foot. easy to explain and grasp
  • [01:39:07] <GenTooMan> <ds2> really never guessed. 1m isn't a yard? :D
  • [01:39:10] <ds2> a cm? wtf is that
  • [01:39:34] <veremit> an oddity you get taught in schools -sigh- lol
  • [01:39:53] <GenTooMan> what about a dm? or an hm I want a hm! :)
  • [01:40:05] <veremit> I'll take a km :D
  • [01:40:27] <ds2> what's a common thickness for paper? 2-3mils or 0.075mm? 75000um?
  • [01:40:39] <ds2> it isn't scaled in a sane manner
  • [01:40:43] <veremit> ds2: depends on the paper ;P
  • [01:40:48] <veremit> 120gsm or ..
  • [01:40:53] <veremit> oh wait .. you won't understand that ..
  • [01:41:02] <veremit> :D
  • [01:41:06] <ds2> that's like calling out 20lb paper
  • [01:41:13] <GenTooMan> you could go by basis weight. :d
  • [01:41:24] <ds2> it doesn't really tell you how thick it is w/o a lot of calculations
  • [01:41:42] <ds2> if the goal is conversions, we need a powers of 2 measurement system. then just use a computer
  • [01:41:51] <veremit> why do you need to know thickness of paper, unless you're designing a copier/printer?! lol
  • [01:41:53] <clvrmnky> And 16 fingers
  • [01:42:05] <ds2> cuz some of us use paper to shim stuff
  • [01:42:21] <ds2> what do you do when you need to adjust thickness in 3-4mil range?
  • [01:42:23] <veremit> old skool ;)
  • [01:42:31] <veremit> surface grinder :D
  • [01:42:32] <ds2> no, doing practical stuff
  • [01:42:43] <veremit> think that does um.
  • [01:42:54] <ds2> if you are working in 3-4mils, you don't need a surface grinder
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  • [01:43:16] <ds2> 3-4 millionth maybe
  • [01:43:17] <GenTooMan> Actually it's very important to know paper thickness. For example if you are laminating 2 films with an adhesive layer at 200m per minute it is important to know what it's total thickness is for 250 sheets in a box.
  • [01:43:18] <clvrmnky> There is a company that sells shims in packs of X, that offer exact thicknesses in expected tolerances.
  • [01:44:03] <GenTooMan> I use to work in the tag and label industry and calculate basis weights in my head, I got better however :D
  • [01:44:42] <ds2> it is extremely useful to know the typical thicknesses of common items
  • [01:45:37] <GenTooMan> When you are working on a driver for a thermal printer knowing tolerances is important :D
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  • [01:46:00] <ds2> for added fun - both mks and cgs are metric
  • [01:48:01] <GenTooMan> anyhow topic wise is their a cross compilor suite for Gentoo and the beagle boards?
  • [01:48:31] <veremit> GenTooMan .. build your own
  • [01:48:32] <ds2> what's wrong with the linaro, CS, etc toolchains?
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  • [01:48:38] <veremit> ctng
  • [01:49:21] <ds2> that requires actually running a script!
  • [01:49:38] <veremit> no .. thats the point .. CTng does it all for you :D
  • [01:49:49] <GenTooMan> I use scripts all the time
  • [01:49:55] <veremit> I can't remember where I saw how .. it was a 1-liner
  • [01:49:55] <GenTooMan> I write em too
  • [01:50:03] <veremit> scripts are good :)
  • [01:50:11] <chainsawbike> GenTooMan, gentoo has crossdev - it will build a cross-compiling toolchain for you
  • [01:50:35] <GenTooMan> <chainsawbike> thanks for the reminder ...
  • [01:50:50] <ds2> you got to run ctng
  • [01:52:18] * chainsawbike uses a chroot + qemu-user to build stuff for his BBB
  • [01:54:01] <ds2> wonder how well does qemu-user work on the board itself
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  • [01:59:34] <GenTooMan> I just need to reinstall gentoo and use UEF for getting it to boot again. Sadly I borked the boot a while back the drive won't boot anymore (mutter)
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  • [02:00:37] <veremit> ew uefi
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  • [02:01:34] <nerdboy> uefi is a pain...
  • [02:01:40] <GenTooMan> so us grub2
  • [02:01:44] <GenTooMan> is even
  • [02:01:59] <nerdboy> gparted livecd does boot correctly for grub2 uefi install
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  • [02:02:12] <nerdboy> or manual repair
  • [02:02:43] <nerdboy> and grub2 doesn't make it less paiful...
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  • [02:02:50] <nerdboy> *painful even
  • [02:03:03] <ds2> someone needs to make PCs with u-boot
  • [02:04:13] <GenTooMan> couldn't get it to boot right under my asus board I installed in november. Then it refused too boot at all the livedvd (sigh). the UEFI can make things more complicated at the same time I noticed.
  • [02:04:30] <nerdboy> down to 195 packages
  • [02:04:43] <veremit> sysrescuecd ftw
  • [02:04:52] <veremit> grub2 kinda works ..
  • [02:04:55] <nerdboy> gparted
  • [02:05:05] <veremit> gparted is on sysrescd
  • [02:05:18] <nerdboy> better interface
  • [02:06:00] <nerdboy> you do have to unhork ssh a little to log in remotely
  • [02:06:46] <veremit> gotta set pwd and start ssh on sysrescd .. but it works as long as you got a display attache
  • [02:06:49] <veremit> +d
  • [02:07:22] <nerdboy> gparted also needs tcpwwrappers disabled
  • [02:07:56] <veremit> lots of good stuff on sysrescd .. and its gentoo-based :)
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  • [02:11:15] <veremit> I think it will still work with RN's scripts too if you specify the CC :)
  • [02:15:57] <GenTooMan> hmmm probably something to do tomorrow
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  • [04:19:14] <aaronsnoswell> Hi all. I am using a BBB Rev C. I am able to enable and use ttyO1 using the command "echo BB-UART1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots", however when I try to do this using the file '/boot/uboot/uEnv.txt' the tty is not enabled after reboot.
  • [04:19:47] <aaronsnoswell> I got the above information from http://tenderlovemaking.com/2014/01/19/enabling-ttyo1-on-beaglebone.html and http://bh.sdc-csm.com/guides/beagleboneblack/uarts.html. Does anyone know why my tty does not turn on after boot using the /boot/uboot/uEnv.txt file?
  • [04:19:59] <aaronsnoswell> (This file did not exist - I had to create it btw)
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  • [04:27:06] <luciano> hi, i need help, how do compile this kernel https://github.com/beagleboard/linux ?
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  • [05:18:23] <aaronsnoswell> Hi again all. Sorry I got disconnected before. Did anyone have an answer for my previous question about ttyO1 not working?
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  • [05:19:22] <agmlego|skynet> nope. maybe try again closer to normal business hours in the US; much of the active population of this channel is partying or sleeping. ;-P
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  • [05:21:00] <stt_michael> you need to enable it via kernel cmdline in your uEnv
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  • [05:25:22] <stt_michael> I did it before on an old 3.8 kernel .. capemgr.enable_partno=BBB_UART blah
  • [05:25:37] <stt_michael> but that might not work with Device-Tree
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  • [05:32:44] <hitman_> hey !! the PRUs present in the BBB, can they control only some limited gpios or, all of them ?
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  • [05:35:12] <hitman_> also, i am having difficulty in understanding the gpio naming system as, different naming convention have been used at different places. like P9_27 and GPIO3_19
  • [05:37:04] <agmlego|skynet> Thta one is easy: P9 is the P9 header (as opposed to the P8 one), and the _27 is the 27th pin. THis is the physical location of the pin *on the board*.
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  • [05:37:26] <agmlego|skynet> The GPIO notation has to do with how the GPIO pins are laid out on the ARM itself.
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  • [05:39:07] <hitman_> how to relate GPIO3_19 with its physical location ?
  • [05:40:13] <hitman_> so does that means there are more GPIO pins in the ARM, than have been provided in the headers ?
  • [05:42:12] <agmlego|skynet> hitman_: You use the TRM and SRM to provide that mapping.
  • [05:42:27] <agmlego|skynet> Or, you know, any one of the myriad charts out there showing you what maps to where.
  • [05:42:44] <agmlego|skynet> And yes, absolutely there are more pins on the SoC than in the headers.
  • [05:45:23] <hitman_> ok, and what about PRU related GPIOs ? can they control any of the provided GPIOs or just those 25 low latency pins ?
  • [05:45:56] <agmlego|skynet> That, too, is detailed very well already in the documentation for the SoC and the board.
  • [05:47:19] <aaronsnoswell> Never mind - I figured it out.
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  • [06:17:11] <gshrikant> Hi, I'm trying to compile the 3.14 kernel for the BBB rev C.
  • [06:18:26] <gshrikant> I'm following the instructions on eLinux and Beagleboard.org which use a patch.sh script for patching the kernel before building it
  • [06:20:15] <gshrikant> But the kernel tree I checked out from github does not contain any pre-made shell scripts. Do I need to compose this file? Could anyone give me any pointers/resources to figure out what it contains?
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  • [06:25:51] <stt_michael> gshrikant, gotta confess the only things I know that work are from https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
  • [06:26:34] <stt_michael> otherwise there seem to be a zillion different variations of method
  • [06:27:28] <stt_michael> most of which are out-of-date lol
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  • [06:29:59] <gshrikant> So, the official repo doesn't contain the patch files, correct?
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  • [06:30:40] <gshrikant> I checked out Rob Nelson's repo and it seems the build scripts have been moved from bb-kernel to stable-linux too.
  • [06:31:20] <gshrikant> This is my first time building the kernel so I'm afraid I'm being a little blockheaded.
  • [06:32:53] <stt_michael> can you link me the page you'r elooking at .. the five I've pulled up don't seem to match what you're describing :)
  • [06:33:05] <stt_michael> (which, sadly, doesn't surprise me...)
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  • [06:34:48] <gshrikant> I am on the eeWiki page you linked me to. Under 'Linux Kernel' there are instructions to clone the bb-kernel repo.
  • [06:36:05] <gshrikant> and then patching it using the build-kernel.sh script. Is that how you intended me to proceed?
  • [06:36:19] <stt_michael> thats how I've always done it on all my arm boards so far
  • [06:38:21] <gshrikant> Yes, but the build-kernel Github repo seems to be empty. It seems to have been moved to stable-kernel.
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  • [06:38:39] <gshrikant> build-kernel -> bb-kernel
  • [06:39:26] <gshrikant> also, I understand that the patch scripts are for patching between different kernel versions? Or are they BBB specific config patches?
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  • [06:40:24] <stt_michael> various people have patched the central linux kernel repo
  • [06:40:33] <stt_michael> ti has its own variants
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  • [06:44:18] <stt_michael> gshrikant, the 3.8 'tree' has a patch script .. https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
  • [06:44:48] <stt_michael> gshrikant, .. looks like its present in 3.14 too .. https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.14
  • [06:44:57] <stt_michael> perhaps this is what you're looking for?
  • [06:46:25] <gshrikant> Yes!
  • [06:47:36] <stt_michael> yeah you're working from an old kernel repo :)
  • [06:48:48] <gshrikant> But isn't that repo deprecated. I pulled from beagleboard/linux
  • [06:48:53] <stt_michael> as it states on https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel .. you wanna move to https://github.com/beagleboard/linux
  • [06:49:12] <stt_michael> so if its referring to a patch.sh .. something hasn't cloned right
  • [06:49:41] <gshrikant> Yes, the new repo doesn't the patch script but the older unmaintained one does.
  • [06:50:59] <stt_michael> there is a different mechanism
  • [06:51:12] <stt_michael> you need to talk to rcn-ee when he's here .. he can probably explain what's changed
  • [06:52:16] <stt_michael> aight I gotta git .. bbl maybe
  • [06:52:33] <gshrikant> Thanks a lot for your help!
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  • [08:05:29] <bunty> hii
  • [08:05:37] <bunty> everyone
  • [08:06:05] <bunty> i am in a serious trouble
  • [08:06:24] <bunty> i am trying to connect my bbb to internet through a usb modem
  • [08:06:38] <bunty> but its not even detecting the
  • [08:06:39] <bunty> modem
  • [08:07:15] <bunty> my usb modem is zteac2739
  • [08:07:58] <bunty> please any suggestion
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  • [08:09:19] <bunty> while connecting the modem to bbb usb port
  • [08:09:50] <bunty> it showing no change in dmesg neither in lsusb
  • [08:10:09] <bunty> also the modem led doesn't blink
  • [08:10:52] <bunty> is bbb not able to provide sufficient power to the modem to operate
  • [08:13:45] <bunty> #ubuntuarm
  • [08:14:03] <bunty> #ubuntu_arm
  • [08:14:11] <bunty> #ubuntu-arm
  • [08:14:23] <bunty> any help
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  • [08:17:49] <veremit> bunty .. most likely you haven't installed/configured a driver for your modem
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  • [08:19:42] <veremit> wtf IS that thing anyway?!
  • [08:19:51] <veremit> ok .. afk :p
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  • [09:18:23] <bunty> plz anyone has any idea how to setup usb modem in successfully
  • [09:19:06] <bunty> plz anyone has any idea how to setup usb modem in bbb successfully
  • [09:19:51] <_av500_> does it work on your PC?
  • [09:20:02] <bunty> yes
  • [09:20:12] <_av500_> and nothing in dmesg?
  • [09:20:22] <bunty> no nor in lsusb
  • [09:20:26] <bunty> no change
  • [09:20:45] <_av500_> and you connexted it to the large USB port on the BBB?
  • [09:20:52] <bunty> yes
  • [09:21:58] <bunty> any suggestion
  • [09:23:09] <_av500_> not really
  • [09:23:24] <_av500_> do other usb devices work with BBB?
  • [09:23:28] <_av500_> usb stick?
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  • [09:23:44] <bunty> yes usb pendrive is working fine
  • [09:24:04] <bunty> the led on modem is also not blinking
  • [09:24:29] <_av500_> try a hub inbetween
  • [09:24:31] <_av500_> a powered one
  • [09:24:36] <bunty> is bbb not providing sufficient voltage to modem
  • [09:24:48] <_av500_> maybe
  • [09:25:10] <_av500_> if you have a multimeter and a steady hand you can check the 5V line on the USB port
  • [09:25:43] <bunty> k.
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  • [10:06:11] <libregeekingkid> I need help Using the WL18xx Cape with BeagleBone Black
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  • [10:21:07] <libregeekingkid> I need help Using the WL18xx Cape with BeagleBone Black
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  • [10:24:05] <tbr> libregeekingkid: it could help stating your actual problem. Not that I'd be able to help with it.
  • [10:25:25] <libregeekingkid> tbr: I have just got wifi cape from beagleboardtoys.com, I need help using it with a BeagleBone Black
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  • [10:30:48] <libregeekingkid> tbr: The cape is WL1836MOD w/ Chip Antenna
  • [10:31:29] <tbr> libregeekingkid: and did you try to look for information on making it work?
  • [10:32:25] <libregeekingkid> tbr: Yes I did and found these http://elinux.org/CircuitCo:WL1835MOD_w/_Chip_Antenna
  • [10:32:37] <libregeekingkid> tbr: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Using_the_WL18xx_Cape_with_BeagleBone_Black
  • [10:33:08] <libregeekingkid> But the Instructions are given for Angstrom, I want to use it with debian
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  • [10:50:57] <tbr> that doesn't look too hard to make work on debian
  • [10:53:10] <libregeekingkid> tbr: How will I get the toolchain?
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  • [10:58:21] <libregeekingkid> tbr: ??
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  • [11:04:39] <tbr> libregeekingkid: that will depend on the OS you are running on your laptop/PC
  • [11:04:57] <libregeekingkid> tbr: I am running Debian Wheezy
  • [11:08:36] <tbr> libregeekingkid: the TI wiki page gives you quite detailed information on those things. I'd *strongly* recommend to try to figure it out from those.
  • [11:08:48] <tbr> especially as I won't be feeding you with #exactsteps
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  • [11:11:02] <libregeekingkid> tbr: I don't need the exact steps. But wherever I am going on Wiki, the steps are for Angstrom running on BeagleBone. I want to use the Cape with Debian on BBB
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  • [11:21:38] <tbr> libregeekingkid: the instructions should work also for debian, where they don't, ask specific questions about things that fail
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  • [11:27:38] <libregeekingkid> tbr: that is what I thought as well but the section three on this page http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Using_the_WL18xx_Cape_with_BeagleBone_Black#Installing_ARM_Cross_Compiler_Toolchain is where I am stuck
  • [11:27:50] <tbr> why are you stuck?
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  • [11:35:56] <libregeekingkid> tbr: the toolchain download link is from angstrom url. I need something similar for debian
  • [11:37:32] <tbr> so you are blissfully ignoring the command that would work on ubuntu and debian?
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  • [11:39:49] <libregeekingkid> tbr: http://paste.debian.net/162397/
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  • [11:45:11] <tbr> libregeekingkid_: now that's finally the real problem
  • [11:46:14] <libregeekingkid_> tbr: And thats why I needed help
  • [11:46:41] <tbr> yes, but as you didn't specify that you tried this and got this error nobody knew that _this_ is the problem. do you understand that?
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  • [11:50:14] <tbr> https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains#unstable-chroot
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  • [13:13:56] <luciano> hi, i need help, how do compile this kernel https://github.com/beagleboard/linux ?
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  • [13:56:15] <KotH> luciano: what have you tried and why did it fail?
  • [13:59:11] <luciano> KotH, do not try anything yet, but I found a tutorial I'm now following http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/BeagleBone_Black, with this tutorial , i can run with rootfs of archlinux arm?
  • [14:00:08] <KotH> luciano: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
  • [14:00:46] <luciano> KotH, ok!
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  • [17:37:55] <Guest37821> in RoberCNelson script to build kernel what are ZRELADDR and how did he get that info from Technical Reference manual??
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  • [17:42:30] <KotH> if you wait here, you can ask him directly
  • [17:44:10] <Guest37821> kotH: he is a lead developer and i am afraid he might frown to my silly questions. but if he answers then thats great
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  • [17:45:50] <KotH> Guest37821: dont worry about that
  • [17:46:01] <KotH> Guest37821: if he'd hate that, he wouldnt come here and answer questions :)
  • [17:47:41] <Guest37821> KotH: that's greatness of good developers :) . well can you please answer the question ?
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  • [17:48:06] <KotH> sorry, i dont know it
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  • [17:48:33] <Guest37821> KotH: ohh thats okay! thank you.
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  • [17:54:32] <gshrikant> Hi, I am trying to build the 3.14 kernel from the Github tree.
  • [17:55:14] <gshrikant> There isn't much documentation on it but is running the script under ti_config_fragments the recommended method for generating the config?
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  • [18:04:34] <Guest37821> gshrikant: use derek molloy video he has given nice explaination
  • [18:05:06] <Guest37821> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ9nUqYMjqs
  • [18:07:07] <gshrikant> Guest37821: Thanks, I'll try that.
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  • [18:12:19] <gshrikant> The video is about patching the mainline kernel with the BBB configuration.
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  • [18:12:50] <gshrikant> I figured the BBB repo should have the patched kernel.
  • [18:13:16] <gshrikant> The 3.8 branch in the git repo does have a defconfig on the top level directory
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  • [18:33:19] <ds2> 4.0 or bust.
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  • [18:34:49] <ds2> sure
  • [18:35:03] <ds2> then we will get to revert all the DT patches ;)
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  • [18:39:41] <veremit> I thought a lot of beagle stuff had hit mainline by now .. hence it don't need so much patching :p
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  • [18:59:13] <veremit> ping pong ..
  • [19:00:36] <ds2> veremit: are you ELCing?
  • [19:01:34] <veremit> depends .. what IS that :P lol
  • [19:01:51] <ds2> Embedded Linux Conf.
  • [19:01:58] <ds2> M-W @ SJC
  • [19:03:13] <veremit> ah doubt I'm affording flights :/
  • [19:03:21] <ds2> oh
  • [19:03:22] <veremit> and hotel :\
  • [19:03:51] <veremit> gonna try pull in one of the european ones sometime soon
  • [19:03:56] <veremit> mate has been to fosscon
  • [19:04:28] <ds2> isn't europe more $$$$$$$$
  • [19:05:03] <veremit> america is a nightmare
  • [19:05:23] <veremit> used to be ~$600-700 for a return set .. now its more like $900+
  • [19:05:44] <veremit> I went to CA twice in '08-09 when it was kinda affordable and I could fly from a regional airport
  • [19:05:48] <veremit> London friggin sucks ass
  • [19:07:05] <veremit> oo they do one in Ireland in Oct
  • [19:07:11] <veremit> somewhere I've never been ...
  • [19:07:41] <KotH> dublin is nice
  • [19:07:44] <KotH> i can recommend it
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  • [19:08:48] <veremit> looks much smaller .. not surprisingly
  • [19:09:10] <KotH> with good food and friendly people too
  • [19:10:58] <veremit> I need a viable time-share in CA .. lol .. I like it there but there's this thing called the USCIS
  • [19:11:46] <veremit> there's a couple of con's I wanna see .. gonna do foscon next year I think
  • [19:12:28] <veremit> rats wrong name ..
  • [19:12:45] <veremit> FOSDEM ..
  • [19:12:59] <veremit> brussels .. just catch the train direct from london :)
  • [19:14:40] <KotH> fosdem is crazy!
  • [19:15:15] <veremit> yea?
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  • [19:16:43] <KotH> veremit: imagine close to 10k oss people at one spot
  • [19:17:15] <veremit> :)
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  • [20:35:17] <BeagleBug_> The LAN port is not lighting up on BeagleBoard xM. Can anyone please help?
  • [20:38:04] <veremit> BeagleBug_ .. have you connected up a serial console to the debug port? what does it say? (serial parameters are usually 115200,8n1)
  • [20:38:16] <veremit> .. and no flow control.
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  • [21:24:34] <a121> hello
  • [21:25:23] <a121> i have a question
  • [21:26:19] <a121> how can i see all the hardware caracteristics
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  • [21:26:51] <a121> like the processor version
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  • [21:29:13] <veremit> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack
  • [21:30:23] <a121> thanks
  • [21:30:47] <a121> but i want to see it on the board
  • [21:31:01] <a121> like the hardinfo
  • [21:31:07] <a121> program
  • [21:31:37] <a121> :)
  • [21:31:51] <veremit> you won't get it from the software :p
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  • [21:32:38] <a121> u.u
  • [21:32:40] <veremit> I'm 90% certain its not programmed anywhere
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  • [21:35:54] <KotH> a121: an embedded system isnt a pc
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  • [21:36:07] <KotH> a121: most of the parts cannot be discovered like cards you plug into a pc
  • [21:37:11] <a121> ok
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  • [21:42:24] <KotH> a121: the usual assumption is, that people who use an embedded system know exactly how the hardware looks like
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  • [21:49:08] <veremit> KotH .. usually because we did the research to find out, before we bought it :)
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  • [21:49:57] <KotH> veremit: no, usually because you designed it yourself :)
  • [21:50:49] <veremit> KotH - or that :P
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  • [21:54:53] <luciano> hi i need help . y try run qt application with archlinux but i recived this error :error while loading shared libraries: libQtGuiE.so.4
  • [21:55:26] <KotH> then you didnt install the qt libraries correctly
  • [21:55:34] <KotH> or the wrong version
  • [21:59:46] <ddrown> My first circuit board design is a BBB Cape - http://blog.dan.drown.org/beaglebone-cape-for-navspark-ns-t/ It has bugs, though
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  • [22:13:30] <luciano> KotH, i try run but i recived this message : cannot connect to X server , i need instal xorg server?
  • [22:13:59] <KotH> you can run qt programms without xserver
  • [22:14:05] <luciano> with -qws?
  • [22:14:09] <KotH> yes
  • [22:14:45] <luciano> but i recived himself message
  • [22:15:14] <luciano> i install "tea" for archlinux, to test qt application
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  • [22:21:39] <veremit> KotH .. well thats a luxury thats not necessary with the appropriate distro build :P
  • [22:22:30] <veremit> what is rather disgusting is the proliferation of ubuntu X builds for arm devices .. ick.
  • [22:22:50] <KotH> that wouldnt be a problem, if they would be done properly
  • [22:23:13] <veremit> debian minimal works .. gentoo stage3 works .. I think there is an arm build of arch iirc
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  • [22:23:57] <veremit> angstrom and yocto are a bit awkward to the newbie
  • [22:24:15] <veremit> some would say thats a good thing .. but .. yeah .. lol.
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  • [23:03:40] <luciano> i try but i recived this message: probandoqt: cannot connect to X server :0.0
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  • [23:09:00] <jamesaxl> hello
  • [23:09:05] <jamesaxl> KotH: i Opensuse
  • [23:09:12] <jamesaxl> hi
  • [23:09:41] <KotH> jamesaxl: the last time i used suse, there was no open prefix
  • [23:10:19] <jamesaxl> KotH: maybe it was not free (i mean freedom)
  • [23:10:46] <KotH> it was more free than it is today
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  • [23:11:33] <jamesaxl> KotH: which version then ?
  • [23:11:46] <KotH> 6.0
  • [23:12:12] <jamesaxl> KotH: nice, the first time i used suse , it was 9.1 version
  • [23:13:41] <KotH> jamesaxl: next you tell me that you are a 14y old who learned php from his father? ;)
  • [23:14:42] <jamesaxl> KotH: of course no , i am perl geek , php just for sillies :)
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  • [23:18:34] <jamesaxl> KotH: you ?
  • [23:18:56] * KotH is a generic geek
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  • [23:28:26] <jamesaxl> KotH: i do not beleie :)
  • [23:30:13] <jamesaxl> KotH: try this http://golf.shinh.org/
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  • [23:31:52] <KotH> no time for games like that
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  • [23:33:22] <jamesaxl> KotH: anyway, they are bot games
  • [23:33:37] <jamesaxl> s/not/bot/
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  • [23:35:52] <KotH> golf is a game
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  • [23:36:11] * KotH is currently reading into non-linear description of oscillators
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  • [23:43:28] <jamesaxl> KotH: http://funduino.de/
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