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  • [03:19:40] <RangerGeek> Evening folks. I made a booboo and i think borked by beaglebone by putting a bad line in my /etc/fstab. When i open the micro in my ubuntu box I'm seeing 1 folder 'System Volume Information'.... which is clearly wrong. :/ Any way i can recover my boot?
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  • [03:57:29] <RangerGeek> when in doubt - reflash with a new distro to play with i guess. lol
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  • [04:00:43] <karki> ;)
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  • [04:37:27] <JamesJRH> Hi. Can anyone recommend me an open hardware cape or USB device capable of tuning into (at least) FM radio broadcasting?
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  • [04:38:36] <JamesJRH> Should I go the software defined radio route such as with the HackRF One? SDR sounds cool.
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  • [04:42:05] <JamesJRH> That will also open other possibilities such as tuning into television broadcast and perhaps being an open hardware celluar data modem which sounds fun. :-D
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  • [04:42:24] <JamesJRH> So versatile. :-D
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  • [04:50:51] <JamesJRH> I know that the HackRF One is open hardware. How easy is it to set it up for FM radio reception? Is it the only open hardware SDR available?
  • [04:51:09] <JamesJRH> I've seen this: https://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/blog/2014/06/18/beaglebone-black-gnu-radio-and-hackrf-one/
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  • [05:56:08] <tbr> JamesJRH: a simple realtek based dvb-t dongle would be sufficient. I think someone has done this on a beagle before.
  • [05:56:26] <tbr> those can be used as wide band sdr
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  • [06:50:46] <JamesJRH> tbr: Are they open hardware? I'm only interested in supporting open hardware.
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  • [07:01:29] <tbr> JamesJRH: not sure if there are designs around the RTL chip that are OSHW
  • [07:01:43] <tbr> JamesJRH: that would be an exercise for you to find one
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  • [07:02:42] <JamesJRH> What does RTL stand for? RealTek something?
  • [07:03:04] <JamesJRH> What is HackRF based on?
  • [07:03:24] <JamesJRH> s/HackRF/the HackRF One/
  • [07:04:04] <kiran4399> Hello can anybody direct me to Victor Mayarolov or Siddarth Barath purohit ??
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  • [07:06:37] <tbr> JamesJRH: rtl-2832u is the chip
  • [07:07:36] <JamesJRH> The chip for the HackRF One?
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  • [07:08:18] <tbr> no the chip that I mentioned earlier
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  • [07:12:58] <JamesJRH> I'm not sure what the L stands for.
  • [07:14:38] <Humpelst1lzchen> thr rtl chip only costs 15 euro ;)
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  • [07:27:01] <JamesJRH> It appears that the HackRF One isn't based on a Realtek chipset: https://github.com/mossmann/hackrf/wiki/Hardware-Components
  • [07:27:18] <JamesJRH> This looks interesting: http://openhpsdr.org/
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  • [07:35:58] <JamesJRH> I didn't say you did. I'm just exploring. I'm not familiar with SDR.
  • [07:36:48] <JamesJRH> Aah, GPL-like hardware licences: http://tapr.org/ohl.html
  • [07:37:38] <JamesJRH> This is a great find; I will probably use these for my own designs.
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  • [16:06:51] <DiegoTc> hi av500, do you know if JKrinder has plans for the GSOC 2015 this year?
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  • [16:07:19] <Rotti> hi
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  • [16:11:21] <av500> DiegoTc: yes, he has
  • [16:12:18] <DiegoTc> av500: I will like to help as a mentor, well if jkrinder thinks I will be good help
  • [16:12:28] <DiegoTc> should talk with him then
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  • [16:16:21] <av500> DiegoTc: thx for the offer to help
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  • [16:18:12] <DiegoTc> do you know if there is page idea for the gsoc 2015?
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  • [16:20:05] <av500> DiegoTc: I dont think there is one yet
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  • [17:45:10] <ocamlman> Hello everyone - I'm having some trouble using GPIO from the PRU. I am using the BB-BONE-PRU-01 which uses p9_27 -- the code TODO:\n QBBS TODO, r31, 5 does not loop infinitely as I expect, whether p9_27 is attached to 3.3v or gnd
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  • [18:48:13] <Abhishek_> hi jkridner
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  • [18:54:25] <Humpelst1lzchen> Any recommendation for a fs to store the logs on an otherwise ro filesystem? Of course it should survive powerfailures...
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  • [19:18:34] <_av500_> Humpelst1lzchen: log partition
  • [19:18:44] <_av500_> or cloud
  • [19:19:18] <Humpelst1lzchen> network failures is what I want to log ;)
  • [19:19:30] <_av500_> dot matrix printer?
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  • [19:19:39] <_av500_> 2nd BBB
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  • [19:20:22] <Humpelst1lzchen> thought about it, but usbstick with a log partition sounded cheaper ;)
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  • [19:23:14] <ocamlman> This GPIO/PRU issue is driving me crazy :p
  • [19:23:23] <ocamlman> because I'm sure its a silly oversight
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  • [22:34:06] <paul175> hi, does anyone know if the U-Boot source code at https://github.com/beagleboard/u-boot/tree/bone-bringup is the correct U-Boot code that is shipped on the board?
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  • [22:45:15] <thurgood_> black or white?
  • [22:45:38] <thurgood_> based on the date it looks like what was probably shipped with the white
  • [22:46:43] <thurgood_> I /think/ you'll be better off looking at the denx version
  • [22:47:22] <rcn-ee> paul175, that's way old.. use u-boot's git tree, you'll fine a patch under: /opt/source/
  • [22:54:28] <paul175> oh this is for black
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  • [23:01:02] <ds2> why can't we as the beagle community get our act together and stop depending on specifics in u-boot?! it is a bootloader and that's all it is.
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  • [23:02:26] <rcn-ee> based on his info, he's probally building something and just needs the full source for certifcation..
  • [23:03:13] <ds2> it is not just him...see too many problems being resolve with "gosh, that U-boot is too old". it is just a boot loader
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  • [23:03:32] <ds2> if a kernel gets into memory, that's it. its job is done. no more
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  • [23:03:41] <thurgood_> I've built stuff based on the xM that required u-boot modification... it happens
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  • [23:03:50] <ds2> fix the kernel
  • [23:03:59] <ds2> there is absolutely no reason for that other then a broken kernel.
  • [23:04:03] <rcn-ee> ds2, except with v2015.01, we can mount the eMMC over usb.. ;) so you don't even need a microSD card anymore. ;)
  • [23:04:22] <thurgood_> the memory size and initial timings had to be set properly in uboot
  • [23:04:28] <ds2> i.e. gigE on most newer u-boot for am335x is broken cuz of that very reason.
  • [23:04:29] <paul175> well, I'm having a problem with getting the kernel to load where it gets an unrecognized machine ID
  • [23:04:46] <ds2> thurgood_: that falls into - bootloader getting things into memory.
  • [23:05:02] <ds2> paul175: that by defnition is a kernel problem.
  • [23:05:02] <rcn-ee> paul175, in which case, your aren't loading the dtb.. your trying to load a 'board' file on a 'device tree' kernel..
  • [23:05:18] <ds2> the bootloader should provide a proper and unique (per hw) machine ID
  • [23:05:31] <ds2> duplicating it for derivative works is wrong.
  • [23:05:37] <rcn-ee> unless the kernel guys deleted it.. aka board files..
  • [23:05:55] <ds2> that is a kernel problem
  • [23:05:56] <rcn-ee> and the user didn't enable append dtb config option, in which case, they need to laod the dtb binary..
  • [23:06:20] <ds2> u-boot should be something that is romable
  • [23:06:40] <rcn-ee> it's like systemd... u-boot keeps growing..
  • [23:06:54] <paul175> is append dtb config option a u-boot or kernel option?
  • [23:06:59] <ds2> that's a userland problem ;)
  • [23:07:03] <rcn-ee> kernel option.
  • [23:08:12] <paul175> so if I have a dtb binary on my card, I don't use that option, I think that is where I'm at now
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  • [23:14:27] <rcn-ee> paul175, if you have the dtb, just use it, load it after the zImage and then use bootz to boot it: bootz 0x82000000 - 0x88000000
  • [23:14:39] <rcn-ee> or just use the bootm/uImage instead of bootz/zImage...
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  • [23:15:06] <paul175> the bootz thing is what I'm trying to do now and I get some error about the machine ID
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> Starting kernel ...
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05).
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> Available machine support:
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> ID (hex) NAME
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> ffffffff Generic DT based system
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> ffffffff Generic DRA72X (Flattened Device Tree)
  • [23:15:19] <paul175> ffffffff Generic DRA74X (Flattened Device Tree)
  • [23:15:20] <paul175> ffffffff Generic AM43 (Flattened Device Tree)
  • [23:15:21] <paul175> ffffffff Generic OMAP5 (Flattened Device Tree)
  • [23:15:21] <paul175> ffffffff Generic AM33XX (Flattened Device Tree)
  • [23:15:21] <paul175> Please check your kernel config and/or bootloader.
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  • [23:15:49] <rcn-ee> yeap... you just did: "bootz kernel_addr".. you need "bootz kernel_addr - ftd_addr"...
  • [23:15:57] <rcn-ee> ftd/dtb....
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  • [23:19:31] <veremit> so you load kernel dtbs in uboot too, yes?
  • [23:19:54] <veremit> rings a bell...
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  • [23:21:27] <paul175> yeah I have the address for the dtb in there, I think the address may have been incorrect though, checking
  • [23:21:54] <veremit> it should match the previous lines in your boot script/config :p
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  • [23:27:00] <paul175> I had the device tree in memory lower than the kernel, not sure if that matters
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  • [23:27:36] <veremit> as long as neither overwrites :p
  • [23:27:57] <paul175> changed it around and now I don't get any error message but it doesn't start, just freezes on starting kernel...
  • [23:28:02] <veremit> but check the syntax of the bootm in case it makes some assumption
  • [23:28:14] <veremit> well thats different
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  • [23:33:00] <ds2> sure the kernel isn't being relocated on top of your DT?
  • [23:33:33] <ds2> mostly OT question - buy a robot mechanical platform or build one from scratch?
  • [23:33:49] <veremit> build it ofc :P
  • [23:34:25] <veremit> unless you just wanna use it .. then buy one :p
  • [23:34:33] <ds2> the real debate is - recurse into yet another project or not
  • [23:34:44] <ds2> it'd be a motion platform to experiment with some algs
  • [23:35:04] <ds2> vision algs are more interesting when it does something physical with it
  • [23:40:04] <paul175> thanks for your help
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  • [23:40:35] <veremit> nailed it?
  • [23:40:51] <paul175> no, just taking a break
  • [23:41:08] <veremit> ok :)
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