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  • [00:02:01] * Set by jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner on Fri Jan 30 15:50:42 UTC 2015
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  • [00:39:18] <Guest61435> Is it possible to remove the power connector from BBB and hard wire power to it?
  • [00:40:32] <Guest61435> I want to power it from my car battery using a step down thing I found on the Internet that would provide the 5 amps
  • [00:41:06] <mrpackethead> everything is possibel
  • [00:41:10] <mrpackethead> but why would you ?
  • [00:41:18] <mrpackethead> it seems very overkill
  • [00:42:26] <Guest61435> And you're right, it maybe I'm just afraid of that connector failing. I'm using it for an amateur radio purpose and it won't be moved but I figured a hardwire would be a clean set up
  • [00:43:43] <Guest61435> And it is easier to hardwire it instead of finding a 12 V power source with the right connector on the end
  • [00:44:05] <veremit> make a lead
  • [00:44:11] <veremit> or chop one in two :)
  • [00:44:43] <veremit> I've just been cannabalising a bunch of PSUs that are no use to me
  • [00:45:05] <Guest61435> I thought about cutting the cord and attaching Anderson power pole to it. One side it would be the 5.5 MM connector I need and the other side would have a red and black power pole on it
  • [00:45:19] <Guest61435> Basically a quick disconnect without having to remove the connector
  • [00:45:40] <veremit> in fact .. I made a lead up to power a beagle from a 5V switchin supply I stole from somewhere else :D .. its on a 'ups' supply with a lead-acid backup battery :D
  • [00:46:11] <veremit> runs from 7-1x volts
  • [00:46:42] <veremit> had to cut a track on a step-up that was onboard though lol
  • [00:47:45] <Guest61435> Can I post links in here?
  • [00:47:57] <veremit> yup
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  • [00:50:11] <veremit> ok time to git .. bbl :)
  • [00:52:51] <Guest61435> http://m.eachbuyer.com/dc-dc-converter-12v-step-down-to-15w-5v-3a-power-supply-p14004.html?currency=USD&utm_source=google&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=%5BPLA%5DAmerica(EN)&gclid=CjwKEAjw8oSoBRCss4qDrP3Y7yUSJACKumZ9HFwa3uyrC4Pv3Om5LCTOt5rb7nn2pRw-T1Qz8n8-phoC_Jnw_wcB&from=site
  • [00:54:09] <Guest61435> http://m.eachbuyer.com/12v-to-5v-usb-dc-dc-buck-converter-car-power-supply-regulator-p174591.html?currency=USD&utm_source=google&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=%5BPLA%5DAmerica(EN)&gclid=CjwKEAjw8oSoBRCss4qDrP3Y7yUSJACKumZ91YOCV6nOPO6Mq4gVGjOWdQeuzsNkTUzJUaqpq5byXRoCd3Lw_wcB&from=site
  • [00:54:51] <Guest61435> I was going to use one of those two items. I have a wireless to ethernet adapter that requires USB power as well so that USB one would work good for me I think I can cut off one USB port and hardwire it directly to the board
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  • [01:02:15] <Mikeguest> Not many people chatting
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  • [01:13:36] <rcn-ee> to save or not to save an old dead project from 2007 from google code......
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  • [01:23:24] <ifmx4ever> hello, I want to know how to access my beaglebone black from the internet.
  • [01:23:56] <rcn-ee> ifmx4ever, ever done dynamic dns & forward porting before?
  • [01:24:41] <ifmx4ever> no. I am willing to follow instructions if there is a URL that has information on it.
  • [01:26:32] <rcn-ee> google: "dynamic dns beaglebone black" lots of people have done it.. ;)
  • [01:27:07] <rcn-ee> it's really easy , if your wifi/ethernet router supports one of the dynamic dns compaines..
  • [01:27:27] <ifmx4ever> ok thanks. appreciate your help. Actually was not able to put in the correct search terms in google.
  • [01:28:41] <rcn-ee> the hard part is... are you double-nat'ed and what ports do your isp block..
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  • [01:32:22] <ifmx4ever> i am not sure about "what ports your isp block". And I do not believe I am double-nat'ed. Noob to BBB and networking. but I will read up and see what fits my need. Thanks again.
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  • [04:07:40] <Unbreakable> KotH, hi
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  • [09:34:30] <HeXtor> hi dudes, i am trying to keep connected the BBB to pc by the miniusb and at the same time I have a serial connection trougth the pin connector, but i can´t have both at the same time. It is posible?
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  • [09:35:25] <tbr> what is the problem with having both?
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  • [09:36:50] <HeXtor> the connection trougth pins is losed
  • [09:36:55] <HeXtor> lost*
  • [09:36:58] <woglinde> why should not both work?
  • [09:37:03] <woglinde> disable the getty
  • [09:37:08] <woglinde> for usb
  • [09:37:33] <KotH> connecting to different PCs?
  • [09:37:53] <KotH> if so, then you have probably different ground levels on both PCs
  • [09:38:16] <woglinde> koth ?
  • [09:38:39] <KotH> woglinde: potentialunterschiede -> ausgleichströme
  • [09:38:45] <HeXtor> one is connected to pc, another to electronic devide (arduino) using ttyO4, but i dont know wich one is used for the connection to pc
  • [09:39:58] <woglinde> proably ttyO1
  • [09:40:39] <HeXtor> and how can disable it programmatically?
  • [09:41:26] <woglinde> disable what?
  • [09:41:35] <woglinde> you have diffrent levels
  • [09:42:02] <woglinde> first bootloader on serial, second kernelmsg on serial console, third login(getty) on serial console
  • [09:43:02] <HeXtor> well, let me explain a bit better the situation
  • [09:43:18] <HeXtor> we have the BBB connected to an aduino, which controls a mechanical device
  • [09:43:36] <HeXtor> The arduino asks the BBB to perform some analysis by serial comunicatio
  • [09:43:49] <woglinde> sure
  • [09:44:03] <HeXtor> but we need the BBB to be connected to a PC all the time, since once finished the analysis, we want to send the results to the PC
  • [09:44:21] <HeXtor> the problem is that if both comunications are working, the comunication get lost
  • [09:45:02] <HeXtor> we thought on maybe disable the PC comunication when the serial is on use, and then enable it again when we need to send the results
  • [09:45:11] <HeXtor> but we couldnt find the command to do that either
  • [09:45:27] <HeXtor> maybe you know better know the problem?
  • [09:45:39] <woglinde> oh okay
  • [09:45:45] <HeXtor> by the way, i just checked,and both grounds (arduino and USB) are connected
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  • [09:45:53] <woglinde> why not use tcp/ip to communicate btw PC and bone
  • [09:46:04] <woglinde> much more reliable
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  • [09:46:43] <HeXtor> i didnt think on that to be honest
  • [09:47:03] <woglinde> thats why you are here
  • [09:47:09] <HeXtor> :)
  • [09:47:10] <woglinde> to get some new input
  • [09:47:47] <HeXtor> i will check on tcp/ip, but no easy way to enable and disable the USB connection then?
  • [09:47:51] <woglinde> HeXtor but it sounds like kernel bug when you communicate with two serial connections at the same time and something crashes
  • [09:47:55] <HeXtor> is there any easy command to do it?
  • [09:48:25] <woglinde> where is usb now comming into place hm
  • [09:48:39] <woglinde> I thought you are using the two serial hw ports
  • [09:48:50] <woglinde> musb is a large minefield
  • [09:48:59] <woglinde> it will not work reliable over some days
  • [09:49:00] <HeXtor> no, arduino is connected by serial, PC is connected by USB
  • [09:50:03] <HeXtor> will check the tcp/ip then
  • [09:50:10] <HeXtor> thanks a lot woglinde
  • [09:50:34] <woglinde> no problem
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  • [11:37:46] <raju> hi
  • [11:38:43] <raju> i want bulid kernal image for begale bone black
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  • [14:11:20] <ssk_> Can I discuss GSoC ideas for Beagleboard here or is there a separate channel for that
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  • [14:11:45] <av500> #beagle-gsoc
  • [14:11:47] <av500> and the mailing list
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  • [15:56:31] <dnivra> hello everyone! I'm running beaglebone black revision B. I wrote a Debian image to an SD card and it successfully boots on the beaglebone. But, I forgot the password of the debian installation. Is there some way I can reset it? I tried booting up Angstrom hoping to chroot into the SD card but I could find the SD card in /dev.
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  • [16:04:47] <woglinde> dnivra boot with sd-card mount the emmc and alter the passwd
  • [16:05:30] <woglinde> dnivra connect serial console interrupt u-boot change the kernel-cmdline to include init=/bin/sh
  • [16:05:48] <nerdboy> delete root passwd from /etc/shadow and login without one
  • [16:06:19] <woglinde> nerdboy if you can not login
  • [16:06:46] <nerdboy> boot card as above, mount emmc rootfs, ...
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  • [16:08:10] * nerdboy has morning blurry morning eyes...
  • [16:08:22] <nerdboy> moutn card on desktop, process as above...
  • [16:08:28] <nerdboy> *proceed even
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  • [16:23:17] <dnivra> nerdboy: thanks for the /etc/shadow tip :). it worked!
  • [16:23:54] <dnivra> woglinde: thanks for your tip too; will come in handy if I forget the Angstrom password :).
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  • [16:27:58] <woglinde> -> 17:04 < woglinde> dnivra boot with sd-card mount the emmc and alter the passwd same advice as nerdboy
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  • [16:29:22] <nerdboy> yes, woglinde gets the cookie
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  • [16:30:20] <dnivra> oh okay! I guess I misunderstood it completely then.
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  • [19:50:37] <mastiff> Is sgx support for x11 available?
  • [19:51:02] <mastiff> I have sgx installed as directed here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#SGX_Drivers
  • [19:53:20] <nerdboy> sgx modules have framebuffer driver but doesn't include Xorg driver for latest stuff afaik
  • [19:54:20] <mastiff> What does this do? ./ti-tilcdc.sh
  • [19:54:35] <nerdboy> probably depends on kernel/runtime versions, but i haven't had much luck the xf86-video-omap stuff
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  • [19:55:11] <nerdboy> looks like framebuffer lcd stuff to me
  • [19:55:15] <Haran_Banjo> hi, I've flashed my beaglebone black with the latest debian flasher, 7.8
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  • [19:55:40] <mastiff> it's listed as xorg drivers on the same elinux page, but I don't know if it relates to sgx
  • [19:55:57] <Haran_Banjo> but somehow I cannot boot fedora 21 from sd without pressing user button
  • [19:56:00] <nerdboy> got URI?
  • [19:56:39] <Haran_Banjo> what's the uboot version used in that flasher image?
  • [19:56:58] <mastiff> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Xorg_Drivers
  • [19:57:24] <Haran_Banjo> the boot line shows this string U-Boot SPL 2015.01-00001-gb2412df but u-boot sources are for version 2015.1, 2015-rc{1-4}
  • [19:57:29] <nerdboy> mastiff: i don't usually play with the vendor stuff, so am not up to dat probably...
  • [19:57:53] <nerdboy> rcn-ee has wiki page with mainline and sgx module install
  • [19:57:56] <rcn-ee> mastiff, it just set's up xorg to use fbdev...
  • [19:58:16] * nerdboy assumed as much
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  • [19:58:28] <rcn-ee> mastiff, https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/tools/graphics/ti-tilcdc.sh
  • [19:59:45] <rcn-ee> Haran_Banjo, u-boot release was : "2015.01"
  • [19:59:53] <mastiff> ok, so that script sets up xorg to use fbdev during bootup?
  • [20:00:08] <rcn-ee> mastiff, correct
  • [20:00:42] <mastiff> and am I understanding correctly that currently there is no way to have sgx acceleration for programs running on x11
  • [20:00:43] <Haran_Banjo> thanks rcn-ee
  • [20:00:46] <rcn-ee> mastiff, incorrect, it sets it up for "modesetting"... should probally change that back to fbdev, as people might compliain when it randomly locks up..
  • [20:01:33] <rcn-ee> mastiff, "full screen" only... ES 2.0 applications...
  • [20:02:27] <mastiff> I'm trying to run a fairly large qt5 app, but it's sluggish.
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  • [20:03:11] <rcn-ee> mastiff, qt5 brings something else to the table, since they also support eglfs...
  • [20:03:35] <mastiff> I wasn't sure if sgx was actually being used or not. I compiled qt5 natively after installing sgx on the BBB
  • [20:03:35] <rcn-ee> so as long as you use the qt5 eglfs backend (not x11) you will have egl/sgx acceleration..
  • [20:04:20] <mastiff> I was running the program from lxde, so it sounds like no graphics accleration was happening.
  • [20:04:48] <rcn-ee> did you built qt witih "-opengl es2 -eglfs" ?
  • [20:05:08] <mastiff> built it with -opengl es2
  • [20:05:20] <mastiff> didn't have the -egls option
  • [20:06:31] <rcn-ee> well build it with that and run your application with: -platform eglfs
  • [20:07:03] <mastiff> ok thanks, I'll try that.
  • [20:07:23] <Haran_Banjo> one more stupid question, is it sufficient to download build-essential from the flasher image or do I need a particular gcc version to compile uboot?
  • [20:08:21] <mastiff> so if it works will the program launch into full screen mode, rather than the normal window?
  • [20:09:10] <rcn-ee> Haran_Banjo, u-boot is built against many versions native/cross, doesn't really matter...
  • [20:10:38] <rcn-ee> mastiff, eglfs is a small windowing manager, it replaces xorg.
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  • [21:33:42] <help> so i just got a beaglebone black
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  • [21:34:05] <Guest68040> and i am on the bone101 page and looking for the gateone ssh client section but it is not on there
  • [21:34:33] <Guest68040> am i doing something wrong
  • [21:36:52] <rcn-ee> Guest68040, gateone is long gone... fire up cloud9 ide and the bottom witll have a terminal...
  • [21:37:20] <Guest68040> oh okay
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  • [21:38:47] <rcn-ee> or just use any ssh client..
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  • [21:39:19] <ds2> putty!
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  • [21:41:03] <veremit> openssh
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  • [21:45:59] <mrpackethead> The TI support model is going to the dogs.
  • [21:46:20] <mrpackethead> Support is from the E2E forums.
  • [21:46:52] <veremit> mrpackethead .. always has been .. completely useless
  • [21:46:58] <rcn-ee> it's e2e.... other non-ti's are suppost to answer the questions. ;)
  • [21:47:07] <mrpackethead> yeah.
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  • [21:47:54] <veremit> although .. unless you pay big $$ I've never seen any silicon supplier give true 'support'
  • [21:48:13] <mrpackethead> i'm about to order $80,000 of IC's.
  • [21:48:31] <mrpackethead> i woudl have thought they could have answered a resoanby simple question
  • [21:48:45] <mrpackethead> maybe they think, hes designed it in, so what can he do.
  • [21:48:59] <mrpackethead> having said, that TI is better than Broadcom.
  • [21:49:06] <mrpackethead> goodness they are the pits.
  • [21:49:07] <veremit> barely
  • [21:49:23] <GenTooMan> You can get a data sheet from TI at least?
  • [21:49:24] <veremit> I think eBen did fairlyl well with the Pi project .. he only sold a few million ..
  • [21:49:32] <veremit> GenTooMan .. I guess there is that
  • [21:49:33] <mrpackethead> yeah.
  • [21:49:41] <ds2> what do you need from them?
  • [21:49:50] <mrpackethead> i can get my datasheets now.
  • [21:49:55] <mrpackethead> I've signed 1700 pages of NDA's
  • [21:49:58] <Guest68040> i decided to use PuTTY
  • [21:50:10] <GenTooMan> Also there is the fact that a broadcom exec is part of the Pi project as well.
  • [21:50:12] <rcn-ee> mrpackethead, is this that fun cc3000?
  • [21:50:23] <mrpackethead> cc3200
  • [21:50:23] <Guest68040> do i just put the the IP as the bone101 page or do I put my actual IP?
  • [21:50:48] <ds2> oh those
  • [21:50:59] <rcn-ee> Guest68040, it depends on how good your pc os is... try: beaglebone.local first, then 192.168.7.2 then look at your router...
  • [21:50:59] <mrpackethead> ds2.. oh those.
  • [21:51:12] <veremit> lol
  • [21:51:25] <mrpackethead> they are pretty useful
  • [21:51:31] <mrpackethead> yeah, it doe'snt run linux
  • [21:51:43] <mrpackethead> but there a lots of applications where you dont' need to run a full OS
  • [21:51:46] <ds2> mrpackethead: for your next exercise, do the same thing with the Marvell equiv. parts
  • [21:51:49] <ds2> ;)
  • [21:51:54] <mrpackethead> ds2... lol.
  • [21:52:12] <mrpackethead> we are designing an ethernet switch
  • [21:52:23] <mrpackethead> around a Broadcom RoboSwitch Fabric
  • [21:52:39] <veremit> niiiice
  • [21:52:39] <mrpackethead> becuase the world needs another ethernet switch
  • [21:52:41] <mrpackethead> :)
  • [21:52:49] <GenTooMan> BroadCom is the big thing in ethernet switch fabrics at the moment.
  • [21:52:56] <mrpackethead> Oh yeah.
  • [21:53:02] <Guest68040> okay so i have logged in as root but i've never even used linux before so what do i do now
  • [21:53:03] <mrpackethead> they are the big leader.
  • [21:53:18] <mrpackethead> Guest, this is a very special day in your life.
  • [21:53:27] <mrpackethead> you are about to loose your linux-virginity
  • [21:53:35] <Guest68040> yes
  • [21:53:40] <mrpackethead> <snigger>
  • [21:53:44] <GenTooMan> DSL (Damn Small Linux)?
  • [21:54:17] <Guest68040> this is running debian, or so it says in the terminal
  • [21:54:34] <veremit> correct
  • [21:55:03] <Guest68040> but now i'm just staring at the terminal because i can't into this
  • [21:55:21] <Guest68040> im gonna check the faq out
  • [21:56:35] <Guest68040> oh man
  • [21:58:05] <Guest68040> okay so i did sudo apt-get update but it couldnt be resolved so i guess i need an ethernet cord
  • [21:58:48] <mrpackethead> Theres quite a strong community ( well growing ) around an open switching NOS
  • [21:58:58] <mrpackethead> Open Network Linux is based on debian
  • [21:59:01] <rcn-ee> Guest68040, correct, that's the easy way.. there are ways to share your pc's network connection, but it vaires on os...
  • [21:59:11] <Guest68040> found one!
  • [21:59:18] <mrpackethead> http://www.opennetlinux.org
  • [21:59:22] <Guest68040> how can i share the connection?
  • [21:59:32] <Guest68040> ill try that once i update it and stuff
  • [22:00:29] <Guest68040> ok i might have to do it anyways
  • [22:00:47] <Guest68040> so what do
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  • [22:38:05] <cantintolinux> hey guys
  • [22:38:07] <cantintolinux> im back
  • [22:38:42] <cantintolinux> is there any way to get my beaglebone to get internet without ethernet because its not really an option at the moment
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  • [22:43:45] <endrift> cantintolinux: you can tether it to a computer over the USB OTG
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  • [22:48:55] <cantintolinux> well it's tethered to the pc but when i try to update it, the beaglebone cannot resolve the page
  • [22:51:47] <cantintolinux> is that because i don't have internet access or is it something else
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  • [23:00:11] <endrift> cantintolinux: you need the right drivers on both ends, and then to bridge the interface
  • [23:00:16] <endrift> I don't recall how to do it offhand
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  • [23:05:38] <cantintolinux> dang i might look into it later tonight
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  • [23:24:04] <jamesaxl> i see that the data-sheet of L293D is easy :)
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  • [23:56:30] <zmatt> lol wtf... http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/408308