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  • [03:56:20] <clvrmnky> My BBB won't boot from a 5v power supply. The serial console says "U-Boot SPL ..."
  • [03:56:59] <clvrmnky> It's finding /something/, though. The text is slightly different depending on if I have the boot button pressed on power up or not.
  • [03:57:16] <clvrmnky> The PS is 5V, center positive, testing with a DMM.
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  • [03:58:35] <clvrmnky> (No idea if it is unable to provide the 1A it promised -- though it does boot if power is supplied via mini-USB. So the current reqs can't be that high.)
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  • [04:02:43] <nerdboy> bad brick, recycle it
  • [04:02:51] <clvrmnky> Pressing the power button gets the same message, depending on if the boot button is held.
  • [04:03:13] <clvrmnky> Or, you knowm, run it off USB.
  • [04:04:06] <nerdboy> my guess would be serious voltage sag with nominal current draw
  • [04:04:14] <nerdboy> chuck it
  • [04:04:43] <clvrmnky> Oh, you mean the PS wall wart?
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  • [04:05:35] <clvrmnky> nerdboy: I thought you meant chunk the BBB
  • [04:05:51] <clvrmnky> Which sounded excessive
  • [04:06:22] <nerdboy> "bad brick"
  • [04:06:38] <clvrmnky> How much current does a BBB draw, booting from uSD?
  • [04:06:54] <nerdboy> have to look at data sheet
  • [04:07:11] <nerdboy> some batteries/bricks that should work don't
  • [04:07:24] <clvrmnky> I couldn't find it in the usual places. I'll admit I only looked moderately hard.
  • [04:07:32] <nerdboy> keeping them around is just trouble...
  • [04:08:20] <clvrmnky> For shits and giggles I might set up a simple circuit and measure the current and voltage. But, yeah, I'm leaning toward this being a shitty PS.
  • [04:09:29] <clvrmnky> I have no idea why 5v centre positive is so rare in my parts bin.
  • [04:09:50] <nerdboy> need to measure it under load, but i bet it's closer to 4V than 5
  • [04:10:09] <clvrmnky> Yeah, I got a little EE experience, so I have a load circuit in mind.
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  • [04:11:00] <clvrmnky> heh, as it warms up it is now closer to 6v. That ain't a good sign.
  • [04:12:16] <veremit> I had a 12v PSU that was putting out 14V on Friday
  • [04:12:23] <nerdboy> same thing, just flip the sign bit
  • [04:12:25] <veremit> yeah that one gotta a label on it now
  • [04:13:01] <veremit> fine for anything with a switching converter on the end, but it was powering the 12v rail on an ATX psu .. yeah not gonna like that much
  • [04:14:10] <clvrmnky> Well, that's confirmed.
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  • [04:14:29] <nerdboy> last thing i think i popped were ceramic resistors in expensive crossover
  • [04:14:48] <nerdboy> cracked 'em in half
  • [04:15:52] * nerdboy does bob eucker "just a bit outside..." the joule heating limit
  • [04:16:15] <clvrmnky> Well, I'm going to say that it's the PS. Just cracked it open. It is all discrete parts, hand-soldered.
  • [04:16:43] <clvrmnky> The regulator so badly mounted it is barely making contact with anything else.,
  • [04:17:10] <veremit> nice
  • [04:17:13] <veremit> school project?
  • [04:17:14] <veremit> :D
  • [04:17:17] <nerdboy> see if you can make confetti
  • [04:17:57] <clvrmnky> Cold solder joints? For reals.
  • [04:18:37] <clvrmnky> It looks like a high school project, yeah. It's pretty funny.
  • [04:20:00] <clvrmnky> It's basically a USB charging thingy. They didn't even change the symbol printed on the case, which shows miniUSB.
  • [04:20:18] <nerdboy> overload a polypropylene cap
  • [04:20:54] <clvrmnky> BOOM
  • [04:21:28] <veremit> problem solved .. onto the next one
  • [04:21:36] <clvrmnky> Now I want to test and fix it for shits and giggles.
  • [04:21:42] * nerdboy would say loud "pop"
  • [04:21:50] <nerdboy> unless yours are very big...
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  • [04:22:45] <clvrmnky> Well, yeah. I was remembering the big ufarad elec caps I used back in the control shop. Not this little 22uf...
  • [04:23:05] <veremit> Tants go with a satisfying BANG too
  • [04:23:15] <veremit> even smallish ones
  • [04:23:55] <clvrmnky> Well, off to order another two wallwarts. Maybe one of them will work.
  • [04:24:03] <clvrmnky> ciao
  • [04:24:17] <nerdboy> never got a bad one from adafruit...
  • [04:24:40] <veremit> lady ada checks 'em personally .. rofl
  • [04:25:15] <veremit> seriuosly though .. she's a bit of a legend
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  • [04:27:48] <nerdboy> in a purely platonic way, i swear
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  • [05:25:37] <thunder_kk> any possible detailed tutorial to use dts with 3.14 kernel is what i want please help me
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  • [05:29:48] <nerdboy> follow wiki with mainline
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  • [05:31:17] <nerdboy> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
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  • [05:31:37] <nerdboy> or related machines on wiki...
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  • [05:32:22] <nerdboy> well, for more cape support try TI kernel instead
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  • [09:21:07] <Siragol> Hi friends..I have few questions about OpenGl drivers for beaglebone black
  • [09:21:26] <Siragol> where can i find and download them?
  • [09:28:23] <Siragol> Does anybody know where i can find OpenGL drivers(SGX) for beaglebone?
  • [09:28:53] <_av500_> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#SGX_Drivers
  • [09:28:57] <_av500_> thats your best shot
  • [09:29:14] <_av500_> ...Note, these are FBDEV only, no xorg/x11/etc......
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  • [09:34:27] <Siragol> <@_av500_> thanks..but there is mentioned that it is suitable for "3.14.x ti kernel". but the latest Debian has "3.8.13-bone70 kernel"
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  • [09:36:15] <Siragol> What should i do?
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  • [10:08:56] <KotH> Siragol: compile a kernel
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  • [10:16:57] <tbr> or update to it
  • [10:17:13] <tbr> there should be debian packages by RCN
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  • [10:22:43] <jamesaxl> hi
  • [10:23:21] <jamesaxl> should i use diode and transistor with IC L293D motors driver?
  • [10:23:52] <KotH> should i use a spoon or chopsticks with my meal?
  • [10:26:28] <Humpelstilzchen> there is no spoon
  • [10:26:32] <jamesaxl> KotH: you again OMG
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  • [10:30:05] <jamesaxl> KotH: Hey hitler
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  • [10:34:44] <KotH> jamesaxl: you are treating very dangerous grounds! i would suggest you stop going that way
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  • [10:36:06] <jamesaxl> KotH: ok sorry, how about opensuse
  • [10:36:59] <KotH> would be better
  • [10:37:40] <KotH> anyways... about your question: i hope you understood from my question how non-sensical your question is
  • [10:38:34] <jamesaxl> KotH: i understand it, thanks , the answer is yes and i shoulduse them
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  • [12:52:59] <alex___> Hi..I have a beaglebone black. It now boots from emmc. now i want to change boot to microSD.. how can i do that?
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  • [12:57:58] <alex___> Hi..I have a beaglebone black. It now boots from emmc. now i want to change boot to microSD.. how can i do that?
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  • [13:01:31] <adj> hold down the boot button while applying power
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  • [13:18:49] <alex___> thanks <adj>
  • [13:19:15] <bwarff__> anyone tried minix3 on their beagle ?
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  • [13:32:25] <_av500_> there was a guy that worked on it
  • [13:32:44] <_av500_> http://wiki.minix3.org/doku.php?id=developersguide:minixonarm
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  • [13:35:19] <bwarff__> yah, i noticed that work and wondered if anyone here had used it
  • [13:35:22] <bwarff__> i think i will have to
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  • [13:48:47] <_av500_> why?
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  • [13:54:16] <samael> i'm having problems with BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-02-19-2gb.img . i have a supported wlan0 card which is correctly listed by ip/ifconfig(8), but does not get activated at boot despite "auto wlan0" in interfaces(5). can't find the reason
  • [13:54:47] <samael> (and another minor issue is that systemd messages at boot are not showed at all)
  • [13:55:02] <samael> (on the serial console i mean)
  • [13:55:11] <bwarff__> _av500_: i like the idea of it and its nice to have a minimalist kernel
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  • [14:15:52] <_av500_> bwarff__: yes, minimalist indeed
  • [14:16:00] <_av500_> since the current one does nothing
  • [14:16:19] <bwarff__> if it has ethernet thats all i need
  • [14:16:33] <_av500_> I doubt it has
  • [14:17:20] <bwarff__> i belive it does, its missing most of the gpio
  • [14:18:08] <bwarff__> wouldnt do anything serious on i but i like the idea of minix *Shrug* :)
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  • [14:20:37] <_av500_> ah well, have fun :)
  • [14:23:58] <bwarff__> if i have any success, ill report back!
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  • [15:08:01] <clvrmnky> Arch strikes a nice balance between minimal DIY and having all the moving parts to do stuff. But I've only had it running on a BBB for a week or so.
  • [15:08:19] <clvrmnky> Debian and Arch are battling it out to see who gets the coveted eMMC spot.
  • [15:08:51] <clvrmnky> No idea is Arch can do anything reasonable with the HDMI or GPIO.
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  • [15:18:55] <_av500_> both are Linux
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  • [15:25:21] <clvrmnky> I thought Arch was a pony.
  • [15:25:33] <clvrmnky> (Yes, both are Linux. Uh.)
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  • [16:40:08] <bone__> hi
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  • [16:50:34] <bone___> Hi, I installed the latest image on my BBB (image:BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb); BBB is connected to my network, I work on MAC and use teh MAC terminal for a ssh connection. Works well so far, BUT the editor VI behaves strange. I have the impresion the locale setting of vi??? my MAC arrow keys result into the letters ABC and D... (MAC locale is German) any ideas?
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  • [16:58:17] <tbr> bone___: sounds like you're used to ViM and not Vi
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  • [16:59:27] <GenTooMan> is nano installed on the BBB distro? that might work better.
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  • [16:59:55] <tbr> or just installing proper vim..
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  • [17:02:57] <bone___> Thanks GenTooMan, yes, I will go with nano, that is installed.. Thanks tbr, yes that is reasonable.
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  • [17:21:12] <GenTooMan> now for a silly question debian-jessie-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2015-03-08.tar.xz I assume that's for SD card correct? I noticed some images are labeled MMC and I just wanted to make sure I got the correct image.
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  • [17:22:53] <GenTooMan> from https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2015-03-08/lxqt-4gb/
  • [17:23:11] <tbr> looks like it
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  • [17:35:16] <GenTooMan> Ok I was just momentarily confused, I hope :D
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  • [18:21:56] <buonpastore> hello
  • [18:23:09] <buonpastore> someone wanna chat
  • [18:23:11] <bone___> Hi, I play with the latest debian image for the BBB. Since I formerly used DT to configure the PINs of CAN I now figured out that in the latest debian image there isn't a dtc command anymore and also there are no more precompiled overlays anymore in /lib/firmware... Did this change? who can I read about it, I barely find any information about it. I would like to know/figure out how configure PINs now. Thanks a lot.
  • [18:23:53] <bone___> BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb.img
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  • [18:26:07] <GenTooMan> you may wish to try an image from https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/ in the release directory?
  • [18:28:59] <bone___> yes, switching back is an option, but I'd be interested on how to solve this in the current release. I appears to me like they just updated the image, but nobody yet spent any word about changes or submitted changes to the wiki/manual.
  • [18:29:44] <nerdboy> not sure if there's a dt/cape package in deb arm
  • [18:30:09] <nerdboy> "normal" linux-firmware package wouldn't include that afaik
  • [18:31:15] <nerdboy> bone___: should probably make a card and get all hthat stuff on there yourself
  • [18:31:50] <nerdboy> maybe another emmc image has it, like machinekit?
  • [18:32:35] <nerdboy> dt blobs aften get installed to /boot anyway
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  • [18:35:38] <nerdboy> one apt-get and it hit 100%
  • [18:36:10] <nerdboy> openembedded image is much smaller
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  • [18:55:34] <samael> bone___: it depends on the kernel you're using. for some reason (which i don't know and didn't find written anywhere yet) latest debian images ships with TI kernel, which has dt overlays for capes compiled in the main platform dt file (given that i understand well). thus there is not capemgr (and will never be available, still [C[C[C[C[Ciiuc)
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  • [18:57:18] <samael> but you can just use apt to install "legacy" 3.8 kernel which will restore capemgr if you rely on it.
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  • [18:57:44] <samael> (sorry for mistypos above, tmux+irssi messed up something..)
  • [18:57:45] <bone___> thanks a lot
  • [18:58:35] <samael> bone___: and if you find some documentation on how to write/integrate dt overlays to use with TI kernels, pls let me know :)
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  • [18:59:54] <bone___> hmmm, this means there wouldn't be any pinmux changes be possible during runtime anymore?
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  • [19:02:39] <bone___> where do I find the "main platform dt" precompiled file. does TI provides the source for it?
  • [19:04:02] <samael> sorry, too far beyond my knowledge at present. having such things cleared would be extremely interesting for me too
  • [19:06:12] <bone___> thanks anyway =)
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