• [00:00:13] <mru> KotH: ^^ google has your picture, like it or not :)
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  • [00:12:33] <mranostay> hehe
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  • [00:14:06] <mranostay> looks like fun
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  • [00:34:32] <mru> mranostay: it was
  • [00:34:46] <mru> too much fun
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  • [00:42:54] <mranostay> mru: no such thing as too much fun
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  • [01:01:47] <CareBear\> Kristina : maybe you can use mtools
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  • [03:46:37] <mrpackethead> any genius'es here
  • [03:46:53] <mrpackethead> who can help me out with a question on the PWM stuff
  • [03:48:43] <mranostay> i play one on IRC
  • [03:52:46] <toneeee> Beagle Genius, wrong bar
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  • [03:55:52] <mrpackethead> the genius at the apple-store did'nt have any idea.
  • [03:55:53] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [04:00:02] <thurbad> those guys barely know macs sometimes
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  • [04:01:57] <mranostay> you need a degree to a be an Apple Genius?
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  • [04:12:04] <coldsoup|work> and they don't have beer. What kind of lousy bar doesn't have beer?
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  • [04:37:36] <prpplague> coldsoup|work: bars in barcelona?
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  • [04:43:39] <mranostay> prpplague: updating the elinux page a bit
  • [04:43:52] <prpplague> mranostay: dandy
  • [04:44:28] <prpplague> mranostay: let me know what you need on the cards, a tinyurl with your resume would be good
  • [04:46:30] <mranostay> koen: circuitco have a booth this year?
  • [04:48:25] <prpplague> mranostay: i think they ordered either a beagle or octopus costume for koen to wear at the booth, not sure which
  • [04:48:44] <mranostay> heh
  • [04:49:23] <mranostay> what is prpplague's email anyway?
  • [04:50:26] <prpplague> dave@youratbastard.com
  • [04:50:42] <prpplague> or plague@pimpmaster.net
  • [04:52:13] <mranostay> the sad thing is one of those is registered :)
  • [04:52:18] <prpplague> mranostay: and if you are a friend you can reach me at allyourbeersaremine@ti.com
  • [04:52:40] <prpplague> *cough*
  • [04:52:51] <mranostay> heh a friend on mine has beer.org
  • [04:52:51] <prpplague> mranostay: i commented to mdp today
  • [04:53:15] <mranostay> sorry beeronline.org
  • [04:53:21] <prpplague> mranostay: there seems to be an Ashley S. Holes that has a TI address
  • [04:53:35] <prpplague> mranostay: asholes@ti.com
  • [04:53:50] <mranostay> hehe
  • [04:54:19] <mranostay> are emails assigned at TI?
  • [04:54:19] <prpplague> please don't ask me how i found that out
  • [04:54:41] <mranostay> that seems like a HR issue if it was
  • [04:54:57] * prpplague has no comment
  • [04:55:20] <mrpackethead> what was wrong with firstname.lastname@domain.tld
  • [04:55:33] <mranostay> better than FSL's personal employee number one
  • [04:55:48] <mranostay> nothing like emailing es123455@fsl.com
  • [04:56:05] <mrpackethead> i used to be AFW647@namelessgovernmentagency.govt.nz
  • [04:56:12] <Russ> a0220770@ti.com
  • [04:56:29] <mranostay> as long as isn't my social security number i couldn't really care
  • [04:56:44] <prpplague> hehe
  • [04:57:49] <mranostay> i loved my first crappy job you had to enter your SSN to clock in and out...
  • [04:59:26] <mranostay> even at 17 i knew that was a bad idea :)
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  • [05:40:49] <mranostay> hi KotH
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  • [05:44:18] <mranostay> Kristina: how is it in Darwin world?
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  • [06:03:48] <ds2> is there a linux-arm channel? if not, anyone know what is the min number of ATAGs that needs to be setup?
  • [06:07:29] <mranostay> ATAGs?
  • [06:07:46] <mrpackethead> mranostay: ATAGs?
  • [06:08:07] <ds2> ARM bootloader info
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  • [06:16:50] <Russ> aren't ATAGs going away?
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  • [07:27:25] <ka6sox-away> is there a node.js type image for the xM and original Bboard too?
  • [07:27:36] <ka6sox-away> (or am I so fixated on the 'Bone)
  • [07:31:36] <mranostay> ka6sox-away: you mean the cloud9 crap?
  • [07:34:51] <ka6sox-away> that stuffa
  • [07:35:49] * Russ file:///
  • [07:36:02] * Russ or is it File:///
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  • [07:37:12] <emeb_mac> trying to troll the mac os mtn lion users?
  • [07:37:20] <Russ> yup
  • [07:37:31] <Russ> makes me wonder what other injection attacks there are
  • [07:39:41] <koen> ka6sox-away: just opkg install it
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  • [07:41:17] <ka6sox-away> koen, ya...
  • [07:41:29] <ka6sox-away> have to try the other FPGA board for the Beagle
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  • [07:53:10] <mrpackethead> file://///
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  • [08:05:22] <KotH> JIHAD!
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  • [08:06:29] <ka6sox-away> morning gazpacho
  • [08:06:41] <mranostay> yeah i'm not having a jihad
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  • [08:07:03] * ka6sox-away bangs pots and pans outside mranostay's apt.
  • [08:08:06] * mranostay loads the .357
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  • [08:11:02] <mranostay> KotH: they let you have a gun? :)
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  • [08:15:00] <KotH> mranostay: ofc
  • [08:15:29] <KotH> mranostay: every good swiss citizen has a full automatic assault rifle, a couple of hand granades and an RPG at home
  • [08:17:35] <dm8tbr> and that kids, is why nobody ever messes with the swiss...
  • [08:18:40] <KotH> as a usian friend put it so nicely a couple of years ago: neutral but heavily armed
  • [08:20:29] <KotH> mru: send urls for thoese g+ challenged :)
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  • [08:33:04] <mrpackethead> KotH: you also don't have a highly disfunctional society, with vast divides between rich and poor
  • [08:33:57] <keesj> anybody doing automated testing of builds on the beagle? I wonder how they put the image on the SD card( u-boot DFU, u-boot network boot, linux gadget mass storage?)
  • [08:34:31] <mrpackethead> yes
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  • [08:36:40] <keesj> mrpackethead: yes as answer to my question?
  • [08:37:04] <mrpackethead> yes. someone will be testing it
  • [08:37:18] <mrpackethead> someone is testing almost everything
  • [08:38:13] <keesj> I mean I have build (of MINIX) and I want to put them on the beagle when building the thing with jenkins.
  • [08:38:24] <koen> keesj: the loading of SD cards isn't automated yet over here
  • [08:38:29] <koen> keesj: I should hire an intern :)
  • [08:39:22] <keesj> I have so many option to choose from.
  • [08:40:22] <keesj> I do have the reset and serial connected so I can do most things. uploading a MMC exporting kernel via JTAG is also an option
  • [08:40:29] <koen> for kernel testing I use tftp in uboot
  • [08:40:47] <koen> recent uboots can write to SD *and* can load images larger than RAM over usb
  • [08:40:59] <keesj> yes for the kernel (my dev setup does that)
  • [08:41:38] <keesj> using DFU or some tftp options?
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  • [08:41:42] <keesj> brb
  • [08:41:50] <koen> DFU
  • [08:42:12] <koen> tftp still requieres a load address
  • [08:43:46] <KotH> mrpackethead: our society might not be higly dysfunctional, but there are huge devides between rich an poor, and not everything works as it should
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  • [08:46:31] <mrpackethead> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
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  • [08:49:33] <KotH> mrpackethead: argument accepted :)
  • [08:51:45] <ds2> if youa re on the bleeding edge...
  • [08:52:33] * KotH is on the coughing edge
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  • [09:14:40] <_av500_> lol
  • [09:14:41] <_av500_> me too
  • [09:15:09] * dm8tbr is fine
  • [09:15:51] <keesj> koen: I stated enabling DFU in u-boot (mainline) I will continue in that direction
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  • [09:46:38] <XorA> morning
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  • [10:00:50] <LetoThe2nd> XorA: moinmoin
  • [10:01:45] <XorA> LetoThe2nd: I know what you look like now :-D
  • [10:02:08] <LetoThe2nd> hrhr
  • [10:02:31] <LetoThe2nd> XorA: i consider that a threat, bu i can say the same about you ;)
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  • [10:09:59] <bb__> I have an ARM dstream with me. I want to use it with beagleboard xM. Is there a need for boot to happen i.e. valid image in SD card to work with JTAG?
  • [10:10:46] <LetoThe2nd> interesting how that was a pandaboard question just 30seconds ago ;)
  • [10:11:10] <bb__> well I have both boards
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  • [10:11:29] <panto> gm
  • [10:12:28] <LetoThe2nd> i don't know if the omaps can be made to run stuff directly from ram to which you could inject through jtag.
  • [10:12:41] <LetoThe2nd> (TRM would know, so look it up)
  • [10:13:10] <bb__> Okay . TRM of OMAPs right?
  • [10:13:57] <LetoThe2nd> would be my first guess, yes.
  • [10:14:34] <LetoThe2nd> maybe they can even stop right after hardware reset and then be pointed to some MLO in ram, it's not unheard of.
  • [10:14:37] <koen> LetoThe2nd: you do realize that xora lives on an island in the sea, right?
  • [10:14:39] <keesj> bb__: code composer studio knows how to initialize the hardware and does not really need u-boot.
  • [10:14:48] <koen> LetoThe2nd: that is deadly to the spirit of a fedaykin
  • [10:14:59] <koen> LetoThe2nd: ask Otheum
  • [10:15:09] <keesj> indeed the "easy" thing to do it to not boot past u-boot
  • [10:15:22] <LetoThe2nd> bb__: but again, the manuals of omap and your jtag should know.
  • [10:15:27] <LetoThe2nd> koen: indeed.
  • [10:15:44] <LetoThe2nd> koen: thanks for the hint, i will be better off sending fishspeakers ;)
  • [10:15:47] <koen> LetoThe2nd: try sending fish speakers
  • [10:15:51] <_av500_> hint: GEL files
  • [10:15:52] <LetoThe2nd> \o/
  • [10:15:53] <koen> *jinx*
  • [10:16:14] <keesj> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenOCD#GDB_ARM might also be of interest
  • [10:16:48] <LetoThe2nd> koen: great minds, alike and such.
  • [10:17:23] * XorA hoards his thinking machines stash!
  • [10:17:47] * LetoThe2nd likes thinking machines.
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  • [10:18:02] <LetoThe2nd> i even got some to transcribe my thoughts, you know.
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  • [10:33:25] <_av500_> wow, a koen rant
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  • [10:37:56] <panto> koen, someone pissed in your cereal this morning? :)
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  • [10:41:10] <_av500_> I dont get autotools, why do I need to auto the auto if everything is supposed to be auto(matic)?
  • [10:42:50] <Bisqwit> Is an automobile then an oxymoron?
  • [10:44:07] <KotH> not if you see the driver as an integral and inseperable part of it
  • [10:44:15] <tsjsieb> goodmorning
  • [10:47:32] <_av500_> maybe auto in tools is like democratic in a country name
  • [10:49:58] <koen> panto: I haven't had breakfast yet, so I'm cranky due to low blood sugar
  • [10:50:21] <_av500_> have some waflles
  • [10:50:45] <panto> koen, it's almost lunch time, burning the midnight oil?
  • [10:51:11] <koen> no, I lack the motivation to make breakfast
  • [10:51:15] <koen> post FOSDEM cold
  • [10:52:03] <panto> poor guy
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  • [11:00:08] <tsjsieb> ah, so I thought it was a thunderstorm here this night, but it was Koen being grumphy...
  • [11:00:47] <KotH> koen: oh... av500 got you hooked up with some nice little creatures as well
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  • [11:12:35] <ynezz> Hm, does anyone here know how does kickstarter work (or has some experience with it)? Particulary I would like to know, if I would get some kind of invoice for the payment made.
  • [11:16:10] <koen> ynezz: not really
  • [11:16:17] <koen> ynezz: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/images/ks.png
  • [11:16:36] <ynezz> hmpf, bummer
  • [11:16:58] <_av500_> ynezz: use a cayman trust
  • [11:17:05] <ynezz> but it must be some legal entity, since it's quite a lot of money there...
  • [11:17:25] <koen> ynezz: it uses amazon as backend
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  • [11:18:19] <koen> ynezz: keep in mind that both KS and amazon are very US focussed
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  • [11:18:33] <koen> so your 'payment' might not get accepted
  • [11:18:48] <ynezz> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1085541682/bladerf-usb-30-software-defined-radio
  • [11:18:55] <koen> which is why indiegogo is so poopular outside the US
  • [11:18:58] <ynezz> there's "Add $15 for int. shipping"
  • [11:19:10] <ynezz> so I assume, that it's international
  • [11:20:37] <koen> well, read the small print :)
  • [11:20:50] <koen> the 'inventors' are happy to send you the bladerf
  • [11:21:00] <_av500_> bladder?
  • [11:21:05] <koen> amazon might bounce your payment for being foreign
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  • [11:21:36] <koen> they changed the rules a few months ago, I haven't backed anything in that time, so I can't say for sure
  • [11:22:11] <ynezz> anyway thanks
  • [11:25:35] <ynezz> oh, I've missed that note about #bladerf IRC channel :P
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  • [11:59:00] <keesj> I am still only experimenting with the DVBT dongles (e.g. capture only)
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  • [12:05:31] <KotH> keesj: trying to build an SDR beagle?
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  • [12:08:04] <keesj> I was indeed tempted.
  • [12:08:47] <keesj> I also ported the rdl-sdr stuff to my Galaxy SII in the hope I could spend some quality time during my holiday :p
  • [12:09:18] <KotH> on holidays, i would rather spend some quality time with people i like than with some weird gadget ;)
  • [12:09:39] <keesj> that's what I endded up doing . but it was not intentional
  • [12:10:05] <keesj> walking around the city looking for strange signals sounds fun
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  • [12:10:30] <KotH> tin foil hat?
  • [12:11:24] <mru> KotH: https://plus.google.com/photos/101083367758063442977/albums/5841243477784505553
  • [12:11:26] <keesj> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.v1al&hl=en (Android app that can connect to a server)
  • [12:19:46] <ynezz> keesj: unfortunately for my purposes the rtl-sdr has low bandwith, but it's certainly amazing bang for the bucks
  • [12:20:25] * KotH feels watched
  • [12:21:26] <KotH> at least the pictures are not too bad
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  • [12:22:41] <keesj> ynezz: for now it greatly helped me in understanding how it all works (and if I have the skilzzzz required). balint's gnuradio tutorial series where also nice http://www.youtube.com/playlist?feature=g-user-u&list=PL618122BD66C8B3C4 . the bone might be a nice base station
  • [12:23:02] <ynezz> oh, since when has mru the iphone?
  • [12:23:25] <mru> ynezz: I don't
  • [12:23:28] <mru> never have, never will
  • [12:23:40] <ynezz> the exifs says so :(
  • [12:24:12] <mru> they say canon 7d here
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  • [12:26:35] <KotH> ynezz: how can you insult mru so severely?!?
  • [12:26:48] <mru> that's not an insult
  • [12:26:53] <mru> it's too implausible
  • [12:30:47] <koen> well
  • [12:31:03] <koen> the plausible explanation: FATE test client
  • [12:31:18] <mru> I wouldn't be the one doing that
  • [12:31:36] <mru> even going near apple stuff gives me a bad rash
  • [12:31:59] <koen> a rashberry pi ?
  • [12:34:04] <_av500_> iRash
  • [12:34:26] <_av500_> koen: the $25 rpi is it a $35-rpi killer?
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  • [12:38:05] <ynezz> KotH: it simply looked like from the iphone and I've checked the exif on one photo, and guess what...
  • [12:38:18] <ynezz> KotH: he simply forget to replace the exif on that one
  • [12:48:45] <koen> libreoffice fosdem presentation slide 15: translating german comment into english: 20kloc done, 20kloc to go
  • [12:50:38] <Crofton|work> damn it, I am catchin gthe FOSDEM lurgi
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  • [12:58:37] <KotH> koen: lol
  • [12:58:44] <KotH> koen: still so much left from stardivision?
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  • [13:12:16] <koen> KotH: apperently
  • [13:15:52] <KotH> koen: are the slides for the talks already online?
  • [13:24:06] <koen> some of them
  • [13:24:24] <koen> the ones that are online are on the author's websites
  • [13:25:27] <KotH> ok
  • [13:25:37] * KotH has a head ache
  • [13:25:40] * KotH blames av500
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  • [13:29:32] <panto> KotH, shouldn't you blame the greek guy instead?
  • [13:29:51] <KotH> no, this time it was the serbs!
  • [13:29:58] <panto> almost the same thing! :P
  • [13:40:38] <jackmitchell> so, suggestions, what do you think the best way to accept input to a driver would be if I needed to pass it a register number, and two 8 bit numbers
  • [13:41:03] <jackmitchell> it currently has dev nodes, and I read from them, so could also write to them
  • [13:41:22] <jackmitchell> I used ioctls in my old driver, but they always feel a bit messy
  • [13:41:45] <jackmitchell> however writing regnum,num1,num2 and splitting on commas would also be pretty disgusting
  • [13:42:32] <panto> first of all thing if there's any other higher level abstraction in the kernel that might work instead of raw register numbers
  • [13:42:38] <panto> *thing=think
  • [13:42:55] <panto> i.e., something like iio or hwmon or anything like that
  • [13:43:15] <panto> if you're doing something completely custom, just go with a sysfs file
  • [13:43:23] <panto> (and you don't care about speed)
  • [13:43:32] <panto> if you do care about speed, things can get complicated
  • [13:43:35] <jackmitchell> yes, it's a custom asic
  • [13:43:44] <jackmitchell> speed, not massively important
  • [13:43:56] <jackmitchell> sub 5ms would be perfectly acceptable
  • [13:43:58] <panto> go with a sysfs attribute file then
  • [13:44:38] <panto> try to see if you can use a somewhat better abstraction that raw register numbers if possible
  • [13:44:44] <jackmitchell> ok will do some research, thanks again panto, the driver is really coming together now and is looking good
  • [13:44:53] * panto bows
  • [13:45:37] <panto> note that sysfs is much faster than 5ms
  • [13:45:54] <jackmitchell> yeah the raw registers are abstracted in the application, there are too many to do it in kernel and the driver is "multi-driver" for multiple cards with different amounts of registers
  • [13:45:55] <panto> the problem with sysfs file is that you can't pump too much data easily
  • [13:46:09] <jackmitchell> yes, i'm not pumping mass amounts of data through
  • [13:46:14] <panto> you'll be fine then
  • [13:46:23] <jackmitchell> just config changes, which are few and far between
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  • [13:48:02] <panto> i.e. config = <0x10 0x00>, <0x11, 0xfe>, ...
  • [13:48:47] <jackmitchell> yeah it's a bit more convoluted unfortunately
  • [13:49:01] <jackmitchell> although I wish it wasn't, it's how it is
  • [13:49:43] <panto> I'm sure that it's going to be more easier if you did came up with a way to use DT for that
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  • [13:50:00] <panto> that's what it was designed to do after all
  • [13:56:29] <jackmitchell> well, as an example I have ~50 16 bit registers, which have single bits all meaning different things, so that's potentially (50*16) entries - which I need to be able to modify from within my application
  • [13:58:43] <jackmitchell> so the configuration is dynamically set and changed while it's running, if I were to have devicetree entries for them how would I then expose them, sysfs files for each entry? or something else?
  • [13:59:44] <XorA> sounds like thats ideal for sysfs
  • [14:00:36] <jackmitchell> so I would have a sysfs file for each configuration?
  • [14:00:47] <XorA> sysfs file per register
  • [14:00:51] <XorA> with get/sets
  • [14:01:04] <jackmitchell> ok, I'm going to read more about the capabilities of sysfs first
  • [14:01:10] <jackmitchell> before I embarrass myself
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  • [14:01:21] <XorA> sysfs is supposed to be one file one value type
  • [14:01:28] <jackmitchell> ok
  • [14:01:50] <XorA> why debugfs was invented so dump register dumps and such like
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  • [14:49:31] <jackmitchell> ah man, that bit of research on sysfs has blown my mind
  • [14:51:08] * XorA gets the superglue ready
  • [14:51:38] <jackmitchell> reading about the uevents started popping some mad ideas into my head
  • [14:52:01] <jackmitchell> and suddenly made possible previously dismissed mad ideas possible again
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  • [14:54:51] <mru> mranostay: HIDE!
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  • [15:59:33] <mranostay> mru: what am i'm hiding from?
  • [15:59:44] <jackmitchell> ok, reading about sysfs I have come to a question
  • [15:59:57] <mru> mranostay: from kkeller of course
  • [16:00:18] <kkeller> I stalk him on other channels too :D
  • [16:00:19] <jackmitchell> I currently expose my fpga data, which comes in batches once a second, every second through /dev/fpga
  • [16:00:51] <jackmitchell> to get the data, you can do a read which blocks until the next set of data is available (in the form of a queue)
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  • [16:01:14] <jackmitchell> if the userspace is slow to react, then it will buffer data until userspace catches up
  • [16:01:26] <jackmitchell> this way you don't lose any data until the queue is completely full
  • [16:01:34] <mru> something involving mmap would seem like a better solution
  • [16:01:57] <jackmitchell> how would you represent the queue style data buffer with mmap?
  • [16:02:06] * mru points at v4l2
  • [16:02:21] * jackmitchell plods off to google
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  • [16:07:29] <mru> kkeller: be careful, mranostay wields creeper cards
  • [16:10:34] <kkeller> that is an understatement !
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  • [16:11:34] <mru> mranostay, the grim creeper?
  • [16:11:41] <mru> mranostay, the grim creeper?]
  • [16:12:10] <Kristina> Yesterday's omap3 endeavours were not successful.
  • [16:12:53] <Kristina> Although to be fair, that's what I get for being too lazy to set up ice.
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  • [16:47:15] <mranostay> uh oh ka6sox is here
  • [16:47:52] <ka6sox> jsabeaudry, you here?
  • [16:48:02] <ka6sox> mranostay, ssssssh...still waking up.
  • [16:48:39] <mranostay> ka6sox: HEY WAKE UP!
  • [16:49:12] * ka6sox spills Hot Coffee on mranostay
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  • [16:50:08] <mranostay> why is that in caps?
  • [16:50:44] <_av500_> jackmitchell: what mru means is you could mmap a couple of buffers for your driver
  • [16:50:59] <_av500_> then you could submit them to be filled and retrieve them once they are
  • [16:51:15] <_av500_> of course assuming you have something like a fixed buffer size
  • [16:51:52] <_av500_> much like the QBUF and DQBUF ioctls in v4l2
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  • [16:53:04] <XorA> yo prpplague
  • [16:53:13] <mru> it's purple!!
  • [16:53:15] <prpplague> XorA: hey bud
  • [16:53:53] <_av500_> it's a plague!!
  • [16:53:54] <mranostay> my eyes are bleeding from the all the purple
  • [16:54:07] <_av500_> mranostay: upgraded your VT100?
  • [16:54:08] <XorA> prpplague: I may have had a beer or two!
  • [16:54:17] <prpplague> hehe
  • [16:54:46] <prpplague> i am more blue than purple these days :(
  • [16:55:27] * XorA stuffs prpplague in the machine with some dylon!
  • [16:55:48] <mranostay> everyone give prpplague a hug
  • [16:55:53] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [16:59:45] <prpplague> i am beginning to think my purple tie is scaring the interviewers
  • [17:00:33] <mranostay> do you want to work at place that doesn't allow purple?
  • [17:02:17] <prpplague> indeed
  • [17:03:24] <jackmitchell> _av500_: yes I had a little look and it may be something I will come back to, but for now I'm happy with my streamed read
  • [17:03:53] <jackmitchell> _av500_: I'm trying to figure out how to do the writes properly and then at a later date I may re-visit and do a v3
  • [17:04:11] <_av500_> sure
  • [17:04:24] <jackmitchell> I'm still investigating the best way to write 3 values to a driver, without a ioctl
  • [17:04:42] <_av500_> why not ioctl?
  • [17:04:55] <_av500_> if you do read/write from a program anyway
  • [17:05:01] <_av500_> you can as well ioctl
  • [17:05:05] <jackmitchell> I used ioctls before and it felt a bit hacky, everyone is raving about sysfs so I was seeing if it was possible for this purpose
  • [17:05:13] <_av500_> ??
  • [17:05:25] <_av500_> I dont see why that is hacky
  • [17:05:36] <_av500_> as IOCTL says, it CTRLs the IO
  • [17:05:43] <_av500_> your io is read/write
  • [17:05:48] <_av500_> and you control it
  • [17:05:48] <jackmitchell> ioctls are still a valid kernel interface, I always get the feeling they;re being phasd out
  • [17:05:56] <_av500_> er?
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  • [17:06:10] <_av500_> ioctly are bound to a driver instance
  • [17:06:15] <_av500_> how do you do that from sysfs?
  • [17:06:21] <_av500_> ioctls*
  • [17:06:29] <jackmitchell> if I'm being daft and listening to too much hype then I'll get on and use them
  • [17:06:30] <mdp> _av500_: ioctls are unethical
  • [17:06:55] <_av500_> so are drone strikes
  • [17:07:04] <mdp> whut?!?
  • [17:07:31] <_av500_> mdp: did I miss a memo wrt ioctls?
  • [17:07:42] <mru> they are replaced by systemd
  • [17:08:28] <_av500_> ioctld
  • [17:09:00] <mdp> _av500_: blast from the past: http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/ioctl.html
  • [17:09:04] <mranostay> does systemd have an email client yet?
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  • [17:10:00] <_av500_> mdp: the last line says it all: "Let's not take this too far, though."
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  • [17:10:17] <_av500_> mranostay: working on it
  • [17:10:19] <mdp> I can assure you..that was forgotten ;)
  • [17:10:22] <_av500_> first it needs glib
  • [17:10:42] <mranostay> prpplague: btw nobody wears a suit for a job interview out here :)
  • [17:11:17] <mranostay> dressing up for an interview for me is a polo :)
  • [17:11:54] <mru> dressing up for me is wearing a t-shirt I paid for
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  • [17:13:17] <mranostay> mru: +!
  • [17:13:20] <mranostay> *+1
  • [17:17:16] <jackmitchell> mdp: so, if you had to pass 3 related values to a kernel driver, what would be your preferred method?
  • [17:17:36] <mru> ioctl(struct foo)
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  • [17:18:08] <mdp> jackmitchell: you confuse me with somebody that cares about the things I cite ;)
  • [17:18:26] <mdp> I find it mostly to be semantics
  • [17:18:29] <jackmitchell> hah, ok. IOCTL's it is
  • [17:18:42] <jackmitchell> the only other method I can think of is 3 sysfs files and a sync file
  • [17:18:46] <mdp> sounds like a wise choice
  • [17:19:05] <mdp> although unethical ;)
  • [17:19:40] <jackmitchell> yes, parsing my registers in userspace is too, but I've come to live with that
  • [17:19:42] <mdp> you probably cross compile without concern for the children too
  • [17:20:50] <jackmitchell> I cross compile all day long; no issues with the kittens lost
  • [17:21:48] <prpplague> mranostay: yea i noticed that
  • [17:23:11] <mdp> jackmitchell: well, they've been citing you on our local news as the cause of several puppies dying
  • [17:23:14] <mdp> I cannot condone your actions
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  • [17:29:08] <mdp> linux4sam seems to be popular on g+ today
  • [17:35:11] <mru> linux4unclesam?
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  • [17:37:43] <mdp> yes, it wants *you*
  • [17:38:53] <woglinde> joho
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  • [17:53:30] <mranostay> heh
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  • [18:03:00] <Taimur_> Hi to all, my beaglebone just stopped working. Its led flashes once but thats all i get. Can someone help me find a quick solution to this problem?
  • [18:04:04] <mranostay> heh
  • [18:04:08] <mranostay> SD card in?
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  • [18:07:10] <Taimur> Hi to all, my beaglebone just stopped working. Its led flashes once but thats all i get. Can someone help me find a quick solution to this problem?
  • [18:07:18] <Taimur> and yes sd card is inserted
  • [18:08:21] <dm8tbr> are you connected to the serial port of the board?
  • [18:08:32] <dm8tbr> how are you powering the board?
  • [18:08:58] <Taimur> by giving it 5v from dc source
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  • [18:09:44] <Taimur> by giving it 5v from dc source
  • [18:09:54] <mranostay> yes don't repeat :)
  • [18:11:12] <djlewis> did you measure that 5v to verify it is 5v?
  • [18:11:38] <mru> and did you verify the meter by measuring something else that's 5V?
  • [18:11:42] <mru> and so on
  • [18:11:50] <djlewis> :)
  • [18:12:02] <djlewis> and where is my pizza?
  • [18:12:08] <dm8tbr> 18:08:21< dm8tbr> are you connected to the serial port of the board?
  • [18:12:10] <Taimur> yes ofcourse ...
  • [18:12:31] <mru> djlewis: you'll have to bitbang it
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  • [18:13:29] <mranostay> hot bitbanging action
  • [18:14:10] <Taimur> i dont get bitbang
  • [18:14:31] <djlewis> my bits are getting stuck in the cheese
  • [18:14:35] <dm8tbr> Taimur: 18:12:08< dm8tbr> 18:08:21< dm8tbr> are you connected to the serial port of the board?
  • [18:14:49] <mranostay> heh
  • [18:15:56] <Taimur> not connected to serial port
  • [18:17:26] <mdp> oh man, "The Ethics of Bitbanging"
  • [18:17:27] <mdp> hrm
  • [18:17:32] <mdp> missed opportunity on that one
  • [18:18:07] * dm8tbr has a business idea: bangwithbits
  • [18:18:29] <Taimur> i was trying to run bldc motor by l6236 IC, after sometime beaglebone just stopped responding. made sure that encoder pulses generated were not more than 3.3v by placing a zenor.
  • [18:19:03] <mranostay> mdp: as speakers i think we are breaking a few rules
  • [18:19:45] <mdp> I consider creeper cards to be rewards
  • [18:19:50] * mdp crafts slides accordingly
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  • [18:21:08] <mru> what's prohibited, bitbanging or exact steps?
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  • [18:38:36] <djlewis> Taimur: you may have gotten some voltage / current feedback for the motor
  • [18:38:49] <djlewis> s/for/from
  • [18:39:11] <mru> evil reactive loads
  • [18:39:25] <djlewis> yess, evil indeed
  • [18:40:08] * djlewis uses optical isolation to drive and monitor motors
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  • [18:53:14] <Taimur> well it seems a bit lengthy task to isolate 16 pins; can bb still work since it not completely dead i.e power led flashes once
  • [18:54:04] <mranostay> heh well that doesn't mean it isn't dead :)
  • [18:54:23] <mru> it's undead
  • [18:54:26] <mru> run
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  • [19:00:16] <Taimur> :D
  • [19:01:04] <Taimur> so what to do now?
  • [19:02:20] <djlewis> doesnt the next step require a chicken?
  • [19:02:46] <mru> you think that's enough?
  • [19:03:06] <mru> sometimes it's quicker to skip directly to goat
  • [19:03:18] <djlewis> this may be that case
  • [19:04:22] * djlewis goes looking for candles
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  • [19:11:12] <panto> dinner
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  • [19:13:57] <Taimur> so what should i do with undead beaglebone?
  • [19:14:10] * bradfa got his load average down from > 100 to about 1.5 with same functionality
  • [19:14:13] * bradfa is happy now
  • [19:14:30] <mru> bradfa: what did you do? kill pulseaudio?
  • [19:14:37] <mdp> bradfa, reboot?
  • [19:15:01] <bradfa> well, it just crashed, so I was excited a bit early...
  • [19:15:09] <djlewis> bradfa: turned it off?
  • [19:15:10] <bradfa> but good guesses :)
  • [19:15:18] <mdp> quit using Cloud9 and Eclipse for devel
  • [19:15:29] <bradfa> multi threading, now we have pr 8 le. s
  • [19:15:56] <bradfa> mdp, eclipse would be faster than something?
  • [19:16:28] <bradfa> er
  • [19:16:33] <bradfa> reading isn't my strong point
  • [19:16:38] <bradfa> code apparently isn't either
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  • [19:18:18] <bradfa> it's probably not a good thing that syslog is growing by MB every few seconds...
  • [19:18:21] <bradfa> logging!
  • [19:20:13] <bradfa> rsyslog using >30% cpu, ftw
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  • [19:26:36] <mdp> bradfa, is your intern involved here somehow?
  • [19:30:19] <bradfa> sadly, no
  • [19:30:20] <bradfa> just me
  • [19:30:29] <bradfa> I was an intern, once
  • [19:30:56] <bradfa> spawning a thread every 1.5 ms in order to do libcurl operations makes quite a high load :)
  • [19:31:27] <bradfa> hence, libcurl people made the multi interface
  • [19:31:38] <bradfa> so now I use the multi
  • [19:31:47] <bradfa> voila! reasonable loads
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  • [19:59:05] <_av500_> just use journald
  • [20:00:38] <woglinde> hehe
  • [20:00:48] <woglinde> av500 on lennart trip
  • [20:01:14] <mranostay> is that a drug now?
  • [20:01:45] <Russ> hasn't it always been?
  • [20:01:59] <panto> good night
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  • [20:35:59] <mranostay> bradfa: new interns for abuse?
  • [20:36:10] <bradfa> no, still have same one
  • [20:36:17] <bradfa> they're "coops" from RIT
  • [20:36:22] <bradfa> so they stay for a few months
  • [20:36:40] <_av500_> bradfa: are you downloading the internet?
  • [20:36:47] <_av500_> for later reading?
  • [20:37:08] <mranostay> bradfa: last legal form of slavery :)
  • [20:37:36] <mdp> mranostay, you wouldn't think that if you saw out IBM co-op paychecks ;)
  • [20:37:42] <mdp> s/out/our/
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  • [20:41:44] <cmicali> hello - has anyone successfully gotten the McSPI controller to be clocked by an external clock (slave mode?) I need a SPI clock rate that is not a multiple of 48mhz (40mhz) and was wondering if anyone has been successful doing something similar
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  • [20:42:01] <mdp> glorious bejeebers! booted omap3-beagle from mainline without asking for exact steps
  • [20:42:17] <mranostay> heh
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  • [20:46:54] <bradfa> _av500_, more like uploading the internet, all curl opts are POST
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  • [20:54:23] <_av500_> oh
  • [20:54:32] <_av500_> trying to fill up your MEGA account?
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  • [20:55:13] <mru> I tried to store _all_ the random numbers in mine but they wouldn't fit
  • [20:55:22] <mru> useless service
  • [20:58:02] <dm8tbr> you could store banged(up) bits there as well
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  • [21:30:37] <mrpackethead> @av500, thats an interesting theory.. fill up MEGA with trash
  • [21:30:50] <mrpackethead> and hopefully we could get rid of Dotcom
  • [21:30:54] <mrpackethead> hes a scammer.
  • [21:31:03] <_av500_> he is a fine troll
  • [21:31:11] <mrpackethead> i'd send him to the USA today if i had a chance.
  • [21:31:25] <_av500_> scammed who?
  • [21:31:45] <mrpackethead> he has multiple convictions for insider trading
  • [21:31:46] <mru> megaupload links sure were annoying
  • [21:32:11] <mru> mrpackethead: that's how everybody makes money on the stock market
  • [21:32:20] <mrpackethead> hes profited by allowing people to breech copyright
  • [21:32:22] <mru> the unlucky ones get caught
  • [21:32:46] <mru> so have the ISPs
  • [21:32:53] <mrpackethead> you can argue the merits of the law, but hes an unethtial ...
  • [21:33:08] <mrpackethead> yes, indeed, many people have
  • [21:33:33] <mru> the ones who get caught are no worse than those who do not
  • [21:33:45] <mrpackethead> that does'nt make it right
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  • [21:37:06] <mrpackethead> maybe copyright is wrong
  • [21:37:08] <mrpackethead> i dot' know
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  • [21:48:35] <mrpackethead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j6qmdqvItkM <-- please enjoy, its our national holiday today
  • [21:49:15] <_av500_> have fun
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  • [21:54:16] <mru> btw, clang managed to oom my machine with 24GB ram
  • [21:54:44] <_av500_> does it get a badge?
  • [21:54:48] <Tartarus> hah
  • [21:58:24] <ka6sox-away> hey Tartarus LTNS
  • [21:58:57] <mranostay> ka6sox-away: he doesn't get out much
  • [21:59:15] <ka6sox-away> ya, I hear he is strapped down to the monitor all the time now.
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  • [22:02:03] <Tartarus> hey ka6sox-away
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  • [22:05:53] <_av500_> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/461687407/kickstarter-open-source-death-star
  • [22:08:09] <mru> deathstarter
  • [22:08:21] <mranostay> 850 quadrillion that is all?
  • [22:08:51] * prpplague has had way too much coffee today
  • [22:08:56] <mru> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
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  • [22:09:06] <mru> ^^ that's where the figure comes from
  • [22:09:16] <mranostay> prpplague: seeing shadow people?
  • [22:09:20] <mru> prpplague: there is no such thing
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  • [22:16:24] <ka6sox> Tartarus, are you going to be at either ELC or SCaLE this year?
  • [22:16:34] <Tartarus> Not likely
  • [22:16:43] <Tartarus> Moved to NC, so west coast confs are a pain
  • [22:16:50] <Tartarus> And we're still sorting out some house issues
  • [22:16:53] <ka6sox> oh, that would make it tough!
  • [22:17:05] <ka6sox> that will keep you busy
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  • [22:22:27] <mrpackethead> i so wished i understood C++
  • [22:22:43] <mru> try reading the disassembly
  • [22:22:46] <mru> it's often easier
  • [22:23:33] <mrpackethead> yeah..
  • [22:23:49] <mranostay> i've never wished to learn C++ :)
  • [22:25:05] <mru> what mranostay said
  • [22:25:19] <ka6sox> +2
  • [22:25:54] <_av500_> +7
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  • [22:37:15] <mrpackethead> http://pastebin.com/AtSzWe0L
  • [22:37:27] <mrpackethead> this has got me confused.
  • [22:38:29] <mru> formatting is way fucked up
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  • [22:40:09] <mrpackethead> toogle the text wrapping button.
  • [22:40:28] <mru> not talking about that
  • [22:40:42] <mru> indentation is bizarre
  • [22:40:50] <mru> and the code is plain unreadable regardless
  • [22:41:24] <mrpackethead> the commments off the side, where my doing..
  • [22:41:36] <mru> not talking about those
  • [22:42:48] <mrpackethead> as a E- C++ student, whats wrong with the formating
  • [22:43:14] <mru> why are the scrawlings of a caveman not fine poetry?
  • [22:44:55] <mdp> agreed, indentation alone makes it unreadable
  • [22:45:25] <mranostay> death to those who go over 80 characters
  • [22:46:14] <mrpackethead> let me go back to the orginal
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  • [22:48:23] <_av500_> mrpackethead: I dont know what I hate more, 80 chars or 80 char haters
  • [22:48:31] <mrpackethead> lol.
  • [22:48:41] <mru> _av500_: I saw what you did there
  • [22:49:25] <_av500_> I have seen code made less readable with religious 80 char wrapping
  • [22:49:57] <Shadyman> ^
  • [22:50:06] <mdp> I'm just begging for consistent indentation
  • [22:50:15] <_av500_> mrpackethead: oops, that was for mranostay
  • [22:50:22] <mdp> for the children!
  • [22:50:39] <_av500_> mranostay: being born after punch cards means you get no say in the argument
  • [22:50:49] <_av500_> mdp: agreed
  • [22:51:01] <Russ> time for lindent
  • [22:51:19] <mranostay> _av500_: hey now!
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  • [22:51:58] <mrpackethead> http://pastebin.com/3iBJ8daZ <-- 80 character compliant
  • [22:53:02] <mru> _av500_: does playing with punch cards as a kid count?
  • [22:53:16] <_av500_> mru: ack
  • [22:53:45] <mru> for some reason, there was a box of blank ones in the house
  • [22:53:47] <mranostay> _av500_: we can't all be old like you
  • [22:54:35] <mdp> mranostay, only the cool kid^H^H^Hpeople can
  • [22:54:38] <mru> mranostay: just give it some time
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  • [22:58:46] <mrpackethead> so, trolls was that better
  • [23:00:28] <mdp> can you translate to C for me? our education system is kinda poor so I need people to translate to my native tongue.
  • [23:00:38] <mrpackethead> lol..
  • [23:00:55] <mru> mdp: there are compilers that translate to assembly
  • [23:01:03] <mru> as I said, I prefer reading that
  • [23:01:05] <mdp> whut?!?
  • [23:01:14] <mrpackethead> if it was in C
  • [23:01:18] <mrpackethead> i pobably coudl read it myself.
  • [23:01:23] <mrpackethead> it might as well be in Latin
  • [23:01:31] <mdp> mru, then there's the debate over the proper syntax there too
  • [23:01:42] <mru> depends on the architecture
  • [23:02:06] <mdp> oh yeah, forgot there's arches besides 6502
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  • [23:10:05] <mrpackethead> can one learn c++ in 30 minutes
  • [23:10:06] <mrpackethead> sigh.
  • [23:10:12] <mru> no
  • [23:10:25] <mru> 30 years is not enough
  • [23:11:08] <mru> but don't worry, it's probably just a passing fad
  • [23:12:59] <Shadyman> Totally. 6502 assemby is where it's at
  • [23:13:01] <Shadyman> ;)
  • [23:13:09] <mrpackethead> ok, i'll block out tommorrow afteroon, and master C then.
  • [23:17:57] <Russ> mrpackethead, it's easy
  • [23:17:59] <Russ> http://abstrusegoose.com/249
  • [23:19:13] <mrpackethead> 21 days.. you mistunderstood me.
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  • [23:19:19] <mrpackethead> i need it in 21 minutes.
  • [23:20:28] <mrpackethead> give me a soldering iron, a scope, and soem hardware anyday.
  • [23:20:31] <mrpackethead> i get that
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  • [23:23:51] <mrpackethead> thanks.. they probably will conflict with my Cardiac meds
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