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  • [00:00:33] <Dragon__> Does nobody develop GUI applications for the BBB?
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  • [00:04:31] <Dragon__> Thanks for the time, then, and good night
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  • [00:22:22] <cmcqueen> Last week I was asking about loading PRU firmware with pruss_remoteproc driver. I found two things:
  • [00:22:57] <cmcqueen> 1. Copy compiler .out file to target /lib/firmware/rproc-pru0-fw
  • [00:23:34] <cmcqueen> 2. The compiled output file (ELF) needs a Resource Table defined in it.
  • [00:24:20] <cmcqueen> Then when I did insmod of pruss_remoteproc and virtio_rpmsg_bus kernel modules, my code loaded.
  • [00:24:37] <cmcqueen> For the Resource Table, I found a minimal one here: http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/368069
  • [00:26:03] <cmcqueen> I hope TI can provide some good "getting started" docs for remoteproc, resource table, and anything else needed to get PRU code running.
  • [00:28:03] <cmcqueen> I'm still having trouble with my code running "off the rails" and I am baffled. It's sending and receiving bytes on the PRU UART0. It runs okay until it receives a byte and tries to copy it to TX. Then the PC jumps to a location past the end of my code. The compiled assembler looks okay so I can't see anything wrong. What is a good way to debug PRU code? Is it possible to single-step when running in Linux via remoteproc?
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  • [02:07:28] <GenTooMan> Sorry I've no idea on the PRU
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  • [02:13:09] <cmcqueen> I will get a JTAG device so I can step through the PRU code outside the Linux environment. If the code fails under JTAG, then I should be able to debug it then. If it runs fine under JTAG, then I will look more closely at the Linux remoteproc loader and so forth.
  • [02:13:28] <cmcqueen> Having a working example from TI would certainly be a good starting point.
  • [02:14:52] <GenTooMan> Check to see if GDB is supported and you can debug under linux. Likely Eclipse even. TI seems to like Eclipse for their processors. Thier is a version of code composer studio that supports the sitara processors as well.
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  • [02:17:01] <GenTooMan> CCS6 is the latest the problem is the driver for the JTAG debugger you use. I know they have a working CCS6 for linux.
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  • [02:18:27] <GenTooMan> Hmmm unlike the MSP430 they don't seem too have as many examples I noticed. I probably should look at the PRU carefully as I myself have been oggling using a BBB for 'nefarious' things :D
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  • [04:59:13] <cmcqueen> Thanks GenTooMan. I'm using CCS 6 with TI's C compiler for the PRU to build the code at the moment. I'm getting a TI XDS100 JTAG device which, if I understand correctly, should allow me to run and single-step code on the PRU. But I assume not while Linux is running on the main processor... but unsure about that.
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  • [10:58:06] <_av500_> oops
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  • [11:55:23] <julemand101> hi
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  • [16:20:47] <pc__> Hi, how to share my connection with bbb using linux?
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  • [16:23:04] <pc__> toc toc toc Hi, how to share my connection with bbb using linux?
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  • [16:28:13] <tbr> pc__: over USB?
  • [16:28:43] <tbr> pc__: that will depend on your desktop linux. Ask on a support channel of your desktop distribution how to set that up.
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  • [17:30:35] <newsham> anyone know what the default clock input to the DMTIMER2-DMTIMER7 is?
  • [17:31:11] <newsham> it appears to be 24MHz on my device (or thereabouts) but I cant find any documentation saying it is this value
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  • [18:10:08] <axp> hi all, anyone using a tigal MikroBus Cape with CAN-SPI-Click?
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  • [18:28:37] <clockman> I have noticed that on BBB, when I hook up a powered USB hub to it, then power on the BBB, it does not like the USB at all. If I disconnect the power to the USB hub, then boot the BBB, THEN power the hub, everything works fine. Anyone know a workaround for this?
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  • [19:50:15] <mnemoc> hi, what's the right place (or ML) to talk about mainline support for an omap3 SoC which isn't supported by TI anymore? (dm8148)
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  • [20:04:14] <rcn-ee> mnemoc, linux-omap, dm814x should be working in the next merge (v3.20/4.0)
  • [20:06:29] <mnemoc> rcn-ee: amazing! thanks!
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  • [20:10:15] <_av500_> finally
  • [20:10:31] <_av500_> we can go back in time 5ys and make a product with it
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  • [20:35:18] <GenTooMan> Anyone have some example projects regarding the PRU? be cool.
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  • [20:36:13] <GenTooMan> axp: no but that's been more or less commonly used. Micro chip site should have a fair amount of info. I could look a bit if an ya need it.
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  • [20:45:04] <Milenko> afternoon.
  • [20:45:30] <Milenko> I just picked up a beaglebone black, seems the drivers for Network Over USB cant be installed on Win 10
  • [20:45:33] <Milenko> any workaround?
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  • [21:21:29] <rcn-ee> Milenko, did you bug Microsoft, seems like a bug, as the "signed" drivers currently work for Win 7/8/8.1: https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-getting-started/tree/master/Drivers/Windows
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  • [21:50:31] <_ssl> hi, it's me again. say i have installed the SGX drivers onto my BBB and verified they are loaded with lsmod like stated here (http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#SGX_Drivers). how can i write an application to use the graphics now? every tutorial/instructions i see are focused on Xorg, which, to my understanding is not supported by the SGX drivers. any (C++) lib i can use?
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  • [21:55:43] <_ssl> rcn-ee, you got an idea?
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  • [21:57:28] <rcn-ee> _ssl, sorry nope! it's limitation where pretty much usless to me, so other then preparing the blobs for other users, i haven't done much...
  • [21:58:15] <rcn-ee> best bit is probally sdl..
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  • [21:58:44] <_ssl> rcn-ee ok, thank you anyway. ill give sdl a shot
  • [21:59:11] <_ssl> since the sgx demos aren't there anymore, i can't really confirm it works
  • [21:59:45] <_ssl> perhaps ill get it going with sdl, will report if successful ;)
  • [22:00:09] <rcn-ee> _ssl, http://pandorawiki.org/GLES This is from the pandora guys, same linage of hardware as the bbb...
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  • [22:01:23] <Milenko> rcn-ee: I reset 10 into advanced mode and disable the driver check.
  • [22:01:31] <Milenko> works now, even got VNC running :)
  • [22:02:07] <_ssl> haven't heard of it but looks well documented, thanks
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  • [22:13:13] <woglinde> _ssl hm the wiki missed qt and wayland
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  • [22:16:32] <pugglebone> I'd like to connect a USB battery (5V, 1A) to power my beagle bone using the battery power pins. From what I can gather, TP5 for (+) and TP8 for (-) connection to the battery. Do I need to do anything else to it?
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  • [22:17:26] <pugglebone> From what I've read on the internet, there are links powering 3.7V LiPo batteries, but it seems like a USB battery should be much simpler. Is this true?
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  • [22:20:33] <_ssl> woglinde are you talking of the elinux.org or the pandora one? also, how can qt/wayland help me?
  • [22:27:35] <ds2> depends on your skills
  • [22:27:44] <ds2> a USB battery is inefficient
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  • [22:29:31] <pugglebone> i have enough skills to solder the header pins on, and plug in the correct polarities. It seems the easiest solution for me (have one, easy charging, and fits in the box I'd like to use)
  • [22:30:12] <ds2> to use a 3.7V cell, you need to understand the issues with it and size it appropriately
  • [22:30:20] <ds2> plus you loose the USB port unless you add a 5V booster
  • [22:31:15] <pugglebone> For my application, I will not need the USB port. However this 5V booster thing to enable the USB sounds interesting and i would like to learn more
  • [22:31:57] <pugglebone> I'd like to place my BBB in a box, with buttons to enable logging from accelerometer, gyroscope, and altimeter. l
  • [22:32:09] <ds2> read the TRM
  • [22:32:15] <pugglebone> Would that be too much electronics for a 1Amp supply.
  • [22:32:28] <ds2> heh... that is step 1 of what I am doing ;)
  • [22:32:43] <ds2> with the right sensors, nope.
  • [22:32:55] <pugglebone> what are you working on?
  • [22:33:44] <ds2> a head mounted system
  • [22:33:58] <ds2> or a smart glass if you want to use the term dejour
  • [22:34:06] <pugglebone> nice. i want to put it on my skateboard, and log data haha.
  • [22:34:07] <pugglebone> sweet
  • [22:34:22] <ds2> what are you logging to?
  • [22:34:31] <pugglebone> I'd like to log onto a uSD card
  • [22:34:41] <pugglebone> then SSH to pull data onto my computer
  • [22:34:57] <ds2> you will want to look up the mechanical specs on the uSD socket
  • [22:35:22] <pugglebone> yea. I need to format to FAT32. I think I've seen tutorials and believe its doable
  • [22:35:33] <ds2> was looking to use uSD in a high shock case and some of them won't guarantee the uSD card will remain functional
  • [22:36:12] <pugglebone> My box won't allow my to plug in via miniUSB to power device. I could cut holes, but I'd like to keep the protective aspect of box. I could go bigger box, but think this would be the right way to go
  • [22:36:14] <woglinde> _ssl inform yourself about qt and wayland and than you will see
  • [22:36:59] <ds2> just read the docs and verify it is sane before trying. otherwise, you could be frying boards left and right
  • [22:37:04] <pugglebone> hmmm interesting. oh crap, I will be seeing high shock in my test run.
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  • [22:37:26] <pugglebone> It seems sane to me, to connect a USB battery, which is regulated 5V 1amp max.
  • [22:38:26] <ds2> the socket is push to eject
  • [22:38:28] <pugglebone> to TP5 (battery connection point) and TP8 (system ground) to the (+) and (-) of battery
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  • [22:38:56] <ds2> TP5?????
  • [22:39:14] <pugglebone> Ive made my box kinda shock proof, enough shock proof? I will find out in my test :)
  • [22:39:18] <ds2> verify with the PMIC docs that will work
  • [22:39:40] <pugglebone> PMIC docs?
  • [22:39:45] <ds2> IIRC, TP5's "battery" refers to a Li battery
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  • [22:43:56] <pugglebone> hmmm so it seems safer to just use the USB battery plug into the mini USB to power device then?
  • [22:44:13] <pugglebone> would really prefer using TP terminals over that solution
  • [22:44:36] <ds2> No
  • [22:44:41] <ds2> plug it into the barrel jack
  • [22:45:02] <ds2> or the equiv. signal on the headers
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  • [22:45:55] <pugglebone> OK. So barrel jack says 5V, which means I can plug 5V into the headers...?
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  • [22:47:30] <pugglebone> TPS65217C doc says accepted input 2.7- 5.5V
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  • [22:50:35] <cybu> hi i have a question
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  • [22:51:10] <cybu> regarding the drivers on mac. Seems they have changed and as a result i cannot connect to my bbb
  • [22:52:34] <cybu> would anyone have clues on this? basically the step 2 (instal drivers) diesnot gv me a green
  • [22:55:44] <GenTooMan> pugglebone: NO look at the voltage levels on IO in detail.
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  • [22:59:22] <GenTooMan> pugglebone: The IO is not 5V tolerant (1.8V) power wise the 5V power is labeled. As for supplying power that is a different matter. You should look at the schematic for the BBB to verify everything.
  • [23:00:02] <ds2> GenTooMan: a stock BBB is configured for 3.3V IO
  • [23:00:02] <pugglebone> I'm pretty confused by this... IO you are referring to, is it the TP5, TP6, TP7, TP8 terminals?
  • [23:00:54] <pugglebone> I want to supply BBB with power, via battery pin terminals. using 5V 1AMP USB battery supply. Tutorials I've seen use 3.7V LiPo batteries
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  • [23:01:52] <pugglebone> I understand GPIO is only 3.3V on BBB. But supplying power, can I give 5V to TP terminals?
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  • [23:02:25] <ds2> maybe
  • [23:02:34] <ds2> the PMIC docs is the final decider
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  • [23:03:27] <pugglebone> I'm reading through TPS65217C as suggested by BBB SRM. Its hard to understand, other than voltage input can accept 2.8-5.5V I am not seeing much. BB
  • [23:03:41] <pugglebone> BBB SRM vaguely says you can connect a battery. refer to that doc.
  • [23:03:54] <ds2> which input can accept 2.8-5.5V?
  • [23:04:23] <ds2> there are 3 inputs on the PMIC
  • [23:05:00] <pugglebone> page 7, under RECOMMENDED OPERATING CONDITIONS:
  • [23:05:23] <pugglebone> supply voltage, USB, AC : 4.3(min) 5.8(max)
  • [23:05:45] <pugglebone> supply voltage, BAT: 2.75-5.5 V
  • [23:06:42] <pugglebone> then there are input voltage ranges for DCDC1/2/3, LDO1/2, LS1... configured as LDO, and LS1... as load switches
  • [23:06:50] <pugglebone> all of which fall within 5V requriements
  • [23:07:16] <ds2> those are driven from the SYS_5V rail
  • [23:07:18] <pugglebone> Seems like a simple solution right? USB battery and battery pin terminals? It's hard to find verification though
  • [23:07:50] <pugglebone> hmmm
  • [23:08:18] <pugglebone> but "Supply Voltage, USB, AC" and "Supply Voltage, BAT", those seem to refer to ports to power BBB right?
  • [23:09:08] <pugglebone> When I power BBB with power bank via miniUSB, device runs. It seems like using the battery terminal pins it should work too
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  • [23:11:59] <pugglebone> im gonna try it!
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  • [23:19:46] <Milenko> Can i flash the eMMC using USB?
  • [23:19:51] <Milenko> I dont have an SD card :(
  • [23:20:11] <ds2> yes
  • [23:20:23] <Milenko> got a link/tutorial?
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  • [23:21:25] <ds2> vvu is the guy to talk to
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  • [23:21:58] <Milenko> one more question, can i plug the USB in, as well as the 5v line?
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  • [23:25:50] <vvu> Milenko: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs
  • [23:26:07] <vvu> follow the steps there and in 5 mins you have a fresh eMMC with what you want
  • [23:26:22] <Milenko> i googled you lol
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  • [23:26:27] <Milenko> already installing beagledroid
  • [23:26:42] <vvu> beagledroid is outdated
  • [23:26:46] <vvu> look at the linux flasher
  • [23:26:49] <Milenko> er yeah, i read that again
  • [23:27:20] <Milenko> damn im on windows
  • [23:27:33] <vvu> no windows, but patches are welcomed :)
  • [23:27:53] <Milenko> hrmm
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  • [23:29:53] <Milenko> think itd work from a virtual machine?
  • [23:30:09] <Milenko> or would you consider that too risky
  • [23:30:23] <vvu> nop, tried it...just native linux
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  • [23:30:40] <vvu> u-boot ether usb fails when using a VM
  • [23:30:41] <Milenko> but i dont wanna reboot into aaarchhh :((
  • [23:30:55] <Milenko> meh, ok.. ill brb
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  • [23:31:22] <Milenko> oh quick question
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  • [23:31:29] <Milenko> can i use the USB as well as 5v line
  • [23:31:33] <vvu> yes
  • [23:31:34] <Milenko> or will that blow the board?
  • [23:31:36] <Milenko> ok cool.
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  • [23:35:47] <Milenko> Does this thing run android?
  • [23:35:57] <Milenko> sorry for all the noob questions, just got it today.
  • [23:36:00] <ds2> it can.
  • [23:36:04] <Milenko> cool
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