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[00:31:04] <wmat> damn, it's getting chilly
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[01:33:05] <mranostay> wmat: even for a canadian?
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[02:06:39] <radius9> On the BBB, what determines whether it will boot off eMMC or SD-Card
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[02:21:24] <cahewson> Is beaglebone bkack fast enough to do ham radio digital modes?
[02:24:49] <keatont> 512MB of ram and 1Ghz cpu
[02:24:55] <keatont> I'd say yea it might be
[02:24:58] <das_plague> http://www.opensdr.com/node/17
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[03:18:11] <bb_> Trying to update the 3.8.13-bone21 to 3.8.13-bone24 kernel in ubuntu - doesn't seem to do it via apt-get - any ideas?
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[04:44:11] <mrpacket_> emeb_mac: the children of america thank you for the Bbb
[04:44:27] <emeb_mac> :)
[04:44:31] <emeb_mac> why?
[04:44:58] <mrpacket_> becuase the bcc cape, will be enteraining them
[04:45:15] <emeb_mac> how's that?
[04:45:32] <mrpacket_> they are in some custom show controllers
[04:45:33] <mrpacket_> :-)
[04:45:43] <emeb_mac> oh fun!
[04:45:55] <mrpacket_> lvoe these FPGA's
[04:46:55] <mrpacket_> we've had aosme biggy earthquqkes today
[04:47:03] <mrpacket_> a 6.9
[04:47:30] <ds2> island is sinking!!!
[04:48:41] <mrpacket_> bcc cape went flying
[04:48:45] <mrpacket_> and hit the ground
[04:48:48] <mrpacket_> :-(
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[05:12:20] <dustindsh078> thinking of buying a beaglebone black can the 48X2 headers be used as inputs
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[05:13:17] <m_billybob> hello everyone.
[05:13:43] <m_billybob> mrpacket_ dead doornail now ?
[05:13:57] <ka6sox> dustindsh078, yes
[05:14:01] <mrpacket_> dead_doornail?
[05:14:03] <ka6sox> after a fashion
[05:14:11] <m_billybob> mrpacket_ your bcc cape
[05:14:16] <mrpacket_> no, its fine
[05:14:20] <m_billybob> cool
[05:14:23] <mrpacket_> it was attached in a box
[05:14:55] <m_billybob> why did it go flying ? ( i just got in )
[05:14:58] <Vaizki> You're in NZ?
[05:14:59] * m_billybob scrolls up
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[05:15:43] <m_billybob> an earthquae tried eating your bcc cape ? yikes
[05:15:49] <dustindsh078> ka6sox ty
[05:15:58] <m_billybob> 6.9 thats not joke, how long did it last ?
[05:16:04] <m_billybob> no joke*
[05:16:19] <mrpacket_> 30secs or so
[05:16:30] <m_billybob> yeouch , everythign else good ?
[05:16:39] <mrpacket_> yes, no real damage
[05:16:45] <mrpacket_> but it was scary enough
[05:17:11] <m_billybob> im native californian, so yeah i know . . .
[05:17:26] <m_billybob> you guys been gettign hit hard down there the last few years though
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[05:18:00] <m_billybob> well i *was* native californian, but yeah just meant i know what you mean
[05:18:28] <mrpacket_> 45 aftershakes over 4
[05:18:32] <mrpacket_> since then
[05:18:44] <ka6sox> mrpacket_, aren't you on North Island?
[05:18:49] <m_billybob> aftershoke ?
[05:18:49] <mrpacket_> yes
[05:19:01] <m_billybob> aftershocks*
[05:19:06] <ka6sox> still on the same plate however
[05:19:45] <mrpacket_> we are on teh intersection of two plates
[05:19:48] <mrpacket_> thats the real problme
[05:20:21] <Vaizki> Usually is...
[05:21:46] <ka6sox> mrpacket_, I'm about as far away as you are too
[05:22:01] <mrpacket_> ahh, that was anotehr one
[05:23:02] <mrpacket_> the city has pretty tight building codes
[05:23:35] <ka6sox> are you in upper or lower?
[05:26:44] <mrpacket_> i'm 30km north of wellignton
[05:26:46] <mrpacket_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1006067_10151803292257661_1823566689_n.jpg
[05:27:06] <mrpacket_> interesitng. wodner if the 420ml bottles have a resonance
[05:27:15] <mrpacket_> that the 600ml bottles did'nt
[05:27:20] <mrpacket_> and is'tn coke a rip off
[05:27:31] <ka6sox> I see more than 10pins there
[05:27:39] <ka6sox> and you left a Split too...
[05:28:02] <mrpacket_> i got a split the other day
[05:28:05] <mrpacket_> was really impressed
[05:28:07] <mrpacket_> :)
[05:28:17] <mrpacket_> one of the so called impossibel ones
[05:28:20] <ka6sox> too much heatdpin
[05:28:23] <ka6sox> er headpin
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[07:00:20] <mrpackethead> ok i'm over that
[07:00:26] <mrpackethead> 5.0, 5.7
[07:00:36] <mranostay> goddamnit gmail
[07:00:55] * mranostay hugs attaks mrpackethead
[07:01:04] <mrpackethead> 65 earthquakes over 5.0 in the last 4 hours
[07:01:11] <mrpackethead> after then 6.5
[07:01:26] <mranostay> mrpackethead: geez NZ get that many?
[07:01:32] <mrpackethead> we are today
[07:01:34] * mranostay has never felt one
[07:01:49] <mrpackethead> never felt them like this.
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[07:02:57] <ka6sox> swarm it seems
[07:03:23] <mrpackethead> http://geonet.org.nz/p/earthquake/drums/latest/wel-seismic-drum.png
[07:03:29] <Russ> been almost a year I think since there was anything over 4.0 around here
[07:03:34] <mrpackethead> the drum says it all
[07:04:47] <Russ> looks like they are centered around a pretty uninhabited area at least
[07:04:48] <Vaizki> ufff
[07:05:05] <Vaizki> my cousin moved there and they're definitely not happy about the shaking
[07:05:55] <ka6sox> Vaizki, there is a reason its so ruggedly beautiful.
[07:06:56] <Russ> hmm...usgs data seems woefully incomplete for nz
[07:07:49] <Russ> ah, there you go, http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/statistics tells the story geographically
[07:08:44] <Russ> no wonder nz has so many pretty features
[07:08:57] <Vaizki> yea NZ is great.. I need to get back there
[07:09:14] <Vaizki> NZ and Iceland both
[07:10:24] <ka6sox> Russ, we honeymooned there...LOVE it...
[07:10:29] <ka6sox> need to get back there again.
[07:10:35] <Russ> ...wait, we did?
[07:10:38] <Russ> what?
[07:10:48] <Vaizki> dude.. and dude.. was this a vegas wedding?
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[07:11:10] <Vaizki> vegas wedding with a honeymoon in reno
[07:11:13] <ka6sox> huh?
[07:11:22] <ka6sox> my wife and I...sorry...too darned late...
[07:11:41] <Russ> but hey, if anyone out there wants to fly me to new zealand
[07:11:41] * ka6sox backs out before he puts *other* foot in mouth.
[07:13:55] <Tagger> Hi, sorry to interrupt your conversation :) I'm new to this BeagleBone community (well; new to the whole CC-sized computing really), and wanted to know if any of you knew if the BBone Black would run a stable Android OS and if there was any guide as to how to install it ? I've been searching quite a bit, but cant seem to find one (may just be the lack of caffeine still).
[07:14:40] <Vaizki> don't worry we'll just ignore you and continue on the gay marriage theme
[07:15:19] <Russ> google seems to turn up quite a few interesting results
[07:15:28] <Russ> (on android and rowboat/android)
[07:15:37] <Russ> er, beaglebone and rowboat/android
[07:16:10] <Tagger> Then I might just be totally off with my searches - as said - new to this whole thing :) Thanks for showing me what to look for :)
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[07:16:54] * mranostay scrolls up
[07:18:32] * mranostay regrets it
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[07:22:07] <emeb_mac> they see me scrollin' - they hatin'
[07:22:46] * KotH scrolls down
[07:22:49] * KotH doesnt regret it
[07:22:49] * mranostay hates emeb_mac only emeb_mac
[07:23:25] <ds2> It is Mt Doom getting active!
[07:23:39] <av500> ahoi
[07:23:47] <emeb_mac> arrr!
[07:23:55] <ds2> have you tried the BBB builds of android?
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[07:26:19] <mranostay> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/29
[07:27:32] <emeb_mac> still my favorite misspelling
[07:30:34] * KotH needs a slave living in the us
[07:31:05] <av500> +1
[07:31:10] <av500> what you need yours for?
[07:31:25] <KotH> shipping books
[07:31:44] <av500> ah
[07:31:45] <KotH> directly shipping to .ch costs twice as much as letting someone in the us get them and just send them on
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[07:32:03] <av500> I thought the same yesterday when googling some tubes :)
[07:32:35] <av500> but also to make the slave generally more miserable
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[07:33:45] <KotH> that too
[07:34:13] <KotH> but you know, slaves have rights too! you have to give them meat once per week, and allow them to run away for two weeks per year
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[07:36:41] <av500> two weeks?
[07:36:51] <av500> thats more off time than the regular wage slaves
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[07:37:03] <KotH> yeah..
[07:37:07] <KotH> it isnt as it used to be
[07:42:36] <av500> nod
[07:42:56] <das> I got about 7 weeks total
[07:43:04] <das> I'm a wealthy slave
[07:43:27] <das> well, timewise
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[07:46:10] <av500> das: yes, but you dont live in the land of the free
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[07:48:43] <das> av500: 'murica ? where citizens are free (ahem) and trading is free (sic) ?
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[07:55:20] <Russ> 'murica, its like C, plenty of rope to hang yourself with, and the freedom to shoot yourself in the foot
[07:56:01] <das> does look like the NSA is a GC though
[07:58:00] <KotH> Russ: and enough people who have no clue about C and shoot themselves and others?
[08:01:15] <Russ> every day
[08:02:05] <av500> you only have BASIC rights
[08:03:24] <Russ> your rights are just a PROLOG?
[08:03:38] <mrpackethead> what are we arguing about folks
[08:03:44] <Russ> not a clue
[08:03:54] <mrpackethead> dissapointing
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[08:05:18] <av500> mrpackethead: we talk politiks
[08:05:44] <mrpackethead> av500: can i install opencv for my homework project
[08:06:31] <das> in the cloud preferrably
[08:06:32] <KotH> mrpackethead: no you cannot
[08:06:52] <mrpackethead> this channel has gone to the dogs
[08:07:01] <mrpackethead> <ta-ding>
[08:07:16] <das> someone let us out !
[08:08:17] <av500> one my scope probe tips fell off, wanting to glue it back with a drop of super glue, my coworker warned me I am changing the dielectric properties
[08:08:22] <av500> sometimes I want to slap people
[08:09:22] <av500> to change their dielectric properties
[08:09:28] <av500> permanently
[08:09:55] <Russ> wow, it must be a 50GHz for someone to care about a little bit of superglue
[08:10:08] <Russ> don't those scopes come with a permanent on site fae?
[08:10:13] <av500> yeah
[08:13:07] <tolip> In Angstrom, what is the correct way to disable the GUI so it boots to a console? A pointer to GOOD user docs for angstrom would helpful too. please and thank you :)
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[08:16:55] <cverster> hey guys, my beaglebone randomly started giving me lag over putty this morning, so irratating! is this common?
[08:17:15] <cverster> short freezes every 3 seconds or so
[08:17:20] <cverster> format in order?
[08:19:11] <av500> reinstall windows
[08:19:47] <cverster> i have linux running
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[08:24:20] <KotH> av500: similar stuff here... got a ZS yesterday for using a 1mm trace between a power pin and its associated capacitor... in a 74lvcxxx design, clocked at a furious 1kHz!
[08:25:12] <tolip> cverster: you could try connecting with a second putty terminal and running 'top' have a look for that is hogging cpu cycles. I'm not a BB spurt but that is how I'd do it on a PC flavor of *nix
[08:25:16] <das> cverster: then why'd you use putty :S
[08:26:19] <cverster> what is 'X'?
[08:26:44] <cverster> x-window
[08:27:10] <das> cverster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[08:27:33] <cverster> yea. can I kill that?
[08:28:05] <SpeedEvil> if you don't want a windowing saystem
[08:28:16] <SpeedEvil> and are happy with the console
[08:28:20] <das> well, yes you can. do you want to, I'm not sure
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[08:31:04] <cverster> i dont really use windows
[08:31:11] <cverster> windowind*
[08:31:26] <das> yes, yes you do
[08:31:41] <cverster> i just use console
[08:31:47] <das> putty in console ?
[08:31:53] <cverster> unless putty is a windowing system?
[08:32:51] <das> ok, do that: save your current work, then kill X, see what happens then decide if you need it
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[08:33:47] <das> also, putty sucks
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[08:34:36] <av500> KotH: zs?
[08:39:50] <tolip> I want to kill X, and would like to find out how without using 'kill -9 xyz' every boot. A pointer to the config file to edit to prevent it from starting would be helpful. Or a pointer to the docs for learning how...
[08:40:06] <johanhenselmans> tolip: see http://www.berriman.co.uk/beaglebone-black-bbb-simple-web-io/ remove unwanted services. basic idea: systemctl disable [someservice]
[08:40:21] <tolip> thank you!!!!!!!!!!
[08:40:28] <cverster> what is better than puttY?
[08:40:36] <cverster> i could use a new terminal program :)
[08:41:04] <av500> Hyperterm
[08:41:09] <das> screen
[08:41:18] <av500> a real VT100
[08:41:38] <tolip> lol, I got one of those
[08:41:42] <das> minicom/picocom
[08:42:24] <av500> Procomm
[08:43:05] <das> av500: miss the 90s much ?
[08:43:30] <av500> 80's, no?
[08:43:33] <av500> and yes, badly
[08:43:54] <cverster> what is a good terminal program for windows?
[08:43:58] <das> I dunno, I hadn't spawn yet
[08:44:54] <das> cverster: windows the OS ?
[08:45:01] <cverster> ya
[08:45:05] <das> your host is running windows ?
[08:45:15] <cverster> i am programming my BBB from windows
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[08:46:00] <das> well, 1/ eww and 2/ hyperterm/putty
[08:46:31] * das installed his first Linux because putty sucked too much
[08:47:49] <desaster> i think putty is pretty cool
[08:48:03] <cverster> haha, we just agreed that putty should be avoided ;)
[08:48:35] <desaster> well for ssh, for serial i use realterm
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[08:49:10] <das> cverster: why don't you dual boot linux for development ?
[08:49:36] <av500> you dont need to run linux to have a terminal emulator
[08:49:39] <av500> even XP can do that
[08:50:14] <das> who wants to program directly on target ?
[08:50:15] <cverster> das: do you think it'll be worth it? what are the advantages?
[08:50:33] <cverster> I already have putty
[08:50:45] <das> cverster: learn stuff ... how will you learn embedded linux if you don't know the basics ?
[08:50:57] <cverster> im learning ;)
[08:51:02] <tolip> or install linux in a VM, and wait to dual boot till you more familiar
[08:53:30] <woglinde_> its friday
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[08:54:12] <ynezz> y-e-a-h-!
[08:57:50] <av500> ha!: ...We are kind of ???hamstrung??? by the limitations of the 68pins...
[08:57:54] <av500> who'd have thought
[09:01:05] <KotH> mrpackethead: is there an english word that means both via and trough hole contact? like the french "bastille"
[09:01:13] <cverster> how do you kill X and metacity if their pid keeps changing?
[09:01:22] <av500> why kill?
[09:01:28] <mrpackethead> KotH: i'm not sure.
[09:01:37] <cverster> their eating processor
[09:01:37] <mrpackethead> what do you mean by through hole contact
[09:01:39] <av500> also, rm -r /usr/bin/X
[09:01:57] <Vaizki> cverster: killall X
[09:01:58] <KotH> mrpackethead: a pad for a trough hole part, like DIL or something
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[09:02:30] <av500> KotH: ?
[09:02:38] <av500> still a pad, no?
[09:02:40] <mrpackethead> its a pad
[09:02:45] <av500> like ye olde days
[09:02:56] <av500> when parts had wires left and right
[09:03:01] <KotH> av500: that doesnt cover vias
[09:03:15] <cverster> argh, i dont know why my bbb is lagging!
[09:04:15] <das> KotH: "pastille" ?
[09:04:26] <KotH> das: er.. yes...
[09:04:35] <KotH> das: french is not my strong language ^^'
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[09:04:50] <monday> anyone awake here?
[09:05:10] <av500> no
[09:05:14] <av500> wrong day
[09:05:15] <KotH> .o0(Zzzz...)
[09:05:21] <monday> my eyes can barely stay open.
[09:05:47] <monday> av500: have you flashed a BBB emmc?
[09:05:58] <av500> truly I have
[09:06:19] <monday> av500: did the lights stay solid or flash wildly?
[09:06:22] <KotH> monday: it's morning in seattle, you should be wide awake!
[09:06:35] <ka6sox> morning?
[09:06:45] <av500> monday: they blink while it flashes
[09:06:45] <monday> yeah its way way early in the morning been up since 6 yesterday :(
[09:06:49] <av500> solid when done
[09:06:56] <ka6sox> KotH, you mean *2* in the morning in Seattle
[09:07:00] <av500> KotH: yes, but he woke up 3 days early
[09:07:15] <monday> av500: thanx. dir says they stay lit so I just wanted to make sure its all working good.
[09:07:43] <monday> :)
[09:08:02] <monday> trying to get this done so I can go to bed and get some sleep :)
[09:08:11] <monday> av500: where you at?
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[09:08:18] <KotH> ka6sox: best time to get up and get some work done!
[09:08:19] <av500> my desk
[09:08:27] <KotH> ka6sox: you, of all, should agree with that :)
[09:08:33] <VoiceShen> testing BBW usb rndis gadget
[09:08:38] <VoiceShen> meeting following error
[09:08:48] <VoiceShen> musb-hdrc: peripheral reset irq lost!
[09:08:49] <VoiceShen> data abort
[09:08:49] <VoiceShen> MAYBE you should read doc/README.arm-unaligned-accesses
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[09:08:56] <VoiceShen> use mainline u-boot
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[09:09:21] <jackmitchell> VoiceShen: are you using the latest 3.8 kernel?
[09:09:24] <KotH> av500: at your desk? you should be outside in the park on nice day like this!
[09:09:30] <VoiceShen> U-Boot 2013.07-00197-g3208d07
[09:09:34] * jackmitchell looks outside
[09:09:37] * jackmitchell raining
[09:09:43] * jackmitchell hates England
[09:09:43] <VoiceShen> jackmitchell, just test u-boot
[09:09:49] <monday> up early or awake late
[09:09:53] <monday> :)
[09:09:53] <KotH> jackmitchell: move to .fr
[09:09:53] <VoiceShen> not kernel
[09:10:18] <KotH> jackmitchell: better food, better weather, language that has less irregularities than rules
[09:10:29] <das> also, women
[09:10:32] <jackmitchell> VoiceShen: ah, ok; I know nothing about u-boot and rndis adapters I'm afraid, has it ever worked?
[09:10:39] <ka6sox> jackmitchell, move then!
[09:10:46] <ka6sox> how about Senegal?
[09:10:48] <VoiceShen> I don't know
[09:10:51] <KotH> das: i like the women form geneva/lausanne better :)
[09:10:52] <ka6sox> thats warm an sunny....
[09:11:20] <jackmitchell> KotH: ka6sox: I don't hate England, just rain; I would like to move though, but the better half is mid phd
[09:11:23] <KotH> and you could be a rich, white asshole :)
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[09:11:33] <ka6sox> jackmitchell, bummers
[09:11:39] <das> KotH: exact steps please
[09:11:42] <jackmitchell> so need to wait till that is over before decided where or what we're doing
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[09:11:50] <KotH> jackmitchell: let her do a sabbatical somewhere else :)
[09:11:52] <ka6sox> I missed out on a Director of Engineering position because better half was mid-masters
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[09:12:03] <jackmitchell> plus, I just accepted a new job offer
[09:12:05] * jackmitchell hooray!
[09:12:14] <ka6sox> same field?
[09:12:14] <KotH> das: buy ticket to senegal, board plane, fly over, leave plane, be an asshole
[09:12:28] <KotH> jackmitchell: congrats
[09:12:35] <ka6sox> jackmitchell, excellent
[09:12:44] <jackmitchell> kind of, Embedded Linux Engineer, but in the wireless networking domain
[09:13:01] <ka6sox> okay left the field I'm in then.
[09:13:02] <das> not at Cisco I hope ?
[09:13:16] <jackmitchell> das: haha, no way
[09:13:35] <jackmitchell> just down the road from where I already am, Cambridge Broadband Networks
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[09:13:56] <das> douchebag Cisco, gets record high profits, lays off 4000
[09:14:38] <ka6sox> why am I up...its 2am
[09:14:44] <av500> some comments say they are "processing" aquisitions
[09:14:58] <av500> buy company, integrate some people, fire the rest
[09:15:04] <the_dude> guys, i am having some issues with the TI cpsw: WARNING: at drivers/net/ethernet/ti/cpsw.c:446 __cpdma_chan_free+0xd0/0xd8()
[09:15:11] <jackmitchell> ka6sox: you're in Broadcast too?
[09:15:17] <KotH> das: you shouldnt listen to the voices on redit
[09:15:31] <the_dude> and then the stack dump
[09:16:01] <av500> jackmitchell: he is the voice of America
[09:16:02] <jackmitchell> the_dude: are you running the latest 3.8 kernel?
[09:16:03] <das> KotH: what ? I cannot survive on elitism in this channel only, I need reddit too for that !
[09:16:10] <the_dude> also trying to set interrupt pacing fails with ethtool
[09:16:13] <the_dude> jackmitchell: yes
[09:16:24] <the_dude> 3.8 bone 25
[09:17:26] <jackmitchell> the_dude: I'm not sure then I'm afraid, what are you doing to aggravate the network driver
[09:17:34] <KotH> das: what for? to feel better than others? there are plenty of oppurotunities here for that
[09:17:45] <KotH> das: if you need more, go to #linux or so
[09:17:58] <the_dude> jackmitchell: just using transmission to download a torrent
[09:18:45] <the_dude> i've tested the system alot with stress, it is not dumpicg the stack
[09:19:05] <KotH> the_dude: pastebin full trace/kernel log
[09:19:10] <the_dude> also dding /dev/zero to a nfs share is working
[09:19:18] <the_dude> KotH: just a moment
[09:19:18] <KotH> the_dude: then sacrifice good swiss chocolate to the channel gods
[09:19:36] <the_dude> KotH: i prefer the belge one
[09:19:40] <KotH> b?h!
[09:19:46] <the_dude> lol
[09:20:10] <woglinde_> pastebin
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[09:22:53] <the_dude> http://pastebin.com/9vLm6BRT
[09:23:34] <ka6sox> jackmitchell, yes
[09:24:22] <the_dude> easier in raw http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9vLm6BRT
[09:25:29] <jackmitchell> the_dude: well, this looks to be the problem; BUG: scheduling while atomic
[09:25:57] <jackmitchell> the_dude: if you're handy in C, I would delve in and see if something is being scheduled somewhere, while in an atomic context
[09:26:51] <tolip> cverster: follow the link above from johanhenselmans the service in question is "gdm" it stands for Gnome Display Manager I think. just killing X will dissapoint as gdm will keep restarting it
[09:26:54] <jackmitchell> the_dude: probably somewhere in cpdma_chan_free
[09:27:50] <KotH> tolip: that's the job of gdm
[09:28:13] <KotH> tolip: killing x is the same as logging out, and when you log out, you want to gdm take over and present you a login screen
[09:28:41] <the_dude> jackmitchell: thanks but I am just a user :/
[09:29:11] <jackmitchell> the_dude: heh, you could try filing a bug; there is a bugtracker somewhere.
[09:29:18] * jackmitchell looks around for Panto ^^
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[09:29:54] <tolip> agree, but above suggestions were given to kill X, that will dissapoint, X like a zombie will return. disable gdm and no more X on boot but can resurrect if needed
[09:30:02] <av500> http://technode.com/2013/08/15/microduino-shrinks-the-arduino-cheaper-same-power
[09:30:06] <av500> we need a microBBB
[09:30:10] <av500> a microbee
[09:30:32] <av500> microB
[09:30:34] <av500> uB
[09:30:37] <av500> .
[09:31:16] <jackmitchell> Beijing Maxpace, the supporting community behind Microduino, provides not only tools for hackers but a sense of community built on knowledge, innovation and common good.
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[09:31:22] * jackmitchell pukes in the corner
[09:32:14] <av500> its because they dont have internet in china, they dont know about http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kenburns/tinyduino-the-tiny-arduino-compatible-platform-w-s
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[09:32:21] <av500> or the 15 other tiny arduinos
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[09:36:17] <ka6sox> hairball!
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[09:37:55] <Stoob> <av500> we need a microBBB
[09:38:00] <Stoob> what we need is better driver support
[09:38:04] <Stoob> more than anything
[09:38:07] <Stoob> (imo)
[09:38:11] <av500> like what?
[09:38:33] <Stoob> like the eCAP modules or the PRU or any number of other features of the ARM processor that aren't quite easily accessible as is
[09:38:40] <av500> PRU is there
[09:38:42] <av500> people use it
[09:38:46] <Stoob> not very well it isn't
[09:39:25] <av500> patches welcome
[09:39:28] <Stoob> it's very hacky and unfriendly to use, the only driver support for it is support to load a firmware image to it
[09:39:55] <Stoob> i could say the same about your microbbb... schematics welcome :p
[09:40:48] <ka6sox> PRU has other methods...
[09:40:53] <_av500_> well, I was not serious
[09:41:00] <ka6sox> they are just more...Bleeding Edge...
[09:42:46] <the_dude> jackmitchell: should i post that as a bug on the kernel bug tracker ?
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[09:43:08] <jackmitchell> the_dude: that might help, I'm a quick look for you now; see if anything stands out
[09:43:10] <the_dude> or with TI ?
[09:43:24] <jackmitchell> the_dude: not TI, 3.8 is CircuitCo supported
[09:44:49] <jackmitchell> the_dude: the mainline kernel bugtracker is not the right place either
[09:46:12] <jackmitchell> what does uname -a give you, are you sure you're on the latest, latest?
[09:46:53] <jackmitchell> it looks to me like someone has encountered this bug, and put some fixes in, but maybe it didn't quite fix it
[09:47:48] <the_dude> Linux arm 3.8.13-bone25 #1 SMP Tue Aug 6 22:11:31 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
[09:48:01] <the_dude> it is the rcn kernel
[09:48:15] <the_dude> http://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.8.13-bone25/
[09:48:44] <KotH> _av500_: hey.. the tinyduino looks interesting
[09:50:28] <jackmitchell> the_dude: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5doal98f358sxb/uImage
[09:50:58] <jackmitchell> try that kernel, if it still doesn't work then file a bug here: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/issues
[09:51:47] <the_dude> jackmitchell: i'll try it later, it is located at home, nott feeling like changing the kernel remotely :D
[09:51:52] <the_dude> jackmitchell: thanks
[09:52:31] <mrpackethead> KotH: did you find your word
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[09:54:21] <Vaizki> if I share a uImage from my dropbox, can you guys all install it and then report to me how long it took you to realize you're pwned
[09:54:41] <the_dude> lol
[09:55:08] <KotH> mrpackethead: nope.. just used "plated hole"
[09:55:18] <jackmitchell> I forgot to mention my uImage kangs all your code btw, it will be in anonymous pastebin accounts for all to see
[09:55:49] <the_dude> i've seen rcn started to work on a 3.11 image, stil in RC state
[09:55:57] <the_dude> http://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.11.0-rc5-bone2/
[09:56:37] <mrpackethead> 3.11?
[09:56:45] <mrpackethead> that sounds very out of date
[09:57:02] <mrpackethead> but its not
[09:57:13] <XorA> Linux for Workgroups
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[09:58:11] <Vaizki> I never understood the latest kernel mania..
[09:58:32] <the_dude> i am happy with 3.2 on a bunch of production servers
[09:58:39] <Vaizki> very rarely do you live on the bleeding edge so that you actually need the stuff from every new version :)
[09:58:50] <KotH> the_dude: which tells us taht you are running debian
[09:58:51] <KotH> ;)
[09:58:58] <Vaizki> ok so I run Arch, I shouldn't bash kernel upgraders :)
[09:58:59] <the_dude> KotH: bingo
[09:59:07] <KotH> the_dude: actually, debian/stale
[09:59:22] <the_dude> well it is production so yes
[09:59:28] <Vaizki> 3.10.6-2 running
[10:00:03] <Vaizki> I should probably change to the lts kernel packages on arch x86.. .
[10:00:40] <KotH> the_dude: so, you dont like risk?
[10:00:48] <Vaizki> then again.. Linux firewall 2.4.17 #15 Wed Jul 24 13:56:31 EEST 2013 i686 unknown
[10:01:07] <KotH> o_0
[10:01:22] <the_dude> KotH: and since nobody managed to add bbone to narcissus i am using the debian image on my bbb too
[10:01:27] <Vaizki> it runs stable, no need to upgrade!
[10:01:46] <Vaizki> the_dude: run Arch, it has newer kernels on BBB ;)
[10:02:01] <KotH> Vaizki: i remember upgrading to 2.4.17 because i needed sata... 4 or 5 years ago.. if not more
[10:02:23] <KotH> most likely more
[10:02:26] <Vaizki> more
[10:02:37] <Vaizki> let's see..
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[10:03:11] <Vaizki> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 773667 Jan 21 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.17-9
[10:03:17] <Vaizki> yeah baby!
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[10:04:09] <Vaizki> my BBBs run 3.8.13 it seems
[10:04:13] <Vaizki> I run stock Arch on them
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[10:05:23] * KotH feels old
[10:05:27] * KotH blames Vaizki
[10:06:37] <Vaizki> yea.. me too.. 40 wednesday this week :O
[10:06:51] <mru> damn, you _are_ old
[10:07:04] <Vaizki> I blame my parents
[10:07:14] <jackmitchell> I blame the liberals
[10:07:37] <the_dude> i have nothing older than 2.6
[10:07:46] <mru> jackmitchell: I resemble that remark
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[10:08:20] <the_dude> libe-dem are always to blame, not matter what, they deserve it !
[10:08:35] <mru> the british lib-dems?
[10:08:44] <Vaizki> I'll trade our social dems for your libdems
[10:08:51] <the_dude> all the eu lib-dems
[10:08:59] <Vaizki> I'll even throw in the whole green party
[10:09:16] <the_dude> which are communists in hidden mode :D
[10:09:20] <mru> without the lib-dems we'd have labour in charge
[10:09:30] <the_dude> mru: true
[10:09:54] <suihkulokki> so we now have #politicalfriday ?
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[10:10:17] <mru> tory+libdem is probably as good as it's likely to get with that lineup
[10:10:18] <the_dude> lol yes
[10:10:35] <mru> either one alone would be a disaster
[10:10:36] <the_dude> mru: i would prefer tories alone
[10:10:43] <ka6sox> I say throw out all the bums...
[10:10:48] <ka6sox> everyone of them
[10:10:49] <mru> nothing to hold them back
[10:10:55] <ka6sox> the whole lot
[10:12:38] <das> how about we stop using the euro ? that'd be nice for france/spain/italy
[10:12:54] <das> germany might be a little pissed though
[10:12:56] <mru> now I heard cameron knows how to take stuff off the internet
[10:13:00] <das> we don't like to have germans pissed
[10:13:02] <mru> maybe he can get rid of the spam problem
[10:13:33] * mru is happy to keep using sterling
[10:14:20] <the_dude> mru: well they fucked up with the premier league bs
[10:14:29] <das> mru: for once the british were right
[10:14:44] <mru> the_dude: politicians fuck _everything_ up
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[10:15:49] <ka6sox> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/146
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[10:24:32] <_av500_> the_dude: in germany, the greens are not the communists
[10:24:51] <KotH> _av500_: but they are as stupid as the rest of the greens everywhere ;)
[10:24:56] <_av500_> no
[10:24:56] <mru> in sweden the greens are all things bizarre
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[10:25:07] <_av500_> they are a party for rich people with a green touch
[10:25:24] <KotH> _av500_: ah.. we have the "gr?n liberale" for those
[10:25:47] <mru> they are a party for rich people with SUVs and yachts to feel good about voting for the "right" thing
[10:25:49] <KotH> _av500_: a lot more stupid program, less understanding, more hilarities
[10:26:08] <_av500_> mru: no, they dont have SUVs
[10:26:21] <KotH> only party worse are the pirates
[10:26:28] <KotH> which are a real joke in .ch
[10:26:49] <mru> sweden has largely the same lineup as germany, but all worse
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[10:28:32] <_av500_> these days, do I need swap?
[10:28:44] <_av500_> 12GB machine
[10:29:03] <the_dude> at least a swapfile not a swap partition
[10:29:04] <jackmitchell> _av500_: I run all my machines without swap, I think if you want to sleep/hibernate you may need it
[10:29:09] <_av500_> no
[10:29:15] <_av500_> this machine newer sleeps
[10:29:28] <_av500_> ok, no swap
[10:29:33] <the_dude> swapfile only for emergencies
[10:29:45] <jackmitchell> personally, I wouldn't bother, but if you've got the space; then a few gigs to one side wouldn't hurt
[10:30:29] <KotH> _av500_: isnt 12G a little bit less for todays firefox?
[10:31:01] <_av500_> yes
[10:31:03] <_av500_> but i use chrome
[10:31:40] <mru> 24G no swap here
[10:31:40] <KotH> ah.. ok
[10:32:02] <the_dude> cannot believe how cute is this new olinguito carnivore, my gf wants one already
[10:32:22] <mru> the what?
[10:32:38] <KotH> they discovered a new mamal
[10:32:46] <KotH> it's all the rage on the intarwebz now
[10:33:04] <the_dude> yeah, no kidding
[10:33:05] <XorA> the_dude: girls always seem to until they realise that they actually do eat live animals, see cats for example ;-)
[10:33:20] <mru> cats eat live animals
[10:33:32] <_av500_> itsa mutant racoon
[10:33:34] <the_dude> http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/08/15/Olinguito_610x438.jpg
[10:33:34] <_av500_> big deal
[10:33:35] <mru> girls eat mostly dead ones
[10:34:41] <XorA> there is a reason cats are officially classed as vermin in the UK
[10:35:05] <mru> feral cats can be a problem
[10:35:08] <the_dude> XorA: i have a inhouse cat, he never goes outside
[10:35:14] <jackmitchell> this guy works in a weird place: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23701151
[10:35:16] <mru> poor thing
[10:35:17] <jackmitchell> see video
[10:35:36] <jackmitchell> he looks to have a lion in a drawer
[10:37:03] <_av500_> the lion is a dog
[10:37:07] <the_dude> XorA: and i live in london, which is only geographically in UK
[10:37:24] <jackmitchell> dog in a drawer still constitutes weird in my book
[10:37:36] <SpeedEvil> Depends if it's dead or not.
[10:37:45] <SpeedEvil> I mean - if it's a fridge drawer.
[10:38:20] <jackmitchell> stuffed, maybe? it didn't look that fridge-like
[10:38:58] <XorA> how to fuck with burglars minds, only have stuffed dogs in your cupboards and drawers
[10:39:28] <mru> a live lion would be efficient too
[10:39:41] <the_dude> a hungry one especially
[10:41:05] <the_dude> EPICT EPP-100 is an Android PC with a pico projector
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[10:44:14] <_av500_> android PC
[10:44:15] <_av500_> lol
[10:57:36] <woglinde> hm whats PC stand for
[10:57:53] <ynezz> Pile of Crap
[10:57:54] <mru> politically correct
[10:58:25] <mru> police constable
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[11:11:16] <KotH> ahh. the requirements! "needs capacitor with f_res > 450MHz"... yeah right, i'm going to buy a 10USD/pcs capacitor for a totally uncritical thing
[11:14:10] <_av500_> KotH: for your msp430?
[11:14:39] <ynezz> :D
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[11:16:40] <KotH> _av500_: almost. it's a sam3 this time :)
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[11:24:55] <mru> KotH: http://www.slate.fr/story/76390/pakistan-serie-lutter-contre-islamistes
[11:30:18] <KotH> mru: didnt you mention that a couple of weeks ago already? or was that someone else?
[11:30:27] <mru> I've never seen it before
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[12:45:18] <_av500_> NIS+NFS working :)
[12:45:23] <_av500_> old school
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[12:45:40] <woglinde> nis or nis+?
[12:45:54] <mru> nfs or +nfs?
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[12:46:04] <_av500_> suse calls it nis and nfs
[12:46:09] <_av500_> you do the math
[12:46:44] <woglinde> *g* nis+ == sun
[12:47:18] <mru> nis += sun
[12:47:21] <mru> nissun
[12:47:24] <mru> nissan?
[12:47:31] <mru> you're running suse on your car?
[12:47:42] <woglinde> no in nis+ you can have more than 8 chars for the passwd
[12:48:50] <mru> http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/13/q3/e79/Pic-6.png
[12:50:30] <the_dude> last time i used nis it was like 2002
[12:51:06] <woglinde> the_dude hm same here I think
[12:51:40] <woglinde> hm ah no wait I had to install the windows nis service for getting unix attributes
[12:51:43] <woglinde> for AD
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[12:55:49] <KotH> my fileserver at home is still doing nis
[12:55:51] <KotH> for >10y
[12:55:59] * KotH feels old again
[12:56:03] * KotH blames _av500_
[12:56:20] <mru> KotH: being old is a one-way thing
[12:56:36] <woglinde> koth you should have used kerberos
[12:56:42] <mru> it's not something you can try and go back if you don't like it
[12:56:59] <_av500_> mru: people look at you if you try
[12:57:13] <woglinde> which had give you access to some CERN homefileservers
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[12:57:25] <KotH> mru: oh, i did, i did. being old is not nice, so i went back to being childish again ;)
[12:57:40] <_av500_> woglinde: please, no CERN, they already gave us this web abomination
[12:57:44] <KotH> woglinde: you mean AFS, which uses kerberos for auth
[12:57:55] <mru> afs is kinda neat
[12:57:59] <mru> it's a bitch to set up though
[12:58:00] <KotH> woglinde: and i had to use afs at the uni
[12:58:07] <woglinde> koth hm
[12:58:10] <KotH> woglinde: nice idea, doesn't work for always on stuff
[12:58:11] <woglinde> was it really afs
[12:58:16] <KotH> it was
[12:58:17] * _av500_ uses ffs daily
[12:58:32] * mru used afs at uni too
[12:58:55] <KotH> _av500_: running some old sco boxes, still?
[12:59:02] <mru> installed it at home as well so I could access my files easily
[13:01:14] <_av500_> fun thing, NIS automont only worked after 3 reboots, Linux is reaching windows feature parity :)
[13:02:17] <woglinde> nice try
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[13:05:26] <woglinde> hm qemu 1.6
[13:05:53] * mru shrugs
[13:06:10] <mru> it does have some patches of mine though
[13:06:26] <woglinde> hehe
[13:06:29] <woglinde> for arm?
[13:06:33] <mru> yes
[13:09:52] <m_billybob> morning all
[13:10:57] <woglinde> hi billy
[13:12:55] <m_billybob> hi :)
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[13:59:56] <das> ouh that's nice, a package which Makefiles include extensive use of sed
[14:00:02] <das> gotta love them friday afternoons
[14:00:20] <mru> I'll take that over cmake any day
[14:00:41] <das> there's some cmake too ofc
[14:01:24] <das> went monday to ask why the project was using cmake, the answer: "dunno, some guy implemented that and left. we don't remember why"
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[14:02:47] <_av500_> well, we left because of that
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[14:03:13] <das> doesn't build, what a surprise !
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[14:08:21] <josh_> hi all, i was interested in picking up a beaglebone black, whats the status of the crypto device, is there kernel support for it?
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[14:10:21] <tryme> hi
[14:10:39] <_av500_> josh_: there are patches somewhere I think
[14:11:01] <tryme> do you made microSD card transfer check on class 4, 6 and 10?
[14:11:39] <tryme> of course on BeagleBone Black :D
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[14:12:06] <josh_> _av500_: not mainline support though? any idea where those patches would be, any idea if openSSL would benefit from the crypto support
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[14:34:26] <_av500_> josh_: i'd have to google it :)
[14:34:50] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/218
[14:35:16] <freinhard> someone using the bbb tp backup disks? i just packaged rdiff-backup, but maybe there's something better?
[14:35:40] <mru> that doesn't sound like a sane use of it
[14:35:59] <josh_> _av500_: i was just googling myself, looks like this exists drivers/crypto/omap-aes.c??? is this what would be used on the BBB
[14:37:12] <keesj> I wonder if bittorrent sync works well e.g. http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html?utm_source=bittorrent&utm_medium=web&utm_content=banner&utm_campaign=general
[14:37:23] <keesj> that was for you freinhard
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[14:40:34] <XorA> keesj: bittorrent sync works well, but is very very much not suitable for backup
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[14:41:11] <XorA> sync != backup in the same way raid != backup
[14:41:19] <woglinde> cloud
[14:41:26] <woglinde> you need no backup
[14:41:35] <keesj> cloud cloud cloud
[14:42:05] <woglinde> josh_ now do some tests if it is fast enough for ssh
[14:42:19] <keesj> right
[14:44:28] <freinhard> well the backup works this way:
[14:44:44] <freinhard> first usb disk is always connected to the bbb and accessible over network
[14:44:57] <freinhard> once a week, connect a second drive and put the backup there
[14:45:06] <freinhard> + for rdiff-backup: versioning
[14:45:58] <freinhard> since i don't want to use more than two disks i can't just sync
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[14:46:11] <freinhard> if i would do, the file i deleted accidently on one disk is lost on the second too
[14:46:11] <woglinde> o.O
[14:46:31] <woglinde> it runs standalone?
[14:46:40] <ka6sox-away> mru, KotH I've seen that comic here...our neighbors are from Afganistan and have something that looks like that.
[14:46:41] <woglinde> no inet connection?
[14:46:58] <freinhard> the backup runs locally from USB to USB
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[14:58:44] <mranostay> friday @#$@#$s!
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[15:02:19] <woglinde> mranostay skol
[15:02:40] * mranostay dances in
[15:02:42] <jackmitchell> nobody actually likes skol
[15:02:48] <jackmitchell> even on Fridays
[15:06:18] <XorA> Hagar the Horrible did
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[15:12:29] <jackmitchell> XorA: I stand corrected, he certainly was a fan. Horrible by nature, horrible by taste in beer ;)
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[15:43:33] <marcosscriven> Does anyone know the easiest way to read mem location 0x44E10600 on the BBB?
[15:43:48] <XorA> kmem2?
[15:44:06] <marcosscriven> I tried it in C, but of course Linux doesn't allow it from within a process the memory isn't allocated to
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[15:44:38] <XorA> or is it called devmem
[15:44:45] <woglinde> devmem
[15:44:49] <marcosscriven> not heard of kmem2
[15:44:57] <marcosscriven> ah, deevmen
[15:45:06] <woglinde> deadmen
[15:45:07] * XorA suffers from a lot of brainos
[15:45:39] <marcosscriven> root@beaglebone:~# devmem2 0x44E10600
[15:45:39] <marcosscriven> /dev/mem opened.
[15:45:39] <marcosscriven> Memory mapped at address 0xb6fa1000.
[15:45:41] <marcosscriven> Read at address 0x44E10600 (0xb6fa1600): 0x1B94402E
[15:45:43] <marcosscriven> ta
[15:46:05] <woglinde> easy
[15:47:15] <marcosscriven> when you know how :)
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[15:59:08] <woglinde> gm prpplague
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[16:15:41] <prpplague> woglinde: greetings
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[16:38:03] <mranostay> prpplague: hey bald dude
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[16:48:07] <freinhard> is there something like /etc/network/if-up.d/ for connman?
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[17:01:34] <wmat> freinhard: systemctl restart connman.service?
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[17:02:59] <_av500_>
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[17:03:10] <KotH>
[17:03:15] <_av500_>
[17:03:19] <_av500_> ok, hometime
[17:03:21] <_av500_> bbl
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[17:11:19] <freinhard> wmat: /etc/network/if-up.d/ is for scripts that get executed when some interface gets up
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[17:19:20] <lolsborn> Anyone using 3g dongle on BB?
[17:19:39] <mru> ask a question
[17:20:06] <woglinde> lolsborn why not?
[17:20:09] <lolsborn> Is there a good way to get it to work without using the shady Sakis script?
[17:21:06] <SpeedEvil> I've used a 3G dongle using a lightly adapted version of the chat script I used for dialup
[17:22:05] <SpeedEvil> If you don't like a script - understand what it does - and replicate it in a better way
[17:22:09] <woglinde> modem-manager for the win
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[17:28:35] <mranostay> this is a dongle free channel pleae
[17:28:40] <mranostay> *please
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[17:38:47] <mru> mranostay: no need to get all jealous
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[17:56:20] <mranostay> emeb: ping
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[17:56:33] <mranostay> bastard :)
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[17:58:00] <mranostay> emeb: yo. so your FPGA cape uses GPMC?
[17:58:11] <mranostay> does that actually work? :)
[17:58:20] <ka6sox> mranostay, dunno
[17:58:22] <mru> hell no
[17:58:26] <ka6sox> haven't had time to play with it.
[17:58:46] <mru> but if it sells, who cares?
[17:59:19] <mranostay> yeah that is what i wanted to know before i assumed mine
[17:59:27] <mranostay> *assembled
[17:59:44] <mranostay> mrpackethead: how is yours working exactly?
[18:00:12] <emeb> mranostay: GPMC is available. I haven't done anything with it yet.
[18:00:37] <mranostay> emeb: ah so no input from the FPGA is possible yet
[18:00:53] <mranostay> why you not hook that up to the PRU?
[18:00:56] <emeb> mranostay: not at all - spi0 is available and works for send/receive.
[18:01:26] <emeb> I've been using that so far - works great.
[18:02:44] <mranostay> emeb: the FGPA i/o is buffered?
[18:02:55] <mranostay> or limited to 3v3 level
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[18:03:42] <emeb> mranostay: 3.3V only
[18:04:33] <mranostay> emeb: but are FPGA input/ouputs generally buffered?
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[18:04:41] * mranostay guesses not
[18:06:04] <emeb> mranostay: FPGA I/O is pretty beefy and I don't have any extra buffering / protection on the BCC card. Direct connections.
[18:07:46] <mranostay> emeb: beefy? as in protection isn't really needed?
[18:08:29] <emeb> as in the FPGA has reasonable ESD protection and fairly strong current drive capability.
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[18:27:16] <mranostay> emeb: how much mA per I/O pin?
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[18:37:03] <oneae> hi all
[18:37:36] <oneae> can you also flash an image on the beaglebone black via usb?
[18:37:50] <oneae> so using a usb stick / pen drive
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[19:01:40] <oneae> nobody?:(
[19:02:07] <mru> it's software
[19:02:10] <mru> anything is possible
[19:02:34] <thurgood> don't think anyone's written that particular feature yet
[19:02:57] <mru> that wasn't the question, strictly speaking
[19:07:56] <oneae> guess ill be buying a micro sd than
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[19:26:11] <mranostay> emeb: so fpgas clocked at 400mhz how much would those run?
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[19:29:58] <m_billybob> flashing from USB would be a sinch but really depends on what you mean by USB
[19:30:16] <m_billybob> host, yes, mini USB, not so easy
[19:31:05] <m_billybob> and . . .i guess he left.
[19:32:46] <mru> don't they always
[19:33:34] <m_billybob> seems like, my client dropped connection so i didnt even see most of the discussion
[19:34:03] <m_billybob> but yeap
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[19:35:17] <m_billybob> new personal uptime record for my own bbb 10 days weee
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[19:38:11] <m_billybob> mru do you watch the beagleboard google groups ? if so notice that last post in the last couple of minutes ? lol
[19:38:13] <emeb> mranostay: Xilinx Spartan 3A parts, such as used on the BCC are rated to drive up to +/-24ma depending on the I/O standard you specify in the design.
[19:38:58] <emeb> mranostay: your question regarding FPGA clocked @ 400MHz - what are you interested in? Current draw? Cost?
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[19:40:44] <ka6sox> FPGA!
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[19:42:16] <mranostay> emeb: cost
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[19:43:09] <emeb> mranostay: that speed would likely require a higher-end part, so you'd be looking at a fairly high cost (from a hobby standpoint)
[19:43:17] <mranostay> how high?
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[19:43:32] <emeb> mranostay: over $100 just for the FPGA
[19:43:41] <mranostay> ah that isn't too bad
[19:43:51] <mranostay> not a hobby project per se
[19:44:06] <emeb> of course there are other factors - how much logic you need.
[19:44:18] <mranostay> 32 pins
[19:44:27] <emeb> not I/O - how much internal logic
[19:44:32] <mranostay> ah
[19:44:42] <mranostay> enough to do RLE on 32 inputs
[19:44:58] <emeb> doesn't sound like too much then
[19:45:22] <emeb> you need 400MHz I/O clock rates?
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[20:30:59] <ds2> Hmmmm
[20:31:09] <mrpackethead> ds2: Hrrrrr
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[22:59:35] <ds2> b
[22:59:41] <mru> c
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[23:08:50] <ion> d
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[23:34:49] <emeb> e
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[23:43:14] <ka6sox-away> f
[23:43:52] <ds2> u
[23:43:57] <mru> c
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[23:48:24] <emeb> h
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[23:59:47] <shapr> oh hai