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  • [00:50:58] <kleewyck> I'm stuck. I'm trying to attach a USB serial dongle to my beagle bone as I have a device that needs a serial and I can't for the life of me get it to show up. I have tried 3 different USB async devices all that work on a raspberry pi but none of them seem to show up on the BBB. Where can I look to find the issue?
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  • [00:54:29] <Jarrett_> yikes, need a linux guy
  • [00:54:49] <kleewyck> Jarrett_ I might be able to help
  • [00:55:17] <Jarrett_> @kleewyck awe great, i got it to work but took a while
  • [00:55:43] <Jarrett_> my question was around making a source code make satisfy deb dependencies
  • [00:55:44] <kleewyck> :)
  • [00:55:57] <kleewyck> oh no Dependency issues !!!
  • [00:56:13] <Jarrett_> yea, i was playing with aptitude
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  • [00:57:04] <Jarrett_> any, BBB is running HomeGenie now
  • [00:57:13] <kleewyck> I'm stuck on why I can't get usb serial dongle to work .. :(
  • [00:57:21] <Jarrett_> next step is to control zwave lights
  • [00:57:22] <vagrantc> kleewyck: powered usb hub with your serial dongles?
  • [00:57:41] <kleewyck> yes
  • [00:57:52] <Jarrett_> also, hate to ask but did you turn it off and back on again?
  • [00:58:04] <Jarrett_> i have to do that for ethernet sometimes
  • [00:58:23] <kleewyck> Have a hub with a USB serial and sound dongle. The Sound is seen
  • [00:58:23] <vagrantc> kleewyck: plugged in before powering it on?
  • [00:58:51] <kleewyck> Have tried 3 different USB serial dongles all work on the raspberry pi. All have had reboots and power cycles.
  • [00:58:52] <vagrantc> usb on the BBB is sometimes finicky.
  • [00:59:09] <vagrantc> kleewyck: not just power cycle, but a cold boot?
  • [00:59:35] <kleewyck> how is a cold boot different then power everything down and restart?
  • [00:59:51] <kleewyck> I might be doing something wrong here is why I ask.
  • [01:00:06] <kleewyck> if I execute unix halt ?
  • [01:00:08] <Jarrett_> plug and play? what does the scan say? dmesg?
  • [01:00:24] <vagrantc> kleewyck: because the actual hardware doesn't necessarily fully shut down...
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  • [01:00:36] <vagrantc> kleewyck: it's not hard to try it.
  • [01:00:41] <kleewyck> dlgover@kc9zmy:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
  • [01:00:50] <kleewyck> ls usb sees both the Sound and serial
  • [01:01:23] <vagrantc> kleewyck: no /dev/ttyUSB0?
  • [01:02:07] <kleewyck> Well there is /dev/ttyUSB0 but that's attached to the network. shouldn't I see /dev/ttyUSB1 Also ?
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  • [01:03:09] <vagrantc> you've got serial networking?
  • [01:03:58] <kleewyck> it came with that.
  • [01:04:38] <vagrantc> i don't think the usb networking uses /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [01:05:19] <kleewyck> usb0 1500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 BMU
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  • [01:06:19] <kleewyck> cu -l /dev/ttyUSB0 cu: open (/dev/ttyUSB0): Permission denied cu: /dev/ttyUSB0: Line in use
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  • [01:08:56] <kleewyck> do I need to do something with the device compiler tree here?
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  • [01:16:26] <vagrantc> hrm. i'm not running a kernel that supports usb well at all...
  • [01:17:30] <kleewyck> My BBB booted up and right of the bat I could ssh 192.168.7.2 though the USB serial
  • [01:17:40] * vagrantc reboots with the kernel shipped.
  • [01:19:43] <vagrantc> so, running 3.8.13-bone50 for a kernel, i get a usb0 network interface, but no /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [01:20:18] * vagrantc rummages around for a usb dongle
  • [01:20:24] <Jarrett_> hum
  • [01:20:46] <Jarrett_> you using usb wifi?
  • [01:21:41] <vagrantc> no, usb serial, to try and see if i can reproduce kleewyck's issue
  • [01:22:21] <thurgood> through otg?
  • [01:22:50] <kleewyck> no usb wifi
  • [01:23:39] <thurgood> no wlan?
  • [01:23:50] <vagrantc> kleewyck: so i got a working ttyUSB0 serial interface...
  • [01:24:15] <kleewyck> Hummm more to this then meets the eye maybe
  • [01:24:34] <vagrantc> kleewyck: user in the dialout group?
  • [01:24:39] <vagrantc> kleewyck: which OS you running?
  • [01:24:46] <Jarrett_> i need help with usb wifi
  • [01:25:22] <vagrantc> Jarrett_: powered USB hub?
  • [01:25:48] <Jarrett_> vagrantc: yep
  • [01:26:09] <Jarrett_> although, might be a dead usb plug, the metal shield was bent
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  • [01:26:24] <Jarrett_> not seeing int windows either
  • [01:27:19] <Jarrett_> which usb wifi adapter do you recommend on amazon prime?
  • [01:27:21] <vagrantc> Jarrett_: most usb wifi require firmware to be installed
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  • [01:27:36] <kleewyck> wait I might shook this up ..
  • [01:29:12] <kleewyck> maybe just booting again..
  • [01:29:29] <Jarrett_> Compact USB Wi-Fi Adapter with 4" Antenna for BeagleBone Black
  • [01:29:29] <Jarrett_> by Logic Supply?
  • [01:33:43] <kleewyck> OMG It;s working.. I don't know what I was doing wrong before...
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  • [01:34:53] <Jarrett_> NICE!
  • [01:35:53] <Jarrett_> so i guess i can always hook a head and keyboard/mouse up to this thing and use it without internet
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  • [01:49:25] <replcated> Are there any closed source bits in the BBB drivers?
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  • [02:04:01] <thurgood> firmware are largely blobs rather than source
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  • [02:16:25] <replcated> thurgood: Thanks, that was part of what I was wondering.
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  • [03:47:41] <skypuppy> taptaptap Is this thing on?
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  • [03:48:43] <skypuppy> hi jp
  • [03:50:44] <skypuppy> hello anyone?
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  • [03:53:20] <skypuppy> hi yogi
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  • [04:10:17] <skypuppy> been fighting my BBB's for 3 weeks now. Grrrrr.
  • [04:12:26] <skypuppy> Finally switched to Debian, running on 16 Gb SD card and my Gawd at the bbb software they left off. MUCH worse than the Angstrom image. Had to download and install everything, except that I still don't have opkg available. <sigh>
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  • [04:13:47] <skypuppy> where might I find someone interested in discussing this, please?
  • [04:14:33] <skypuppy> poof
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  • [04:15:40] <raman> hello
  • [04:18:09] <chainsawbike> hi
  • [04:19:07] <raman> hi
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  • [04:35:22] <vagrantc> no opkg. heh. will have to suffer through with the uh... limitations of apt.
  • [05:10:26] <The_Ball> haha, I think skypuppy did a "rage quit"
  • [05:16:07] <vagrantc> poor puppy.
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  • [05:29:37] <spike> i am using arago given by ti ,the RNDIS over usb device is not working any suggestions how to enable it.....
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  • [06:04:49] <spike> which kernel module corresponds to RNDIS service.....
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  • [06:13:47] <vvu> spike usb something would be, for the BBB it is gadget_multi
  • [06:14:04] <vvu> do not now rndis standalone, just this multi stuff that exports also a filesystem
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  • [06:22:25] <spike> thnks vvu ....
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  • [06:51:20] <aurelien> hi #beagle!
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  • [06:51:39] <aurelien> trying to install pip install explauto does not fit
  • [06:52:04] <aurelien> i have also tried from source https://github.com/flowersteam/explauto
  • [06:52:25] <aurelien> then python setup.py and get /usr/lib/python3.4/distutils/dist.py:260: UserWarning: Unknown distribution option: 'extra_require
  • [06:52:42] <aurelien> so i hae tried pip install --upgrade setuptools
  • [06:52:42] <aurelien> Requirement already up-to-date: setuptools in /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages
  • [06:52:42] <aurelien> Cleaning up...
  • [06:52:53] <aurelien> but it continue to give me the same error
  • [06:53:41] <aurelien> explauto is used for the https://github.com/poppy-project which is the robot http://www.poppy-project.org
  • [06:54:02] <aurelien> and could be usefull for #beagle
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  • [06:54:31] <aurelien> i will report the information to explauto, but is that the correct way?
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  • [06:57:00] <aurelien> https://github.com/flowersteam/explauto/issues/44
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  • [10:11:37] <spike> i am trying to get RNDIS working over usb ,i tried "insmod g_multi.ko/insmod g_ether.ko" got an error "no device found" when i did "cat /proc/driver/musb_hdrc" i got no file found any suggestion would be hiughly appreciated...
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  • [10:51:43] <chin> hello
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  • [10:52:22] <Guest31316> hello mythos
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  • [11:36:50] <tufugo> Hello everyone, I have a BB black and I want to send and receive some data using a serial connection. Can I use the UART0 ? Or is it already used for something else by default ? Thanks :)
  • [11:42:07] <tbr> tufugo: by default you'll find it bound to kernel console and a getty
  • [11:42:21] <tbr> and U-Boot prints to it during boot
  • [11:42:44] <tbr> you can disable those, but it might just be easier to use one of the others
  • [11:43:57] <tufugo> @tbr okay so I need to enable one of the others uart device so
  • [11:48:47] <tufugo> okay thanks, I was afraid I could not use the uart0 easily
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  • [11:50:30] <tufugo> by the way I enabled the uart1, how can I send and receive data with this one ? :s I'm not familiar with this
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  • [12:04:07] <chin> hello everyone
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  • [12:05:54] <Guest71311> I am unable to download the 'socket.io' library required for web interface. Any idea how to proceed
  • [12:05:56] <Guest71311> ?
  • [12:08:30] <tbr> tufugo: it is just a regular Linux UART aka /dev/tty...
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  • [12:15:49] <Guest71311> but my html code doesn't work without it..
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  • [12:59:09] <tufugo> @tbr yeah but that's the point, I never used /dev/tty in a soft implementation :/
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  • [14:02:01] <rst256> hello. Question about BeagleBone Black, I can simultaneously connect LSD screen and something to SPI and I2C ports?
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  • [14:49:46] <zmatt> rst256: hmm, I've once had that my LCD screen turned into something more appropriately called an LSD screen, but I'd been awake for way too long
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  • [14:57:14] <zmatt> rst256: and which things can be used at the same time can ultimately be derived from the expansion header table in the system reference manual
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  • [14:58:59] <zmatt> the lcd pins don't seem to conflict with the pins of any I2C or SPI controller as far as I can see
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  • [15:01:52] <zmatt> you'd need to check which pins are occupied by the LCD cape you have in mind of course
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  • [15:09:24] <zmatt> rst256: the LCD signals themselves are entirely non-overlapping with I2C and SPI, but LCD capes may also have some physical buttons connected to pins which may conflict with some of the I2C/SPI possibilities (though simply not pressing those buttons is a workaround of course)
  • [15:12:11] <rst256> zmatt: thank you. do not understand immediately, of course lcd and spi pins never will coincide.
  • [15:12:21] <zmatt> that's no 'of course'
  • [15:12:26] <zmatt> most pins are multi-function
  • [15:12:55] <zmatt> look at chapter 7 of the beaglebone SRM
  • [15:13:34] <zmatt> each pin can have up to 8 different functions
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  • [15:16:10] <rst256> their protocols are too different. except that the power pin.
  • [15:16:12] <zmatt> the same info is also more elaborated at on http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Cape_Expansion_Headers
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  • [15:20:08] <zmatt> on that page you see for example that pins 17/18 of connector P9 can be used as I2C1, but they can alternatively be used as part of SPI0
  • [15:20:51] <zmatt> those are also completely different protocols but that doesn't matter: there are switches internal to the processor which (based on software configuration) will connect physical pins to different components within the processor
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  • [15:23:30] <rst256> yes, for your advice, I already checked this, as per http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Capes lcd pins placed in p8 only.
  • [15:24:12] <zmatt> yes, while SPI and I2C pins appear on P9, so LCD pins themselves are not a problem: but as I said, some capes may also use other pins, you need to check that
  • [15:24:54] <zmatt> (there are I think three LCD capes listed as compatible with the beaglebone black)
  • [15:26:16] <zmatt> I2C1 will normally always be accessible since it is used to query info from capes
  • [15:26:52] <zmatt> so you can also put additional I2C devices on it (as long as there's no address conflict)
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  • [15:29:45] <ati> hi there
  • [15:30:55] <ati> I am a beginner, any body know where I can find the schematics of the BeagleBone?
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  • [15:33:33] <zmatt> http://bit.ly/1ls3OpH
  • [15:34:53] <zmatt> contains direct links to the original (non-black) schematics, and a link to a wiki page with direct links to the schematics for all beaglebone black revisions
  • [15:34:59] <zmatt> :P
  • [15:35:01] <H-H-H> they are linked to on the getting started
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  • [15:37:15] <rst256> try http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone. And use search string on rigth top in this page
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  • [17:14:18] <VoltVisionSteve> has anyone else gotten eQep0 to work? (I know people have recently gotten eQep2alt to work).
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  • [17:50:31] <Paul_> hello
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  • [17:50:52] <Paul_> is there anyone i can talk to
  • [17:51:07] <myself> we could spin up an eliza bot if you just want to chat
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  • [17:51:20] <Paul_> how do i do it
  • [17:51:23] <myself> but reading the /topic is advised
  • [17:52:11] <Paul_> hello
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  • [19:10:51] <drgrid> Does the beagle board black, rev C, ship with a default ethernet address, and does it ship with ethernet enabled?
  • [19:11:09] <vagrantc> ethernet defaults to dhcp
  • [19:11:12] <_av500_> ethernet should be enabled
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  • [19:12:39] <drgrid> Thanks, then I should be able to attach to my network, and have the DHCP server assign an address, and go from there.
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  • [19:42:44] <_av500_> yes
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  • [19:48:02] <woglinde> gm av500
  • [19:48:28] <woglinde> hm that reminds me to look for travel and hotel for elce
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  • [19:59:18] <Paul> hello there, may i ask a question?
  • [19:59:58] <Paul> I am new to the BBB, just received it today, And it cannot boot from USB
  • [20:00:17] <woglinde> boot from sd
  • [20:00:23] <woglinde> as everyone
  • [20:00:59] <Paul> I think I did something to erase the content in the eMMC
  • [20:01:07] <veremit> boot from USB, never known that to be a feature!
  • [20:01:31] <woglinde> eMMC is not the sdcard
  • [20:01:34] <veremit> boot via serial debug, sure .. but that takes a while to download an image :)
  • [20:01:42] <Paul> I meant that I could not connect the BBB to the USB of my computer
  • [20:01:51] <veremit> cable broke?
  • [20:01:51] <woglinde> veremit hehe 115200 atleast
  • [20:01:52] <veremit> :)
  • [20:02:08] <Paul> cable is fine
  • [20:02:09] <woglinde> hm I gues he has windows
  • [20:02:23] <veremit> why the hell the Beagle foundation promote the USB connection is waaaay beyond me
  • [20:02:31] <veremit> plug the damn thing into an ethernet cable and SSH in
  • [20:02:32] <veremit> Simple.
  • [20:02:43] <veremit> DC power jack .. forget the USB
  • [20:02:48] <woglinde> hm he deleted the emmc
  • [20:02:49] <Paul> the board is BBB Black
  • [20:03:00] <woglinde> serial cable is a must
  • [20:03:13] <woglinde> as always when you do embedded stuff
  • [20:03:41] <jkridner> veremit: I push USB cable for people for 2 reasons: avoids needing to understand how to setup a network and reduces the cables I need to travel and develop
  • [20:03:52] <Paul> woglinde, how do i restore things in emmc?
  • [20:03:53] <veremit> Paul .. download an eMMC flasher image .. burn it to a uSD card .. place inside your BBB, hold the button next to the uSD slot, and power up the Beagle whilst HOLDING the button until all FOUR leds illuminate briefly
  • [20:03:56] <jkridner> veremit: that said, an Ethernet cross-over or Ethernet switch work great.
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  • [20:04:30] <veremit> Then, wait until all four leds illuminate permanently, remove power, and re-apply.
  • [20:05:00] <veremit> this WILL take some time .. go have a beer/coffee/favourite beverage
  • [20:05:21] <veremit> or better still, make a coffee before you start :)
  • [20:05:40] <veremit> jkridner .. yes, the principle/idea is great .. pity the underlying technology is riddled with issues :)
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  • [20:06:13] <jkridner> works nicely for me. what issues?
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  • [20:06:25] <jkridner> veremit: the new flasher turns the LEDs off, rather than freezing them on.
  • [20:06:36] <veremit> jkridner .. maybe a detailed FAQ walk-through of issues published on the Beagle site would help those most frequently experienced issues, eg. drivers in winDoze.
  • [20:06:37] <jkridner> veremit: it is a side-effect of automatically shutting down when done.
  • [20:06:43] <veremit> oh .. it shuts down now
  • [20:06:48] <Paul> thank you vermit, I did all that and it seems that I reased something preloaded inside emmc
  • [20:06:56] <jkridner> windows drivers are indeed an issue.
  • [20:07:04] <veremit> last one I did .. it just stopped
  • [20:07:15] <veremit> I manually shut down .. but I figured it didn't really matter :)
  • [20:07:16] <jkridner> I *just* got the BeagleBoard.org Foundation driver signing certificate about 10 minutes ago.
  • [20:07:26] <veremit> OoooOOOOOOOooooo
  • [20:07:34] <veremit> congrats!
  • [20:07:34] <jkridner> Installing the Windows SDK now.
  • [20:07:40] <veremit> lol fun stuff
  • [20:08:10] <veremit> even under linux yo uhave to have the right kernel drivers .. not all distro's do out-the-box .. and then you gotta recompile a kernel .. its just quite unfriendly.
  • [20:08:34] <veremit> everyone these days has a network .. (regrettably too often wireless)
  • [20:09:11] <_av500_> thats why BBB must have onboard wifi
  • [20:09:15] <_av500_> or even better, 3G
  • [20:09:25] <_av500_> use your BBB before you even have it
  • [20:09:37] <veremit> _av500_ .. looking forward to that edition ;)
  • [20:09:49] <veremit> for the Wifi .. already havea dual=core Wandboard ;)
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  • [20:10:20] <alexanderhiam> ok, cloud9 headache, the package.json file on my bone with the latest debian image says version 3.0.1, but the last tag on https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9 is v2.0.93... am I looking at the wrong repo??
  • [20:12:29] <alexanderhiam> oh wait, maybe it matches one of the million branches...
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  • [20:13:55] <alexanderhiam> jkridner: is the bone's cloud9 built from a separate fork of ajaxorg's?
  • [20:14:06] <jkridner> yes
  • [20:14:42] <alexanderhiam> ah, that explains it
  • [20:15:03] <alexanderhiam> jkridner: where abouts is that?
  • [20:15:19] <jkridner> private repo that will be open "any day"(tm)
  • [20:15:28] <jkridner> so, you pretty much need to pull the tarball.
  • [20:15:31] <veremit> lol
  • [20:15:36] <veremit> Soon(tm)
  • [20:16:24] <alexanderhiam> well in that case I have a bug just for you ;)
  • [20:16:45] <veremit> submit to tracker :P~
  • [20:16:46] <veremit> lol
  • [20:16:57] <veremit> or email the *cough* mailling-list .. too many of those still exist lol
  • [20:17:17] <alexanderhiam> is there a beaglebone bug tracker out there somewhere?
  • [20:17:35] <alexanderhiam> aside from the mailing list that is
  • [20:17:42] <jkridner> yes, bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases
  • [20:18:02] <alexanderhiam> nice!
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  • [20:18:11] <alexanderhiam> and only 6 open!
  • [20:19:43] <alexanderhiam> though this one might warrant some discussion on the mailing list...
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  • [21:34:07] <shay_shay> hey
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  • [21:35:08] <shay_shay> question. beagle bone can vonnect to a computer as if it were a usb ethernet adapter. is that something which is built into the hardware? or can a similar thing be acomplished between two PCs?
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  • [23:05:22] <Khalos> Hey there, wondering if anyone has had success deploying a LabView program to their Beaglebone?
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  • [23:09:41] <ds2> got a spare 10-20K to toss around?
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  • [23:13:32] <Khalos> ds2, I'll take that as a no. I presume you are reffering to the NI Labview C Generator?
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  • [23:14:39] <ds2> yes
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  • [23:59:58] <MrYaah> hello, whats the best way to run the beaglebone-black-g-ether-load.sh script on boot from http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/beaglebone+black#BeagleBoneBlack-usbgadget