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  • [00:18:36] <yemartin> Hi all. Are the images on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images really the latest? I thought I saw some more recent but cannot find them anymore...
  • [00:21:36] <yemartin> For example: I can see BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.12.img.xz at the following: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
  • [00:22:29] <yemartin> However the "latest-images" on the official sites has a BBB eMMC flasher of 2013.09.04...
  • [00:26:11] <yemartin> There is also BBB-eMMC-flasher-v2013.06-2013.11.20.img.xz ...
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  • [01:17:23] <smssms> Anyone in the UK got a working BBB they want to sell?
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  • [08:07:24] <Guest77571> Hi, my beaglebone black goes dead when i flash its eMMC with Angstrom (2013-06-20) but works fine when i boot it from uSD card
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  • [08:20:14] <tbr> Guest77571: what do you do to flash?
  • [08:20:17] <tbr> meeeh
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  • [08:49:18] <hiredman> I am using R30 on the pru to set a pin and low, and I am trying to do so with precise timing, is there any lag (more than a few microseconds) between twiddling the bits of R30 and the pin going high?
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  • [08:59:28] <tbr> the pru being for real-time things, I'd hope that stuff happens instantly ;)
  • [09:02:43] <hiredman> that would make sense, this thing is just driving me nuts, I must be converting microseconds to instruction counts wrong or something
  • [09:03:53] <_av500_> well, if the lag is fixed, it's still precise timing
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  • [09:55:56] <anujdeshpande> how would one go about installing libusb-dev on bbb ?
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  • [09:56:11] <anujdeshpande> need it for gphoto2.
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  • [10:01:25] <aurelien> anujdeshpande: have you tried opkg install libusb-dev?
  • [10:01:37] <aurelien> (if it's in the package manager)
  • [10:01:52] <anujdeshpande> its not in the package manager :)
  • [10:02:14] <aurelien> like most of stuff :-/
  • [10:02:22] <aurelien> bah ... compil it from source :-)
  • [10:02:51] <tbr> did you update the index first?
  • [10:04:09] <aurelien> tbr, opkg search libusb-dev return nothing
  • [10:05:02] <aurelien> angstrom seems to need some packagers monkeys ...
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  • [10:08:02] <anujdeshpande> tbr aurelien i got it after an opkg update
  • [10:08:05] <anujdeshpande> thanks !
  • [10:08:16] <tbr> :)
  • [10:08:47] <aurelien> why opkg search libusb-dev does not list it to me?
  • [10:09:25] <anujdeshpande> opkg update first
  • [10:09:43] <aurelien> i have opkg update first
  • [10:10:12] <aurelien> # opkg update && opkg search libusb-dev
  • [10:10:49] <anujdeshpande> just do libusb
  • [10:10:57] <anujdeshpande> version number in between
  • [10:11:15] <aurelien> nop
  • [10:12:18] <aurelien> http://pastie.org/8647372
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  • [10:15:23] <aurelien> it's the original angstrom ... so what is going wrong? -_-'
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  • [10:30:44] <aurelien> an idea why angstrom does not give it to me on search?
  • [10:30:56] <aurelien> http://pastie.org/8647372
  • [10:32:44] <anujdeshpande> aurelien i am runnin the latest image
  • [10:33:47] <aurelien> bbb:~$ uname -a
  • [10:33:49] <aurelien> Linux bbb 3.8.13 #1 SMP Thu Sep 12 10:27:06 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [10:33:57] <aurelien> that is not the last one?
  • [10:34:27] <aurelien> opkg update && opkg upgrade does not give the last one?
  • [10:35:20] <anujdeshpande> i have the same
  • [10:35:37] <aurelien> :-/
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  • [10:43:29] <anujdeshpande> weird
  • [10:45:01] * aurelien have certainly missed a point -_-'
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  • [10:47:32] <p0ff> Any advice on how to start contributing to BeagleBoard? I don't mean GSoC.
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  • [11:23:26] <anujdeshpande> p0ff: pick a project from the projects page
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  • [13:53:52] <cityLights> need I echo it to the export file?
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  • [14:03:21] <cityLights> ok, I got the pwm to work, I am trying to drive a piezo electric buzzer with it
  • [14:03:33] <cityLights> I connect it to P8_13 and DGND
  • [14:03:40] <cityLights> I get no sound
  • [14:03:46] <cityLights> any help?
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  • [14:05:26] <cityLights> I hooked a piezo electric buzzer to P8_13 and I am trying to emit sound using the pwm
  • [14:05:31] <cityLights> can anyone help me?
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  • [14:29:16] <JarrettV> good morning!
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  • [17:18:49] <og_> hello
  • [17:21:11] <og_> has anyone here worked with the pruss?
  • [17:22:21] <og_> I can't get inputs to work, I have the device tree files up, and I can see they are configured correctly, with grep
  • [17:23:07] <og_> but it doesn't work with my python script and assembly script, I can only control outputs
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  • [17:55:43] <cemoua> Hi guys
  • [17:56:43] <cemoua> Does anyone can tell me the difference between the beaglebone et beaglebone Black ? Plz
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  • [18:00:28] <johnwalkr> black is faster, more ram
  • [18:02:10] <ssl_> hi #beagle! today i've got a hardware question. i got a coil and a magnet, which is going to move through the coil, inducing a voltage on the two outputs of the coil. i want to measure this with my beaglebone blacks AIN pins. 1. how would i have to attach the coil wires? one to AIN0 and one to the ADC-ground? 2. i did some tests and the voltage does not exceed 1.8V so this should be safe. but what about negative voltages? ie. when movi
  • [18:02:15] <ssl_> direction, the voltage will be reverse. will this damage my BBB?
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  • [18:11:02] <ssl_> anyone? don't want to destroy my bone...
  • [18:12:05] <johnwalkr> i wouldn???t
  • [18:12:24] <johnwalkr> i applied 3v to ground (not adc-ground) and it fried
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  • [18:13:19] <ssl_> yes i've seen all these red warnings in the SRM, so im extra careful here
  • [18:13:39] <johnwalkr> i wouldn???t attempt it
  • [18:13:44] <ssl_> unfurtunatly, i cant find anything about reverse voltages
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  • [18:17:55] <jacekowski> ssl_: negative voltage will be clamped by clamp diodes and at least damage those if yo have enough energy
  • [18:18:21] <jacekowski> ssl_: and after damaging clamp diodes there will be nothing stopping it from frying rest of the chip
  • [18:19:04] <jacekowski> ssl_: you either have to DC bias it or have active rectifier circuit
  • [18:19:21] <jacekowski> ssl_: and feed it through at least 10k resistor
  • [18:19:57] <ssl_> i guess that "have enough energy" part is very important, since the magnet is not moving very fast, i dont think i can damage anything
  • [18:20:05] <jacekowski> oh yes you can
  • [18:20:14] <jacekowski> those diodes are only few atoms in size
  • [18:20:42] <ssl_> oh well
  • [18:20:49] <jacekowski> basically, negative voltages into any input pins is a no go
  • [18:21:03] <ssl_> ok thanks for that clear statement
  • [18:22:18] <og_> hey guys
  • [18:22:38] <og_> does anyone work with the PRUs using Python?
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  • [18:26:09] <jacekowski> ssl_: all you need is add a DC bias that is high enough and then just use resistor divider to keep it within range
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  • [18:27:02] <jacekowski> ssl_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_tee
  • [18:27:35] <jacekowski> although i'm not sure how well it will work in your application
  • [18:27:45] <jacekowski> you may need some different way of biasing it
  • [18:28:14] <ssl_> ill look into that, thanks
  • [18:28:59] <ssl_> so basicly i need to add a 0.9 volts to my original input so that it's in 0-1.8 v range
  • [18:29:12] <jacekowski> yes
  • [18:31:17] <jacekowski> ssl_: besides, look at absolute maximum ratings
  • [18:31:25] <jacekowski> Steady State Max. Voltage -0.5V to IO supply voltage + 0.3 V
  • [18:31:51] <ssl_> what do these mean?
  • [18:32:04] <jacekowski> and absolute maximum means exactly that, exceeding it by any amount means destruction of the chip
  • [18:34:04] <jacekowski> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/am3358.pdf - page 80
  • [18:35:11] <ssl_> im not really into electronics, but what about if i take the 1.8v from the adc, but two equal and high resistance resistors (voltage-divider!?) so i get the required 0.9v. only question is how to add them to my signal :D
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  • [19:38:55] <hiredman> is my math correct, a simple loop MOV R1, 900000; FOO: ; SUB R1, R1, 1; QBNE FOO, R1, 0 in pru asm should run for 9000 microseconds?
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  • [19:48:59] <_av500_> what is FOO?
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  • [19:51:01] <smssms> So, anyone got a working BBB for sale in the UK?
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  • [19:52:34] <smssms> I would like to buy a unicorn, some rocking horse p** and a BBB...
  • [19:53:36] <smssms> Some hen's teeth too
  • [19:53:49] <tbr> fresh out of these
  • [19:55:16] <smssms> The unicorn, rocking horse p**, hens teeth or BBB?
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  • [19:56:30] <tbr> all of it
  • [19:56:35] <smssms> :(
  • [19:56:41] <tbr> there seems to be some sort of limited availability in general
  • [19:57:27] <smssms> Yeah, was wondering if anyone wanted to sell one on here...
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  • [20:17:23] <_av500_> how much do you offer?
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  • [20:18:52] <hiredman> av500: FOO is a label, there is a FOO: at the top of the loop
  • [20:20:20] <hiredman> I have this C code that pulses a pin with timings on the order of hundreds of microseconds, and I am trying to replace it with code that runs on the pru, but it doesn't seem to be working
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  • [20:24:26] <hiredman> seems like are 2 instructions in the loop, 5ns per instruction, 10ns per loop, 9000 microseconds * 1000 = 9,000,000 nanoseconds, 9000000 nanoseconds / 10 ns per loop body = 900000 loops
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  • [20:36:26] <mdp> _av500_, let the bidding begin
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  • [20:47:17] <mdp> hiredman, looks good
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  • [21:01:09] <hiredman> I wonder if maybe it isn't working right because the pru is in shift out mode instead of direct connection, anyone know off hand how to ensure the pru is in direct out mode?
  • [21:01:28] <hiredman> I guess the manual says direct is the default :/
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  • [21:03:46] <mdp> it is
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  • [21:06:20] <hiredman> mdp: do you know if toggling pins via R30 has some kind of lag?
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  • [21:06:46] <mdp> logic analyzer
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  • [21:08:05] <hiredman> I don't have one
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  • [21:28:08] <azzdude> Hey, is it possible to install debian on a beaglebone?
  • [21:31:24] <agmlego> Yes.
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  • [21:50:30] <ben___> I have a question about interfacing with an I2C DAC (the MCP2725). I'm looking at some code for the Raspberry Pi; they set a voltage maximum at 4095 and I can't figure out where they got that number from
  • [21:51:29] <agmlego> That would be the maximum value of a 12-bit number.
  • [21:51:43] <agmlego> My guess is your DAC has 12 bits of resolution.
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  • [21:54:18] <ben___> Yes it is. So just 2**12 ~ 4095 ?
  • [21:54:34] <agmlego> No.
  • [21:54:40] <agmlego> 2**12 = 4096.
  • [21:54:54] <ben___> right, they're setting it to 2095
  • [21:54:56] <agmlego> But since 0 is a possible value, you get a range of 0 to 4095.
  • [21:55:03] <ben___> ahhhh, rodger that
  • [21:55:09] <agmlego> 4096 possible values.
  • [21:55:47] <ben___> okay, thank you for your help!
  • [21:55:55] <_av500_> hiredman: ah yes, ignore :)
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  • [23:35:33] <Bank_> hello
  • [23:35:42] <Bank_> I need some help
  • [23:35:46] <Bank_> :)
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