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  • [00:26:46] <samantha> hi, have a config problem... anyone can help regarding BBB usb0 auto config?... i'd like to disable it so that i can plug an ethernet adapter cable to it.. anyone knows how to do that?
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  • [00:30:55] <veremit> you don't need to disable to plug ethernet in :)
  • [00:31:00] <veremit> just go right ahead
  • [00:32:44] <samantha> i know i could just use thhe usb cable and reach a usb port on a machine... but i have specific need for this port and i need it to be hooked to an ethernet switch direclty...
  • [00:33:51] <veremit> the usb doesn't connect to the ethernet .. so just plug an rj45 from the beagle to whereever .. the usb doesn't have to be connected, and won't instantiate an interface if it doesn't detect one connected.
  • [00:33:54] <veremit> hotplug ftw
  • [00:34:08] <veremit> the networking will sort itself out
  • [00:34:11] <veremit> dhcp works.
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  • [03:22:30] <jnesselr> I've got a question about starting a python script that requires a console on boot.
  • [03:22:49] <jnesselr> It runs just fine, but I don't know enough about systemd to tell it to run inside a console.
  • [03:23:50] <jnesselr> Or would it be better to follow this guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#How_do_I_set_automatic_login_on_a_virtual_console_terminal.3F
  • [03:23:56] <jnesselr> And then set up the process to run on tty8
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  • [04:56:22] <znsafu> fuck
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  • [06:52:37] <gerod> hi to all
  • [06:53:04] <gerod> i used bone-debian-7.6-console-armhf-2014-09-04-2gb.img with a sd
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  • [06:54:56] <gerod> the bbb boot but how can i connect to it? no usb 192.168.7.2
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  • [06:57:11] <Humpelstilzchen> gerod: what OS do you use?
  • [06:57:57] <gerod> win 7
  • [06:58:02] <gerod> why?
  • [06:58:48] <Humpelstilzchen> never tried on windows, did you follow the instructions?
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  • [06:59:08] <gerod> img written to sd
  • [06:59:11] <woglinde> gerod connect serial console
  • [06:59:22] <gerod> how?
  • [06:59:26] <woglinde> otherwise you do not know whats going on
  • [06:59:35] <woglinde> use ftdi compatible cable
  • [06:59:46] <gerod> i dont have
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  • [07:19:26] <sachin_> I am new to Yocto project, but will start exploring it with my beagle board. Does any one have done it ? any one has any recommendation.
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  • [07:20:29] <LetoThe2nd> sachin_: yocto has good documentation, and the meta-ti layer (that you would be using) has http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ti/tree/README
  • [07:20:48] <LetoThe2nd> sachin_: should be enough.
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  • [07:22:29] <sachin_> Ok Thanks. But my main concern is If I start exploring and trying to map to my project It is going consume my time. So does it will help for future embedded projects. Does community people started taking interest on. Will it help to improve as addition skill
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  • [07:22:52] <LetoThe2nd> sachin_: that sentence makes not much sense.
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  • [07:23:29] <sachin_> Ok fine. I will try for my beagleboard.
  • [07:23:41] <sachin_> with Angstrom OS.
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  • [10:17:31] <whash> hi, my bbb won't boot until it's connected to the network, how should i fix it! ?
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  • [10:25:28] <tbr> whash: what makes you think it doesn't boot if it's not connected to the network?
  • [10:26:25] <whash> i have lcd connected to it, it stuckes when loading kernel (pinguin logo on upper left)
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  • [10:28:08] <whash> but when i attach the ethernet cable to it (dhcp configured), ... it comes up
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  • [10:31:20] <tbr> whash: sounds like something in your boot process. I'd look at serial console and boot logs.
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  • [10:35:43] <whash> tbr: i dont have any serial cable right now, it is my uEnv.txt: http://pastebin.com/aynAT0V8 can it be related to the problem?
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  • [10:36:11] <tbr> whash: no logs, no analysis. simple as that.
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  • [10:36:51] <whash> sorry here it is: http://pastebin.com/injxg88W
  • [10:37:19] <tbr> that's not a boot log
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  • [10:39:18] <whash> i know but i thout it's related to bootloader, btw is there any way to get boot log without serial cable?
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  • [10:49:29] <matwey> Hi, I have a question about BBB
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  • [10:50:25] <matwey> I have only 4.7V on SYS_V5 rail and USB, inspite of powering from PC USB or external 3A power adapter
  • [10:50:29] <matwey> Is it ok?
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  • [10:53:19] <yassine> hello, can you help me about code python to control lcd 20*4 with beaglebone black
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  • [10:53:48] <Dudu> Apologies for disturbing. Could anybody confirm if the Beaglebone White is discontinued? Thanks!
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  • [10:55:51] <yassine> hi
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  • [10:56:39] <whash> hello
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  • [11:13:00] <myway> hey
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  • [11:15:33] <KotH> tahoemph: mind fixing your network connection?
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  • [11:16:25] <nivw__> Maybe someone here uses GEDA pcb and can help me with this error?
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  • [11:17:30] <nivw__> matwey: yes , the bbb infact uses 3.3V
  • [11:17:40] <nivw__> so the 4.7 is converted to 3.3v
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  • [11:19:35] <KotH> nivw__: it's easier if you ask in ##geda
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  • [11:19:41] <nivw__> tbr: I am considering installing a water flow counter to my home. as the one I use in the gardening irrigation system
  • [11:19:54] <nivw__> this is also a big data concept...
  • [11:20:13] <tbr> ok
  • [11:20:25] <nivw__> thanks KotH, I was only aware of a geda channel in OFTC
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  • [11:20:44] <KotH> nivw__: hmm.. it could have been on oftc
  • [11:20:56] <KotH> nivw__: i dont keep track on whcih network these channels are, as i'm on both :)
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  • [11:22:03] <nivw__> thanks KotH
  • [11:22:22] <nivw__> tbr, I don't really know what to do with the data yet
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  • [11:24:27] <tbr> nivw__: go wild, log it all, do interesting analysis later
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  • [11:24:48] <nivw__> yep
  • [11:24:59] <tbr> corellate water consumption with power consumption with chili stew cooking, etc ;)
  • [11:25:17] <KotH> and the odor in your toilet ;)
  • [11:28:37] <nivw__> this may alert of a leak...
  • [11:29:07] <woglinde> hi koth
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  • [11:29:36] <KotH> hey woglinde
  • [11:29:48] <KotH> woglinde: wie geht's wie steht's?
  • [11:30:20] <woglinde> good
  • [11:30:27] <woglinde> hotel is booked for elce
  • [11:30:40] <woglinde> flight too
  • [11:32:02] * tbr is all riled up for ELCE
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  • [11:33:23] <nivw__> what is ELCE?
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  • [11:34:11] <tbr> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe
  • [11:34:12] <KotH> woglinde: meh.. i still need a hotel
  • [11:34:21] <woglinde> koth mom
  • [11:34:22] <KotH> woglinde: also: seek out the guy with the chocolate at ELCE :)
  • [11:34:24] <tbr> KotH: tried radisson yet?
  • [11:34:28] <KotH> tbr: fully booked
  • [11:34:35] <tbr> also by phone?
  • [11:34:42] <KotH> tbr: hmm.. didnt do that
  • [11:34:51] <tbr> their website is lying
  • [11:34:53] <KotH> tbr: good idea, i'll try later today
  • [11:35:22] <tbr> as said previously, I got monday added to my reservation despite site claiming full
  • [11:37:54] <KotH> oh.. that was monday?
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  • [12:21:59] <konrad> Hi everyone
  • [12:22:26] <konrad> Is anyone able to help me with USB hub problem on my linux+BBB board?
  • [12:23:08] <LetoThe2nd> sure. no hub, no problem
  • [12:23:36] <konrad> Yeap, sound about right, but I need this HUB to work.
  • [12:24:07] <KotH> well.. _WHAT_ is your problem?
  • [12:24:14] <konrad> If I plug it after boot everything works nice, if I plug it and than boot, it is not recognized at all
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  • [12:25:35] <tbr> fun USB times, courtesy of musb
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  • [12:26:04] <konrad> I do not know why, I searched google, etc. and many people experience similar problem, but so far I did not found any solution to it.
  • [12:26:41] <tbr> konrad: which distro are you running on it?
  • [12:26:42] <Dudu> If it is plugged and working, and you reboot, does it work?
  • [12:27:24] <konrad> nope, it is not working in that case either.
  • [12:28:20] <konrad> machinekit, which is kernel 3.8.13xenomai-bone26.1, based on the official Debian release for the BeagleBone using Robert C Nelson's omap-image-builder scripts
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  • [12:29:01] <KotH> konrad: there have been lots of fixes in the usb code since 3.8
  • [12:29:08] <KotH> konrad: try a newer one
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  • [12:30:37] <tbr> no idea about the xenomai patched stuff and how in sync with latest fixes that is
  • [12:30:53] <tbr> but yeah, trying something more recent might be an idea too
  • [12:31:07] <tbr> "differently broken" ;
  • [12:31:11] <tbr> ;)
  • [12:32:22] <Dudu> probably you can try to reset the supply of the USB host connector, but I don't know how :)
  • [12:32:37] <konrad> xenomai is real time kernel mod
  • [12:33:36] <tbr> konrad: I know that. the question is how much it's kept in sync with RCNs kernel
  • [12:34:14] <konrad> no idea, searching now
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  • [12:41:33] <konrad> I think I might have to compile it my self, I can not find anything fresher than 3.8
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  • [12:49:57] <konrad> thanks, bye
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  • [13:28:31] <samantha_a> hi all... i need help to configure my BBB, can anyone help? I need 3 physical ethernet ports on the BBB.. i have 2 right now (the ethernet port and the usb host that i hooked to an ethernet adaptor)... i need a 3rd one so i am hoping to use the mini-usb to that end. I connected an ethernet adaptor to it but it always comes up as usb0 and i cannot have the ethernet adaptor working... anyone know what should be disabled/enabled to a
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  • [13:33:24] <tbr> samantha_a: use an usb hub on the host port
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  • [13:37:43] <samantha_a> tbr: i know i could do that... but specifically for what i intend to do... i need 3 physical ports and a hub, a switch or connecting to a desktop using the usb cable just won't allow me to do what i want.. thanks for the answer, but i really need that physical ethernet adaptor to be hooked up
  • [13:38:07] <_av500_> samantha_a: I think you need a hardware change to use the mini USB as host
  • [13:38:16] <_av500_> it is not wired for that
  • [13:38:21] <tbr> correct
  • [13:38:28] <_av500_> so for all practical purposes, BBB has one USB only
  • [13:38:33] <tbr> also I wouldn't want to rely on usb nor usb-ethernet
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  • [13:40:20] <samantha_a> really?.... ahhhh... i thought sw config could fix that up....
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  • [13:43:39] <samantha_a> @_av500_... you're sure nothing can be done?
  • [13:44:27] <LetoThe2nd> samantha_a: you could use a phytec wega.. it has 2eth+usb
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  • [13:48:23] <agmlego> samantha_a: Use two USB Ethernet adapters and a USB hub on the USB host port.
  • [13:48:45] <agmlego> samantha_a: Or, use one of the many SPI-connected Ethernet modules out there.
  • [13:49:43] <agmlego> samantha_a: Or, use a different board with more Ethernet ports--the Alix boards from PCEngines have models with that many.
  • [13:57:32] <_av500_> samantha_a: something can be done
  • [13:57:35] <_av500_> soldering involved
  • [13:57:37] <_av500_> google for it
  • [13:57:40] <_av500_> it has been discussed
  • [13:57:54] <_av500_> agmlego: SPI is dead slow, no?
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  • [14:09:26] <agmlego> _av500_: I think you can usually get at least 10Mbps out of iot.
  • [14:09:43] <agmlego> _av500_: But since she has not really mentioned what the hell she is doing...
  • [14:09:43] <_av500_> wow :)
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  • [14:31:02] <day> _av500_: the beagle spi? or spi in general? i thought spi is used on mainboards for usb, pcie etc. interfaces :o
  • [14:32:29] <_av500_> werm
  • [14:32:31] <_av500_> erm
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  • [14:32:32] <_av500_> no
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  • [14:35:10] <agmlego> day: PCIe is an LVDS system, as is USB.
  • [14:35:34] <agmlego> day: Mainboards tend to throw USB controllers onto a PCI bus, which itself is generally fed off a PCIe to PCI bridge.
  • [14:35:57] <agmlego> day: Mainboards do tend to have an I2C bus or two for hardware sensors, using the SMBus software protocol.
  • [14:36:16] <samantha_a> sorry agmlego.....just need to have traffic on ethernet cable... whether its 100mps or 10... it's fine for me... just ned data to flow...
  • [14:36:19] <samantha_a> :-)
  • [14:36:37] <agmlego> samantha_a: I really, really think you are using the wrong board for this.
  • [14:37:22] <agmlego> samantha_a: But, may I ask what you are actually trying to accomplish?
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  • [14:42:22] <samantha_a> well.... i am using LLDP protocol as a discovery mecanism for ports and it needs physical ports
  • [14:42:39] <samantha_a> i was hoping to have 3 physical interfaces
  • [14:42:46] <samantha_a> no virtual ones
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  • [14:45:58] <day> agmlego: ty
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  • [14:46:33] <agmlego> samantha_a: OK, but what is the overall project?
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  • [14:50:58] <day> agmlego: doesnt a differential signal require two data lines? i2C only has one iirc.
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  • [14:53:03] <Ishaan> Hi
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  • [14:55:30] <agmlego> day: I2C is not a differential bus. It is, however, a two-wire interface (hence TWI), with a clock line and a data line.
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  • [14:56:03] <KotH> (and a ground line which is often forgotten)
  • [14:56:27] <agmlego> Sure, but since *every* bus requires that, it is irrelevant.
  • [14:56:37] <day> agmlego: yes. but your LVDS threw me of. Or doesnt it mean low voltage differential system?
  • [14:56:44] <agmlego> It does.
  • [14:56:57] <agmlego> I2C is *not* used for PCIe or USB...
  • [14:57:13] <agmlego> It is used for SMBus, for the hardware sensors around the mainboard and peripherals.
  • [14:57:18] <agmlego> Also for EDID.
  • [14:57:25] <day> agmlego: :X
  • [14:57:39] <day> im miss read it completely
  • [14:57:57] <agmlego> Heh. It happens.
  • [14:59:03] <day> agmlego: does the pcie bus has a name as well?
  • [14:59:07] <_av500_> yes
  • [14:59:08] <_av500_> PCIE
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  • [14:59:16] <agmlego> day: What _av500_ said.
  • [14:59:20] <day> oh shit
  • [14:59:25] <_av500_> though I call mine Bob
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  • [14:59:37] <_av500_> Bob, pass me the framebuffer please
  • [14:59:40] <agmlego> day: Time for more caffeine maybe? ;-P
  • [14:59:59] <day> 17:00 time to go home :)
  • [15:00:17] <agmlego> Or that, whichever.
  • [15:00:25] <_av500_> day: look for night
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  • [15:00:25] <day> but also caffeine :p
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  • [15:00:45] <agmlego> Six more hours here to that.
  • [15:01:17] <day> east coast i assume
  • [15:01:51] <agmlego> day: Detroit area, but same timezone.
  • [15:02:18] <day> i almost managed to get an internship in that region. but then i didnt :(
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  • [18:57:42] <simonz> question... can i use the hdmi to have another ethernet interface?
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  • [19:00:22] <_av500_> no
  • [19:00:38] <_av500_> unless you can live with ethernet over i2c
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  • [19:02:00] <simonz> not aware of i2c.. am not a hw guy...
  • [19:02:18] <simonz> don't really care about the speed....
  • [19:02:49] <_av500_> so, no
  • [19:03:06] <simonz> do you suggest me some hardware to add to my beagle board?
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  • [19:05:29] <agmlego> simonz: USB Ethernet interfaces exist.
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  • [19:05:49] <agmlego> Also, SPI-connected Ethernet modules exist.
  • [19:06:36] <simonz> am pretty dumb with these components... i dream of a plug&play solution ;-)
  • [19:06:52] <gurki> well. what exactly are you going to do?
  • [19:07:02] <_av500_> usb hub
  • [19:07:05] <_av500_> usb2eth modules
  • [19:07:07] <_av500_> done
  • [19:07:20] <simonz> can these be connected to the beagle bone and an ethx appearing in there like magic? without using my 2 precious usb ports ;-)
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  • [19:07:42] <gurki> huh?
  • [19:07:44] <_av500_> no
  • [19:07:46] <_av500_> hence the usb hub
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  • [19:10:39] <Mario___> Hi, I have a problem with the BBB. When I Ioose the wifi signal (because someone turn off the router or i get out of the wifi cover) the BBB doesn't automatically reconnect to the known wifi signal
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  • [19:11:45] <Mario___> What should I do, for the BBB to reconnect automatically once the wifi signal is on again?
  • [19:12:33] <agmlego> Mario___: Use management software like connman or wicd to automatically reconnect.
  • [19:13:29] <Mario___> I am currently using connman but is not working
  • [19:13:42] <Mario___> what type of configuration should I use?
  • [19:14:18] <agmlego> One that does automatic reconnection.
  • [19:14:23] * agmlego is not familiar with connman.
  • [19:14:33] <agmlego> But I am sure there is documentation on the program.
  • [19:15:28] * djlewis recalls connman was evil if one tried to use static ip.
  • [19:15:59] <Mario___> We are trying to use dhcp
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  • [21:23:22] <m_billybob> Anything interesting going on in the beaglebone world today ?
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  • [21:24:50] <agmlego> Nope. Everyone is out either swimming, or playing with their Edisons.
  • [21:25:37] <m_billybob> Define Edisons
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  • [21:26:05] <m_billybob> Only Edisons I know of is batteries
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  • [21:27:34] <agmlego> Intel Edison, announced yesterday.
  • [21:27:50] <agmlego> Little dual-core x86 dev platform 10% larger than an SD card.
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  • [21:29:11] <m_billybob> hmm ill have to go google that, and very surprised I did not get any kind of email indicating that. must fix that
  • [21:29:25] <agmlego> Sparkfun had a post about it.
  • [21:29:29] <agmlego> Hackaday has had two.
  • [21:29:37] <agmlego> THis was not a silent announcement.
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  • [21:32:35] <m_billybob> recently reinstalled my desktop as in a couple months ago i gues i hmm gues i never had HAD notifications
  • [21:33:20] <m_billybob> possible i read about it just forgot about it.
  • [21:33:50] <m_billybob> "The best part? Edison will retail for about $50. That’s a dual core x86 platform in a tiny footprint for just a few bucks more than a Raspberry Pi." wonder if these guys actually tried getting an rPI for retail cost
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  • [21:35:42] <agmlego> m_billybob: Even still it is definitely in the same ballpark as the other common SBCs.
  • [21:37:02] <m_billybob> Timing is way late. I mean its interresting, but i was looking for somethign like this well over a year ago. Now im kind of liking arm
  • [21:37:24] <m_billybob> I'd probably still buy one
  • [21:37:48] <m_billybob> If for nothing else. to have something else to tpy with
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  • [21:42:03] <agmlego> I really like that it is so physically small, and multicore.
  • [21:42:27] <agmlego> And, being an Intel product and x86, probably has really strong Linux driver support for all the hardware.
  • [21:42:33] <m_billybob> yeah thats very nice
  • [21:42:45] <agmlego> (and gcc will optimize pretty effectively for it)
  • [21:42:50] <m_billybob> and i did hear of this -> IntelGalileo I did not realize they were related
  • [21:43:08] <agmlego> Yeah, though those are different in a lot of ways.
  • [21:43:23] <veremit> is that minnowmax out?
  • [21:43:36] <agmlego> Galileo was an i586 QUark; Edison is a pair of underclocked Atom cores with a low-speed QUark.
  • [21:43:44] <m_billybob> Arduino i have no love for
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  • [21:44:45] <m_billybob> im kind of an MSP430 fan, and if i needed mroe horsepower I'd go with an M0+ /M3 devboard
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  • [21:45:04] <vvu> m_billybob: +1 to msp430 !
  • [21:45:06] <agmlego> Depends on what level of horsepower, really.
  • [21:45:07] <m_billybob> I have 4 TI LM120 kits here in front of me
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  • [21:45:19] <agmlego> But yeah, for low-performance stuff, MSP430 is nice.
  • [21:45:35] <m_billybob> hard to beat the MSP430 for low power
  • [21:45:55] <agmlego> I like the Edison and others because I can do high-level things like vision processing with them, and still get decent realtime performance for hardware control.
  • [21:46:03] <m_billybob> I've only ever used the 2553 but its still got plenty of stuff
  • [21:46:17] <agmlego> Yeah, I am a fan of the architecture for its purpose.
  • [21:46:58] <m_billybob> I'm a "tweaker / tinkerer
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  • [21:47:21] <m_billybob> love to tinker with things and tweak for efficiency
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  • [21:54:53] <m_billybob> although heh, would have liked a better clockspeed
  • [21:55:25] <m_billybob> really cant complain though, and yeah looks like the sleeping giant finally woke up
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  • [21:57:15] <agmlego> m_billybob: Well, the Atom itself is normally 1.2GHz.
  • [21:57:42] <m_billybob> this is no heatsink or fan though
  • [21:57:52] <agmlego> It is underclocked to 500MHz for power consumption--I have no doubt it is reasonably easy to undo that if you have a stiff enough power supply and a good heatsink.
  • [21:57:55] <agmlego> Right.
  • [21:58:14] <m_billybob> im reading the hardware guide right now
  • [21:58:23] <m_billybob> seems there is a BSP already for it too
  • [21:58:25] <agmlego> And, but the hands-on review by an Intel engineer from a different project, the unit does not get hot at all.
  • [21:58:31] <agmlego> Of course there is.
  • [21:58:41] <agmlego> YOu think Intel would issue something like this without? ;-P
  • [21:58:48] <m_billybob> yeah but im curious for which OS(s)
  • [21:58:57] <m_billybob> definately LInux
  • [21:59:01] <agmlego> Yocto.
  • [21:59:10] <agmlego> And maybe Debian and Android down the road.
  • [21:59:21] <veremit> intel can't recognise linux if they're in bed with m$ surely ..
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  • [21:59:34] <agmlego> ...what?
  • [21:59:35] <m_billybob> its x86 no BSP required for those lol well maybe for the periphs
  • [21:59:37] <veremit> it'll have to run windoze inbedded :p
  • [21:59:48] <agmlego> veremit: Are you trolling?
  • [21:59:53] <veremit> pfft
  • [21:59:57] <m_billybob> windows embedded
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  • [22:00:08] <agmlego> Because Intel is the golden child in the Linux world for device driver support.
  • [22:00:10] <veremit> and reflashing my new router >,<
  • [22:00:22] <agmlego> Like, Linus uses their drivers as the model.
  • [22:00:23] <veremit> thats cos they actually do coding
  • [22:00:29] <veremit> rather than farm it out
  • [22:00:42] <agmlego> So, I have no idea where you are going with that "in bed with MS" stuff.
  • [22:00:43] <veremit> and if you're writing it once in C ...
  • [22:00:58] <agmlego> (never mind the fact that Yocto is an Intel-funded project)
  • [22:01:00] <veremit> its their license I'd imagine
  • [22:01:02] <m_billybob> This'll run with windows on it i have no doubt.
  • [22:01:21] <m_billybob> wont run well though
  • [22:01:21] <agmlego> m_billybob: Probably, though with no obvious display output, it might be trikcy to do so.
  • [22:01:44] <m_billybob> naw thats all configurable with windows embedded
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  • [22:01:55] <m_billybob> its kind of like linux, but non OSS
  • [22:02:02] <m_billybob> very modular
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  • [22:02:52] <m_billybob> oh andthe most important part when only paying 50 bux for this sort of thing. the OS would cost more than the hardware
  • [22:03:18] <agmlego> Yup.
  • [22:04:27] <m_billybob> ok, im a bit lost with this ----> Dual Core IA-32 @ 500 MHz, 32-bit Intel® Atom™ Processor Z34xx Series @ 100 MHz
  • [22:04:44] <agmlego> The 100MHz is the Quark onboard.
  • [22:04:48] <agmlego> There are three cores.
  • [22:04:48] <m_billybob> 100MHz FSB ?
  • [22:04:53] <m_billybob> ah
  • [22:04:55] <m_billybob> video ?
  • [22:05:02] <agmlego> Two x86 Atom cores, one Quark realtime processor.
  • [22:05:06] <agmlego> No.
  • [22:05:15] <m_billybob> somethign similar to a PRU ?
  • [22:05:16] <agmlego> The QUark is sort of Intel's PRU.
  • [22:05:32] <agmlego> The Galileo solely uses the Quark, at 400MHz, IIRC.
  • [22:06:12] <agmlego> Quark is an i586 architecture designed for low-power, low-performance things like IO maintenance and such, much like the PRU.
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  • [22:07:11] <m_billybob> been so busy with the BBB forgot to pull my head out of the sand to look around once in a while
  • [22:08:04] <agmlego> Heh.
  • [22:08:22] <agmlego> Yeah, I think it is going to be an interesting product, and maybe will shake up the SBC market.
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  • [22:16:16] <m_billybob> Intel has a way od disturbing the water around itself
  • [22:16:20] <m_billybob> of*
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  • [22:25:44] <m_billybob> Ok, i want one.
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