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  • [00:48:15] <n-st> veremit: news from the rebooting bbb!
  • [00:48:28] <veremit> o,O
  • [00:49:24] <n-st> i waited for about five hours for it to fail while logging the uart output. it didn't reboot, of course
  • [00:50:24] <n-st> i then set it up just like it was before, same place, network and power connections, just without the external hard drive connected, and it ran without any interruption for almost two days
  • [00:51:13] <n-st> i plugged the hard drive back in in the evening and it rebooted less than three hours after that
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  • [00:51:43] <n-st> nah, actually might have been five
  • [00:52:39] <Vaizki> is the hard drive bus-powered?
  • [00:52:43] <n-st> still, it looks like i've found the culprit
  • [00:53:00] <n-st> Vaizki: nope, it's a self-powered raid enclosure
  • [00:53:12] <Vaizki> ah.
  • [00:53:15] <n-st> it does however have a history of causing strange voltage spikes
  • [00:53:20] <Vaizki> :O
  • [00:53:29] <n-st> not sure if it's faulty or just badly designed
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  • [00:53:43] <veremit> mmm well .. least we found the culprit
  • [00:53:51] <Vaizki> well the PMIC will reset the BBB if usb power gets a beating
  • [00:55:10] <n-st> Vaizki: that's odd. i also have a wifi stick that causes a huge current spike when plugged in (also not sure if faulty or crappy by design) and it just knocks out the bbb's usb bus, but doesn't reboot it
  • [00:55:48] <n-st> it does however reboot both of my raspberry pis when plugged into them
  • [00:55:58] <n-st> kinda inconvenient...
  • [00:56:01] <veremit> usb should be fairly resitient .. it has to withstand surges by design
  • [00:56:12] <veremit> resilient*
  • [00:56:49] <veremit> if every computer was to reboot when you pluggedin a usb device .. what use would that be!?
  • [00:57:04] <n-st> i should probably cut a cable, put a current shunt in there and measure the spike, but i've been too lazy for that until now
  • [00:57:43] <veremit> think I'd be looking into the power supply in the raid enclosure .. see if you can replace it
  • [00:57:50] <n-st> well, the bbb doesn't reboot, but the power to the usb cut is disabled until the next power cycle
  • [00:58:10] <veremit> usb host is partially broken on the bbb remember :)
  • [00:58:33] <n-st> the power supply is integrated into the raid enclosure :|
  • [00:58:40] <n-st> is it?
  • [00:58:49] <n-st> in what way, specifically?
  • [00:59:00] <veremit> oh dear .. do I have to explain again lol
  • [00:59:27] <n-st> you need a bot for the common "don't do this or you'll be sorry" things :D
  • [00:59:42] <veremit> the code was ported from another project for the processor, so its not complete, it partially works. . but its not fully compliant
  • [00:59:54] <n-st> ah, i heard that last time
  • [00:59:56] <veremit> so hotplugging doesn't work if there are no devices plugged in at boot
  • [01:00:01] <veremit> period.
  • [01:00:20] <n-st> didn't think you were talking about usb at that time
  • [01:00:36] <n-st> but can you define "working" in that context?
  • [01:00:48] <n-st> the hard drive is recognised without problems
  • [01:00:50] <veremit> I think if the link is up .. you're ok ..
  • [01:00:58] <veremit> iits just getting the usb link
  • [01:00:59] <n-st> oh, and what kernel are we talking about anyway?
  • [01:01:03] <veremit> any.
  • [01:01:08] <veremit> its a flaw in the ti driver
  • [01:01:17] <veremit> needs a re-write
  • [01:01:51] <veremit> I don't think there's a real issue in hardwar e.. its just the software doesn't know how to talk to the hardware properly
  • [01:01:57] <n-st> i've recently upgraded to https://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.13.2-bone5/
  • [01:02:00] <veremit> and nobody seems to have ever fixed it
  • [01:02:07] <n-st> 3.12 had the same reboot problems, thought
  • [01:02:10] <veremit> 3.13 was reported to be "better" for some things
  • [01:02:15] <n-st> * s/t$//
  • [01:02:28] <veremit> but from all I understand .. still hasn't resolved the fundamental mismatch of architecture
  • [01:02:55] * veremit quietly screams out ... BODGE!
  • [01:03:01] <veremit> lol
  • [01:03:27] <n-st> i don't mind bodges as long as they work :)
  • [01:03:46] <n-st> which this one apparently doesn't in some cases
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  • [01:04:19] <n-st> now, what would you suggest i do about the annoying hard drive?
  • [01:04:35] <veremit> take it to bits :D
  • [01:04:40] <n-st> is there any chance a powered usb hub will help, even if it's self-powered to begin with?
  • [01:04:40] <veremit> lol
  • [01:04:58] <Vaizki> how are you powering the bbb btw?
  • [01:04:59] <veremit> you might be lucky and it isolate the power problems
  • [01:05:11] <n-st> well, the warranty on that thing is still intact, so i'd rather not...
  • [01:05:16] <veremit> techically it should help
  • [01:05:44] <n-st> but i can't really return it and tell them "it's causing my arm dev-board to reboot"
  • [01:07:09] <n-st> same thing goes for the spike-inducing wifi stick
  • [01:07:09] <veremit> ll why not?!
  • [01:08:01] <n-st> both the stick and the hard drive are working on my laptop (most of the time at least), so it's probably gonna work for the tech support people processing the warranty claim as well
  • [01:08:26] <n-st> they'll just call bullshit on my report, send the bloody thing back and have me pay the shipping
  • [01:09:23] <n-st> (does this channel have any rules on swearing?)
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  • [01:11:34] <n-st> Vaizki: missed your question -- i'm powering it from a 5V 1A power supply via the barrel jack. i also tried a different power supply via the header connectors, but that didn't change anything. the random rebooting really only occurs when the hard drive is connected.
  • [01:15:49] <veremit> yeah its a cheap hard drive thingy
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  • [01:16:30] <veremit> need a nice cheap arm board with multiple satas and do it in software :D
  • [01:16:37] <veremit> dmraid :)
  • [01:17:04] <n-st> by now i've figured out that i'd be better off _without_ the raid rather than with it
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  • [01:18:04] <n-st> i originally decided to set up a raid 1 to keep my data safe, but that just saves my from hardware failures, not from me screwing up and deleting something important
  • [01:18:20] <veremit> nothing will save you from that .. besides daily backups
  • [01:18:56] <veremit> NOT mirroring .. JUST backups
  • [01:19:03] <n-st> exactly. so i should probably use the two hard drives in separate enclosures and regularly rsnapshot one to the other
  • [01:19:16] <veremit> exactly
  • [01:19:26] <n-st> but raid seemed like such a neat idea :(
  • [01:19:58] <veremit> it is .. for data Integrity :p
  • [01:20:01] <n-st> now i'm stuck with a 90? raid enclosure with a sub-par power supply...
  • [01:20:20] <veremit> yeah there's no such thing as a Good raid system <??1000
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  • [01:34:48] <tr4nc3> hi ... i'm trying to compile the kernel sources for Beaglebone Black
  • [01:35:36] <tr4nc3> and the bbb site points me to https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel
  • [01:35:54] <tr4nc3> but there's just a patch.sh in it
  • [01:38:12] <tr4nc3> can anyone point out ... if i should get the linux kernel sources from the https://github.com/torvalds/linux
  • [01:38:23] <veremit> did you follow the insructions?
  • [01:38:25] <tr4nc3> or someplace else ... and just run patch.sh
  • [01:38:37] <veremit> that script probably pulls a bunch of stuff down for you.
  • [01:38:49] <veremit> so I recommend you do that :)
  • [01:39:01] <tr4nc3> oh ok
  • [01:39:23] <tr4nc3> i should've looked the src of the patch.sh script
  • [01:39:34] <veremit> probably ;)
  • [01:39:40] <tr4nc3> the name was misleading i guess to me ... i thought it was just a patch ....
  • [01:39:47] <n-st> the repo even contains a readme with instructions :)
  • [01:39:56] <tr4nc3> awesome!
  • [01:39:57] <tr4nc3> thanks
  • [01:40:02] <veremit> these things often depend on the kernel.org tree .. and a set of patches to apply to it
  • [01:40:17] <veremit> and its usually automated using git and various other handy tools :p
  • [01:43:12] <tr4nc3> ok ....
  • [01:43:33] <tr4nc3> i assume that we have to download this on a separate system and then cross-compile?
  • [01:48:27] <veremit> thats the recommended method tr4nc3
  • [01:48:47] <veremit> you -can- compile on the bbb but it will take a lot of space (probably better to do on uSD) and a looooong time.
  • [01:49:01] <tr4nc3> ok ... that makes sense
  • [01:49:25] <veremit> its not too painful once you got the toolchain sorted out
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  • [03:34:37] <iandow> I have a wifi card that comes up as wlan0 and responds to the command `iwlist wlan0 scan`, but does not correctly join a network and aquire an address via dhcp. Is it safe that since it scans okay, that the firmware is okay, and that I should focus troubleshooting on wpa / connman configs?
  • [03:35:07] <iandow> I meant to say, safe to assume that the firmware is okay
  • [03:35:23] <iandow> and driver is okay. And that I should focus on wpa / connman
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  • [03:39:07] <veremit> no
  • [03:39:08] <veremit> lol
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  • [03:46:51] <iandow> I'm having problems getting the TP-Link WL-WN722N wifi adapter to work.
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  • [03:54:29] <veremit> let me guess .. its an rtl8192cu chip?
  • [03:55:09] <iandow> Nope, this one is athena
  • [03:55:26] <iandow> I mean Atheros
  • [03:55:34] <iandow> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
  • [03:57:02] <iandow> dmesg looks good for this device:
  • [03:57:19] <veremit> oh
  • [03:57:24] <veremit> right the alx driver
  • [03:57:27] <iandow> root@beaglebone:~# dmesg | grep htc
  • [03:57:27] <iandow> [ 26.412116] ath9k_htc 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface
  • [03:57:27] <iandow> [ 26.412152] ath9k_htc 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
  • [03:57:29] <iandow> [ 26.412213] usb 1-1: ath9k_htc: Firmware htc_9271.fw requested
  • [03:57:31] <iandow> [ 26.435179] usbcore: registered new interface driver ath9k_htc
  • [03:57:33] <iandow> [ 26.700219] usb 1-1: ath9k_htc: Transferred FW: htc_9271.fw, size: 51272
  • [03:57:35] <iandow> [ 26.935056] ath9k_htc 1-1:1.0: ath9k_htc: HTC initialized with 33 credits
  • [03:57:36] <iandow> [ 27.118796] ath9k_htc 1-1:1.0: ath9k_htc: FW Version: 1.3
  • [03:57:37] <veremit> oh its goin ok on the ath9
  • [03:57:59] <veremit> ah usb duh right
  • [03:58:03] <veremit> yeah should be ok
  • [03:58:09] <veremit> you using conman?
  • [03:58:41] <veremit> I go hardcore with wireless and use wpa_supplicant .. but I do find NetworkManager works ok for debian/etc .. I wanna try it on gentoo. Wicd is horrible.
  • [03:58:49] <veremit> but works also
  • [03:59:03] <iandow> I'm working in Angstrom
  • [03:59:13] <iandow> Gentoo works on beaglebone??? That sounds like fun
  • [03:59:27] <_av500_> why should it not work?
  • [03:59:36] <_av500_> HW runs SW
  • [03:59:49] <veremit> I've seen gentoo on arm .. no reason why it shouldn't
  • [04:00:00] <iandow> true.
  • [04:00:11] <veremit> the toolchain is very easy with crossdev
  • [04:00:33] <veremit> althugh I've been lazy and not used it except for cortex-m3 stuff .. but that proves it works
  • [04:00:36] <iandow> I'm using a customized angstrom kernel.
  • [04:02:00] <iandow> So, when you ask "am I using conman?" I'm not sure, because I don't run any connman commands outright. connmand is running and enabled in init.d, though.
  • [04:02:33] <veremit> well .. you gotta tell it what to do
  • [04:02:41] <veremit> its not artificially intelligent you know ....
  • [04:02:53] <iandow> I've been trying to join my network with commands such as, ifup wlan0, and /sbin/udhcpc -i wlan0
  • [04:03:12] <veremit> yeah that won't work until you have fixed up the wireless bit
  • [04:03:36] <iandow> or even `iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid 1`
  • [04:03:38] <veremit> which is where you need iwconfig or wpa_supplicant or some combination of the other tools ie. conman/networkmanager/wicd/etc.
  • [04:04:59] <iandow> I suppose I'm using wpa_supplicant, instead of connman. (I don't know what connman does, but I have been trying to use wpa_supplicant in a lot of different ways)
  • [04:05:30] <veremit> you shuold see a list of networks with 'iwlist scanning'
  • [04:05:39] <iandow> i do
  • [04:05:46] <veremit> but you HAVE to see the magic tag "Associated" in the WIRLESS part of the config
  • [04:05:54] <veremit> or else no data will transfer across the link
  • [04:06:00] <veremit> THEN you can do ya dhcp/etc.
  • [04:06:18] <veremit> but ONLY once you are ASSOCIATED with the access-point .. UNLESS you're using peer-to-peer or ad-hoc
  • [04:06:29] <johnwalkr> there is a a verbose mode with wpa_supplicant
  • [04:06:39] <johnwalkr> it???s really bad at telling you something is wrong without that
  • [04:06:42] <iandow> I'm not using p2p or adhoc
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  • [04:07:08] <veremit> need a bit of intuition with wpa_supplicant .. but its not hard. Use the examples in the config given
  • [04:07:22] <veremit> then just comment in/out sections :)
  • [04:07:49] <johnwalkr> it???s pretty unweildy the first few times you set it up
  • [04:08:17] <johnwalkr> the examples tend to have a load of enterprise stuff you have to wade through
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  • [04:08:56] <iandow> where does wpa_supplicant log verbose output?
  • [04:09:36] <veremit> ./var/log/wpa_supplicant or wherever you set it in the config
  • [04:09:59] <iandow> thx
  • [04:09:59] <johnwalkr> or to console if you run it on it???s own (i.e.: not using ifup)
  • [04:10:18] <veremit> is there an interactive switch? or non-daemon mode
  • [04:10:29] <veremit> just closed my linuxsession down :/
  • [04:10:48] <iandow> ah! got it working now. I had to kill and restart wpa_supplicant, like this:
  • [04:10:50] <iandow> `wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf`
  • [04:10:55] <johnwalkr> off the top of my head I don???t know, sorry
  • [04:11:13] <johnwalkr> oh good!
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  • [04:11:32] <iandow> thanks for talking me thru it. It helps to think out loud.
  • [04:12:10] <veremit> always
  • [04:12:21] <veremit> ok time for bed I-)
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  • [08:03:48] <tasslehoff> Should the latest kernels work well on Beagleboard C3/C4? Anyone tried?
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  • [08:06:47] <woglinde> gm
  • [08:06:49] <tasslehoff> I spy with my little eye something that might just fix my remaining musb issue
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  • [08:06:52] <tasslehoff> morning woglinde
  • [08:06:58] <woglinde> tasslehoff hehe
  • [08:07:23] <woglinde> I think all c3/c4 users are gone or did not boot them for a while
  • [08:07:26] <woglinde> like me
  • [08:09:14] <tasslehoff> woglinde: yeah. I seem to be talking mostly to myself when I mention those :)
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  • [08:13:00] <woglinde> tasslehoff but I am eager to hear more about your musb adventures
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  • [08:14:13] <_av500_> musbventures
  • [08:15:47] <woglinde> gm av500
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  • [08:17:49] <ynezz> tasslehoff: but let us know :)
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  • [08:24:30] <woglinde> gm ynezz
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  • [08:34:37] <woglinde> hm whats ibm doing at embedded world fair
  • [08:36:15] <tasslehoff> I'm on 2.6.39 and struggle with coldplugging. I see a number of fixes for that in later kernels.
  • [08:36:15] <_av500_> embedding servers into the floor
  • [08:36:46] <_av500_> tasslehoff: add a relay and hotplug after boot, like an audio amplifier with speaker protection :)
  • [08:37:04] <tasslehoff> Trying to patch my kernel with it now, but musb has changed quite a bit, therefore I ponder trying a later kernel.
  • [08:37:12] <tasslehoff> _av500_: plan b
  • [08:37:15] <tasslehoff> :)
  • [08:40:26] <ynezz> woglinde: morgen
  • [08:41:07] <KotH> woglinde: remember ibm's linux watch?
  • [08:55:26] <ynezz> now it's electronic ear
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  • [08:56:38] <woglinde> koth hm no
  • [08:56:56] <KotH> .o0(youngsters)
  • [08:57:18] <KotH> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucfzPoBe-nA
  • [08:58:03] <woglinde> koth na
  • [08:58:17] <woglinde> I do not need to remember all stuff
  • [08:58:31] <KotH> alzheimer?
  • [08:58:32] <KotH> ;->
  • [08:58:39] <woglinde> right
  • [08:58:44] <woglinde> who are you by the way?
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  • [08:59:26] <KotH> i'm your darkest nightmare!
  • [08:59:51] <woglinde> hm no that was yesterday someone else
  • [09:00:50] <KotH> right...
  • [09:00:55] <KotH> i'm your darkest chocolate nightmare!
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  • [09:39:45] <Prashant> Hey guys,.. Does anyone know where I can buy the Inertial Sensor cape for BB Black
  • [09:40:24] <Prashant> It seems the one listed on auth. page is not on sale anymore
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  • [09:43:40] <LetoThe2nd> well ask the manufacturer - if they don't sell it anymore, then there is none probably.
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  • [14:03:55] <Arun> Hi..I need some urgent help regarding using the beaglebone black connected to laptop with windows 8..
  • [14:05:00] <Arun> the drivers were installed successfully..but even after that I am not able to see the usb driver..when BBB is connected..
  • [14:05:17] <Arun> can someone help me if they have faced the same issue..
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  • [14:05:39] <Arun> can anyone help?
  • [14:06:48] <LetoThe2nd> just use a real os. maybe linux... :)
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  • [14:07:47] <deanrock0> Arun: did you restart the computer after installing drivers? sometimes this fixes the problem
  • [14:07:55] <KotH> Arun: that makes 200EUR for consulting. please pay at the counter when you leave
  • [14:08:13] <deanrock0> you can also try to use ubuntu live cd to test if it works there
  • [14:09:56] <Arun> yes..I have restarted the machine..
  • [14:10:19] <Arun> but still facing the same issue..
  • [14:12:13] <Arun> BBB boots successfully and also I am able to install the drivers without any error..but I cannot see any new drive and also in the device driver...
  • [14:12:54] <Arun> what is the device driver name I need to check in the device manager?
  • [14:13:37] <Arun> any idea? what is the issue?
  • [14:14:20] <KotH> 15:06 < LetoThe2nd> just use a real os. maybe linux... :)
  • [14:14:28] <KotH> windows sucks, news at 11
  • [14:14:44] <KotH> (especially when it comes to usb)
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  • [14:15:39] <Arun> no one has faced this issue?
  • [14:16:42] <Rickta59> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/_y-fIgg-J7I Arun
  • [14:17:05] <Rickta59> * quick google search found that
  • [14:18:12] <KotH> Arun: no one sane uses windows for emebedded linux development
  • [14:18:21] <KotH> Arun: and even the insane people stick with linux
  • [14:19:53] <Arun> @Rickta59..yes I have tried this option..but no luck..
  • [14:20:07] <Rickta59> can't help here .. no windows
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  • [14:22:43] <lee> BBB has arrived!
  • [14:22:53] <Arun> can someone help?
  • [14:23:01] <KotH> Arun: apperantly not
  • [14:23:09] <KotH> Arun: as i said, noone uses windows here
  • [14:23:16] <lee> http://instanthallelujah.com/
  • [14:23:55] <KotH> congrats lee
  • [14:24:06] <KotH> lee: mayb the beagle be ever in your favor!
  • [14:25:35] <lee> hah
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  • [14:26:15] <lee> I am on holiday for over a week on friday though, so I don't have any time to use it now ...
  • [14:26:25] <lee> plus my gas powered soldering iron is MIA
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  • [14:40:18] <woglinde> koth I fear there is a lot of windows xp embedded outthere
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  • [14:48:45] <KotH> woglinde: but people doing embedded linux on windows?
  • [14:48:57] <KotH> woglinde: but yes, there are masochist with too much money out there
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  • [14:52:25] <woglinde> koth with virtualbox
  • [14:52:30] <woglinde> or colinux
  • [14:53:20] <ynezz> vbox must be amazing OE experience :p
  • [14:54:03] <woglinde> ynezz hint there is support for oe in eclipse
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  • [14:58:35] <KotH> woglinde: at least running linux...somewhere ^^'
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  • [15:29:41] <iandow_> I'm having issues with a new wifi usb adapter (TP-LINK Tl-WN722N). Works fine for 5-15 minutes, but then I see a kernel panic:
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  • [15:29:46] <iandow_> [ 2280.198912] INFO: task wpa_supplicant:362 blocked for more than 60 seconds.
  • [15:29:47] <iandow_> [ 2280.206342] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
  • [15:29:47] <iandow_> [ 2280.214721] Kernel panic - not syncing: hung_task: blocked tasks
  • [15:29:49] <iandow_> [ 2280.221131] [<c00105a1>] (unwind_backtrace+0x1/0x8c) from [<c0386211>] (panic+0x55/0x14c)
  • [15:29:50] <iandow_> [ 2280.229778] [<c0386211>] (panic+0x55/0x14c) from [<c00618cf>] (watchdog+0x153/0x1a0)
  • [15:29:52] <iandow_> [ 2280.237977] [<c00618cf>] (watchdog+0x153/0x1a0) from [<c003cac3>] (kthread+0x61/0x72)
  • [15:29:55] <iandow_> [ 2280.246262] [<c003cac3>] (kthread+0x61/0x72) from [<c000c77d>] (ret_from_fork+0x11/0x34)
  • [15:30:54] <iandow_> I'm inclined to think this is the wifi driver's fault, and that I should try to update it or find a different driver. Does that make sense?
  • [15:31:37] <KotH> iandow_: please use pastebin
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  • [15:32:03] <KotH> iandow_: and google for "hung task"
  • [15:32:18] <KotH> iandow_: and that's not a panic, it's just a warning
  • [15:32:29] <KotH> iandow_: and buy me some chocolate
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  • [15:39:45] <iandow_> sorry... I'm new to irc. I'll use pastebin in the future. thanks!
  • [15:42:39] <myself> welcome to IRC!
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  • [16:04:51] <cowboy> is beaglebone participating in gsoc this year?
  • [16:05:09] <jkridner> we're applying to be a mentoring organization...
  • [16:05:21] <jkridner> I've been struggling to get us all organized on time. :(
  • [16:05:39] <jkridner> right now, we need contributions to the ideas page http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas
  • [16:05:59] <cowboy> can we work on projects (with mentorship) even if it doesn't get selected?
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  • [16:06:23] <cowboy> thoug hit will right ? :P
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  • [16:09:32] <cowboy> does one need to know operating system/kernel programming to work on Linux userspace libraries ?
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  • [16:48:18] <Vaizki> no
  • [16:49:05] <CareBear\> cowboy : kernel-internal programming no, programming using the kernel probably yes
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  • [18:07:44] <ahsanalishahid> hi! I want to ask that what is the average execution time of interrupts when using bonescript?
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  • [18:08:01] <cyronin> hey, ive got a quick question
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  • [18:09:33] <cyronin> I've compiled uboot and set inittab and everything to use uart4 as the serial console, but i cant seem to make /dev/ttyO0 function as a normal serial port
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  • [18:10:22] <woglinde> wrong pinmuxing?
  • [18:11:54] <cyronin> maybe. I havent touched device tree to make this happen, just uboot and kernel boot arguments
  • [18:12:05] <cyronin> and the console works jsut fine
  • [18:12:27] <cyronin> but I cant seem to get ttyO0 to function as a standard serial port
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  • [19:19:13] <cyronin> is there a quick non-device-tree-overlay way of just changing the pinmux on a pin?
  • [19:19:25] <cyronin> /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux seems to be gone
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  • [19:28:59] <mdp> /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/*.pinctrl/pinconf-config
  • [19:29:44] <mdp> you won't find many people using it since most people have focused on the beagle-specific 3.8 vendor tree overlay approach
  • [19:30:31] * jkridner would love to see omap_mux patches land upstream and backports to the vendor tree.
  • [19:30:48] <mdp> jkridner, you need to read the above again :(
  • [19:31:05] <jkridner> is /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/*.pinctrl/pinconf-config upstream?
  • [19:31:10] <mdp> yes!
  • [19:31:13] <jkridner> and as useful as omap_mux
  • [19:31:14] <jkridner> ah.
  • [19:31:21] <mdp> more useful
  • [19:31:41] <jkridner> k, just want the backport patch then....
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  • [19:31:47] <ds2> how far along is the pinctrl stuff?
  • [19:31:55] <mdp> ?
  • [19:31:58] <jkridner> The move to 3.13 seems to be dragging a bit. Probably a good GSoC project.
  • [19:32:07] <ds2> pinctrl was suppose to be in flux as of the last ELC
  • [19:32:12] <cyronin> I just need to debug something with 3.8
  • [19:32:19] <ds2> something about pinmux and gpios being reworked
  • [19:32:21] <jkridner> Getting Debian out on the existing kernel seems to be what we want to do ahead of moving to 3.13.
  • [19:32:21] <mdp> ds2, works fine here
  • [19:32:43] <ds2> mdp: not so much working as much as they pushing through their new paradim
  • [19:32:52] <cyronin> im trying to get ttyO0 working as a normal serial port, and i notice its pinmux settings for its pins are like, 0x0000003f
  • [19:32:57] <jkridner> not sure if doing both together wouldn't be better to minimize the points-in-time of the screams.
  • [19:33:08] <cyronin> when I would imagine they should be 0x00000020
  • [19:33:10] <mdp> ds2, everybody uses it now upstream that wants to.
  • [19:33:18] * jkridner wonders if Angstrom has already made the 3.13 jump.
  • [19:33:21] <mdp> ds2, some people have no use for runtime pinmux
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  • [19:33:54] <ds2> mdp: but how stable is that API? the author wanted to do some relatively radical changes
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  • [19:34:21] <mdp> ds2, userspace has been consistent
  • [19:34:45] <woglinde> hm nobody can help cyronin?
  • [19:35:43] <cyronin> alright, I hijacked BB-UART1-00A0.dtbo
  • [19:36:04] <woglinde> I have no clue about the pinmux stuff
  • [19:36:20] <woglinde> cyronin do you have /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/*.pinctrl/pinconf-config ?
  • [19:36:30] <woglinde> when yes maybe google for it
  • [19:36:59] <cyronin> and made the pinctrl-single,pins = <>; line change the pins i care about
  • [19:37:23] <cyronin> and was able to get /dev/ttyO0 to operate as a standard serial device
  • [19:37:32] <cyronin> in my configuration
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  • [19:37:59] <cyronin> so i basically have confirmed I have a pinmux issue, but i know very little about how to get a device tree overlay to solve this problem
  • [19:40:00] <cyronin> (for context, I have a system where I am getting system console from uart4 instead of uart 1, accessed through a simple breakout board that fits onto the header. I achieved the console part by compiling u-boot with the am335x-uart4 configuration and setting the kernel console boot option to use ttyO4)
  • [19:41:16] <cyronin> so now I want to use /dev/ttyO0 as a normal serial port, and I just have to set the pinmux for 0x174 to 0x00 and 0x170 to 0x20, respectively
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  • [19:43:16] <cyronin> I do not have pinconf-config
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  • [19:43:49] <cyronin> I am running a 3.8 kernel and unfortunately other contraints are preventing me from being able to just update the kernel right now
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  • [19:53:14] <cyronin> so I'm basically going to just kludge an unused UART overlay instead to modify the pins for now
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  • [19:54:09] <cyronin> because BB-UART1-00A0.dtbo claims "uart1" for exclusive use and ends up using the "uart2" symbol
  • [19:54:39] <cyronin> but I cant make a BB-UART0-00A0.dtbo that claims "uart0" for exclusive use and use the "uart1" symbol
  • [19:55:03] <cyronin> capes weren't even intended to use that port
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  • [20:28:26] <kristina> anyone know which interrupt line the generic timer sits on on omap5432?
  • [20:33:35] <woglinde_> kristina porting bsd again?
  • [20:34:35] <kristina> yeah
  • [20:34:50] <kristina> the TRM doesn't mention the arm timer at all
  • [20:35:05] <woglinde_> how many time did you waste now?
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  • [20:35:42] <kristina> a lot
  • [20:35:46] <woglinde> *g*
  • [20:36:01] <kristina> I don't understand why the TRM doesn't tell me which interrupt line the generic timer uses.
  • [20:36:21] <kristina> Also, the registers are buggy
  • [20:36:26] <woglinde> because nobody reread it
  • [20:36:32] <woglinde> or some with no knowledge
  • [20:36:34] <kristina> reread what?
  • [20:36:39] <woglinde> the trm
  • [20:36:52] <kristina> Does the TRM mention it then?
  • [20:37:05] <woglinde> hm?
  • [20:37:06] <kristina> Or were you talking about TI's incompetence?
  • [20:37:12] <kristina> Or mine?
  • [20:37:13] <woglinde> exactly
  • [20:37:16] <woglinde> not yours
  • [20:37:18] <kristina> Ah.
  • [20:37:18] <woglinde> ti's
  • [20:37:22] <mdp> cyronin, since you asked for an alternative to overlays I gave you one. Given you are committed to 3.8, you need to learn overlays.
  • [20:37:22] <woglinde> no QA
  • [20:37:49] <woglinde> hrms openvpn hates me today again
  • [20:37:49] <kristina> it's the fun "guess the interrupt line" game
  • [20:38:01] <woglinde> hopefully you destroy nothing
  • [20:38:10] <woglinde> than the fun game is not fun
  • [20:38:13] <mdp> wrong channel
  • [20:38:15] <mdp> off-topic
  • [20:38:25] <woglinde> ndp what?
  • [20:38:51] <woglinde> I want to learn overlay too please give me EXACT steps
  • [20:38:54] <kristina> http://crna.cc/qocSbljPO4Vm2Bq
  • [20:39:27] <mdp> #linux-omap
  • [20:39:44] <kristina> me ... ?
  • [20:39:50] <woglinde> ah hm
  • [20:39:51] <woglinde> right
  • [20:39:58] <mdp> omap5432 is not on any beagle*
  • [20:40:03] <woglinde> beagle has no omap5
  • [20:40:07] <woglinde> yes yes
  • [20:40:09] <kristina> I see.
  • [20:40:27] <mdp> best help can be found at #linux-omap
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  • [20:40:43] <woglinde> best help could be found at TI
  • [20:40:44] <woglinde> but
  • [20:40:47] <woglinde> who knows
  • [20:40:50] <mdp> e2e
  • [20:40:52] <mdp> all things
  • [20:40:59] <woglinde> hi khem
  • [20:41:13] <khem`> Hi there
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  • [20:55:18] <cyronin> mdp: yeah I kinda figured.
  • [20:56:00] <mdp> oh well, sorry, it starts getting tough being on an old kernel
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  • [21:01:01] <cyronin> well, at least I have a workable, if rather ungraceful solution right now. I can go through everything later and see if i can update the kernel
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  • [21:59:33] <iandow> I'm having issues with a new wifi usb adapter (TP-LINK Tl-WN722N). Works fine for 5-15 minutes, but then I see a kernel panic. Beaglebone completely locks up. How do you troubleshoot a kernel panic? Should I try a different kernel?
  • [22:01:02] <woglinde> iandow hm compat drivers did not work?
  • [22:01:16] <tbr> which kernel version are you running?
  • [22:03:46] <iandow> checking...
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  • [22:07:21] <iandow> Angstrom v2012.12 - Kernel 3.8.13-00736-g2f4a566
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  • [22:08:01] <iandow> I didn't do anything special for compat drivers, I'm just using the Atheros drivers that were available in the kernel.
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  • [22:11:23] <iandow> another wierd thing, I can't ssh into my beaglebone's wlan0 iface. ssh thru eth0 works fine. I don't see any interface specific options in ssh_config
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  • [22:14:01] <iandow> I'd like to change the command line args for the wpa_supplicant process that runs on bootup. Does anyone know where that command is specified? I don't see it in init.d
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  • [22:18:27] <iandow> My current kernel comes from the beaglebone-3.8 patchset (github.com/beagleboard/), so I'm going to try upgrading that to 3.13.
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  • [22:18:59] <woglinde> iandow conman starts wpa_supplicant
  • [22:19:20] <woglinde> connman
  • [22:19:56] <iandow> How? I don't see any reference to wpa_supplicant in /etc/init.d/connman
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  • [22:20:23] <johnwalkr> does it? i thought typical /etc/network/interfaces controlled that
  • [22:20:33] <johnwalkr> if your interface is set to ???auto
  • [22:21:00] <johnwalkr> in there you specifiy the file for wpa_supplicant to load
  • [22:21:30] <johnwalkr> which will be whenever the interface is connected (including at boot)
  • [22:21:38] <iandow> Yea, mine is auto. And /etc/network/interfaces references the wpa_supplicant.conf file, but I still don't see how that maps to the wpa_supplicant process that starts on bootup (which I need to modify because it has the wrong command line parameters)
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  • [22:23:36] <johnwalkr> that seems odd, mine always works according to the conf file specified
  • [22:24:27] <johnwalkr> i don???;t know how it is called exactly though, just that it seems to read from that file on boot for me
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  • [22:25:18] <cgraham> Does anyone know how to change the beaglebone from 16bit display to 24bit?
  • [22:25:26] <iandow> I wonder, for example, how you could modify wpa_supplicant to startup with verbose debug enabled.
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  • [22:26:05] <woglinde> hm oh whats connman than doing at all
  • [22:26:13] <johnwalkr> that i don???t know iandow
  • [22:26:45] <johnwalkr> typical use is run wpa_supplicant directly, using verbose mode
  • [22:27:34] <johnwalkr> then once that works, use ifup. if that works, change the file pointed to in interfaces
  • [22:28:31] <johnwalkr> i???ve never used conman so idk about that
  • [22:29:38] <woglinde> hm I thought connman is default networkmanager in bbb
  • [22:29:39] <woglinde> hm
  • [22:30:38] <tbr> connman is on angstrom
  • [22:30:50] <johnwalkr> i use debian.. if it is installed i???ve never interacted with it
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  • [22:31:26] <johnwalkr> but if it???s on angstrom, maybe there is some issue with it vs wpa_supplicant?
  • [22:31:33] <johnwalkr> sorry if i gave bad advice
  • [22:32:06] <woglinde> johnwalkr no, iandow did not tell us which os he is using
  • [22:32:18] <woglinde> btw. you can use nm and connman on debian too
  • [22:32:27] <iandow> I'm using wpa_supplicant directly
  • [22:32:33] <woglinde> o.O
  • [22:32:41] <johnwalkr> yeaj but my advice coiuld be specific
  • [22:32:48] <johnwalkr> i have no idea actually
  • [22:32:57] <iandow> I've never run a connman command, from the command-line.
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