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  • [00:17:24] <rick01> thanks guys. I don't need video, just still images. A raw matrix of pixel-bytes is what i need in the end for image processing. Which small cameras are most suited to this?
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  • [01:02:23] <yates> rick01: that's kinda hard to answer without knowing your requirements. like saying, "which PC is best suited to computing?"
  • [01:03:06] <yates> you might try searching for "usb still camera"
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  • [01:43:10] <m_billybob> rick01, then your choces are broader
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  • [01:43:42] <m_billybob> you'll have to look around on the web for "beaglebone black + camera"
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  • [02:01:04] <rick01> hey m_billybob ... i already tried searching for "beaglebone black + camera". radiumboard is all i can find.
  • [02:01:40] <rick01> i'm new to BBB so i just want to know is it easy to use any small camera with BBB?
  • [02:02:46] <rick01> oh yes, i also found the logitech camera (too big for me) but that is all
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  • [02:05:09] <m_billybob> rick01, i found an aritcle a week or so ago that talked abotu two camera's by search beaglebone black +<somekeyword> dont rememebr what it was
  • [02:05:25] <m_billybob> second option the guy gave had no decode but should do stills just fine
  • [02:06:01] <m_billybob> sorry i cant do any better than that, its not somethign i normally have interret in personally
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  • [02:07:42] <dagonlan931> new to beagleboard black. i was thinking about making it into a portable gaming console. i bought a 4.3 lcd cape. is there anything else i need to do besides updating, adding drivers, ect?
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  • [02:39:17] <yates> is it possible (and reasonable) to control the GPIO mode (pin control register) through the sysfs?
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  • [02:39:55] <yates> s/pin control register/pad control register/
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  • [02:42:04] <yates> right now it appears that i must load a custom .dts with those register values set, e.g., "... pinctrl-single,pins = <0x018 0x07 ...>"
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  • [02:43:43] <yates> on a beaglebone black rev c, debian 3.8.13-bone64
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  • [03:35:33] <yates> is there some special way to open an ostream to a linux sysfs path?
  • [03:35:38] <yates> std::ofstream os; os.open("/sys/class/gpio/export", std::ios::app); os << 87; os.close();
  • [03:35:49] <yates> that ^^^^ doesn't seem to work.
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  • [03:59:25] <yates> ?
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  • [06:34:40] <nofxx> Any other cape suggestion for prototyping? kicad better.. https://github.com/maskedinterrupt/BareBoneCape
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  • [14:26:28] <diyorgasms> Hi. I'm trying to boot minix 3.3 on a beaglebone black. After I flash the microSD, the correct partition table appears to exist, but when I power on the board, all 4 user LEDs light up solid. Anyone run into this problem in the past? Writing another OS to the microSD works just fine and boots, and I have tried the prebuilt minix image and building my own.
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  • [14:28:59] <tbr> diyorgasms: look at the debug serial output
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  • [14:34:52] <diyorgasms> Thanks. Looks like I'll have to buy an FTDI adapter then.
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  • [15:42:56] <yates> i'm confused
  • [15:43:48] <yates> i just realized that if i a) disable the OS use of the cape's MMC1 and HDMI/LCD signals, and b) use the standard /sys/class/gpio/export method for gaining access to gpios, everything works fine.
  • [15:44:03] <yates> so when is a device tree overlay needed?
  • [15:44:13] <yates> what purpose does it serve?
  • [15:45:44] <yates> at first i thought it would override the os's use of the mmc1 and hdmi, but it didn't - i had to set a "cape_disable=capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G" to do that
  • [15:46:08] <yates> then i thought it was needed to set pin modes (the pad control register mode) to mode 7.
  • [15:46:26] <yates> but it doesn't (apparently the os will do that when you export a gpio if it isn't already set)
  • [15:47:26] <yates> so, for the purpose of gpio usage on the cape, why do you need a dt overlay?
  • [15:47:56] <yates> are they only required to set the pad control register mode to other modes (e.g., for spi or uart peripherals)?
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  • [15:49:44] <yates> this is for a beaglebone black rev c running debian 3.8.13-bone64
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  • [15:51:27] <yates> is this thing on? <knock knock>
  • [15:52:07] <vagrantc> yup
  • [15:54:34] <yates> also, if i were a cape mfr, and i wanted to use either the mmc1 or lcd signals on the cape, how would an EEPROM overlay do that, since apparently the overlay will not override the os usage of those signals?
  • [15:55:41] <yates> or am i mistaken on that? i.e., will an overlay override the os device tree signals? seems i was getting errors when loading my overlay in dmesg without disabling via "cape_disable=..." (in /boot/uEnv.txt).
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  • [15:57:45] <yates> vagrantc: ok, that's good to know..
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  • [16:03:07] <yates> can you smell the color 7?
  • [16:03:44] * yates is hoping his previous questions are not as difficult or silly as the last one...
  • [16:10:29] <yates> are these questions so advanced no one knows the answers? :)
  • [16:11:48] <vagrantc> no, but not everyone is constantly watching the channel...
  • [16:13:10] <yates> true enough.
  • [16:14:52] <agmlego> yates: The topic says it all. ;-P
  • [16:15:01] <agmlego> Mostly the "be patient" line.
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  • [16:37:57] <tootai> Hi all. I just got a bbb and wanted to install bone-debian on it
  • [16:38:54] <tootai> when unpacking and connecting the bbb to my Ubuntu 14.04 ultrabook, I saw eth1 as net device and sdb as hdd
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  • [16:39:55] <tootai> I then ran dd if=bone-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img of=/dev/sdb
  • [16:40:44] <vagrantc> from the ubuntu machine?
  • [16:41:01] <tootai> I got a no space on device after 74MB writing and since no more sdx device
  • [16:41:15] <tootai> yes, from the ubuntu
  • [16:41:52] <tootai> I can plug unplug, nothing. eth1 is replaced by usb0
  • [16:42:05] <vagrantc> that's probably just the exported fat partition, not the whole device
  • [16:42:33] <vagrantc> you'll need to write an image to an microSD card
  • [16:42:56] <tootai> ah ...
  • [16:43:09] <tootai> and how to get back the fat partition?
  • [16:43:15] <tootai> is it necessary ?
  • [16:43:20] <vagrantc> also, if this is a revC BBB, it's already got that image on it
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  • [16:43:37] <vagrantc> although the fat partition is now messed up
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  • [16:44:01] <Arvind> Hi
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  • [16:44:31] <Arvind> i am looking for a beagleboard particularly for image processing for a car.
  • [16:44:33] <vagrantc> tootai: newer images don't strictly need the fat partition
  • [16:45:18] <tootai> ok, will give it a try without fat partition. But is there a way to get it back?
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  • [16:45:45] <vagrantc> tootai: you might be able to dump it from the image file ... but you'd have to get the offsets just right
  • [16:46:02] <tootai> vagrantc: where can I check the REV ?
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  • [16:46:15] <Arvind> I am new to the beagleboard and know a fair amount of AVR programming. Would like to know more on which model to go for.
  • [16:46:19] <vagrantc> tootai: better off writing one of the flasher images to SD and reflashing it
  • [16:46:40] <agmlego> Arvind: There really are not any variations in "model" of beaglebone.
  • [16:46:42] <tootai> OK, will do it. Thanks vagrantc
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  • [16:48:27] <Arvind> Ok...I will primarily use it to analyze road bumps so keeping that in mind...beagleboard is more than enough?...note the task is to be executed real time
  • [16:48:40] <veremit> lol @ versions. There's the BBB, which is the cheap 'version', the old Black .. and the White.
  • [16:49:10] <agmlego> Arvind: No idea. Try it and see.
  • [16:49:24] <agmlego> Arvind: What do you mean by "analyze road bumps"?
  • [16:50:03] <agmlego> Analyze how? Accelerometer? 2D imagery? 3D imagery from laser scanners or radar? Depth maps from ultrasonic or IR reflectometry?
  • [16:50:28] <Arvind> I meant..understanding the structure of the bump whether it is a step input or a ramp or a inverted parabola...
  • [16:50:33] <agmlego> How "real time" does it need to be? What update rate do you need, and what kind of kitter can you tolerate?
  • [16:50:51] <agmlego> WHat language will you use? ARM assembly? C? Python?
  • [16:51:26] <agmlego> These are all questions that determine your answer--the best way to see if something will work, is to try it and see if it works.
  • [16:51:31] <Arvind> Ok it is an ATV and it will be running on a dirt track
  • [16:51:35] <Arvind> C
  • [16:51:48] <Arvind> The matlab code is convertable to C..
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  • [16:54:03] <agmlego> Oh, man. MATLAB code is *not* efficient.
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  • [16:54:16] <agmlego> YOu are almost better off re-writing it if you need performance.
  • [16:54:46] <Arvind> hmm...the code will obviously have to be optimized but the logic is completely through MATLAB...
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  • [16:56:01] <Arvind> I want to implement a PID control on MATLAB with image processing
  • [16:56:16] <Arvind> so all this has to go on the board...
  • [16:56:16] <agmlego> SUre, and I understand that. But I have some experience with MATLAB-turned-C, and let me tell you...Microsoft makes more efficient code than that.
  • [16:56:25] <Arvind> oh
  • [16:56:26] <agmlego> Expect performance issues.
  • [16:56:59] <Arvind> I have made the simulink control...just need to add spice to make it different
  • [16:57:10] <Arvind> i could just use Arduino...:P
  • [16:57:48] <Arvind> I thought of the struggle with MATLAB-turned-C
  • [16:58:17] <agmlego> YOu could. I suspect you will run into the same issues with Arduino though, unless you write your own PID code there as well.
  • [16:58:20] <Arvind> However i am willing to take that risk...
  • [16:58:29] <agmlego> But, again, try it and see.
  • [16:58:58] <Arvind> Initially i just though of using the core instructions to make it function while i build the program around it.
  • [16:59:20] <agmlego> That would work.
  • [16:59:57] <Arvind> Hesitant with the update rate
  • [17:00:36] <Arvind> The image processing is just an add on...
  • [17:01:08] <agmlego> I suggest you maybe work on better defining your system requirements, then select a board based on them. ;-P
  • [17:01:27] <veremit> the beagle is quite versatile
  • [17:01:27] <agmlego> Once you select a board, try the naive approach and see if it works. If it does not, then optimize.
  • [17:01:35] <agmlego> Premature optimization is the enemy.
  • [17:02:10] <yates> speaking of optimization, why don't i hear anyone talking about doing neon instructions on the bbb?
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  • [17:04:10] <agmlego> yates: Does the Bone's ARM have Neon hardware?
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  • [21:54:00] <barsigor> hello i've some problems booting archlinux from beaglebone black, i've formatted SD card, put the FAT-16 partition bootable, power from usb charger, i can connect with serial cable, i see that try to boot from u-boot arch linux but at some moment change to standard eMMC
  • [21:54:45] <barsigor> the only thing i can read different is the message: File not found /boot/initramfs-linux.img, but there are no info on archlinux for arm website to create a initramfs file
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  • [21:58:30] <_av500_> pastebin the whole boot log
  • [22:01:07] <barsigor> http://pastebin.com/b76uQa4q
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  • [22:08:11] <_av500_> barsigor: are you holding the button while booting?
  • [22:08:39] <_av500_> and you have to cut and apply power, just the reset wont work
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  • [22:09:30] <_av500_> also, what is in your uEnv.txt
  • [22:09:34] <barsigor> yes, i cut the power (i detach the plug), i push the button, then reapply power. With the serial cable i can see the differences, when try to boot from SDCard it show u-boot ARCH linux, when try to boot from eMMC no
  • [22:09:59] <_av500_> right, I see that
  • [22:10:08] <barsigor> the archlinux eMMC contains only 1 row: optargs=coherent_pool=1M
  • [22:10:51] <_av500_> hmm, looks like your bootargs point to the emmc toorfs
  • [22:11:01] <_av500_> your log does not show the kernel command line
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  • [22:11:47] <barsigor> i think is correct becaus is the one shipped directly from beaglebone page on the archlinux website: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/ti/beaglebone-black
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  • [22:54:36] <bgamari> Is the original dtb used for booting available somewhere in procfs?
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  • [22:56:53] <rcn-ee> well the expanded version is under /proc/device-tree
  • [22:57:02] <bgamari> rcn-ee, sadly it seems to lack nodes
  • [22:57:31] <bgamari> rcn-ee, it's very odd, I loaded a module which owns one of the devices in the devicetree and it found the device
  • [22:57:50] <bgamari> rcn-ee, yet /proc/device-tree doesn't show the node responsible
  • [22:58:17] <bgamari> rcn-ee, Also, what is the status of gpio_helper?
  • [22:58:29] <bgamari> Are there plans to upstream it or something like it?
  • [22:59:14] <rcn-ee> well, we are using pinmux-helper/gpio_helper on v3.14.x so yeah, it should be pushed. .;)
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  • [23:00:57] <bgamari> rcn-ee, you've seen http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.gpio/1749/focus=1860
  • [23:01:00] <bgamari> ?
  • [23:02:17] <bgamari> and http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.gpio/868/focus=870
  • [23:02:40] <bgamari> and http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.gpio/871/focus=879
  • [23:03:14] <bgamari> Linus Walleij suggested the approach in the first thread
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  • [23:03:46] <bgamari> although that particular implementation was done for reasons other than naming and exporting GPIOs
  • [23:05:33] <rcn-ee> well, we are using pinmux-helper in 3.14, as there's currently no upstream way to do what we want.. That's switch the gpio pinmux between different perhiperals in userspace..
  • [23:05:58] <bgamari> rcn-ee, I guess given that uboot is responsible for giving the kernel a dtb it's not even possible to get the filename that was used, eh?
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  • [23:06:38] <bgamari> rcn-ee, the gpio-hog work?
  • [23:07:03] <rcn-ee> it'll use the default dtb based on the platform, if you override it, i print that out in u-boot
  • [23:07:31] <bgamari> rcn-ee, yeah, the trouble being my cape blocks the debug UART
  • [23:07:43] <bgamari> rcn-ee, well, I set dtb in uEnv.txt
  • [23:08:08] <bgamari> rcn-ee, on that note, it might be nice if there were an easy way to get uboot to use the default dtb
  • [23:08:43] <bgamari> rcn-ee, currently if you set `dtb` in uEnv.txt to a unbootable devicetree it's nearly impossible to recover unless you're using a SD caard
  • [23:09:04] <rcn-ee> either pass dtb=xyz in /boot/uEnv.txt and it'll use that *.dtb over the default one..
  • [23:09:19] <bgamari> rcn-ee, right, that's what I did
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  • [23:09:41] <rcn-ee> true.. but i do "test" for the existence... so if you can remove the *.dtb it'll then boot the default.. we can't test if it "works"..
  • [23:10:07] <bgamari> rcn-ee, can't remove it if you're booting from emmc however
  • [23:10:19] <bgamari> rcn-ee, Just a flag `ignore_dtb` would suffice
  • [23:10:36] <rcn-ee> actually there is a "boot count" variable.. as long as the watchdog works and reboot's it, you could use that to use a default *.dtb after so many reries..
  • [23:10:39] <bgamari> so you can interrupt uboot, `setenv ignore_dtb`, and `boot` as usual
  • [23:11:14] <bgamari> rcn-ee, in my case I forgot to enable the emmc in the devicetree so it just failed to find the root partition
  • [23:11:25] <bgamari> watchdog never seemed to fire
  • [23:11:39] <bgamari> which I suppose isn't surprising given the machine was technically responsive
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  • [23:14:15] <rcn-ee> it the watchdog was also just added by default in u-boot v2014.10-rcX's so, you might have an older u-boot anyways..
  • [23:14:37] <bgamari> rcn-ee, possible
  • [23:15:14] <bgamari> regardless, a flag might be helpful
  • [23:16:49] <bgamari> rcn-ee, hmm, if uboot doesn't say anything about a dtb name I guess that means it's using the default, eh?
  • [23:17:23] <rcn-ee> btw, with the way i'm setting up v3.14, it's obvious what set's up the eMMC: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/dtb-rebuilder/blob/3.14-ti/src/arm/am335x-boneblack.dts#L54
  • [23:17:26] <rcn-ee> correct
  • [23:17:27] <bgamari> rcn-ee, also, it might be nice if uEnv.txt included a comment describing what form the dtb name should take
  • [23:17:39] <bgamari> rcn-ee, e.g. with directory? with extension?
  • [23:18:56] <rcn-ee> bgamari, you can pick one of these 7: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:U-boot_partitioning_layout_2.0#u-boot_dtb_search_order
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  • [23:19:56] <veremit> only 7?! :p
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  • [23:20:20] <bgamari> rcn-ee, so the file name in dtb= shouldn't include the extension?
  • [23:20:36] <rcn-ee> first one it triggers a file existance test, it'll try to boot.. #3/#4 will be consoldated, ubuntu is mirror fedora..
  • [23:21:23] <rcn-ee> nope, just the name "dtb=am335x-boneblack.dtb"
  • [23:21:34] <bgamari> hmm
  • [23:22:02] <rcn-ee> this allows us to install ubuntu/debian/fedora's kernel in the debian rootfs (update the uname_r var in /boot/uEnv.txt) and boot their kernel..
  • [23:22:15] <bgamari> rcn-ee, which repo is the uboot configuration tracked in?
  • [23:22:54] <bgamari> rcn-ee, ahh
  • [23:23:11] <rcn-ee> here: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/Bootloader-Builder i'm waiting for fedora to finish up their distro_defaults for ti boards, then i can nuke a bunch of my patchset..
  • [23:23:59] <bgamari> rcn-ee, thanks for being so organized!
  • [23:25:27] <rcn-ee> i have to.. managing a bunch of boards, and have to make all the upstream hackers happy. ;)
  • [23:30:54] <bgamari> wow, bootloader builder requires not one but two compiler toolchains
  • [23:31:26] <rcn-ee> That's just for the mx23 and atmel 9x5's. (arm9)
  • [23:31:27] <veremit> eww
  • [23:31:52] <m_billybob> what would you all consider the best arm chip rigth now
  • [23:32:15] <rcn-ee> armv8
  • [23:32:24] <m_billybob> i know sorry for the injected random question
  • [23:32:48] <m_billybob> any specific make / model ?
  • [23:33:33] <rcn-ee> the A1100 looks nice. ;)
  • [23:34:15] <m_billybob> Allwinner ?
  • [23:34:37] <rcn-ee> nope.. it's an 8-core 64bit from amd. ;)
  • [23:34:45] <bgamari> heh
  • [23:34:53] <m_billybob> heh
  • [23:34:54] <veremit> what board's that on?
  • [23:34:57] <rcn-ee> you said "best".. ;)
  • [23:35:03] <m_billybob> yeah
  • [23:35:05] <rcn-ee> it's available. ;)
  • [23:35:14] <m_billybob> i had interrestin their R series APUs for a while
  • [23:36:07] <m_billybob> but, can not see those being in the hobbyists price range
  • [23:36:22] <bgamari> rcn-ee, anything special necessary to install the new bootloader?
  • [23:36:30] <bgamari> just copy over MLO and u-boot.img?
  • [23:36:42] <m_billybob> leave hole in first 1MB ?
  • [23:36:55] <rcn-ee> last i read it was $5k, which is the cheapest 64bit arm, other then an apple ripped apart..
  • [23:37:14] <m_billybob> whole dev board im assuming ?
  • [23:37:22] <m_billybob> and yeah thats pretty pricey
  • [23:37:36] <rcn-ee> bgamari, should be fine.. if you want to get crazy and nuke the fat partitoin: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:U-boot_partitioning_layout_2.0#Boot_Partition_.28omap4.2B_.28am335x.29.29
  • [23:38:42] <rcn-ee> or wait, $3k http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/64-bit-developer-kit-2014jul30.aspx
  • [23:38:56] <bgamari> rcn-ee, alright, still not entirely sure whether this is necessary or not
  • [23:39:11] <bgamari> rcn-ee, u-boot outright refuses to find my dtb
  • [23:39:33] <bgamari> rcn-ee, might it be problematic if there's a residual installation on emmc (I'm booting from sd)?
  • [23:39:49] <rcn-ee> eMMC's mlo/u-boot.img loads before microsd...
  • [23:40:22] <rcn-ee> so you'll either have to force microSD, or undo the "boot" flag on the eMMC..
  • [23:40:28] <m_billybob> rcn-ee, still what about parts costs / availability, i mean its not likely we're going ot see an entry level dev board in the $100-$200 from them or any third party id imagine ? Somethign lile what was nVidias chip ?
  • [23:40:51] <m_billybob> unobtanium ?
  • [23:41:14] <m_billybob> ah microATX format . . .yeah
  • [23:41:17] <rcn-ee> the tegra k1 is nice, specially when you get to run nouveu and have "opengl" on a arm board! ;)
  • [23:41:23] <m_billybob> they're not really serious abotu embedded yet
  • [23:42:00] <m_billybob> rcn-ee, good luck geting hands on it as a normal developer not tied to a big money business though right ?
  • [23:42:27] <m_billybob> I'd imagine you could atleast get some of those toys
  • [23:42:31] <m_billybob> me . . probably not
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  • [23:43:14] <m_billybob> I would love to play with a Tegra board though
  • [23:43:15] <rcn-ee> i got one... getting the silcon is a lot harder..
  • [23:43:42] <rcn-ee> otherwise, i still like the $/performance of the wand quad...
  • [23:43:42] <m_billybob> even my Nexus 7 doesnt have a Tegra 2 in it. new revision i guess
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  • [23:43:59] <rcn-ee> the first ones' were tegra 3's..
  • [23:44:17] <rcn-ee> tegra 2 was slow... no neon..
  • [23:44:20] <m_billybob> the NExus 7's ? hell if i remember thought Tegra 2
  • [23:44:57] <m_billybob> if it wasnt for the fact that its n awesoe little tablet id take it apart and turn it into somethign ressembling a dev boardl ol
  • [23:45:09] <rcn-ee> the nexus 7 wifi launched with the tegra 3..
  • [23:45:23] <m_billybob> yeah this one has some odd snapdragon CPU in it
  • [23:45:32] <m_billybob> or something id have to look on the box again
  • [23:45:44] <m_billybob> its still a quad
  • [23:46:14] <bgamari> rcn-ee, any way to quickly clear emmc short of dd?
  • [23:46:34] <veremit> no nand flash erase equivalent?
  • [23:47:32] <rcn-ee> you can read/write to eMMC from u-boot.. you just need to disable the boot flag..
  • [23:49:17] <bgamari> rcn-ee, I've already tried disabling the boot flag but still no dice
  • [23:49:20] <m_billybob> lol wait been looking for the box, ive CPUZ on it lol
  • [23:49:37] <bgamari> at this point I just want to be sure I don't get confused
  • [23:50:16] <m_billybob> yeah its a qualcomm quad
  • [23:50:32] <m_billybob> with an Ardreno 3200 GPU i guess
  • [23:50:37] <m_billybob> not familiar with it
  • [23:50:41] <m_billybob> 320*
  • [23:50:42] <bgamari> man, I just can't imagine what I'm doing wrong
  • [23:50:43] <rcn-ee> and much better pm, then the tegra 3..
  • [23:50:49] <rcn-ee> bgamari, dd the eMMC. ;)
  • [23:50:59] <rcn-ee> (first 10mb is fine..)
  • [23:51:08] <bgamari> rcn-ee, already done
  • [23:51:12] <bgamari> sadly still no dtb
  • [23:51:28] <rcn-ee> then unhook power... the chip likes to "remember" it's prevous boot..
  • [23:51:44] <m_billybob> yeap snapdragon 600
  • [23:53:00] <m_billybob> rcn-ee, would love to use this as a dev system but lol was a gift, and id really hate futz it up
  • [23:53:33] <rcn-ee> m_billybob, http://www.inforcecomputing.com/product/moreinfo/ifc6410.html (same cpu)
  • [23:55:06] <m_billybob> oh wow thanks so forgive my ignorance this is some form of ARM ? i mean im sure it is but no idea what "Krait 300" *is*
  • [23:56:17] <rcn-ee> that's the marketting name qualcomm uses. They licensed the "instruction" set from arm, and designed their own "compatiable" Cortex Ax core..
  • [23:56:26] <m_billybob> im still new to ARM stuff pretty much all know is the BBB, well and a few M3/M4 MCUs
  • [23:56:36] <m_billybob> so its not specific to v7 or v8 ?
  • [23:56:58] <rcn-ee> it's "compatible" with a "v7"...
  • [23:57:29] <m_billybob> well you know where im going with this ? basically looking for an inexpensive native compile board
  • [23:57:48] <bgamari> rcn-ee, hmm, this sd card has only one partition and it's ext4
  • [23:58:00] <bgamari> oh the confusion
  • [23:58:01] <rcn-ee> wand quad + cheap sata drive.. around $150 total..
  • [23:58:08] <m_billybob> bgamari, made sure the write lock is off ?
  • [23:58:46] <bgamari> hmm
  • [23:58:50] <rcn-ee> bgamari, yeah that's latest world changing image i pushed out. ;) vfat isn't required.. ;)
  • [23:59:02] <bgamari> and there's both a /uEnv.txt and /boot/uEnv.txt
  • [23:59:07] <m_billybob> rcn-ee, ok yeah i asked you about that a while back on the forums. and ive heard lots about the wanderboard so that may be the route i go. just keeping my options open
  • [23:59:17] <bgamari> rcn-ee, whoo hooo!
  • [23:59:21] <rcn-ee> the /uEnv.txt is a shim for older eMMC's bootloaders.. you can remove it..
  • [23:59:38] <bgamari> alright