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  • [01:51:21] <pzn> anyone had success in connecting a huawei 3g usb to BeagleBoneBlack?
  • [01:51:34] <pzn> I can connect with kernel 3.8.13 and 3.11.0
  • [01:52:01] <pzn> but the baudrate reaches incrible 9600bps :-) too dawn slow... any hints?
  • [01:52:14] <veremit> hmm funny .. I am gonna try that later this year
  • [01:52:28] <veremit> you've got it in modem mode
  • [01:52:43] <veremit> done the usb_modeswitch thingy?
  • [01:52:49] <pzn> using same ubuntu version/kernel/connect parameters at desktop computer, it reaches good speed
  • [01:52:53] <veremit> I thought it Just Worked.
  • [01:53:08] <veremit> on ppp
  • [01:53:21] <pzn> veremit, didn't do modeswitch in Beagle, and didn't do modeswitch on desktop. yes, I'm using ppp
  • [01:53:57] <veremit> I'm tryin to think whether I plugged it into debian .. guess I did once .. but its running on a standalone ARM wifi router thingy atm
  • [01:54:10] <veremit> gonna move it to my beagle so I can use SMS on it for usage notifications
  • [01:54:30] <veremit> I figured it just worked though ..
  • [01:54:44] <pzn> nice idea about SMS notification... do you think should I do modeswitch? when I plug, it already detects /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 and respond to AT commands normally
  • [01:54:49] <veremit> which one you got?
  • [01:54:53] <veremit> mine's the E173
  • [01:54:57] <pzn> huawei E156
  • [01:55:23] <pzn> but lsusb shows: 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E230/E270/E870 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
  • [01:55:50] <veremit> do update-pciids :)
  • [01:57:18] <pzn> veremit, do I need to apply something? unplugged -> update-pciids -> plugged. same text is shows
  • [01:58:37] <veremit> hmm can't remember the backend ..but the web front is kalkun :)
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  • [01:59:29] <veremit> debian/angstrom pzn?
  • [01:59:47] <pzn> veremit, I already saw kalkun. really nice! I friend runs it at my work
  • [02:00:01] <pzn> veremit, tried with debian and ubuntu
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  • [02:01:26] <new_user> hi, i am having a problem in booting the BBB with wince installed on the SD card using TI disk utility program
  • [02:01:40] <new_user> Can anybody help me please
  • [02:02:04] <veremit> you really want to run wince on a beagle?
  • [02:02:19] <veremit> really?
  • [02:02:32] <new_user> When i plug in the SD card and power up the board one the last three LED's get on
  • [02:02:48] <new_user> yes....i want to try installing wince
  • [02:03:49] <new_user> I have wince 6.0 with the help file indicating how to install wince..and have followed it exactly but get the same response...please help
  • [02:04:35] <veremit> pzn .. have you set up some options for ppp ? I can see a couple of posts with options & peers/chat files
  • [02:04:47] <veremit> but so far just for angstrom
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  • [02:05:05] <veremit> And I know it works for debian
  • [02:05:11] <veremit> have you got the right ttyUSB?
  • [02:05:43] <new_user> with armstrong it is working fine...i also updated with latest version by booting from sd card and it worked
  • [02:06:36] <new_user> when i place the SD card and power up the board , after some time only three last led's light up...
  • [02:06:57] <new_user> this was not the case with armstrong
  • [02:07:01] <veremit> new_user .. I'm not aware wince has configuration/drivers for the beagle.
  • [02:07:08] <pzn> veremit, it connects, ping, run for a long time (has been connected for about 2 hours). it is just too slow
  • [02:07:09] <veremit> but I could be wrong.
  • [02:07:26] <veremit> pzn .. at 9600 I would think so .. should be MUCH faster than that
  • [02:07:51] <pzn> veremit, I got a usbmon debug tool. it is showing that the peak speed in the usb port is 9600
  • [02:08:00] <new_user> ok....i will try that....but is there any error massage displayed by the three led's getting solid on
  • [02:08:15] <veremit> pzn .. can you pastebin your ppp/options?
  • [02:08:29] <pzn> veremit, 9600 is too slow... my first dial-up modem 10+ years ago was 14400 :-)
  • [02:08:33] <new_user> ok...wait let me see
  • [02:09:56] <pzn> veremit, http://pastebin.com/sVFz3hJP
  • [02:10:38] <veremit> pzn .. just reading this .. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd
  • [02:10:47] <veremit> all specify a baud rate
  • [02:11:24] <new_user> actually the problem is not with the serial port....i just cannot get the beaglebone boot up wih wince
  • [02:11:52] <new_user> bcause if that was the problem then how does it get booted with armstrong
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  • [02:19:15] <veremit> pzn .. not sure what role netcfg is playing in that Arch howto
  • [02:19:45] <pzn> veremit, reading your URL... reproducing in my hardware exactly how it is
  • [02:20:32] <veremit> I see lots of implementations with wvdial too :/
  • [02:20:39] <veremit> dunno what the merits of that are
  • [02:20:53] <veremit> also found .. http://gcolpart.evolix.net/blog21/sfr-huawei-3g-usb-key-with-debian/
  • [02:22:41] <veremit> omg the Pi abomination .. http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-as-a-3g-Huawei-E303-wireless-Edima/step1/Make-sure-the-Pi-can-see-the-3g-Dongle/
  • [02:22:50] <veremit> thats gonna be nasty lol
  • [02:23:40] <veremit> and good old sakis3g .. which you don't need .. imo.
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  • [02:25:14] <veremit> if you can figure out what settings ubuntu is using for ppp ..
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  • [02:38:59] <pzn> veremit, I don't know exactly why, but it worked!!!
  • [02:39:20] <veremit> hehe thought there must be something missing
  • [02:39:32] <veremit> hopefully I can make mine go easily too :)
  • [02:39:37] <pzn> but I did md5sum between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu BB
  • [02:40:01] <veremit> Gammu is the SMSd
  • [02:40:41] <pzn> veremit, weird, I'll check what was the reason tomorrow... I must take a break... working during 10 hours continously...
  • [02:40:56] <pzn> veremit, thank you very much on your help!!!
  • [02:40:57] <veremit> ouch yea
  • [02:40:59] <veremit> welcomes
  • [02:42:07] <pzn> veremit++
  • [02:42:12] <pzn> bye
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  • [03:09:07] <new_user> hi....i have tried win7ce and it worked...thanks anyway
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  • [03:14:57] <raspberrypifan> anyone selling a used beaglebone
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  • [03:26:51] <johnwalkr> raspberrypifan: there are $100 ones on amazon
  • [03:27:00] <raspberrypifan> thats ridiculous
  • [03:27:06] <raspberrypifan> the hardware was designed to sell at 45
  • [03:27:08] <raspberrypifan> i am not paying a cent more
  • [03:27:10] <raspberrypifan> its not worth it
  • [03:27:14] <raspberrypifan> or is it 35
  • [03:27:28] * veremit just laughs at raspberrypifan
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  • [03:27:35] <johnwalkr> 45, but rev C are more expensive..
  • [03:27:41] <johnwalkr> and any used one is also going to be $100
  • [03:27:42] <raspberrypifan> i dont want/need rev c
  • [03:31:24] <johnwalkr> any in stock, including used seem to be about $100 right now
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  • [03:32:32] <raspberrypifan> thats a huge failure of capitalism right there
  • [03:33:37] <johnwalkr> lol
  • [03:33:46] <Dan1> bwahahahaha
  • [03:34:15] <Dan1> its called supply and demand.... the cornerstone of capitalism
  • [03:34:52] <raspberrypifan> thats bad
  • [03:35:29] <Dan1> thats capitalisms
  • [03:36:00] <raspberrypifan> im a non capital
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  • [08:32:09] <varad> Is there a way to bridge my laptop's WiFi internet connection to a BBB connected over USB or Ethernet? brctl does not allow bridging wlan connections...
  • [08:35:04] <nyt-> yes
  • [08:36:52] <varad> nyt-: alright. what is it?
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  • [08:46:35] <nyt-> well what os are you using
  • [08:49:06] <varad> openSUSE (KDE) host
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  • [09:05:07] <nyt-> well bridging the interfaces doesnt automatically enable forwarding and such
  • [09:05:19] <nyt-> turn on forwarding and proxy arp and itshould work
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  • [09:55:32] <spessx> hi. did anyone tried to run a qt opengl application on bbb?
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  • [10:07:47] <Guest55914> hi i m new in arm linux. if i buy board then i required cross compiler , Uimage, linux kernel, etc all these item beagle will provide?. i am using ubuntu 12.4
  • [10:09:04] <Guest55914> beagle could provide any CD for that
  • [10:18:10] <tbr> yes it will work
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  • [10:31:40] <spessx> tbr: did you mean me?
  • [10:32:22] <tbr> spessx: both
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  • [10:33:42] <spessx> well, i'm trying to run the hellogl_es2 example since some days, but can't get it working. graphics sdk examples (evilskull, chameleonman, etc.) run like a charm.
  • [10:33:57] <spessx> just wanted to post to the google groups, but maybe you could help me right here?
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  • [11:09:30] <tbr> spessx: never done anything with the SGX/GLES stuff
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  • [11:11:59] <spessx> oh, no problem... it's driving me crazy. maybe anyone else could help me? here's my complete problem description: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/beagleboard/beaglebone-black/bZZ2Ly6FLFo
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  • [12:28:29] <Dennis_> Hi there
  • [12:29:54] <Dennis_> I currently try to get my BeagleBoard xM working with omap, but neither angstrom, nor ubuntu will work. Do you guys know any good tutorials that work on the current versions?
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  • [12:33:29] <XorA> Dennis_: github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall.git will make an ubuntu netinstall SD which will just work (tm)
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  • [12:35:17] <Dennis_> Thanks for your reply! I was able to get a fresh ubuntu 14.04 working. But my main problem is omap / sgx support. It just wont work
  • [12:36:34] <Dennis_> do you know if there where any changes made in this repo such that omap and sgx might work?
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  • [12:39:31] <tbr> Dennis_: sgx is a finnicky beast you might need to find some ancient image which works
  • [12:42:40] <Dennis_> what a pity, i thought that usually the plattform support enhances over time
  • [12:43:00] <tbr> not if it concerns unmaintained binary vendor blobs
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  • [12:43:51] <Dennis_> even the prebuild angstrom image on my board does not work. I tryed to install and start xbmc but it fails without any further debug messages
  • [12:44:16] <XorA> basically SGX is a lost cause
  • [12:44:30] <XorA> those who could do open source drivers cant because we have NDAs
  • [12:44:47] <Dennis_> and the newest version on the beagleboard websites is a 2012 version, which wont even connect to opkg repos anymore
  • [12:45:08] <Dennis_> damn :(
  • [12:47:11] <Dennis_> i found an image seeded by torrents. But there is only one seed left. Do you have any hints for me where i might find an old working image?
  • [12:48:07] <XorA> Dennis_: as soon as you upgrade though, SGX will break so you are stuck with old image forever
  • [12:50:25] <Dennis_> well... thats pretty bad news
  • [12:51:04] <XorA> Imagination Technology have zero interest in working with Linux community
  • [12:53:46] <Dennis_> what a shame. The Linux teams usually do awesome work
  • [12:54:31] <Dennis_> i have experimented with a via epia sn board years ago and they got even padlock AES encryption support working!
  • [12:54:52] <Dennis_> that litte beast did awesome performance :)
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  • [12:58:12] <Dennis_> Allright, Thanks for your information. I will bury this project then. Maybe i find any use for this board. At least the basic ubuntu versions are working =)
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  • [14:44:13] <pfsmorigo> hi, I got an old baeagleboard rev C4 and want to install an fresh linux on it. I follow some tutorials over the net but I'm stuck. No serial at all. I write ubuntu 12.04 in a SD card and booted holding USER but no progress, just a screen flash and then off. my first doubt is how I can see the serial output?
  • [14:44:26] <pfsmorigo> my minicon is 115200 8N1
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  • [14:45:23] <pfsmorigo> but it's "offline"
  • [14:46:07] <XorA> pfsmorigo: github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall.git should sort you out
  • [14:46:17] <XorA> as long as you have a USB network card
  • [14:47:13] <pfsmorigo> XorA: my board has a beaglebuddy zippy so there is a RJ45 there
  • [14:47:39] <pfsmorigo> XorA: do you know why my serial doesn't work?
  • [14:47:49] <XorA> pfsmorigo: I do not know if that u-boot/kernel combo support the zippy
  • [14:48:01] <XorA> pfsmorigo: that is normally a sign that your card is formatted wrong
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  • [15:16:19] <abnormal> Hi, anyone there??? I need help with my BBB
  • [15:16:41] <tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  • [15:17:07] <abnormal> k, I will look that up.. thx
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  • [15:19:17] <abnormal> thx. bye.
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  • [15:19:32] <tbr> lol?
  • [15:19:48] <veremit> hahaha
  • [15:19:59] <veremit> well if its that easy to filter the n00bs .. lol
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  • [15:46:08] <rooted> hello , how can i install xchat on beaglebone black - angestorm ?
  • [15:46:44] <veremit> apt-get install xchat
  • [15:46:47] <veremit> oh wait
  • [15:46:49] <veremit> debian .. lol
  • [15:47:07] <veremit> opkg -i xchat? bet it doesn' exist .. bloody angstrom.
  • [15:47:34] <rooted> yep , thats right. so can i add some repo in angstorm ? for xchat
  • [15:47:41] <rooted> or any irc client
  • [15:47:48] <veremit> scratch the beagle and put debian on it ;)
  • [15:48:04] <rooted> and i can flash it in the nand flash ?
  • [15:48:19] <veremit> yup .. shuold be a flasher debian image on the beagleboard site
  • [15:48:38] <rooted> thanks mate.
  • [15:48:40] <veremit> np
  • [15:48:54] <veremit> angstrom such a headache unless you want a minimal embedded system
  • [15:48:59] <rooted> other question , why beaglebone black is rare in the market ? :(
  • [15:49:11] <veremit> very high demand, limited supply
  • [15:49:23] <veremit> or rather .. limited production capacity to date
  • [15:49:34] <rooted> cant find it in any comercial store , yet if i found one it is expensive.
  • [15:49:46] <veremit> yea gotta order and wait
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  • [15:50:00] <veremit> should be much more coming in now element14 got theirs comin along
  • [15:50:17] <rooted> from the distributors ? they sell it expensive too
  • [15:50:23] <veremit> circuitco were only making 500-700/week and with orders of 000s ...
  • [15:50:43] <veremit> should be ~$40-60 (dependin on version)
  • [15:51:09] <veremit> I haven't seen pricing for RevC yet .. *goes to look*
  • [15:51:39] <rooted> hmmm
  • [15:51:50] <rooted> the latest version is rev C or B ?
  • [15:52:38] <veremit> revC .. comes with 4G eMMC not 2
  • [15:52:51] <veremit> pricing £35 here in UK
  • [15:53:08] <veremit> awaiting delivery though
  • [15:53:19] <rooted> hmmm , thanks
  • [15:55:12] <veremit> where ya based?
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  • [16:06:16] <rooted> where i what ?
  • [16:07:07] <veremit> where are ya in the world?
  • [16:07:31] <rooted> kuwait - middle east
  • [16:07:48] <veremit> hmm just found an uber-low-cost board .. someone was asking for a bare silicon board without the periphs .. Kinetis KL25Z .. £8
  • [16:07:57] <veremit> ah ok
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  • [16:30:30] <rooted> veremit , about the freescale embedded board, can i do home automation with it ?
  • [16:30:59] <veremit> depends what ya wanna do lol
  • [16:31:43] <rooted> thats for the link.
  • [16:33:07] <veremit> you can do home automation with the arduino
  • [16:33:22] <veremit> there's lots of boards out there at lost of cost/complexity levels
  • [16:35:11] <veremit> lots*
  • [16:38:24] <rooted> thanks alot.
  • [16:38:31] <veremit> np
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  • [17:09:24] <AE7IK> Well, wtf.
  • [17:09:42] <AE7IK> I install pyside and run out of space on my bbb.
  • [17:11:40] <veremit> lol
  • [17:11:45] <veremit> it ain't no server ffs :P lol
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  • [17:12:05] <veremit> assuming eMMC not uSD ..
  • [17:12:17] <veremit> really should use uSD for large apps
  • [17:12:49] <AE7IK> Well, I guess I'm not going to use my mouse now.
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  • [17:14:32] <veremit> lol
  • [17:14:39] <AE7IK> Cat got my lap
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  • [17:33:50] <spessx> maybe now someone's online with sgx/ogles and qt experiences on bbb? i can't believe it's so hard to add hardware acceleration to qt...
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  • [19:14:59] <Blaketh> Nice seeing Beaglebone at Maker Faire, got a cute sticker.
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  • [19:17:16] <zmatt> veremit: it ain't a server? I know someone who has an rpi sitting (or hanging I think) in some data center as server, so why not? ;-)
  • [19:17:29] <veremit> lol
  • [19:17:30] <veremit> ooook
  • [19:17:34] <veremit> whatever floats.
  • [19:17:56] <veremit> I guess it makes a good hdmi front-end :)
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  • [20:13:17] <Gateway69> question, im using black but having usb hot plug issues, the usb devices dissapear after i unplug and replug them in unless i reboot.. any thoughts or fixes?
  • [20:14:38] <Gateway69> running this version Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [20:23:18] <woglinde> its known
  • [20:23:33] <woglinde> and no easy chance for you to solve it
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  • [20:43:49] <veremit`afk> upgrade to newer kernel
  • [20:43:54] <veremit`afk> usb is better
  • [20:44:23] <Gateway69> the latest i can find is 3.8.13 build 49.. but not sure if thats fixed in that build?
  • [20:44:50] <Gateway69> i read using lsusb -v can fix the issue, not sure why the verbose flag works but odd
  • [20:45:25] <veremit`afk> no .. its a bug I've experienced personally .. and tlaking to various ppl .. the driver in that version is just really shit
  • [20:45:30] * veremit`afk is now known as veremit
  • [20:45:37] <veremit> thats the technical Shit :)
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  • [20:46:10] <veremit> I understand it was repurposed from another device .. so its quite a bit broken
  • [20:46:43] <Gateway69> what version should i try then? before i go digging though the whole internet :)
  • [20:46:55] <veremit> some fixes have been made to newer kernels .. there should be 3.12 sources around .. possibly you need to go to eewiki.net/linuxonarm and check the BeagleboneBlack page there
  • [20:47:03] <veremit> I've built most of my images from his instructions
  • [20:47:18] <Gateway69> im using this. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
  • [20:47:23] <veremit> ah
  • [20:47:34] <veremit> yes the documentation is a little .. fragmented lol
  • [20:47:42] <Gateway69> yea all over the place
  • [20:47:52] <veremit> http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
  • [20:47:55] <Gateway69> well i can try build 49, since i have 47, but always something
  • [20:48:25] <veremit> you're familiar with building a kernel?
  • [20:48:37] <Gateway69> yea i have, its not something i want to do..
  • [20:48:58] <veremit> hmm .. the instructions on that site are fairly easy to follow if you got a linux host to do it
  • [20:49:57] <veremit> bit of downloading to do .. the rest is .. go make a cup of coffee/etc :)
  • [20:49:59] <Gateway69> im looking at this.. seems pretty simple http://datko.net/2014/03/21/bbb_upgrade_3_13/
  • [20:50:01] <veremit> done it quite a few times
  • [20:50:08] <Gateway69> 3.13 much better?
  • [20:50:52] <veremit> ah the capemgr is Mising in 3.13 .. I Seee ......
  • [20:50:57] <veremit> not been ported yet :/
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  • [20:51:54] <Gateway69> so i should not try 3.13? sorry way to much info here trying to figure out best approach
  • [20:51:58] <veremit> personally .. I wouldn't build it on the beagle .. I would go for an x86 system .. will be much faster
  • [20:52:17] <veremit> 3.12/3.13 .. I guess RN has updated .. he's been instrumental in the debian transition with the beagle foundation
  • [20:52:33] <veremit> oh wait .. eat my words .. 3.14
  • [20:52:37] <Gateway69> i think 3.14 for bone is out ?
  • [20:52:57] <veremit> question 1) do you need cape support?
  • [20:53:11] <veremit> if not .. 3.14 is way to go .. if Yes .. you're stuck with 3.8
  • [20:53:38] <Gateway69> i only need usbhot plug support
  • [20:53:57] <Gateway69> err usb hotplug support, its the only thing im trying to solve
  • [20:54:09] <veremit> yea best go for >3.12 ie. 3.13or 14
  • [20:54:21] <veremit> its still not perfect .. but nothing Like as bad as 3.8
  • [20:54:21] <Gateway69> k, cheers ill try a update see what happens :)
  • [20:54:32] <veremit> 3.8 was dismal lol
  • [20:55:24] <Gateway69> thanks
  • [20:56:27] <veremit> g/l :)
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  • [22:39:50] <bjackman> Hi guys, any chance anyone knows the differences between revs A* and C* of the Beagle xM?
  • [22:39:56] <bjackman> i.e. are there errata?
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  • [22:46:09] <veremit> bjackman .. should be on the beagleboard pages ..
  • [22:46:28] <veremit> or failing that .. elinux.org
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  • [22:47:15] <veremit> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-xM#Hardware_Design_Files
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  • [22:47:55] <veremit> also: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Community
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  • [23:04:32] <JustRob_> Hi, my beaglebone black of maybe 6 months old flashes the power led on power up
  • [23:04:53] <veremit> you killed it, didn't you ... :P~
  • [23:05:05] <JustRob_> according to the documentation it detected an over current
  • [23:05:09] <veremit> power/signal on pins before the beagle powered up?
  • [23:05:17] <bjackman> veremit: OK, thanks, I'll take a look
  • [23:05:40] <veremit> JustRob .. I think thre was a PMIC reset you could do
  • [23:05:47] <JustRob_> how can I fix it? what options do I have?
  • [23:05:52] <veremit> but if the processor got fried .. RMA :)
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  • [23:06:49] <JustRob_> a pmic reset?
  • [23:07:25] <JustRob_> I didn't see anything in the srm
  • [23:08:27] <JustRob_> i designed a cape that provided the power through the expansion pins
  • [23:09:18] <JustRob_> now I can't get it to power up or boot via usb to my desktop with no cape
  • [23:10:05] <veremit> sounds about right
  • [23:10:19] <veremit> damn chip is stupid sensitive about power sequence
  • [23:11:10] <veremit> I think gerald posted some trick somwehre .. googling.
  • [23:11:10] <JustRob_> ok, so i'll google pmic reset then probably rma it
  • [23:14:35] <veremit> iirc it involved powering the beagle with a switch pressed .. only I can't find now which one ..
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  • [23:28:12] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I get device overlays to load on boot?
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  • [23:54:16] <worldview> can anyone tell me if the uefi spec inhibits the booting of a dos fat32 partition
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  • [23:59:49] <worldview> the white paper is unclear