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[00:00:27] * Topic is 'http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs | never ask to ask, just ask | be patient | pastebin a boot log | http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg | BBB is being sold faster than produced. Order one and wait. There is no other way. | http://beagleboard.org/latest-images | http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101'
[00:00:27] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Fri Apr 18 13:56:18 UTC 2014
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[00:02:22] <dohb> hi, i want to ask a question about bonescript
[00:02:33] <dohb> does beagleboard xm support bonescript?
[00:03:17] <dohb> i cant find any documentation on the net
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[02:26:24] <dogrocket> anyone worked with alsa soc to connect to a codec on bbb?
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[02:31:15] <calculus> is https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel now the canonical place for the kernel?
[02:31:33] <calculus> I have been normally using the linux-dev git repo
[02:34:05] <ds2> bah
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[03:18:29] <bugsly> anyone here using the RAW boot option for AM335x on BBB (instead of MLO from FAT)?
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[03:34:06] <bugsly> no takers?
[03:34:37] <bugsly> perhaps you can direct me to a more appropriate forum if no?
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[04:16:11] <_av500_> raw like sushi
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[04:31:21] <ducati> Is beaglebone black has internal bootloader and ROM?
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[05:19:49] <av500> yes
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[06:28:28] <rahul_> I am getting into a issue BABLE INTRUPPT OCCUR any suggestion to resolve it
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[06:57:36] <nii> Hi everyone, I have a simple question, I have a BeagleBoard Black, I got the bash on my pc using puTTY, and I'd like to transfert files between my pc and the board, I can I do ? Thanks for answering :)
[06:58:14] <av500> zmodem
[06:58:22] <av500> or something like that over the UART
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[07:01:39] <nii> okay thanks av500, I'm checking how can I use the commands and I'll try
[07:02:54] <av500> or use the usb
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[07:02:56] <av500> or ethernet
[07:04:45] <nii> I can't find the USB in /dev, should it be in /dev/sdax ? Because It doesn't exist (while I'm using the USB with PuTTY)
[07:05:27] <av500> BBB does usb ethernet as far as I know
[07:05:33] <tbr> just use network. SCP or such
[07:05:36] <av500> so you should be able to login
[07:05:44] <tbr> or as you are on wintendo: WinSCP
[07:05:44] <av500> and scp orso
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[07:07:11] <fzombie> I see Debian is the new default image, gotta say I'm happy about it.
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[07:11:47] <nii> I'll try with the WinSCP so :p hope it works
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[07:13:56] <nii> Oh that's nice, very easy to use
[07:14:02] <nii> thank you all ;)
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[07:30:36] <omar> hi
[07:30:50] <omar> people !
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[07:33:41] <omar> can any one help me ?
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[07:37:38] <trig> Can any one tell me how to learn more about kernel programming on beagle board
[07:38:56] <av500> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/lkmpg.html
[07:39:04] <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+kernel+programming
[07:39:20] <av500> BBB runs linux
[07:39:35] <av500> only a few things are specific to the beagle
[07:40:19] <trig> Thank you av500
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[07:40:58] <tbr> fast service :)
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[08:01:40] <fzombie> I'm getting packet loss with my known-working panda wireless usb dongle when used on my beaglebone black =(
[08:01:55] <fzombie> I have no idea what im doing when it comes to wifi as I've always had a plugged in machine
[08:02:46] <fzombie> 66% packet loss and ping 150 to 350
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[08:03:27] <fzombie> I'm using a 3000ma 5v power supply, but I wonder if the bbb fails to deliver enough power
[08:03:28] <woglinde> tbr yes he was lucky
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[08:09:18] <fzombie> finally got my wifi working with my beaglebone black. I've always been a plug-in wire guy but running out of ports on my router
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[08:12:27] <sachin> Hi All, I am trying to understand where does uSD MBR get read in mmc driver inside kernel. Any clue which file I should clue ?
[08:13:02] <av500> not at all
[08:13:10] <av500> the mmc driver does not care about the MBR
[08:13:22] <av500> it treats every block the same
[08:13:43] <av500> its the filesystem layer that reads the MBR
[08:13:55] <av500> looking for a partition table
[08:15:14] <sachin> Oh ok. Thanks a lot. So kernel doesnt read MBR. so it just mount mmcblk0 and then file system founds mmc so it checks MBR and then mount partition ? am I right > Please correct.
[08:15:37] <av500> the kernel does read mbr
[08:15:37] <woglinde> -> its the filesystem layer
[08:15:46] <av500> since the filesystem is a kernel thing
[08:15:52] <woglinde> filesystem layer is in the kernel
[08:15:59] <woglinde> its not hurd
[08:17:38] <sachin> Ok at what point file system trigger to read MBR like after mmc_bus_probe mmc drivers add disk and then it starts SD Command Flow
[08:18:32] <woglinde> out of curiosity why do you want to know it?
[08:19:46] <fzombie> wow all 3 wifi cards i try stop working after a while
[08:19:49] <woglinde> understanding the beagle bootprocess?
[08:19:49] <fzombie> i think my bbb is cursed
[08:19:59] <woglinde> fzombie usb?
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[08:20:03] <fzombie> ya
[08:20:11] <woglinde> hehe musb hell
[08:20:28] <fzombie> its the only usb device on the bbb
[08:20:28] <sachin> I wanted to check if my sd card is inserted, its partitions are mounted. out of that if my one partition is encrypted which I wanted to check by re reading MBR
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[08:21:37] <av500> cat /proc/partitions
[08:21:47] <woglinde> df -h
[08:22:14] <av500> im sure you can have some udev triggers on sd being mounted
[08:23:47] <sachin> cat /proc/partitions or df -h gives me list of paritions which are mounted. But I wanted to understand in kernel or file system where does this process happens
[08:23:58] <av500> well
[08:23:58] <woglinde> why?
[08:24:08] <av500> there are books about the linux kernel
[08:24:13] <av500> explaining all the subsystems
[08:24:22] <woglinde> they are to old
[08:24:28] <av500> reading MBR is older
[08:24:45] <sachin> Ok long path suggestion.
[08:25:11] <av500> linux/fs
[08:25:49] <sachin> Ok Cool. Thanks. I will go through it, will come up with good questions. Thanks for sharing knowledge.
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[08:26:35] <av500> block/ actually
[08:26:42] <av500> partition-generic.c
[08:27:43] <av500> unsigned char *read_dev_sector(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t n, Sector *p)
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[08:46:44] <Abhishek1> and has a "unibody aluminium extruded casing" :P
[08:47:08] <Abhishek1> oops, wrong channel :P
[08:47:46] <av500> you mean an Altoid tin?
[08:48:11] <foreverska> Those are extruded...
[08:48:27] <foreverska> Unless you are buying rich people Altoids
[08:49:29] <av500> I'm buying SMINTs
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[09:23:12] <sachin> If I have one partition in uSD card, If I umount /media/PART1. And then I have not physically removed uSD card. And did mount /dev/mmcblk0 /media/PART1. Will this trigger block device level re-initialization or MBR read again.
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[09:43:12] <av500> no
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[10:05:31] <__av500__> arf
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[10:45:31] <lee> does anybody know if ALL element14 BBBs have a 4GB eMMC?
[10:50:13] <sachin> @av500 : after your pointer to *read_dev_sector, I just browsed code in reverse to call and found that there is ioctl for BLKRRPART, which internally read MBR
[10:50:49] <sachin> I wrote one ioctl rest code for BLKRRPART and it works. It read MBR and every ioctl
[10:51:39] <sachin> but I am doing umount so looks I have to umount for sd card before executing test.
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[11:09:23] <andy___> q
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[11:31:47] <nii> Hi everyone, I try to understand how can I use a Debian img on a SDcard and boot my BeaggleBoard Black on it, WITHOUT flashing the eMMC (so I want to keep the angstrom system on it)
[11:32:37] <nii> I got this image of debian http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ (the one with the "Runs on BeagleBone Black as well without flashing the eMMC" indication)
[11:33:51] <nii> Is simply using win32 diskimager with my SDcard enough ?
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[11:36:10] <nii> Actually I don't know how to be sure the SDcard won't flash to the eMMC when I'll put in it
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[11:43:57] <Abhishek1> nii: if the image file name does not mention "flasher", then you are safe
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[12:08:04] <nii> Thanks you Abhishek1, I go for it :)
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[14:14:25] <aef> hey. how do i make my beaglebone black boot from MicroSD?
[14:14:48] <tbr> by holding down the button
[14:14:55] <tbr> or nuking MLO on the emmc
[14:15:07] <aef> which of the three buttons?
[14:15:22] <tbr> that's documented, did you try reading the docs?
[14:15:48] <aef> i was looking for docs about that, but didn't find anything specific
[14:15:58] <tbr> check the SRM
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[14:16:30] <aef> what is SRM?
[14:16:42] <tbr> system reference manual
[14:17:48] <aef> thanks. that looks promising
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[15:06:21] <fzombie> I'm having problems with wifi dropping out after a few minutes on one wifi device, and having wifi have massive packet loss and high ping >350ms problems on another. I'm wondering if anyone uses a wifi device and if so how is it set up?
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[15:08:25] <fzombie> or if there is a specific wifi device known to work well compared to others
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[15:09:14] <woglinde> fzombie again looks like musb problems and you cannt do anything against it
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[15:09:40] <fzombie> so every single wifi device will be problematic?
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[15:09:45] <woglinde> and of course problems in the wifi usb drivers
[15:09:52] <fzombie> i see people using wifi all the time on youtube
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[15:10:03] <woglinde> yes but not on arm
[15:10:14] <woglinde> and not on the beagle
[15:11:28] <fzombie> strange that so many people report using the bbb with wifi just fine
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[15:14:51] <fzombie> wifi is working 100% fantastic on the android image
[15:14:56] <fzombie> just not debian =(
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[15:55:18] <woglinde> fzombie than use the android kernel and the android wifi drivers
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[15:55:45] <woglinde> and disable binder and all the other android stuff
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[17:41:07] <SoFLy> I'm not asking if there is a way for it to speed up, but I am curious typically how long a customer waits for a BBB to show up after ordering
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[17:49:29] <_av500_> depends
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[18:15:59] <__butch__> Silly question time, since it's probably in a FAQ somewhere: Is there any way to manually re-enumerate the USB bus? I know hot plug works for shit, but can I manually force a device to be recognized?
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[18:54:30] <thurgood> other than rebooting?
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[19:10:54] <__butch__> Yes, other than rebooting. :-)
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[19:24:43] <thefinn93> is there a good headless image for the beaglebone black?
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[19:27:14] <woglinde> thefinn93 start with cloud and remove one package after another
[19:27:37] <thefinn93> cloud? is that the default?
[19:27:44] <woglinde> yes
[19:27:50] <thefinn93> okay
[19:29:29] <thefinn93> Configuring angstrom-gdm-autologin-hack.
[19:29:33] <thefinn93> found one package to go!
[19:29:42] <thefinn93> i plugged it in and ran updates...
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[20:00:37] <thefinn93> how do i open up ssh from the ethernet connection?
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[20:03:41] <ds2> very carefully
[20:04:03] <thefinn93> :/
[20:04:07] <thefinn93> what is blocking it?
[20:04:16] <thefinn93> i dont see anything in iptables or ssh_config
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[20:14:37] <thefinn93> oh hmm i restarted dropbear with eth0 plugged in, now i can ssh in through that
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[20:53:14] <diegochaverri26> Hi beagle board community
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[20:54:26] <diegochaverri26> I came here looking for some hints on how to build gstreamer and TI's plugins for the Beagle Board XM using Yocto
[20:55:06] <diegochaverri26> I found very few resources and Yocto for a newbie can become a headache...any hint is much appreciated. Thanks
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[21:31:49] <thurgood> diegochaverri26: does your distro have a package system.. I would suggest using it rather than building if you can
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[21:56:57] <diegochaverri26> thurgood: What do you mean by package system? I'm trying to using the poky dylan branch
[21:57:28] <thurgood> such as opkg, apt, etc
[21:59:13] <diegochaverri26> thurgood: Actually I need to build it to add some custom changes rather than using a package system
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[22:22:43] <EricW> Anyone know why there are no BeagleBone Blacks for sale from any retailer?
[22:24:29] <vagrantc> because demand is greater than supply
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[22:33:36] <nyt-> theyre rolling out, just gotta order from one of the main sources and wait
[22:35:35] <thefinn93> no munin node on cloud9?
[22:35:37] <thefinn93> :(
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[22:39:02] <nyt-> wat
[22:40:53] <thefinn93> trying to install munin-node on my beaglebone, but its not in the repos :(
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[23:05:26] <plm> Hi all
[23:06:19] <plm> just to clarify, now BBB will be release with debian instead angstrom?
[23:06:48] <mrpackethead> plm , yes, thats where its going
[23:06:51] <mrpackethead> but you can run debian now
[23:07:36] * thefinn93 gives up with angstrom - can i flash debian without a microSD card?
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[23:07:51] <thefinn93> maybe via flash drive?
[23:07:52] <plm> mrpackethead: ok. Why beagleboard changed angstrom by debian? Any special cause?
[23:09:23] <nyt-> because debian is better
[23:10:55] <thurgood> debian has a lot more devs and resources behind it anyway, not sure about better... that's mostly subjective
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[23:12:41] <mrpackethead> yes, you coudl argue the merits of each distro for years.
[23:13:02] <mrpackethead> angstrom has certain advantages for somethings.
[23:13:31] <mrpackethead> the hard core developers would probaby claim they can get an extra 5% of out of the systme
[23:13:49] <mrpackethead> however for the 95% of end users, debian is an easier proposition
[23:13:58] <thurgood> that 5% can be really important in embedded systems
[23:14:20] <mrpackethead> much much bigger 'community' of debian users.
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[23:14:37] <mrpackethead> yes, quite possibly that 5% is
[23:14:45] <mrpackethead> angstrom wont' die.
[23:14:50] <mrpackethead> and people will keep using it.
[23:15:06] <mrpackethead> you've got the choice to do what you want
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[23:16:45] <thurgood> android still doesn't appear ready for primetime on the bbb though :/
[23:18:51] <thurgood> no app store support, browser runs out of memory pretty quickly too
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[23:20:16] <thurgood> and nobody in the chat room :(
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[23:22:52] <foreverska> or they have nothing to say on that topic
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[23:29:56] <plm> all right!
[23:30:14] <plm> and about Ubuntu?
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[23:31:02] <plm> mrpackethead: nyt- ^
[23:31:34] <nyt-> ?
[23:31:44] <plm> I'm running ubuntu on bbb. Ubuntu has invested effort with images for omap3 omap4.
[23:32:02] <plm> But I see ubuntu a bit slow than angstrom in bbb
[23:32:17] <plm> may be debian will be faster than ubuntu
[23:32:30] <plm> s will be/is
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