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  • [00:20:06] <Laurenceb> is it possible to use the ADC on newer than 3.8.x kernels?
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  • [02:55:20] <sudo> bonsoir everyone
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  • [02:57:48] <bonsoir> what is stopping me from running raspian programs on beaglebone black?
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  • [05:19:09] <tbr> bonsoir: the fact that raspbian is for a computer architecture from the last millenium
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  • [05:29:42] <veremit`afk> bonsoir.. if it runs on the r-pi its highly likely to runo n the beagle also
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  • [05:34:36] <tbr> veremit`afk: the same binary?
  • [05:35:29] <veremit`afk> I would doubt the same binary would work because of library incompatabilities .. but you can compile the source :) or run python/etc same as.
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  • [05:40:23] <tbr> ok, because that was the point of my statement. admittedly I took the guess that by "running raspbian programs" the person meant installing their .deb packages
  • [05:41:07] <veremit`afk> both platforms run variants of debian
  • [05:41:16] <veremit`afk> iirc the same variant in fact
  • [05:41:25] <tbr> yes, but one is compiled for armv6
  • [05:41:29] <veremit`afk> so if you just compile with the appropriate tools .. any binary will work
  • [05:41:45] <veremit`afk> sorry .. any source will work ;p
  • [05:42:25] <veremit`afk> I thought both were running armhf version of debian .. unless I Was mistaken .. or confused my arm platforms... :)
  • [05:42:59] <tbr> of course you could have the 'done' 3.8 kernel and a armv6 userspace (aka raspbian). if you are into that kind of stuff. lose all cortex/armv7 benefits ofc.
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  • [05:46:01] <veremit`afk> well .. you obviously can't run windows on a beagle or a pi .. but otherwise .. both platforms run linux .. so ..
  • [05:46:42] <tbr> I'd be surprised if the BBB debian would be armv6hf. from what I see it uses official debian repositories and those are armv7hf
  • [05:48:00] <veremit`afk> my point is .. you can build apps for the Pi or the Beagle .. or the imx6 or arm5 or whatever variant you like .. the Process is the same.
  • [05:48:22] <tbr> we agree on that. my _sole_ point is binary compatibility.
  • [05:48:37] <veremit`afk> well .. you don't expect to run x86 code on an arm, do you?
  • [05:48:37] <tbr> because: hardware runs software, film at 11.
  • [05:49:31] <veremit`afk> maybe you do .. but the answer is No. :)
  • [05:50:04] <veremit`afk> anyhoo .. I need to sleep .. bbl :p
  • [05:50:10] * tbr shrugs
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  • [06:38:49] <jmumby> helo
  • [06:39:25] <jmumby> installe
  • [06:39:54] <tbr> moo
  • [06:40:12] <jmumby> installed ubuntu 12.04 on bbb but ubuntu user name and password do not allow me to add a printer
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  • [06:58:26] <tbr> jmumby: mhm, you might need to add the user to some group and then restart cups
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  • [07:35:20] <jmumby> ok will try
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  • [09:14:30] <nomis> hi all. I am currently looking at the prussdrv infrastructure. Can someone explain to me what the (newer) 2nd parameter to prussdrv_pru_clear_event() is supposed to mean?
  • [09:14:35] <nomis> I am not sure what it means if both pru0 and pru1 send a PRU_EVTOUT_0
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  • [10:36:49] <felixlee> hi all
  • [10:37:13] <felixlee> can someone build MT7601U USB wifi netcard in BeagleBone ?
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  • [10:38:06] <woglinde> 4
  • [10:39:08] <av500> 5
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  • [11:39:55] <tbr> 26
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  • [12:30:10] <Peanut> Howdy. Is there a kernel command line option to tell the (Debian) kernel to a) not use the built-in RTC, and b) use an external I2C as rtc0 right at boot?
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  • [13:54:46] <av500> Peanut: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/13/500
  • [13:54:57] <av500> apparently the kernel people did not like it
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  • [14:20:22] <Peanut> av500: thanks
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  • [14:24:51] <mdp> all problems may be solved in an initrd
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  • [15:07:00] <yegorich> Is there any more or less cheap board/device with Wi-Link 8 hadrware?
  • [15:07:20] <yegorich> I've seen BB cape announcement, but it is still in pre-order state
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  • [15:09:42] <av500> yegorich: does it have to be wilink8?
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  • [15:16:02] <yegorich> av500: I want to test the chip
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  • [15:19:03] <av500> isnt that TIs job?
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  • [15:20:34] <KotH> av500: never trust a chip that mdp could have worked on
  • [15:21:21] <mdp> KotH: "there are many TIs"
  • [15:21:37] <KotH> mdp: nobody knows in how many TIs you have worked at
  • [15:21:45] <KotH> mdp: i'm pretty sure you dont know either
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  • [15:30:12] <mdp> yegorich: who is making that cape?
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  • [15:38:17] <yegorich> mdp: http://boardzoo.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/146/category/8#.VFehSvnF98E
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  • [15:38:48] <yegorich> If I'm going to have such a chip in my design, I want to play with it
  • [15:38:57] <yegorich> Just to get feeling.
  • [15:39:19] <yegorich> And also test mainline driver support
  • [15:40:00] <mdp> wow, I skimmed the length wiki page on getting it working with BBB
  • [15:40:02] <mdp> just wow
  • [15:40:07] <yegorich> Devs from http://wizery.com/ seem to play a lot with this driver
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  • [15:40:17] <av500> now, who is DJA?
  • [15:40:28] <mdp> I stuck an ar6003 sd31 ref board in my BBB and it "just works" with mainline
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  • [15:41:36] <yegorich> mdp: isn't this board Atheros based?
  • [15:41:45] <yegorich> Or what board do you mean?
  • [15:42:18] <mdp> wilink8 is a ti part
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  • [15:43:28] <mdp> I suppose some integration nightmare is in order as you need to do the DT update dance for a wilink part to work on BBB
  • [15:43:51] <mdp> versus a pure sdio reference borad with in-band irqs
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  • [15:45:28] <yegorich> the nightmare is with with the older generation wl127x
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  • [15:45:41] <yegorich> as it is EOL
  • [15:45:59] <mdp> I'll bet
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  • [15:46:26] <mdp> it was a nightmare when we were all DT converted on am335x and wl12xx wasn't converted
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  • [15:46:54] <yegorich> AFAIK it is still not converted
  • [15:47:31] <mdp> heh
  • [15:47:55] <yegorich> arch/arm/mach-omap2/pdata-quirks.c is still there
  • [15:48:05] <mdp> I was actually testing edma on da8xx for that reason many moons ago
  • [15:48:32] <mdp> because I could run wl12xx via board files / pdata in that machine
  • [15:49:23] <yegorich> The problem is, that this stuff is still not in mainline kernel: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2014-May/258717.html
  • [15:49:45] <yegorich> at least SDIO stuff is discussed for a long time, how to init it in generic way
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  • [15:50:22] <yegorich> as soon as this is upstreamed, wl stuff can be fully supported by DT
  • [15:51:15] <yegorich> I have am335x-evmsk and I'm running recent kernels with DT on it, but some parts are still in arch/arm/mach-omap2/pdata-quirks.c
  • [15:51:19] <av500> mainline is for hobbyists
  • [15:51:47] <yegorich> @av500: :-)
  • [15:52:35] <yegorich> You mean it is Utopia? :-)
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  • [15:54:57] <tbr> I think I should start looking for one of those atheros SDIO things, just to add it to my device menagerie
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  • [15:55:45] <mdp> yegorich: ojn's thread opened up a huge can of worms
  • [15:55:58] <yegorich> mdp: yes
  • [15:56:14] <mdp> no surprise it stalled, it went into at least 5 different unfinished areas
  • [15:56:27] <mdp> as is typical for core driver subsystem changes
  • [15:56:32] <mdp> related to DT
  • [15:56:54] <yegorich> mdp: any news on this subject?
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  • [15:57:05] <mdp> tomasz has a good point about it not being an mmc-only problem..since most parts now do multiple front-ends
  • [15:57:31] <mdp> I know the part we're using on our phone also does HSIC..but we couldn't use that because the vendor driver only does sdio properly
  • [15:57:33] <tbr> I do have a point?
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  • [15:58:12] <tbr> (Tomasz hilights, as it's one common way to write my first name)
  • [15:58:16] <mdp> tbr, the ar6003 sd31 ref board? they are insanely expensive. but work in mainline
  • [15:58:23] <mdp> tbr, ;)
  • [15:58:27] <mdp> sorry
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  • [15:58:40] <tbr> mdp: ah, so no generic cheap part available with that?
  • [15:58:49] <tbr> mdp: no worries, it was just funny
  • [16:00:07] <yegorich> mdp: another can of warms seems to be "Common Display Framework" :-)
  • [16:00:23] <yegorich> haven't seen any patches for a long time
  • [16:00:58] <mdp> tbr, afaik, no. I know of no well-supported self-contained SDIO wifi that are inexpensive. doesn't mean there aren't any. I think this atheros unit was in the $800 range.
  • [16:01:55] <mdp> tbr, there should never be an inexpensive one made now because there's no consumer market for them like there was for a while back when PDAs with sdio slots were popular
  • [16:02:10] <mdp> the only thing now is reference boards from the silicon vendors
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  • [16:06:59] <mdp> https://plus.google.com/u/0/108244279740379322507/posts/2bBNm8AdmKM?pid=6077510713774900098&oid=108244279740379322507
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  • [16:11:48] <johnwalkr> having a ton of trouble trying to enable an i2c bus on debian
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  • [16:13:33] <KotH> mdp, tbr: there are modules based on marvell chips that are quite cheap (~50EUR @1) with an SDIO interface, but not in the SDIO formfactor
  • [16:14:04] <mdp> KotH: supported upstream?
  • [16:14:22] <mdp> I have a $15 libertas sdio card that doesn't work already
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  • [16:14:53] <mdp> this may be news to everybody, but the hardware is unimportant, the software is *everything*
  • [16:15:00] <tbr> kekeke
  • [16:15:12] <KotH> mdp: linux upstream? yes, kernel drivers were working great with 3.x for x <4 or so
  • [16:15:19] <johnwalkr> i found where it was disabled in am335x-bone.dts and am335x-boneblack.dts. changed to enabled (status = "okay"), recompiled and rebooted. got some new errors in dmesg but still can;t see that i2c bus
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  • [16:15:47] <mdp> KotH: which part?
  • [16:15:58] <KotH> mdp: had it running on a x86 laptop (with adapter pcb) and on a home-grown i.mx23 based system
  • [16:15:59] <mdp> KotH: I may need to get some for others on my project
  • [16:16:01] <johnwalkr> is anyone good with device tree or have experience getting all 3 i2c buses usable?
  • [16:18:02] <mdp> KotH: I just had this one in the "junk box" from a previous life so I used it for some feature I needed to start..but it's not practical for others to leverage.
  • [16:18:06] <KotH> mdp: hmm.. we used a 88W8688 based moudul from www.tekmodul.de, but apparently that particular modul disapeared from their list. there are other 8688 based modules though
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  • [16:19:04] <mdp> tbr, found it..it was $495, we only paid that because we were needing to do pre-silicon devel for a design win: https://www.cardaccess-inc.com/services/products/index.php?a=details&i=CA-SD31
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  • [16:20:16] <KotH> mdp: if you need more info to said modul/design, invite me to some hot chocolate
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  • [16:21:33] <mdp> KotH: at FOSDEM? ;)
  • [16:21:44] <KotH> mdp: i dont drink belgian chocolate
  • [16:21:48] <KotH> mdp: it's awfull
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  • [16:21:54] <KotH> mdp: german hot chocolate is acceptable
  • [16:21:57] <mdp> hehe
  • [16:25:15] <johnwalkr> is there a way to search the logs at http://beagleboard.org/static/irclog/
  • [16:25:24] <av500> CTRL-F?
  • [16:28:48] <johnwalkr> i tried using the site: operator in google but no results, but now I see it works at the other log location (logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/beagle/)
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  • [16:53:02] <johnwalkr_> for the other 2 buses, there is a "probe deferral" then they init. for the third bus (4802a000), there are multiple "probe deferral"s
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  • [17:44:14] <DiegoTc> jkridner: did you register beagleboard.org at GCI?
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  • [18:05:30] <jkridner> DiegoTc: yes.
  • [18:05:41] <jkridner> please help with updates to http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GCI/Ideas following the program guidelines.
  • [18:05:51] <jkridner> bone101 tasks would be great additions.
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  • [18:35:53] <DiegoTc> jkridner: the wiki is empty, do you have a link for the program guidelines?
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  • [18:37:26] <jkridner> if it was easy, I'd have already done it.
  • [18:38:26] <jkridner> DiegoTc: it would be great if bugs were filed against the repos at http://github.com/beagleboard and many of the tasks were closing those bugs.
  • [18:39:09] <jkridner> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/resources/example-tasks has a nice set of examples.
  • [18:39:57] <jkridner> https://www.drupal.org/node/983956 is helpful
  • [18:42:29] <DiegoTc> jkridner: OK! I will worked taking GSOC page idea welcome, what is GCI and then add the task
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  • [18:47:26] <jkridner> k, but remember the tasks should be much simpler, such as individual tutorials or bug fixes.
  • [18:47:52] <DiegoTc> jkridner: is beagleboard going to send boards?
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  • [18:48:38] <DiegoTc> planning to put task, Video Tutorial: update the OS Image
  • [18:48:46] <DiegoTc> and without board that's not possible
  • [18:48:50] <Abhishek_> jkridner: I've updated the Wiki page
  • [18:48:55] <jkridner> DiegoTc: for this, the students would be expected to buy a board on their own. :(
  • [18:48:55] <Abhishek_> Hey DiegoTc
  • [18:48:58] <jkridner> hi Abhishek_!
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  • [18:49:08] <jkridner> Abhishek_: DiegoTc is also looking to help out...
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  • [18:49:23] <jkridner> both, please register on http://www.google-melange.com as mentors.
  • [18:50:09] <DiegoTc> Hi Abhishek_ !!!
  • [18:50:20] <DiegoTc> You click publish first on the wiki
  • [18:50:48] <Abhishek_> I did, yes
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  • [18:51:24] <jkridner> DiegoTc, Abhishek_: I think we should avoid having cross compiling be a prerequisite, especially for students wanting to tackle Python/JavaScript.
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  • [18:52:00] <jkridner> I think doing IoT related write-ups would be helpful... improvements to the elinux wiki would be especially welcome.
  • [18:52:22] <Abhishek_> agreed, cross compiling may be a prerequisite for the C related tasks...
  • [18:52:23] <jkridner> we could enumerate tasks of various pages/sections that need updating.
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  • [18:53:04] <DiegoTc> jkridner: translating the website to spanish is OK to have it as task?
  • [18:53:07] <DiegoTc> of course by pages
  • [18:53:22] <jkridner> even for adding kernel modules, you might be able to submit a patch by only building natively... though a full kernel rebuild would be desired and would typically require cross-compilation.
  • [18:53:23] <DiegoTc> that will be several task
  • [18:53:39] <jkridner> DiegoTc: I think so, but we need to establish some infrastructure for that...
  • [18:53:53] <jkridner> there's a bit of infrastructure for it now, but never fully implemented.
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  • [18:54:17] <jkridner> I wouldn't want to limit to Spanish, but it depends on languages for which we have mentors.
  • [18:54:25] <DiegoTc> well, I will make a action plan on that and you tell me if it's OK
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  • [18:58:26] <Abhishek_> jkridner: I've begun designing and will be releasing the official BeagleLogic cape next month.
  • [18:58:26] <DiegoTc> jkridner: I only see the option of register as an Organization Admin
  • [18:58:30] <DiegoTc> is that oK?
  • [18:58:38] <Abhishek_> DiegoTc: yes, that one
  • [18:58:55] <jkridner> DiegoTc: no mentor option?
  • [18:59:01] <DiegoTc> no
  • [18:59:19] <Abhishek_> it gives a Mentor Agreement when you click on the org admin thing
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  • [19:00:52] <dubito> Hi! I'm working on an all digital audio output stage for the beagle xm (rev B). The circuit should be based on the STA326 DDX output stage. This chip accepts I2S signals only in slave mode. It's clear to me how to get BCLK,WCLK and SDI from either McBSP2 through the audio expansion header or from McBSP1/3 from the main expansion header. The point where I'm lost is, where to get a suitable master clock (MCLK) for STA326 to stay in sync with the beagle. Is
  • [19:00:53] <dubito> there some usable clock exposed through the expansion headers on the beagle xm?
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  • [19:05:32] <jkridner> dubito: I tried looking at the Zippy2 schematic I found from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/SPI, but I don't see MCLK there.
  • [19:05:55] <vvu> DiegoTc: jkridner added my 0.2$ there :)
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  • [19:06:24] <jkridner> it has been a while since I thought about it... seems to me there was a reasonable clock somewhere for MCLK, not just SCLK.
  • [19:06:59] <DiegoTc> How like that vvu?
  • [19:07:03] <jkridner> thanks vvu. would really appreciate a handful of tasks in the suitable format.
  • [19:07:22] <jkridner> the Drupal requirements for task descriptions look pretty reasonable.
  • [19:07:22] <vvu> will give some thinking on easy tasks they can do on my things :)
  • [19:08:43] <dubito> jkridner: so you are suggesting to use one of the McSPI ports to generate MCLK for I2S?
  • [19:08:48] <jkridner> Some suggestions at the GSoC reunion included providing a few "startup" tasks everyone should do. Creating a github account and some kind of blinky-LED bonecard fork (a gist, possibly with some HTML/JavaScript, etc.) seems kinda reasonable to me.
  • [19:09:06] <jkridner> Hopefully DiegoTc can provide some first tasks for us.
  • [19:09:50] <jkridner> dubito: no, I don't think the McSPI provides an MCLK itself, but I think there is a CLKOUT from which SCLK can be derived on the McSPI.
  • [19:10:19] <jkridner> you could always have an external MCLK and make the McSPI be a slave to it.
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  • [19:14:54] <jkridner> dubito: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/beagleboard/mclk$20spi/beagleboard/WDsKoR9m_Ow/oIaxU9DGLfIJ doesn't seem to give enough info either. :(
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  • [19:16:40] <Abhishek_> jkridner: Beginner tasks based on PyBBIO, BoneScript and Documentation, Intermediate involving some userspace C stuff and Higher levels including Kernel and the PRU
  • [19:16:53] <dubito> jkridner: yeah, I've seen this post before, but I didn't really get how exactly they did it
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  • [19:17:32] <jkridner> dubito: did you e-mail Seppo?
  • [19:18:10] <dubito> no, never considered this
  • [19:18:11] <_av500_> jkridner: you want to do gci?
  • [19:18:20] <jkridner> _av500_: yup.
  • [19:18:24] <dubito> also the post is already 4 years old
  • [19:18:33] <_av500_> jkridner: you know what you are up against? :)
  • [19:18:39] <jkridner> dubito: indeed. many -xm posts are that old.
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  • [19:18:55] <jkridner> dubito: http://www.brianhensley.net/2012/02/spi-working-on-beagleboard-xm-rev-c.html doesn't say where to get a suitable MCLK either.
  • [19:19:18] <jkridner> _av500_: probably not. folks at the reunion encouraged me.
  • [19:19:41] <_av500_> jkridner: I spoke with the rtems guys a lot
  • [19:19:44] <_av500_> about it
  • [19:19:55] <_av500_> and I whitnessed it woth ffmpeg some years back
  • [19:20:17] * vvu +1s that
  • [19:23:25] <jkridner> onslaught?
  • [19:23:36] <_av500_> yes
  • [19:23:51] <jkridner> trying to get to another degree of usability. going to fight through it.
  • [19:23:59] <_av500_> you might have students 24/7 nagging you to ack their tasks
  • [19:24:23] <jkridner> yeah.... and drowning #beagle. :(
  • [19:24:23] <_av500_> jkridner: we would need an all timezone mod team
  • [19:24:34] <_av500_> jkridner: we can have a special channel
  • [19:24:38] <_av500_> thats not the issue
  • [19:24:41] <Abhishek_> #beagle-gci
  • [19:25:02] <_av500_> as said, that part is easy
  • [19:25:11] <_av500_> refilling the tasks all the time is the hard part
  • [19:25:30] <_av500_> rtems had CSV files autouploaded to melange because hand edit proved undoable
  • [19:25:35] <_av500_> etc
  • [19:25:50] <Abhishek_> yep, I just saw last year RTEMS tasks, they had some 265-odd tasks
  • [19:26:11] <DiegoTc> _av500_: jkridner told me students will need to buy a BBB for task related to HD, that will stop many noisy students
  • [19:26:22] <_av500_> HD?
  • [19:26:23] <DiegoTc> if you're really interested you will ge ti t
  • [19:26:32] <DiegoTc> HD=hardware
  • [19:26:38] <Abhishek_> HW
  • [19:26:44] <_av500_> ah
  • [19:26:53] <jkridner> yeah, we can't afford H/W for all GCI students. They will need to buy on their own.
  • [19:27:01] <DiegoTc> ups, my mistake thanks Abhishek_
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  • [19:27:32] <DiegoTc> _av500_: so I see it that if you want to do a task for BeagleBoard, you will think it two times
  • [19:27:38] <jkridner> If DiegoTc can't come up with 101 bone101 tasks, we are all screwed. ;-)
  • [19:28:05] <jkridner> page translation will be cool, but I don't know we'll be ready for that by 12/1.
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  • [19:29:36] <DiegoTc> jkridner: I don't your plan for that, still with jekyll
  • [19:29:45] <LetoThe2nd> ummm is it that time of the year again?
  • [19:30:01] <jkridner> LetoThe2nd: GCI, not GSoC
  • [19:30:20] <LetoThe2nd> jkridner: the kids version, IIRC?
  • [19:30:27] * Abhishek_ knows that GCI is going to be more noisy than GSoC
  • [19:30:28] <vvu> yep, the kiddie one
  • [19:30:45] <dubito> jkridner: Since all McBSP ports are derived from the same clock, it might be possible to abuse one the non-used McBSPs SCKL as a MCLK
  • [19:31:11] <dubito> do you know wheather that can be clocked that high?
  • [19:31:29] <DiegoTc> vvu: the small "hackers"
  • [19:31:50] <Abhishek_> "hackerlets"
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  • [19:32:13] <DiegoTc> Abhishek_: well many will get scared with the prereq: Participating Students are expected to be able to sucessfully cross compile a C program.
  • [19:32:37] <LetoThe2nd> DiegoTc: hard bummer, yes.
  • [19:32:59] <Abhishek_> well, at least compile a C program. Cross-compiling would be just arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc instead of gcc
  • [19:33:13] <Abhishek_> and they can always compile on the BBB itself
  • [19:33:15] <LetoThe2nd> jkridner: btw, do you remember t.amberg of yaler? he said he met you in rome
  • [19:34:05] <jkridner> DiegoTc: You'll notice all pages have an element called 'lang': https://github.com/beagleboard/beagleboard-org/blob/master/code/Page/page.js
  • [19:34:09] <jkridner> LetoThe2nd: yes!
  • [19:34:18] <jkridner> met him at the cafe.
  • [19:34:41] <LetoThe2nd> jkridner: nice, he was at our office today as we're investigating their service
  • [19:34:44] <jkridner> I was pleased to meet the author of yaler as I've used yalertunnel in the past.
  • [19:35:24] <DiegoTc> jkridner: yes
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  • [19:45:01] <Abhishek_> I made some edits to the prerequisites to make it more clear.
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  • [19:48:21] <_av500_> jkridner: not completeley against GCI
  • [19:50:07] <DiegoTc> We should do a documentation for the GSOC students. I remember at the begging of the year many emails asking how to do the cross compile example. A small documentation how to do that. It should be on Elinux or bone101, what do you think? Abhishek_ , vvu , jkridner
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  • [19:50:47] <DiegoTc> that way jkridner doesn't need to refer to old emails answering the same question
  • [19:50:50] <Abhishek_> DiegoTc: looks like a chicken-and-egg problem.
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  • [19:51:25] <Abhishek_> as in, participating students expect to find tutorials on cross-compilation and them ending up writing the very same thing
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  • [19:51:33] <vvu> DiegoTc: we all should use the one that Robert is using to compile the kernel
  • [19:51:41] <vvu> the linaro CC think so
  • [19:52:26] <DiegoTc> vvu: which one?
  • [19:52:35] <Abhishek_> I guess good advantage should be taken of this opportunity to generate documentation for the community.
  • [19:53:03] <vvu> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-ARMCrossCompiler:GCC DiegoTc
  • [19:53:53] <Abhishek_> should be added to the wiki
  • [19:54:38] <DiegoTc> vvu: we have our first task!!
  • [19:55:32] <DiegoTc> we can even have two, a small video showing how to do it, will be the second task
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  • [19:57:11] <Abhishek_> a point to be noted is that in GCI, two winners have to be named to visit Google HQ, so the highest level tasks should be of a good level and not just documentation
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  • [20:00:28] <DiegoTc> vvu: are you going to add that as a task?
  • [20:00:48] <vvu> not now
  • [20:00:57] <vvu> i will take a look when i have some free time to hack on this page
  • [20:01:14] <Abhishek_> yup, I got to go now too
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  • [21:02:04] <kiwichris> Beagleboard support has been committed to RTEMS
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  • [21:02:14] <_av500_> hey kiwichris
  • [21:02:24] <kiwichris> _av500_, hi
  • [21:03:16] <_av500_> made it back? :)
  • [21:04:01] <kiwichris> Yeah and I seemed to have picked up a cold ... blah
  • [21:04:10] <_av500_> the usual
  • [21:04:16] <_av500_> I came with a cold, left it there
  • [21:04:28] <_av500_> so balance in the universe has been restored
  • [21:04:55] <kiwichris> I spent the weekend with someone from SF so it might be on the way back
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  • [21:06:13] <kiwichris> We should have an easy way to get RTEMS tools plus the various bits built for the Beagleboards soon. The support is now in the kernel.
  • [21:08:19] <_av500_> nice
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  • [21:10:35] <kenrestivo> i'm curious about this "use the power button" business on the beaglebone black. why is that an issue? what's broken?
  • [21:11:43] <_av500_> ?
  • [21:12:55] <kenrestivo> in the box that a BBB ships with, there's a little caution sticker.
  • [21:13:23] <kenrestivo> i don't remember it being there the last time i bought a BBB (ovr a year ago?). i'm wondering what is broken, why can't you just cut power to the thing? why is the power button required?
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  • [21:33:05] <adj> would it be just something for those who do not realize what cutting the power before sync might do to the filesystem?
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  • [21:33:35] <adj> apt-get upgrade, cut power, bone "bricked" --> rma?
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  • [21:44:00] <therob_> So I bricked my beagleboard black
  • [21:44:15] <therob_> 2 days in, and I wanted the latest image
  • [21:44:30] <therob_> followed the instructions exactly
  • [21:44:50] <therob_> not only did it not update, it also ruined an 32Gb SD card
  • [21:44:57] <therob_> or so I think
  • [21:45:20] <therob_> anyone with similar issues
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  • [21:48:25] <ds2> you cannot brick it in SW.
  • [21:49:22] <therob_> can't get it DHCP, thus no SSH
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  • [21:53:32] <mkad_> therob_, you should be able to boot from uSD card
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  • [21:54:26] <mkad_> therob_, make uSD flasher image, insert card, press uSD button, power it on
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  • [21:55:48] <mkad_> therob_, also if you think its bricket you could give it away for free for example send it to someone like me;)
  • [21:56:14] <mkad_> he left ^^
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  • [22:23:47] <kenrestivo> makes sense, maybe that's just a CYA for legal purposes or something.
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  • [22:25:20] <kenrestivo> though, i see all kinds of notices in the new manual about not powering any pins until SYS_RESET is high
  • [22:26:10] <kenrestivo> maybe people are just stabbing it with voltages and not making proper capes
  • [22:26:51] <kenrestivo> this is such a well-engineered product, especially compared to... the, uh, other very popular ARM-based board everyone has insisted i use for them for a year
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  • [22:32:14] <mkad_> ^^
  • [22:32:23] <mkad_> kenrestivo, you mean RPee ?
  • [22:32:24] <mkad_> :D
  • [22:33:16] <kenrestivo> i ain't sayin nothin. just... after losing an hour of work due to sd card getting corrupted because i dared to plug in a usb wifi dongle... i now do anything important on them via nfsroot
  • [22:33:59] <kenrestivo> and i'm happy to be playing around with a BBB again
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  • [22:38:55] <nomis> I am not sure what it means if both pru0 and pru1 send a PRU_EVTOUT_0
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  • [23:58:37] <M23> Hi Guys, I am looking for some examples of how to activate multiple UARTs/CAN/GPIOS in the same device tree overlay, does anyone know of any examples?
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