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[00:13:49] <mranostay> heh
[00:15:02] <Crofton> they need to list pandaborad also
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[00:29:13] <gabrbedd> Russ: oops!
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[00:32:27] <Russ> ?
[00:33:36] * Russ finally notices the '[RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency' thread
[00:34:31] <mranostay> where are the trolls trollingly trolling now?
[00:35:11] <gabrbedd> Russ: omap5 board was never released, and it was not going to be called "eagle" (although that name was considered)
[00:35:12] <Russ> I don't know about you guys, but I'll be checking our 'Your New ARM SoC Linux Support Checklist!!!1!1eleven'
[00:35:49] <Russ> gabrbedd, I'm thinking the whole eagleboard thing was just an elaborate hoax :p
[00:36:28] <emeb> Russ: mdp: graupel falling here in Mesa now too. Time to git right with god.
[00:38:05] <gabrbedd> Russ: kind of like omap5 :-p
[00:38:15] <mranostay> mdp: joel_: denix: ok i think you guys need to convince the channel which of your talks is the best to attend :P
[00:38:40] <mranostay> mru: or should split and troll one talk each?
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[00:40:58] <mranostay> Russ|mobile: !!
[00:41:38] <Russ|mobile> Conference WiFi
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[00:59:02] <mrpackethead> hobbbbbiiiit.
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[01:12:00] <mdp> mranostay, if I were choosing a talk, I would go to Joel's
[01:12:19] <mdp> it's been proposed that maybe I can set the BoF in motion and just leave and go watch Joel
[01:12:31] <mdp> s/Joel/joel_/
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[01:13:22] <mdp> emeb: :)
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[03:37:19] <mrpackethead> whats up
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[03:42:02] <thurbad> ugh.. been in deadlock hell for a couple of days.. think I finally dug out
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[05:14:11] <mranostay> trolls
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[05:33:51] <keatont> hi
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[07:18:29] <mranostay> hi there
[07:18:44] <emeb_mac> ho there
[07:19:02] <mranostay> beer!!!!
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[07:35:26] <LetoThe2nd> skal.
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[07:39:20] <KotH> yo there
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[07:57:56] <scrts> hmm, still struggling with UART2 RTSn/CTSn. I've enabled stty -F /dev/ttyO2 crtscts and now I see that it waits until CTSn signal is 0. However I RTSn doesn't work :/
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[08:36:56] <av500> minnow all the tings!
[08:37:20] <LetoThe2nd> mirror all the tarballs
[08:37:28] <dm8tbr> announced yet?
[08:39:32] <LetoThe2nd> whats wrong with the world, why are they all hyping some atom thing?
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[08:40:13] <XorA> morning
[08:40:45] <XorA> until Mr Higgs is found the world is still built on atoms :-D
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[08:44:38] <LetoThe2nd> XorA: Higgs? CSO of Intel?
[08:45:09] * dm8tbr throws a large hadron at LetoThe2nd
[08:45:21] * LetoThe2nd collides
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[08:45:35] * XorA watches the blackhole consume the universe
[08:45:41] <LetoThe2nd> mru: ^^^^ 26+26 :)
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[08:47:05] <av500> everything-killer: http://www.minnowboard.org/
[08:48:26] <dm8tbr> ah it went public
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[08:48:51] <av500> indeed
[08:49:06] <av500> dont you have Linus' minder in your g+?
[08:49:19] <dm8tbr> hum?
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[08:50:00] <av500> the guy that carts him around the world and puts him either on a stage or in a diving suit
[08:50:18] <dm8tbr> um, no?
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[08:51:48] <Jacmet> dm8tbr: Dirk Hohndel
[08:51:59] <dm8tbr> yeah, found him on g+ by now
[08:52:42] <dm8tbr> so this is essentially a low cost FRI2?
[08:52:59] <vij> Hi , Am trying to get the ADC working on the Beaglebone with the 3.2.0 kernel picked up from TIPSP05.06.00.0
[08:53:27] <vij> have followed the steps mentioned here http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_ADC_Driver%27s_Guide
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[08:54:08] <vij> but when i check the list of devices here ls -al /sys/bus/iio/devices
[08:54:15] <vij> nothing is lised out
[08:54:24] <vij> Am i missing anything?
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[09:06:22] <av500> dm8tbr: its an ATOM beagle
[09:06:35] <av500> dm8tbr: afaik, cco is making it
[09:08:57] <av500> dm8tbr: Linus' minder did not get the fish reference, being a diver and such....
[09:09:00] <Jacmet> with icky powervr gpu
[09:09:22] <dm8tbr> av500: it looks exactly like http://uk.kontron.com/products/systems+and+platforms/m2m/m2m+smart+services+developer+kit.html from the chipset side of things
[09:09:25] <Jacmet> ... like the beagles ;)
[09:12:43] <dm8tbr> this board has SATA exposed though, which is nice, but not a must
[09:12:55] <av500> dm8tbr: it is a must for KotH
[09:12:57] <LetoThe2nd> total exposure!
[09:13:19] <av500> dm8tbr: you are totally off, one is E620, the other E640 :)
[09:13:59] <av500> dm8tbr: fun fact, when we did the A9, it was done by our HW team with 0 SW involvement
[09:14:00] * dm8tbr throws away his FRI2 then
[09:14:15] <av500> the intel docs were so good that you basically follow them and get a working x86 desing
[09:14:20] * dm8tbr demands a minnowboard instead
[09:14:33] <dm8tbr> oh _that_ A9
[09:14:41] <av500> yes
[09:14:56] <LetoThe2nd> A9 m??nchen n??rnberg?
[09:15:00] <av500> yes
[09:15:03] <dm8tbr> just that then Microsoft went and ruined the party with Vista...
[09:15:17] <av500> win7 I think
[09:15:29] <av500> or maybe it was vista
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[09:15:38] <dm8tbr> I know people were installing XP and happy
[09:15:43] <av500> yes
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[09:15:55] <av500> vista took 1GHZ out of the 1.2GHz available
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[09:16:59] <av500> only going to atom with HT made it usable
[09:17:22] <dm8tbr> hmm, spec pdf mentions pci express, but I don't see anything. is it on the Lure connector?
[09:17:58] <av500> yes
[09:18:01] <av500> http://www.minnowboard.org/?page_id=8
[09:18:37] <av500> it has no HDMI :(
[09:18:47] <dm8tbr> it's got DVI
[09:19:03] <av500> yes
[09:19:10] <av500> not good for media player box
[09:19:17] <av500> analog audio only
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[09:19:23] <dm8tbr> ah
[09:19:24] <av500> no ac3 passthru on hdmi
[09:19:48] <av500> but then the $28 A10 desings dont to AC3 either
[09:19:53] <av500> but at least they have hdmi
[09:20:53] <av500> hmm, no sata per se
[09:20:56] <av500> only per lure
[09:21:21] <dm8tbr> I see a SATA connector on the bottom side of the board
[09:21:29] <dm8tbr> actually it's the top...
[09:21:34] <dm8tbr> CPU is on the bottom
[09:22:35] <av500> hmm
[09:22:55] <dm8tbr> J7
[09:23:22] <av500> ah ok
[09:23:29] <av500> block diagram does not show it
[09:23:44] <av500> hmm, there is HD audio there
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[09:30:42] <Vij> Him
[09:30:46] <Vij> I've included the ADC driver support and built the kernel under TI PSP relase 05.06.00.00 as per the following Wiki page : http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_ADC_Driver%27s_Guide ; When the BeagleBone is booted with this kernel, Am not able to list out the IIO device.Below is the snapshot on the serial console: root@beaglebone:/sys/bus/iio/devices# ls -al total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 2000 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root
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[09:36:03] <av500> TI PSP relase 05.06.00.00 is supported by TI
[09:38:45] <Vij> yeah Am using the same kernel
[09:39:39] <Vij> but not able to list out the devices under "/sys/bus/iio/devices"
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[09:41:15] <exosyst> When's the Beaglebone black coming out?
[09:41:56] <av500> soon
[09:42:05] <exosyst> Is there a detailed spec sheet for it available yet?
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[09:45:09] <XorA> Gothbone!
[09:47:59] <exosyst> Ahhaah. Found it :D
[09:52:04] <mrpackethead> grrrh.!
[09:52:13] <mrpackethead> bind is a dog.
[09:52:31] <XorA> yup
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[10:03:25] <mrpackethead> it resolves names ok
[10:03:37] <mrpackethead> but i cna't get it to resolve a local host
[10:03:43] <mrpackethead> sorry local zone file
[10:04:43] <KotH> let me guess, you forgot to update the serial number and reload the zone?
[10:05:37] <mrpackethead> KotH:
[10:05:38] <mrpackethead> nup
[10:06:15] <mrpackethead> but i got one for you
[10:06:21] <mrpackethead> since you are swiss
[10:06:30] <mrpackethead> Swiss cheese has holes
[10:06:41] <KotH> some do, yes
[10:07:11] <mrpackethead> the MORE holes you have, the LESS chesse you have
[10:07:12] <mrpackethead> the MORE cheese you have, the MORE holes you have
[10:07:12] <mrpackethead> Thus, the MORE cheese you have, the LESS cheese you have
[10:07:44] * KotH pats mrpackethead on his head
[10:07:58] <KotH> here, have a nickel and buy yourself some real cheese
[10:08:08] <mrpackethead> nickels no good here
[10:08:17] <mrpackethead> dont' wnat that funny greenback coinage
[10:08:25] <mrpackethead> its almost as useful as bitcoin
[10:08:40] <KotH> you dont read enough dilbert
[10:08:43] <av500> bitcoin you can use to buy drugs
[10:08:48] <av500> very useful
[10:08:53] <XorA> av500: now Im interested :-D
[10:09:22] <KotH> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-06-24/
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[10:14:14] <mrpackethead> trying to run a network without a dns server is hard
[10:14:16] <mrpackethead> :-(
[10:14:27] <av500> there is always /etc/hosts
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[10:14:41] <av500> dont you have all the needed computers in there?
[10:14:55] <mrpackethead> there is
[10:15:05] <mrpackethead> but then you need to copy it to all your machines
[10:15:12] <mrpackethead> it does'nt scale
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[10:15:38] <KotH> what's your prob in setting up a dns server?
[10:15:45] <mrpackethead> i'm not sure
[10:15:48] <mrpackethead> thats the bizzare bit
[10:15:52] <KotH> o_0
[10:15:53] <mrpackethead> i've done this several times before
[10:16:05] <mrpackethead> my configuraiton no doubt is not quite riht
[10:16:07] <KotH> are you using some weird distro that doesnt have a useable default config?
[10:16:29] <mrpackethead> its resolving names happily from ---> out there
[10:16:40] <mrpackethead> its the local zone files its ignoring
[10:17:22] <exosyst> What's the recommended kernel for the beaglebone these days? is 3.8 in a fairly fit state?
[10:17:30] <KotH> did you enable any of the security features (like split view, disalow recursion, acls,...)?
[10:17:44] <mrpackethead> no.
[10:17:55] <KotH> have you checked the acls?
[10:18:05] <KotH> what do the logs say?
[10:18:08] <KotH> what does dig say?
[10:18:34] <mrpackethead> digs saying its failing
[10:18:55] <mrpackethead> ;; global options: +cmd
[10:18:55] <mrpackethead> ;; Got answer:
[10:18:56] <mrpackethead> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 42762
[10:18:57] <mrpackethead> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[10:19:57] <KotH> logs?
[10:22:18] <mrpackethead> not turned on by default
[10:22:20] <mrpackethead> grr.
[10:22:41] <KotH> what weird distro are you using?
[10:22:52] <mrpackethead> debian squeeze
[10:22:54] <mrpackethead> that werid one
[10:23:00] <KotH> eh..
[10:23:05] <KotH> logs are turned on by default
[10:23:25] <KotH> and this reaction begs the question: why didnt you check the logs before?
[10:23:48] <mrpackethead> becase i was looking for more cheese but only found holes
[10:25:16] <mrpackethead> gah.
[10:25:21] <mrpackethead> will try something new
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[10:30:57] <mrpackethead> tommorrow
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[10:33:15] <jackmitchell> exosyst: I use 3.8 without issues, from the beagleboard github page (aka 3.8 + patches)
[10:33:36] <jackmitchell> :q
[10:34:05] <exosyst> No issues with USB?
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[10:34:22] <jackmitchell> exosyst: I don't use USB
[10:34:34] <jackmitchell> so I can't comment
[10:34:47] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Ah, that's the thing. We use USB rocket launchers for our courses and I don't want to chance it breaking :(
[10:34:56] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Have you done any testing?
[10:35:12] <jackmitchell> well, I use it for developing our commerical software
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[10:35:54] <jackmitchell> it seems ok, no major issues so far
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[10:36:36] <exosyst> OK cheers i'll give it a go.
[10:38:06] <exosyst> Did you grab the u-boot tree from somewhere too? I'm guessing going this route I'm better off keeping Yocto for generating my packages/rootFS and then keeping the kernel/uboot in sync from Beaglebone.org
[10:38:15] <exosyst> jackmitchell, , ^
[10:38:33] <jackmitchell> exosyst: I just use u-boot master and rebuild every so often
[10:38:55] <exosyst> jackmitchell, No bone/TI patches?
[10:39:12] <jackmitchell> exosyst: the above is what I do at the moment, then when meta-beagleboard is ready I will move over to that
[10:39:30] <jackmitchell> exosyst: I don't believe you need any for the latest u-boot
[10:39:53] <Jacmet> "Still, the Tizen 2.0 release offers a detailed changelog (as an ODS spreadsheet file)" <- heh
[10:40:00] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Oh ok, just make am335x_config && make for u-boot master then?
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[10:40:48] <jackmitchell> exosyst: I'm not sure, I haven't built it for a while; if you struggle I can send my binary over
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[10:41:28] <exosyst> I'll see how I get on... I think I have backups :D
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[10:46:55] <exosyst> I wish that patch.sh did a shallow checkout of the kernel... yeesh!
[10:47:19] <jackmitchell> yeah; it's a big one
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[10:55:07] <exosyst> especially at a blistering 142KiB/s
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[11:21:48] <KotH> exosyst: be glad you aren't on dial up with a 14.4 modem :)
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[11:29:51] <zenzi1982> ciao!
[11:29:58] <zenzi1982> !list
[11:29:58] <DevBot> zenzi1982: Admin, Bugzilla, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Karma, MeetBot, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Owner, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Seen, and User
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[11:30:37] <KotH> lol
[11:30:48] <KotH> someone mistook freenode for rizon
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[11:42:01] <exosyst> crap - i forgot to build my meta-toolchain
[11:42:11] <exosyst> this could take me a while
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[12:42:31] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Saw your email on the list - I had to add BBMASK ?= ".*/meta-ti/recipes-(misc|bsp/formfactor)/" to make things work
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[12:56:59] <jackmitchell> exosyst: yes, they used to have it in the README but I don't know where it's gotten to
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[12:57:15] <av500> omg-there-is-almost-nothing-left-to-kill-killer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/21/wandboard-dual-unboxing-and-quick-start-guide
[12:58:24] <jackmitchell> av500: the wandboard is an exciting piece of kit
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[13:00:10] <woglinde> gm av500
[13:00:20] <av500> I have somewhat become insensitive to pieces of kit
[13:01:13] <jackmitchell> av500: do you write the cnx blog or just frequent it?
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[13:06:02] <av500> I follow the RSS feed
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[13:09:34] <Jacmet> nice touch with a sata connector on a duallite board :P
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[13:21:05] <KotH> av500: and it even has SATA! ;)
[13:21:12] <av500> !!!!!!11!!!!
[13:22:38] <Jacmet> KotH: .. connector :P
[13:26:25] <KotH> Jacmet: so what? i can still plug a HD in... sure it wont work, but who cares? ;)
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[13:29:15] <av500> KotH: yes, like SATA powered coffee warmer
[13:29:41] <KotH> av500: i'm sure they already exist somewhere in china
[13:30:10] <av500> KotH: just google for it
[13:30:22] <av500> some bot in china will setup a product page for it in seconds
[13:30:40] <av500> I think a lot of stuff from there is due to mistyped google searches
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[13:34:39] <KotH> i just typed it into alibaba
[13:34:46] <KotH> lets see how long it takes them to start shipping
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[13:39:06] <av500> :)
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[13:39:17] <av500> maybe you need to add more features
[13:39:23] <av500> like FM radio
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[13:39:58] <ogra_> FM ? pfft use AM ... gets way more stations
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[13:46:34] <KotH> ogra_: not in any developed country
[13:46:54] <ogra_> like switzerland ?
[13:47:04] <ogra_> thats your excuse for the mountains, eh ?
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[13:49:09] <KotH> a landscape is like a girl: it's nicer if she has curves :)
[13:49:24] <av500> but not jagged ridges
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[13:50:35] <KotH> av500: some like their girls on the skinny side ;)
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[13:57:10] <mdp> hrm, still people here
[13:57:23] <mdp> I thought everybody would have left for #minnow by now
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[14:06:24] <av500> mdp: we need to spread the word here
[14:11:49] <mdp> then mass exodus!
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[14:11:58] * mdp places beagle boards on ebay
[14:12:40] <KotH> mdp: send it overhere
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[14:18:34] <thurbad> what's in #minnow?
[14:18:53] <KotH> the other channel
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[14:22:01] <mdp> KotH: ;)
[14:22:42] <thurbad> pbbt
[14:24:40] <KotH> mdp: could you please tell the other Ti that changing the clock core in the newer MSP430 was not a nice thing to do
[14:24:58] <KotH> mdp: now i have to revwrite half of our msp430 framework ^^'
[14:30:05] <Jacmet> mdp: hi
[14:31:20] <Jacmet> mdp: spl more-or-less works on ti816x now
[14:32:08] <mdp> Jacmet: ok, cool. I was on holiday until yesterday..so haven't been able to follow up on the u-boot patches.
[14:32:21] <Jacmet> mdp: no problem, I was away last week as well
[14:32:35] <mdp> Jacmet: with the usual conf stuff, it looks like I'll be away from serious work until monday
[14:33:17] <mdp> Jacmet: I'm finding that there are others crawling out of the woodwork looking for upstream ti81xx support now..private mails..being accosted at elc
[14:34:28] <Jacmet> mdp: Great. I've also been talking to people at Adeneo
[14:34:51] <Jacmet> mdp: It would be good to align a bit
[14:35:20] <mdp> I'm not sure how many of these people I've run into are wanting to contribute..but we'll see as they go.
[14:35:33] <Jacmet> mdp: I could imagine other people also being interested in a way out from the evil 2.6.37 vendor tree ;)
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[14:36:03] <mdp> I try to make clear that my focus is on some specific ti8148 features..and I mentioned you were planning to do 816x work so they should watch the list traffic ;)
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[14:36:29] <Jacmet> mdp: ok, cool
[14:36:40] <mdp> Jacmet: yeah???one guy quickly realized that he might be in trouble as he needs the syslink gunk
[14:37:20] <mdp> you know, doesn't want to start a product on 2.6.37 now???but then, if you need all that working stack stuff TI produces...
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[14:39:09] <Jacmet> mdp: yeah, tell me about it. Seems like I won't be needing any of the hdvicp2/dsp stuff before the end of the year, so hopefully things looks better by then
[14:39:14] <Jacmet> (always the optimist)
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[14:40:27] <mdp> the ne/ce work in a nuclear silo is all I know
[14:40:37] <mdp> the rest of us seem to be on our own
[14:40:48] <mdp> s/work/people work/
[14:41:07] <exosyst> I'm trying to build uboot master for the am335x_evm, anyone know why there's linker flag issues?
[14:41:15] <Jacmet> mdp: I forwarded Kevin's mainline slides to our TI FAE ;)
[14:41:17] <exosyst> arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld.bfd: unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1'
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[14:42:14] <mdp> Jacmet: consider that Kevin's odyssey was purely in Sitara-land.
[14:42:33] <mdp> Jacmet: that took a *long* calendar time to get done :(
[14:43:29] <Jacmet> mdp: well, it's always a good opportunity to point out that we want mainline support
[14:43:56] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Did you build uboot with the poky toolchain?
[14:44:29] <mdp> yep, one thing he doesn't cover is that we used documented customer losses/wins in Sitara too???showed them lost/gained revenue for parts without upstream and with.
[14:44:54] <Jacmet> mdp: ahh, I didn't know that
[14:44:57] <mdp> Jacmet: so customers have to hammer the supplier with the reqmts for anything to change
[14:45:27] <mdp> Jacmet: some abstract "this is the right thing to do" has no hope of succeeding.
[14:45:31] <Jacmet> mdp: which is what I'm trying to do. Not that I expect big impact, but you can always try
[14:45:42] <mdp> every bit helps
[14:45:52] <mdp> I'm afraid on those parts that most people don't care
[14:46:05] <mdp> they get their vertical s/w drop and go
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[14:46:49] <KotH> mdp: huh? you've still a hard time getting that into markedroids heads?
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[14:47:11] <mdp> no no, different TI
[14:47:16] <KotH> ah..
[14:47:18] <KotH> ok
[14:47:44] * KotH wonders how many TIs are out there
[14:48:07] <Jacmet> "this is not the TI you are looking for"
[14:48:09] <mdp> Legion, for we are many.
[14:48:35] <exosyst> What version of u-boot (with no patches) are we using?
[14:48:49] <exosyst> master doesn't build due to bad flags
[14:49:15] <mdp> odd, it did last week
[14:49:37] <Jacmet> exosyst: I believe it still does here. Did a few days ago atleast
[14:50:39] <exosyst> Jacmet, I can't get master to build using the poky toolchain - bad flags etc. I would prefer to not have to patch against older versions if there's a known working branch of upstream u-boot
[14:51:31] <Jacmet> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux- am335x_evm_config
[14:51:33] <Jacmet> Configuring for am335x_evm - Board: am335x_evm, Options: SERIAL1,CONS_INDEX=1
[14:51:39] <Jacmet> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux- -s -j4
[14:51:48] <Jacmet> Image Name: U-Boot 2013.01-00328-g47104c3 fo
[14:51:52] <Jacmet> seems to work ok
[14:52:03] <scrts> http://beagleboard.org/unzipped/
[14:52:03] <scrts> nice
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[14:53:49] <Jacmet> exosyst: not with a poky toolchain though
[14:54:11] <exosyst> http://pastebin.com/18NU607C Jacmet
[14:54:54] <exosyst> Jacmet, I wanted to keep the toolchain consistent with the Poky rootfs/kernel and u-boot but I managed to build the kernel just fine using it
[14:55:09] <Jacmet> exosyst: sorry, don't know anything about poky
[14:55:19] <exosyst> Jacmet, I'm working with the 3.8 kernel and figured I better use the latest and greatest u-boot too
[14:56:12] * mdp successfully adds "hootenanny" into slides
[14:56:23] <Jacmet> exosyst: yes, that might good
[14:57:20] <exosyst> Jacmet, it would be... if it worked. The fact there's missing files in the upstream v2013-01-01 doesn't bode well :(
[14:59:18] <Jacmet> exosyst: what files? u-boot v2013.01 builds ok here
[14:59:25] <Jacmet> Image Name: U-Boot 2013.01 for am335x board
[14:59:25] <Jacmet> Created: Thu Feb 21 15:59:05 2013
[15:00:53] <exosyst> Jacmet, yeah, but not with the poky toolchain - what happens if you run arm-<whatever you have>-linux-ld.bfd -Wl
[15:01:30] <jackmitchell> exosyst: I can confirm it's knackered with the oecore toolchain
[15:01:45] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Ah good - it's not just me :D
[15:01:59] <exosyst> jackmitchell, wait.. no that thing that's the opposite of good. Dammit!
[15:02:30] <jackmitchell> exosyst: the ldflags set in the environment file are weird
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[15:04:44] <exosyst> jackmitchell, Yeah, it sets flags for $(LD) that the bfd version doesn't understand...
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[15:05:17] <exosyst> So that's a poky bug by my reckoning... who to poke who to poke... hmm
[15:05:28] <jackmitchell> oe-core mailing list, or yocto bugzilla
[15:05:46] <jackmitchell> exosyst: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/
[15:06:53] <jackmitchell> the sdk is a little bit of a mess in my opinion, it's slowly improving though
[15:07:15] <exosyst> urgh - *another* bugzilla account. A single signon for bugzilla would be awesome
[15:07:40] <exosyst> I will pay ??200 to whoever implements it (I want gnome, redhat and Yocto compat!)
[15:07:57] <dm8tbr> it does LDAP already
[15:08:18] <dm8tbr> and I've seen installations that used SSO
[15:08:48] <jackmitchell> exosyst: facebook login?
[15:08:52] <jackmitchell> ;)
[15:09:07] <exosyst> dm8tbr that's good to know. And no, FB login would cause me to just abandon the OSS world I think.
[15:09:20] <exosyst> The defining Jumping the Shark moment
[15:11:05] <biot> so who would you trust with an account for all your open source bugzilla etc logins?
[15:11:42] <jackmitchell> OpenID?
[15:15:41] <jackmitchell> I like how TI has a specific Singlecore Processor Solutions
[15:15:57] <jackmitchell> s/Solutions/Communications
[15:21:11] <exosyst> yeah, openID would be fine
[15:21:23] <exosyst> I have no issues with that :D
[15:21:33] <exosyst> bug filed:: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3920
[15:21:34] <DevBot> Bug 3920: was not found.
[15:22:15] <exosyst> Why must you lie DevBot?
[15:23:30] <ka6sox> I don't think it is capable of lying, it just runs programmes.
[15:24:40] <KotH> programs can lie
[15:25:30] <KotH> or at least run into the wrong direction
[15:25:48] <ka6sox> KotH, you have to prove Intent.
[15:27:33] <KotH> the intent is visible in the comments
[15:27:34] <mranostay> morning
[15:27:43] <KotH> hau di mranostay
[15:31:32] <woglinde> re
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[15:38:29] <mranostay> KotH: how is in the land of chocolate and money laundering?
[15:40:21] <KotH> quite good
[15:40:25] <exosyst> SOAB Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05).
[15:40:50] <KotH> mranostay: got my monthly package of 10kg chocolate and another bar of gold
[15:40:50] <exosyst> I hate patchsets
[15:42:11] <jacekowski> belgium?
[15:42:18] <jacekowski> or switzerland?
[15:44:40] <exosyst> Is there any rhyme nor reason why the machine ID should be different for u-boot and TIs kernel?
[15:48:16] <KotH> jacekowski: belgium doesnt have good chocolate... at least i have not yet found anything there i'd call good
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[15:59:09] <thurbad> exosyst: the machine id depends on what hardware was built for
[15:59:22] <thurbad> you want them to match obviously
[15:59:39] <thurbad> if one doesn't match it's because it's not for your hardware
[16:00:04] <exosyst> thurbad, I'm surprised the kernel wants 0xffffffff for flattened device tree... that seems wrong (and would imply something wrong with the 3.8 beaglebone patchset)
[16:06:30] <exosyst> HE'S DONE IT
[16:06:32] <exosyst> booyah
[16:07:12] <exosyst> The wiki is wrong :(
[16:11:32] <woglinde> tell news
[16:11:47] <KotH> a bag of rice fell down in china
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[16:13:46] <thurbad> wikis are great when updated with accurate information... for about a couple of hours :/
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[16:15:37] <exosyst> yeah, that's the case. I opened an issue on the github instead. If it gets fixed, it helps everyone. If not, at least it'll appear in the googles
[16:17:21] <exosyst> You know what i LOVE?... when you reboot a beaglebone with an ext4 formatted partition and it gives you a nice sexy oops from the kernel
[16:17:47] <exosyst> [ 61.514082] (NULL device *): gadget not registered.
[16:17:47] <exosyst> [ 61.520497] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 7665645
[16:17:47] <exosyst> 7
[16:17:47] <exosyst> - no shit!
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[16:23:29] <mranostay> heh
[16:24:27] <mranostay> how is that ext4 related?
[16:25:57] <exosyst> mranostay, It was the first bit of output... but actually... It's really not. Culprit is a call to dsps_musb_exit
[16:28:23] <exosyst> Which makes me think it's to do with the USB stack... possbily something broken in musb_dsps.c
[16:30:44] <exosyst> yup - pretty sure it's a bug when calling usb_put_phy on a device that's been cleared elsewhere.
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[16:33:45] <woglinde> musb again
[16:33:48] <woglinde> lalalalaaala
[16:36:30] <emeb> moose-bee? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n71MiUoqS0U/TL7_mquC8WI/AAAAAAAACyc/bWNgit3aWlg/s320/Bumblebee+moose1.jpg
[16:37:46] <exosyst> that's beautiful emeb. Draw it yourself? :D
[16:37:58] <exosyst> And yea, musb... why, who can I moan to?
[16:38:55] <woglinde> the other other other ti
[16:38:57] <woglinde> hahahhahaa
[16:38:58] <emeb> exosyst: har. this is the interweb - nothing original.
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[16:44:47] <exosyst> oh dear - is musb a known place for issues?
[16:45:03] <exosyst> On the plus side, I prefer being able to open GitHub issues https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/issues/26
[16:46:21] <av500> lol
[16:48:06] <exosyst> on the flip side - I'm chuffed I managed to get yocto/poky to make a rootfs and toolchain, then used that to get uboot and the kernel built (filing bugs as I go!) and then deployed it. Almost feels like it wasn't a wasted day
[16:53:22] <woglinde> use release branches maybee
[16:53:52] <exosyst> I thought that 3.8 was pretty much good to go - at least in as good a state as 3.2
[16:54:20] <woglinde> I meant for poky
[16:54:24] <woglinde> and angstroem
[16:54:30] <exosyst> poky was done from danny
[16:54:35] <woglinde> ah okay
[16:54:45] <exosyst> still buggy :-/
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[17:15:06] <gabrbedd> Russ: Did you say that you had 3.8+dt booting with a beagleboard (not -bone) ?
[17:15:17] * gabrbedd has 3.2 booting and is now trying to get back to 3.8
[17:15:36] <gabrbedd> koen: the angstrom stuff is really nice, btw. Thanks. :-)
[17:15:42] <Russ> xm
[17:16:32] <gabrbedd> Russ: were you using git://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git ?
[17:16:47] <Russ> no, I was using mainline
[17:17:09] <Russ> not to say that the branch koen keeps wouldn't be a better choice
[17:17:18] <gabrbedd> Russ: vanilla? no special patches?
[17:17:32] <mranostay> mru: skipping keynote?
[17:17:37] <mru> no
[17:18:32] <Russ> no special patches
[17:18:56] <gabrbedd> Russ: did you use the omap2plus_defconfig ?
[17:19:08] <Russ> yes
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[17:19:13] <gabrbedd> (sorry for all the questions, I know you're at the conf)
[17:19:16] <gabrbedd> Russ: Thanks!
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[17:20:00] <gabrbedd> Russ: oh yeah... what linux distro did you use? angstrom?
[17:20:48] <Russ> Doesn't really matter if you aren't mounting the mmc, does it?
[17:21:30] <gabrbedd> Russ: but I do plan to mount the mmc.
[17:22:16] <gabrbedd> Russ: so... you had your root fs in the initrd?
[17:22:33] <Russ> no, on the mmc
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[17:37:06] <gabrbedd> Russ: thanks... that worked. :-)
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[18:36:20] <mranostay> ds2: [[
[18:36:40] <mru> ][
[18:38:02] <dm8tbr> <{[(
[18:39:09] <woglinde> fish
[18:39:33] <mranostay> )]}>
[18:40:09] <panto> >-=)
[18:41:20] <mranostay> lets play spot the balds in the front of the room
[18:41:44] * mru spots prpplague
[18:41:58] <mranostay> you in here?
[18:42:00] <dm8tbr> ???
[18:42:17] <mru> I'm here, no idea if you are
[18:42:46] <mranostay> BoF?
[18:42:49] <dm8tbr> so, what's the word about the fishboard?
[18:42:51] <mru> ack
[18:43:03] <mru> dm8tbr: it's on animalboard.org
[18:43:11] <dm8tbr> :)
[18:43:37] <dm8tbr> and at ELC?
[18:44:04] <mru> there were some on display yesterday
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[18:45:31] <dm8tbr> no giveaways or 'register here for one'? :)
[18:45:38] <dm8tbr> like with the FRI2
[18:46:06] <mru> it's not in production yet
[18:46:26] <dm8tbr> FRI2 took 11 months to ship too ;)
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[18:47:36] <mranostay> haven't done #$@#$ with it
[18:49:19] <calculus> koen-: to remind you, http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/core/ipk/eglibc/ has no packages further down
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[18:59:45] <dm8tbr> mranostay: I've started playing with the 802.15.4 part in it. still need to get the userspace bits and maybe update the kernel bits
[19:02:10] <mranostay> dm8tbr: only useful part of that imho
[19:03:21] <mrpackethead> doh.
[19:04:59] <mranostay> love how sched makes you interested in your own talk by default :)
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[19:14:22] <mrpackethead> so, how good is the new beagle going to be
[19:14:24] <mrpackethead> lower cost
[19:14:28] <mrpackethead> higher memroy
[19:14:33] <mrpackethead> onboard eMMC
[19:14:56] * dm8tbr likes the DVI thing
[19:15:19] <mrpackethead> i just wished it had audio in as well as audio out
[19:15:45] <panto> it's HDMI
[19:15:47] <panto> so it has audio
[19:15:57] <dm8tbr> but he asked for input
[19:16:24] <mranostay> ddr3 and not ddr2
[19:16:27] <panto> too bad :)
[19:16:34] <panto> yeah, and it's faster to boot
[19:16:46] * mranostay looks at the schmatic that doesn't exist
[19:17:33] <mranostay> panto: audio-over-HDMI?
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[19:20:46] <panto> HDMI has both video and audio streams
[19:21:11] <mranostay> but is audio part of the HDMI spec?
[19:21:16] <mru> yes
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[19:21:25] <mru> that's the point of hdmi
[19:21:35] <mru> otherwise it would just be dvi
[19:21:55] <mranostay> ah right
[19:22:32] <mru> audio is actually transmitted during the horizontal blanking interval
[19:23:04] <mranostay> nifty
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[19:37:05] <mranostay> anyone seen jkridner today?
[19:37:16] <mranostay> besides jkridner of course
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[19:39:44] <mranostay> YOCTO!
[19:39:48] <mranostay> hi davest
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[19:42:15] <woglinde> lol
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[19:46:53] <woglinde> re florian
[19:50:34] <mrpackethead> i hate bind
[19:50:38] <mrpackethead> or it hates me
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[19:54:55] <mrpackethead> if i setup a zone on a local dns server for example " beaglefarm.mydomain.com", and point my local clients to that dns server to resolve
[19:56:05] <mrpackethead> will bind look to its local zones first, before trying to resolve them
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[20:00:55] <_av500_> one bind to ring them
[20:04:05] <mrpackethead> thanks.
[20:04:12] <mrpackethead> its been a *long* time since i set up bind
[20:04:17] <mrpackethead> and i'm struggling to remember how it works
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[20:10:26] <gvk51> Hi all, I have a beagle boad XM, I am interested to do some assembly programming and run on the board, soon after bootrom execution, please give me some directions
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[20:17:34] <woglinde> mrpackethead yes frist localzones
[20:17:44] <woglinde> than asking the forwarders
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[20:18:06] <mrpackethead> yeah, i thought so
[20:18:27] <mrpackethead> somethings wrong with my config
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[20:19:47] <thurbad> gvk51: do you know arm assembly already?
[20:20:16] <woglinde> gvk51 why assembly you can programm in java
[20:20:21] <thurbad> heh
[20:21:47] <thurbad> I would suggest starting with the baremetal tutorials that exist for C first, then adapt them to assembly, rather than jumping in with both feet so if soemthing doesn't work you have a reference point
[20:21:52] <gvk51> @thurbad: Y a I have
[20:22:42] <gvk51> @woglinde: I wish to work on assembly or C
[20:23:35] <gvk51> thurbad: my intrest is the same, go with baremetal code
[20:24:50] <gvk51> give me in some suggestions, I have idea that soon after bootrom x-loader does the initialization, and then u-boot.... but I dont want to go with x-loader or u-boot
[20:25:00] <mrpackethead> head bang desk
[20:25:08] <mrpackethead> bind 2, mrpakcetheaad 0
[20:27:25] <thurbad> gvk51 why not go with existing boot loaders?
[20:28:48] <thurbad> at least MLO (x-loader)
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[21:23:45] <_av500_> pixel all the things!
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[21:34:28] <woglinde> nope
[21:34:41] <_av500_> heretic!
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[21:48:51] <mranostay> mru: er this talk is about what again?
[21:49:04] <mru> I had the same thought
[21:49:06] <_av500_> stuff
[21:49:11] <_av500_> which one?
[21:51:59] <mranostay> zzzzzzzzzz
[21:52:37] * _av500_ kicks mranostay
[21:52:43] <_av500_> what talk?
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[21:52:46] <ds2> hmmmmmm
[21:52:51] <mranostay> toybox
[21:53:23] <mranostay> which i think this the right room
[21:53:34] <mranostay> nfc
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[21:54:08] * panto kicks mranostay
[21:54:09] <_av500_> landley?
[21:54:14] <mru> ack
[21:54:19] <_av500_> ic
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[21:54:43] <mranostay> mru keeps kicking me
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[21:54:56] <_av500_> mru: dont stop
[21:54:58] <panto> good
[21:55:24] <mranostay> no love here :/
[21:58:10] <mranostay> ready to book?
[21:59:50] <prpplague> hehe
[22:00:57] <woglinde> so any news about toybox?
[22:01:11] <_av500_> woglinde: read his blog
[22:01:23] <_av500_> there is news every week
[22:01:25] <woglinde> av500 you did you can tell me
[22:01:36] <_av500_> he is working on it
[22:01:41] <_av500_> you can help
[22:01:55] <_av500_> i might, if it wasnt bzr
[22:02:04] <_av500_> there, convenient excuse found :)
[22:02:23] <woglinde> ah
[22:02:24] <woglinde> http://www.landley.net/talks/celf-2013.txt
[22:02:52] <woglinde> hehe you would work on it because of bsdish
[22:05:38] <_av500_> ?
[22:07:04] <woglinde> no?
[22:07:15] <woglinde> what would be the reason than?
[22:09:56] <_av500_> woglinde: no you are right
[22:10:24] <woglinde> I mean in its state now its far from really usefull
[22:10:41] <_av500_> patches welcome
[22:10:48] <woglinde> and I doubt he will finish it in 2 years
[22:11:28] <woglinde> av500 haha nono I am wasting my time with porting tegra gst modules to 1.0
[22:11:45] <woglinde> but now I go to sleep
[22:11:47] <_av500_> gee, you are still on that t2?
[22:11:48] <woglinde> good nite
[22:12:01] <woglinde> sure ac100 is nice
[22:12:11] <woglinde> no need to buy a chromebook
[22:12:17] <_av500_> right
[22:12:27] <mdp> jkridner is carrying his portable mustache app machine around ELC today. :-/
[22:12:32] <_av500_> if you have time...
[22:12:52] <woglinde> av500 I could waste it to update meta-java too
[22:12:58] <_av500_> woglinde: I have 2 T2 tablets and browsing on them is horribly slow
[22:13:10] <_av500_> compared to omap4 or similar
[22:13:20] <woglinde> android?
[22:13:57] <woglinde> btw. I have the foilo too
[22:14:02] <_av500_> no, maemo
[22:14:05] <woglinde> good for angry birds
[22:14:06] <_av500_> of course android
[22:14:17] <woglinde> 2.3?
[22:14:22] <mdp> _av500_: i noticed that Linus can't use ARM devices with a bad cache model :)
[22:15:00] <woglinde> av500 another waste of time could be testing freedreno on my cellphone
[22:15:13] <woglinde> and get a200 running
[22:16:16] <_av500_> mdp: ah
[22:16:39] * _av500_ hugs AnyDVD
[22:16:43] * _av500_ might even buy it
[22:17:27] <woglinde> so now really off
[22:20:28] <_av500_> I hope Google opens a store soon so I can camp there for a week to get a 1.3k chromebook
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[22:26:03] <thurbad> lol
[22:26:10] <mrpackethead> yeah, thats fun
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[22:46:37] <mranostay> trolls trolls trolls
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[22:53:22] <_av500_> epic thread is epic: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1445369/focus=1445405
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[22:54:41] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
[22:56:55] <panto> linus is a a**hole, part #83434
[22:56:57] <panto> hehe
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[23:01:50] <mranostay> heh
[23:02:39] <mdp> we don't have those contests in the Heartland...hrm
[23:05:33] <mranostay> just hate crime beard cutting
[23:06:14] <mdp> +1
[23:06:37] * mdp hatses neckbeardses
[23:07:18] <Russ> panto, prpplague, https://github.com/russdill/mite
[23:07:27] <Russ> drawing.png shows connector locations
[23:08:54] <prpplague> Russ: dandy!
[23:09:12] <_av500_> whats that?
[23:09:13] <panto> Russ, nice
[23:09:19] <panto> I think I got one from prpplague
[23:09:32] <_av500_> ah,readme
[23:10:07] <mdp> prpplague: hrm....we forgot to showcase your hdmi board!
[23:10:21] <prpplague> mdp: yea i know we were running short on time
[23:10:30] <prpplague> mdp: i was just about to send you an email
[23:10:33] <mdp> prpplague: really need 2 hours to dive into that stuff
[23:10:40] <prpplague> mdp: we need to do the Bof again but need 2 hours
[23:10:42] <prpplague> mdp: HA
[23:10:48] <mdp> jinx!
[23:10:58] <prpplague> mdp: with an extra hour for some hands on tech demo
[23:11:02] <prpplague> mdp: ELCE?
[23:11:09] <mdp> maybe ti will send me to sunny .uk for that :)
[23:11:13] <mdp> jinx!
[23:11:26] <prpplague> hehe
[23:12:00] * prpplague goes over his slides
[23:12:24] <mdp> could you imagine a group session with some stuff demoed?
[23:12:44] <mdp> as a next-gen version of that bof?
[23:12:53] <prpplague> indeed
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[23:13:11] <mdp> line up 3-4 people for a demo of their pet tricks
[23:13:18] <mdp> discuss!
[23:13:27] <panto> but I don't have a pet trick!
[23:13:41] <panto> I can't even eye-wink with my right eye
[23:13:47] <mdp> some people are just here for their good looks
[23:14:01] <mdp> can you wear a monocle?
[23:14:16] <panto> just barely
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[23:14:41] <prpplague> mdp: i'd need some of your "street cred" to grab some big names...
[23:15:45] <mdp> lol
[23:16:07] <mdp> i've never been accused of having street cred..hehe
[23:16:41] <panto> can't be
[23:16:42] <mdp> will you endorse me for that on linkedin?
[23:16:57] <panto> you mean you lied when you said that you were sitting at the back desks at class?
[23:17:03] <mdp> prpplague: anyway, what do you meam?
[23:17:05] <panto> no tattoos?
[23:17:36] * kkeller all along I thought mdp had street crud
[23:17:52] <mdp> prpplague: i'm thinking rostedt with a quick demo of ktest.pl...my project should be done by then to demo it
[23:18:20] <prpplague> mdp: yea rostedt and a few other would be great!
[23:18:23] <mdp> you with hdmi analysis...etc
[23:18:35] <prpplague> yea
[23:18:45] <mdp> he'll do it if we ask him
[23:18:46] <prpplague> mdp: i think it would be a great session based on the turnout today
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[23:19:41] <mdp> yes, i was 100% surprised...i was thinkimg it would be 5 of us and we could pack up and go watch FIT fireworks.
[23:20:28] <mrpackethead> mrpackethead 17, bind 16
[23:20:29] <mrpackethead> i wind
[23:20:31] <mrpackethead> win
[23:20:33] <mrpackethead> finaly
[23:20:41] <mrpackethead> and now i know how it works.
[23:21:30] <mdp> prpplague, btw, offering a session model a little like Plumbers would fit this well. dunno how flexible the progrsm committee is on elc formst though
[23:21:53] <prpplague> mdp: we have a procom meeting this evening
[23:22:58] <calculus> wait jkridner is at elc, I totally missed him last night
[23:23:20] <mdp> not sure i can get .eu conf approved this year though..but I'll try.
[23:24:02] <prpplague> calculus: he was out to some meetings
[23:24:23] <prpplague> mdp: well play it by ear but i'll discuss it with the procom
[23:24:34] <mdp> he's out drawing mustaches
[23:24:51] <mdp> prpplague: sounds good
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[23:25:23] <calculus> yeah, that mustache thing, I am trying to duplicate it but angstrom feeds are broken
[23:25:35] <calculus> prpplague: bummer
[23:25:39] <mdp> aha...mru time!
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