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  • [00:05:04] <chaincrusher> I'm looking for a console only image of debian, I found some here http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian but I can't get the pru to work with these (LEDscape)
  • [00:05:39] <chaincrusher> the kernel version is 3.8.13-bone69
  • [00:05:49] <chaincrusher> bone50 worked for me
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  • [00:09:25] <chaincrusher> anyone know where I can find something like bone50 without LXDE?
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  • [01:17:44] <jimi_hendrix> hey guys, i am trying to flash my BBB with ubuntu and i am getting some weird behavior
  • [01:18:14] <jimi_hendrix> the lights wil blink for about 5 minutes and then all four go solid
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  • [01:18:27] <jimi_hendrix> i should expect tht should occur after 20-25 minutes
  • [01:18:56] <jimi_hendrix> err
  • [01:19:01] <jimi_hendrix> 25-45 minutes
  • [01:19:53] <jimi_hendrix> then, when i reset the BBB, the lights continue to do the flashing thing for another 5 minutes then the same thing happens
  • [01:19:56] <jimi_hendrix> is this ok?
  • [01:20:01] <jimi_hendrix> or is something horribly wrong?
  • [01:20:17] <veremit> something's wrong .. they should keep flickering if the board is alive
  • [01:21:38] <jimi_hendrix> :/
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  • [01:22:53] <jimi_hendrix> veremit: any tips for figuring out what's up?
  • [01:23:39] <veremit> ah with flashing, however, the four leds going solid .. usually means its complete
  • [01:24:01] <veremit> you need to take the uSD out when you reboot to allow the board to boot .. else it will continue re0flashing
  • [01:24:15] <veremit> which sounds like what's happening
  • [01:25:10] <jimi_hendrix> hmm ok
  • [01:25:16] <jimi_hendrix> so did the install just tae 5 minutes?
  • [01:25:28] <jimi_hendrix> i removed the SD card and the usr lights are going like mad
  • [01:25:53] <veremit> shouldn't take too long
  • [01:26:05] <veremit> enough time to make a coffee :)
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  • [01:27:15] <jimi_hendrix> ok, well i have it hooked up to my computer again and am trying to run: ssh 192.168.7.2
  • [01:27:22] <jimi_hendrix> and the terminal just hangs
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  • [01:29:28] <jimi_hendrix> USB
  • [01:29:29] <veremit> I'm not 100% sure the stock ubuntu has the same net config/etc as the standard .. but someone else can probably confirm/deny
  • [01:29:49] <veremit> otherwise you to plug it into a router, check the router/s dhcp table for its IP
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  • [01:32:05] <veremit> gotta hit the hay .. good luck though .. should be something simple !
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  • [01:37:00] <RangerGeek> it keeps alternating between wlan0: associated and wlan0: disassociating from xx:xx:xx by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)
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  • [01:53:12] <veremit> sounds like wirless authentication is going wrong
  • [01:54:08] <veremit> and .. gone .. nite all I-)
  • [01:54:26] <RangerGeek> veremit - sometimes i get blips of wlan0: authenticated though, it just keeps getting deauthed somehow. no one else on my home network to be doing shenanigans.
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  • [11:15:02] <roken> Hey guys got a question about Real-Time Systems.
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  • [11:15:44] <roken> If you have developed software projects for real-time systems would that mean you're able to use RTOS?
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  • [11:19:30] <av500> ?
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  • [11:32:28] <vmayoral> Hey everyone, just got Dustin's Snappy Ubuntu Core image (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V2RGrMA7ag) running on the BBB however capemgr is not installed and I've run into trouble when trying to switch the kernel. I'm happy putting time into this and creating a Ubuntu Snappy image that the community can use. Is there anyone that can provide support on this matter?
  • [11:33:11] <vmayoral> I'm a big fan of Robert Nelson's walkthroughs on how to create a BBB image for different File Systems, maybe we could do something similar?
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  • [11:45:11] <ogra_> vmayoral, there is a #snappy channel too on freenode
  • [11:45:54] <vmayoral> thanks @ogra_, joined. For what i see the vivid (git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-vivid.git) kernel doesn't have capemgr support
  • [11:46:25] <ogra_> yes, that might be, you will find paolo as well as dustin in that channel to ask questions though :)
  • [11:47:04] <ogra_> (i dont think it is that branch we use for the BBB though ... its just mainline)
  • [11:47:32] <vmayoral> i see,
  • [11:47:52] <vmayoral> could you provide Dustin's and Paolo's nicknames or should i just shout it out?
  • [11:48:00] <Abhishek_> The future of capemgr is quite uncertain
  • [11:48:04] <ogra_> paolo is ppisati
  • [11:48:31] <ogra_> and dustin is krikland ... bnut he is in TX, might take a bit til he gets online ...
  • [11:48:52] <vmayoral> thanks @ogra_
  • [11:49:10] <ogra_> for building a custom device tarball you could take a look at https://ograblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/porting-ubuntu-snappy-to-a-yet-unsupported-armhf-board/
  • [11:49:26] <ogra_> (and indeed at the linked porting guide mentioned in that post)
  • [11:49:50] <vmayoral> I was just going through that post, great content btw
  • [11:50:47] <ogra_> thanks :)
  • [11:51:29] <Abhishek_> vmayoral: you still using 3.8.13 or bumped the kernel on the BeaglePilot image?
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  • [11:56:10] <vmayoral> @Abhishek_ started from Dustin's image and tried changing the kernel to the 3.8.13 ones that i compiled a while ago (https://github.com/erlerobot/kernels)
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  • [13:36:23] <nicks> can anyone recomend a USB-3G-modem that works "out of the box" with BeagleBone back (Debian)
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  • [14:24:53] <anates> Hi,
  • [14:24:54] <anates> is there a minimum size requirement for EEPROMs on custom capes for the Beaglebone Black (except the 244 bytes used for data)?
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  • [14:41:27] <yates> anyone know how i can get rndis working on my debian 7.7 (3.8.13-bone68) system?
  • [14:41:44] <yates> lsmod shows g_multi is not running
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  • [15:29:12] <yates> is mmcblk0p1 the internal or external sd?
  • [15:30:50] <av500> hmm
  • [15:31:00] <av500> doesnt it depend on boot order?
  • [15:31:06] <av500> I remember something about that
  • [15:31:21] <thurgood_> depends if you have the sd in lace at boot up
  • [15:31:28] <thurgood_> place
  • [15:31:29] <av500> ya
  • [15:31:54] <yates> ah.
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  • [15:32:46] <yates> if it were, then mmcblk0p0 is external and mmcblk0p1 is external?
  • [15:33:18] <thurgood_> no
  • [15:33:34] <thurgood_> blk is the device p is the partition
  • [15:34:41] <yates> mmcblk0 is external and mmcblk1 is internal?
  • [15:34:46] <thurgood_> mmcblk1 is the mmc if no sd is present
  • [15:35:01] <thurgood_> otherwise it's the sd.. if that makes any senese
  • [15:37:19] <yates> "df" on my current system shows /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounted to "/". there is no other mmcblkXYZ mounted. this has an external card inserted.
  • [15:37:41] <yates> so it doesn't make sense.
  • [15:38:39] <yates> this is a non-flasher version of debian, so we should be running off the external sd right?
  • [15:38:43] <av500> yes
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  • [15:39:58] <av500> p0 = boot partition
  • [15:39:59] <av500> p1 = root
  • [15:40:01] <av500> no?
  • [15:40:03] <yates> well, maybe all this is moot. what i really want to do is mount g_multi without the mass storage device functionality, i.e., JUST rndis
  • [15:40:39] <av500> im all for it
  • [15:40:48] <yates> av500: i think that's correct. but i was just interested in identifying the device, so the "p?" is irrelevent
  • [15:41:03] <yates> av500: lol!
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  • [15:51:09] <yates> in case anyone is interested, i just found out (thanks to help from derRichard) that g_ether is the RNDIS module. no need for g_multi
  • [15:51:20] <yates> derRichard: you're here too!
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  • [15:54:58] <thurgood_> yates, was the sd inserted at boot time?
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  • [15:58:06] <derRichard> yates: yep ;)
  • [15:58:17] <derRichard> but as i'm very busy i don't follow all channels
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  • [17:51:17] <Paul_> Hello everyone
  • [17:51:59] <Paul_> I urgently need help in loading DTO to the beaglebone black
  • [17:53:55] <Paul_> the dbto file is in the /lib/firmware but it seems that the BBBlack's kernel cannot read it, anyone know why?
  • [17:54:56] <agmlego|skynet> not without the exact error message and other relevant information.
  • [17:55:11] <yates> Paul: just placing it there does not load it
  • [17:55:44] <yates> http://www.digitalsignallabs.com/kb-debian-bbb.htm
  • [17:56:50] <yates> see section 3.1
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  • [17:58:50] <yates> thurgood_: yes (re: sd inserted at boot time)
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  • [18:02:20] <yates> Paul_: just placing it there does not load it
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  • [18:02:55] <Paul_> Thank you, Yates
  • [18:03:03] <yates> glad to help
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  • [18:06:27] <Paul_> I have the BBBlack with kernel 3.8.13. I used to have my DTO file .dbto working fine when O place it under /lib/firmware. For some reason, with this new BBB I cannot do it. When I do echo AAAA > $SLOTS, it says bad file name. AAAA being AAAA-00A0.dtbo file in the /lib/firmware.
  • [18:06:58] <ocamlman> what is $SLOTS set to?
  • [18:07:25] <ocamlman> I think the folder structure changed recently, you may have to change $slots
  • [18:07:43] <Paul_> $SLOTS is set to /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
  • [18:08:05] <agmlego|skynet> does yhst file exist?
  • [18:08:12] <agmlego|skynet> *that
  • [18:08:31] <Paul_> that file exists
  • [18:09:14] <Paul_> where is the document of recent change in structure agmlego?
  • [18:09:16] <ocamlman> are you operating as root?
  • [18:09:25] <Paul_> yes, I am at root
  • [18:09:38] <agmlego|skynet> Paul_: i have no idea.
  • [18:10:00] <Paul_> me either
  • [18:10:59] <yates> Paul_: so you can, e.g., ls /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots ?
  • [18:11:10] <Paul_> ocamlman, where is the document for structure change?
  • [18:11:23] <Paul_> yes yates
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  • [18:12:16] <yates> what happens if you enter teh command "cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots" ?
  • [18:12:49] <yates> cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots | pastebinit
  • [18:12:54] <ocamlman> Paul_, I am basing that off tutorials from ~ a year ago having invalid paths in /sys. in many cases the files I am looking for are one directory deeper than the tutorials suggest, thought I think capemanager is unchanged
  • [18:13:10] <ocamlman> I'll be back later, Im having some troubles of my own with capemgr though
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  • [18:13:27] <agmlego|skynet> i thought capemgr went away?
  • [18:13:43] <yates> agmlego|skynet: huh? when?
  • [18:14:23] <agmlego|skynet> idk, just jeep seeing peolle saying thst here.
  • [18:14:31] <agmlego|skynet> maybe six minths hence?
  • [18:14:48] <yates> Paul_: you ARE using debian, right?
  • [18:14:57] <agmlego|skynet> and wow this soft keyboard sucks.
  • [18:15:05] <Paul_> I use some of the GPIOs of the BBB to tilt an antennayes.
  • [18:15:15] <Paul_> yes. i use debian
  • [18:15:27] <yates> Paul_: oh yeah - we were chatting a few days back, right?
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  • [18:15:47] <yates> what does "lsb_release -a" say?
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  • [18:16:18] <yates> also, try this: cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots | pastebinit
  • [18:16:39] <Paul_> i use some of the GPIOs to control a stepper motor to do antenna tilt, anyone knows the beaglebone black well can work with me on this project, i can tell my boss about this
  • [18:16:45] <yates> you have pastebinit installed
  • [18:16:54] <Paul_> yates, this is the first time i talk to you
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  • [18:17:24] <Paul_> wait, yates, i am trying what yu said
  • [18:17:30] <yates> Paul_: what rate are you stepping?
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  • [18:17:38] <yates> how many pulses per second?
  • [18:17:52] <Paul_> the motor has 200 steps per revolution
  • [18:18:11] <yates> so how many RPMs do you want to run the motor?
  • [18:18:18] <Paul_> let me connect the BBB to the same computer here
  • [18:19:04] <Paul_> I don't know it yet yates
  • [18:20:44] <Paul_> basiccaly i designed a motor driver, from the BBB i only need to have signals like STEP and Direction generated from the BBB
  • [18:21:26] <yates> Paul_: what i'm getting at with these questions is that the simple IO using /sys/class/gpio/... is limited to around 3000 accesses/second. if you need higher rates, you'll probably want to use the PRU
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  • [18:23:17] <yates> which translates to around 300 RPM max, if i did the arithmetic correctly
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  • [18:25:14] <Paul_> i am back
  • [18:25:25] <Paul_> firefox gave me problem
  • [18:25:37] <Paul_> yates are you there?
  • [18:25:55] <yates> yes
  • [18:27:38] <yates> math was wrong - thats 450 RPM max (using 200 pulses/revolution)
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  • [18:27:54] <Paul_> when i did cat ..., only slots 4 and 5 shown
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  • [18:28:21] <Paul_> what is the math's formular?
  • [18:29:05] <yates> 1500 pulses/sec * 1 rev/200 pulses * 60 sec/minute
  • [18:29:26] <yates> a pulse is two accesses, so that's 3000 access/second - the max
  • [18:30:21] <Paul_> can i use function usleep to do this?
  • [18:30:53] <Paul_> I use c to write this program
  • [18:31:30] <yates> if it's not too fast, yes. but you will also get operating system preemption and so the pulses may be erratic
  • [18:32:06] <agmlego|skynet> this is a good job for the pru.
  • [18:32:26] <yates> it really would be much better to use PRU, but that's a much more complex task. not undoable, though
  • [18:32:32] <yates> agmlego|skynet: yes. i agree.
  • [18:32:44] <ddrown> usleep isn't very exact
  • [18:33:08] <Paul_> some of the examples in the book and in the net use it, i will try it out first, if i can do it, the i will use pru
  • [18:34:05] <Paul_> but, the first thing is i need to get this device tree overlay to work so that i can control the gpios,
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  • [18:34:32] <yates> Paul_: your cape manager seems to be working fine
  • [18:34:41] <yates> based on the output you stated (that's normal)
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  • [18:35:02] <Paul_> when i did cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots, there only slots 4 and 5 shown
  • [18:35:09] <yates> yes, that's normal.
  • [18:35:19] <yates> 1-4 are for capes, i believe
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  • [18:36:41] <yates> nix that last statement - not exactly right
  • [18:36:46] <Paul_> but when i copy AAAA-00A0.dbto to /lib/firmware, i should be able to see another slot (either 6 or 7) with this AAAA file, right?
  • [18:37:33] <yates> yes
  • [18:37:47] <Paul_> And I did not see it
  • [18:37:56] <yates> i don't think you can use "cp" - you have to use "cat"
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  • [18:38:06] <yates> don't know why, but i seem to recall that.
  • [18:38:10] <Paul_> that is the problem,
  • [18:38:19] <Paul_> i did use cat
  • [18:38:22] <veremit> did you capemgr.enable blah ?
  • [18:38:37] <veremit> there;s some trick to force loading in the capmgr module iirc
  • [18:38:44] <Paul_> i don't understand
  • [18:39:09] <veremit> or I got my wires crossed .. cape loads .. but dtb firmware doesn't... lol
  • [18:39:09] <yates> no. you have to use "echo"
  • [18:39:14] <veremit> echo, yes
  • [18:39:14] <yates> try echo, Paul_
  • [18:39:37] <yates> and you don't use the .dts extension
  • [18:40:02] <Paul_> i try echo and it says bad file name
  • [18:40:19] <yates> echo AAAA-00A0 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots
  • [18:41:07] <Paul_> i tried this too
  • [18:41:20] <Paul_> bad filename
  • [18:41:45] <veremit> pastebin your dtb?
  • [18:41:54] <veremit> or is it compiled ...
  • [18:42:07] <veremit> the firmware dtbo get compiled no?
  • [18:42:19] <veremit> never really got all this DT crap lol
  • [18:42:42] <Paul_> the file is AAAA.dts, after compiling it becomes AAAA-00A0.dtbo which is a binary file
  • [18:42:46] <yates> yes, veremit's question is good. did you compile your .dts file into a .dtbo file
  • [18:42:53] <yates> yes.
  • [18:43:03] <veremit> good
  • [18:43:22] <yates> and you copied the .dtbo file into /lib/firmware ?
  • [18:43:27] <Paul_> in the .dts file, version 00A0 is included in there
  • [18:43:31] <veremit> does the capemgr load dt now?
  • [18:43:35] <Paul_> yes, yates
  • [18:43:57] <veremit> I thought it just scanned the i2c bus .. then loaded some config that matched the i2c id
  • [18:43:59] <yates> Paul_: do an "ls -l /lib/firmware" and check the ownership/permissions to see if there's a problem with those
  • [18:44:22] <yates> your AAAA-00A0.dtbo should match the others
  • [18:44:46] <veremit> I'll stfu btw .. I'm behind lol
  • [18:45:05] <Paul_> the ownership is exactly the same with all other preloaded .dtbo files yates
  • [18:45:06] <yates> veremit: no, please don't. i need someone to correct my errors! :)
  • [18:45:33] <yates> is your bbb connected to the internet?
  • [18:45:40] <Paul_> yes
  • [18:46:01] <yates> echo AAAA-00A0 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots | pastebinit
  • [18:46:12] <yates> so we can see the error verbatim
  • [18:47:08] <Paul_> i take it back, my BBB is connect to a host computer, and the host is connected to the internet, can you see it?
  • [18:47:39] <yates> should work if you have your DHCP enabled on the bbb and the gateway etc is setup correctly
  • [18:47:51] <yates> wait
  • [18:47:57] <yates> you mean connected via USB?
  • [18:48:02] <Paul_> yes
  • [18:48:09] <yates> ah, then no.
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  • [18:48:47] <yates> i don't know why - i've tried that before too. i think it's because the default ndis has 192.168.7.1 as a gateway
  • [18:49:04] <yates> which ain't a gateway on my network...
  • [18:49:05] <Paul_> yes
  • [18:49:07] <veremit> are you connected via putty/ssh?
  • [18:49:12] <veremit> copy/paste maybe?
  • [18:49:41] <Paul_> now I have the BBB connected to a linux dbian system
  • [18:50:13] <Paul_> i can also connect it to this windows computer through putty
  • [18:51:13] <Paul_> veremit, you want me connect the BBB via putty?
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  • [18:52:02] <yates> Paul_: i have to go - good luck.
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  • [18:52:32] <Paul_> thank you, yates
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  • [18:55:38] <veremit> I was just thinking of getting the output from the bealge :)
  • [18:55:56] <veremit> obviously you're online from a internet-connected computer :)
  • [18:56:07] <veremit> so use that to pastebin your response from the beagle
  • [18:56:16] <veremit> its gotta be something .. daft .. :)
  • [18:59:44] <Paul_> yes veremit
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  • [19:01:17] <Paul_> Are you talking to me, veremit
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  • [19:09:36] <veremit> Paul_ : yes :)
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  • [19:18:19] <dmgta> Hey any owners or ops available to chat through pm?
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  • [19:21:57] <knob> dmgta, owner of a bb?
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  • [19:22:38] <dmgta> hey I need to speak with the team about a project i am working on and will need reseller rights or at least bulk discounts
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  • [19:25:33] <veremit> lol good luck
  • [19:25:44] <veremit> its not for production use, sadly.
  • [19:26:02] <veremit> and there aren't any discounts available for low-cost arm boards .. that I've found.
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  • [19:26:24] <dmgta> Either way i need bulk amounts from them
  • [19:26:25] <veremit> but you can take the designs .. they're open.
  • [19:26:34] <dmgta> regardless want to deal with them directly ;)
  • [19:26:35] <veremit> yea .. my company struggled to get 200
  • [19:26:40] <dmgta> wow really?
  • [19:26:43] <veremit> there just wasn't the production
  • [19:26:49] <dmgta> hmmm
  • [19:26:53] <veremit> circuitco were only doing a few 100s a week
  • [19:26:59] <dmgta> wow
  • [19:27:01] <veremit> you might try element12
  • [19:27:03] <veremit> 14**
  • [19:27:05] <dmgta> ok?
  • [19:27:16] <veremit> or was it 000s :)
  • [19:27:22] <veremit> it was quite modest, anyhow lol
  • [19:27:34] <dmgta> lmfao nice thanks
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  • [19:28:14] <veremit> easier to take the designs to your own fab house
  • [19:28:23] <veremit> imo
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  • [19:31:08] <veremit> odd considering they were selling hand over first
  • [19:31:10] <veremit> fist*
  • [19:31:15] <veremit> -shrug-
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  • [20:31:09] <nasamuffin> Happy Tuesday... hoping I could get some support in using GPIO interrupts through sysfs in C[++]?
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  • [20:34:12] <thurgood_> nasamuffin: probably best to just ask your questions and hope someone can answer them
  • [20:34:23] <veremit> yes, fire away
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  • [20:34:38] <veremit> wb yates
  • [20:34:45] <yates> thanks
  • [20:34:52] <yates> i got my own problems this time..
  • [20:35:02] <veremit> lol
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  • [20:35:13] <yates> derRichard: ok, i got the g_ether module loaded
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  • [20:35:28] <yates> but i'm not seeing the magic command to bring up usb0
  • [20:35:46] <veremit> yates : on the host side
  • [20:35:56] <veremit> lsmod shows it loaded?
  • [20:36:01] <yates> if i enable the usb0 configuration in /etc/network/interfaces and then do a "ifup usb0", i get "RTNETLINK answers: file exists"
  • [20:36:06] <veremit> ifconfig -a should list it
  • [20:36:27] <yates> yes, it lists it
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  • [20:36:40] <thurgood_> ifup?
  • [20:36:43] <yates> http://paste.debian.net/142567/
  • [20:36:43] <nasamuffin> will fire away... BBB rev C... believe I have set all up the gpio correctly through sysfs - the appropriate gpioN dir appears, i have set edge file to 'rising', but my expectation was that value file will remain empty until the edge is triggered. at present it reads the current value right away, so i can't do a blocking read on it
  • [20:36:46] <veremit> hmm I hate usb-gadget lol
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  • [20:38:48] <veremit> yates : try ifdown usb0 then ifup .. see if it resets/reinitialises?
  • [20:38:57] <yates> thurgood_: what? i do ifup usb0 and get the "RTNETLINK answers: file exists"
  • [20:39:19] <yates> ifdown: interface usb0 not configured
  • [20:39:29] <yates> veremit: ^^^^
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  • [20:39:36] <derRichard> please use ifconfig or ip directly to setup the interface
  • [20:39:43] <derRichard> maybe /etc/network/interfaces is buggy
  • [20:40:09] <thurgood_> do you have it set up in the interfaces file
  • [20:40:18] <yates> thurgood_: yes.
  • [20:40:29] <veremit> if it don't work command0line .. interfaces won't matter lol
  • [20:40:44] <veremit> so start manually .. then automate :D
  • [20:40:49] <yates> derRichard: ok, let me try that
  • [20:41:14] <thurgood_> you're using sudo for the ifup ifdown, right?
  • [20:41:16] <veremit> doesn't it "fake dhcp" from the beagle?
  • [20:41:49] <yates> thurgood_: like all default debian packages i've seen, there is no other account. i ssh in directly as root
  • [20:41:50] <veremit> I didn't think youhad to "configure" it .. it Just Works(tm) lol
  • [20:41:54] <thurgood_> if you want dhcp you need to do a lot more configuration, or use a wizard like firestarter
  • [20:42:07] <veremit> ok I gotta scoot .. bbl on my alter ego
  • [20:42:10] <yates> thurgood_: no, it's static - no dhcp
  • [20:42:14] <thurgood_> if you're going for network sharing
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  • [20:42:33] <veremit`AFK> d#oh
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  • [20:49:51] <yates> ip addr add 192.168.7.2/255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.7.255 dev usb0
  • [20:49:59] <yates> derRichard: is that the right syntax?
  • [20:50:28] <yates> "ifup usb0" results in "Ignoring unknown interface: usb0=usb0"
  • [20:50:52] <derRichard> ip a a 192.168.7.2/24 dev usb0
  • [20:50:55] <derRichard> ip l set usb0 up
  • [20:51:06] <derRichard> read on iproute2
  • [20:52:30] <thurgood_> yates are you configuring the host or the client?
  • [20:53:12] <yates> thurgood_: i don't know what you mean.
  • [20:53:29] <thurgood_> main pc, or bbb side?
  • [20:53:33] <yates> i'm configuring the bbb
  • [20:53:55] <thurgood_> ah, are you trying to use a non-standard distro?
  • [20:54:01] <yates> the pc is linux (fedora 20), which ran fine without any configuration on the initial out-of-the-box ndis
  • [20:54:31] <yates> on the initial bbb
  • [20:56:00] <yates> derRichard: i still get the "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" on the "ip a a ..." command. i ignored it, continued with "ip l set usb0 up", but i can't connect to 192.168.7.2 from my desktop - getting "ssh: connect to host 192.168.7.2 port 22: Connection timed out"
  • [20:56:35] <yates> yet the usb0 interface shows up in ifconfig on the bbb
  • [20:56:54] <derRichard> and the interface has already the ip 192.168.7.2/24
  • [20:57:01] <thurgood_> what does ifconfig w/o the a list?
  • [20:57:10] <yates> http://paste.debian.net/142571/
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  • [20:57:36] <thurgood_> looks like it's already up and running
  • [20:57:37] <yates> derRichard: what? i don't undestand your question
  • [20:57:54] <yates> no, it wasn't running before i issued those ip commands
  • [20:58:16] <yates> i commented out the usb0 interface configuration from the /etc/network/interfaces file
  • [20:58:16] <derRichard> it was no question.
  • [20:58:41] <thurgood_> connecting is another matter
  • [20:58:49] <yates> derRichard: i'm lost.
  • [20:59:14] <derRichard> what does "ifconfig usb0" list?
  • [20:59:36] <yates> http://paste.debian.net/142573/
  • [21:00:10] <derRichard> looks good
  • [21:00:27] <thurgood_> depending on distro there are a couple reasons it might not respond to ssh
  • [21:00:44] <derRichard> yates: can you ping it?
  • [21:00:53] <jamesaxl> can beagle do like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422327029&v=w2itwFJCgFQ&x-yt-cl=84838260
  • [21:01:00] <yates> derRichard: no.
  • [21:01:12] <derRichard> is the other side sane?
  • [21:01:17] <derRichard> is this a windows?
  • [21:01:22] <yates> no, linux, f20
  • [21:01:26] <yates> fedora 20
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  • [21:02:12] <yates> derRichard: during all this "configuration", the usb cable was plugged in (from restart). do i need to unplug and replug it?
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  • [21:02:52] <derRichard> wait a second
  • [21:02:56] <yates> ok, sure
  • [21:02:58] <nasamuffin> hate to interrupt.. wonder if there's something glaring with the interrupt code here... it seems like it should just work but instead what should be a blocking read just spins. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3825f1ba25ec6e6130aa
  • [21:03:18] <derRichard> you add 192.168.7.2/24 to fedora?
  • [21:03:23] <derRichard> did you configure also the bbb?
  • [21:04:02] <yates> derRichard: i did not add 192.168.7.2/24 to fedora. what do you mean by "add"?
  • [21:04:11] <yates> what do you mean by "configure also the bbb"?
  • [21:04:21] <derRichard> you need to configure both sides
  • [21:04:25] <derRichard> the bbb and fedora
  • [21:04:49] <yates> when i first got my bbb, i plugged in the usb and it worked. but ok, what do i configure?
  • [21:04:56] <thurgood_> nasamuffin: why would it block?
  • [21:05:25] <thurgood_> the pin always has a value to read
  • [21:05:25] <derRichard> yates: you have to configure ip addresses
  • [21:05:41] <nasamuffin> thurgood_: my understanding was that having set up /sys/class/gpio/gpio2/edge as 'rising' the value file wouldn't hold any value until the rising edge was triggered
  • [21:05:42] <yates> derRichard: on fedora?
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  • [21:06:09] <derRichard> nasamuffin: this is not c, this is c++ :P
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  • [21:07:06] <nasamuffin> derRichard: C being a subset of C++, trying both ways.
  • [21:07:27] <nasamuffin> derRichard: compiling with g++, c++11 flag set (long story)
  • [21:08:00] <nasamuffin> derRichard: tried with fstreams first, per someone's SO post that seemed reasonable. no dice, so i figured i'd try poll() also
  • [21:08:25] <derRichard> yates: you have to setup ip addresses on both sides
  • [21:08:57] <derRichard> nasamuffin: did you read https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio/sysfs.txt?
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  • [21:09:05] <nasamuffin> derRichard: most certainly
  • [21:09:12] <yates> derRichard: i already have an ip address for my host: 192.168.1.1
  • [21:09:20] <derRichard> 192.168.1.1 cannot work
  • [21:09:33] <derRichard> as it is not in the network 192.168.7.0/24
  • [21:10:53] <derRichard> nasamuffin: you can also use https://github.com/Linutronix/libgpio
  • [21:11:01] <derRichard> but all you need is poll(2)
  • [21:11:41] <derRichard> nasamuffin: here an ugly demo: http://paste.debian.net/plain/142575
  • [21:11:56] <nasamuffin> that was my hope at line 21 of the gist... poll til POLLIN raised, then read the file accordingly
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  • [21:12:53] <thurgood_> what steps did you use to configure the pin?
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  • [21:13:37] <nasamuffin> thurgood_: cat pin number to /sys/class/gpio/export, cat 'rising' to /sys/class/gpio/gpio2/edge, cat 'in' to /sys/class/gpio/gpio2/direction
  • [21:13:43] <nasamuffin> no quotes obviously
  • [21:14:44] <nasamuffin> derRichard: does it make a big difference per the example you sent to use open instead of fopen?
  • [21:15:33] <derRichard> pool works on a fd not FILE*. you have to convert the file handle to a fd first..
  • [21:15:36] <derRichard> *poll
  • [21:15:52] <thurgood_> If you use poll(2), set the events POLLPRI and POLLERR.
  • [21:16:10] <thurgood_> I don't see anything abou that?
  • [21:16:17] <derRichard> you have to set it as https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio/sysfs.txt states states
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  • [21:16:28] <thurgood_> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio/sysfs.txt
  • [21:16:36] <thurgood_> ... d'oh
  • [21:16:46] <derRichard> and btw:
  • [21:16:47] <derRichard> 22:06 < derRichard> nasamuffin: did you read https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio/sysfs.txt?
  • [21:16:50] <derRichard> :)
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  • [21:17:14] <nasamuffin> man! i know i sound like a noob but i DID, i've been wrangling this one for the better part of a week if you'll believe it
  • [21:17:36] <thurgood_> I can believe it sometimes you need the second set of eyes
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  • [21:18:24] <derRichard> this is why public review and opensource works :)
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  • [21:27:03] <nasamuffin> yikes... still no dice. still spins hard, still getting the correct value out of the pin despite
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  • [21:29:47] <nasamuffin> am i way off that poll(2) should block until the edge gets triggered?
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  • [21:36:45] <nasamuffin> and yet, the sample runs great. back to the salt mines to figure out what i screwed up :) thanks guys
  • [21:37:08] <thurgood_> are you still using fopen?
  • [21:37:14] <nasamuffin> neg
  • [21:37:34] <nasamuffin> turned fopen to open, fscanf to read, getting correct values but no blocking.
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  • [21:46:31] <nasamuffin> okay, maybe no. modified the sample to print if a value other than '0' was read and it looks like that code is spinning too
  • [21:47:28] <nasamuffin> is there no way to block and wait for an interrupt? my hope was to not have the infinite loop spinning so fast
  • [21:48:54] <thurgood_> do you have the latest pastebin?
  • [21:49:21] <nasamuffin> what i used: <derRichard> nasamuffin: here an ugly demo: http://paste.debian.net/plain/142575
  • [21:49:52] <nasamuffin> plus an else to the if(buf[0] == '0') to print in that case too
  • [21:50:25] <nasamuffin> getting constant prints while the pin is floating high, then when i pull it low i get one low print (plus bounce) and at that point it does seem to block
  • [21:52:10] <thurgood_> still don't have both event flags set
  • [21:52:40] <derRichard> my demo is designed to detect a pin going to low
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  • [21:55:29] <nasamuffin> let me improve the test setup, possible it's floating right on the trigger threshold or something dumb like that
  • [21:57:05] <thurgood_> not using a pullup?
  • [21:57:12] <nasamuffin> ^
  • [21:57:19] <thurgood_> or/down
  • [21:57:25] <nasamuffin> lazy lazy.... :)
  • [21:58:53] <nasamuffin> yeah....... sorry about that.
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  • [22:04:19] <thurgood_> ther's a couple of internet posts about throwing an extra read before the poll just to clear an previous value
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  • [22:06:19] <nasamuffin> yeah, i could see that helping from the behavior i saw after adding a pullup
  • [22:06:35] <nasamuffin> that said, the demo now IS working like expected, so i do have a really good jumping off point
  • [22:07:16] <thurgood_> cool
  • [22:08:33] <nasamuffin> thanks many :D
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  • [22:23:06] <jamesaxl> any idea how to made coptercooling ?
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  • [22:29:23] <agmlego|skynet> if we had any idea whst that is, maybe.
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  • [22:45:40] <jamesaxl> agmlego|skynet, https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422327029&v=w2itwFJCgFQ&x-yt-cl=84838260
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  • [22:59:32] <yates> derRichard: there is no host configuration specified for linux here: http://beagleboard.org/getting-started
  • [23:00:07] <derRichard> but you're messing the interals. now you on your own :)
  • [23:00:25] <derRichard> *with the
  • [23:01:14] <yates> derRichard: isn't the ndis configuration provided by g_ether equivalent to that provided by g_multi?
  • [23:01:40] <yates> and isn't g_multi used for the "out-of-the-box" experience?
  • [23:01:45] <ds2> NDIS depends on if you have that option enabled.
  • [23:01:54] <derRichard> should be. but i have no idea what else you have changed
  • [23:02:08] <derRichard> by default the bbb will run a dhcp server on eth0
  • [23:02:12] <derRichard> that's all
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  • [23:04:06] <yates> let me take a different tack: suppose we're using the standard, out-of-the-box bbb + os. what in that configuration, besides obviously loading the g_multi kernel module and maintaining the usb0 interface definition in /etc/network/interfaces, allows us to connect to a linux host without any configuration on the host?
  • [23:04:25] <rcn-ee> yates, udhcp
  • [23:04:44] <yates> rcn-ee: you're here! yay!
  • [23:04:58] <yates> you mean udhcp is on the bbb side?
  • [23:05:00] <rcn-ee> or dnsmasq in Jessie..
  • [23:05:15] <yates> i'm using YOUR experimental debian
  • [23:05:32] <rcn-ee> yeap.. udhcp/dnsmasq, is setup to give a ip address to the host (x86/etc..)
  • [23:05:48] <yates> bone-debian-7.7-console-armhf-2014-12-31-2gb.img
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  • [23:06:18] <yates> aha.
  • [23:06:43] <rcn-ee> that's the console... i had to disable g_multi to stop corruption of the only partition..
  • [23:07:08] <yates> rcn-ee: was it just the thumbdrive function that caused that?
  • [23:07:16] <yates> i'm using g_ether
  • [23:07:20] <rcn-ee> the console, also defaults to g_serial, as g_ether wasn't working properly.. compared with g_multi
  • [23:07:27] <yates> wups.
  • [23:07:31] <yates> it wasn't???
  • [23:07:41] <rcn-ee> yates, if you figure out g_ether, so it works like g_multi, i have a cookie for you..
  • [23:07:48] <yates> i've got it loading apparently ok.
  • [23:07:56] <yates> you're on, man! lol
  • [23:08:06] <ds2> rcn-ee: what problems were you having?
  • [23:08:09] <rcn-ee> it loads, but dhcp assigment on the host fails.. (doesn't show up as ethX, some random usbX)
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  • [23:08:41] <yates> this is wheezy, so should i use hdhcp?
  • [23:08:45] <yates> udhcp
  • [23:09:15] <yates> http://paste.debian.net/142593
  • [23:09:19] <rcn-ee> yeap.. udhcp.. for jessie, i have ap-hotspot installed by default which requires dnsmasq..
  • [23:09:48] <rcn-ee> btw, open /opt/scripts/boot/am335x_evm.sh
  • [23:09:48] <yates> is udhcp available as an apt package? just install it?
  • [23:10:05] <rcn-ee> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L92
  • [23:10:20] <rcn-ee> you can see, how i treied to load g_ether.. along with the error in the script..
  • [23:10:59] <yates> ok
  • [23:11:08] <rcn-ee> systemd doesn't like to applications using the same port.. (aka the dhcp port) so it's either or..
  • [23:11:09] <yates> i hacked your script to get g_ether: bone-debian-7.7-console-armhf-2014-12-31-2gb.img
  • [23:11:13] <yates> wait.
  • [23:11:16] <yates> http://paste.debian.net/142595/
  • [23:12:02] <rcn-ee> yeap, same thing.. here's how you enable udhcp: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L109
  • [23:12:03] <yates> that init.d header is new - was trying to get it to autoload under /etc/init.d
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  • [23:12:41] <rcn-ee> it's a debian thing, they added it with wheezy, to allow systemv to do parall loading..
  • [23:13:35] <yates> thanks!
  • [23:13:57] <agmlego|skynet> jamesaxl: so instead of helping is understand what you want, you link is to a 16-minute demo video of quadcopters.
  • [23:14:56] <yates> rcn-ee: but you couldn't get udhcpd to work?
  • [23:15:27] <ds2> oh the udev or equiv rules are broken
  • [23:15:40] <ds2> usbNNNN is the default name. there is ifrename that gets triggered
  • [23:16:17] <rcn-ee> yates, the host would get usbX instead of ethX, and it wouldn't get it the ip from udhcp...
  • [23:19:01] <rcn-ee> yates, one of things i was thinking about, but haven't checked.. make sure g_multi & g_ether are setup the same.. cdc or rndis... i need to verify that in the config..
  • [23:20:12] <rcn-ee> g_multi: CONFIG_USB_G_MULTI_RNDIS=y & CONFIG_USB_G_MULTI_CDC=y
  • [23:20:34] <rcn-ee> g_ether: CONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS=y & CONFIG_USB_ETH_EEM=y
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  • [23:21:21] <rcn-ee> For Linux gadgets, however, the interface with
  • [23:21:21] <rcn-ee> the host is the same (a usbX device), so the differences are minimal.
  • [23:21:40] <rcn-ee> yates, can you rebuild, disabling CONFIG_USB_ETH_EEM=y and retrying?
  • [23:22:07] <yates> rcn-ee: you mean rebuild the kernel?
  • [23:22:14] <rcn-ee> or disabing eth_eem when you load g_ether..
  • [23:22:30] <yates> i haven't been doing that - just taking your perbuilt images.
  • [23:22:55] <yates> prebuilt
  • [23:23:18] <yates> eth_eem is a kernel module?
  • [23:23:36] <yates> it's not showing in lsmod
  • [23:23:44] <rcn-ee> it's part of g_ether: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/usb/gadget/legacy/Kconfig#n142
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  • [23:24:26] <rcn-ee> If you say "y" here, the Ethernet gadget driver will use the EEM protocol rather than ECM. If unsure, say "n".
  • [23:24:51] <rcn-ee> yeap, we need to disable that.. gona run home, will have a deb in an hour or to for you to test..
  • [23:25:03] <yates> rcn-ee: thank you!
  • [23:25:21] <yates> i'll buy you a beer.
  • [23:25:36] <yates> non-flash console is what i'm using.
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