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  • [00:00:28] * Topic is 'http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs | never ask to ask, just ask | be patient | pastebin a boot log | http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg | BBB is being sold faster than produced. Order one and wait. There is no other way. | http://beagleboard.org/latest-images | http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101'
  • [00:00:28] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Fri Apr 18 13:57:19 UTC 2014
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  • [00:05:24] <shawnbon206> what the
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  • [00:05:39] <shawnbon206> end if may beginning of june for my bbb?
  • [00:05:48] <shawnbon206> s/if/of
  • [00:07:28] <shawnbon206> anyone know whats going on with the production? new setbacks?
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  • [00:11:47] <cybercypher_> hi. does anyone know how to enable spi on beagleboardxm with RobertCNelson's linux-stable 3.9.x kernel?
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  • [00:57:23] <veremit> shawnbon206 .. I *think* they're moving production .. but I'm not sure
  • [00:58:23] <veremit> shawnbon206 .. but you can be sure it'll be the 'wait and see' game ;)
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  • [01:00:16] <shawnbon206> well they said it should be shipping now when i preordered
  • [01:00:26] <shawnbon206> now its a month from now
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  • [01:06:22] <veremit> shawnbon206 .. that woul dbe about right lol
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  • [05:58:16] <jpfau> I seem to have mucked up my device tree overlays for the EMMC and HDMI. I'm not sure how it's working at all right now, but dmesg says it can't load them. I don't seem to have associated dtbo files in /lib/firmware, either
  • [05:58:33] <jpfau> I was trying to build my own kernel but it didn't seem to build the associated dtbo files
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  • [06:02:06] <bmatusiak_> where can i find the latest changelog of the latest kernel
  • [06:02:54] <jpfau> I'm not experienced with device tree so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm building the kernel (3.12.13-bone12) from rcn's repository
  • [06:06:18] <jpfau> oh, bleh, the "solution" I found online is to downgrade my kernel
  • [06:08:28] <jpfau> guess I'm going back to 3.8
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  • [08:35:56] <ventus> hey dudes
  • [08:36:29] <ventus> my beaglebone isn't starting at all, how can i test whats wrong?
  • [08:37:31] <Dan1> serial debug cable would be best
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  • [09:01:05] <ventus> okey like a wonder its working again
  • [09:01:19] <ventus> second question :-)
  • [09:02:26] <ventus> how can i enable serial connection via usb to the beaglebone on debian like its working on the preinstalled angstrom?
  • [09:02:48] <ventus> i mean with debian on the beaglebone
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  • [09:51:34] <must_know> hello , ive got a beaglebone black before 5 months , but its seems it doesnt support my hdmi tv's , went to the forums and couldnt solve the issue
  • [09:51:56] <must_know> any idea ?
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  • [12:00:41] <deluxe247> I need help with my dts. I loaded and get some output in dmesg that doesnt seem favorable I have gotten the amount of errors little by by but I am lost on how to resolve this error
  • [12:02:23] <deluxe247> http://pastebin.com/siPtBhFa here is a link to what the output is. any help is appreciated
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  • [12:55:28] <JFK911> this battery wont discharge. i should short it
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  • [13:11:06] <veremit> ***BANG!***
  • [13:11:27] <veremit> hey prpplague .. you there?
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  • [15:10:40] <fohnbit> Hello! Can I use Java8 ARM on a Angstrom BBB?
  • [15:11:43] <tbr> probably
  • [15:12:01] <fohnbit> I tried it with Debian on a BBB. Running fine, but was not able to enable the 4 UART
  • [15:12:26] <fohnbit> Or does someone here know how I can use all UART unter Debian on my BBB?
  • [15:12:58] <veremit> just enable the capes in capemgr in your uEnv.txt
  • [15:13:11] <veremit> easy
  • [15:13:23] <fohnbit> When I use Debian, I doesnt have this option, right?
  • [15:13:29] <fohnbit> Because file are not exists
  • [15:13:35] <veremit> yes it does
  • [15:13:37] <fohnbit> with Angstrom it was easy, yes
  • [15:14:06] <veremit> you can't boot otherwise .. uboot looks for uEnv .. although I guess someone's put a n00b version of uboot up .. I use eewiki.net debian/uboot build
  • [15:14:18] <fohnbit> Ok, so I just have to generate the file and reboot (same as Angstrom)?
  • [15:14:30] <veremit> probably .. I'd certainly try that :)
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  • [15:16:44] <fohnbit> You mean this Image?: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard#BeagleBoard-Debian7
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  • [15:19:18] <fohnbit> Or this one: http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb.img.xz
  • [15:20:50] <veremit> ah I do it manually according to the instructions on the first site
  • [15:21:32] <fohnbit> OK, I will try the eMMC flasher Image ... maybe it works also there(?)
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  • [15:25:09] <veremit> I think the guy that hosts the eewiki site has been fairly instrumental in the transition to Debian on the BBB, so youshould be ok
  • [15:25:17] <veremit> wow .. debian 7.4 .. damnit.
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  • [15:29:10] <_av500_> back
  • [15:32:54] <fohnbit> OK, thank you for your help
  • [15:34:06] <veremit> hope you figure it out .. lots of stuff on google :)
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  • [17:25:01] <fohnbit> Hello! I try to enable all UART on my BBB. Distribution Debian
  • [17:25:01] <fohnbit> I generate the uEnv.txt File and reboot. But only UART1 is enabled
  • [17:25:03] <fohnbit> Can someone help, thanks
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  • [17:38:27] <fohnbit> OK, guess I found it now
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  • [21:26:15] <Guest29665> hi
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  • [21:27:11] <Gmae> has anyone manufatured the BBB?
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  • [21:30:54] <shawnbon206> lol no
  • [21:30:57] <shawnbon206> nobody
  • [21:32:23] <nyt-> anyone know a decent cheap spectrum analyzer?
  • [21:32:30] <nyt-> have some rf issues around my house messing w/ my alarm
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  • [21:38:22] <Gmae> shawnbon206: why that lol?
  • [21:39:17] <shawnbon206> it means i was being sarcastic.. i think?
  • [21:39:55] <shawnbon206> but also sadly its true because my rev C is on backorder indefinitely
  • [21:40:00] <thurgood> there's a chinese company mass producing them now, isn't there?
  • [21:40:39] <shawnbon206> once a month i check on it and the production keeps getting pushed farther and farther back
  • [21:41:03] <Gmae> thurgood: what company is it?
  • [21:41:21] <shawnbon206> at this rate its never going to happen
  • [21:41:25] <Gmae> shawnbon206: I’m integrating the BBB in one of my products
  • [21:41:42] <shawnbon206> i already CNCd a case for mine
  • [21:42:44] <shawnbon206> anyone want a billet CNC bbb case?
  • [21:43:22] <nyt-> pics
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  • [21:43:43] <myself> nyt-: you can sometimes score an SA430 for cheap with a coupon code or something, and all the UBNT M-series radios have spec-an mode for the bands they operate on. There's also the RF Explorer, which I have not used.
  • [21:44:25] <thurgood> embest, apparently.. but it looks like they may not be exporting them out of china
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  • [21:44:44] <mrpackethead> thurgood, i think theres at least three companies buildign them now
  • [21:44:47] <mrpackethead> theres embest
  • [21:44:58] <mrpackethead> element14 and CCO
  • [21:45:07] <mrpackethead> plus there is a bbb, in a different form factor
  • [21:45:14] <tsquar3d> Yo. I am entertaining the idea of making a BBB cell-phone with a SIM900 shield -- anyone with experience in this?
  • [21:45:14] <mrpackethead> and still the demand is too high.
  • [21:45:18] <Gmae> thurgood: what about just sending the gerber and the BOM to a PCB manufacturer
  • [21:45:30] <Gmae> tsquar3d: me
  • [21:45:36] <mrpackethead> Gmae: theres an idea.
  • [21:45:41] <thurgood> you can do that if you the design is open
  • [21:45:49] <mrpackethead> the design is open
  • [21:46:00] <tsquar3d> Gmae: Cool... did you get one to work -- and do you have a write-up?
  • [21:46:02] <mrpackethead> the gerbers, bom and all the detail are on beaglebone.org
  • [21:46:15] <thurgood> but in low quantities it will be significantly more expensive
  • [21:46:33] <mrpackethead> in high quanitys it will e significnatly more expensive.
  • [21:46:34] <Gmae> thurgood: expensieve how
  • [21:46:44] <veremit> embest = element14
  • [21:46:57] <veremit> cco I think will stop production .. china will compete on price & quantity
  • [21:47:13] <veremit> if that is indeed whats happening :)
  • [21:47:21] <thurgood> the prices are based on Minimum Order Qantities in the thousands
  • [21:47:22] <mrpackethead> the BBB shoud never have been priced at $45, that is the problme
  • [21:47:27] <veremit> cco have other projects to work on :)
  • [21:47:52] <mrpackethead> at $45, its practiclaly impossible to make money
  • [21:47:56] <thurgood> cco should raise the price if they can't keep up with the demand
  • [21:47:59] <veremit> $45 is fine .. its the level of demand and production capacity that became issues.
  • [21:48:03] <nyt-> myself: i was lookin gat rf explorer but it only went to 2.5ghz or something, was hoping to have something at least usable in teh 5ghz range as well, though what i need at the momenet is 300mhz, i'll check into those
  • [21:48:09] <mrpackethead> and so, why woud you invest in the plant to build more.
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  • [21:48:34] <mrpackethead> $45 is not fine.
  • [21:49:12] <thurgood> the price being as low as it is increases the demand, and lowers the profit... decreasing future supply
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  • [21:49:42] <Gmae> tsquar3d: is SIM900 from SIMCOM?
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  • [21:50:01] <veremit> how much wold you like to pay mrpacket-spanner-cockface .. rofl
  • [21:50:19] <veremit> :)
  • [21:50:22] <tsquar3d> Gmae: yeah, I have the shield that is usually used with arduino
  • [21:50:27] <thurgood> I would like to pay enough to be able to get one in a timely manner :P
  • [21:50:29] <veremit> nvm
  • [21:50:42] <veremit> cco couldn't keep up with demand .. simple as that
  • [21:50:50] <Gmae> veremit: somebody is ussing the 45$ price to buy them directly from distributors and integrating them in a comercial design
  • [21:51:04] <Gmae> tsquar3d: do you haveskype?
  • [21:51:18] <thurgood> I wouldn't do that, because of the lead time
  • [21:51:28] <veremit> Gmae .. LOTS of ppl are buying the stock up .. and either using in products (Like the Pi too) and/or sellig on ebay because demand is high and they can make a profit
  • [21:51:28] <thurgood> but the price is tempting
  • [21:51:34] <tsquar3d> Gmae: Nah -- internet connection is archaic.
  • [21:51:51] <Gmae> tsquar3d: ahha
  • [21:51:58] <veremit> cco have limited production capacity
  • [21:52:17] <veremit> fix supply .. and ebay BBB vanish
  • [21:52:21] <thurgood> people reselling on ebay new is a sign that the price is wrong
  • [21:52:45] <veremit> if ppl wanna use Pi/BBB/etc in products .. thats fine
  • [21:53:14] <Gmae> tsquar3d: well I’m integrating a design with BBB and SIM5360
  • [21:53:25] <veremit> the Pi proved that a low-cost ARM board would sell
  • [21:53:41] <veremit> other manufacturers .. eg BBB /Wand .. are struggling to catch up
  • [21:53:49] <Gmae> veremit: I got one BBB for 100$ a week ago
  • [21:53:53] <Gmae> veremit: on ebay
  • [21:53:58] <veremit> mine was free :)
  • [21:54:10] <Gmae> veremit: why is it?
  • [21:54:32] <Gmae> tsquar3d: my design may help you
  • [21:54:32] <veremit> I was gifted it from work as we were working on aproject with it .. and it broke .. so I had it repaired
  • [21:54:58] <tsquar3d> You got a website? Gmae
  • [21:55:14] <Gmae> tsquar3d: what do you mean
  • [21:55:54] <tsquar3d> A place where you have documentation
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  • [21:56:07] <Gmae> tsquar3d: nope
  • [21:56:33] <thurgood> we considered a bbb based design briefly, but the lack of 3d supporting kernels shelved that idea
  • [21:56:37] <veremit> no blog/wiki/northing ?
  • [21:56:56] <veremit> thurgood .. which way did you turn?
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  • [21:57:12] <veremit> imx6 got vpu/gpu work going on
  • [21:57:15] <thurgood> stuck with a design based off the xM
  • [21:57:34] <thurgood> and an older kernel
  • [21:57:41] <Gmae> tsquar3d: are you planning to manufacture yourself?
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  • [21:58:04] <tsquar3d> Gmae: Yep. It's a hobbyist thing.
  • [21:58:14] <tsquar3d> Might just stick with arduino or msp430, though.
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  • [22:01:56] <thurgood> also we would have needed to rewire the hdmi to use all 24 bits
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  • [22:04:35] <thurgood> we have some gradiated colors that band really noticeably in 16 bit mode
  • [22:04:42] <thurgood> in our app
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  • [23:01:44] <nyt-> 3g + 2.4g
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  • [23:49:04] <djerome> For anyone interested: I just uploaded ttylinux release for BeagleBone. It is really small command-line only, but has Lua scripting, thttpd + haserl, and gcc 4.7.3 for C, C99, and C++
  • [23:49:09] <djerome> http://ttylinux.net//dloadBBN.html
  • [23:56:17] <djerome> err, I only have a bb white. I dunno how well this works on a bbb.