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  • [03:05:42] <FROGGDOGG> i am forced to use Angstrom on my BeagleBone Black board due to some mono issue with ubuntu for my board not working. What is upsetting is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ has been down and not browsable to see what they offer. without that working or any type of package browser how does anyone know what works or not without writing the thing from scratch?
  • [03:08:00] <FROGGDOGG> is anyone here?
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  • [03:08:23] <FROGGDOGG> am i the only one on the planet in here looking? cool! :)
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  • [03:13:37] <rcalderon821> having problems booting from the sd card, already installed both debian and ubuntu on 2 different sd cards (4GB and 8GB), still unable to boot from the SD. Angstrom boots fine. When i press the boot button while turning on, the board does not boot.
  • [03:14:44] <slug> rcalderon821: how did you create the sd card?
  • [03:15:36] <rcalderon821> used the setup_sdcard.sh scripts on elinux.org
  • [03:16:04] <slug> rcalderon821: you shouldn't need to press the 'boot button' when booting from the sdcard
  • [03:17:32] <rcalderon821> slug: when i just let it boot when connected, it goes directly into Angstrom (i don't have any display connected, i connect via ssh)
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  • [03:20:22] <slug> rcalderon821: which image did you download?
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  • [03:21:39] <rcalderon821> slug: i downloaded the prebuilt image @ https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/wheezy/debian-7.2-console-armhf-2013-11-15.tar.xz
  • [03:23:09] <slug> rcalderon821: i never tried debian, only ubuntu. i have 13.04 and 13.10 running on sd card and eMMC on two different BBBs
  • [03:23:56] <slug> rcalderon821: did you pass the correct board to setup_sdcard.sh ? sudo ./setup_sdcard.sh --mmc /dev/sdX --uboot bone
  • [03:24:11] <slug> rcalderon821: replace X with appropriate device of course
  • [03:24:49] <slug> rcalderon821: which card do you have?
  • [03:28:40] <rcalderon821> slug: yes, the script completes and shows everything installed on the sd card. I actually had the debian image from beaglebone linuxcnc (@ http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.mx/p/machinekit_16.html) working on a 16 GB drive; i needed the sd card for another and stopped using my beaglebone for a while. Once i tried to setup on the other sd cards, i was unable to get it to boot
  • [03:29:20] <rcalderon821> slug: the sd cards i've been trying to use are a 4 GB Kingston and a 8 GB Samsung
  • [03:29:54] <slug> rcalderon821: I meant, what dev card do you have ?
  • [03:31:47] <rcalderon821> slug: the board is a beaglebone black rev A5
  • [03:32:17] <slug> rcalderon821: can you connect to the serial port of the card ?
  • [03:34:12] <rcalderon821> i don't have a serial to usb cable
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  • [03:38:27] <slug> rcalderon821: you can try to boot your sdcard from your host computer, using qemu
  • [03:39:54] <rcalderon821> slug: let me try that. Thanks btw
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  • [04:01:25] <rcalderon821> slug: currently trying to boot under qemu using qemu-system-arm -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel /sdcard_boot_partition/u-boot.img, but crashes
  • [04:02:39] <slug> are you passing something like: -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda /dev/sdX , replacing sda2 and sdX where appropriate ?
  • [04:03:45] <rcalderon821> slug: no, let me try adjusting that. First time using qemu
  • [04:07:39] <canid> has anybody here been using php5 on debian on the BBB?
  • [04:08:16] <canid> I appear to have found a bug in fopen() and I'm not sure if it's just me.
  • [04:09:19] <Dr{Who}> canid: test code or anything to reproduce?
  • [04:10:43] <canid> http://pastebin.com/nJj5rEP9
  • [04:11:09] <canid> I made that paste of my case, but it seems to be consistent in any use of fopen() so far
  • [04:13:46] <canid> fopen returns true, fgets() gives a warning, fclose() gives a warning then it closes up my tags and finishes
  • [04:14:16] <Dr{Who}> what warning ?
  • [04:14:27] <canid> my ifs evaluate true, so the else is never reached, but I get no lines from the file
  • [04:14:30] <canid> sec
  • [04:15:11] <canid> fgets() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given
  • [04:15:31] <canid> then the same for fcose
  • [04:15:36] <canid> *fclose()
  • [04:15:56] <canid> var_dump shows $fh to be bool(true)
  • [04:16:45] <Vaizki_> :O
  • [04:17:19] <Vaizki_> Sounds very weird...
  • [04:17:23] <canid> next I'll try opening a file I know I can't read, to make sure that is returning bool(false) properly, though I seem to remember it doing that
  • [04:18:19] <Dr{Who}> code is wrong. its assigning the result of the test not the handle.
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  • [04:20:00] <canid> I'll look at that harder
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  • [04:20:42] <canid> parentheses misplaced?
  • [04:20:46] <Dr{Who}> you need to put the assignment in paren.
  • [04:21:12] <Dr{Who}> $fh is assigned the boolean result of the comparison. not the handle.
  • [04:21:13] <canid> it does return false when I try to open a file I have no permission for
  • [04:21:17] <canid> pl
  • [04:21:18] <canid> *ok
  • [04:22:23] <canid> cool; I got to make an ass of myself in front of everyone :P
  • [04:22:37] <Dr{Who}> :) na been there done that..
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  • [04:26:31] <rcalderon821> slug: even with the arguments you suggested, the emulator still crashes
  • [04:27:32] <slug> rcalderon821: yeah, i was trying to do the same here, it used to work, I'm getting a crash too. odd.
  • [04:29:50] <rcalderon821> slug: could it had been a change on the scripts? i had a previous version that was working without a problem, but i've noticed that it always download an installer. Could it be the cause?
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  • [04:32:41] <rcalderon821> I deleted the MMO file trying to force the boot from the sdcard, now i am also unable to access Angstrom :_(
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  • [04:39:47] <slug> rcalderon821: i was referring to the qemu crashing, let me try with another image. I was able to boot the Angstrom image using qemu: http://stackoverflow.com/a/19679064
  • [04:40:05] <slug> rcalderon821: let me try with a sdcard now
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  • [04:55:23] <slug> rcalderon821: weird, i can boot the beaglexm image but not the beaglebone :(
  • [04:55:34] <slug> rcalderon821: using qemu
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  • [04:56:37] <slug> i get something like: qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x402f0400
  • [04:57:16] <thebeagle> i have a beagle bone black and something just happened with my power supply and now when i hit the power button an led flashes on quickly then nothing else happens, do you think its bricked
  • [04:58:05] <rcalderon821> do you know any way to restore the MMO file on the emmc on the bone? I deleted that one and now i can't boot on sd card or the emmc
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  • [05:00:55] <slug> rcalderon821: you will have to be able to boot something in the first place
  • [05:01:24] <slug> rcalderon821: or reinstall
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  • [05:03:42] <slug> rcalderon821: you should get a serial cable, it's useful for this kind of stuff
  • [05:05:22] <rcalderon821> yeah, i'll order one to be prepared. should i get ready and start buying another bone, or do you think this one can still be saved?
  • [05:06:10] <slug> rcalderon821: i don't think there's anything wrong with your BBB
  • [05:06:28] <slug> rcalderon821: you can reinstall from scratch if you don't care what's in the eMMC
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  • [05:08:14] <slug> rcalderon821: you can try this: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black : 1. wget https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/saucy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; 2. unxz BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; 3 . sudo dd if=./BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img of=/dev/sdX
  • [05:08:28] <slug> I would be surprised if it doesn't work
  • [05:09:26] <rcalderon821> yeah, i was working before with everything on the sdcard, so there's nothing on the emmc. I'll try that now
  • [05:10:00] <slug> rcalderon821: i followed this procedure for one of my BBBs and it's working fine.
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  • [05:35:52] <Dr{Who}> just pondering.. It would be easy to update the fat directly to remove the delete flag. Not likely that any blocks were reused..
  • [05:43:29] <rcalderon821> slug: installed the flasher on the sd card, connected the usb cord while holding the boot button, only the power light comes on, waited for 2 minutes but none of the user lights came on
  • [05:44:18] <slug> rcalderon821: do you have a good power supply instead of the usb connection ?
  • [05:50:45] <rcalderon821> im using a power supply of a cellphone (5 v @ 1 A max)
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  • [06:03:16] <Dr{Who}> rcalderon821: all 4 lights will come on right away after power with s2 held down. If its not then its likely the image on the uSD is not correct. How did you create your uSD?
  • [06:08:41] <rcalderon821> Dr{Who}: used sudo dd if=./BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img of=/dev/sdb , where sdb was the uSD card
  • [06:09:55] <Dr{Who}> maybe the img was corrupt? confirm with md5sum
  • [06:11:43] <Dr{Who}> if we had a ttl serial it would say just guessing based upon symptoms. The boot process is well documented on the BBB. if the button is pushed it will boot from the uSD first if it sees a valid disk format. This is hard coded in ROM.
  • [06:15:27] <rcalderon821> verified with the md5sum, returrned the correct key; however, i did not format the sd card before using dd. I'll retry again now
  • [06:15:43] <canid> got my script working properly. Thanks for your held Dr{Who}
  • [06:15:56] <Dr{Who}> canid: cool..
  • [06:17:48] <Dr{Who}> rcalderon821: just to confirm you did download the compressed image and then decompressed it to a .img file name?
  • [06:19:51] <Dr{Who}> and ya formatting is not necessary. The image contains the format. The partitioning is very specific to allow uboot to find it and only a few k of code.
  • [06:20:08] <rcalderon821> Dr{Who}: yes. I downloaded the image using wget https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/saucy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; after verifying the md5sum, performed unxz BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; finally, the sudo dd if=./BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img of=/dev/sdX
  • [06:20:38] <Dr{Who}> hmm. ok odd. sync?
  • [06:23:09] <rcalderon821> im sorry, what do you mean by sync?
  • [06:23:39] <Dr{Who}> sync command to flush all bytes to the physical device. Not using Linux?
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  • [06:24:03] <Dr{Who}> I do it by habbit not sure if it is necessary but I like to know my disk are in sync :)
  • [06:24:05] <sakshi> hello
  • [06:24:27] <sakshi> i am new to board
  • [06:25:13] <Dr{Who}> rcalderon821: when you put the disk into a system and mount it whats on first partition?
  • [06:25:30] <Dr{Who}> should be all the uboot stuff and the kernel
  • [06:26:15] <rcalderon821> yes, im on Ubuntu, but still learning how to use Linux.
  • [06:27:04] <Dr{Who}> i guess the best comparison is to use ubuntu and eject the disk. The eject in the GUI will do any syncing. Did you eject or just yank out the disk?
  • [06:27:43] <rcalderon821> finished doing the dd to the sd card, when mounted, shows two partitions, on the first (boot partition) shows the uboot and kernel
  • [06:28:17] <Dr{Who}> ok unmount type "sync" in a shell as root a few times or eject the disk from the GUI. then try again.
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  • [06:28:51] <rcalderon821> and after the dd finished, i would just yank it out as i it didn't show on the gui
  • [06:29:09] <rcalderon821> ok, so i perform the dd again, then sync again?
  • [06:29:20] <Dr{Who}> I would yes.
  • [06:30:05] <rcalderon821> let me take a shot at it. Thanks for the help, by the way
  • [06:30:16] <Dr{Who}> np. glad to help.
  • [06:44:20] <canid> lol
  • [06:44:44] <canid> I left more information in my paste than I should and nobody's attacked my server yet
  • [06:48:32] <rcalderon821> Dr{Who}: finished the dd and the sync, retried on the bone, pressing and without pressing the boot button, still no user lights turn on
  • [06:49:07] <Dr{Who}> hmm.
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  • [06:49:48] <Dr{Who}> is this unit stand alone unplugged from a host no usb devices etc etc.
  • [06:50:47] <rcalderon821> also tried both ways, first with the power supply and afterwards from the usb to see if it changed. No, right now nothing is connected to the bone
  • [06:51:59] <Dr{Who}> could you try another image. Try an angstrom image the most recent.
  • [06:52:17] <Dr{Who}> I presume you dont have a ttl serial adapter..
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  • [06:58:35] <rcalderon821> i downloaded the angstrom image and currently dd to the sdcard. No, i haven't bought the ttl serial adapter but i'm right about to order one now
  • [07:01:53] <canid> don't get the $3 one from DX :D
  • [07:02:19] <Dr{Who}> canid: do tell what item #
  • [07:02:32] <canid> sec
  • [07:02:44] <Dr{Who}> FTDI is just up the road from me so well I like to keep it local :)
  • [07:03:38] <rcalderon821> yeah, since i have to have them mailed (i live on Mexico) through Newark, i'll be getting the FTDI TTL-232R-3V3
  • [07:04:04] <canid> http://dx.com/p/pl2303hx-usb-to-ttl-converter-module-149859
  • [07:04:52] <Dr{Who}> and whats the gripe?
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  • [07:04:56] <canid> bought two, was not able to get eiter to work at either voltage level
  • [07:05:03] <canid> not with any device
  • [07:05:23] <canid> of course they have always been excellent with fixing any problems I've had wtih DOA
  • [07:05:53] <canid> and it's hard to beat a lot of their prices
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  • [07:06:52] <rcalderon821> canid: i see, they sell it for 1/8 the price of the one i ordered D:
  • [07:06:57] <canid> yeah
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  • [07:07:44] <Dr{Who}> I think I got my last few from DX looks similar to this that work very well. Will have to check when I get to the office.
  • [07:08:08] <canid> I like to try to buy cheap because I'm usually pretty poor, but I try not to get bent when it doesn't go well, and I certainly respect a business that strives to please people on another continent over a couple of bucks.
  • [07:13:06] <rcalderon821> well, working with high volumes, it is understandable it can happen, and more oftenly with electronics
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  • [07:17:08] <Dr{Who}> I would rather stick with the ftdi chips I guess mostly for trust of the drivers not having stuff I dont want in it.
  • [07:17:59] <canid> makes science
  • [07:19:34] <Dr{Who}> I use an ftdi chip on one of my own products and though I hate the cost of the chip it just works and I dont have customers with driver issues.
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  • [07:43:14] <rcalderon821> Dr{Who]: finally finished the dd to the sd card, tried to boot on the bone (from power supply or usb), still no reaction
  • [07:43:50] <rcalderon821> ran sync before removing the sd card from my laptop
  • [07:47:57] <canid> quit spiders! spiders!
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  • [08:01:30] <rcalderon821> Dr{Who} and slug, thanks for help, guess i'll be wrapping it for tonight. Ordered another BBB and a FTDI serial cable, hopefully when those arrive I can continue to troubleshoot
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  • [13:25:52] <vmayoral> hi everyone, i was the other day speaking about the BB and the BBB in my research center when a question popped out, ??how many BeagleBones (Black) have been sold so far?. I could just guess but maybe some of you have a more accurate answer?
  • [13:26:36] <KotH> vmayoral: why is that of importance?
  • [13:26:47] <vmayoral> it is not, it is not
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  • [13:27:00] <vmayoral> just wanted to throw the question here
  • [13:27:10] <vmayoral> a guy asked it and i guessed around 20k units
  • [13:27:26] <vmayoral> so i just wonder if my guess was accurate
  • [13:27:32] <KotH> it's not :)
  • [13:27:45] <KotH> last i heard was multiple times that number
  • [13:27:57] <KotH> and that was some time ago, not including OEM and stuff
  • [13:28:02] <honestly> of course it's multiple times that number
  • [13:28:12] <honestly> but maybe the factor is 1 :P
  • [13:28:21] <KotH> eh..
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  • [13:28:31] <vmayoral> i see :)
  • [13:28:31] <honestly> >_>
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  • [13:28:39] <vmayoral> thanks for sharing your opinion
  • [13:28:48] <honestly> so would 100k be a good estimation?
  • [13:29:17] <KotH> iirc it's somewhere in the range of 100k-500k for standard bbb
  • [13:29:30] <vmayoral> wow...
  • [13:29:41] <vmayoral> i was definitely mistaken then
  • [13:30:22] <vmayoral> so then maybe we can talk about 1 million BeagleBones (black included) around the world
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  • [13:30:43] <KotH> vmayoral: i dont think so
  • [13:30:52] <KotH> the bbb is not as popular as the rpi
  • [13:30:59] <KotH> and they dont have as aggresive marketing
  • [13:31:47] <honestly> throw in the beagleboard as well
  • [13:31:52] <honestly> and xM
  • [13:32:13] <honestly> might make it to a million then?
  • [13:32:23] <KotH> no idea
  • [13:32:35] <KotH> i dont know any numbers for bb bbw and bbxm
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  • [13:53:32] <BBB_alex> Hey guys
  • [13:54:20] <BBB_alex> Has anyone experience with one wire?
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  • [13:59:46] <BBB_alex> Has anyone experience with one wire?
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  • [14:04:40] <KotH> BBB_alex: no, nobody ever did anything with one wire
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  • [14:07:14] <tbr> lol
  • [14:08:01] <thow> well, some suicides have some experience with one wire
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  • [14:20:40] <IgorP> Hi team :)
  • [14:21:13] <KotH> Hi lone gunsman ;)
  • [14:21:14] <IgorP> Av500, Can you help me again?
  • [14:21:20] <IgorP> KoTH!!!
  • [14:21:21] <IgorP> :)
  • [14:21:24] <IgorP> hi
  • [14:21:59] <KotH> i think av500 went to the big room with the high blue ceiling
  • [14:22:02] <IgorP> Koth, can u help me?
  • [14:22:06] <KotH> no i cannot
  • [14:22:14] <KotH> because i dont know what your problem is ;)
  • [14:22:21] <IgorP> omg :)
  • [14:22:30] <IgorP> i change milk to meat :)
  • [14:22:39] <IgorP> i change chocolato to meat :)
  • [14:22:40] <KotH> that sounds better :=
  • [14:22:46] <KotH> :)
  • [14:22:53] <KotH> but i still need to know what your problem is
  • [14:23:06] <IgorP> KoTH, i am using VisualGDB in visual studio to programmer my beaglebone
  • [14:23:12] <IgorP> C++
  • [14:23:35] <IgorP> did all the code
  • [14:23:55] <IgorP> compiled it, ran well, but does not run on bbb
  • [14:24:19] <KotH> well, visual studio cannot compile for linux, nor can it compile for arm
  • [14:24:29] <KotH> you need to use a cross compiling environment
  • [14:24:43] <IgorP> in terminal, we have 2 steps, first create the file, (g++ etc etc), after, you have the second step, ./file
  • [14:24:48] <KotH> you also need to make sure you link against the right libraries in the right versions
  • [14:25:12] <IgorP> yep
  • [14:25:13] <KotH> are you compiling directly on the bbb?
  • [14:25:21] <IgorP> yes
  • [14:25:28] <KotH> ah.. that solves a couple of problems
  • [14:25:41] <KotH> what error message do you get?
  • [14:25:42] <IgorP> under linux over network
  • [14:26:09] <IgorP> no error message
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  • [14:26:38] <IgorP> not only runs, it compiles but does not run
  • [14:26:54] <KotH> what does "does not run" mean?
  • [14:26:57] <IgorP> sorry
  • [14:26:58] <IgorP> it does not run, it compiles but does not run
  • [14:27:06] <IgorP> :) yes
  • [14:27:24] <IgorP> aahh
  • [14:27:51] <IgorP> it compiles
  • [14:28:23] <IgorP> ========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
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  • [14:29:08] <IgorP> but do not want to just build, I want it to run
  • [14:30:03] <KotH> IgorP: no pmesages unles asked to
  • [14:31:11] <KotH> IgorP: have you tried to run your program?
  • [14:32:24] <IgorP> build is the same as running?
  • [14:32:31] <KotH> no
  • [14:32:33] <IgorP> buld is the same as run?
  • [14:32:39] <IgorP> :) this is the problem
  • [14:32:43] <IgorP> how run?
  • [14:32:48] <KotH> ^^'
  • [14:33:01] <KotH> maybe you should get a book on linux basics ;)
  • [14:33:22] <IgorP> here only has: Build, debuging
  • [14:33:23] <IgorP> no no
  • [14:33:28] <IgorP> :) in linux i know
  • [14:33:36] <KotH> http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
  • [14:33:40] <IgorP> I know run on linux
  • [14:33:53] <KotH> so, where is the problem?
  • [14:34:01] <janne> y4
  • [14:34:11] <janne> oops
  • [14:34:22] <KotH> janne: yes, that might be a very difficult problem to solve ;)
  • [14:34:33] <IgorP> I want to run the code in visual studio for bbb
  • [14:34:48] <KotH> IgorP: forget about visual studio if you want to develop stuff for linux
  • [14:34:55] <KotH> IgorP: visual studio is for windows only
  • [14:35:36] <IgorP> I followed this tutorial
  • [14:35:42] <IgorP> http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/beaglebone/
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  • [14:36:16] <IgorP> I will switch to linux and install the eclipse, thanks Koth
  • [14:36:23] <KotH> wtf?
  • [14:36:39] <KotH> i knew that there are people who like to hurt themselves... but.. this...
  • [14:36:48] <KotH> ^^;
  • [14:37:16] <KotH> IgorP: also learn to run gdb directly
  • [14:37:39] <KotH> IgorP: it might be not as user friendly as with a frontend, but you get around a lot of problems these frontends have with embedded systems
  • [14:39:32] <Kernle> Anyone has some idea how well android runs on the bbb?
  • [14:40:23] <ragnar76> Kernle: imho, 4.x not that good. it feels slow as hell
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  • [14:46:58] <Kernle> Hmm, okay :/
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  • [14:49:19] <IgorP> hahhaeh...koth :)
  • [14:49:40] <IgorP> run gdb i will search
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  • [14:58:22] <Kernle> ragnar76: Are there other android distris then 4.x?
  • [14:58:57] <ragnar76> i think a 2.x is out there
  • [14:59:14] <Kernle> Hm :S
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  • [15:43:42] <vvu|Log> website is moving and i cannot find the toolchains :(
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  • [16:07:06] <Nicholas> Hello everybody! I am novice in beaglebone. I want to use it in my project with my own pcb. I had a question about wire DDR_A15. Pin M7 DDR3 (U12) is not connected (NC in datasheet). I think I can ignore wire DDR_A15.
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  • [16:09:24] <Nicholas> Am I wrong?
  • [16:10:01] * KotH has no idea
  • [16:10:11] <KotH> but if the TRM says you dont need it, then you dont need it
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  • [16:17:19] <Kernle> Now its the RaPis turn to instill my anger :S
  • [16:17:55] <vvu|Log> same problems as the BBB ?
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  • [16:37:50] <fredon> Hi
  • [16:39:40] <fredon> which wifi dongle you advise me to buy for BBB?
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  • [16:40:39] <KotH> one that works with linuc
  • [16:40:42] <KotH> one that works with linux
  • [16:42:58] <fredon> i need use it like wifi Access Point
  • [16:43:12] <KotH> then get one that can work as an access point
  • [16:45:11] <fredon> do you know same?
  • [16:45:52] <KotH> there are lists of which chipsets support that
  • [16:45:55] <KotH> google for it
  • [16:46:14] <fredon> ok thANKS
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  • [17:31:34] <Kernle> vvu|Log: Nah... different problems, same scale
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  • [17:37:48] <Kernle> At least I got my android testcase working on the BBB. Thats something refreshingly new
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  • [17:47:57] <prpplague> Kernle: what is the intended goal of doing your evaluations?
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  • [17:51:05] <_SY_> hello
  • [17:51:27] <Kernle> prpplague: Comparing a BBB and RaPi. But it seems we picked all the wrong test cases. But nothing works as intended.
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  • [17:54:42] <prpplague> Kernle: yes, but i mean why compare the two?
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  • [17:56:13] <Kernle> No idea prpplague. Its just one of the projects we could choose from. I was forced to choose this, as my original project was not feasible with uni hardware *grrmm
  • [17:56:43] <Kernle> Most projects were like "Do x with board y", while y was Arduino, RaPi or BBB.
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  • [18:24:11] <prpplague> Kernle: yea, it's just odd because doing any type of comparison between RPi and BBB is like comparing a minicooper to a F-150 pickup, the comparison just isn't there
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  • [18:24:47] <Defiant> the BBB is the pickup?
  • [18:25:09] <prpplague> Defiant: yea
  • [18:25:30] <emeb> just gets better mileage. :)
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  • [19:38:36] <hitlin37> are there any topics to look for master thesis that's related to bb? it would be nice to do some open source project as thesis
  • [19:41:07] <prpplague> hitlin37: pretty much an wide open field
  • [19:41:07] <agmlego> Compiler for the PRU.
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  • [19:42:43] <hitlin37> prpplague: but i need a mentor as well.
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  • [19:43:15] <hitlin37> plus topics related to multimedia and embedded stuff
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  • [19:46:53] <agmlego> hitlin37: I thought thesis work was done with a mentor from your faculty.
  • [19:47:09] <agmlego> Pretty sure you should talk to your school if you need a mentor for that.
  • [19:47:52] <hitlin37> ya, i do have a prof from my univ but it has kind of stuff to have a company involved as well.
  • [19:49:07] <agmlego> Well, good luck finding that here.
  • [19:49:18] <agmlego> IRC channels != companies typically.
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  • [19:58:21] <honestly> hitlin37: ARM offers thesis work to students I believe.
  • [19:58:27] <honestly> they have student programs.
  • [19:58:53] <honestly> and my university is in a partnership with ARM that somehow involves us getting beagle boards.
  • [19:59:00] <honestly> so idk, might be worth looking into.
  • [20:02:43] <hitlin37> thanks honestly . Is there any link to look or just the arm website directly.
  • [20:03:21] <honestly> I might still have a flyer from arm about that, lemme check
  • [20:03:59] <_av500_> hitlin37: what uni are you at now?
  • [20:04:05] * _av500_ forgot
  • [20:04:07] <hitlin37> kth
  • [20:04:14] <hitlin37> dark city
  • [20:04:19] <_av500_> right
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  • [20:06:00] <honestly> hitlin37: haven't found anything
  • [20:06:14] <hitlin37> np
  • [20:06:16] <honestly> so you'll have to look yourself
  • [20:07:19] <honestly> http://www.arm.com/about/careers/students/index.php
  • [20:07:22] <honestly> there's this
  • [20:08:01] <honestly> no idea if they will let you do a thesis
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  • [20:42:10] <Kernle> Okay. So I got my BBB Android benchresults. Not that bad. I mean, for not having hardware acceleration (3.8 kernel). Question now - is there a prebuild android image which does have hardware acceleration?
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  • [20:51:42] <vmayoral> hi
  • [20:51:48] <vmayoral> anybody knows who's behind http://dev.ardupilot.com/wiki/building-for-beaglebone-black-on-linux/?
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  • [20:52:49] <ollym> where is the best place to post BeagleBone jobs?
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  • [20:53:46] <bikash> hii
  • [20:54:03] <vmayoral> ollym: not that i'm an expert but the people around here knows quite a bit about the topic
  • [20:54:27] <vmayoral> ollym: you probably might find the right person here if you're looking to hire somebody.
  • [20:54:35] <vmayoral> i would post it here i think
  • [20:55:09] <bikash> can any one say that where can I get the armstrong toolchain
  • [20:55:12] <bikash> ?
  • [20:56:04] <bikash> the link u have suggested isn't opening http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
  • [20:56:50] <ollym> vmayoral: as in post it in this IRC channel? I was going to post it in the mailing list but there doesn't appear to be a jobs board
  • [20:57:14] <ollym> wondered whether there may be somewhere else, but no worries, i'll just post it in the mailing list
  • [20:57:48] <bikash> help me to find toolchain please
  • [20:58:23] <vmayoral> ollym: yeap, i guess the mailing lists is a good place as well, do that ;)
  • [20:59:24] <vmayoral> bikash: try starting from here https://github.com/angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts
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  • [21:00:14] <vmayoral> anyhow, even if the angstrom's web is down, i believe there're quite a lot of posts around the web that explain how to set it up
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  • [21:00:30] <Dr{Who}> bikash: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ and then ya the git project.
  • [21:01:09] <vmayoral> didn't know that was available, nice!
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  • [21:03:06] <Dr{Who}> yas some broken links but its a good starting point.
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  • [21:07:52] <zer0s> Is the debian port a complete distrom or is it more of a demo ?
  • [21:07:57] <zer0s> *disto, or
  • [21:08:34] <zer0s> i've also heard reports that I'm better off using angstrom if I want a desktop
  • [21:08:50] <zer0s> any truth to this?
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  • [21:09:15] <LetoThe2nd> debian is debian.
  • [21:09:36] <zer0s> so the arm port isn't crippled?
  • [21:10:21] <LetoThe2nd> like in most major distros, there are things that are not available for arm. but mostly those are things that either upstream does not provide (if binary) or things that just don't compile on arches other than x86
  • [21:10:39] <LetoThe2nd> like, no virtualbox for arm.
  • [21:10:44] <LetoThe2nd> or no flash player.
  • [21:10:58] <Dr{Who}> or pci bus :)
  • [21:11:23] <zer0s> thats fine. i suppose i just need to use it as a lamp server and occasionally web browse
  • [21:11:27] <LetoThe2nd> Dr{Who}: hm, thats not particularly true. just because the beagle family has none ;)
  • [21:13:09] <Dr{Who}> LetoThe2nd: :) ya it can and has been faked to help trick utils that depened on it. I seem to recall having to build / patch something that would not work because of pci deps.
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  • [21:13:52] <LetoThe2nd> Dr{Who}: i don't know what you are talking about, but there are arm platforms that have pci interconnects.
  • [21:15:31] <LetoThe2nd> and if something does not build because of having a "hardware" dependency, then having it work without that dependency is either bugfix or feature, depending on POV. but thats totally distro/arch agnostic.
  • [21:15:59] <Dr{Who}> LetoThe2nd: That would be cool and ya I dont see why not its just a bus. I was referring to angstrom and bbb or was it Ubuntu i forget anyway some utils very useful for an OS were excluded because of them being broken if no Pci bus interface exists
  • [21:16:41] <LetoThe2nd> Dr{Who}: like i said - bug/feature. depends.
  • [21:17:25] <LetoThe2nd> anywas - off again.
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  • [21:59:12] * _av500_ does not care
  • [21:59:26] <Kernle> :(
  • [21:59:29] * Kernle cares
  • [22:01:23] <penth> how long does the bbb take to start flashing ? I've had the userboot button pressed for almost 2 min and haven't seen the four leds give thir initial blink yet.
  • [22:02:04] <penth> does it matter that i put the image on a 16g card?
  • [22:02:22] <tbr> penth: doesn't matter, but did you uncompress it before?
  • [22:02:58] <penth> yes. wrote the image to the bard w dd and confirmed it in the desktop
  • [22:03:09] <penth> s/bard/card/
  • [22:03:27] <tbr> penth: are the leds blinking at all?
  • [22:03:39] <penth> no, just steady power
  • [22:04:10] * penth hopes it's not bricked
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  • [22:21:10] <penth> making another card. fingers crossed
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  • [22:29:40] <vvu|Log> penth: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs
  • [22:30:07] <vvu|Log> if your board goes into usb boot mode you can flash it with this
  • [22:30:17] <vvu|Log> ~15 mins flash
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  • [22:33:31] <tdilly> Is it really safe to put a BBB in an Altoids tin? Wouldn't the solder on the bottom of the PCB come in contact with the metal and cause a short?
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  • [22:34:22] <tdilly> I put a plastic card in the bottom of the tin but I'm still skeptical
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  • [22:39:51] <Kernle> Any idea what to do if the BBB wont flash any light when trying to boot from SD?
  • [22:40:08] <vvu|Log> Kernle: have a serial cable aroun ?
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  • [22:43:22] <Kernle> vvu|Log: Nope
  • [22:43:51] <I440r> anyone here using a bbb?
  • [22:44:11] <vvu|Log> try and put the flasher on the SD card
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  • [22:46:04] <Kernle> vvu|Log: It boots okay from eMMC. I might have just messed up the SD flash. I will try to flash the SD again.
  • [22:49:34] <vvu|Log> yeah...flash the SD
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  • [22:52:16] <Kernle> Uhm.... ;-)
  • [22:56:03] <Kernle> I ofc meant just writing the image to the sd card
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  • [23:01:39] <Kernle> m( ... and no wonder a BB image is not booting on a BBB
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  • [23:18:33] <penth> wrote an 8gb card with the 6-20 image and flashing fine
  • [23:18:41] <penth> so my 16 needs a rewrite
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  • [23:44:08] <swilshy> Hello. Just downloaded an armhf precompiled ubuntu image to an sdcard for use in my BBB. Booted it up and all blue lights stay lit. No signs of life in my box :-(. I have used this sd card before successfully, anybody got any suggestions?
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  • [23:48:36] <swilshy> Anybody know where I can find ways of debugging beagle bone black boot process without a serial cable? Possible?
  • [23:49:25] <_av500_> sure
  • [23:49:31] <_av500_> but serial is the simplest way
  • [23:50:44] <swilshy> I wish I had one! Unfortunately all I have with me at my office is various usb cables, 5v power cord, sd cards and readers, ethernet cables, and my laptop.
  • [23:52:13] <swilshy> do you think its worth investigating other methods or just purchase a serial cable and figure it out later?
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  • [23:54:04] <Kernle> Compiling rowboat: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tousykrb3zs83xj/2013-12-02%2000.49.45.jpg
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  • [23:59:39] <swilshy> noob question: does the user/boot button actually make the beagle bone black boot from an sd card? Every tutorial I have found says that you have to press the button to boot off the card, yet my BBB has always booted an sd card automatically. What gives?