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  • [00:24:54] <mrpackethead> one has to wonder how long linus will stay in control of the Linux Kernel
  • [00:25:11] <mrpackethead> Torvalds, in a similar outburst just yesterday, hoped that 'ARM SoC hardware designers all die in some incredibly painful accident.'
  • [00:28:46] <honestly> lol
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  • [00:32:23] <SpeedEvil> He's got a point.
  • [00:32:45] <SpeedEvil> Unfortunately, there are no powerful drivers for self-describing chips in embedded space
  • [00:33:44] <SpeedEvil> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/5/5/35 - you may be familiar with
  • [00:34:38] <mrpackethead> he might hve a point
  • [00:34:48] <mrpackethead> but hes @#$%@#% annoying people who have lots of money
  • [00:35:56] <ka6sox> you can have the best point in the world but if you piss people off they won't listen
  • [00:37:31] <SpeedEvil> quite
  • [00:38:06] <SpeedEvil> making software developers lives easier is generally not high ont he list of embedded device designers.
  • [00:39:34] <mru> don't make it too easy
  • [00:39:41] * mru has to justify that hourly rate somehow
  • [00:41:01] <mru> linus doesn't seem to realise that increasing the cost of a system with a fraction of a cent is often too much
  • [00:41:35] <mru> and a pci-style architecture would increase the soc cost
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  • [00:47:31] <SpeedEvil> mru: quite
  • [00:47:34] * SpeedEvil sighs.
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  • [00:49:31] <SpeedEvil> On a sort-of-related-but-not-really-matter.
  • [00:49:53] <SpeedEvil> Is it possible for a generic bluetooth module to pretend to be a bluetooth headphone, for other devices?
  • [00:50:43] <mrpackethead> when you are makign 1M-10M of somerhign
  • [00:50:51] <mrpackethead> you can afford to spend more time on software
  • [00:51:03] <mrpackethead> if the hardware costs are reduce by $0.50 per device
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  • [00:56:38] <mru> more arm cpus are sold per year than intel cpus ever
  • [00:57:10] <mrpackethead> evenutlaly if it gets to painful
  • [00:57:12] <mrpackethead> it just forks
  • [00:57:25] <mrpackethead> or somethign new comes along
  • [00:57:51] <mru> well, lennart is busy ruining it from the userspace side anyway
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  • [01:18:16] <korenje> can someone tell me if this is ok: http://shrani.si/f/2j/Va/EWYMU44/pinmode.png
  • [01:18:54] <korenje> also why pin isnt on pullup
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  • [02:01:30] <TehCaptain> should "./mk_mmc.sh --mmc /dev/sdg --dtb dt-beagleboard-xm --serial-mode --firmware --distro wheezy-armhf" produce a bootable sd card for a beagleboard C4? I am not having any luck. Used the same scripts to create a working sdcard for a beaglebone black, with a different dtb option
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  • [02:02:58] <TehCaptain> i get "Installer for [wheezy-armhf] is using the Serial Interface" and immediately after "** Partition 0 not valid on device 0 **
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  • [03:09:22] <ptan> What is the proper way of getting a Beaglebone black up to date? Flash eMMC image 6-20-2013 -> opkg update -> opkg upgrade? Or is opkg upgrade flawed?
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  • [03:10:36] <ptan> opkg upgrade first gives me bad address problems -> fixed that with /etc/hosts hack -> then it hangs, then on hard reboot, opkg upgrade fails with Job for bonescript.socket failed.
  • [03:11:10] <ptan> Any thoughts, or should I just flash the 6-20-2013 version and not opkg upgrade?
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  • [03:19:30] <IamTrying> I bought a new Beagle board today. But how do i do the display?
  • [03:19:44] <IamTrying> I have no mini-hdmi cable. I have normal HDMI to HDMI cable.
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  • [05:36:00] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] timtianyang opened pull request #59: 3.8 LCD4 pin mapping (master...3.8) http://git.io/0uSB3g
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  • [06:25:32] <DaveDavenport> plug it in?
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  • [08:00:16] <KotH> moin
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  • [08:16:30] <IamTrying> DaveDavenport, What is the power supply input? I bought it yesterday from a shop here. But he just given me only the Board without any external tools.
  • [08:16:41] <IamTrying> DaveDavenport, What Else i need to see the output?
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  • [08:34:27] <koen> I case mouha shows up: he needs to install 32bit libs for the evil TI extractor to work, with 64bit only it will silently fail, hence the missing file
  • [08:34:30] <koen> s
  • [08:35:59] <_av500_> koen: arent you supposed to be offline?
  • [08:36:13] <_av500_> and congrats again
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  • [08:38:40] <AStorm> hello
  • [08:38:58] <AStorm> I'm having an issue with the DVI/Audio cape not being started at all in 3.8.13 kernel
  • [08:39:20] <AStorm> the actual thing I want to do is the usb sniffing - via g_proxy gadget
  • [08:39:41] <AStorm> ah, forgot to mention; beaglebone a6
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  • [08:41:13] <koen> _av500_: thanks!
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  • [08:41:22] <koen> _av500_: offline starts at the airport tomorrow
  • [08:41:30] <AStorm> I've built Angstrom yesterday, now I want to know how to patch that kernel with g_proxy
  • [08:41:39] <AStorm> yes, I can port g_proxy to 3.8.13
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  • [08:48:41] <AStorm> I'll try building the kernel manually (a'la build-kernel.sh)
  • [08:49:58] <koen> AStorm: go to the angstrom website and search for the "kernel workflow" entry
  • [08:50:16] <koen> and follow the instructions behind the "developers" tab on top
  • [08:50:26] <AStorm> trying again - the problem is that 3.8.13 in new angstrom doesn't work with dvi/audio cape
  • [08:50:42] <AStorm> I had that problem previously too with Sabayon - and I'll need the cape later
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  • [09:38:08] <StyxAlso> I'm running 'opk upgrade'i
  • [09:38:22] <StyxAlso> It's taking _quite_ some time :D
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  • [09:56:43] <AStorm> d'oh, the cape wasn't autodetected
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  • [10:08:38] <AStorm> somehow, the dts files were incorrectly named
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  • [10:08:42] <AStorm> that was it
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  • [10:24:24] <AStorm> hey
  • [10:24:39] <AStorm> does anyone here have the beaglebone dvi+audio cape asound.state?
  • [10:24:47] <AStorm> I get sound but it's terribly distorted
  • [10:24:51] <AStorm> probably wrong mixer settings
  • [10:27:21] <LetoThe2nd> koen: GTFO and stay offline! *congrats*
  • [10:28:58] <AStorm> ahha
  • [10:29:04] <AStorm> fixed it
  • [10:29:38] <AStorm> this mixer is real weird
  • [10:31:33] <AStorm> also anything on DAC > 50 clips badly
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  • [10:47:22] <AStorm> hmm, now I can go to 100
  • [10:47:39] <AStorm> it's a bit weird setup there, I could use some help with it
  • [10:49:27] <AStorm> ok, it's broken still, 50% of the time I get nasty static, otherwise I get clean sound
  • [10:49:32] <AStorm> how do I fix this?
  • [10:52:20] <quale> oh, whoops
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  • [10:52:35] <quale> I just did that too, and it filled up tmpfs and is now failing some installs
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  • [10:52:45] <quale> I think I might need to reflash now...
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  • [11:26:05] <StyxAlso> Yeah, best to do it on an SD card
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  • [11:52:33] <fzombie> USPS is such a bastard. They gave me a note saying that my package was intercepted instead of being delivered and asked me to talk to my postmaster. My new beaglebone black is being locked up by the government.
  • [11:52:38] <fzombie> What kind of threat can it be?
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  • [11:53:14] <_av500_> country?
  • [11:53:16] <fzombie> USA
  • [11:53:22] <fzombie> California, Bay Area
  • [11:53:25] <_av500_> oh
  • [11:53:55] <fzombie> I got a yellow and a pink slip which are recipts that they have my stuff with no explaining.
  • [11:55:01] <_av500_> fun
  • [11:55:56] <honestly> fzombie: did you get it from a normal reseller? rs / farnell / whatever?
  • [11:55:59] <fzombie> A lot of my other mail is also opened when I get it. Unless it comes from an insurance company or legal sounding office
  • [11:56:21] <fzombie> I got it from a college that had extra from a project.
  • [11:56:26] <honestly> o.O
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  • [11:56:39] <honestly> fzombie: oh, in the US?
  • [11:56:43] <fzombie> USA
  • [11:56:52] <honestly> it didn't cross national borders?
  • [11:57:01] <fzombie> From Florida to California
  • [11:57:05] <honestly> wow
  • [11:57:13] <honestly> that is fucked up
  • [11:57:24] <fzombie> It was used once in a astronomy lab
  • [11:57:40] <honestly> i'm sorry you live in a fascist dictatorship
  • [11:58:02] <fzombie> We have a pretty bad country right now. I wish people would wake up and take control.
  • [11:58:14] <fzombie> Trust mass media, and turn off brain = disaster no matter where.
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  • [11:58:56] <honestly> do you have any idea why the man is after you?
  • [11:59:09] <fzombie> Because I'm an honest citizen?
  • [11:59:45] <fzombie> I've had security clerances and background checks. Emergency first responder with a good record. No arrests or tickets. No drugs.
  • [12:00:03] <KotH> but do _they_ know that?
  • [12:00:19] <fzombie> If they checked their computer maybe.
  • [12:00:53] <honestly> having a security clearance means the government knows everything about you
  • [12:00:58] <fzombie> I've got photo ID in many states and federal databases.
  • [12:01:07] <honestly> it also means they mostly own you
  • [12:01:21] <fzombie> Not exactly, depends on the clearance.
  • [12:01:25] <KotH> what a weird country you have
  • [12:01:27] <honestly> so that could be part of the reason
  • [12:01:28] <fzombie> and mine is expired
  • [12:01:51] * KotH has also a security clearance, but his gov doesnt own him
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  • [12:02:39] <KotH> our hobbit is back!
  • [12:02:49] <fzombie> I was a supervisor of port security, also had a general and federal clearance on another job where I was in charge of a high value target, They know I'm not a threat.
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  • [12:03:06] <fzombie> general = "private company" btw
  • [12:03:20] <fzombie> they just hire out govt resources to run the check
  • [12:05:21] <fzombie> I got this idiot on the phone saying "First-Class parcels are protected, but Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence and therefore may be opened without a warrant. He said the main issue I can bring up is that it's being delivered late.
  • [12:05:38] <KotH> rotfl
  • [12:05:59] <fzombie> and there is no information why my stuff was opened and heald
  • [12:08:00] <KotH> such behaviour would be highly illegal in any democratic country
  • [12:08:12] <fzombie> My safe project will have to wait. I got a nice safe that's bolted to the concrete in my house. It's got protected ports in the back so I can add Power, LAN, and a USB port.
  • [12:08:25] <fzombie> I was going to use it to back up all my data. A nice hard drive stack in a fireproof safe.
  • [12:08:55] <fzombie> KotH, nah democratic means "majority rule" meaning that a lot of people are not represented.
  • [12:09:04] <fzombie> abuse is bound to happen
  • [12:09:10] <KotH> yeah right
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  • [12:09:20] <fzombie> now a "democratic republic" has a constitution that protects minority.
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  • [12:09:31] <fzombie> however the USA has gorwn fond of ignoring that part.
  • [12:09:45] <KotH> fzombie: i live in one of the most democratic countries of the world, and i can tell you that abuse of "majority"'s power is the least of our concerns
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  • [14:26:27] <Woody_> Hi,
  • [14:27:24] <Woody_> hi
  • [14:27:36] <Woody_> anyone there?
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  • [14:28:31] <BeagleBreaker> heello
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  • [15:07:17] <korenje> anyone here?
  • [15:07:59] <thurgood> lot's here... few ever reply to "anyone here" type messsages
  • [15:08:02] <korenje> http://shrani.si/f/2j/Va/EWYMU44/pinmode.png
  • [15:08:12] <korenje> can someone tell me why is this not going to pull-up
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  • [15:26:29] <rocky|beagle> I'm having trouble connecting to my beaglebone. I'm using a fresh image, and am using external power. The boot log on serial is very garbled, but I included it anyway. In this pastie is the tail of dmesg on my host machine, lsusb, and the boot log of the beagle. Help is appreciated, I've been trying to figure out what's wrong for a day now. http://pastiebin.com/5235d0c29ced4
  • [15:27:22] <rocky|beagle> one more thing to note, is that I'm trying to boot off of an sdcard
  • [15:27:27] <thurgood> korenje: are you putting it into mode 7? I thought that was safemode/disabled
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  • [15:32:38] <Stefan____> Anyone who can help me with 1 wire and dallas ds18b20. My problem is that would like to use more than one bus (pin). I have wired two separate areas each bus with 6 sensors in my house. I have connected area A with pin 22 and area B with pin 26. I'm able to read each separately having two different .dts overlays but not at the same time. If I load both overlays I only see the sensors in the area I loaded first. Im only seeing one
  • [15:35:51] <korenje> thurgood, I can't put it to mode 7 it seems...
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  • [15:42:10] <thurgood> korenje, I'd have to look at the srm but mode 7 has historically safemode, not a GPIO mode
  • [15:43:21] <korenje> well... I can't put it in any more... from 0-7
  • [15:44:53] <korenje> also arent modes in this sequence: cd_data3,gpmc_a3,pr1_mii0_txd2,ehrpwm0_synco,NA,pr1_pru1_pru_r30_3,pr1_pru1_pru_r31_3,gpio2_9
  • [15:46:23] <TehCaptain> has anyone here built an sdcard with debian for the classic beagleboard c4 lately from the netinstall script?
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  • [16:07:50] <rocky|beagle> DOn't know why I didn't try it earlier, but I switch the usb ports for both the usb connection and serial debug connection, and things are looking better now. It enumerates and serial isn't garbled
  • [16:09:38] <woglinde> yeah the wonders of usb
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  • [17:02:31] <SillyKnight_> I am writting c program calling Justin Cooper's BBIO Library. But when I try to set up EHRPWM0 pins on Beaglebone Black which correspond to P9_41 & P9_29. These two pins could not been set up directly from writing to /sys/devices/ocp.2. Do I have to use device tree overlay method to set up? Thank you.
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  • [17:04:08] <m_billybob> heh
  • [17:05:35] <SillyKnight_> hi
  • [17:05:55] <SillyKnight_> newbie here
  • [17:06:07] <ka6sox> yes, you need to use Device Tree
  • [17:06:18] <ka6sox> and create an overlay *or* find one that does what you want.
  • [17:07:39] <Stefan____> Can anyone help me with creating multiple 1-Wire buses for Dallas DS18B20?
  • [17:10:51] <SillyKnight_> I c thanks
  • [17:11:01] <SillyKnight_> Does that mean for all mux set up
  • [17:11:19] <SillyKnight_> has to be done through device tree overlay?
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  • [17:13:27] <woglinde> sillyknight google is not your friend?
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  • [17:14:32] <SillyKnight_> woglinde sorry, i will do that
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  • [17:21:49] <crised> Is a beaglebone suited for industrial use?
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  • [17:27:12] <StefanBjornsson> can anyone assist me with 1-wire and multiple buses?
  • [17:27:52] <DaveDavenport> A true open hardware, community-supported embedded computer for developers and hobbyists.
  • [17:29:41] <SpeedEvil> StefanBjornsson: what
  • [17:29:54] <SpeedEvil> have you read the maxim app-note about making reliable 1-wire busses?
  • [17:31:29] <StefanBjornsson> speedevil yes.
  • [17:31:47] <SpeedEvil> What's your problem?
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  • [17:32:42] <korenje> ok can someone tell me how do I mux pins when using kernel 3.8 ?
  • [17:33:31] <StefanBjornsson> I'm just not able to have two have two buses running at the same time. Im doing something wrong in my .dts device tree files. I can read both of the buses individualy. When I load both of them I only see the devices connected to the bus i loaded first.
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  • [17:34:05] <ka6sox> korenje, use Device Tree
  • [17:34:16] <korenje> how?
  • [17:34:22] <korenje> is it possible to do that in shell?
  • [17:34:54] <ka6sox> its not a shell thing
  • [17:36:13] <StefanBjornsson> SpeedEvil I have 6 DS18B20 connected to each bus.
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  • [17:36:33] <korenje> how do I do that in python?
  • [17:37:05] <SpeedEvil> StefanBjornsson: the answer to the question you're not asking is that you can add a bus switch to connect multiple busses together
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  • [17:37:49] <ka6sox> korenje, its not a python thing
  • [17:37:55] <ka6sox> its a Device Tree Thing...
  • [17:38:21] <korenje> so how do I do it?
  • [17:39:00] <StefanBjornsson> SpeedEvil Is that the only way? I had seen the bus swith but what i wanted to was to have one bus on P9.22 and another on P9.26 and just read from both of them at the same time. This is actually the document i read: Guidelines for Reliable Long Line 1-Wire Networks - Tutorial - Maxim
  • [17:39:09] <SpeedEvil> StefanBjornsson: no - that's probably sane
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  • [17:39:19] <SpeedEvil> StefanBjornsson: i have no idea to answer the question as asked
  • [17:39:23] <SpeedEvil> ^how
  • [17:40:01] <ka6sox> korenje, google for beaglebone black device tree
  • [17:42:00] <StefanBjornsson> ok SpeedEvil..Thank you for taking the time. I found a document descibing how to do this on an Arduino. and I have found in the forum something about 1w-gpio-custom.h to have 4 buses. But still I haven't been able to get this working on my BBB.
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  • [17:42:31] <SpeedEvil> it should in principle be possible to run multiple busses
  • [17:42:40] <SpeedEvil> It's not as if there is a hardware unit that's doing it
  • [17:46:01] <StefanBjornsson> Excactly.. There must be a way to create one .dts that can read from multiple pins.. I've tried that but it only loads the bus that I state first in the .dts. I have also tried to create two .dts one for pin P9.22 and another for P9.26 and the same story.. Im only seeing the bus that I load up first.
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  • [17:48:04] <woglinde> korenje at boottime
  • [17:48:32] <korenje> you change pin mode?
  • [17:49:29] <woglinde> korenje google beagle board pinmux devicetree overlay
  • [17:49:31] <ka6sox> StefanBjornsson, you are setting them as GPIO or something else?
  • [17:50:03] <StefanBjornsson> GPIO
  • [17:51:13] <ka6sox> and you are using P9.41 as well?
  • [17:53:55] <ka6sox> P9.41 has special issues
  • [17:54:29] <ka6sox> (as it is also connected to another pin internally)
  • [17:54:30] <ka6sox> never mind
  • [17:54:30] <ka6sox> I misread that
  • [17:54:45] <StefanBjornsson> Currently this is the only thing connected to the device. They work individually but not at the same time. I load bus 1 and can read from it. Then I have to unload it and load the bus 2. If I load both busses I only see the bus I load first.
  • [17:56:06] <StefanBjornsson> Thank for the help. I now have to run. I'll check in later tonight.
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  • [17:59:45] <woglinde> hi florian
  • [18:00:11] <woglinde> florian can you check whats wrong with planert.linuxtogo.org?
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  • [18:03:24] <florian> woglinde: will try
  • [18:03:44] <florian> woglinde: hi, btw. :-)
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  • [18:06:19] <AStorm> hey
  • [18:06:42] <AStorm> I'm facing an issue with the dvi+audio cape - audio seems to have some bit offset issue
  • [18:06:51] <AStorm> so sometimes it plays fine, but sometimes there's huge noise instead
  • [18:07:03] <AStorm> any ideas why? it worked with 3.2.x
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  • [18:08:06] <AStorm> in the meantime, I've "ported" g_proxy to this version; the port is kinda a hack, but still
  • [18:08:19] <AStorm> it could use more work, but I don't have the time to spare
  • [18:11:22] <AStorm> so folks, any help with this noisy audio?
  • [18:11:46] <AStorm> (I needed the g_proxy to sniff USB init of Lynx HiLo, to make ALSA UAC2 driver work with it)
  • [18:16:19] <AStorm> the TI kernel tree has some new patches apparently
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  • [18:20:05] <AStorm> nah, wait, it doesn't
  • [18:20:14] <AStorm> so, does anyone know how to fix that SoC?
  • [18:21:03] <woglinde> AStorm ask tomorrow
  • [18:21:09] <woglinde> today is weekend and quiet
  • [18:21:11] <AStorm> ok, I will
  • [18:21:19] <AStorm> in the meantime, testing that g_proxy
  • [18:21:24] <AStorm> hopefully it works
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  • [18:25:25] <ptan> What is the current verdict on opkg upgrade? Just don't do it?
  • [18:26:26] <AStorm> opkg upgrade worked here
  • [18:26:34] <AStorm> it just takes a very long time
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  • [18:26:54] <AStorm> I've updated from the new angstrom release though
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  • [18:28:28] <ptan> opkg upgrade fails from the "latest" release (6-20-2013) from Beaglebone page.
  • [18:28:44] <Wendi> This may be stupid but does anyone know the difference between a beagle board and a beagle bone?
  • [18:28:45] <ptan> AStorm: which image did you use?
  • [18:29:03] <ptan> Wendi: about $100
  • [18:29:16] <ptan> :)
  • [18:29:18] <Wendi> I mean programming wise
  • [18:29:25] <Wendi> lol
  • [18:30:02] <lagrz> hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to create a 'master' image from a current beaglebone black Angstrom emmc to a micro sd in order to easily clone it to other beaglebone blacks?
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  • [18:39:04] <AStorm> ptan: september one, latest, yesterday.
  • [18:39:26] <AStorm> I think that was 20130903 or such
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  • [18:47:11] <korenje> how can I know what pins is what on bbb in /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux
  • [18:47:42] <AStorm> read the dst files?
  • [18:47:48] <AStorm> (in /lib/firmware)
  • [18:48:11] <AStorm> *dts files
  • [18:51:08] <AStorm> http://gitorious.org/am335x/linux-am33x/commits/4d58e1f517868efab1dc6a2b5c9f52b8da0f62b8 <- one of these might have the fix for the ASoC
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  • [21:31:41] <AStorm> nvm, all these patches are applied - I suspect the patch that does the PLL switching is broken
  • [21:31:51] <AStorm> that's the only major change in the driver since 3.2
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  • [21:38:26] <AStorm> never mind, the mailing list answered. d'oh!
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  • [22:33:37] <StefanBjornsson> Anyone who knows how to create multiple 1wire busses on BBB that can be polled at the same time? I have two busses one on pin P9.22 and another on P9.26. Both work seperately but not at the same time. Each bus has 6 Dallas DS18B20 sensors.
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  • [23:27:52] <StefanBjornsson> Does anyone know how to create multiple 1wire busses on BBB that can be polled at the same time? I have two busses, one on pin P9.22 and another on P9.26. Both work seperately but not at the same time. Each bus has 6 Dallas DS18B20 sensors.
  • [23:29:20] <ka6sox> StefanBjornsson, tomorrow might yield better results...or patience too...
  • [23:30:12] <StefanBjornsson> Ka6sox: I understand.. I'll be here tomorrow after work.
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  • [23:59:51] <ka6sox> StefanBjornsson, what TZ are you in?
  • [23:59:58] <ka6sox> GMT -1 or -2?