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  • [00:10:43] <Russ> hooray http://hastebin.com/bufukovuye.vhdl
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  • [00:32:55] <thurbad> is that fastbooting on a bone?
  • [00:36:51] <emeb> like how hastebin gives it a filetype .vhdl
  • [00:38:22] * Crofton is chipscoping
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  • [00:40:36] <emeb> chipscope rules
  • [00:40:53] <emeb> just wish it were scriptable.
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  • [00:45:18] <Crofton> it seems to be improving progress
  • [00:51:27] <wmat> mranostay: heh
  • [01:01:15] <mranostay> wmat: you order the keg of PBR?
  • [01:01:27] <mranostay> or is it just pizza still?
  • [01:02:13] <wmat> mranostay: just pizza, I think
  • [01:02:27] <wmat> mranostay: there are some sweet prizes for wiki edits though
  • [01:03:14] <wmat> you may have notices that ELC is broken into tech zones this year
  • [01:03:16] <mranostay> wmat: so i can edit the same page 40 times :)
  • [01:03:29] <mranostay> no troll zone?
  • [01:03:32] <wmat> real-time, security, boot-time, etc. etc.
  • [01:03:41] <wmat> shh, that's a secret zone
  • [01:03:52] * mranostay wonders what his talk is under
  • [01:03:58] <mranostay> misc crap to get a conference pass :)
  • [01:04:14] <wmat> you doing the telemetry talk?
  • [01:04:34] <mranostay> yeah
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  • [01:05:01] <wmat> networking then, i'd guess
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  • [01:05:19] <mru> why no troll zone?
  • [01:06:16] <wmat> that'll be in the bar later
  • [01:06:51] <mranostay> hmm networking really?
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  • [01:07:43] <mranostay> mru: which trolls are coming to this one?
  • [01:07:48] <mranostay> that weren't in ELCE
  • [01:08:07] <mru> not sure
  • [01:08:38] <wmat> mranostay: I asked TimB where your talk would land
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  • [01:09:59] <mranostay> so no bitbanging zone? :)
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  • [01:20:53] <prpplague> wow getting kinda freaky in here...
  • [01:21:18] <mranostay> prpplague: was getting too quiet had to bring it up
  • [01:21:25] <prpplague> ahh
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  • [01:22:33] <mranostay> prpplague: you have any demos for ELC?
  • [01:22:59] <prpplague> mranostay: no demos this time around
  • [01:23:02] <wmat> he'll be demoing the proper way to shotgun a beer
  • [01:23:11] <mranostay> the LA way?
  • [01:23:19] <prpplague> mranostay: although i am overseeing the beaglebone tutorials
  • [01:24:15] <prpplague> just got back from having a few beers with koen
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  • [01:30:17] <Crofton> bone daddy's?
  • [01:30:34] <Crofton> we are still working on the left coast
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  • [01:34:46] <prpplague> Crofton: hehe, fox and hound
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  • [01:37:15] <retrosenator> anyone know how to change the splash screen on the pico projector?
  • [01:38:53] <mranostay> er
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  • [01:40:21] <mdp> prpplague: mcdonaldsDaddy's
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  • [02:23:33] <jkridner> koen-: work-around is 'export M4=m4'
  • [02:23:43] <jkridner> issue is http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin@cygwin.com/msg89665.html
  • [02:24:16] <jkridner> wow, 2008. k. not certain that is the issue, but that is where I found the work-around.
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  • [03:30:15] <retrosenator> does anyone know how to reset the splash screen on the dlp pico projector?
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  • [03:56:51] <mranostay> wtf is a pico projector?
  • [03:59:43] <thurbad> it's a low res portable digital projector
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  • [04:05:56] <prpplague> mranostay: http://www.brookstone.com/aaxa-80-lumens-p4x-pico-hdmi-pocket-projector?bkiid=SearchResults|CategoryProductList|810915p
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  • [04:10:49] <mranostay> prpplague: so how did three TIers get the same slot? :)
  • [04:11:20] <mranostay> i'm forced to choose between denix and mdp.. *sniff* :)
  • [04:12:22] <mranostay> Crofton: btw you also owe me a beer for skipping my talk :P
  • [04:12:26] <prpplague> mranostay: just luck of the draw
  • [04:12:57] <mranostay> prpplague: me and frank are in a hard slot :)
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  • [04:15:36] <mranostay> ds2: ouch you have the last slot
  • [04:15:54] <ds2> mranostay: huh?
  • [04:16:15] <ds2> slot for?
  • [04:17:13] <mranostay> unless there is another Hunyue Yau :)
  • [04:17:26] <mranostay> ELC
  • [04:17:30] <Russ> thurbad, swsusp resume from u-boot
  • [04:17:48] <ds2> they shuffled again?
  • [04:18:01] <ds2> the last I heard it was wed.
  • [04:18:04] <mranostay> look at the schedule
  • [04:19:23] <ds2> DOH...
  • [04:19:29] <ds2> and I am still waiting for my refund...
  • [04:19:48] <ds2> this gives me more time to get my demo working then ;)
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  • [04:25:53] <mranostay> the tomatoes will be nice and mushy by the third day too :)
  • [04:26:02] <mrpackethead> doh doh doh
  • [04:26:14] <emeb_mac> mmm... juicy!
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  • [05:15:04] <ka6sox> mranostay, I am hoping they are just sopping by the time your talk is.
  • [05:15:53] <mranostay> geez thanks ka6sox
  • [05:20:51] <ka6sox> he he ....
  • [05:20:54] <ka6sox> smile!
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  • [05:24:17] <mrpackethead> did'nt hurt
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  • [06:03:07] <mrpackethead> mranostay: did you get my email
  • [06:05:28] <mranostay> yep
  • [06:05:42] <mranostay> the tubes work usually
  • [06:11:43] <av500> ew, tubes
  • [06:11:48] <ds2> Mmmmm tubes
  • [06:12:12] <emeb_mac> ewwtube.com
  • [06:12:28] <av500> not gonna click that
  • [06:12:30] <Russ> I was expecting videos of sheep
  • [06:12:33] <Russ> I am disappointed
  • [06:12:35] <emeb_mac> no kidding
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  • [06:13:00] <ds2> mranostay: have you seen the press button style setups for generating the HV?
  • [06:13:22] <emeb_mac> what - piezo zappers?
  • [06:13:51] <ds2> no... the button is an interruptor for a coil
  • [06:14:46] <emeb_mac> ah - just an ordinary hv xfrmr.
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  • [06:15:10] <ds2> avoids the need for the multivibrator/buzzer
  • [06:15:38] <emeb_mac> so do you have to pulse the button manually?
  • [06:17:10] <emeb_mac> shockingly, no one is using ewwtube.com. I sense an opportunity!
  • [06:17:23] <av500> one? several!
  • [06:18:51] <ds2> not ewetube.com? ;)
  • [06:19:32] <emeb_mac> baaaa!
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  • [06:22:28] <ds2> have a countdown timer page
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  • [06:52:08] <tsjsieb> goodmorning
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  • [07:25:44] <KotH> good jihad!
  • [07:27:01] <dm8tbr> good moaning
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  • [07:41:47] <av500> KotH: woot
  • [07:42:09] <av500> KotH: somebody finally mentioned bittorrent on that thread!
  • [07:42:23] <av500> and one of the mesh guys said, yes, they are working on it
  • [07:43:22] <KotH> lol
  • [07:43:26] <KotH> musta read again!
  • [07:43:46] <tsjsieb> anybody here using uart4 on a am3517/am3505?
  • [07:46:52] <KotH> av500: at least the monk dot guy seems to know where the problem with mesh networks is
  • [07:47:15] <KotH> av500: but i doubt he already has a solution for that (otherwise he'd be the hero of a huge research community)
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  • [07:51:12] <av500> ....we need more ad hoc networks when obama comes to take over ours. PERIOD.....
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  • [08:00:03] <KotH> ack
  • [08:00:24] <KotH> someday we will bring FREEDOM to the usians!
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  • [08:31:46] <mrpackethead> trolls
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  • [08:34:04] <mrpackethead> i'm looking at the beagle
  • [08:34:10] <mrpackethead> and trying to work out what can be removed!
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  • [08:34:44] <av500> mrpackethead: remove it all and get rpi :)
  • [08:34:55] <mrpackethead> lol.
  • [08:35:24] <av500> you called for trolls
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  • [08:52:24] <mrpackethead> no, i smelt trolls
  • [08:58:01] <av500> troll smelter
  • [08:59:45] <mrpackethead> are trolls metallic?
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  • [09:12:19] <KotH> potentially ferroelectric
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  • [09:39:09] <KotH> zehra23.29
  • [09:39:27] <KotH> ?hm..
  • [09:39:27] <KotH> you didnt see that ^^'
  • [09:39:40] <av500> see what?
  • [09:39:44] <av500> nice pwd, btw
  • [09:39:44] <KotH> exactly
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  • [10:14:48] <mrpackethead> so, i know the password, i just need the username and the host
  • [10:15:00] <mrpackethead> that shoudl only take about 100million years
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  • [10:17:22] <panto> gm
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  • [10:23:16] <KotH> mrpackethead: 192.168.0.14
  • [10:23:25] <mrpackethead> oh excllent..
  • [10:23:31] <mrpackethead> thanks.
  • [10:24:00] <mrpackethead> our firewall blocks that Address range
  • [10:24:03] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [10:24:08] <mrpackethead> truely it does.
  • [10:24:42] <mrpackethead> i have seen those netblocks appearing in a local Peering Point once.
  • [10:24:59] <mrpackethead> had to whip some so called netowrk engineers
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  • [10:58:20] <KotH> mrpackethead: reminds me of our provider in 2000...
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  • [11:01:58] <jackmitchell> it's ok, only a few months ago we had a drive failure on our main servers
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  • [11:02:23] <jackmitchell> that's when we found out, our provider, had been storing the drive backup.... wait for it....
  • [11:02:34] <jackmitchell> on the same drive.
  • [11:02:41] <jackmitchell> :(
  • [11:03:33] <jackmitchell> my cynicism levelled up that day
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  • [11:04:49] <KotH> eh..
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  • [11:05:23] <KotH> one reason why our IT is internal... although outsourcing would be much cheaper: we know how well our stuff is done
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  • [11:06:10] <jackmitchell> yes, I do all my own 'internal IT', aka I have nothing to do with any of the managed IT apart from my company email
  • [11:09:53] <panto> lol
  • [11:10:17] <panto> every developer worth it's salt should do the same - IT departments are for the secretaries
  • [11:10:47] <KotH> actually, no
  • [11:11:14] <KotH> having someone who cares about the general setup of machines and infrastructure saves a lot of time of any developer who can invest it to do better things
  • [11:11:26] <av500> like writing time sheets
  • [11:11:30] <KotH> exactly
  • [11:13:24] <panto> I don't agree
  • [11:13:47] <panto> being self-reliant with the tools of your trade is important
  • [11:14:00] <panto> I'm not saying you should run your own mail/web server
  • [11:14:18] <panto> but you should be able to get work done without being reliant on TI
  • [11:14:35] <av500> thats why I bring my own ipad to work
  • [11:14:50] <av500> so I can surf the net without IT department
  • [11:15:29] <panto> they let you have an ipad? don't you work for a company that makes competing tablets? :)
  • [11:15:48] <av500> shhh
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  • [11:21:20] <Russ> mdp, does edma need to do anything on suspend/resume?
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  • [11:23:57] <Russ> can't help but to notice that it's in the PER domain
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  • [11:25:40] <jackmitchell> what would be the best way of finding the size of an unsigned long at runtime in the kernel
  • [11:25:54] <jackmitchell> sizeof(unsigned long) crashes the kernel for some reason unbeknown to me
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  • [11:26:30] <av500> ...You have one of the top 5% most viewed LinkedIn profiles for 2012. ...
  • [11:26:32] <av500> lol
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  • [11:39:51] <panto> jackmitchell, err, that's not possible
  • [11:40:13] <panto> sizeof(unsigned long) is fixed at compile time
  • [11:40:16] <jackmitchell> panto: yes, I just figured it out know, it was down to my kfifo incompetance
  • [11:40:25] <panto> heh
  • [11:40:33] <jackmitchell> I was passing it a value rather than a pointer
  • [11:40:39] <jackmitchell> it was not happy about it
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  • [12:29:46] <jackmitchell> urgh G+ is showing me 'Cute Love Quotes'
  • [12:30:04] <mru> what were you expecting this time of year
  • [12:30:26] <av500> hmm, mine is not
  • [12:30:35] <av500> you circled the wrong people
  • [12:30:48] <mru> mine is not either
  • [12:30:52] <jackmitchell> it's the What's Hot stuff they shove down your throat
  • [12:31:01] <mru> but I've hidden all the crap to the right of the main stream
  • [12:31:03] <av500> I never go there
  • [12:31:07] <jackmitchell> 'inspirational quotes' bleugh
  • [12:31:11] <jackmitchell> how do I stop it?
  • [12:31:15] <av500> stop?
  • [12:31:19] <mru> hide under a rock until friday
  • [12:31:36] <jackmitchell> is there a way to 'unsubscribe' from the whats hot feed?
  • [12:31:47] <av500> in the app? or browser?
  • [12:31:56] <mru> I got rid of it in both
  • [12:32:02] <mru> forgot how
  • [12:32:21] <av500> in the browser, move the slider to the left
  • [12:32:23] <jackmitchell> ah hah, I had to slide the slider to never show this feed
  • [12:32:28] <av500> yes
  • [12:32:35] <jackmitchell> successkid.jpg
  • [12:32:37] <dm8tbr> jackmitchell: there is in the settings
  • [12:32:59] <mru> can we get back to trolling now?
  • [12:33:13] <av500> just one more love quote....
  • [12:35:31] <dm8tbr> jackmitchell: https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore move the slider at the top to the left. done.
  • [12:35:43] <jackmitchell> dm8tbr: yep, I've found it thanks!
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  • [12:49:44] <KotH> jackmitchell: b-tard?
  • [12:50:49] <dm8tbr> lots of +tards here though
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  • [12:57:29] <HappyHippo> boo boo hoo, I bought a 5 volt 3 amp power supply, and I still have the same problem with Starterware and the beagle bone
  • [12:58:27] <HappyHippo> does anyone know the defualt URL for the starterware demo?
  • [12:58:29] <dm8tbr> what's a 'starterware'
  • [12:58:35] <HappyHippo> or is it dynamic?
  • [12:59:04] <HappyHippo> dm8btbr : startware is a library for programming the beaglebone without any OS
  • [12:59:59] <dm8tbr> well, ask the vendor?
  • [13:02:11] <HappyHippo> well thank you very much, why didnt anyone think of that before, I just love it when someone has the solution
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  • [13:05:30] <keesj> I have a beagle xm where the serial doesn't properly output the boot rom "60" even after a full power down / remove power usb etc
  • [13:05:31] <jackmitchell> HappyHippo: it's great isn't it, the obvious answer is always overlooked
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  • [13:06:16] <keesj> I can get is back to a working state if I boot from the sd-card. any clue? (I tried all possible baudrates)
  • [13:06:58] <jackmitchell> KotH: I don't delve into those lower echelons of the internet
  • [13:07:21] <jackmitchell> KotH: far too many lower echelon women in that hole
  • [13:07:26] <mdp> Russ, I didn't look at that for am335x. it's probable that the queue priority regs may need to be restored
  • [13:07:51] <Russ> I see a 3.2 psp patch for it
  • [13:08:09] <Russ> I'm fighting with 3.8 pm though
  • [13:08:24] <Russ> doesn't seem to want to call my suspend/resume functions
  • [13:11:06] <Russ> ah, its a platform_device/hibernation interaction
  • [13:12:47] <Russ> device_resume->platform_pm_restore->platform_legacy_resume-> dev->resume (which does not exist, only pm_ops->resume)
  • [13:17:56] <HappyHippo> I think I am going to go back to FPGA's
  • [13:19:00] <mru> going back to stone axes and bear skins is looking increasingly like a good idea
  • [13:19:27] <av500> +1
  • [13:20:12] <mru> never mind that I'd be dead within a week
  • [13:20:13] <HappyHippo> as silly as it sounds, if you write a few good VHDL libs, FPGA's can be rather productive
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  • [13:23:39] <av500> HappyHippo: what starterware url?
  • [13:24:53] <HappyHippo> av500, this is how the starterware is suppost to work, you put a bootloader and app file on an SD card, put SD card into beagle bone, then you connect ethernet to the beagle bone, along with a USB for the serial
  • [13:25:11] <av500> and serial is silent?
  • [13:25:21] <HappyHippo> av500, then you connect a terminal program to the beagle bone, which will tell you the URL of the beaglebone ethernet
  • [13:25:42] <HappyHippo> av500, occasionally the beaglebone spits out CCCCCCCC on a terminal window
  • [13:28:02] <jackmitchell> HappyHippo: what steps did you take
  • [13:28:11] <jackmitchell> have you copied the MLO file to the sd card?
  • [13:28:47] <HappyHippo> jackmitchell : yes and the app file as well, and I also tried doing it with the documentation mention TI utility for formating the SD card
  • [13:29:36] <jackmitchell> HappyHippo: hmm, CCCCC usually means that it can't find the MLO file
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  • [13:30:04] <jackmitchell> did you get the bootloader from this folder: "\binary\armv7a\cgt_ccs\am335x\beaglebone\bootloader\".
  • [13:30:08] <HappyHippo> I am wondering, is the partition supposed to be of some limited size
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  • [13:31:27] <HappyHippo> JackMitchell : that is correct, and I got the demo from its "\binary\armv7a\cgt_ccs\am335x\beaglebone\demo"
  • [13:32:04] <av500> wow: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboot/source/browse/beagleboot/filesystem/ff.c#422
  • [13:32:45] <jackmitchell> ok, so you formatted the SD card to FAT16, then copied the boot_ti.bin to MLO, then copied the <app_name>_ti,bin to app on the card
  • [13:32:46] <jackmitchell> in that order
  • [13:32:57] <jackmitchell> it is important that the MLO goes on first I belive
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  • [13:33:16] <av500> no
  • [13:33:19] <mru> it is not
  • [13:33:26] <HappyHippo> JackMitchell thats what I did
  • [13:33:26] <jackmitchell> I stand corrected
  • [13:33:47] <jackmitchell> HappyHippo: if that's what you did then I'm out of ideas I'm afraid
  • [13:34:36] <mru> is the fat partition an even number of sectors in size, and is it marked active/bootable?
  • [13:35:23] <HappyHippo> One think I have noticed, under device manager, there is the "Texas Instruments XDS560 PCI JTAG emulator" I am wondering, shouldnt it be a USB emulator? I am just wondering if there is a problem with the windows drivers and are getting confused with the USB serial and emulator drivers
  • [13:35:41] <HappyHippo> MRU, good point
  • [13:35:53] <mru> if you see CCCC you have the serial setup right
  • [13:37:39] <av500> mru: like this: http://images.derstandard.at/2012/11/08/1350343771728.jpg
  • [13:38:02] <mru> looks about right
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  • [13:40:02] <av500> not to be confused with http://images.derstandard.at/2012/11/08/1350343772451.jpg
  • [13:40:32] <mru> I see
  • [13:40:43] <HappyHippo> jackmitchell : at least you went through the proper procedure
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  • [13:43:03] <ant_work> av500: hmpfff I got that one https://twitter.com/CCCCUSA
  • [13:43:24] <mru> oh dear
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  • [13:44:57] <av500> interesting
  • [13:45:28] <mdp> CCCCCCCCC
  • [13:45:42] <av500> mdp: out!
  • [13:46:57] <mru> CCCCMOS
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  • [13:54:08] <dm8tbr> 29C3
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  • [14:14:56] * Russ looks a little sideways at regulator_check_consumers in drivers/regulator/core.c
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  • [14:27:17] <Russ> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1817551/
  • [14:27:49] <Russ> http://hastebin.com/bepiyuqire.pl
  • [14:28:06] <Russ> sadly that isn't how list_for_each_entry works
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  • [14:52:01] <koen-> prpplague: good morning!
  • [14:52:23] <prpplague> koen-: greetings texan koen
  • [14:52:52] * mdp hears "synergy" and reaches for the flask
  • [14:52:57] <prpplague> hehe
  • [14:55:27] <koen-> prpplague: I've been staring at a build problem for a week now
  • [14:55:43] <koen-> prpplague: finally went through the config.log, turns out it's due to ccache
  • [14:55:48] * koen- headdesks
  • [14:55:55] <prpplague> doh
  • [14:56:00] <prpplague> btdt
  • [14:56:45] * mru gave up on ccacche, distcc and similar tricks years ago
  • [14:57:20] <mru> turns out getting a fast computer and avoiding shitty software works just as well
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  • [15:01:06] <emeb_mac> avoiding shitty software is the more difficult of those two...
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  • [15:03:06] <av500> http://www.vapoursynth.com/2012/10/open-binary-introducing-a-practical-alternative-to-open-source/
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  • [15:06:55] <mru> av500: haven't you posted that before?
  • [15:08:35] <av500> have I?
  • [15:08:43] <mru> someone has
  • [15:08:47] <mru> I know I've seen it before
  • [15:09:05] <mru> and it's (clearly) the kind of thing you'd post
  • [15:09:10] <KotH> av500: you had
  • [15:09:20] <KotH> and it used to mention mplayer in the text
  • [15:09:21] <av500> posted or pasted?
  • [15:09:26] <mru> KotH: still does
  • [15:09:28] <KotH> irc
  • [15:09:35] <KotH> mru: oh? have i overlooked it?
  • [15:09:40] <av500> mru: now that I read it, yes
  • [15:09:50] * KotH is blind
  • [15:09:58] * KotH talked for too long with webdesigners today
  • [15:10:15] <mru> KotH: sounds like you need some chocolate
  • [15:10:23] <mru> seeing as you don't drink
  • [15:10:30] <KotH> good idea
  • [15:10:37] <av500> hmm
  • [15:10:39] * KotH walks off to grab some
  • [15:10:55] <mru> are you saying drinking is a good idea?
  • [15:11:05] <mru> don't give me any ideas
  • [15:13:40] <mdp> it is
  • [15:14:31] <mru> that's what the bottle of scotch keeps insisting too
  • [15:14:37] <mru> so far I haven't quite believed it
  • [15:15:05] <mru> I suspect it has its own agenda
  • [15:16:21] <mdp> it's ok to succumb to its warm embrace
  • [15:17:56] <mru> an embrace can quickly turn into a stranglehold
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  • [15:18:21] <mru> goes for both whisky and women
  • [15:21:35] <KotH> mru: nope, eating chocolate
  • [15:22:37] <KotH> choclate is nice... it wont strangle you, it wont hold you longer than you feel confortable and women like it if you always have some good chocolate with you
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  • [15:23:37] <mru> there's bound to be a catch somewhere
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  • [15:26:14] <KotH> yes: whenever i ate a lot of chocolate, i lost weight
  • [15:26:19] <KotH> with you that might be dangerouse
  • [15:26:40] <mru> if it's possible
  • [15:26:48] <mdp> you've mentioned 3 things together here
  • [15:27:02] <mdp> 2 of which are predictable...1 of which is completely unpredictable
  • [15:27:23] <mru> women are unpredictable
  • [15:27:26] <KotH> mru: i went from 65kg down to 60 within a couple of months... while eating normaly (other than 0.5-1kg chocolate a day)
  • [15:27:58] <tsjsieb> I think most people on the cocoa plantations prefer scotch!
  • [15:28:20] <KotH> tsjsieb: that's because they dont get the swiss chocolate
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  • [15:28:43] <mru> tsjsieb: don't get me wrong, I like a good scotch
  • [15:28:56] <tsjsieb> KoTH: or it's because the dont get anything
  • [15:29:42] <tsjsieb> or at least that goes for a lot of them
  • [15:31:16] <tsjsieb> mru: is there such a thing as bad scotch? or can we call good scotch just scotch!
  • [15:31:35] <mru> there are things sold under that label that I'd rather not drink
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  • [15:35:04] <av500> KotH: now that mesh thing has 200 reshares...
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  • [15:45:27] <prpplague> fun fun fun
  • [15:45:30] <prpplague> i love it
  • [15:45:47] <prpplague> 3 months of no job offers in the DFW area, and now i get 5 in one day
  • [15:46:00] * prpplague has some decisions to make
  • [15:46:48] <av500> 5 jobs
  • [15:46:51] <av500> one day each
  • [15:46:55] <av500> per week
  • [15:47:48] <mdp> good idea...give them each a trial period "you're on probation...impress me!"
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  • [16:16:22] <KotH> av500: it's a sad wordl
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  • [16:27:15] <n7segment> KotH: by chance, did you attend ETH Zurich?
  • [16:27:29] <av500> of course
  • [16:28:00] <KotH> n7segment: holo drew?
  • [16:28:16] <n7segment> genau!
  • [16:28:21] <KotH> yay!
  • [16:28:26] <n7segment> ahahahhahahahahah dude that is insane
  • [16:28:26] <av500> Hurra!
  • [16:29:01] <KotH> what brings you to this trollish channel?
  • [16:29:56] <n7segment> working for a company that's prototyping on a beagle board
  • [16:30:11] <n7segment> CTO hangs out here, so I figured I'd take up the habit
  • [16:30:17] <KotH> hehe
  • [16:30:26] <KotH> so, your CTO is a troll?
  • [16:30:32] <av500> out him!
  • [16:31:14] <n7segment> don't think he's on right now, but a couple weeks ago he was complaining about how helpful y'all were
  • [16:31:14] <panto> KotH, duh, it's CTO - Chief Troll Officer
  • [16:31:29] <KotH> lol
  • [16:31:44] <KotH> n7segment: as with holo, this is not a family friendly channel
  • [16:32:07] <woglinde> gm
  • [16:32:15] <KotH> but with the righ questions asked and bribing the right people with swiss chocolate you can learn a lot
  • [16:32:19] <panto> hi woglinde
  • [16:32:19] <KotH> hoi woglinde
  • [16:32:26] <woglinde> cto?
  • [16:32:28] <woglinde> oh my god
  • [16:32:40] <woglinde> jo panto
  • [16:32:45] <woglinde> who is it who is it
  • [16:32:49] <woglinde> its not koth
  • [16:32:51] <woglinde> thats for sure
  • [16:33:14] <KotH> woglinde: ofc it's not me!
  • [16:33:16] <KotH> woglinde: i'm cco
  • [16:33:38] <av500> no, koen- is cco
  • [16:33:40] <woglinde> hm there is no p for pratikant
  • [16:33:43] <av500> CCO in fact
  • [16:33:47] <KotH> av500: different cco :)
  • [16:34:00] <av500> over here, we have a COE
  • [16:34:21] <KotH> chief officier executor?
  • [16:34:37] <woglinde> chief executioner
  • [16:35:14] <n7segment> KotH: that's ok... gary turned it into his personal site, heh. You still ever talk?
  • [16:35:36] <KotH> n7segment: not really.. havent met him in 10 years or so
  • [16:35:47] <woglinde> yes koth talks the whole day
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  • [16:36:11] <KotH> n7segment: i was at his door two years ago, but he was sleeping so deeply that he didnt hear me ringing... at 3pm
  • [16:37:08] <KotH> woglinde: do i talk too much for your taste?
  • [16:37:19] <n7segment> amazing... he's taken to video chatting me at like 0800 Colorado time on Saturdays
  • [16:37:38] <woglinde> koth haha its okay
  • [16:38:04] <KotH> woglinde: i could try to talk more if you want ;)
  • [16:38:07] <KotH> n7segment: huh?
  • [16:38:18] <KotH> n7segment: since when does gary get up early?
  • [16:38:31] <KotH> n7segment: especially on a saturday
  • [16:38:41] <KotH> must be getting old
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  • [16:40:50] <KotH> n7segment: what are you up to these days? beside working on a beagle?
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  • [16:43:18] <av500> KotH: Chief of Everything
  • [16:43:55] <KotH> av500: so, that's where you get your anime from!
  • [16:45:04] <n7segment> KotH: nah, he's calling at 0800 _my_ time. CET -8
  • [16:45:36] <KotH> n7segment: i got that.. but 16 is still very early for gary
  • [16:45:40] <KotH> :)
  • [16:45:44] <n7segment> heh, true :)
  • [16:47:27] <n7segment> Me, I'm working for a tech startup. Connected devices. Nothing much else new in life. And you?
  • [16:48:04] <KotH> working at a not-so-startup doing all kind of electronics and software :)
  • [16:48:08] <jackmitchell> Internet of Things(tm)!
  • [16:48:18] <av500> thing of internets!
  • [16:48:29] <KotH> thing of tubes!
  • [16:49:27] <KotH> http://www.protomold.com <- nice service.. and cheap too
  • [16:50:47] <Russ> I could make my own internet tube!
  • [16:50:59] <n7segment> I'm with Russ
  • [16:51:16] <KotH> oh.. poor n7segment
  • [16:52:11] <n7segment> hah
  • [16:53:24] <mranostay> morning people
  • [16:53:28] * mranostay sips coffee
  • [16:53:38] <woglinde> gm mranostay
  • [16:53:40] <mru> mranostay: good habit
  • [16:54:08] <KotH> s/coffee/brown awfully tasting liquid that contains coffein/
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  • [16:56:06] <mru> KotH: maybe he actually found some decent coffee
  • [16:56:14] <av500> in the US?
  • [16:56:18] <emeb> +1 for coffein.
  • [16:56:22] <mru> av500: it is possible
  • [16:56:25] <av500> microbrewed?
  • [16:56:38] <n7segment> coffee sounds good
  • [16:56:40] <av500> schmockaccino?
  • [16:56:45] <KotH> mru: you dont drink coffee early in the morning
  • [16:56:50] <av500> frockaccino
  • [16:57:05] <mru> KotH: it's afternoon here
  • [16:57:09] <KotH> mru: coffee is something to enjoy after lunch, or later in the afternoon, sitting in the garden, chatting with friends
  • [16:57:27] <av500> +1
  • [16:57:28] <KotH> mru: not at mranostay's place
  • [16:57:29] <mru> I have no garden and not many friends
  • [16:58:03] <mranostay> you have us, i think
  • [16:58:18] <mru> you're trolls
  • [16:58:31] <woglinde> ,)
  • [17:00:06] <emeb> trolls can't be friends?
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  • [17:02:12] <av500> mru: sigh
  • [17:02:17] <av500> people take stuff serious
  • [17:02:30] <mru> I thought diy kraken was funny...
  • [17:02:37] <ogra_> like glueing worms ?
  • [17:02:44] <av500> yeah
  • [17:02:46] <mru> of course _doing_ it would be cruel
  • [17:02:53] <mru> but only a little
  • [17:02:55] <av500> well of course
  • [17:02:59] <mru> we're talking about worms after all
  • [17:03:02] <mru> and the kraken
  • [17:03:14] <woglinde> kraken for the win
  • [17:04:08] <av500> this is nice: http://www.avertedimagination.com/images/small_labor_day_sun.jpg
  • [17:04:12] <ogra_> just point them there http://ow.ly/2uNGAn
  • [17:05:44] <av500> ogra_: how cruel
  • [17:05:51] <ogra_> heh
  • [17:06:01] <av500> breeding worms for fun
  • [17:06:19] <av500> and even giving them away
  • [17:06:27] <av500> tearing apart families
  • [17:06:31] <av500> loved ones
  • [17:06:57] <av500> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA
  • [17:06:58] <ogra_> but you can producce krakens fast too !
  • [17:07:47] <mru> hmm, can you use those to build a hyperkraken?
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  • [17:09:26] <mru> btw, what time are the elc slides due?
  • [17:09:39] <mranostay> av500: that with a filter?
  • [17:09:51] <mru> and what's to stop me editing them more?
  • [17:09:58] <mru> mranostay: obviously some kind of filter
  • [17:11:15] <av500> mranostay: guess so
  • [17:11:21] <av500> instagram
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  • [17:14:45] <Russ> mru, today
  • [17:14:51] <Russ> oh, time
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  • [17:15:48] <mru> 'today' is a rather loosely defined term
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  • [17:16:43] <woglinde> jo prpplague
  • [17:16:49] <mranostay> EOB PDT?
  • [17:16:58] <prpplague> ho ho and bottle of bajan rum
  • [17:17:27] <mru> prpplague: can I substitute scotch?
  • [17:17:30] <mranostay> or whatever the end of the day on some small island country :)
  • [17:17:42] <mranostay> prpplague: starting early
  • [17:17:47] <prpplague> mru: sure
  • [17:17:53] <panto> hey prpplague
  • [17:17:54] <mranostay> rum up my coffee
  • [17:18:01] <prpplague> panto: hey bud!
  • [17:18:08] <av500> mru: scotched aerth tactics?
  • [17:18:11] <av500> mru: scotched earth tactics?
  • [17:18:34] <prpplague> hehe
  • [17:18:35] <mranostay> prpplague is friendly today
  • [17:18:42] <mru> av500: I should try that some time
  • [17:18:50] <prpplague> mranostay: trying to
  • [17:18:58] * prpplague has some decisions to make
  • [17:19:09] <mru> decisions aren't real
  • [17:19:09] <mranostay> blue pill
  • [17:19:12] <KotH> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/02/printed-magazine/ <- for the gun fanatics here
  • [17:19:13] <av500> left door
  • [17:19:35] <woglinde> red cable
  • [17:20:08] <djlewis> another swig o rum
  • [17:20:35] <av500> KotH: ban assault printers!
  • [17:20:53] <mranostay> that would get me 30 years in California :)
  • [17:21:15] <n7segment> you can check out any time you like
  • [17:21:58] <mranostay> yeah that is called escaping :)
  • [17:22:14] <mdp> KotH: and the humorous thing is that the problems they had in their early versions are not different than the problems one has with various ultra-cheap magazines from random manufacturers
  • [17:23:20] <mdp> KotH: I've seen many people have problems with ultra-cheap mags bought at gun shows..whether it's semi-auto pistols or various rifles..lots of junk out there.
  • [17:23:40] <mru> yes, 90% of everything is crap
  • [17:23:49] <mru> including of the remaining 10%
  • [17:23:51] <mdp> but then civilians don't have the budget of the government purchasers
  • [17:23:52] <mru> recursively
  • [17:24:09] <mdp> nobody ever does that last 10% optimization ;)
  • [17:24:13] <KotH> mdp: i dont know what probs you have...
  • [17:24:33] <KotH> mdp: i can just walk into the next gun shop and buy a 30 rounds mag for a sig550 for 50usd
  • [17:25:07] <KotH> mdp: and banning that magazines larger than a couple of rounds dont really help
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  • [17:25:19] <mdp> KotH: sure, and you can go get a knock-off for 25usd here that may or may not feed reliably...or doesn't latch and drops out of the gun
  • [17:25:21] <KotH> switching mags is a matter of seconds for anyone trained in it
  • [17:25:29] <KotH> mdp: lol
  • [17:25:30] <mdp> KotH: that's my point
  • [17:26:00] <mdp> it's no different than any other goods produced, as mru points out
  • [17:26:11] <KotH> those anti gun fanatics should do some infantry service for 2-3 months
  • [17:26:35] <woglinde> koth and than?
  • [17:26:43] <KotH> woglinde: get some perspective
  • [17:27:01] <woglinde> o.O
  • [17:27:26] <KotH> woglinde: i guess one of the reasons why .ch has so little crime involving guns is because people are trained in the use of guns and know what they can do.. that gives you a lot of respect of these things
  • [17:27:26] <mdp> I'm sticking to the techie talk you can't lure me in on this tangent ;)
  • [17:27:27] <mranostay> O.o
  • [17:27:41] * panto only fired M1s - navy people don't need guns much
  • [17:27:49] <panto> got a kick
  • [17:28:05] <mranostay> panto: wimp :)
  • [17:28:45] <mru> KotH: the uk has much lower gun crime than .ch
  • [17:28:54] <mru> possibly because guns are almost impossible to get
  • [17:28:56] <mranostay> panto: M1 on a ship? that seems impractical :)
  • [17:29:02] <KotH> mru: probably
  • [17:29:06] <mdp> http://defcad.org/
  • [17:29:15] <KotH> mru: until recently, buying guns in .ch was just finding someone who sold you one
  • [17:29:17] <mdp> the tagline is priceless on their new hosting site
  • [17:29:31] <KotH> mru: no other regulations beside being a swiss citizen
  • [17:29:47] <panto> mranostay, guns are just impractical on a ship; that was a shooting range for the infantry guys
  • [17:30:04] <panto> they didn't let us play with actually useful guns
  • [17:30:27] <mru> ships have cannons, no?
  • [17:31:14] <mranostay> panto: short barrel shotguns are little more use in that case :)
  • [17:31:52] <panto> mru, the times of the ships getting into a close enough range to shoot each other with pea-shooters are long gone
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  • [17:32:36] <mranostay> mru: yeah but note there are no battleships anymore
  • [17:33:11] <mru> no, these days they park beyond the horizon and pelt some city from there
  • [17:35:27] <mdp> panto, at least in the .usian use cases, small arms are used "on the ship" in the mission of boarding of ships to enforce the prevailing winds of embargos ;)
  • [17:36:21] <mdp> panto, as my friend who had to board ships at night in the Gulf can attest to
  • [17:36:39] <mranostay> prpplague: you going to start poking everyone here that hasn't submitted slides?
  • [17:36:46] <panto> mdp, true
  • [17:36:55] <prpplague> mranostay: not until tomorrow
  • [17:37:25] <KotH> did anyone here ever work with optical modulation systems?
  • [17:37:40] <mru> I've used a camera shutter...
  • [17:37:52] <mranostay> my company does optical stuffs
  • [17:38:12] <mru> sometimes the outcome is even acceptable
  • [17:38:13] <KotH> modulation as in modulating a laser with a ghz signal
  • [17:38:40] <mranostay> have a question?
  • [17:38:41] <mru> of course KotH isn't on g+ so he doesn't get to see it
  • [17:39:08] <KotH> mranostay: is there an "easy" way to do an I/Q modulation of a laser beam?
  • [17:39:37] <KotH> mranostay: 790nm laser, 4GHz signal bw on I and Q
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  • [17:41:03] <mranostay> over my head :)
  • [17:41:10] <KotH> thought so :)
  • [17:42:06] <KotH> doing amplitude modulation of a laser is easy.. but i can't find anything about I/Q modulation of lasers
  • [17:42:15] <mdp> can we please stay off topic?
  • [17:42:33] <KotH> mdp: i wont be using a beagle, so this is as off topic as it gets
  • [17:42:36] <KotH> ;)
  • [17:42:37] <mdp> ;)
  • [17:42:38] <mru> you heard the man!
  • [17:43:04] <mdp> panto: when do you fly?
  • [17:43:09] <panto> Sunday
  • [17:43:20] * mranostay better get off too work
  • [17:43:21] <mranostay> *to
  • [17:43:33] <mru> work is overrated
  • [17:44:04] <mru> I've been avoiding it all day and I'm still bored
  • [17:44:27] <KotH> did you already finish reading the internet?
  • [17:44:37] <mranostay> yeah can't get fired.. yet.. ;)
  • [17:46:32] <mru> fired, what's that?
  • [17:47:02] <mdp> from a cannon
  • [17:47:20] <mru> that does sound mildly unpleasant
  • [17:47:34] <mru> but I doubt my boss has one
  • [17:47:53] <mdp> lucky
  • [17:48:53] <woglinde> *g*
  • [17:52:34] * KotH wonders how many satelites will die on friday
  • [17:52:51] <mru> what happens on friday?
  • [17:53:10] <KotH> an asteroid will pass by earth.. below the geosync orbit
  • [17:53:19] <mru> oh that
  • [17:56:05] <mru> how does the trajectory compare to actual satellite orbits?
  • [17:56:37] <mru> and can't they move them out of the way if any happen to be in the asteroid's path?
  • [17:57:09] <KotH> no idea
  • [17:58:03] <mru> also, critical systems have backup satellites, usually at a lower orbit in the same plane
  • [17:58:24] <KotH> if it's lower orbit, it's not the same place ;)
  • [17:58:33] <mru> plane, not place
  • [17:58:46] <KotH> ah.. reading is difficult
  • [18:02:33] <mdp> like the astral plane
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  • [18:09:49] <ka6sox> KotH, depends on its orbital inclination relative to the Clarke Belt.
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  • [18:11:27] <ka6sox> the russians haven't been knocking our satellites out of orbit with their Molniya Orbit and it goes lower too.
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  • [18:13:55] <mranostay> KotH: you want to bet on which get hit? :)
  • [18:14:19] <mranostay> ka6sox: space nerd?
  • [18:15:15] <mranostay> prpplague: nice spice girls post
  • [18:15:23] <prpplague> hehe
  • [18:16:03] <KotH> ka6sox: stop that! i'm learning new things here!
  • [18:16:09] <ka6sox> many years ago I built a satellite station in a suitcase...and had to learn orbital mechanics because it was solar powered (and I needed to shut everything off to conserve power)
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  • [18:18:11] <ka6sox> the orbital equations were 2 pages of Fortran code that pooped out whether the satellite was in view or not
  • [18:18:52] * mdp perks up at the mention of Fortran
  • [18:19:36] <mdp> Jacmet: 814x patches posted
  • [18:22:34] <ka6sox> mdp, I had two choices...either contort the model 100 to do it ..or let the 80C52 do it...guess which won?
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  • [18:22:53] <mdp> hehe
  • [18:24:11] <KotH> ka6sox: model 100 ?
  • [18:24:48] <ka6sox> Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100
  • [18:25:06] <mdp> *ahem* "trash-80"
  • [18:25:16] <mdp> we need to remember the proper cutsie names
  • [18:26:00] <ka6sox> CPU Intel 80C85 @ 2.4 MHz
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  • [18:27:53] <ka6sox> vs Intel 80C52-BASIC 12MHz
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  • [18:29:05] <ka6sox> OH NOES!!! I can *still* buy an 80C52-BASIC....
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  • [18:29:53] <mdp> note that only modern processors are throwaway designs ;)
  • [18:30:19] <ka6sox> okay looks like I still have the code for it too...
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  • [18:31:45] <ka6sox> that and $33.95 and I can replicate this...
  • [18:31:56] <CareBear\> mdp : did you publish your 6502 project somewhere besides in the slides?
  • [18:32:28] <mdp> I haven't done a full project page still, no
  • [18:32:42] <mdp> I do have the github page about the sw though
  • [18:32:53] <ka6sox> mmmmmm...6502
  • [18:33:38] <ka6sox> I don't miss counting cycles
  • [18:33:47] <ka6sox> oh wait...I still do..with PRU.
  • [18:34:38] <CareBear\> mdp : I'll attend a retro computing thing on Friday, I want to show them the thing
  • [18:34:42] <CareBear\> thing thing
  • [18:35:09] <ka6sox> mdp, is that this next friday?
  • [18:35:14] <jsabeaudry> I'm getting a wierd issue where if I do 10^8 Write/Read cycles (incrementing the value each time) on the GPMC the heartbeat stops beating...
  • [18:35:33] <mdp> I have do a little elinux work, CareBear\, so I'll try to aggregate everything on a page there before friday
  • [18:35:36] <CareBear\> ka6sox : isn't progress grand!?
  • [18:35:41] <CareBear\> mdp : oh sweet
  • [18:35:43] <mdp> working on slideware for this ELC now :-/
  • [18:35:47] <CareBear\> ack
  • [18:36:12] * ka6sox grumbles about back to back confs :P
  • [18:36:13] * mranostay whips mdp
  • [18:36:30] * mranostay whips panto
  • [18:37:45] * emeb puts mranostay's whip in a locked cabinet.
  • [18:39:14] * ka6sox looks @ the ELC schedule and grumbles he has to be in SOCAL friday :P
  • [18:43:18] * djlewis had to google how to shutdown/restart W8 :(
  • [18:44:02] <emeb> a hammer will take care of shutdown. restart is a problem tho.
  • [18:45:11] <ogra_> that just makes your good HW pay for crappy SW
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  • [18:45:58] <djlewis> customer brought in new w8 laptop pleading us to downgrade(?) to w7
  • [18:46:29] <ka6sox> Metro should only be a Subway
  • [18:46:31] <ogra_> lovely
  • [18:46:36] <emeb> Can't chalk that one up under "Satisfied W8 user"
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  • [18:58:14] <djlewis> looked like an android desktop
  • [18:59:49] <KotH> ka6sox: damn you!
  • [19:00:01] <KotH> ka6sox: now i'm reading wiki pages on space warfare!
  • [19:01:07] <mdp> yes, filled with photon torpedos
  • [19:01:49] <mranostay> ka6sox: $1 bus? :P
  • [19:02:43] <ka6sox> KotH, not my fault! I swear it!
  • [19:03:05] <ka6sox> mranostay, not worth 2bits
  • [19:03:26] <KotH> ka6sox: it is!
  • [19:03:33] * ka6sox thinks that mranostay won't know that...without looking it up on google. :P
  • [19:03:35] <KotH> ka6sox: you set me up on those orbit wiki pages!
  • [19:04:51] <jkridner> koen: did you see my note about flex? Not sure why I have to set the M4 environment variable.
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  • [19:09:04] <woglinde> koth fly to mars
  • [19:09:21] <_av500_> mmmmmars
  • [19:09:57] <woglinde> 30 seconds to mars
  • [19:10:06] <woglinde> I should watch them life
  • [19:10:09] <woglinde> once
  • [19:10:12] <woglinde> ups live
  • [19:21:26] <woglinde> hm
  • [19:21:29] <woglinde> whats now
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  • [19:28:34] <mranostay> prpplague: btw you have no idea how true your post is :)
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  • [19:31:26] <KotH> lol, a town in western australia fined the us gov for litering, after spacelab crashed there
  • [19:31:37] * mthalmei_away is now known as mthalmei
  • [19:31:57] <mranostay> heh
  • [19:32:04] <mranostay> good luck collecting
  • [19:32:14] <KotH> . NASA never paid the debt.[1] The fine was paid in April 2009, when radio show host Scott Barley of Highway Radio raised the funds from his morning show listeners and paid the fine on behalf of NASA.[2]
  • [19:32:28] <mdp> I see you've moved from space warefare to space junk sites ;)
  • [19:33:01] * mranostay senses KotH will get no work done today
  • [19:33:18] * mthalmei is now known as mthalmei_away
  • [19:33:20] <KotH> mranostay: i'm glad that most of my day is already over :)
  • [19:34:25] <mdp> your totally spaced out
  • [19:34:32] <mranostay> +!
  • [19:34:36] <mdp> *you're
  • [19:34:50] * KotH was just about to point that mistake out
  • [19:35:16] <woglinde> mranostay but you are right koth did not finish something
  • [19:36:24] <KotH> hmm.. there was a "verein f?r raumschiffahrt" prior to WWII in germany
  • [19:36:53] <KotH> woglinde: you should recreate that assoc!
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  • [19:38:05] <woglinde> KotH sure "reichsflug scheiben"
  • [19:38:12] <mranostay> everything in german sounds scary
  • [19:38:28] <mru> mranostay: no, some things sound just silly
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  • [19:40:21] <KotH> woglinde: ironsky!
  • [19:40:35] <emeb> sounds like a russian name
  • [19:40:44] <woglinde> emeb?
  • [19:40:49] <KotH> emeb?
  • [19:40:57] <emeb> "Hi, let me introduce you to my friend Nikolai Ironsky"
  • [19:40:59] <KotH> emeb: dont tell me you've not seen ironsky?
  • [19:41:12] <woglinde> koth I have not seen it too
  • [19:41:16] <emeb> KotH: I know what Iron Sky is. Haven't seen it tho.
  • [19:41:27] <KotH> woglinde: then go to the next dvd shop and buy it!
  • [19:41:30] <woglinde> no
  • [19:41:30] <mru> see it
  • [19:41:31] <KotH> woglinde: watch it tonight!
  • [19:41:32] <mru> now
  • [19:41:33] <woglinde> no time
  • [19:41:36] <woglinde> no mood
  • [19:41:36] <mdp> yes
  • [19:41:41] <KotH> it's worth it!
  • [19:41:50] <woglinde> no mood for everything right now
  • [19:41:53] * mru should watch it again
  • [19:41:59] <woglinde> mru now
  • [19:42:01] <KotH> it's a great documentary on the space program of your forefathers!
  • [19:42:03] <mdp> I will watch it again too
  • [19:42:05] <mru> didn't catch all the side jokes first time
  • [19:42:24] <KotH> mru: have you watched it at a cinema?
  • [19:42:27] * emeb likes buried references.
  • [19:42:32] <mru> KotH: only bluray
  • [19:42:38] <KotH> mru: oh.. you should have
  • [19:42:47] <mru> I was away when it showed in the cinema here
  • [19:43:02] <KotH> mru: there were always pockets of laughter when a group got a reference that noone else got
  • [19:43:04] <emeb> Never came to theaters here AFAIK.
  • [19:43:35] <KotH> mru: doh! bad luck
  • [19:43:50] <mru> well, the bluray is good quality
  • [19:44:10] <mru> and my neighbours are tolerant of noise
  • [19:44:16] <emeb> pfft - blueray. that'll never catch on.
  • [19:44:27] <mdp> emeb: there's small screenings...
  • [19:44:44] <mdp> I missed the one in August
  • [19:45:21] <woglinde> koth but I saw sucker punch
  • [19:45:32] <KotH> woglinde: also a good show
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  • [19:48:43] <mranostay> woglinde: i've heard that movie is trippy
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  • [19:49:58] <woglinde> mranostay hm yes it have at least 3 layers
  • [19:50:17] <_av500_> lawyers?
  • [19:50:18] <woglinde> and a lot homage to other movies
  • [19:51:03] <woglinde> and afterwards I wanted to learn more about lobotomy
  • [19:51:30] <_av500_> have one, its relaxing
  • [19:52:30] <woglinde> afterwards yes
  • [19:58:34] <mranostay> woglinde: so like Inception?
  • [20:01:15] <_av500_> interception
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  • [20:03:15] <woglinde> mranostay hm did not watch inception
  • [20:03:28] <panto> back
  • [20:03:41] <mranostay> panto: hey slides dude
  • [20:03:51] * panto grumbles
  • [20:03:59] <panto> I still have tomorrow
  • [20:04:02] <panto> right prpplague?
  • [20:04:05] <_av500_> no
  • [20:04:10] <_av500_> now or you are out
  • [20:04:29] <_av500_> with bimonthly ELC, there are new rules now
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  • [20:07:18] <KotH> woglinde: google for "eispickellobotomie" :)
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  • [20:11:03] <mranostay> even lobotomy is scarier in german
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  • [20:11:29] <jkridner> ping again on Austin in early March. anyone gonna be there at SxSW?
  • [20:12:00] <mranostay> jkridner is so rorely :)
  • [20:12:52] <jkridner> hmm... rorely isn't in urban dictionary. :)
  • [20:14:03] <emeb> ronery?
  • [20:16:24] <koen-> so ronery
  • [20:16:57] <mdp> mranostay marches to his own beat
  • [20:17:44] <_av500_> sound of drums?
  • [20:18:18] <panto> sound of other mranostays in his mind
  • [20:19:46] <mranostay> cute
  • [20:22:16] <panto> look at it from the bright side, you're never lonely
  • [20:22:36] <emeb> or ronery either
  • [20:23:24] <panto> emeb, right, at least one of the mranostays is north-korean
  • [20:24:10] <mranostay> parallel mranostay's
  • [20:24:27] <thurbad> stunt doubles?
  • [20:24:45] <panto> thurbad, no, mranostay does all his one stunts
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  • [20:25:55] <mru> troll doubles
  • [20:26:49] <mranostay> liver doubles more like :P
  • [20:27:52] <KotH> they drink for you?
  • [20:28:12] <mru> presumably
  • [20:28:19] <woglinde> koth as I said I read about it
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  • [20:28:44] <KotH> http://img6.joyreactor.com/pics/post/auto-chelsea-perett-vegan-diet-344716.jpeg
  • [20:28:48] <KotH> woglinde: so ka..
  • [20:29:02] <KotH> woglinde: you're a knowledgable man, my friendly troll
  • [20:38:33] <prpplague> panto: we always have tomorrow
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  • [21:04:21] <Crofton> linaro is taking credit for mru
  • [21:04:45] <_av500_> ?
  • [21:04:46] <mru> what lies are they telling now?
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  • [21:12:26] <wmat> mranostay: you can upload your slide deck to http://elinux.org/ELC_2013_Presentations if you like
  • [21:12:35] <wmat> mranostay: or link to the one from ELCE
  • [21:12:54] <mranostay> wmat: it is already up :)
  • [21:12:58] <_av500_> mranostay: ask for free pizza
  • [21:13:00] <mranostay> just not linked
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  • [21:13:58] <mdp> mranostay, bah, did you sit in the first row in class too?
  • [21:14:07] <wmat> I'm just filling out the presentations page now
  • [21:14:45] <mranostay> mdp: i'm sure i'll get as carefree are you guys by my 5 or presenation
  • [21:14:51] <_av500_> mdp: give the kid some slack
  • [21:15:22] <mranostay> ah thanks _av500_
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  • [22:15:21] <_av500_> hpdroid: http://readwrite.com/2013/02/13/hp-to-adopt-android-for-upcoming-mobile-devices
  • [22:18:32] <woglinde> *g*
  • [22:18:51] <ynezz> sir, can we port it to bone?
  • [22:20:53] <ynezz> who's next, nokia? :p
  • [22:22:33] <_av500_> shhh
  • [22:24:28] <woglinde> not with ellop
  • [22:25:56] <mdp> a bold move choosing the upstart Android technology being pushed by a little known company.
  • [22:25:58] <mdp> bold!
  • [22:26:24] <woglinde> money money
  • [22:26:39] <mdp> follow it
  • [22:26:44] <ynezz> where?
  • [22:27:28] <mdp> to the sores
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  • [22:33:31] <woglinde> gn
  • [22:33:46] <panto> g'night
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  • [22:59:29] <noobihs_> I'm trying to build a custom cape, but I can't figure out how angstrom detects capes, and what it does with that information
  • [22:59:43] <noobihs_> anyone have any search terms i could try. i can't seem to find anything
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  • [23:02:26] <koen-> noobihs_: it's the kernel in angstrom that does the detection
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  • [23:02:40] <koen-> noobihs_, check the kernel sources on github.com/beagleboard/kernel
  • [23:05:43] <noobihs_> ahh. I suppose this means there's not some easy to use "if this id seen, then install this kernel module" system that doesn't require a kernel recompile.
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  • [23:06:24] <koen-> the 3.8 kernel allows that with dt overlays
  • [23:07:38] <noobihs_> that's the type of keyword I was looking for. awesome, thanks!
  • [23:07:49] <mranostay> +!
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  • [23:18:38] <jkridner> I think the only thing missing is a definition of putting the .dtbo in the EEPROM, but that should be easy enough as well.
  • [23:22:40] <mranostay> jkridner: in the EEPROM ?:)
  • [23:22:49] <mranostay> - /lib/firmware rather
  • [23:23:27] <jkridner> in the EEPROM. Hardware ships w/o software changes. not such a novel idea ya know
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  • [23:24:57] <jkridner> Should be fairly easy to patch capemgr. Guess I should submit something.
  • [23:29:34] <mranostay> jkridner: well under there are changes that break you dtbo :)
  • [23:29:36] <mranostay> *your
  • [23:30:03] <jkridner> under there?
  • [23:30:40] <mranostay> *until
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  • [23:30:47] <mranostay> jkridner: low on coffee and sleep
  • [23:30:56] <jkridner> It is fine if the software overrides the .dtbo within the EEPROM, but being able to send hardware that "just works" is critical to a good user experience.
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  • [23:31:24] <jkridner> it doesn't "just work" if step #1 is to update your software image.
  • [23:31:52] <jkridner> bbiab (dinner time)
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  • [23:34:01] <prpplague> dinner is for loosers
  • [23:34:39] <mranostay> prpplague: be nice to him he is from MI after all.. that is bad enough :P
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  • [23:39:52] <mranostay> wmat: no elinux Harlam Shake?
  • [23:40:25] <wmat> heh
  • [23:40:35] <wmat> mranostay: depends on how many beer you buy me
  • [23:40:45] <prpplague> (and rum)
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  • [23:46:28] <koen-> jkridner: no need to update the complete image, just drop you dtbo into /lib/firmware
  • [23:51:15] <mranostay> prpplague: wmat: how much are we talking? :)
  • [23:51:23] <Russ> joel_, nice slides, but they probably don't need to be "Maximum Restrictions"
  • [23:51:43] <prpplague> mranostay: psh, we are old drinkers, you'd go broke
  • [23:51:54] <Russ> I was thinking of doing a harlem shake video
  • [23:52:08] <Russ> it would start out with just me, then the bass would drop
  • [23:52:11] * prpplague points to +mr
  • [23:52:15] * prpplague points to mranostay
  • [23:52:16] <Russ> and it would still be just me
  • [23:52:21] <prpplague> arg, g+ typo
  • [23:53:04] <Russ> 'Apparently it's "Bitchley".'
  • [23:53:35] <prpplague> Russ: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/B5mXW4wTFEw
  • [23:53:42] <prpplague> Russ: hehe
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