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  • [00:00:26] * Topic is 'http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs | never ask to ask, just ask | be patient | pastebin a boot log | http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg | BBB is being sold faster than produced. Order one and wait. There is no other way. | http://beagleboard.org/latest-images | http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101'
  • [00:00:26] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Fri Apr 18 13:56:18 UTC 2014
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  • [01:16:33] <mistawright> Hey guys i have been making some headway on a project with my beaglebone black. I ran into an issue where I would have a l298n hbridge driving a motor with speed control using a pwm pin and two gpio pins. I then would try to use a servo as well to operate an rc car. however when i set the duty of the servo my beaglebone black shuts off. what would cause this?
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  • [01:42:04] <mmattice> what are you powering the servo with?
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  • [02:42:54] <Guest97837> put in a request for a return of a BBB
  • [02:43:05] <Guest97837> when should i expect a reply?
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  • [04:14:28] <newsham> hi. anyone around?
  • [04:15:50] <newsham> on beagleboard (orig, revD), i deliver power via usb-otg port and uboot is on rs232/p9, right?
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  • [04:31:55] <newsham> so far i've been getting garbage on serial, no audio tone on audio-out
  • [04:32:19] <newsham> usr0 and usr1 do light up
  • [04:33:39] <newsham> pmu stat led also lights up
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  • [05:09:30] <Rotti> hi
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  • [10:50:17] <Abhisek> hi
  • [10:51:36] <Abhisek> i need to knw that can i use Matlab/Simulink on BeagleBone Black for image processing
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  • [10:56:51] <shah> how can i interface my webcam/digicam to beaglebone black using usb cable to capture image
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  • [11:55:23] <Laurenceb_> ok im very confused now
  • [11:55:33] <Laurenceb_> all my BBB board are "PCB revision B6"
  • [11:55:47] <Laurenceb_> is this actually revision C ?
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  • [13:20:04] <mistawright> hi guys i need some help. I had my beaglebone black powered from a l298n breakout and had it operating the h-bridge and controlling speed using a pwm pin. I then tried to get a servo working by connecting it to p9_14. I had the enable a from the h-bridge connected to p8_19. When I attempted to set the duty after setting the period my beaglebone black just shutdown. this happens everytime i do this. I have the servo gro
  • [13:20:04] <mistawright> unded and powered from the same h-bridge. do i need a ground directly between the servo and the beaglebone black?
  • [13:20:15] <mistawright> what could cause this behavior?
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  • [13:37:10] <pzn> how can I know if the BBB watchdog is enabled and running, or if it was disabled by some program? I have a running BBB with ssh access to it.
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  • [14:28:02] <w0lt> Can anyone tell me how to keep the NVC server going on a BeagleBone-Black? currently, after I disconnect, it won't allow me to reconnect. Thanks in advance !!
  • [14:28:20] <w0lt> That's VNC, not NVC.. :-)
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  • [15:00:37] <mistawright> unded and powered from the same h-bridge. do i need a ground directly between the servo and the beaglebone black? what could cause this behavior?
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  • [16:00:28] <elik> Hi, I'm using the beaglebone black with the debian distribution.
  • [16:00:44] <elik> I notice there are ttyO* and ttyS serial devices
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  • [16:00:57] <elik> When I enable an overlay, it creates the ttyO devices
  • [16:01:21] <elik> but by default, I have ttyS0 through ttyS3 created
  • [16:01:34] <elik> enabling UART2, I end up with a ttyO2 as well
  • [16:01:56] <elik> I know the omap serial driver uses the ttyO prefix from some kernel digging, but where do these ttyS come from?
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  • [16:04:15] <vagrantc> ttyS is a traditional serial interface
  • [16:04:25] <elik> right
  • [16:04:31] <elik> but to which hardware is it tied?
  • [16:05:11] <elik> on a side note, if someone can provide some insight as to why ttyO was used for omap serial ports, given they are fairly traditional serial interfaces
  • [16:11:57] <LetoThe2nd> elik: thats just because many of the UART ip peripherals on arm socs started out with other suffixes initially
  • [16:12:18] <LetoThe2nd> given they're not 8250 compliant (or what ever that classic one was)
  • [16:12:55] <LetoThe2nd> but in the end they provide comparable features to the userland, so they can also present themselves as standard ttyS*
  • [16:13:01] <elik> LetoThe2nd: ok, I though that all ports that tried to emulate that chip ended up as ttyS
  • [16:13:15] <elik> LetoThe2nd: are there plans in the future to change the name back to ttyS?
  • [16:14:07] <LetoThe2nd> elik: no idea. but most things like that can be configured to be ttyS* instead of their own suffix (omap should, atmel can, have not used others so far.)
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  • [16:14:22] <elik> LetoThe2nd: through udev?
  • [16:14:37] <LetoThe2nd> elik: no, kernel config.
  • [16:14:38] <elik> LetoThe2nd: or as module options
  • [16:14:43] <elik> ok
  • [16:14:57] <LetoThe2nd> elik: just check the respective drivers
  • [16:15:01] <elik> LetoThe2nd: and would you happen to know about those ttyS devices I see?
  • [16:15:16] <LetoThe2nd> elik: not in your particular case, sorry.
  • [16:16:02] <elik> alright, thx for the info LetoThe2nd!
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  • [16:36:50] <leiflindholm> Is there any public documentation/description/source code of the ROM code which loads MLO on BeagleBone Black?
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  • [16:50:49] <elik> leiflindholm: what loads the MLO is burned inside the AM335x, and I don't think that source code is available
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  • [16:51:16] <elik> leiflindholm: that being said, it's documented in the datasheet, under the boot sequence
  • [16:51:23] <leiflindholm> elik: I didn't think so, but I figured it was worth asking :)
  • [16:51:40] <leiflindholm> elik: yeah, but it's quite high-level blocks and arrows
  • [16:52:23] <elik> leiflindholm: that's to my knowledge, I'm not a reference by any mean :)
  • [16:52:40] <leiflindholm> elik: still appreciated, thanks
  • [16:52:49] <elik> leiflindholm: high level, but usually sufficient given the interface is fairly clear cut (do some setup, jump to address)
  • [16:53:00] <elik> leiflindholm: why were you looking for it anyway?
  • [16:53:15] <elik> issue with a boot mode?
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  • [16:54:32] <leiflindholm> well, I have a GSoC student doing a UEFI port, and I just wanted to look into how far back we could take the port if we wanted it to
  • [16:54:49] <leiflindholm> currently loading a UEFI image called u-boot.bin onto the MMC :)
  • [16:55:19] <leiflindholm> so I was a bit curious as to what the boot ROM does for the boot from MMC option
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  • [16:55:34] <leiflindholm> and if that could ever be compatible with GPT partitioning
  • [16:56:23] <mistawright> hi guys is there any reason why using the beaglebone black to control an l298n and a servo would cause the beaglebone black to shutdown? I am able to get the motor going and but when i try to set the duty of the servo it shuts down
  • [16:56:45] <leiflindholm> elik: ^^
  • [16:57:50] <tbr> leiflindholm: it's pretty hardwired for FAT, unless you use its raw device option, then it expects MLO at a fixed offset
  • [16:58:24] <leiflindholm> tbr: oh, that sounds intriguing
  • [16:58:33] <leiflindholm> tbr: the fixed offset
  • [16:58:41] <tbr> that should be in the TRM
  • [16:58:50] <leiflindholm> tbr: did I miss that in the TRM? bah, need new glasses
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  • [17:00:02] <elik> leiflindholm: interesting project
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  • [17:00:05] <leiflindholm> tbr: found it - much obliged
  • [17:00:11] <tbr> :)
  • [17:00:45] <leiflindholm> and if I keep the number of partitions low, it should be doable...
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  • [17:01:00] * vagrantc hasn't had much luck with MLO at offset
  • [17:01:43] * leiflindholm runs away and plays with that idea anyway
  • [17:01:53] <tbr> leiflindholm: keep in mind that it's very space constrained
  • [17:02:14] <vagrantc> leiflindholm: would be really interested how it goes
  • [17:02:22] <leiflindholm> tbr: oh yeah - it would have to be a minimal trampolie thing
  • [17:02:29] <leiflindholm> trampoline
  • [17:02:33] <tbr> MLO IIRC runs in some crazy small SRAM as it needs to set up DDR3 etc
  • [17:02:42] <leiflindholm> (much like MLO)
  • [17:02:59] <leiflindholm> "The boot image is downloaded directly into internal RAM at the location 0x402F0400 on GP devices. The
  • [17:03:02] <leiflindholm> maximum size of downloaded image is 109 KB.
  • [17:03:04] <leiflindholm> "
  • [17:03:07] <leiflindholm> so, yeah
  • [17:03:15] * leiflindholm really runs away, has a bus to catch
  • [17:03:22] <tbr> :)
  • [17:05:57] <elik> Posted that earlier, but does anybody know what hardware ttyS is bound to, on the debian image that comes with bbb
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  • [17:06:49] <pzn> USB-OTG is the big-usb connector or the mini-usb?
  • [17:07:39] <tbr> pzn: essentially both, what are you trying?
  • [17:08:03] <tbr> elik: ttyOx not S?
  • [17:08:26] <elik> tbr: I know ttyO* are tied to uarts, but I have ttyS0 through ttyS3
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  • [17:09:55] <pzn> tbr, I'm experiencing random reboots, going from hourly to weekly intervals. found a mailing list discussion about disabling the usb-otg to try to fix this reboots
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  • [17:10:35] <pzn> tbr, what I have is powered by the 5V plug, and using the big-usb connector for pluging a 3G-modem
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  • [17:11:07] <tbr> if you want to use the modem, no way to get rid of musb
  • [17:11:13] <pzn> tbr, should I have this "USB-OTG" feature enabled to be able to use an usb-modem?
  • [17:11:31] <pzn> tbr, sorry... what is "musb"?
  • [17:12:02] <tbr> elik: no idea if the kernel does anything with those, check with userspace tools
  • [17:12:39] <tbr> pzn: that's the USB IP core providing both USB ports
  • [17:13:00] <pzn> tbr, and what is usb-otg?
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  • [17:13:04] <elik> tbr: not sure which tools I can use to investigate further
  • [17:13:39] <tbr> pzn: a standard
  • [17:13:55] <Nitin_> hi
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  • [17:14:40] <pzn> tbr, ok, got it. just didnt understand what usb is related to IP... did you mean the IP networking? when you said "USB IP core"... I just use the uart-over-usb thing, nothing related to IP
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  • [17:19:59] <tbr> pzn: IntellectualProperty-core a subsystem of a System on a Chip
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  • [17:24:56] <pzn> tbr, ok, got it
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  • [17:51:36] <mistawright> can anyone help me with my problem? I am at a lost. i had been making progress and beginning to really enjoy my beaglebone black
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  • [17:57:39] <vagrantc> mistawright: you might want to describe your problem, then people will know if they can help
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  • [18:27:05] <mistawright> vagrantc, I have. been in here since morning. But the issue I ran into. I am powering my beaglebone black from a volt pin on my h-bridge breakout and also a servo from another 5 volt pin. I am able to get the motor started fine. when I set the duty of the servo the beaglebone black shuts down. I only have the signal pin connected to the beaglebone black from the servo. So I am not sure if it is wiring or something else
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  • [18:31:31] <Humpelstilzchen> mistawright: use a separate power source
  • [18:31:35] * vagrantc would only make wild guesses that there's a significant power drop for some reason...
  • [18:34:02] <mistawright> everything is powered through the hbridge which is powered through a 3 cell lipo
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  • [18:35:43] <mistawright> this is the hbridge: http://www.vetco.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=14337&gclid=Cj0KEQjw3vyeBRDt673h5ZTYrdQBEiQAzhkf8kuSV6rNjAZ6tTugTy-xIQG1pPgZIqmdGeVIah1dkXwaAhfs8P8HAQ
  • [18:36:02] <Humpelstilzchen> L298 .o0()
  • [18:36:23] <Humpelstilzchen> uhm
  • [18:36:36] <Humpelstilzchen> Onboard 5-Volt DC Regulator (A jumper selects between external 5-Volt power or the onboard 5-volt regulator.) <--you are using this one to power your beagle?
  • [18:36:37] <mistawright> Humpelstilzchen, would you recommend something better? didnt want to drop as much on a motor cape as i did the beaglebone
  • [18:36:50] <mistawright> yeah on board
  • [18:37:07] <Humpelstilzchen> L298 is so last century...well the Arduino people seem to like it anyway
  • [18:37:15] <mistawright> also attempting to power the servo from a 5 volt pin
  • [18:37:39] <mistawright> what would you suggest. I want something that can deliver more punch to my motors without all the heat that i have noticed on this thing
  • [18:37:56] <Humpelstilzchen> mistawright: the onboard is probably for low current consumers
  • [18:38:10] <Humpelstilzchen> use a separate 5V supply
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  • [18:43:08] <mistawright> this should be fun. thanks for the helps guys
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  • [18:52:17] <mistawright> Humpelstilzchen, forgot to ask, what would be a better h bridge/breakout to use over the l298n
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  • [18:56:27] <Humpelstilzchen> mistawright: depends on what you need
  • [18:56:55] <Humpelstilzchen> mistawright: you can check some sites like pololu.com for available boards
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  • [19:17:35] <mistawright> thanks again
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  • [19:47:21] <tbr> pololu makes decent stuff
  • [19:47:47] <tbr> just to be sure I'd use two separate regulators.
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  • [19:57:02] <mistawright> i'll keep that in mind. hoping to have this car controlled by my beaglebone black so i can get to figuring out how to control it
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  • [20:03:54] <leiflindholm> tbr: (since vagrantc seems to have gone offline) it works! wrote MLO to 128K offset (as per 26.1.7.5.5), pressed button at power-on and it starts telling me I'm a very bad person on the console
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  • [20:04:22] <leiflindholm> with my home-built u-boot version ID in the message
  • [20:04:58] <leiflindholm> elik: ^^
  • [20:05:02] <paddy> hi !!
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  • [20:06:30] <leiflindholm> and actually, since it scans with a 128K stride, I can fit as many GPT partitions on there as I want to
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  • [20:30:55] <tbr> leiflindholm: glad you figured it out for yourself
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  • [20:32:52] <leiflindholm> tbr: thanks for mentioning "raw" mode
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  • [21:22:54] <elik> leiflindholm: nice :)
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  • [21:35:25] <newsham> hi. i just got a bealgeboard (rev D). i have it hooked up to serial with a usb/serial converter. i'm using a 5v power supply to power it. when i poewr it up, i'm only getting noise on serial line (at 115200)
  • [21:35:53] <newsham> if i udnerstand correctly, uboot should be coming up during boot on the serial line, right?
  • [21:36:03] <newsham> (even without an sdcard installed in it)
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  • [22:39:31] <newsham> hmm.. the beagleboard's serial is +-15v not 0/3.3v?
  • [22:39:50] <veremit> rs-232 is rs232
  • [22:39:54] <veremit> uart is ttl
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  • [22:41:14] <newsham> this port connects directly to an rs232 port on a pc according to the refman
  • [22:42:11] <veremit> 9pin D-type is usually idle -ve active +ve
  • [22:42:23] <veremit> headers are 3v3 ttl
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  • [22:43:47] <newsham> hmm i get -5.66v on Tx on the p9 header
  • [22:44:22] <newsham> (pin 3)
  • [22:45:14] <veremit> yea if its got a driver chip, that would be likely
  • [22:45:48] <veremit> if you scope it, will probably swing to +5.6v on data pulses
  • [22:46:15] <veremit> usually runs off a charge pump
  • [22:47:14] <newsham> dont have a scope
  • [22:47:31] <newsham> so this bboard wants rs232 not ttl uart?
  • [22:47:37] <newsham> maybe thats why my serial wasnt working
  • [22:47:52] <veremit> they're not compatible
  • [22:47:53] <veremit> ;)
  • [22:48:33] <newsham> i just assumed uart/ttl everyone does that (even bbone black)
  • [22:49:22] <veremit> if it comes direct from the processor, it will be ttl (+5v or +3v3 idle)
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  • [22:49:48] <veremit> if its come through a driver it will be inverted and negative. You'll beable to see if there's a driver chip
  • [22:49:52] <veremit> else you're reading somethign wrong.
  • [22:49:58] <veremit> be^able
  • [22:50:15] <veremit> Rx/Tx swap is a favourite
  • [22:50:28] <newsham> hah! eet works!
  • [22:50:40] <newsham> yah, this one wants rs232 not ttl/uart
  • [22:51:03] <veremit> it should be described in the System Reference Manual and/or wiki
  • [22:51:19] <veremit> the black is definitely TTL I can say that .. debug header and p8/p9 pins.
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  • [22:51:21] <newsham> yah, it doesnt really say much, but it does say to hook it to a pc serial port :)
  • [22:51:30] <newsham> yah i just hooked up a black 15min ago.. worked fine ttl
  • [22:51:35] <veremit> but it doesn't have any D-type connectors , which is the easy give-away
  • [22:52:02] <newsham> the beagleboard doesnt have a d connector either.. its on a 2x5 header
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  • [22:52:16] <veremit> oh so its like a PC motherboard then probably
  • [22:52:24] <veremit> they often have a 2x5
  • [22:52:43] <newsham> they say to use a ribbon-to-D cable
  • [22:53:58] <veremit> there ya go .. enough hints I would say ;)
  • [22:54:15] <newsham> yah but subtlety and specs arent the best mates :(
  • [22:54:35] <veremit> rtfm ;) lol
  • [22:55:16] <newsham> i did, many times :(
  • [22:55:25] <newsham> was getting close to returning it.. thats why i wanted to check here first
  • [22:55:41] <newsham> not that it helped.. nobody suggested the problem :(
  • [22:56:05] <veremit> well .. if you had a meter, scope .. its not hard to figure out .. :P
  • [22:56:25] <veremit> as long as you know what you're looking for/at
  • [22:58:35] <newsham> all's well that ends well.. cheers
  • [22:58:59] <veremit> welcome :)
  • [22:59:28] <veremit> I like easy problems :D
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  • [22:59:54] <veremit> although .. with 2 other engineers .. nailed a video capture issue last night betwwen 10pm -3am :D
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  • [23:58:23] <Sargun> net_adm:ping('bar@instance-2.c.rugged-nimbus-611.internal.').
  • [23:58:23] <Sargun> er
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