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  • [00:04:39] <Kristina> \o/
  • [00:04:56] <alguien> hello, my beaglebone prints a lot of 'C's on the serial minicom output when i start it up, the thing doesn't show the cloud dashboard anymore
  • [00:07:10] <mranostay> no SD card
  • [00:09:18] <alguien> it's a beaglebone black
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  • [00:11:42] <shabaz> Hello, since the PRUs are proving so useful for interfacing hardware, I'm hitting a limit since I'd like to transfer more than 8k of data at a time. The PRUs can access any part of the memory map. However, the linux side needs to be able to mmap to see it, so I can't arbitrarily write to anywhere unless the memory is allocated on startup. Does anyone know which file may contain this setting if
  • [00:11:43] <shabaz> it is part of the kernel code? Or can I do this via some other file/setting without a kernel compile?
  • [00:24:32] <jkridner|work> alguien: must have wiped out the bootloader on the eMMC
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  • [00:25:39] <m_billybob> Does that to me too, initially, but once the kernel loads I think it goes fone from there
  • [00:26:01] <m_billybob> granted, im using a msp430 @ 9600 BUAD
  • [00:26:18] <m_billybob> err msp430 Launchpad*
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  • [00:52:41] <m_billybob> pinctrl <--- Angstrom only ?
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  • [00:54:10] <bradfa_> m_billybob, it's a kernel thing
  • [00:54:22] <Tenkawa> how often are there firmware updates for bb black?
  • [00:54:36] <bradfa_> Tenkawa, firmware updates or new images?
  • [00:54:41] <Tenkawa> if any so far at all
  • [00:54:57] <Tenkawa> bradfa_: firmware(boot code/low level)
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  • [00:54:58] <m_billybob> bradfa, thanks for the answer. SO hmm sorry for the ignorance, is this a module i need to compile into my kernel ?
  • [00:55:10] <Tenkawa> i build my own os builds
  • [00:55:18] <m_billybob> bradfa, im runing wheezy onmy bbb
  • [00:55:32] * Tenkawa likes slackware on his bbb
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  • [00:55:50] <m_billybob> yeah im liking debian myself
  • [00:55:52] <bradfa_> Tenkawa, boot is handled by u-boot, if you want to run what's in git it's updated a few times a day
  • [00:56:34] <bradfa_> m_billybob, read the first few results -> https://www.google.com/search?q=pinctrl
  • [00:56:41] <Tenkawa> bradfa_: oh that often? intriguing
  • [00:56:52] <bradfa_> Tenkawa, u-boot is under active development by a large community
  • [00:57:01] <Tenkawa> bradfa_: good point
  • [00:57:03] <bradfa_> there's a release about once every 3 months
  • [00:57:23] <bradfa_> Tenkawa, koen's usually working on kernel support every day, see the github
  • [00:57:31] <bradfa_> and use the patch application scripts
  • [00:57:31] <m_billybob> bradfa, you're sh**ing me lol i just *knew* google would turn up nothing. thanks :)
  • [00:57:41] <m_billybob> seems i "knew" wrong. no surprise there though
  • [00:57:45] <Tenkawa> 3.9 in scope yet for the kernel?
  • [00:58:05] <bradfa_> m_billybob, google is everyone's friend :)
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  • [00:58:38] <m_billybob> bradfa, yeah except if you're attempting PXE boot, whcih ive been after for the last week or so
  • [00:58:44] <bradfa_> Tenkawa, 3.9 is done, afaik, 3.10 might get some more am335x support but that's already in rc6
  • [00:58:53] <Tenkawa> 3.8.13 is ok although i'd like to get all my devices to 3.9 (rpi's are there)
  • [00:58:56] <m_billybob> some information out there, but . . .yeah i may be able to figure it out
  • [00:59:02] <Tenkawa> bradfa_: nice
  • [00:59:49] <bradfa_> Tenkawa, I'm talking about mainline (Linus' tree) support, not what koen does with his tree / patches
  • [00:59:58] <Tenkawa> bradfa_: ahh
  • [01:00:34] <m_billybob> nfs root seems to work fine although im loosing dns lease for some reason
  • [01:00:45] <bradfa_> see https://github.com/beagleboard for info on the softwares including scripts for building koen's "evil vendor kernels"
  • [01:01:02] <bradfa_> m_billybob, dns doesn't do leases
  • [01:01:05] <bradfa_> dhcp does
  • [01:01:09] <bradfa_> is that what you mean?
  • [01:01:35] <m_billybob> bradfa, idk im not a networking expert. my gateway goes 0.0.0.0
  • [01:01:40] <m_billybob> not sure what that implies.
  • [01:01:52] <bradfa_> m_billybob, probably that you'll have poor network abilities :)
  • [01:01:57] <m_billybob> but im on the network and able to get root over nfs
  • [01:02:14] <bradfa_> m_billybob, either set a static ip or make the leases longer on the dhcp server
  • [01:02:22] <m_billybob> no, im not a bad person at networking just dont know all the "expert" stuff
  • [01:02:52] <bradfa_> m_billybob, I meant your board, not you personally
  • [01:03:02] <m_billybob> ah ok
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  • [01:03:10] <m_billybob> and dhcp isnt working
  • [01:03:26] <m_billybob> ipaddress=dhcp no boot
  • [01:03:32] <bradfa_> mranostay, come help hold down the fort!
  • [01:03:50] <bradfa_> m_billybob, do other things on your network get dhcp addresses ok?
  • [01:03:51] <m_billybob> one solid usr led lit solid
  • [01:03:59] <m_billybob> yeah
  • [01:04:11] <bradfa_> m_billybob, what's output from the serial port?
  • [01:04:13] <m_billybob> its a "cheap" dsl modem / router
  • [01:04:36] <m_billybob> idk im using an msp430 launcpad for serial debug, so i dont keep it running all the time
  • [01:04:54] <m_billybob> give me a few
  • [01:05:16] <Tenkawa> m_billybob: /win 3
  • [01:05:21] <Tenkawa> oops srry
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  • [01:07:29] <m_billybob> rootpath=
  • [01:07:45] <Russ> greeting=hello
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  • [01:09:07] <m_billybob> yeah so i have a static ip set in /etc/network/interfaces so thats probably the problem
  • [01:09:07] <bradfa_> nsa=friends
  • [01:09:36] <bradfa_> m_billybob, if the kernel is failing to get a dhcp address at boot time, before init is started, what's in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't matter
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  • [01:10:50] <m_billybob> bradfa, yeah im kind of new to this, it picked up an IP at boot, but im thinking since uboot == dhcp and debian are set differently our router doesnt like the quick IP address changes
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  • [01:11:09] <m_billybob> so i guess il hard code the gateway address in uEnv.txt
  • [01:11:14] <m_billybob> give that a shot
  • [01:12:12] <m_billybob> but . . . for now, i need to do some other stuff, then ill have to pop out the uSD and write this on my debian suppport box since I no longer have access to my bbb via serial or ssh
  • [01:12:36] <bradfa_> u-boot will do dhcp, kernel can then do dhcp, then userspace can too, dhcp server shouldn't care it should just keep sending back the same address
  • [01:13:11] <bradfa_> if you can get serial port output, that's invaluable for debugging this kind of situation
  • [01:13:12] <Russ> some dhcp servers take the 'should' in the dhcp spec as, 'who cares'
  • [01:13:27] <m_billybob> im unsure whats going on othe than rootfs ="" now i can only assume its an ip address conflict between the two files
  • [01:13:27] <bradfa_> Russ, those dhcp servers need to die in a fire
  • [01:13:43] <m_billybob> so now im gettign a kernel panic at boot
  • [01:13:54] <bradfa_> isc-dhcp has no issue with rapid requests like would be seen
  • [01:13:57] <m_billybob> the only thing i have changed is static ip to dhcp
  • [01:14:06] <Russ> you can pass static ip options to the kernel from u-boot
  • [01:14:09] <bradfa_> m_billybob, go back to static if it was working for now
  • [01:14:14] <Russ> with the static ip options being those obtained via dhcp
  • [01:15:02] <m_billybob> this router == one of those "cheap" ISP provided modem / router combo's it seem to loose its brains over time
  • [01:15:13] <m_billybob> seems to be a common issue with a lot of these cheaper routers
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  • [01:16:38] <m_billybob> unlisted device unknown 192.168.254.2
  • [01:18:10] <m_billybob> ah well need to take care of some stuff ill iron it out in an hour or so
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  • [01:18:34] <m_billybob> maybe gateway=<gatewayIP> will fix my DNS issues
  • [01:19:10] <m_billybob> well more correctly my gateway issues
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  • [01:35:46] <m_billybob> pffft
  • [01:36:03] <m_billybob> root@arm:~# ping google.com
  • [01:36:03] <m_billybob> connect: Network is unreachable
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  • [01:58:52] <m_billybob> so yeah if i manually add a router to the gateway i get my gateway back, no idea whats going on
  • [01:58:59] <m_billybob> add a route*
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  • [02:06:55] <dinosaurbyl> hello everyone, I have met a problem, I run an Android on the beaglebone, I want to use the uart to commnunicate with the other device, but how can I do it, because the UART is unvailable, please help me!!!
  • [02:09:12] <dinosaurbyl> when i get the authority of the UART by adb shell, chmod 777 /dev/ttyGS*, but the UARTs still didn't work!
  • [02:09:52] <dinosaurbyl> anyone who can give me an advise please
  • [02:10:38] <dinosaurbyl> i have look up all the information from the google, but nothing find
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  • [02:11:53] <dinosaurbyl> the errors from the DDMS is "01-02 00:00:24.580: E/uim-sysfs(679): uim:BT/FM/GPS would be unavailable on system"
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  • [04:10:10] <bbbuser> Hi
  • [04:10:37] <bbbuser> Did anyone use the fastboot to flash angstrom img ?
  • [04:11:16] <bbbuser> Fastboot is very convinient, and it's implemented in uboot
  • [04:11:57] <bbbuser> I think it is useful for our development
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  • [04:43:25] <mranostay> Crofton|work: and Crofton
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  • [04:45:04] <av500> and Crofton too?
  • [04:45:43] <mranostay> av500: my favorite serbian german troll!
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  • [04:46:22] <mranostay> oh noes ka6sox-near is too close
  • [04:46:35] <mastiff> how do trolls compile with neon cmake
  • [04:47:01] <mranostay> mastiff: you are too close to being on topic
  • [04:47:16] <ka6sox-near> he did mention trolls
  • [04:47:58] <jey> qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x90000000 any Idea guys???
  • [04:48:23] <m_billybob> yeah, dont write outside of ROM space.
  • [04:48:29] <mranostay> -ENEEDMOREBEER
  • [04:49:27] <jey> I guess, im using obsolete u-boot source :(
  • [04:49:32] <mastiff> trying to build gnuradio with neon support similar to the "building for E100" instructions http://gnuradio.org/doc/doxygen/build_guide.html
  • [04:49:41] <mastiff> on the bbb
  • [04:50:25] <jey> can you guys give url for latest stable u-boot.. Actually im running in QEMU...
  • [04:52:10] <mastiff> fftw3f compiled ok with neon support on bbb
  • [04:53:02] <av500> jey: mainline uboot
  • [04:54:07] <m_billybob> weee gettign there
  • [04:54:09] <m_billybob> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 112.356 s, 9.3 MB/s
  • [04:55:17] <thurgood> http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/SourceCode would be "mainline"?
  • [04:55:55] <mranostay> later trolls!
  • [04:57:08] <m_billybob> av500, when booting nfs, have you ever had any gateway issues ? Curious, because when using a static ip, i get a gateway=0.0.0.0
  • [04:57:54] <av500> I'd guess gateway does not matter
  • [04:58:00] <av500> as long as the server is in the same subnet
  • [04:58:37] <m_billybob> av500, kind of puts the kibosh on internet access though, unless you /sbin/route add . ..
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  • [05:04:17] <m_billybob> writes 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 110.804 s, 9.5 MB/s
  • [05:04:28] <m_billybob> reads 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 88.7783 s, 11.8 MB/s
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  • [05:06:03] <mranostay> BEER!
  • [05:06:12] <mastiff> isn't 0.0.0.0 the same as public IP?
  • [05:06:22] <mranostay> any interface
  • [05:08:43] <m_billybob> what it equates to, is that my bbb have no idea how to get to the internet
  • [05:08:48] <m_billybob> has*
  • [05:09:49] <mastiff> just put a dns server on it
  • [05:10:12] <m_billybob> sure because two dns server on the same subnet is a great idea :P
  • [05:11:26] <mastiff> then map it to the cambridge bt
  • [05:11:38] <mastiff> get online that way
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  • [05:16:15] <mastiff> lame jokes aside this gets my bbb online: route add default gw 192.168.7.1
  • [05:16:46] <mastiff> might work for you if you're sharing through eth over usb
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  • [05:40:11] * KotH JIHADs
  • [05:41:02] <emeb_mac> that time of day already?
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  • [06:32:38] <m_billybob> mastiff, no, im not
  • [06:33:28] <m_billybob> _av500_, so just curious here. rootfs shouldwork over usb too yeah ? ethusb0 etc ?
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  • [06:40:09] <koen> "In the end, Leighton's messages start to degenerate into what might seem like an elaborate troll evidencing a serious misunderstanding of how Linux kernel development happens"
  • [06:40:15] <koen> gotta love LWN coverage
  • [06:41:25] <panto> moin
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  • [06:45:52] <emeb_mac> elaborate troll!
  • [06:45:55] <jey> v2013.04 is stable right??
  • [06:45:56] <emeb_mac> fit right in...
  • [06:46:12] <jey> u-boot v2013.04
  • [06:48:12] <jey> ??
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  • [06:48:54] <m_billybob> morn panto
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  • [06:53:02] <ChanneW> Does anybody know angstrom how to support Chinese?
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  • [06:55:21] <BeagleCam> u wanna input or display chinese?
  • [06:56:41] <BeagleCam> I have question on the v4l2 drivers
  • [06:57:05] <BeagleCam> what's relation between omap34xxcam.c and soc_camera.c?
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  • [07:01:33] <ChanneW> Yes???I wanna display chinese . In angstrom-manual.pdf use packages with names " locale-base-LL-VV " ,but,it cannt find locale-base-cn-**
  • [07:02:12] <av500> lyakh: ^^^^
  • [07:02:54] <lyakh> av500: I first thought you wanted my opinion about displaying chinese :-)
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  • [07:03:26] <av500> lyakh: :)
  • [07:03:30] <mranostay> learn american goddamnit!
  • [07:03:33] <lyakh> BeagleCam: none at all. omap34xxcam isn't using soc-camera
  • [07:03:38] <av500> mranostay: you first
  • [07:04:24] <mranostay> av500: my eagle tattoo says all :P
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  • [07:04:52] <av500> lyakh: so, how does one display chinese?
  • [07:05:25] <mranostay> av500: draw weird lines
  • [07:06:40] <lyakh> av500: I cannot even figure out with a 100% certainty how to display cyrillic, I'm happy I don't have to display chinese all that often :)
  • [07:07:42] <mranostay> unicode is for losers :P
  • [07:08:05] <bluesmoke> Can the beagleboard black be used as a keyboard emulator? Specifically, can it be used to be placed between a keyboard and a computer and pass keystrokes to the computer while also excecuting events when certain keystrokes are pressed?
  • [07:09:25] <av500> yes
  • [07:09:41] <av500> the hardware allows this
  • [07:09:51] <bluesmoke> and this requires a USB hub?
  • [07:09:54] <av500> no
  • [07:10:01] <av500> you have one host and one device port
  • [07:10:08] <av500> no hub needed
  • [07:10:23] <av500> what you need is a HID gadget driver
  • [07:10:29] <av500> that emulates the keyboard
  • [07:10:37] <bluesmoke> That sounds familliar.
  • [07:10:40] <av500> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt
  • [07:10:45] <av500> and it even exists
  • [07:10:51] <bluesmoke> :)
  • [07:10:51] <av500> so, you
  • [07:10:54] <av500> so, you're done
  • [07:10:56] <av500> next!
  • [07:11:21] <bluesmoke> thanks! one last question: to do this for a mouse and keyboard together, you need a hub on the device port?
  • [07:12:01] <av500> on the host port
  • [07:12:04] <av500> yes
  • [07:12:14] <bluesmoke> got it. Thank you very much.
  • [07:12:16] <av500> as for any case of using 2 usb devices
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  • [07:13:28] * mranostay av500 shakes to sleep
  • [07:13:49] <KotH> .o0(always these violent youngsters)
  • [07:14:10] * mranostay pull KotH into the mosh pit
  • [07:14:24] <m_billybob> bright and sunny JIHAD to you KotH
  • [07:14:45] <BeagleCam> I got totally confused with the camera dirver files
  • [07:15:07] <BeagleCam> if soc_camera does not call omap34xxcam
  • [07:15:15] <BeagleCam> how does it use isp?
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  • [07:15:45] <av500> ?
  • [07:16:43] <mranostay> JIHAD mosh pit!
  • [07:17:11] <av500> mo'pit
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  • [07:27:27] <mranostay> KotH: i'm not violent it was a shake hug
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  • [07:29:18] <carslan> hey there
  • [07:29:45] <mranostay> carslan cause mranostay to sleep
  • [07:29:48] * mranostay zzzz
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  • [07:30:15] <carslan> anyone worked on mt9p031 on beagleboard-xm rev. C ?
  • [07:35:10] <BeagleCam> am reading this code
  • [07:35:16] <BeagleCam> any progress?
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  • [07:39:58] <carslan> BeagleCam: are you talking to me?
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  • [07:46:02] <BeagleCam> yep
  • [07:47:07] <carslan> BeagleCam: I managed to install the driver and I can see the video0 in dev
  • [07:47:28] <carslan> but it only grabs the first frame as a whole green frame and the other frames are all empty
  • [07:47:35] <carslan> any idea what went wrong?
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  • [07:49:48] <mosu_> Are there some licence restrictions on commercial products built using BeagleBoard?
  • [07:50:41] <mranostay> mosu_: no nuclear reactors for one :P
  • [07:51:47] <BeagleCam> carslan, did u try to reset the camera?
  • [07:52:33] <carslan> BeagleCam:what do you mean by that?
  • [07:54:01] <BeagleCam> sorry, i got messy
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  • [07:55:56] <BeagleCam> what cam board?
  • [07:56:33] <dm8tbr> mranostay: yup, PDP-11 is the tool of choice for that
  • [07:57:10] <carslan> LI-5M03
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  • [07:59:31] <BeagleCam> probably u need a patch
  • [08:01:16] <carslan> Can you point me to that patch please?
  • [08:01:34] <BeagleCam> not sure
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  • [08:01:46] <carslan> Because I already tried some patches and I ended up with destroying the whole OS
  • [08:01:54] <BeagleCam> i remember there was a patch for this board
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  • [08:02:09] <BeagleCam> not sure if it has been merged
  • [08:02:42] <BeagleCam> what kernel u using
  • [08:03:38] <carslan> linux2.6.32
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  • [08:05:27] <BeagleCam> i was just suggested to use the latest kernel in another channel
  • [08:05:35] <BeagleCam> #v4l
  • [08:06:48] <carslan> I will give it a try, thank you
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  • [08:07:34] <av500> carslan: green means you are getting all 0x00
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  • [08:07:47] <Guest78338> dear sir
  • [08:07:56] <av500> no sir please
  • [08:08:18] <m_billybob> av500 what is a good resource for setting up tftp for booting the BB ?
  • [08:08:30] <Guest78338> how much cost in black board
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  • [08:09:05] <Guest78338> #beagle
  • [08:09:23] <m_billybob> av500, e.g. im not too familiar with tftp and am a bit confused
  • [08:09:43] <av500> Guest78338: its all on the website
  • [08:09:45] <av500> $45
  • [08:09:51] <av500> vaires with local retailers
  • [08:09:54] <av500> varies
  • [08:13:11] <koen> XorA: http://bartneck.de/publications/2013/agentsWithFaces/bartneckLEGOAgent.pdf
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  • [08:36:36] <av500> finally
  • [08:36:46] <av500> we can put all the angstrom vs ubuntu ranting aside
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  • [08:36:51] <av500> there is android for the BBB
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  • [08:38:14] <XorA> koen: hehe
  • [08:39:37] <m_billybob> that still doesnt cover debian ;)
  • [08:39:59] <BeagleCam> how can i make bb startup in 5 sec
  • [08:41:03] <philenotfound> BeagleCam: you want to slow it down?
  • [08:41:26] <BeagleCam> i wanna it as fast as possible
  • [08:42:42] <philenotfound> BeagleCam: i'm afraid you have to ditch angstrom and look to something lightweight like buildroot
  • [08:42:58] <XorA> *blink*
  • [08:43:55] <philenotfound> don't blink, the angels have the blue box
  • [08:43:56] <ogra_> use a ramdisk with just busybox in it instead of a rootfs :)
  • [08:44:03] <koen> philenotfound: that's nonsense
  • [08:44:10] <av500> +1
  • [08:44:20] <BeagleCam> what's ur opinion?
  • [08:44:31] * XorA shoots philenotfound for blasphemous references
  • [08:44:43] <KotH> koen: in the windows world, it makes absolutely sense
  • [08:45:42] <philenotfound> koen: huh?
  • [08:46:27] <KotH> philenotfound: angstr?m is a linux like every other too. if you knwo what you are doing, you can get it fast the same way as buildroot, t3 or what ever else you call "lightweight"
  • [08:46:36] <koen> what koth said
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  • [08:47:10] <KotH> philenotfound: it's just that angstr?m comes with more stuff enabled by default than buildroot, to give you a better user experience
  • [08:47:16] <BeagleCam> anybody tried to startup quickly?
  • [08:47:41] <KotH> BeagleCam: afaik record is <1s into an opengl app
  • [08:47:56] <BeagleCam> u mean i just need to rebuild the kernel with less stuff e.g. drivers?
  • [08:48:09] <BeagleCam> wow
  • [08:48:23] <KotH> BeagleCam: figure out what is using time at startup, it is not only the kernel
  • [08:48:32] <BeagleCam> o
  • [08:48:45] <philenotfound> KotH: of course, i just found it easier to fatten up a buildroot config than to slim down an angstrom one ;-)
  • [08:48:50] <KotH> know thy system and speed will be given
  • [08:48:56] <BeagleCam> seems lots of work to do
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  • [08:49:12] <KotH> getting an understanding of what you are doing is always a lot of work
  • [08:49:19] <ogra_> does angstr??m support bootchart ? if so, install it, check the charts
  • [08:50:28] <av500> doesnt systemd do that anyway?
  • [08:50:40] <av500> I remember koens "we can boot in 1s" talks
  • [08:50:55] <ogra_> dunno, does systemd charting ?
  • [08:51:18] <KotH> tea time!
  • [08:51:32] <av500> ogra_: chartd
  • [08:51:38] * ogra_ wouldnt be surprides if lemmart swallowed that too
  • [08:51:43] <ogra_> heh
  • [08:52:02] <ogra_> oh, my ... my typing sucks today
  • [08:54:28] <XorA> when does systemd gain sentience?
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  • [09:04:42] <mru> XorA: omg, systemd is skynet!
  • [09:07:25] * XorA is deleting systemd from all his boards just in case!
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  • [09:08:56] <koen> ogra_: auke's bootchart has been integrated into systemd, yes
  • [09:09:19] <ogra_> ah, intresting
  • [09:09:50] <koen> you can configure it to store one bootchart per boot or overwrite it each time
  • [09:10:52] <koen> sample: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/minnow/bootchart-20130508-1105.svg
  • [09:10:55] <av500> can you auto-tweet it?
  • [09:11:30] <XorA> av500: yeah makes it easier for the NSA to optimise their devices then :-D
  • [09:11:47] <kfoltman> av500: why do you want to increase SNR of twitter?
  • [09:12:35] <av500> hmm
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  • [09:13:33] * av500 trows 5050s at mrpackethead
  • [09:13:35] <av500> throws
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  • [09:14:03] <ogra_> hmm, 7s ... thats about as slow as my x86 laptop on ubuntu
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  • [09:21:28] <BeagleCam> orga_:how did you make it ?
  • [09:25:54] <mrpackethead> av500: /me catchs them
  • [09:26:35] <av500> :)
  • [09:40:54] * KotH throws stones at mrpackethead
  • [09:41:35] <av500> the swiss are so rude
  • [09:41:50] <sunfish> Is there somebody from BBB support team?
  • [09:42:11] <av500> is there a BBB support team?
  • [09:42:26] <av500> sunfish: just ask
  • [09:42:30] <av500> dont ask to ask
  • [09:42:56] <sunfish> It seems there is bug with I2C1/2 pin enumeration
  • [09:43:26] <sunfish> av500, I'm not asking to ask, just looking for appropriate person to report
  • [09:43:41] <KotH> av500: just wanted to see whether our resident kiwi catches everything, or just 5050s :)
  • [09:44:15] <jackmitchell> sunfish: if I'm guessing right; then it's not a bug per se
  • [09:44:20] <KotH> sunfish: speak up, and you will reach the right people
  • [09:44:31] <jackmitchell> sunfish: the i2c enumerations are the _count_ of the i2c busses enabled
  • [09:44:47] <KotH> sunfish: and if you shout loud enough, they will even hear you ;)
  • [09:45:09] <sunfish> '/dev/i2c-1 is linked with I2C2, /dev/i2c-2 is linked with I2C1
  • [09:45:10] <jackmitchell> sunfish: they are not relative to the beaglebone enumerations
  • [09:45:34] * jackmitchell should take up fortune telling
  • [09:45:55] <sunfish> guys, it's kind of strange, isn't it?
  • [09:46:12] <av500> mysterious
  • [09:46:14] <jackmitchell> sunfish: not when you know the logic behind it; confusing yes; strange... not so much
  • [09:46:29] <mru> the universe is strange indeed
  • [09:46:35] <av500> the bone moves in mysterious ways
  • [09:47:37] <sunfish> jackmitchell: is there some articles on this 'mysterious' things? ^-)
  • [09:48:05] <jackmitchell> sunfish: visit the next circus and find the booth with a beagle sat outside; within you find me and my answers
  • [09:48:17] <BeagleCam> does the latest kernel support dsplink?
  • [09:49:18] <jackmitchell> sunfish: but no, these things probably should be in an FAQ somewhere; but the software changes so fast it is usually a losing battle to keep it in sync
  • [09:49:50] <sunfish> jackmitchell: is there any links? I'm not sure what does "next circus" stand for.
  • [09:50:19] <jackmitchell> sunfish: there are no links, you just have to work some things out for yourself I'm afraid
  • [09:51:14] <mrpackethead> sunfish: I am teh general of BBB suport team. how many we help you
  • [09:51:41] <mrpackethead> sunfish: I can refer you to any number of wonderful trolls
  • [09:52:20] <KotH> mean kiwi is mean
  • [09:52:30] <KotH> but i like that :)
  • [09:52:31] <sunfish> mrpacketheat: basically there is confusing thing with i2c buses enumeration: /dev/i2c-1 is linked with I2C2, /dev/i2c-2 is linked with I2C1
  • [09:52:42] <av500> yes
  • [09:52:44] <av500> we knioe
  • [09:52:46] <av500> know
  • [09:54:16] <sunfish> mrpacketheat: gyus from here say it's ok hence albeit it's OK. Official FAQ re such things could save much time
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  • [09:55:46] <jackmitchell> it definitely would save my time keeping it up to date
  • [09:55:52] <jackmitchell> s/would/wouldn't
  • [09:55:55] <jackmitchell> damn
  • [09:57:27] <sunfish> may be I'm stupid enough but I found this weird behaviour just using oscilloscope, other guys from the world could not have oscilloscope in touch :-)
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  • [10:00:43] <KotH> sunfish: an oscilloscope is an required debugging instrument when doing embedded systems
  • [10:02:32] * panto actually goes by without
  • [10:02:39] <panto> although I did break down and bought one
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  • [10:03:39] <av500> KotH: or just a LED and an fast eye
  • [10:04:14] <panto> av500, +1
  • [10:06:50] <mrpackethead> if it was easy, every troll would be doing it
  • [10:06:51] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [10:07:00] <mrpackethead> av500: my eyes integrate too much
  • [10:07:18] <mrpackethead> av500: so i get shades of grey
  • [10:07:29] <panto> it all depends on the rate
  • [10:07:39] <panto> everything integrates after all :)
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  • [10:08:06] <av500> mrpackethead: 50 shades is 5-6 bits :)
  • [10:08:43] <av500> and you can do the deconvolution in your brain
  • [10:08:59] <kfoltman> BeagleBone Black: Engineer's Quest IV
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  • [10:22:48] <das> Hmmm, got a company mail on my webmail, they're very proud of a brand new idea to sell. I think they reinvented the cloud....
  • [10:24:17] <mru> patent it
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  • [10:27:14] <`jpi> hi where can i find PRU instruction set encoding ?
  • [10:27:32] <`jpi> is it documented somewhere ?
  • [10:28:53] <`jpi> !pru
  • [10:29:22] <sunfish> Guys, is there any way to perform "echo BB-I2C1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots" during boot time?
  • [10:30:43] <panto> put capemgr.enable_partno=BB-I2C1 in the kernel cmd line
  • [10:30:51] <panto> uEnv.txt, optargs
  • [10:33:33] <sunfish> thanks a lot
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  • [10:39:10] <Rupesh> hi
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  • [10:40:40] <Rupesh> we need support for install android jelly bean on embedded board
  • [10:40:56] <Rupesh> for IP set top box
  • [10:42:10] <av500> on what board?
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  • [10:42:29] <Rupesh> please send me proposal on aepower.contact@gmail.com
  • [10:42:41] <av500> lol
  • [10:42:51] <Crofton|work> mastiff, gnuradio?
  • [10:42:58] <sunfish> panto: should it be loki this: optargs=quiet drm.debug=7 capemgr.enable_partno=BB-I2C1
  • [10:43:00] <av500> please send me a $1000 down payment
  • [10:43:03] <Russ> where's the camera?
  • [10:43:13] * Russ searches around for the hidden camera
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  • [10:43:39] <Rupesh> you have to give us some documentation for finalize
  • [10:44:22] <av500> did you fill out form b7?
  • [10:44:36] <av500> without a B7, we cannot proceed
  • [10:44:38] <Rupesh> no
  • [10:45:10] <Rupesh> i am new on this site
  • [10:45:16] <av500> what site?
  • [10:45:28] <Russ> I thought form B7 was for later, when you are trying to pick through the smoldering rubble
  • [10:45:38] <Russ> is it one of the upfront forms then?
  • [10:45:56] <av500> the *new* B7
  • [10:46:11] <`jpi> ok found here http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Programmable_Realtime_Unit#Instruction_Set
  • [10:47:30] <Rupesh> what is B7
  • [10:47:48] <`jpi> Rupesh: to send you document please pay first
  • [10:47:56] <`jpi> $500 for documentation
  • [10:47:58] <av500> Rupesh: I think you misunderstand
  • [10:48:16] <`jpi> $10 -> for every line of code written
  • [10:48:38] <av500> Rupesh: have a look at: http://beagleboard.org
  • [10:48:41] <Rupesh> ok
  • [10:49:01] <av500> how did you get here?
  • [10:49:08] * Russ jbaqref ng jung cynprf ba gur vagrejrof guvf vf n abezny jnl gb pbagenpg fbsgjner
  • [10:49:13] <Rupesh> then saw me some video of ported android on hardware
  • [10:49:20] <av500> sure
  • [10:49:23] <av500> people have done that
  • [10:49:42] <av500> see the "rowboat" project
  • [10:49:55] <av500> but this is a community of volunteers
  • [10:50:00] <av500> you cannot demand support
  • [10:50:57] <KotH> Russ: vaqvn
  • [10:51:28] <Rupesh> i know about community but we also need some support to join this community for further development
  • [10:51:31] <Russ> KotH, V'yy arrq rknpg fgrcf
  • [10:52:34] <av500> Rupesh: you dont need to "join"
  • [10:52:38] <KotH> Russ: Gnxr n cynar gb rhebcr. jura trggvat bss, fgneg jnyxvat rnfg jneqf, hagvy lbh fgneg fzryyvat fcvpl sbbq, gura ghea fbhgu
  • [10:52:59] <KotH> Rupesh: if you want professional help, our company can provide you that. but it will cost you money
  • [10:53:09] <Rupesh> actually still i had not checked beaglboard perfactly so i may be wrong
  • [10:53:23] <av500> also, the beagle bone is the wrong board for an IP set top box
  • [10:53:39] <`jpi> KotH: if you need professional mental help, i can provide you some tips (costs money)
  • [10:53:57] <KotH> `jpi: thank, but i'm studying psychology myself
  • [10:54:00] <Spirilis> KotH: lol
  • [10:54:10] <Rupesh> please may i ask why wrong board ?
  • [10:54:14] <`jpi> KotH: no need to waste your time.
  • [10:54:42] <KotH> `jpi: waste of time? sitting in a large lecture hall with tons of nice girls?
  • [10:54:53] <Spirilis> y'all made me apt-get install bsdgames just to decipher that
  • [10:55:07] <Spirilis> now I am going to spend the rest of my drunken day playing atc
  • [10:55:15] <KotH> `jpi: though, exams on hot summer days can be "distracting"
  • [10:55:38] <Russ> KotH, first day of set theory, walked into one of those classrooms by mistake, knew pretty quickly I must be in the wrong place
  • [10:55:39] <KotH> Spirilis: isnt that required by posix anywas
  • [10:55:48] <KotH> Russ: hehe
  • [10:55:57] <Russ> considered staying anyway
  • [10:55:58] <av500> Rupesh: what do you want the board to do?
  • [10:56:02] <av500> decode HD video?
  • [10:56:06] <KotH> Russ: :)
  • [10:56:28] <`jpi> ok i am out
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  • [10:57:11] <KotH> Russ: but i must say, girls who study hard sciences are easier to talk to than those who study social sciences. somehow they seem to look down on men
  • [10:57:11] <Rupesh> board will play all android application on HDMI port and 5.1 surround sound system with wireless joystick
  • [10:57:23] <Spirilis> KotH: bsdgames might be but spending all day long playing atc usually isn't demanded in any official specification documents
  • [10:57:52] <Spirilis> ooh ooh, maybe I can play it on my bbb? does angstrom ship with bsdgames?
  • [10:57:53] <Russ> KotH, pretty sure they look down on all the potential test subjects
  • [10:58:20] <Russ> "all android application" is pretty broad
  • [10:58:33] <av500> Rupesh: so no video decoding?
  • [10:58:51] <Russ> av500, there are many android applications that require video decoding hardware...
  • [10:59:17] <av500> I know that
  • [10:59:31] <Rupesh> we dont need
  • [10:59:37] <av500> you dont need what?
  • [10:59:49] <av500> so you just want to play games?
  • [10:59:57] <av500> the GPU in the bone is not really fast
  • [11:00:26] <av500> Rupesh: my advice, get a $50 HDMI Android stick
  • [11:00:30] <Rupesh> yes game on large projector screen
  • [11:00:38] <av500> same price
  • [11:00:42] <av500> android already ported
  • [11:00:44] <KotH> Russ: nope, quite the contrary
  • [11:00:44] <av500> full HD
  • [11:00:51] <av500> good GPU
  • [11:00:56] <KotH> Russ: they are glad for anyone who agrees to be tested :)
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  • [11:01:36] <KotH> Russ: each and every study is lacking test subjects, hence they try to give you as many incentives as possible to agree to take part in a study
  • [11:01:47] <Russ> I don't mean test subjects themselves, I mean people who aren't in the social sciences, people who don't understand how people and society really work, the "truth"
  • [11:01:48] <av500> free chocolate?
  • [11:01:59] <Russ> did someone say free chocolate?
  • [11:02:12] <KotH> i have some with me
  • [11:02:17] <KotH> and we should eat it before it melts
  • [11:02:19] <Russ> where do I send my consent form?
  • [11:02:24] <KotH> <- here
  • [11:02:40] <KotH> you will pay with your immortal soul and your firstborn
  • [11:02:58] <KotH> no downpayments or credit cards accepted
  • [11:02:59] <Russ> ? I thought I was signing up to be part of a test
  • [11:03:08] <av500> it is a test
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  • [11:11:24] <KotH> doh! he is gone!
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  • [11:12:16] <av500> yes
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  • [11:12:46] <KotH> av500: you scared a canuck!
  • [11:13:22] <KotH> av500: and just with a "yes"!
  • [11:13:40] <av500> they dont make em like they used to
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  • [11:22:15] <gwryan> Hello. I'm using the BeagleBone_Rev_A6A_Production_11_22_2012 kernel on my bone to do some high-bandwidth USB communications and I've noticed that the kernel has CONFIG_MUSB_PIO_ONLY=y set. Does anyone know why DMA is turned off, and if I patch and compile my own kernel with it turned on, will something bad happen?
  • [11:22:52] <KotH> because it wasnt implemented back then
  • [11:23:08] <KotH> there was some work done on the musb, dunno if dma is working already
  • [11:23:30] <panto> gwryan, usb dma doesn't work yet
  • [11:23:45] <gwryan> well that's a good reason :)
  • [11:23:47] <panto> there are patches that you can try to apply, but things are never simple with musb
  • [11:25:16] <gwryan> is it unworking all the way to the the 3.8 kernel?
  • [11:25:18] <KotH> ...things are never simple in reality
  • [11:25:26] <gwryan> reality bites!
  • [11:26:18] <KotH> nope, mranostay bites
  • [11:26:38] <KotH> or wants to be bitten
  • [11:26:57] <gwryan> are these the patches I can try? http://elinux.org/MUSB
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  • [11:32:56] <panto> no
  • [11:32:59] <panto> those are very old
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  • [11:34:32] <cityLights> hi all
  • [11:34:46] <cityLights> how to have the BBB use a wifi usb on boot?
  • [11:34:59] <panto> plug it in?
  • [11:35:00] <cityLights> I see wlan0 as the modules where loaded
  • [11:35:39] <panto> perhaps you should configure it then
  • [11:35:56] <cityLights> I edit the wpa-supplicant yet, using ifup wlan0 doesn't set the essid
  • [11:37:15] <cityLights> need I edit the /etc/network/interfaces file?
  • [11:37:44] <cityLights> I only added auto wlan0 before:
  • [11:37:44] <panto> I don't remember exactly how that goes
  • [11:37:57] <panto> is that angstrom btw?
  • [11:38:00] <panto> or some other distro
  • [11:38:12] <gwryan> anyone have a link to patches for the musb I can try? or is it probably a fool's errand?
  • [11:38:23] <cityLights> iface wlan0 inet dhcp \n wireless_mode managed \n wireless_essid any \n wpa-driver wext \n wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
  • [11:38:48] <cityLights> panto: yep , its angstrom
  • [11:39:15] <panto> gwryan, check out patchwork for linux-omap
  • [11:39:32] <panto> cityLights, can't remember now
  • [11:39:37] <panto> check up with koen
  • [11:39:46] <panto> plus it's lunch time
  • [11:39:51] <cityLights> yes, where is koen?
  • [11:39:56] <cityLights> ~seen koen
  • [11:40:00] <av500> lunch
  • [11:40:05] <av500> eating a fish sandwich
  • [11:40:12] <cityLights> hmm , ok , then I also going to eat
  • [11:40:18] <gwryan> thanks!
  • [11:40:24] <cityLights> fish , hmm ok
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  • [12:11:27] <panto> all these crap kickstarter projects about arduino piss me off
  • [12:12:04] <av500> crapstarter
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  • [12:16:29] <dm8tbr> people have realized, that they can substitute own initial investment by a half-baked marketing pitch on crapstarter
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  • [12:21:42] <jackmitchell> panto: +1
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  • [12:22:41] <jackmitchell> audrino_wifi_board_no18754 (now with unstandardised open source protocols!)
  • [12:24:24] <panto> frankly I don't get the fascination with arduino
  • [12:24:40] <das> prob. because you can read a datasheet
  • [12:26:06] <av500> wat is datashet?
  • [12:26:46] <jackmitchell> can datashet be read on Android 2?
  • [12:27:10] <av500> ....Put the left over PCB into a reflow oven, and tip out rapidly to collect a whole bunch of SMD components to re-use....
  • [12:27:19] <av500> right
  • [12:27:38] <av500> smd resistors, assorted values
  • [12:27:54] <av500> 2 pound bag for only $5
  • [12:28:40] <panto> interesting
  • [12:29:20] <panto> boy, PRU code space is really limited for C stuff
  • [12:29:39] <panto> printf with all the options blows over the limit
  • [12:30:38] <Russ> av500, you'd be surprised what it takes to get smd components to come off
  • [12:31:28] <bradfa> Russ, hot air works nice, or hot tweezers
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  • [12:32:34] <bradfa> mourning, channel
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  • [12:32:51] <Russ> bradfa, right, but as far as a hands off approach, without touching the board
  • [12:33:05] <Russ> or the component
  • [12:33:08] * bradfa likes touching boards and components
  • [12:33:35] <panto> we really could do without knowing that bit of info... :)
  • [12:34:01] <bradfa> :)
  • [12:34:20] <panto> nttiawwt
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  • [12:34:56] <bradfa> just don't tell mranostay
  • [12:37:05] <georgem> I saw this and I immediately thought of #beagle http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwvpoVgM91qft8qyo1_500.png
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  • [12:37:51] <jkridner|work> georgem: +1
  • [12:37:53] <jkridner|work> :-D
  • [12:38:03] <bradfa> georgem, and mranostay in particular?
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  • [12:39:23] <georgem> yes. lol
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  • [12:40:14] <av500> mranostay makes us all look bad
  • [12:41:09] <jackmitchell> sets a precedent for the channel
  • [12:41:38] <jackmitchell> it'd be as idealistic and helpful as #RasPi otherwise
  • [12:45:58] <Russ> av500, why, what happened? Did mranostay stop drinking or something?
  • [12:47:16] <av500> unlikely()
  • [12:47:25] <cityLights> ~seen koen
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  • [12:47:50] <av500> it's a big fish
  • [12:48:02] <cityLights> LOL
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  • [13:08:19] <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: Are you the stk1160 one?
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  • [13:09:45] <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: yeap
  • [13:09:55] <mrpackethead> which trolls are still trolling
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  • [13:10:43] <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: if you have stk1160 issues, feel free to use the #v4l
  • [13:12:21] <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: ok, just wanted to drop a thanks for your driver
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  • [13:34:48] <bradfa> mrpackethead, seems they're all sleeping under bridges right now
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  • [13:48:24] <carslan> How do I get suitable kernel headers for buildroot. It throws media.h error when I try to configure media-ctl
  • [13:48:49] <carslan> I forgot the question mark, please don't sue me
  • [13:49:43] <av500> too late
  • [13:49:48] <av500> my lawyer is involved
  • [13:50:00] <carslan> darn it, this is the 3rd time today
  • [13:50:03] <av500> carslan: buildroot installs kernel headers
  • [13:50:38] <panto> av500, I have a hunch your lawyer is a bear
  • [13:51:00] <carslan> Why does it say that the kernel headerh is not usable then?
  • [13:54:57] <panto> shouldn't you ask that in the buildroot channel?
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  • [13:56:15] <av500> +1
  • [13:57:01] <carslan> good point, thank you
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  • [13:59:49] <av500> lawsuit averted
  • [14:00:26] <mrpackethead> panto: my bear is a lawyer.
  • [14:01:14] <panto> give a new meaning to the term 'mauled by the law'
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  • [14:13:17] * av500 is debugging Magnastat
  • [14:13:34] <emeb> yay?
  • [14:14:21] <av500> $30 for a spare switch
  • [14:14:28] <av500> or just clean the contacts
  • [14:18:10] <av500> http://www.henri.de/werkstattbedarf/loettechnik/loetkolben-ersatzteile/ersatzteile-weller/14371/ersatzteil-weller-magnetschalter-tcp-we51020199.html
  • [14:18:32] <cityLights> av500: I can get the BBB to connect to the wifi by issuing wpa_sup from the cli
  • [14:18:51] <cityLights> but I hoped the device can achive wifi up-on boot
  • [14:19:04] <cityLights> so, is koen free now?
  • [14:19:17] <cityLights> and why doesn't this channel supprt ~seen?
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  • [14:20:19] <emeb> av500: is Magnastat a curie-temp based temp regulator?
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  • [14:22:54] <mranostay> morning
  • [14:23:54] <panto> hi mranostay
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  • [14:27:59] <panto> hmm, PRU data memory is not arbitrated properly when accessed by the host while the PRUs are active
  • [14:29:27] <mru> not even data?
  • [14:29:53] <panto> no, that's not it
  • [14:31:07] <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: you're welcome... does it work fine? no issues?
  • [14:31:44] <mranostay> mru: we are back on topic?
  • [14:32:07] <mru> no such thing
  • [14:32:14] <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: I don't use it on a beagle. On a pandaboard it works.
  • [14:32:44] * martinm interjected, "Qba'g urne, jr pna fubhg lbh"
  • [14:32:44] <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: that's cool
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  • [14:35:34] <mrpackethead> topic
  • [14:35:36] <mrpackethead> ?
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  • [14:36:36] <UK_space_trial> mt9p031 camera
  • [14:37:28] <UK_space_trial> I have been trying to modify the exposure value on the beagleboard for several weeks now, and I can't seem to get a build of anstrom that allows me to change the value using Aptina's instructions.
  • [14:38:28] <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: I havn't tried it with the BBB yet, but I guess it won't work well there without USB DMA
  • [14:39:08] <UK_space_trial> When I finish the readme given by aptina, I gave a build but it's so barebone that I can't communicate with the camera, because the build does not have i2c packages. I've also tried a build by Max Galemin, but it does not have the packages needed to actaully perform the experiments I need.
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  • [14:39:54] <UK_space_trial> I'm using the beagleboard xm rev 3. Forgot to mention that
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  • [15:03:48] <cityLights> well, I am about to head home
  • [15:03:53] <Overlordanny> Hi all, I know the BBB has 4 GPIO connectors designated for timers but are these I/O or simply output timers? i.e. can i give the board an input timer? thanks!
  • [15:04:02] <cityLights> av500: can you please call koen?
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  • [15:05:03] <av500> will the real koen please stand up
  • [15:05:51] <cityLights> I ran opkg install connman-angstrom-settings connman-tools
  • [15:06:16] <cityLights> in a desperate attempt to solve this
  • [15:06:46] <av500> Overlordanny: what is an input timer?
  • [15:08:03] <Overlordanny> like can i give the board a timer? the onboard one is too inaccurate for my purposes
  • [15:08:19] <panto> what do you mean give the board a timer?
  • [15:08:20] <Overlordanny> a timer input*
  • [15:08:33] <panto> the timers are available
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  • [15:08:59] <panto> but there's no such capability in the drivers IIRC
  • [15:09:04] <Overlordanny> but are the timer connections simply an output of the ARM 3558x processor?
  • [15:09:04] <av500> you can connect a clock source
  • [15:09:06] <panto> you might have to hack around in dm_timer
  • [15:09:08] <av500> and get interrrupts
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  • [15:09:11] <Overlordanny> you can connect a clock source?
  • [15:09:14] <Overlordanny> coooool thanks!
  • [15:09:16] <av500> yes and no
  • [15:09:20] <panto> no
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  • [15:09:22] <av500> to a GPIO
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  • [15:09:26] <av500> and get interrupts
  • [15:09:27] <panto> what do you want to do exactly?
  • [15:09:39] <av500> time timer timings
  • [15:09:46] <Overlordanny> hmm k.
  • [15:09:56] <av500> there is no external clock input
  • [15:09:58] <av500> afaik
  • [15:10:15] <Overlordanny> well I'm using it for data acquisition and I need like 100Khz accuracy
  • [15:10:25] <av500> but you could use an external clock to measure you internal
  • [15:10:25] <av500> and correct it
  • [15:11:17] <Overlordanny> ok. internal clock is 32Khz right? but i've heard it's a pretty inaccurate oscillator
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  • [15:12:03] <panto> what are you measuring exactly
  • [15:12:16] <panto> IIRC timers have that hardware capability
  • [15:12:25] <panto> whether the drivers expose it that's another matter
  • [15:12:35] <av500> there is a 24mhz xtal too
  • [15:12:40] <Defiant> OMG http://sakuraboard.net/index_en.html
  • [15:12:41] <Overlordanny> NSA secrets
  • [15:12:41] <ka6sox> airspeed altitude of an unladen swallow
  • [15:12:51] <panto> maybe eCAP would work best
  • [15:12:55] <panto> but there's no driver for it
  • [15:12:58] <av500> Defiant: yes, I have one :)
  • [15:13:24] <Defiant> av500: you liked the color?
  • [15:13:51] <av500> the board is pink, very nice
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  • [15:15:03] <av500> wow, 29 exact steps
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  • [15:16:43] * Defiant wonders is there is a board av500 doesn't have
  • [15:17:14] <av500> :)
  • [15:17:26] <av500> I totally forgot about it
  • [15:17:31] <av500> signed up at some website
  • [15:17:45] <av500> dont even remeber when
  • [15:18:04] <av500> https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard A20 Dev Board
  • [15:18:09] <av500> I dont have this one
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  • [15:21:02] <Defiant> I hate the Allwinner numbering..A10 has an A8
  • [15:21:43] <av500> yes
  • [15:21:47] <av500> a31 has 4x A9
  • [15:21:54] <av500> a30 has 2x A9
  • [15:22:00] <ka6sox> and they have a Pet too.
  • [15:22:56] <ka6sox> av500, its a good thing I have a Day Job....
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  • [15:51:14] <riskable> How many BeagleBones have shipped to date? Anyone know?
  • [15:51:23] <riskable> ...including the BBB
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  • [15:52:43] <mranostay> 42
  • [15:52:50] <riskable> Hah
  • [15:53:08] <riskable> I thought koen might know :)
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  • [15:54:36] <cityLights> Dear koen, by the time you will see this, I will be long away . If you find it in your heart to help a lost soul as me to figure out how to use a USB wifi stick on boot on the BBB
  • [15:54:45] <cityLights> please say how.
  • [15:54:56] <cityLights> until then , Goodbye.
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  • [15:55:48] <panto> that was beautiful
  • [15:56:08] <panto> cityLights for the Lit Nobel price
  • [15:56:12] <carslan> that was painful to look at
  • [15:56:17] <Spirilis> huh - Is there any good reason why /dev/ttyO4 can't be set to 31250 (MIDI baud rate)?
  • [15:56:32] <Spirilis> can set it to 9600, 115200 ..... no go on 31250 (invalid argument)
  • [15:56:34] <panto> divisor issues?
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  • [15:56:46] <panto> 31250 looks like a weird baudrate
  • [15:56:52] <Spirilis> yeah, it's MIDI
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  • [15:57:31] <Spirilis> it's an even divisor of round numbers, e.g. 1000000 / 32 = 31250
  • [15:58:01] <_av500_> does linux support random baud rates?
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  • [15:58:42] <Spirilis> well I guess if it doesn't, then I'll be stuck doing some ghetto MSP430 man-in-the-middle or something.
  • [15:58:47] <_av500_> no
  • [15:58:51] <_av500_> its just SW
  • [15:58:57] <_av500_> there is no need for an msp430
  • [15:59:11] <panto> hmm, what is the user space interface
  • [15:59:31] <_av500_> /dev/hayes
  • [15:59:33] <panto> I don't know if termios has that rate as
  • [15:59:50] <Spirilis> ah k, but there might be another syscall way to hit it?
  • [16:00:02] <_av500_> or hack the kernel
  • [16:00:18] <Spirilis> come to think of it I should just look up the playmidi software since I'll need it at some point anyhow. maybe that has the support built in
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  • [16:00:44] <_av500_> I did that for omap3 in the past to get my 1mbit
  • [16:01:01] <_av500_> but recent kernels support baud=1000000
  • [16:01:50] <Spirilis> oh, durr, guess this explains something. alsa's used to having kernel-sanctioned MIDI hardware available to do its thing
  • [16:02:11] <Spirilis> wonder if there exists any OMAP UART-to-MIDI adapter drivers
  • [16:02:34] <panto> Spirilis, I'm pretty sure the h/w can support that rate
  • [16:02:43] <Spirilis> yeah I'd be shocked if it couldn't.
  • [16:02:44] <panto> you have to find out how to set it though
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  • [16:02:56] <panto> termios is a pretty ancient interface
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  • [16:03:04] <Spirilis> ok thanks guys, time to dive deep
  • [16:03:35] * mranostay hands Spirilis some scuba gear
  • [16:07:31] <Spirilis> I guess an extra ghetto way is to write a secondary dto to bang the correct register bits for the UART.... lol
  • [16:07:52] * Spirilis might have to pull his pants down halfway before writing that
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  • [16:15:32] <Spirilis> yargh, not as easy as I thought. takes a sequence of bitbangs to get there.
  • [16:17:24] <mranostay> too early in the morning for bit-banging
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  • [16:48:59] <bb1> How to synchronize two beaglebones? I want to use one redundant beaglebone in my design but both of BBs should be synchronized
  • [16:49:18] <jkridner|work> bb1: what aspect do you want synchronized?
  • [16:49:26] <bb1> clock
  • [16:49:38] <jkridner|work> ntp?
  • [16:49:51] <bb1> the control signals should be exactly at the same time
  • [16:49:59] <jkridner|work> how exact is exact?
  • [16:50:14] <jkridner|work> zero tolerance is an invalid answer.
  • [16:50:24] <bb1> ms accuracy is fine not very exact
  • [16:50:35] <georgem> use ptp
  • [16:50:36] <jkridner|work> check out ntp.
  • [16:50:46] <georgem> if you want better than ntp
  • [16:51:04] <jkridner|work> georgem: never heard of it. quick google gets bogus results.
  • [16:51:18] <jkridner|work> ah, http://www.fsmlabs.com/blog/choosing-between-ptp-and-ntp
  • [16:51:38] <bb1> thanks for the help
  • [16:51:48] <georgem> IEEE 1588 v2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Time_Protocol
  • [16:52:13] <georgem> good luck getting hardware timestamping to work... although am335x technically does support it
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  • [16:53:11] <fabry> ciao
  • [16:57:04] <Spirilis> meh, finally getting off my butt and building a linux VM for doing source & kernel compiles for the 'black.
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  • [16:57:42] <Spirilis> jkridner|work: random Q if you're listening, ever seen anyone look into using the UARTs for midi work?
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  • [17:01:53] <vaizki_> model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
  • [17:01:59] <vaizki_> jei.. got them.
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  • [17:02:55] <vaizki_> spirilis, you could use a PRU for midi?
  • [17:03:18] <Spirilis> vaizki_: just to read/write the interface from linux or from alsa's midi tools, seems excessive to use the PRU for that.
  • [17:03:34] <Spirilis> especially since the UART should be perfectly capable of doing 31250 8/N/1
  • [17:04:33] <vaizki_> well if it is, then what's there to look into?
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  • [17:05:05] <vaizki_> unless you mean hacking the kernel to allow 31250
  • [17:05:05] <Spirilis> software side doesn't work. stty doesn't let you set a UART to 31250, and typically midi apps use ALSA's sequencer interface which require a kernel driver that supports talking like a sequencer.
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  • [17:05:10] <Spirilis> yeah
  • [17:05:35] <vaizki_> did you try the ioctl directly? TIOCCSERIAL
  • [17:05:40] <Spirilis> seems like it'd be straightforward for a driver using the uart to expose such an interface, just I was curious if anyone's written one yet.
  • [17:05:42] <vaizki_> TIOCSSERIAL evel
  • [17:05:44] <vaizki_> EVEN.. dammit
  • [17:05:55] <Spirilis> I've not. Collecting info now, not doing any coding...
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  • [17:07:44] <vaizki_> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/uV7tIUwzKOk
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  • [17:07:50] <vaizki_> seems like someone was there
  • [17:08:22] <Spirilis> ah, I see.
  • [17:08:24] <Spirilis> thanks
  • [17:08:46] <Spirilis> alas, not going that route, so I am going to have to dive into kernel land and look into writing a seq driver for it.
  • [17:09:07] <vaizki_> that's the spirit
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  • [17:17:45] <jkridner|work> Spirilis: yes, I have seen some folks use the UARTs for MIDI.
  • [17:18:38] <Spirilis> jkridner|work: ah k, cool. I'm assuming nobody put together an ALSA sequencer driver variant for the omap uart?
  • [17:19:04] <jkridner|work> why would they need to?
  • [17:19:34] <Spirilis> to use stock seq progs I guess, that use /dev/seq/ et al. Well I dunno, if you're just doing basic stuff you can roll your own entirely and use the /dev/ttyOx...
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  • [17:22:16] <jkridner|work> seems that everyone that has done it needed to hack up the device driver anyway.
  • [17:22:26] <Spirilis> gotcha
  • [17:22:35] <jkridner|work> 31250 isn't a baud rate supported by default it seems.
  • [17:22:39] <Spirilis> ah well, this'll be fun :)
  • [17:22:40] <Spirilis> yeah
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  • [17:23:38] <cityLights> koen: hi
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  • [17:27:43] <jkridner|work> Spirilis: most people seem to just connect USB MIDI controllers, but that is boring.
  • [17:27:54] <vaizki_> spirilis, maybe look in TI's arago for serial8250
  • [17:28:17] <vaizki_> I still think you should do it with a PRU because that's even less boring than kernel hacking
  • [17:28:18] <Spirilis> jkridner|work: yep, totally agreed. I have an interface right now, a "bb launchpad cape" and RobG's MIDI boosterpack from 43oh.com so it has the optoisolators et al already rigged together.
  • [17:29:44] <Spirilis> ultimate goal is to eventually hack together a synthesizer app that uses samples I record from my drumset in the basement and spits it out in response to a midi drumkit (plus fixing a little "glitch" in the drumkit's midi, but that's a separate problem)
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  • [17:51:16] <martinm> picking cherries for pie
  • [17:51:33] * martinm grumps.... this sin't the google bar...
  • [17:54:48] <mranostay> at least you weren't typing anything else..
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  • [17:58:06] <martinm> yes, the llamas and alpacas are safe for now
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  • [18:05:02] <codd7> Hi. Is the board revision written somewhere on the board? I have a beagleboard-xm
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  • [18:07:09] <jkridner|work> codd7: typically on the Ethernet jack.
  • [18:10:39] <codd7> it says "LINK-PP", "LPJ1026AGNL", and "1229" - they seem to be the model number for the ethernet jack itself?
  • [18:11:42] <codd7> A sticker near the ethernet jack says "00" and another near the reset button says "C2"
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  • [18:19:43] <codd7> jkridner|work hmm?
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  • [18:54:18] <cedric_> hello
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  • [18:57:35] <cedric_> I design a cape , and I find the location of the connector j1 from the P8 connector millimeter
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  • [18:58:07] <cedric_> Does someone could tell me?
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  • [19:05:29] <_av500_> in the gerbers
  • [19:05:56] <_av500_> cedric_: or search the channel logs
  • [19:06:03] <_av500_> it was asked and answered a few days ago
  • [19:06:11] <_av500_> but I forgot
  • [19:06:38] <mranostay> _av500_: beer?
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  • [19:09:15] <mranostay> wmat: maple syrup dude
  • [19:09:54] <wmat> mranostay: yup
  • [19:10:29] <jkridner|work> codd7: C2 then
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  • [19:12:48] <mranostay> wmat: hmm i should try a maple and crown
  • [19:14:50] <wmat> mranostay: maple and anything
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  • [19:24:02] <mranostay> wmat: how about Mrs. Buttersworth?
  • [19:24:16] <mranostay> that is almost as good as real maple syrup right? :)
  • [19:24:45] <mranostay> like Hersey's is almost as good as swiss chocolcate, right KotH?
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  • [19:29:56] <vaizki_> heresy :P
  • [19:29:58] <cedric_> _av500_ : with which open gerber and measure?
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  • [19:35:17] <vaizki_> there are DXF files in the ZIPs that you find for the PCB details
  • [19:35:23] <vaizki_> look inside them
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  • [19:36:10] <KotH> mranostay: yes, like dying from lepper and a month long, fully paid holliday on the maledives are the same
  • [19:36:29] <vaizki_> ok what is lepper?
  • [19:36:53] <vaizki_> oh leprosy
  • [19:37:07] <KotH> er.. yes..
  • [19:37:10] <KotH> sorry..
  • [19:37:13] <mranostay> KotH: what is your address. need to send chocolate
  • [19:37:26] <KotH> mranostay: i wont touch hersey with a 10m pole
  • [19:37:38] <mranostay> hey even koen likes Bud Light
  • [19:37:54] <vaizki_> what about beer, does he like beer?
  • [19:37:56] <SpeedEvil> Leprosy is readily treatable with the cheapest antibiotics
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  • [19:38:15] <KotH> SpeedEvil: yes, but's a very awfull death...
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  • [19:38:19] <mranostay> vaizki_: i never drink the stuff
  • [19:38:28] <mranostay> straight edge all the way
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  • [19:38:55] <KotH> mranostay: and finding my address is an easy exercise for anyone who knows how to use the publicly stored information on the intarwebz
  • [19:38:59] <bclerc> I beleive my beagleboard has bricked, i have no video no input device is being recognized, any suggestions
  • [19:38:59] <vaizki_> ok but I'm off to Midsummer frolicking and yes there will be beer.
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  • [19:39:30] <mranostay> skipping with beer?
  • [19:39:30] <KotH> bclerc: attach a serial cable and see what it prints
  • [19:39:44] <bclerc> ok
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  • [19:48:18] <mranostay> last day for LinuxCon submissions isn't it?
  • [19:53:19] <KotH> wasnt that end of july?
  • [19:53:45] <KotH> All submissions must be received by July 21, 2013 at 11:55pm (GMT).
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  • [20:21:17] <mranostay> KotH: ELC-E != LinuxCon
  • [20:21:47] <KotH> ah.. you meant the one in mordor
  • [20:21:52] <KotH> sorry, dont care about that ;->
  • [20:23:02] <Stanto> Ugh, so, I forgot to patch dtc in the debian image for the beaglebone black, which explains why I haven't been able to pinmux properly
  • [20:23:10] <Stanto> I think
  • [20:23:13] <mranostay> KotH: bite me
  • [20:23:19] <Stanto> I may need to do the uboot and kernel too, I'm not certain
  • [20:24:23] <Stanto> Anyone tried messing with debian on beaglebone black?
  • [20:24:25] <KotH> mranostay: i let panto bite you, i guess he must be starving right now in .gr
  • [20:27:09] <mranostay> KotH: still better than a turk :P
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  • [20:29:19] <KotH> mranostay: turks dont need to take a bite from lowly, beer feed beings like you. because they are rioting for political reasons, not because they are not getting any money from the EU anymore
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  • [20:29:59] <Rickta59> Stanto: m_billybob seems to like it
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  • [20:30:38] <_Sy_> Hello all
  • [20:30:48] <djlewis> hello one
  • [20:31:44] <_Sy_> :)
  • [20:31:58] <KotH> hello off by one
  • [20:32:22] <mranostay> KotH: boo hoo
  • [20:32:31] <_Sy_> Finally got broadband back.
  • [20:32:38] * mranostay is packing
  • [20:32:44] <mranostay> Hershey's for KotH
  • [20:32:54] <_Sy_> If you can call it that...download only .63MB
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  • [20:36:30] <_Sy_> nite nite
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  • [20:38:22] <_av500_> yay, tropical storm
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  • [20:44:15] <droidgeek> Hello
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  • [20:45:09] <droidgeek> Is anybody there?
  • [20:45:53] <kfoltman> Nothing but us trolls.
  • [20:46:47] <droidgeek> Can you explain anything about beagleboard black?
  • [20:47:07] <droidgeek> Is it a sort of device?
  • [20:47:26] <wmat> that reminds me
  • [20:47:45] <wmat> mranostay: invite me to the troll community already!
  • [20:47:57] <kfoltman> wmat: are you ready to move under the bridge?
  • [20:48:16] <Defiant> droidgeek: Yes, the BBB is an USB Device if you want it to be
  • [20:48:18] <droidgeek> Actually i was asking for beaglebone..
  • [20:48:19] <kfoltman> or, to start living under the bridge, to be more precise
  • [20:48:56] <wmat> kfoltman: of course
  • [20:49:07] <wmat> kfoltman: luckily, i like goat as well
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  • [20:49:56] <droidgeek> <Defiant> What is it used for? Can you elaborate please..
  • [20:50:35] <kfoltman> droidgeek: I mainly use it to illuminate the room in brightish blue
  • [20:50:54] <Defiant> droidgeek: I use it in my world domination project
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  • [20:52:00] <panto> back
  • [20:52:07] <droidgeek> Are you talking about SoC project?
  • [20:52:32] <kfoltman> Defiant is designing his/her own SoC? ambitious goal ;)
  • [20:53:06] <Defiant> what?
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  • [20:53:32] <SpeedEvil> Well - there is someone over on ##electronics doing his own processor design and novel security architecture into a laptop.
  • [20:53:40] <SpeedEvil> (Though admittedly into a FPGA
  • [20:53:56] <Defiant> which limits the speed to about 200mhz
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  • [20:54:11] <Defiant> I stay with the Zynq-7000
  • [20:54:15] <droidgeek> Defiant: I mean Google Summer of Code..are you a mentor or a student?
  • [20:54:16] <SpeedEvil> It's a bit faster than that IIRC
  • [20:54:27] <kfoltman> SpeedEvil: I only know about the guy who is designing an Ethernet switch (azonenberg)
  • [20:54:30] <SpeedEvil> And of course, you can parallelise somewhat
  • [20:54:32] <Defiant> droidgeek: aah different SoC..none
  • [20:54:38] <SpeedEvil> his other project is a laptop
  • [20:54:47] <Defiant> droidgeek: SoC for me is System on Chip
  • [20:55:20] <wmat> isn't it for everyone?
  • [20:55:40] * wmat notes scrollback
  • [20:55:57] <kfoltman> Well, you'd expect that interpretation in a channel that is about a dev board that incorporates a system-on-chip ;)
  • [20:55:58] <wmat> GSoC != SoC
  • [20:56:50] <droidgeek> Defiant: O that's good. Actually I was looking for some idea for a potential Summer of Code project of mine, the next year..And I was wondering if Beagleboard community could be of any help to me as a mentor..
  • [20:57:37] <droidgeek> wmat: That's correct. I got it, lately though..;)
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  • [20:58:25] <wmat> no worries
  • [20:58:37] <wmat> I wish they'd do Google Life of Code
  • [20:58:49] <wmat> a summer just seems so short
  • [20:59:08] <droidgeek> Hey guys, I'm a noob blogger. Would you mind leaving a feedback, on www.androidandroting.blogspot.com ?
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  • [21:00:20] <tim_d[o_0]b> I'm in the middle of flashing my BBB with Ubuntu??? Does anyone know if 2 solid LEDs is indicative of anything? Is there a problem, or should I just wait a while longer until all 4 are lit up?
  • [21:00:29] <droidgeek> wmat: lol..yeah you're right! And for some it takes half a decade or so for trying and getting into that GSoC..:P
  • [21:01:12] <wmat> droidgeek: you're url 404s
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  • [21:05:23] <droidgeek> wmat: Let my paste it again.. http://androidandrooting.blogspot.in/
  • [21:05:39] <cmicali> has anyone seen dropbear suddenly not accepting new connections
  • [21:05:49] <cmicali> no log messages, just silent death?
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  • [21:09:56] <wmat> droidgeek: tip - you navigation font is painfully bad
  • [21:12:11] <a_jain> I'm trying to run Android on the Black. I was trying to get it to flash onto the eMMC, but when I followed the instructions online, none of the user LEDs were starting up, and Android never booted. How could I get Android to boot on the BeagleBone Black?
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  • [21:12:39] <a_jain> I was trying from this link: http://icculus.org/~hendersa/android/
  • [21:13:40] <droidgeek> wmat: And what about the layout, content?
  • [21:14:47] <wmat> droidgeek: fine
  • [21:15:00] <wmat> droidgeek: where's the beagle connection?
  • [21:16:47] <droidgeek> wmat: Sorry, I didn't get you?
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  • [21:17:29] <wmat> droidgeek: you're soliciting feedback on your blog in an IRC channel dedicated to the beagleboard, so I'm curious where the connection is?
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  • [21:20:44] <dk-> I don't know if this is the wrong place for general ARM-questions. I'm mucking about with the BBB and don't see how I can branch to user mode and keep kernel space unreadable from user-mode. If I set the TTB register and set user mode, the branch instruction after that jumps to the user process won't be readable. Sorry again if this is the wrong place :)
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  • [21:22:03] <droidgeek> wmat: Actually I'm a newbie for this community, and was looking for ideas for GSoC on some website, when I came to know about Beagleboard as a mentoring organisation..That blog feedback was an odd move.
  • [21:27:29] <levi> dk-: I don't have a specific answer for you, but I've found the ARM technical documentation to be pretty thorough and it's freely available.
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  • [21:35:26] <dk-> levi: Thanks. I've read a bit in the docs but of course I can't claim to have read it all :) But from what I can see it's mostly how to do each single step (which I get), and not so much on how to put it all together, which I suspect is more of an implementation issue. And so I'm a bit curious on how this is usually implemented. But I'll have a more thorough look in the docs, as I said I've only read fraction of it.
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  • [21:38:51] <levi> dk-: My only other suggestion would be to look for some sample code from a free RTOS or something like that.
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  • [21:39:27] <dk-> levi: Okay, thanks for the tip :)
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  • [21:42:20] <levi> Sorry I don't have anything more than meta-advice, but those are the places I'd look.
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  • [21:48:25] <mranostay> mrpackethead: hey kiwi
  • [21:49:08] <dk-> levi: Information on where to look is the best kind :)
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  • [22:13:31] <droidgeek> Hey guys, I'm a noob blogger. Would you mind leaving a feedback, on www.androidandroting.blogspot.com ?
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  • [22:15:17] <droidgeek> Sorry, that link won't work..This one's fine: www.androidandrooting.blogspot.com
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  • [22:20:18] <_av500_> and?
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  • [22:21:19] <thurgood> ... no?
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  • [22:24:21] <eklo> How do I change the runlevel to text on the BBB with Ubuntu. I've changed /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf from 2 to 1 but then the board doesn't boot.
  • [22:26:36] <_av500_> #ubuntu
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  • [22:31:38] <ds2> so if you utter #ubuntu 3 times quickly, does a genie come out?
  • [22:32:00] <eklo> no, a penguin dies
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  • [22:53:09] <emeb> Michael Keaton shows up and causes trouble?
  • [22:54:08] <ds2> full moon?
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  • [23:20:55] <bleeter> lol eklo
  • [23:21:16] <bleeter> well more a genuine 'hah' than 'lol'
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  • [23:43:17] <kaektech> Howdy trolls, hobbits, and jihadists
  • [23:44:25] <martinm> today's special appears to be Hershey lovers
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