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  • [01:20:49] <rpaulo> hi, I think I may have killed the internal flash. the beaglebone black doesn
  • [01:20:55] <rpaulo> *doesn't boot
  • [01:21:08] <rpaulo> all I see is a bunch of "CCCCC" on my serial console
  • [01:21:28] <rpaulo> any ideas what it might be?
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  • [01:29:05] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> thurgood: I just came in to ask about cmake
  • [01:29:15] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> more specifically, is there a gui so i don't have to write this friggin crap by hand?
  • [01:29:42] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> the auto dependency stuff is absolute gibberish
  • [01:29:50] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> i jsut want a gui wher i can drag and drop files
  • [01:29:59] <thurgood> what are you trying o do with it, compile or make your own?
  • [01:30:09] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> just starting with it
  • [01:30:20] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> was writing my own makefiles, but realized i'm not in the 1980's anymore.
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  • [01:31:04] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> all this text file stuff is totally insane. it's friggin 2013.
  • [01:31:22] <thurgood> I haven't written anything from scratch,just tweaked existing projects to work with the beagle/OE's bitbake system
  • [01:31:27] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> i'm installing kdevelop now. if i can't find anything, i'll just add the files to a kdevelop project and be done with it.
  • [01:31:50] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> it's such a joke that we still hand write all this crap.
  • [01:31:56] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> in a text editor.
  • [01:32:16] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> they're logical dependencies and whatnot...*absolutely* perfect task for a gui.
  • [01:32:33] <thurgood> if you're not distributing your project I would advise against cmake.... even ifyou are I would probably advise against it :P
  • [01:32:45] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> i'm up for any alternative.
  • [01:32:54] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> looks like kdevelop can use cmake or autotools.
  • [01:33:05] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> but, this is just an in house thing, so as long as it compiles.
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  • [01:34:51] <thurgood> I use eclipse most of the time
  • [01:35:08] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> does it generate a makefile?
  • [01:35:31] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> cause i can't build on the machine i develop on.
  • [01:36:04] <thurgood> why can't you build on the same machine?
  • [01:36:52] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> cause i don't want to. i'm in the future. i put my source on a network drive. typing source code is completely unrelated to building source code in my world.
  • [01:37:35] <thurgood> ah so you have a build server, or similar?
  • [01:38:17] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> yeaoh
  • [01:38:32] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> and, sometimes i'm on my laptop, sometimes i'm at work. i don't like being bound to anything.
  • [01:38:45] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> i guess i'll give eclipse another go.
  • [01:38:52] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> it's totally broken for c++ at the moment though.
  • [01:39:03] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> can't rearrange project folders.
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  • [01:39:15] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> i see there's a cmake plugin for it.
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  • [01:48:04] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> awesome, netbeans can do it, but you have to tell it the source directories...so it completely ignores your project setup.
  • [01:48:05] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> sweet.
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  • [01:50:06] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> nice, have to tell it the include directories too...uuuugghhh.
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  • [01:50:10] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> some days i hate open source everything.
  • [01:52:16] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> hahah, ms got wise. apparently they had an "export to makefile", but removed it in version 7.
  • [01:52:32] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> so someone made a plugin, but it only works with 2010.
  • [01:53:55] <CalcMan> so I think i've got systemd compiled, how do I turn the results into something on the sd card that can boot?
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  • [02:07:20] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> searching for hand-written-makefile alternatives, it's crazy how fervently some people defend hand writing makefiles!
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  • [02:39:15] <m_billybob> PRU_EVTOUT_2 heh i know of atleast one in here and hes really good at it :)
  • [02:39:19] <m_billybob> it aint me
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  • [02:47:17] <m_billybob> You alright Rick ?
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  • [03:06:07] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> looks like scons is the solution.
  • [03:06:11] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> err...sane.
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  • [03:11:08] <iRonManNCSU> does anyone know if the pre-baked Ubuntu for beaglebone has Cloud9 in it?
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  • [03:20:21] <m_billybob> iRonManNCSU i would think it should, but would have to ask Robert Nelson i think
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  • [03:22:34] <canadaduane_> Is there a way to copy the eMMC to the SD card, as a backup of what's on the device?
  • [03:23:06] <m_billybob> canadaduane_ yes there is a solution on the groups
  • [03:23:21] <canadaduane_> k, I'll search
  • [03:23:24] <canadaduane_> thank you
  • [03:23:33] <m_billybob> np
  • [03:23:58] <iRonManNCSU> i just got by beagle bone... i eventually want to use a USB cam to do some computer vision stuff, but want to start out with a simpler project using the iO ports... what linux are people using on their beaglebone Blacks for this?
  • [03:24:55] <m_billybob> if you want ease the production linux seeems to be angstrom
  • [03:25:35] <m_billybob> but there are probably people using all flavors. debian utunu angstrom fedora sabayon gentoo . . .
  • [03:25:41] <m_billybob> and i might have missed a couple
  • [03:26:00] <iRonManNCSU> it looks like a lot of the angstrom binaries are compiled for armv7 not armv8... does this make a big difference?
  • [03:26:31] <m_billybob> cortex A8 *is* armv7
  • [03:26:41] <iRonManNCSU> oh.. that sort of makes sense...
  • [03:26:55] <m_billybob> not really
  • [03:27:04] <iRonManNCSU> ha
  • [03:27:07] <m_billybob> rpi forinstance is armv11 i think
  • [03:27:20] <iRonManNCSU> okay
  • [03:27:31] <m_billybob> im not an expert so someone feel free to correct my ignorance
  • [03:27:38] <iRonManNCSU> no arm stuff is weird
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  • [03:28:54] <m_billybob> well im constantly busy learnign new stuff so im apt to misremember minor details
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  • [03:30:24] <iRonManNCSU> once i start the development work, i don't plant to futz with the OS too much... i'm trying to find a solid/stable/optimized platform before I "dig in"
  • [03:31:21] <canadaduane_> for anyone looking for the thread on backing up the eMMC, it's here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/beagleboard/mmcblk0$20black/beagleboard/vnXk58eMaPc/cfPHwM812rEJ (thx again to m_billybob)
  • [03:32:43] <iRonManNCSU> looks like Robert Nelson is THE beaglebone linux guy...
  • [03:35:26] <thurgood> I suppose if you want ubuntu
  • [03:36:47] <iRonManNCSU> are there any good angstrom based distros designed for SD cards? the link from beaglebone.org seems to link to fairly outdated builds
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  • [03:47:40] <m_billybob> np canadaduane_
  • [03:47:55] <m_billybob> having problems with second bone not showing up on the network not sure why
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  • [03:48:24] <m_billybob> changed bone name to something othe than default still doesnt work
  • [03:48:51] <m_billybob> Anyone here have multiple bbb's on the same router ( local network ) ?
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  • [03:51:08] <Moult> hey all, i've got a servo i'd like to control with a bbb. anyone can point me in the right direction?
  • [03:52:17] <m_billybob> Moult thats a rather broad question
  • [03:52:46] <Moult> m_billybob: well, i'd like to send a signal to make it change rotation direction/velocity
  • [03:56:15] <Moult> m_billybob: for example, i don't know what pin i should connect the signal to on the bbb, and which mode it should be set to
  • [03:57:16] <m_billybob> Moult, yeah I dont know enough about it to comment, software i might be able to dredge somthing up when im no otherwise occupied. but im not an EE
  • [03:57:21] <m_billybob> I wouldnt want to steer you wrong
  • [03:57:27] <Moult> m_billybob: neither :(
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  • [03:58:11] <m_billybob> like if i give you wrong link for software or somethign thats fine but tellign you to hook up hardware i know little about could be disasterous
  • [03:58:20] <Ed22> I have ubuntu and uarts working on a SD image no S2 boot
  • [03:58:27] <Ed22> took me forever but i posted files on http://www.marchdvd.com/bbbk/
  • [03:58:28] <Ed22> http://www.marchdvd.com/bbbk/
  • [03:58:31] <Moult> m_billybob: yeah. i'm a software guy too
  • [03:58:35] <m_billybob> Moult i think though most definately you're goign ot be lookign at PWM
  • [03:59:13] <m_billybob> grats Ed22
  • [03:59:37] <Ed22> sure enjoy!
  • [03:59:47] * m_billybob is currently fighting second bbb not booting onto the local network
  • [03:59:52] <Ed22> click on some ads and help me pay off my BBBK !! :)
  • [03:59:53] <m_billybob> no idea why . . .
  • [04:00:00] <m_billybob> heh im runing debian
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  • [04:01:28] <thurgood> damnit.. ac went out :/
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  • [04:02:48] <m_billybob> glad we're offgrid :)
  • [04:06:59] <thurgood> doesn't work so well in central texas
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  • [04:10:12] <Ed22> does nayone have a device tree for Analog and harts at the same time ?
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  • [04:19:05] <prpplague> Analog and harts?
  • [04:19:30] <prpplague> sounds like a cheesy cop show on NBC
  • [04:19:46] <Ed22> Hi Router I have Ubuntu with Analog and Uarts http://www.marchdvd.com/bbbk/ SD images posted here
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  • [04:27:01] <hahahu> is anyone here?
  • [04:28:14] <dm8tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  • [04:28:29] <hahahu> win8 64-bit can Install beaglebone driver?
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  • [04:31:36] <dm8tbr> which beaglebone?
  • [04:31:41] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> hahahu: http://bit.ly/112M98I
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  • [04:32:45] <dm8tbr> http://www.mcu-turkey.com/arduino-windows-8de-driver-problemi-cozumu/
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  • [04:36:06] <ka6sox> howdy dm8tbr
  • [04:36:15] <ka6sox> either you are a fast flyer or you are home :)
  • [04:36:15] <dm8tbr> sup
  • [04:36:22] <dm8tbr> sadly home :(
  • [04:36:33] <ka6sox> rats...
  • [04:36:36] <ka6sox> maybe next time
  • [04:36:37] <dm8tbr> yup
  • [04:37:13] <ka6sox> I'm still driving up at 0:dark:30
  • [04:38:53] <ka6sox> I have to see what it takes to upgrade my prusa V2 to a V3
  • [04:40:21] <dm8tbr> enjoy the trip, I'm sure it will be very interesting
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  • [04:41:13] <sns> hello
  • [04:41:29] <ka6sox> Bringing kj6zrt with em
  • [04:41:31] <ka6sox> er me
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  • [05:09:37] <ds2> ka6sox: ping
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  • [05:15:51] <ka6sox> ds2, I'm here :)
  • [05:16:18] <ka6sox> but about to go to bed as I have to leave @ 0:dark:30
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  • [05:45:45] <Moult> i'm attempting http://robotcarlambo.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/gpio-on-beaglebone-blinking-leds.html with the bbb but can't get an led to turn off. any ideas what's wrong with it?
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  • [05:53:40] <rushikesh988> Moult: don't know
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  • [05:56:43] <Moult> hmm, odd, after reading this: http://raspberryalphaomega.org.uk/?p=843 i tried using P8_12 and that worked flawlessly
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  • [05:58:00] <Moult> i wonder why P8_3 didn't work
  • [06:05:27] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> is it muxed for gpio?
  • [06:06:23] <Moult> PRU_EVTOUT_2: maybe i need to check that
  • [06:06:28] <Moult> PRU_EVTOUT_2: by the way, do you know which pin i can use if i wanted to send a signal to a servo?
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  • [06:07:26] <Moult> PRU_EVTOUT_2: also, isn't the default mode mode7?
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  • [06:08:58] <Moult> i don't seem to have a /sys/class/pwm
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  • [06:09:37] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> there's a list of default pin mux on beagleboard.org
  • [06:09:42] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> but...it looks like the webpage is broken.
  • [06:11:11] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> pretty sure there's a pwm pin to use, by default, and you can use analogWrite bonescript.
  • [06:13:46] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> i'm sure a list came with the reference manual though.
  • [06:16:07] <PRU_EVTOUT_2> trying it on my bbb (that i've never updated and is very out of date), doesn't look like analogWrite works. so i'm not sure.
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  • [06:17:12] <m_billybob> im still learnign this stuff but isnt there some device tree string or command you have to echo into the /dev/class directory ?
  • [06:17:19] <m_billybob> was reading that on the groups
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  • [06:17:48] <m_billybob> on debian with my bbb i have a /dev/class/pwm path, but its empty
  • [06:18:29] <m_billybob> the i2c path does seem to be populated though
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  • [06:21:35] <KotH> gr??ezi
  • [06:24:38] <dm8tbr> a lovely saturday morning jihad to you too
  • [06:25:07] <KotH> thanks, i hope you woke up with a godly revelation yourself :)
  • [06:25:37] <KotH> dm8tbr, av500: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOXwTGFx_8k
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  • [06:27:37] <dm8tbr> OMFG
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  • [06:28:52] <dm8tbr> 1200ecu, the fool and his money are easily parted
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  • [06:31:44] <_av500_> KotH: that is why I bring my own bar code stickers to the store
  • [06:32:51] <dm8tbr> _av500_: and that helps to save money too!
  • [06:33:58] * dm8tbr should offer that on ebay, a 'specially engineered barcode' that neutralizes things and by pure luck happens to be identical with a very common and very expensive product
  • [06:35:43] <dm8tbr> pack of hundred barcodes, just 200ecu
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  • [06:43:22] <mru> KotH: omg
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  • [06:54:11] <bb> anyone who could help me to communicate webcam to bb
  • [06:54:17] <bb> please its very urgent
  • [06:54:32] <KotH> it's caturday. nothing is urgent
  • [06:54:51] <m_billybob> idk could be for his thesis lol
  • [06:54:56] <KotH> beside, webcam problems do not belong to #beagle
  • [06:55:01] <dm8tbr> omgz deadlinez!
  • [06:55:08] <m_billybob> in which case sure that'll be $1000 USD up front thanks
  • [06:55:18] <dm8tbr> Hire me. My rate would be onehundredandfifty an hour. Plus VAT and expenses. Four hours minimum. Dollars for small problems, Euros for big problems. British Pounds for management problems.
  • [06:55:32] <Shadyman> lulz
  • [06:55:39] <bb> i want to take video input from webcam and process it on beagleboard
  • [06:55:42] <KotH> dm8tbr: that sound vaguely familiar
  • [06:55:45] * dm8tbr loves his '/rate' alias he stole from vowe.net
  • [06:55:51] <dm8tbr> KotH: vowe.net FAQ
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  • [06:56:24] <bb> people here help others
  • [06:56:28] <bb> not charge them
  • [06:56:52] <m_billybob> yeah well we're serious too.
  • [06:57:02] <KotH> no, we charge people to help them, because we need money to feed our hungry children
  • [06:57:15] <bb> then sorry i don't want hav money to pay
  • [06:57:16] <KotH> ok.. actually we need the money to feed av500's hungry children
  • [06:57:24] <m_billybob> yeah children must grown up big and strong for the JIHAD !
  • [06:57:37] <bb> i would prefer free help from people who want to help
  • [06:58:04] <Shadyman> bb: Sounds like a job for OpenCV
  • [06:58:15] <Shadyman> beyond that, I know nothing.
  • [06:58:34] <mrpackethead> ding.
  • [06:59:21] <_av500_> bb: try stating a problem
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  • [06:59:27] <bb> well do u hav any idea as to how to get video output of camera displayed on screen?
  • [06:59:29] <_av500_> what you did and what failed
  • [06:59:32] <m_billybob> bb, read the topic. apply said topic to discussion ;)
  • [06:59:39] <_av500_> bb: try cheese
  • [07:00:05] <mrpackethead> _av500_: KotH will suggest chococlate is better, mranostay will suggest beer.
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  • [07:00:31] <bb> cheese is not installing on beagleboard
  • [07:01:20] <dm8tbr> that depends on what you run on it
  • [07:01:22] <bb> any command which can tell linux running on beagleboard to open video output from camera?
  • [07:01:38] <bb> has anyone worked on it before?
  • [07:01:48] <m_billybob> was a post on the groups about it
  • [07:01:59] <bb> previous xperience people pls help me
  • [07:02:06] <m_billybob> could try searchin the groups. not sure it was beagleboard specific
  • [07:02:26] <bb> give me link
  • [07:02:30] <mrpackethead> bb: is'nt this assingment due tommorrow?
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  • [07:03:11] <m_billybob> msp430 forums had a post thats starting to sound very similar to this request
  • [07:03:45] <m_billybob> "halp me make msp430 launchpad and xxxx controller talk CAN for my thesis project . .."
  • [07:03:59] <mranostay> they make chocolate beer.. so no need for a jihad
  • [07:04:10] <KotH> ugh..
  • [07:04:14] <dm8tbr> I prefer caffeinated stout
  • [07:04:18] <KotH> who did come up with that abomination?
  • [07:04:37] <bb> are there people here who are serious about helping others or no?
  • [07:05:09] <bvb> i support bb
  • [07:06:30] <KotH> bb: well.. 1) you did not do your homework, 2) you did not try do to it yourself either, 3) you did not google 4) you expect us to help a lazy fart to do his homework just because we are good people? 4) in what fantasy world do you live?
  • [07:06:42] <KotH> damn.. too early to count correctly
  • [07:07:05] <mranostay> some of us are exiting soberland too
  • [07:07:17] <KotH> oh..
  • [07:07:24] <m_billybob> and yet others of us are abotu to hit the sack.
  • [07:07:24] <KotH> mranostay: still friday overthere?
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  • [07:07:31] <bb> who told KotH is good?!
  • [07:07:37] <bb> totally bad
  • [07:07:42] <mranostay> saturday now
  • [07:07:44] * dm8tbr knows koth is very good
  • [07:07:56] * dm8tbr would hire koth if he needed his expertise
  • [07:08:11] <KotH> dm8tbr: expertise in the consumption of large amounts of chocolate? ;)
  • [07:08:18] <dm8tbr> yes, that too
  • [07:08:33] <dm8tbr> don't forget to remind me before the next event ;)
  • [07:08:42] <KotH> i will :)
  • [07:08:47] <mranostay> i cut the line at donut beer
  • [07:08:59] <bb> dm8tbr & KotH stop flirting around here
  • [07:09:09] <mranostay> oregon will brew anything
  • [07:09:23] <KotH> mranostay: good thing i dont drink beer
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  • [07:09:39] <dm8tbr> awwwwwww
  • [07:09:52] <mrpackethead> bb what sort of creature are you?
  • [07:10:02] <dm8tbr> an lazy indian student creature
  • [07:10:06] <mranostay> ok fine more for me
  • [07:10:14] <mrpackethead> you certainly are not troll, hobbit or elf.
  • [07:10:22] <mranostay> +1
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  • [07:10:27] <dm8tbr> (whois helps, oh and he rage quit already)
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  • [07:11:10] <mrpackethead> KotH: you have to help people.
  • [07:11:23] <mranostay> people are overrated
  • [07:11:24] <mrpackethead> i am arranging a duty roster now
  • [07:11:30] <KotH> mrpackethead: i help people where i can... and where i think it makes sense
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  • [07:11:43] <mrpackethead> we'll take volenters, for "dumb question duty"
  • [07:11:54] <KotH> mrpackethead: helping someone who is too lazy to try solving his own problems does not make sense
  • [07:12:17] * KotH doesnt mind dumb questions
  • [07:12:25] * KotH minds people who expect others to do their work
  • [07:12:29] <dm8tbr> +1
  • [07:12:37] <dm8tbr> oh, this is not g+...
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  • [08:58:40] <cityLights> how to run a upnp render on the black device?
  • [08:58:57] <cityLights> or, how to run xbmc, as it is a upnp render
  • [08:59:24] <cityLights> 2. after upgrading to 3.8.18 kerenl X doewnt show up any more
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  • [09:02:40] <mrpackethead> Any smarty here know what the serial debug port com settings are set to by default in the as supplied angstrom
  • [09:03:31] <dm8tbr> cityLights: bbb is not the ideal platform for xbmc
  • [09:05:16] <cityLights> ok thanks
  • [09:05:48] <cityLights> now for the upgrade issues: 1. why does upgrading the kerenel stops X from appearing on my screen?
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  • [09:10:14] <dm8tbr> cityLights: no idea, I just know, that 'opkg update' should be used more carfully than 'apt-get upgrade'
  • [09:10:53] <mrpackethead> dm8tbr: have you tryed using teh debug port?
  • [09:14:10] <dm8tbr> don't have a BBB (yet)
  • [09:15:05] <risc> hi guys - quick question, are any BSDs up and running on the black yet? I've been looking on google and can't seem to find any. Cheers!
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  • [09:18:10] <cityLights> dm8tbr: what do you mean by "should be used more carfully"?
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  • [09:22:04] <mrpackethead> another doco drama perhaps
  • [09:22:19] <mrpackethead> i'm getting gibberish from the console
  • [09:24:03] <dm8tbr> cityLights: https://plus.google.com/118008444439748692869/posts/ddAC1GqXtAH
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  • [09:26:38] <kfoltman> dm8tbr: if you plan to use opkg update, make sure you have a microsd card with original image :S I'm also in the "opkg update broke my BBB OS install" category. So now I'm using a minimal buildroot-generated "distro" instead - which was the original plan anyway.
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  • [09:36:39] <dm8tbr> kfoltman: yes, that's what I meant. I hope citylights understood that before he quit
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  • [09:51:05] <fedlap> hello, has anyone tried to use BeagleBone (white) with LCD7 and RS232 cape?
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  • [10:13:30] <KotH> fedlap: probably
  • [10:13:35] <KotH> fedlap: what's your prob?
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  • [10:23:08] <fedlap> data don't seem to arrive at cape, like if there was a short circuit on transmit or receive pin
  • [10:23:34] <fedlap> if i install the rs232 with a lcd3 cape it works fine
  • [10:23:42] <fedlap> but with lcd7 it won't
  • [10:25:55] <fedlap> I used default UART2 on rs232 cape for tx and rx, SW1 is set to 1:On, 2:Off
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  • [10:26:18] <fedlap> On LCD7 SW1 is set to 1:On, 2:On
  • [10:26:38] <fedlap> May that be a problem?
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  • [10:28:09] <KotH> check whether lcd7 uses different pins and whether those collide with the rs232 cape
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  • [10:30:59] <channa> hello
  • [10:31:46] <channa> can any body provide me link for development envoirment for beagle board
  • [10:31:49] <channa> ?
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  • [10:32:30] <dm8tbr> depends entirely on you, which distribution you'll run, which kind of software, etc.
  • [10:32:41] <dm8tbr> just think of it as a linux computer first
  • [10:33:08] <KotH> later you can think of it as a plattform for which you cross comiple
  • [10:33:18] <KotH> channa: google for embedded linux, the rest follows from there
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  • [10:35:14] <KotH> does anyone have a good aspargus receipt that would go with coregonus filet?
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  • [10:39:17] <dm8tbr> KotH: I'd give you a receipt if you gave me a recipe ;)
  • [10:39:54] <KotH> ^^'
  • [10:40:03] <KotH> still too early on caturday!
  • [10:40:18] <dm8tbr> meow
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  • [10:40:40] <dm8tbr> time to take a walk, stretch, chill out and play some ingress
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  • [10:41:02] <KotH> whats this ingress thing?
  • [10:41:16] <KotH> last weekend a couple of people were talking about that.. didnt get what it was
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  • [11:02:36] <fedlap> KotH, i've checked the schematics for rs232 and lcd7 cape and the only collision i can see is if i would use uart5...any ideas? are there any known issues?
  • [11:02:59] <KotH> sorry, nope
  • [11:03:21] <fedlap> k, thx anyway
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  • [11:04:04] <KotH> fedlap: poke our cape master mranostay, when he is sober again
  • [11:04:17] <fedlap> k, thx :)
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  • [11:19:38] <janne> KotH: ingress is an augmented reality game. when you see small groups of people walking cirles while starring on their phones/tablets they are probably playing ingress
  • [11:20:10] <SpeedEvil> you gain extra points by inducing people to walk into things.
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  • [11:21:59] <JoeCoolDesk> Is the Black arduino compatible?
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  • [11:24:18] <KotH> depends on your definition of compatible
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  • [11:24:26] <KotH> janne: ah.. nothing serious then...
  • [11:24:38] <JoeCoolDesk> KotH, running ardupilot
  • [11:24:54] * KotH has no idea what ardupilot is
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  • [11:25:03] <JoeCoolDesk> Arduino software
  • [11:25:11] <KotH> i guessed that much
  • [11:25:37] <KotH> theoretically, it should be possible to run anything you can run on arduino on the black
  • [11:25:48] <KotH> practically, you might need to port the software first
  • [11:26:07] <KotH> realistically, run linux on the black and be happy with it
  • [11:26:16] <JoeCoolDesk> Anyone ever make their own Beagle boards?
  • [11:26:32] <KotH> capes? or the board itself?
  • [11:26:39] <JoeCoolDesk> The baord itself.
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  • [11:27:19] <KotH> doestn make sense
  • [11:27:42] <KotH> producing the board itself in single pieces costs multiple times more than you pay for a black
  • [11:27:51] <JoeCoolDesk> People make their own Arduino boards all the time.
  • [11:27:55] <KotH> yeah..
  • [11:28:11] <KotH> but those arduino boards use DIL sized parts, not FBGAs
  • [11:28:24] <SpeedEvil> there are other autopoklots
  • [11:28:38] <SpeedEvil> open pilot
  • [11:29:07] <KotH> JoeCoolDesk: i know only one guy who can successfully solder an FBGA by hand
  • [11:29:27] <KotH> and he does it in less than a minute ^^'
  • [11:29:37] <fedlap> KotH, i was able to "fix" the rs232 problem :)
  • [11:29:43] <KotH> fedlap: what was it?
  • [11:29:46] <JoeCoolDesk> I didn't say HAND make
  • [11:29:48] <JoeCoolDesk> I just said make.
  • [11:30:03] <fedlap> i don't know exactly :D
  • [11:30:19] <KotH> JoeCoolDesk: uhm.. do you have an idea how much letting produce a board of the complexity of a beagle costs?
  • [11:30:25] <fedlap> there are two slots on the lcd7 cape, one says for capes and the other for bone
  • [11:30:27] <KotH> JoeCoolDesk: just NRE, not the production cost itself
  • [11:30:44] <JoeCoolDesk> Letting produce? What like a bunch of lettuce or somethin?
  • [11:30:46] <JoeCoolDesk> tss
  • [11:31:07] <KotH> fedlap: let me guess, you used the wrong one? :)
  • [11:31:24] <fedlap> no, i'm using the wrong one now :D
  • [11:31:30] <KotH> eh...
  • [11:31:45] <KotH> what is wrong and what is right lies in the eye of the beholder :)
  • [11:31:49] <JoeCoolDesk> As long as it's under 1000 dollars it's alright.
  • [11:32:02] * KotH lols
  • [11:32:08] <KotH> JoeCoolDesk: you have no idea....
  • [11:32:09] <fedlap> at first i had the rs232 cape on the slot, where it says for capes ;)
  • [11:32:48] <fedlap> and then i tried to fit the rs232 cape to the beaglebone and plug both into the beaglebone slot
  • [11:33:47] <fedlap> i tried a few things then, but now it's working with beaglebone and cape in the same slot ;)
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  • [11:35:05] <fedlap> do you agree, that placing the rs232 cape into the slot for beaglebone is wrong? ;)
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  • [11:35:41] <KotH> why should be wrong, if it works? :)
  • [11:36:58] <KotH> anyways.. gotta go and spend some money
  • [11:37:07] <SpeedEvil> JoeCoolDesk: http://www.mauve.plus.com/opensourcehw.txt
  • [11:37:07] <fedlap> k, cya and thx
  • [11:37:28] <SpeedEvil> on why hardware is hard and expensive in ways software isn't
  • [11:37:57] <SpeedEvil> in short - a thousand dollars may be optimistic
  • [11:38:35] <KotH> SpeedEvil: 1k is usually just the NRE for a board of the bbb class
  • [11:38:42] <KotH> SpeedEvil: no parts, no pcb included
  • [11:39:22] <SpeedEvil> quite, see above
  • [11:39:31] * KotH knows
  • [11:39:50] * KotH does low volume electronics of varying complexity for a living
  • [11:40:14] <SpeedEvil> I wrote this after the hundredth time people seemed not to understand that open source hardware isn't quite the same
  • [11:40:30] <JoeCoolDesk> SpeedEvil, nothing I didn't expect.
  • [11:40:50] <SpeedEvil> for arduino class, its not that bad
  • [11:41:03] <JoeCoolDesk> This isn't just a hobby for me.
  • [11:41:20] <SpeedEvil> there is worthwhile stuff you can do for $10 investment
  • [11:41:56] <JoeCoolDesk> Obviously I'm not Samsung, I'm not about to make 100,000 of something
  • [11:42:04] <JoeCoolDesk> And that's a drop in the bucket
  • [11:42:11] <JoeCoolDesk> (for them)
  • [11:42:25] <SpeedEvil> and of course, if you do have a production shop on hand, the costs change a bit
  • [11:42:33] <JoeCoolDesk> But a couple hundred a year sounds good.
  • [11:42:48] <JoeCoolDesk> For a 20,000 investment
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  • [11:45:22] <KotH> for 20k, you might get 100 boards, maybe 200 if you are lucky and production and chips are cheap
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  • [11:45:49] <JoeCoolDesk> 20,000 investment not including on-going costs.
  • [11:46:12] <JoeCoolDesk> So small chips on the scheme of things but not just tooling around the the garage here.
  • [11:46:44] <KotH> 20k investment? including design or just production?
  • [11:46:56] <KotH> for production NRE it is more than enough
  • [11:47:06] <KotH> for design, prolly not
  • [11:47:20] <JoeCoolDesk> Koth, humor me.
  • [11:47:25] <JoeCoolDesk> King of the Hill?
  • [11:47:31] <KotH> hire me ;)
  • [11:47:44] <JoeCoolDesk> Where are you located?
  • [11:47:49] <JoeCoolDesk> You can PM me
  • [11:47:54] <KotH> cocolate country
  • [11:48:14] <KotH> not to be confused with sweeden
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  • [11:48:30] <JoeCoolDesk> I think you mean Switzerland
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  • [11:48:38] <KotH> i think you are right
  • [11:48:43] <SpeedEvil> Belgium?
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  • [11:49:02] <KotH> belgium doesnt have good chocolate... they have decent pralines, but that's about it
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  • [11:49:16] <JoeCoolDesk> Have you ever had American chocolate?
  • [11:49:31] <KotH> yes
  • [11:49:33] <KotH> thanks, no thanks
  • [11:49:43] <KotH> it's even worse than japanese chocolate
  • [11:49:44] <SpeedEvil> eww
  • [11:49:45] <JoeCoolDesk> Doesn't it taste like vomit?
  • [11:50:14] <SpeedEvil> no, HFCS
  • [11:50:26] <KotH> quality wise it's close to the ukrainian i got, that the guy who got it for me described as "we use it as cement replacemnet"
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  • [11:51:27] <KotH> wel.. now i really gtg... bbl
  • [11:51:36] <JoeCoolDesk> You never answered me,.
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  • [12:15:03] <Sophira> Hiya.
  • [12:15:44] <Sophira> My BeagleBone Black has just shipped, and I have a question for you guys. What capacity of microSD card do you reckon would be best for it?
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  • [12:19:43] <SpeedEvil> 256 meg
  • [12:20:29] <Sophira> :P
  • [12:21:45] <Sophira> I figured you guys would probably have experience with what an optimal capacity might be. I was thinking 8GB or 16GB, but just wanted to know how much was recommended.
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  • [12:22:47] <Sophira> I mean, perhaps that's too large, especially considering it can boot from its own 2GB memory.
  • [12:23:27] <SpeedEvil> it depends what your doing with it
  • [12:23:42] <SpeedEvil> having a couple of cards can add flexibility
  • [12:23:53] <SpeedEvil> especially if one dies
  • [12:24:07] <SpeedEvil> but if you are using it to store media, you may need lots.
  • [12:24:18] <SpeedEvil> for a microwave oven controller, not so much
  • [12:27:20] <Sophira> Okay.
  • [12:28:55] <SpeedEvil> also, SD cards halve in price per year
  • [12:29:00] <SpeedEvil> (ish)
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  • [12:49:03] <aleek> hi! Anybody know if I can use DSP in beagle-xm to process several streams at one time?
  • [12:49:18] <aleek> in other words, is it multitasking?
  • [12:49:44] <dm8tbr> it's a C6xx dsp, I hear there is documentation for it
  • [12:50:24] <aleek> rtfm you say?:D
  • [12:50:52] <dm8tbr> sort of. at least I don't know the answer
  • [12:54:18] <Sophira> Does the BeagleBone Black support microSDXC cards?
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  • [13:03:34] <Ed237> If any one needs Uarts enabled on Ubuntu that boots from SD without S2 I have Images files
  • [13:03:40] <Ed237> I posted them on http://www.marchdvd.com/bbbk/
  • [13:04:11] <dm8tbr> Sophira: I'd expect so, just reformat from exfat to something sensible
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  • [13:31:51] <Ed237> I have Ubuntu SD images with no S2 needed to boot and working Uarts
  • [13:32:06] <Ed237> sd images I posted them on http://www.marchdvd.com/bbbk/
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  • [13:37:42] <jharvey> I would like to use a USB hub and USB drive to load files onto my BeagleBone, can someone point me to a tutorial on how to do this?
  • [13:38:03] <Ed237> yes usb drive and making sd images ?
  • [13:38:17] <Ed237> jharv -- Mac Pc linux what os ?
  • [13:39:20] <jharvey> I'm not looking for info on making the SD image, but on using a USB drive to transfer files to the BeagleBone, like media files to be played on the BB.
  • [13:39:46] <Ed237> well the eMMC is two partitions FAT32 and ext4 right??
  • [13:40:12] <Ed237> you can put in a usb connector to the BBBK and you will see teh smaller 75 meg drive partition mounted
  • [13:40:20] <Ed237> so you can copy files that way
  • [13:40:32] <jharvey> I know that. That is not what I am trying to do.
  • [13:40:37] <Ed237> another way is to use scpy
  • [13:40:49] <jharvey> I want to connect a USB drive to my BeagleBone.
  • [13:40:53] <Ed237> ok -- what r u trying to do ? sorry
  • [13:41:13] <jharvey> Let me explain a bit more.
  • [13:41:26] <jharvey> I have connected a USB hub to my BB for mouse and keyboard.
  • [13:41:57] <jharvey> I would like to be able to plug a USB drive into the hub for file transfers, but the BB does not seem to recognize the USB drive.'
  • [13:42:11] <jharvey> Perhaps I need drivers for linux?
  • [13:42:27] <Ed237> yes probably noy there is no USB/MSD (msd=Mass Storage Device) driver loaded ...
  • [13:43:07] <jharvey> Ok, that's what I thought. Is there a tutorial, or link to the drivers? I'm a bit of noob with Linux.
  • [13:43:20] <Ed237> you can look for a MSD
  • [13:43:20] <Ed237> http://www.one-eyed-alien.net/~mdharm/linux-usb/
  • [13:44:10] <jharvey> Thnks for the link, I'll start there.
  • [13:44:19] <Ed237> more relavant link http://www.lvr.com/beagleboard.htm
  • [13:44:35] <jharvey> Ok, great.
  • [13:44:48] <Ed237> non black and non bone -- this is BOARD based article http://www.lvr.com/access_usb_devices_from_linux.htm
  • [13:45:25] <jharvey> I'll check that out too. I've only had the Bone for a couple of days and I am behind the learning curve.
  • [13:46:07] <Ed237> I just bought a black -- was disappointed to find no uarts and not bb compatable sd images -- black is a bit differnet less $$ only $45 and has video
  • [13:46:36] <Ed237> so i poted Ubuntu files for it ater hours of frustration getting all the packages !!
  • [13:47:17] <Ed237> if yo uever get a black try teh ubuntu images i posted @ http://marchdvd.com/bbbk/
  • [13:47:31] <jharvey> Does the black come with the Angstrom disribution like the Bone?
  • [13:47:51] <jharvey> I have thought about changing to Ubuntu on the Bone also.
  • [13:47:52] <Ed237> yes Angstrom and node.js
  • [13:48:13] <Ed237> in not fond of node.js @ all !!! i use ligHTTPD & php5
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  • [13:49:04] <Ed237> The gpio was hidden too much from user space and only tied into node.js -- i wanted to do come C++ and user space gpio like a BBB does so well
  • [13:50:30] <Ed237> gotta run and eat breakfast --- see ya Jharv
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  • [13:51:32] <jharvey> thanks for the help
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  • [15:13:20] <DartVader> i'm confused how the hell to do this with widget library
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  • [15:14:10] <bignick> how to get the angstrom on BB to recognize my Tp-linkwireless adapter?
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  • [15:15:16] <dm8tbr> bignick: check if the kernel module for the chipset is there and if the firmware is there
  • [15:16:09] <bignick> you mean in the lib files in the BB?
  • [15:18:08] <bignick> i downloaded some modules files that were suposed to be for this adapter
  • [15:18:18] <bignick> and ran the configure file
  • [15:18:27] <bignick> but still no recognition
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  • [16:15:25] <harshadura> hi
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  • [16:23:53] <ZubairLK> Hi
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  • [16:28:26] <astropirate> Hello friends
  • [16:28:42] <astropirate> I want to play around with beagleboard
  • [16:28:48] <astropirate> but have no ideas what i want to make :\
  • [16:30:02] <ZubairLK> Do you have an academic project coming up where you can use the beagleboard? That could be easy to start with
  • [16:30:41] <astropirate> ZubairLK: nope
  • [16:31:06] <astropirate> i'm done with acadamia, i want to make something interesting... but don't know yet
  • [16:31:29] <ZubairLK> I think you should start with an idea first.Then use the beagleboard if applicable.
  • [16:31:30] <astropirate> currently i'm thinking of attaching a camera to it and do facial recognation
  • [16:31:47] <astropirate> haha
  • [16:31:49] <astropirate> you are right
  • [16:31:55] <astropirate> but i want to play with this board :D
  • [16:31:57] <ZubairLK> And if you haven't bought one, I'd recommend getting the Beaglebone Black.
  • [16:32:16] <astropirate> aye thats the one I was going to get
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  • [16:33:13] <astropirate> maybe i ca look at lifehacker or soemthign for ideas
  • [16:33:32] <ZubairLK> good luck finding it in stock :)
  • [16:34:03] <astropirate> sold out?!
  • [16:34:35] <ZubairLK> Hmm. if you want to play around. I'd suggest attaching some storage and make a media server like XMBC out of it.
  • [16:35:03] <ZubairLK> that'll get you started somewhere. And if you can keep it live. it'll be a handy item to keep even :)
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  • [16:36:05] <ZubairLK> You'll find it.
  • [16:36:28] <astropirate> that sounds like more of a software project :p more than playing around with the hardware
  • [16:36:35] <astropirate> hm
  • [16:36:52] <astropirate> i need a semi-transparent LCD screen
  • [16:40:04] <ZubairLK> hardware. hmm.. operate that media server using gesture recognition using a camera module. :p
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  • [17:07:11] <kfoltman> Are there any known issues with disconnecting/reconnecting USB devices on Beaglebone Black?
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  • [17:08:53] <kfoltman> (as in, http://pastebin.com/UCCSyx3X )
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  • [18:22:53] <fiola> kfoltman: I think it was yesterday that a dev mentioned here that there were such issues noted in replugging USB drives, and that a likely fix was already made and coming out in next release.
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  • [19:03:48] <kfoltman> just for the record, the issue seems to affect device connection/disconnection in general, including things like HID devices and MIDI interfaces
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  • [20:02:08] <mrpackethead> mmm, thats fast
  • [20:02:23] <mrpackethead> the BCC cape PCB's will be ready on Monday.
  • [20:02:34] <mrpackethead> ka6sox-away: pcbs not far way
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  • [20:28:25] <kfoltman> mrpackethead: the FPGA cape? will it be available as an assembled PCB?
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  • [20:39:41] <mrpackethead> no.
  • [20:39:52] <mrpackethead> kfoltman: it on the pcb.
  • [20:40:19] <mrpackethead> i'm only running them up so we can have a play with them
  • [20:40:27] <mrpackethead> and there are spare pcbs
  • [20:41:02] <mrpackethead> kfoltman: would you like it as a an assemlbed thing?
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  • [20:46:53] <kfoltman> mrpackethead: I certainly wouldn't dare to solder an FPGA with my shaky wooden hands. But, on the other hand, "this is a cool product" vs "I would buy it" vs "I would buy it and learn VHDL or Verilog and do something worthwhile with it" - you know.
  • [20:47:19] <kfoltman> product/project
  • [20:47:37] <mrpackethead> kfoltman: The IC is a TQFP, so its doable.
  • [20:47:45] <mrpackethead> but i can understnad the hesitation
  • [20:47:55] <mrpackethead> the part is $12
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  • [21:01:49] * Russ watches a b-25 fly over
  • [21:03:25] <m_billybob> ah the goog ole mitchell
  • [21:03:36] * mrpackethead watches gooble-de-gook
  • [21:03:40] <m_billybob> good too
  • [21:03:42] <Russ> pretty sure it was 'photo fanny'
  • [21:04:02] <m_billybob> from travis ?
  • [21:04:19] <Russ> chino
  • [21:04:31] * m_billybob was born on travis
  • [21:04:36] <Russ> http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6603465&nseq=3
  • [21:04:41] <m_billybob> yeah been long time since ive been
  • [21:06:07] <m_billybob> wow thats much cleaner than the last one ive seen in person, though last wwii bomber ive sen i think was a liberator
  • [21:06:22] <mrpackethead> this damn serial port
  • [21:06:29] <mrpackethead> its annoying me
  • [21:06:45] <Russ> m_billybob, its one used in a lot of movies, so they keep it looking good
  • [21:07:11] <m_billybob> ah
  • [21:08:05] <m_billybob> liberator I saw i think was in montgomery alabama. it had all the original guns and paint on it
  • [21:08:31] <mrpackethead> what speed woudl it be set to
  • [21:08:48] <m_billybob> but my dad was in the airforce when i ws born and for a while after. me im ex army lol
  • [21:09:28] <m_billybob> but i used to draw all those planes as a kid, my dad would buy me books all the time
  • [21:10:02] * mrpackethead ex civial contractor..
  • [21:10:12] <m_billybob> which serial mrpackethead ?
  • [21:10:18] <m_billybob> the debug header serial ?
  • [21:10:22] <mrpackethead> yup
  • [21:10:38] <m_billybob> 1158000 i think ? /me checks
  • [21:10:39] <mrpackethead> the docs say 115200, 8N!
  • [21:10:47] <m_billybob> ya thats it
  • [21:10:53] <mrpackethead> doe'snt work.
  • [21:11:14] <m_billybob> can you get into file system at all ?
  • [21:11:48] <m_billybob> and whcih distro does it have on it ?
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  • [21:12:07] <m_billybob> to check if . . .
  • [21:12:08] <m_billybob> Add at end of file:
  • [21:12:08] <m_billybob> /etc/inittab
  • [21:12:08] <m_billybob> T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyO0 115200 vt102
  • [21:12:25] <m_billybob> thats for debian, theres different instructions for ububntu and not sure what angstrom needs
  • [21:14:41] <kfoltman> mrpackethead: I'm using 115200 8N1 and it works... do you get line noise or nothing at all?
  • [21:15:12] <mrpackethead> im getting corrupted characters
  • [21:15:22] <mrpackethead> when you restart, you get strings of data
  • [21:15:32] <m_billybob> ah thats common try presssing crtl D
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  • [21:16:52] <m_billybob> someone suggested that on the groups this morning as a possible fix or workaround
  • [21:16:55] <mrpackethead> just occured to me.
  • [21:16:59] <m_billybob> suposed to refresh the terminal i think
  • [21:17:06] <mrpackethead> that this port is TTL level
  • [21:17:33] <mrpackethead> my serial port is RS232
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  • [21:17:50] <kfoltman> mrpackethead: I'm using it with a cheapo USB-to-TTL-RS232 thingy (a bare PCB with USB plug and a bunch of jumper wires at the other end)
  • [21:18:28] <kfoltman> *short* jumper wires
  • [21:20:17] <m_billybob> we only have one FTDI module at mand its only 5v . . need to get a 3.3v before i get to start toying around at the terminal
  • [21:21:48] <kfoltman> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00AFRXKFU/ref=pe_217191_31005151_M3T1_dp_5 this is the one I got (probably a 5V-tolerance 3.3V part of something)
  • [21:21:55] <kfoltman> 5V-tolerant
  • [21:22:23] <kfoltman> and of course I only connected RX, TX and GND
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  • [21:23:06] <m_billybob> ah thats kind of expensive though. is that one of the FTDX or similar modules ?
  • [21:23:16] <m_billybob> im kind of partial to FTDI
  • [21:23:39] <kfoltman> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x UART Bridge / myAVR mySmartUSB light
  • [21:23:41] <mranostay> die!!
  • [21:24:44] <m_billybob> hmm havent heard of em, but no surprise im not an EE so much as software developer
  • [21:25:12] <kfoltman> m_billybob: I don't have much experience with those usb-to-serial chips, apart from using the ftdi part on some arduino clone - and this thingy
  • [21:26:11] <m_billybob> main reason why i like FTDI is my buddy has been an EE for idk maybe 35 years, and he says FTDI drivers *always* work where as some of the others may not
  • [21:26:25] <jmoyerman> +1 FTDI chips just work.
  • [21:27:25] <m_billybob> im kind of like that with PC parts too once i find a brand i know that works always, ill stick with it lol I hate screwing aroudn with stuff that should be workign already
  • [21:28:30] <m_billybob> some of those cheapies on ebay look tempting though at $2-$3 each free shipping
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  • [21:31:11] <kfoltman> m_billybob: depends on if pain(waste of money ) < pain(waste of time)
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  • [21:31:33] <m_billybob> i know a few people who own a few well not in person but from forums
  • [21:31:43] <m_billybob> they seem to be happy with them
  • [21:32:05] <m_billybob> Spirilis there i thin khas a few
  • [21:32:17] <Russ> mranostay, tell us how you really feel
  • [21:32:23] <m_billybob> anyone here been doing device tree work has some experience ?
  • [21:33:26] <m_billybob> I need to get started with device tree, have a few link jadonks and one or two other to start reading. but is there like a manual or anythign for device tree ?
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  • [21:35:36] <kfoltman> m_billybob: you *do* have that one - http://devicetree.org/Device_Tree_Usage ?
  • [21:37:08] <m_billybob> I do now ! thanks :)
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  • [21:37:37] <m_billybob> I know nothign about linux dev, well i take that back i know a bit, but not on this level
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  • [21:38:02] <m_billybob> so like i good and find fdt stuff etc, not sure it that will apply to this or not
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  • [21:38:10] <m_billybob> google*
  • [21:39:26] <m_billybob> be back in a little bit got some outdoor work to do
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  • [22:40:48] <Moult> has anyone controlled a servo / used pwm with the bbb? it seems all the documentation related to it doesn't apply to the bbb. for example, there is no /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux or /sys/class/pwm/. any ideas where these moved to?
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  • [22:52:41] <slug> Moult: do you have a /sys/class/pwm directory at all?
  • [22:52:52] <Moult> slug: no
  • [22:53:05] <slug> Moult: Angstrom ? uname -a ?
  • [22:53:31] <Moult> slug: Linux beaglebone 3.8.6 #1 SMP Sat Apr 13 09:10:52 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux - yes, angstrom
  • [22:53:42] <Moult> slug: i think the kernel directory layouts changed
  • [22:54:40] * mranostay harlem shakes in
  • [22:54:47] <slug> Moult: I'm running 3.8.12, and i have /sys/class/pwm
  • [22:54:51] <kfoltman> Moult: have you tried doing something like: find /sys -name 'pwm*' (I think some of the stuff in the platform directory has been moved)
  • [22:54:57] <Moult> slug: on a bbb?
  • [22:55:02] <slug> Moult: yes
  • [22:55:22] <Moult> kfoltman: i have a /sys/kernel/debug/pwm
  • [22:56:00] <Moult> slug: so perhaps i'm out of date?
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  • [22:56:42] <kfoltman> whatever you do, don't try upgrading angstrom using opkg ;)
  • [22:56:44] <slug> Moult: maybe. which image did you install from?
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  • [22:57:00] <Moult> slug: none, this is what came with the device
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  • [22:57:11] <stlngds> Hey all.
  • [22:57:13] <Moult> slug: i haven't updated anything
  • [22:57:23] <stlngds> Quick question, does the A8 support SSE2?
  • [22:57:32] <slug> Moult: ah, so follow kfoltman advise :) you probably want to try the May image instead first. I had trouble upgrading from the image that came with the device.
  • [22:57:37] <stlngds> Can't find a straight answer anywhere.
  • [22:57:54] <kfoltman> stlngds: no, it has NEON, SSE2 = intel instruction set, not ARM :O
  • [22:57:57] <slug> stlngds: i thought ARM uses NEON
  • [22:57:58] <Moult> kfoltman: ok, thanks for the warning
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  • [22:58:06] <stlngds> Ah, alrighty.
  • [22:58:10] <Moult> slug: is there a guide somewhere?
  • [22:58:10] <stlngds> Thanks guys.
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  • [22:58:19] <slug> Moult: to flash a new image?
  • [22:58:19] <Moult> slug: if yours is stable, i'd get your version
  • [22:59:06] <Moult> slug: yes.
  • [22:59:20] <slug> Moult: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images 2013-05.08
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  • [23:00:15] <slug> Moult: http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started
  • [23:00:21] <kfoltman> Moult: be warned - you need a 4GB microSD card
  • [23:00:37] <slug> kfoltman: i used a 8GB with no trouble
  • [23:00:47] <slug> kfoltman: do you mean at least 4GB ?
  • [23:00:48] <Moult> kfoltman: ugh, don't have any microsd card.
  • [23:00:48] <Russ> I have a 64MB one, will that work?
  • [23:00:51] <kfoltman> ok, 4GB+, I had a 2GB and couldn't use it :)
  • [23:01:10] <Moult> slug: ok, downloading now
  • [23:01:41] <kfoltman> Russ: if you want to use some buildroot-generated contraption instead of their angstrom image, then why not :P
  • [23:01:58] <Russ> #exactsteps
  • [23:03:06] <mranostay> +1
  • [23:03:45] <mranostay> wonders what the average commute time is a monday
  • [23:03:51] <Moult> slug: ok, thanks very much. i'm going to pop out and buy a microsd card. back in a bit
  • [23:03:59] <Russ> mranostay, depends, do you have to cross a bridge?
  • [23:05:16] <mranostay> no
  • [23:05:27] <Russ> then you should be able to make it there
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  • [23:08:08] <mranostay> i will take MAX at somepoint
  • [23:08:22] <mranostay> first city my car is a pain
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  • [23:08:43] <mranostay> but 26 is 4 blocks away
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  • [23:21:35] <Moult> slug: writing the image to sd now
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  • [23:26:04] <BecauseRacecar> Hi there
  • [23:26:18] <BecauseRacecar> has anyone here successfully set up android on a BBB?
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  • [23:31:03] <Moult> slug: "If using BeagleBone Black and the image is meant to program your on-board eMMC, you'll need to wait while the programming occurs. " <-- do you know if that image does that?
  • [23:33:42] <BecauseRacecar> i have no idea...
  • [23:38:23] * mranostay takes a shot
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  • [23:50:45] <slug> Moult: what do you mean?
  • [23:51:07] <Moult> slug: wanted to know whether or not i'd have to wait up to 45 minutes
  • [23:51:16] <slug> Moult: yeah
  • [23:51:36] <Moult> slug: i would?
  • [23:51:44] <Moult> slug: is there a way to check the progress of the flash?
  • [23:51:47] <slug> Moult: power down the bbb, put the sd card into the slot, press the button right above it and apply power at the same time.
  • [23:52:01] <slug> Moult: yes, do you have a serial-usb cable?
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  • [23:52:14] <Moult> slug: it's connected via usb right now. don't know if it's serialusb
  • [23:52:30] <Moult> slug: and i did the powerdown, sdcard insert, button + power at the same time thing
  • [23:52:30] <Russ> the lights all turn on when its done
  • [23:52:31] <slug> Moult: no, you would need to connect to the serial port on the board
  • [23:52:52] <Moult> slug: i'm not holding the button now though. the lights are flashing doing stuff
  • [23:53:00] <slug> Moult: the bbb doesn't emulate a serial port through the usb port afaik.
  • [23:53:00] <Moult> Russ: yes, but looking for a way to measure progress
  • [23:53:24] <slug> Moult: yes, when it's done you will have all or maybe 3 of the leds full lit.
  • [23:54:24] <Russ> Moult, do it once and time it
  • [23:54:34] <Russ> Moult, then, use time elapsed to measure progress
  • [23:54:42] <Moult> Russ: eh ok
  • [23:54:57] <Moult> i believe it's been 10 minutes already
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  • [23:58:13] <slug> Moult: i did another opkg upgrade and now running kernel 3.8.13
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  • [23:58:59] <Zeta> hi