• [00:02:22] <Russ> alan_o, does it list the gpio bank?
  • [00:04:19] <alan_o> Russ: http://dpaste.org/uIZKC/ doesn't look like it, unless there's something else I don't get yet.
  • [00:06:26] <alan_o> I feel like I'm needing to make a static entry in the DT for something that's dynamic. Even if I find out what it is right now, that doesn't mean it will be the same on the next rev of the board, or if someone installs another cape that dynamically registers interrupts
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  • [00:09:19] <Russ> have you read this? http://devicetree.org/Device_Tree_Usage#How_Interrupts_Work
  • [00:10:19] <alan_o> I think so. I'll read it again, now with hopefully more understanding.
  • [00:14:33] <mranostay> alan_o: you need more exact steps?
  • [00:14:50] <alan_o> mranostay: yes, please :-D
  • [00:15:15] <alan_o> I think I'm seeing this now
  • [00:15:44] <alan_o> in am33xx.dtsi, gpio1 _is_ an interrupt controller
  • [00:16:41] * Russ gets grumpy with his si units package '15 m??dash40 m??'
  • [00:17:28] <alan_o> maybe panto can read that
  • [00:28:20] <toneeee> Russ: I'll read it, thanks
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  • [01:19:17] <mrpackethead_> did a goblin get the master troll
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  • [02:05:23] <alan_o> so mranostay, to get the geiger cape to work in the latest kernel, do you have to renumber slot@5 to slot@0 (or slot@n where n < 4) ?
  • [02:05:43] <alan_o> I'm assuming that the overrides are in there because it doesn't support the eeprom, right?
  • [02:07:30] <mranostay> alan_o: no they aren't real slots so no
  • [02:07:42] <mranostay> well with the overrides
  • [02:07:52] <alan_o> ok, so you turn it on from the command line?
  • [02:13:17] <alan_o> I thought I read that it was possible to bind them from sysfs
  • [02:13:20] <alan_o> but I can't see it
  • [02:15:44] <alan_o> ok, I see it now, write to slots in sysfs.
  • [02:16:02] <alan_o> now to determine the syntax from the code
  • [02:19:20] <alan_o> hey, that loaded my driver
  • [02:19:22] <alan_o> than stackdumped :(
  • [02:19:36] <alan_o> looks like I didn't crack the code on the interrupts yet
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  • [02:29:25] <alan_o> argh... gpioN is off-by-one in the DT.
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  • [02:40:36] <mrpackethead_> i'm getting some actions i cant understand with the ephpwm ports..
  • [02:40:42] <mrpackethead_> set a duty_percent
  • [02:40:47] <mrpackethead_> on one port
  • [02:40:52] <mrpackethead_> and another one changes.
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  • [03:47:09] <mranostay> alan_o: you get a troll table for ELC?
  • [03:48:13] <alan_o> mranostay: I got a table, and a troll will be at it
  • [03:48:29] <alan_o> I asked TBird to put it next to Beagle
  • [03:48:41] <alan_o> Will you be at the beagle table again?
  • [03:51:29] <mranostay> i was never at the beagle table
  • [03:51:34] <alan_o> no?
  • [03:51:35] <mranostay> i was loitering around it
  • [03:51:37] <alan_o> with Koen?
  • [03:51:38] <alan_o> oh
  • [03:51:40] <mranostay> ah
  • [03:51:43] <mranostay> right ELC-E
  • [03:51:55] <mranostay> that wasn't a 'beagle' table
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  • [03:55:29] <alan_o> did Crofton or Crofton|work get a table?
  • [03:59:37] * mranostay is reminded to finish up his slides
  • [04:02:05] <ka6sox> mranostay, slacker
  • [04:03:51] <mranostay> ka6sox: yeah versus the people that sent it in the last possible moment :)
  • [04:04:11] <mranostay> mainly updating the capebus to not-capebus section
  • [04:05:16] <ka6sox> ya, I am working on a set of slides tonight too....for my Son's presentation @ SCaLE:TNG
  • [04:06:17] <mranostay> ka6sox: what is the deadline for SCaLE?
  • [04:06:36] <ka6sox> its past...(except for UpScale and TNG
  • [04:06:39] <ka6sox> )
  • [04:07:03] <mranostay> ka6sox: well slides in
  • [04:07:19] <ka6sox> unfortunately I have 2 presentations there this year... + helping my son to get his in too!
  • [04:07:29] <ka6sox> I think its a week before.
  • [04:08:11] <ka6sox> I just hope his presentation and mine don't overlap.
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  • [04:27:33] <mranostay> ka6sox: what are the odds? :)
  • [04:29:36] <ka6sox> I know a guy who knows a guy...
  • [04:30:00] <ka6sox> I may watch it from A/V control...
  • [04:30:58] <Russ> ka6sox, when are your scale presentations?
  • [04:31:36] <ka6sox> friday afternoon and saturday @ 6pm
  • [04:32:20] <mranostay> what they about?
  • [04:32:25] <mranostay> *are
  • [04:35:31] <Russ> I'll miss the friday one because ELC
  • [04:37:03] <Russ> LibHybris
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  • [07:54:30] <mranostay> hi woglinde
  • [07:54:44] <woglinde> hi mranostay still awake?
  • [07:55:51] <mranostay> sure it seems so
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  • [08:09:07] <mranostay> hi Guest61212
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  • [08:11:51] <av500> mranostay: ahoi
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  • [08:14:22] <woglinde> gm av500
  • [08:15:09] <panto> gm people living under bridges
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  • [08:25:44] <woglinde> panto its gold under the bridge in greece?
  • [08:25:48] <woglinde> ups cold
  • [08:26:04] <panto> not as cold as in germany
  • [08:26:18] <panto> so there's a troll population explosion here
  • [08:26:18] <woglinde> today we have not under zero
  • [08:28:14] * panto should mentions that it's about 10C for a week here and we've been bitching about it constantly
  • [08:28:16] <panto> *mention
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  • [08:37:45] <CareBear\> panto : it's really warm here the last days
  • [08:37:49] <CareBear\> panto : only 1C
  • [08:37:57] <CareBear\> panto : last week it was -10C
  • [08:38:24] <CareBear\> yeah, germany
  • [08:38:25] <CareBear\> ..
  • [08:38:26] <panto> CareBear\, but you are a bear after all, you like the cold climate :)
  • [08:38:30] <CareBear\> no, I don't
  • [08:38:39] <CareBear\> my body is greek
  • [08:38:44] <panto> lol
  • [08:39:02] <CareBear\> it's true - my father's genes
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  • [08:40:56] <KotH> .o0(greek invasion!)
  • [08:41:08] <CareBear\> I'm swedish
  • [08:41:11] * KotH must bring more turkish
  • [08:42:23] * av500 prepares to fight off the turks
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  • [08:42:29] <panto> heh, KotH you're losing; it's 1.5 vs 1 :)
  • [08:42:41] <av500> panto: 2.5 :)
  • [08:42:49] <panto> hehe
  • [08:43:00] <av500> KotH: get lost, but leave the coffee
  • [08:43:35] * KotH calls his brothers, and brothers of brothers
  • [08:45:03] <KotH> av500: you dont even know what to do with those coffee beens! you'll just feed them to the pigs, like louis XV did!
  • [08:45:36] <panto> CareBear\, hmm, you're the OpenOCD maintainer?
  • [08:46:35] <KotH> panto: very likely :)
  • [08:46:47] <panto> cool
  • [08:47:12] <panto> I might need you around to bitch about openocd in a few months :)
  • [08:47:46] <CareBear\> panto : not *the* but I am sortof one of them
  • [08:48:19] <panto> nm, you'll be the right outlet for venting :P
  • [08:48:45] <CareBear\> push all your bitching in form of patches to gerrit kthxbye
  • [08:49:09] <panto> hehe
  • [08:49:40] <CareBear\> panto : are you at hackerspace.gr sometimes? I'd like to stop by there next time I am in Athens
  • [08:49:46] <KotH> CareBear\: what about bitchings about gerrit? ;->
  • [08:50:04] <panto> CareBear\, I'm not really - I should go to check it out sometime
  • [08:50:06] <CareBear\> KotH : not so much. except for one or two things I'm really happy with it
  • [08:50:13] * KotH knows
  • [08:50:37] <panto> I don't know any of the people there - so I'm a bit wary if they're any good
  • [08:50:38] <keesj> last week was cold . but today they are replacing the heating system...
  • [08:50:40] <KotH> CareBear\: it's just a pain to use when you dont regularly use it... i always have to look up what to do, when i want to send a patch
  • [08:50:47] <keesj> (Amsterdam)
  • [08:50:53] <KotH> CareBear\: but then, you've great exact steps document there
  • [08:50:54] <CareBear\> KotH : simply push..
  • [08:51:09] <CareBear\> panto : they look like they are having fun
  • [08:51:13] <CareBear\> panto : that counts too
  • [08:51:46] * KotH pushes panto over a cliff
  • [08:51:48] <panto> yeah, I guess that's the spirit :)
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  • [09:06:59] <KotH> av500: if you are near z?rich, and come to our office in half an hour, you can have some baklava ;->
  • [09:07:21] * panto actually has family (from the wife's side of the family) in zurich
  • [09:07:32] <panto> does that offer stand for me too?
  • [09:08:19] <KotH> hmm.. what can you offer in exchange? ;-)
  • [09:08:47] <panto> ugh, greek coffee? :)
  • [09:09:19] <KotH> somehow i dont trust that...
  • [09:11:05] <av500> KotH: It's turskish coffee under a different name
  • [09:13:16] <panto> it's an improved version
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  • [09:15:38] <KotH> panto: you say that about the gyros as well.. but such awfull stuff doesnt come anyway near a real iskender kebaba!
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  • [09:21:08] <CareBear\> try the doener in berlin
  • [09:21:18] <CareBear\> now that is awful stuff
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  • [09:22:52] <woglinde> CareBear where did you bought it
  • [09:22:56] <woglinde> there is doener and doener
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  • [09:25:13] <panto> KotH, I don't think that gyros are the best dish we got
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  • [09:30:45] <KotH> woglinde: and there is d?ner
  • [09:30:52] <CareBear\> woglinde : I've tried several - it's mostly the same. but I hear there is a good place near Hermannplatz
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  • [09:59:21] <mrpackethead_> i had a very good nasi goreng tonght, here in middle-earth
  • [09:59:52] <koen> you're dutch?
  • [10:01:03] <ynezz> nasi goreng is dutch meal?
  • [10:01:26] <av500> of course
  • [10:02:00] <ynezz> I miss the chocolate there...
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  • [10:03:56] <keesj> colonialism...
  • [10:04:22] <mrpackethead_> dutch.. no malayisan
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  • [10:30:00] <koen> mranostay: nasi goreng is a pervasive dish in the netherland
  • [10:30:02] <koen> ehm
  • [10:30:07] <koen> mrpackethead_
  • [10:30:22] <av500> I thought it was Frikandel
  • [10:30:31] <koen> that's more of a snack
  • [10:31:39] <koen> $@)*$)(@#$*@
  • [10:31:48] <koen> I HATE projects that depend on ffmpeg
  • [10:31:56] <koen> libav FTW
  • [10:31:59] * koen stabs comskip
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  • [10:48:27] <av500> cleaned /tmp, won 30GB
  • [10:48:36] <av500> what are all these gs_foo files?
  • [10:49:49] <woglinde> ghostscrippt
  • [10:50:06] <woglinde> shitty software without you cannt printing something
  • [10:50:24] <av500> ah
  • [10:50:52] <woglinde> I guess
  • [10:51:03] <woglinde> maybee is something else
  • [10:52:35] <av500> yeah
  • [10:52:38] <av500> makes sense
  • [10:54:43] <woglinde> what makes sense?
  • [10:55:01] <woglinde> that your /tmp is no in ram
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  • [10:55:16] <woglinde> or that gs do not delete the his temp files=?
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  • [10:56:28] <av500> that gs is ghostscipt
  • [10:56:39] <av500> woglinde: tmp in ram does not work
  • [10:57:02] <av500> I do not have 30GB RAM for tmp
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  • [11:04:03] <mru> ghostscript isn't all that bad
  • [11:04:10] <mru> but I guess it too is going downhill
  • [11:05:39] <av500> I guess its the print system not deleting tmp files
  • [11:06:29] <mru> I have cron jobs to purge some kinds of temp files
  • [11:06:38] <mru> easier than fixing the shit that puts them there
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  • [11:08:27] <av500> I just buy bigger drives :)
  • [11:12:21] <mru> my /tmp is in ram
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  • [11:37:07] <Crofton|work> more ram
  • [11:37:31] <Crofton|work> I want a waterfall display in a frane buffer
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  • [11:58:39] <woglinde> av500 so you would haver earlier notice it
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  • [12:48:49] <Crofton|work> I am thinking of suggesting all my angry gun toting friends move to Switzerland
  • [12:49:06] <Crofton|work> one of them was over last night praising the Swiss for all having guns
  • [12:51:15] <KotH> lol
  • [12:51:19] <KotH> send them here
  • [12:51:27] <KotH> they'll have an unpleasant wakeup :)
  • [12:51:31] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [12:52:11] <Crofton|work> do you have a link to a description of what the actual policy is?
  • [12:52:22] <Crofton|work> There seems to be some misunderstandings
  • [12:52:27] <KotH> we have a damn lot of guns, and you often see people walking around with a full automatic assault rifle on their shulder... but gun fanatics are not liked here
  • [12:52:44] <koen> isn't it tied to mandatory military service?
  • [12:52:54] <koen> let's see how the US people like that :)
  • [12:53:01] <KotH> Crofton|work: only in german, french, italian and retrorumantsch
  • [12:53:04] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [12:53:22] <mdp> koen, it's tough to get excited about that in a perpetual state of war ;)
  • [12:53:52] <koen> oh, really?
  • [12:54:19] <Crofton|work> what is retrorumantsch?
  • [12:54:21] <av500> I'm all for putting the draft back
  • [12:54:34] <av500> everybody should have a fair share of war
  • [12:54:45] <av500> Crofton|work: a language :)
  • [12:54:56] <Crofton|work> hmm, like ladin?
  • [12:54:57] <mdp> except those that have less fairness in the draft ;)
  • [12:55:00] <av500> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romansh_language
  • [12:55:16] <KotH> Crofton|work: policy is quite simple: as a swiss citizen you are allowed to buy guns w/o registration, as long as they are non-automatic. use is only allowed on specialy designed shooting ranges and only due to specified hours. carrying around loaded guns is forbidden. consealed guns as well. actually you are only allowed to carry an unloaded gun from home to the shooting range and back, everything else is forbidden
  • [12:55:18] <av500> mdp: you can always go to Canada
  • [12:55:43] <mdp> av500, a popular choice
  • [12:56:09] <mdp> I prefer to wear Canada as our hat.
  • [12:56:16] <av500> KotH: can you have ammo at home?
  • [12:56:21] <KotH> av500: sure
  • [12:56:41] <KotH> av500: i used to have 50 rounds of 5.6mm until the military wanted it back
  • [12:56:50] <mdp> Crofton|work: tell your angry friends not to worry...this will all blow over soon enough
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  • [12:57:36] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [12:57:50] <Crofton|work> one of them lives in NY, he is shipping stuff to VA for safe keeping
  • [12:57:54] <av500> lol
  • [12:57:59] <KotH> av500: but opening the can was strictly forbidden... if you opened it w/o due need (aka a war breaking out) you ended up infront of a military tribunal
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  • [12:58:12] <mdp> oh, well, NY is a sorry-as place to live if you are a collector/user of firearms to start ;)
  • [12:58:13] <av500> KotH: ah
  • [12:58:24] <mdp> s/as/ass/
  • [12:58:30] <KotH> av500: but then, buying amo as a swiss citizen is damn easy
  • [12:58:39] <KotH> av500: just walk into the next shop and buy some
  • [12:58:39] <av500> Crofton|work: in fact, non-compliance to registration is a good outcome
  • [12:58:42] <KotH> av500: no questions asked
  • [12:58:58] <av500> Crofton|work: all these guns will get out of circulation
  • [12:59:30] <av500> until the day you folks need to rise up gainst the evil government
  • [12:59:44] <mdp> the creators of the evil vendor tree..aha
  • [12:59:59] <KotH> DEFEND DEMOCRACY! AGAINST YOUR OWN, ELECTED GOVERNMENT!
  • [13:00:05] <Crofton|work> heh, seems like most of the revolutions these days are more dependent on the internet than on guns :)
  • [13:00:07] <av500> +1
  • [13:00:17] <av500> Crofton|work: nooooooooo
  • [13:00:21] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [13:00:22] <av500> think of the children!
  • [13:00:44] <KotH> Crofton|work: that's why homeland security is trying hard to restrict the internet as far as possible :)
  • [13:00:56] <mdp> yes, train the children to aim their interwebs accurately
  • [13:01:31] <Crofton|work> so in Swiss, you get one auto weapng and can buy as many as you want, but you can only load them at the range, or if there is a war?
  • [13:01:39] <mdp> KotH: like most operations, it's a multi-faceted and systematic approach to control anything to those in power ;)
  • [13:01:41] <av500> mdp: I have my own version of the internet burried on a farm in montana!!!
  • [13:01:52] <KotH> Crofton|work: nope, the assault rifle is tied to military service
  • [13:01:53] <av500> come and get it!
  • [13:02:00] <Crofton|work> Bdale and Eben will update us on the freedom box at FOSDEM
  • [13:02:03] <mdp> av500, it's very easy to spot your buried internets from the sats..epic fail
  • [13:02:07] <KotH> Crofton|work: you get it when you enter and have to take it home between service
  • [13:02:12] <av500> mdp: but but tubes
  • [13:02:15] <mdp> av500, smart people bury their internets on public land
  • [13:02:25] <KotH> Crofton|work: after your time ends, you have to give it back, or you can keep it if it is modified to single shot
  • [13:02:27] <Crofton|work> so when you are done with service, you give it back?
  • [13:02:31] <mdp> av500, I'm just sayin'
  • [13:02:33] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [13:02:52] <Crofton|work> but the only place you can have a loaded gun is the range?
  • [13:03:04] <av500> Crofton|work: where else?
  • [13:03:13] <KotH> Crofton|work: yes
  • [13:03:24] <KotH> Crofton|work: you are allowed to use a gun in self defence
  • [13:03:41] <av500> as a club, since you are not allowed to load it....
  • [13:03:46] <KotH> Crofton|work: but then you need a very good argument why you shot the guy who had nothing but a knife in his hands
  • [13:04:12] <KotH> Crofton|work: and killing someone because he entered your house is not selfe defense
  • [13:04:24] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [13:04:39] <Crofton|work> I am still thinking I should just encourage them to move to Swiss
  • [13:04:45] <mru> reminds me of case of repeated warehouse burglaries outside stockholm a few years ago
  • [13:04:52] <mru> police were unable to do anything
  • [13:04:53] <av500> KotH: you can always quite the movie :)
  • [13:05:01] <av500> quote*
  • [13:05:13] <mru> so one of the business owners in the area staked out the place with a shotgun
  • [13:05:25] <mru> didn't take long before the burglar showed up
  • [13:05:25] <Crofton|work> ooops
  • [13:05:31] <mru> and got shot
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  • [13:05:41] <mru> he wasn't seriously injured
  • [13:05:52] <mru> but enough to put an end to the burglaries
  • [13:06:03] <mru> of course the guy who shot him ended up on trial
  • [13:06:29] <mru> apparently the other small business owners around there all chipped in to pay the fine
  • [13:07:43] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [13:08:29] <Crofton|work> a friend had a bike stolen, we were talking about getting an electric fence thing and setting it up on the porch
  • [13:08:38] <mru> the justice system may frown upon vigilantism, but it works
  • [13:09:42] <av500> imagine the robber being shot dead
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  • [13:18:19] <vij> I've cloned the Linux sources from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
  • [13:18:54] <vij> Though i'm able to build and boot my Beaglebone board with 3.8 kernel
  • [13:19:23] <vij> Any suggestions?
  • [13:20:01] <woglinde> @av500 did you hear about the case near hamburg?
  • [13:20:24] <woglinde> gang cought a old guy in his house beat him up and took money
  • [13:21:18] <woglinde> but freeded himself somehiw and took his gun and shot after them as they tried to get away shot one down
  • [13:23:54] <vij> I'm sorry for a newbie question..,
  • [13:25:30] <Crofton|work> vij, I can't see what the question is
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  • [13:27:30] <woglinde> crofton he wants to be newbie
  • [13:28:07] <vij> Am not able to locate the board file "board-am335xevm.c" under arch/arm/mach-omap2/ in my cloned kernel sources.
  • [13:28:21] <vij> I've cloned the Linux sources from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
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  • [13:28:37] <vij> Though i'm able to build and boot my Beaglebone board with 3.8 kernel
  • [13:28:48] <Crofton|work> board files are going away
  • [13:28:55] <mru> nice try
  • [13:28:55] <Crofton|work> replaced by device tree stuff?
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  • [13:29:48] <woglinde> so what it looks like his problem is no dt-file for the evm
  • [13:30:25] <woglinde> or let me guess he wants do change somehting for his commercial board and does not know where
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  • [13:55:13] <limaxray> hello there! I was wondering if anyone could clarify the UART muxing on the beaglebone? Specifically, UART5 - in the SRM it says RTS/CTS are not available for UART5, but in the muxing table they're listed as mode0 for pins 31/32 on P8, am I missing something?
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  • [13:59:41] <woglinde> limaxray just try it out?
  • [14:00:03] <limaxray> yeah I may have to do that
  • [14:00:12] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
  • [14:00:24] <limaxray> was working on a PCB layout and was trying to avoid that
  • [14:02:56] <woglinde> hm ah okay
  • [14:03:06] <woglinde> that is trickier than
  • [14:04:17] <av500> woglinde: http://hannesrichert.de/?p=718
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  • [14:07:12] <bradfa> limaxray, UART5 rts/cts I believe are on boot pins, so just be careful :)
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  • [14:09:19] <woglinde> av500 now I am confused
  • [14:09:20] <woglinde> yes
  • [14:09:25] <woglinde> understood the message
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  • [14:17:44] <limaxray> sorry X crashed on me... anyway yeah I see they are a boot pin, my transceiver outputs with be high-z on boot so that'll be fine
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  • [14:17:59] <limaxray> i guess ill just have to mock something up
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  • [14:33:45] <koen> robclark: can you push a dts patch to github that adds some mode for dvi?
  • [14:34:20] <koen> robclark: I'm updating my patchset and need to update a bunch of DT entries for updated patches (PWM, ADC and drm)
  • [14:34:28] <robclark> koen, for dvi cape, it should get mode from edid..
  • [14:35:08] <robclark> koen, although there needs to be DT entries for the tfp410 cape, etc.. although how that works depends on whether you have not-capebus (which is reason DT bits are missing from my branch)
  • [14:38:13] <av500> robclark: why is is not possible to simple pass a vesa or hdmi mode via kernel command line?
  • [14:38:18] <av500> simply*
  • [14:38:25] <av500> like in ye olde days
  • [14:38:26] <robclark> av500, it is
  • [14:38:30] <av500> ah
  • [14:38:52] <robclark> av500, video="HDMI-A-1:800x600" video="DVI-D-1:800x600" (for example)
  • [14:39:15] <av500> ah
  • [14:39:35] <av500> A as in?
  • [14:40:01] <robclark> av500, that is just the connector name "HDMI-A-n"
  • [14:40:22] <robclark> I guess as opposed to HDMI-B? I don't really know the history behind those names
  • [14:41:00] <av500> robclark: does that also work for ubuntuish pandas?
  • [14:41:09] <av500> there was a guy with broken edid the other day....
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  • [14:41:52] <robclark> av500, yeah.. well, it will pick the mode you specify from the timings it gets from EDID, but there is also some support in drm to load an edid from a firmware file
  • [14:42:04] <robclark> although I've not played with that myself..
  • [14:42:21] <av500> robclark: loading a custom edid is pain
  • [14:42:29] <av500> if there is kernel command line that should be fine
  • [14:42:42] <av500> hence my question if that works on panda
  • [14:42:54] <av500> coz I have not seen it mentioned before
  • [14:44:08] <robclark> av500, it might work if it is a standard sort of resolution.. not 100% sure.. or otherwise drm should pick a safe standard 1024x768 if it gets nothing from edid..
  • [14:44:18] <av500> thats what it did
  • [14:44:37] <koen> robclark: ah, I meant for LCDs
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  • [14:44:54] <av500> robclark: but agai, no need if there is a kernel command line way
  • [14:44:57] <av500> so is there?
  • [14:45:10] <KotH> nothing is as much fun as a coworker letting the magic smoke out of a circuit with a 30uF capacitor charged to 500V
  • [14:45:15] <robclark> for lcd panel, you probably need to put a timig..
  • [14:45:28] <robclark> koen, give me a minute and I'll pastebin what I was using for lcd3
  • [14:45:40] <koen> thanks!
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  • [14:51:15] <robclark> koen, sorry, took me a minute to find it.. http://www.hastebin.com/wusolalude.xml
  • [14:53:30] <koen> thanks!
  • [14:53:50] <koen> incidentally I fixed the 'bug' that prompted me to refresh all the patches
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  • [14:54:12] <koen> turns out the "image way too red" was caused by a loose HDMI cable
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  • [14:54:37] <robclark> heheh
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  • [14:57:04] <thurbad> ~.~
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  • [14:58:32] <assertcoke> I riceved frome one of my customer a Beagleboard Xm rev C. I tried to startup it but I've not recived any result. Can anybody help me? I powered the board with the micro usb port and I connected to my monitor with the HDMI. Then I also tried to connect with the serial port to my PC using a serial console.
  • [14:59:17] <av500> sdcard inside?
  • [14:59:19] <dm8tbr> a) power it properly through the barrel connector
  • [14:59:30] <dm8tbr> b) do you have a SD card in?
  • [14:59:41] <dm8tbr> c) what do you see on the serial port (pastebin!)
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  • [15:00:56] <assertcoke> The sd card is in but I'm not sure what's inside
  • [15:01:17] <assertcoke> https://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext#The_setup
  • [15:01:26] <av500> then make sure
  • [15:01:40] <av500> its like trying to boot a PC with a random hard drive
  • [15:01:57] <assertcoke> the console does not give me any feedback
  • [15:02:23] <koen> assertcoke: why are you using that horribly outdated and plain wrong code.google site?
  • [15:03:09] <assertcoke> sorry but I'm a very beginner of beagleboard
  • [15:04:12] <av500> koen: easy, why does the site exist?
  • [15:04:16] <av500> (still)
  • [15:04:35] <assertcoke> @dm8tbr what you mean by barrel connector?
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  • [15:07:00] <assertcoke> Is there anyone who can help me?
  • [15:07:27] <dm8tbr> assertcoke: 3 people have given you hints, are you implying that those are unhelpful?
  • [15:08:18] * av500 cries
  • [15:08:19] <dm8tbr> assertcoke: the beagleboard should be powered through the 5V connector. see SRM for details.
  • [15:09:14] <assertcoke> i powered it with the microusb.Is not the same?
  • [15:09:21] <dm8tbr> no
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  • [15:11:58] <assertcoke> but some leds light up...
  • [15:12:29] <koen> av500: you'd have to ask jkridner, I have giving asking him to delete that site
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  • [15:22:10] <av500> +1
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  • [15:33:08] <av500> breakfast: http://www.nerdygaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Nuggets-French-Fries-hamburger-Pizza.jpg
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  • [16:04:37] <mranostay> morning
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  • [16:14:56] <mranostay> av500: that looks horrible
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  • [16:20:45] <jeet> hi I am looking for some books to better understand hardware/software interfacing and core concepts of computing, any recommendations? Is Computer Architecture or Computer Organization better? (both are by Hennessy and Patterson and these authors have been recommended to me before)
  • [16:21:09] <mranostay> must be monday
  • [16:23:23] <agmlego> jeet: Those, and Stallings has a good one on Architecture that we used for all my uni courses.
  • [16:24:31] <jeet> which one did you like? he seems to have a few
  • [16:24:41] <agmlego> jeet: Yes.
  • [16:24:50] <agmlego> jeet: Basically, just start reading.
  • [16:25:07] <jeet> Alright then, there is a henessy and patterson book for 100 at my uni's bookstore
  • [16:25:18] <jeet> is that overpriced?
  • [16:26:11] <agmlego> Sounds about the right ballpark, but I recommend Amazon if it is not for a class.
  • [16:26:29] <agmlego> (if it is I still recommend it, but you have to think ahead for timing).
  • [16:26:49] <jeet> hmm yeah CDN$ 71.47 on amazon
  • [16:26:50] <jeet> thanks
  • [16:27:12] <agmlego> jeet: Also, i strongly recommend taking one or two architecture courses if you really want to understand this stuff, especailly if labs are available--best way to learn is through doing with a qualified person around to ask questions.
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  • [16:30:42] <jeet> alrighty, i've taken courses on fpga, micro controllers, etc
  • [16:30:56] <jeet> but yeah, not on computer architecture/design
  • [16:32:00] <jeet> or operating systems
  • [16:33:54] <agmlego> Well, those three are likely to be different courses.
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  • [16:38:40] <koen> robclark: xf86-video-modesetting running on an LCD7 now :)
  • [16:38:42] <jeet> True, but i'm hoping i have picked up enough fundamentals to carry on with books + internet help
  • [16:39:02] <robclark> koen, nice
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  • [16:40:16] <agmlego> jeet: It really helps to have a piece of hardware to play with, do you?
  • [16:40:40] <jeet> what type?
  • [16:41:10] <agmlego> jeet: Depends on the architecute you want to play with, and how.
  • [16:41:24] <agmlego> An FPGA and softcores make playing with a variety easy.
  • [16:41:32] <jeet> ah perfect
  • [16:41:36] <jeet> i actually had a course like that
  • [16:41:42] <jeet> uC-OS on altera fpga
  • [16:41:47] <agmlego> On the other hand, a beagle of some kind or an Arduino lets you do the software side eaiser for cheaper.
  • [16:41:53] <jeet> sadly i didn't work very hard, but i'm willing to pick up an fpga board
  • [16:42:18] <jeet> i would like to understand linux, embedded C, on-board computers, these types of things - if that makes sense
  • [16:42:33] <jeet> hardware
  • [16:43:21] <jeet> would a laptop running linux, and an fpga board be a good start?
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  • [16:43:43] <niro> anybody have any experience with v4l/
  • [16:43:56] <niro> *v4l2 specificlly.
  • [16:44:44] <woglinde> reeee
  • [16:45:03] <woglinde> jeet yes and a lot of time
  • [16:45:13] <woglinde> or money to pay a trainer
  • [16:45:40] <jeet> what level of knowledge do you assume of me when you make that statement?
  • [16:46:35] <woglinde> -> i would like to understand linux, embedded C, on-board computers, these types of things - if that makes sense
  • [16:46:59] <jeet> i don't see how that answers my question
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  • [16:47:56] <woglinde> which of them?
  • [16:48:04] <jeet> what level of knowledge do you assume of me when you make that statement?
  • [16:48:27] <woglinde> none
  • [16:48:33] <jeet> ah well there's your mistake ;)
  • [16:48:45] <jeet> but i appreciate the input regardless
  • [16:49:01] <woglinde> maybee you make the mistake to think you will learn the stuff in one week
  • [16:49:12] <jeet> one week?
  • [16:49:22] <jeet> i dont even...
  • [16:51:15] <jeet> heading out, thanks all
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  • [16:58:34] <av500> nice one: Give a carrier ubuntu and you'll end up with crapuntu..
  • [16:58:40] <av500> Yes, but what about cyanbuntu????
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  • [16:59:46] <dm8tbr> av500: use cyanidefox instead
  • [17:00:00] <woglinde> av500 where did you read it?
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  • [17:02:20] <av500> woglinde: the internet
  • [17:02:28] <av500> woglinde: a new club
  • [17:02:32] <woglinde> jesus
  • [17:02:46] <woglinde> he spoke about the devil
  • [17:05:31] <ka6sox> woglinde, this is not what I expected to wake up to...now I have to read backlog to get context.
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  • [17:06:04] <av500> woglinde: googleplus
  • [17:06:22] <av500> woglinde: its were all the cool Linux people are now
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  • [17:08:49] <woglinde> ka6sox its not a penny worth
  • [17:09:02] <woglinde> av500 I am not cool
  • [17:09:20] <mranostay> woglinde: you are cool to me :P
  • [17:10:58] <woglinde> mranostay oh my good
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  • [17:12:24] <Kristina> Well, hello.
  • [17:12:36] <Kristina> I want to port Darwin to OMAP3.
  • [17:12:43] <av500> Charles?
  • [17:12:55] <Kristina> Me?
  • [17:12:59] <Kristina> I'm not Charles :/
  • [17:14:18] <woglinde> lol they all think its friday
  • [17:14:33] <Kristina> It's Monday :O
  • [17:14:43] <panto> Kristina, good luck
  • [17:14:44] <woglinde> yes but talking like its friday
  • [17:15:23] <dm8tbr> is there Darwin for ARM?
  • [17:15:35] <Kristina> dm8tbr: Not open source.
  • [17:16:09] <av500> so what do you want to port then?
  • [17:16:20] <Kristina> Well, I have Darwin for ARM.
  • [17:17:34] <av500> http://crna.cc/magenta_readme.html
  • [17:17:42] <Kristina> Oh, no, not that.
  • [17:17:48] <Kristina> That's ancient.
  • [17:18:50] <av500> who is your web designer? :)
  • [17:19:02] <Kristina> Me :D
  • [17:19:30] <Kristina> Are you hinting at how terrible it looks?
  • [17:19:46] <woglinde> looks terrible like darwin
  • [17:20:00] <Kristina> Oh, aren't you nice.
  • [17:20:17] <av500> Kristina: no, I like the 80ish BBS look :)
  • [17:20:58] <av500> though all the source in .zip files is a bit offputting
  • [17:21:10] <dm8tbr> Kristina: you'd need to single handedly port the whole Darwin kernel to ARM, before you can even think of an OMAP3 adaptation...
  • [17:21:26] <av500> or is it only userland?
  • [17:21:33] <Kristina> dm8tbr: Oddly enough, that's exactly what I did.
  • [17:22:26] <Kristina> http://crna.cc/private/hello.png
  • [17:24:27] <dm8tbr> the omap specific bits are well grouped in the linux tree if you want a reference. Also the TRM is quite detailed.
  • [17:25:50] <Kristina> Actually, that's what I wanted to bother you guys with.
  • [17:26:57] <Kristina> I'm especially looking forward to trying to get the GPU to work.
  • [17:27:15] <av500> there are binary blobs
  • [17:27:20] <av500> for the SGX
  • [17:27:25] <av500> and a public kernel driver
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  • [17:27:39] <Kristina> av500: blergh, I have the DDK anyway.
  • [17:28:25] <Kristina> Not a fan of using binary blobs to be honest.
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  • [17:29:09] <av500> sure
  • [17:29:19] <av500> feel free to share the DDK source with us :)
  • [17:29:31] <Kristina> Nice try :)
  • [17:29:51] <av500> Kristina: actually, I have it too :)
  • [17:30:12] <Kristina> Oh. Did you get it from TI?
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  • [17:32:28] * Kristina always wondered how people got hold of things like that.
  • [17:32:42] <woglinde> av500 is a superstar
  • [17:32:46] <woglinde> thats it
  • [17:32:52] <woglinde> he get all stuff
  • [17:33:01] <woglinde> he gets even
  • [17:33:11] <Kristina> av500: TI NDA?
  • [17:33:29] <Kristina> I heard that you can get access to that if you ask TI and sign their NDA.
  • [17:33:33] <av500> yes
  • [17:33:37] <Kristina> I have yet to hear back from them.
  • [17:34:03] <Kristina> av500: So am I correct? Can you just ask them?
  • [17:34:08] <koen> the fastest way is just to start working for TI :)
  • [17:34:34] <woglinde> koen but you have to sign NDA
  • [17:34:37] <woglinde> even then
  • [17:34:46] <koen> yes
  • [17:34:52] <Kristina> woglinde: I'm aware that you have to sign an NDA.
  • [17:34:59] <koen> the non-employee way took ~7 months for me
  • [17:35:05] <Crofton|work> we need to waterboard someone who has signed the nda
  • [17:35:06] <koen> the employee way about 10 minutes
  • [17:35:22] <av500> Crofton|work: beerboard me
  • [17:35:36] <Kristina> av500: Do you need a good reason for wanting access to that stuff?
  • [17:35:56] <koen> a good reason and $$$$$$$$
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  • [17:36:09] <mru> good $$$$
  • [17:36:11] <av500> Kristina: we made android devices with TI stuff
  • [17:36:29] <Kristina> Ah.
  • [17:37:06] <Kristina> So if you don't work with TI (as in, licensing out OMAP chips en masse), they will not let you have it, even under an NDA?
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  • [17:40:35] <Kristina> How nice of TI.
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  • [17:42:26] <av500> Kristina: no
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  • [17:42:36] <av500> if you can state a valid business case, you will get access
  • [17:42:42] <av500> even as non-TI
  • [17:42:56] <av500> but "a am a hobbyist and want to tinker with it" is not one
  • [17:43:14] <av500> after all, its not TI's code
  • [17:43:18] <av500> but imgtec's
  • [17:43:40] <av500> to be honest, I would not trust an NDA with a random blogger :)
  • [17:43:51] <Kristina> av500: "I'm interested in evaluating OMAP3 as a platform".
  • [17:44:06] <av500> Kristina: as I said *business* case
  • [17:44:12] <av500> one involving $$$
  • [17:44:19] <av500> or furthering the narrative
  • [17:44:27] <Kristina> "We need the proprietary OMAP3 drivers in order to be able to evaluate the potential of the platform"
  • [17:44:34] <Kristina> av500: Something like that?
  • [17:44:43] <av500> you dont need that
  • [17:44:48] <av500> buy an android phone with omap3
  • [17:44:56] <av500> you see the power of the platform there
  • [17:44:57] <av500> :)
  • [17:45:19] <av500> its openGL after all
  • [17:45:23] <Kristina> av500: What if we run a custom, non-Linux kernel?
  • [17:45:30] <av500> its still openGL
  • [17:45:44] <av500> you are not implementing your kernel on the SGX
  • [17:45:52] <av500> just letting it draw triangles
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  • [17:46:12] <av500> but feel free to ask TI :)
  • [17:46:24] <Kristina> I wonder what a valid excuse would be. Without having to pay TI.
  • [17:46:47] <agmlego> Being part of TI, probably.
  • [17:47:04] <av500> as I said, a valid business case
  • [17:47:24] <mdp> there's a recurring theme here of, "ask TI"
  • [17:48:04] <av500> and "valid business case" :)
  • [17:48:46] * mdp lifts the needle on the av500 LP, sets it back down, and continues listening to the music
  • [17:51:27] <agmlego> "ask TI", "valid business case"
  • [17:51:51] * mdp kicks the turntable
  • [17:51:53] <av500> everybody now!
  • [17:51:56] <mdp> something is wrong with this thing!
  • [17:53:12] <agmlego> "ask TI", "valid business case"
  • [17:53:14] <agmlego> ;-P
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  • [18:01:37] <mranostay> mdp: how goes the hard BoF work? :)
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  • [18:06:47] <mdp> mranostay, I am toiling in the fields
  • [18:06:53] * mdp sings the blues
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  • [18:09:15] <mdp> mranostay, actually hacking on the TI platform-that-does-not-exist ;)
  • [18:12:03] <mranostay> mdp: you guys can't keep a secret at all :)
  • [18:12:31] <mdp> oh, you mistook my comment for another platform
  • [18:12:52] <mdp> I meant, platform-that-ti-wishes-did-not-exist
  • [18:12:53] <mdp> sorry
  • [18:13:58] <koen> horseman?
  • [18:14:43] <mdp> Ce
  • [18:15:29] <koen> yes, the horseman
  • [18:15:38] <mdp> one of four?
  • [18:15:52] <koen> no, the panto kind of horseman
  • [18:16:28] <panto> death by horseman
  • [18:16:33] <koen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur
  • [18:16:41] <mdp> yes
  • [18:17:29] <mdp> peeked at the state-of-the-art 2.6.37 kernel for it...OMG
  • [18:17:37] <mdp> the children!
  • [18:17:43] <koen> I'm intimately familiar with that one
  • [18:17:50] <mdp> I'm so sorry
  • [18:18:02] <koen> the one with not one, but two implementation of syslink
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  • [18:18:28] <mdp> i'd sooner dine with my worst enemy that make him work on that kernel
  • [18:18:31] <koen> time for some metallica
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  • [18:18:55] <mdp> koen, always time
  • [18:20:01] * koen finds out why cheap hobby servos are called hobby and cheap
  • [18:20:14] <mdp> truth in advertising
  • [18:20:32] <koen> and I think I start to understand why those TI DRV people were so hot and bothered about their closed loop stuff
  • [18:22:50] <_av500_> open loop or free loop??
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  • [18:23:15] <Kristina> Hm.
  • [18:23:25] <_av500_> +1
  • [18:23:32] <Kristina> So where is the audio driver in the OMAP Linux kernel tree?
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  • [18:24:26] <Kristina> I am not sure if trying to port the audio drivers to Darwin is even worth the effort.
  • [18:24:27] <_av500_> omap3 has no audio codec
  • [18:24:37] <Kristina> Eek, really?
  • [18:24:52] <_av500_> the twl has one
  • [18:24:54] <Kristina> My Beagleboard has a 3.5 jack.
  • [18:25:01] <agmlego> So?
  • [18:25:02] <dm8tbr> it's in the PMIC
  • [18:25:25] <Kristina> So where is the driver for that in the tree?
  • [18:25:41] <_av500_> sound/... L-)
  • [18:25:48] <_av500_> :-)
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  • [18:26:42] <Kristina> That is not helpful at all :(
  • [18:27:19] <_av500_> cant tell you atm... in a train...
  • [18:28:12] * dm8tbr waves to _av500_ from yet another train
  • [18:28:52] <woglinde> Kristina look at the devicetree and you will find out
  • [18:29:07] <_av500_> grep for twl4030
  • [18:29:19] <Kristina> Device tree? Linux has device trees? :O
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  • [18:30:06] <_av500_> yes
  • [18:30:13] <woglinde> Kristina did you sleep in a coffin the last two years?
  • [18:30:28] <_av500_> woglinde: stop it
  • [18:30:29] <Kristina> Is that something new from the 3.x era?
  • [18:30:41] <Kristina> I've only worked with 2.6 kernels.
  • [18:30:49] <woglinde> as I said
  • [18:30:57] <ogra_> 2.6 ? thats sooo last century
  • [18:31:18] <agmlego> Seriously and actually, yes.
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  • [18:33:05] <mdp> koen, ick..DRV people as "hot and bothered"...sounds messy.
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  • [19:03:46] <XorA> morning
  • [19:05:48] <mrpackethead_> morning in deed.
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  • [19:08:47] <woglinde> hi xora
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  • [19:20:02] <_av500_> Kristina: sound/soc/omap/omap3beagle.c
  • [19:20:27] <_av500_> sound/soc/codecs/twl4030.c
  • [19:22:08] <woglinde> re av500
  • [19:22:42] <XorA> yo woglinde
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  • [19:37:10] <Kristina> Hm.
  • [19:37:26] <Kristina> The audio codec isnt
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  • [19:37:40] <Kristina> isn't by any chance compatible with Intel HDA, is it?*
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  • [19:40:17] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: do you know anything about the PWM system.. I'm getting quite irractic results, i've found a few references on google, and its suggesting the some kernels are flakey.. do you have any inside knowledge?
  • [19:40:50] <mranostay> which kernel?
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  • [19:41:09] <mrpackethead_> 3.2.33-psp26
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  • [19:43:24] <Crofton|work> yay, I found another Tizen sticker
  • [19:43:39] <Kristina> Eh, so twl4030.c is the actual driver, right?
  • [19:43:54] <Kristina> Damn, that audio stuff is complicated.
  • [19:44:08] <Kristina> And porting an ALSA driver to IOAudioFamily is not going to be a fun experience.
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  • [19:44:34] <Kristina> Considering I don't know how either one of them works.
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  • [19:45:49] <mranostay> Crofton|work: where is this one going?
  • [19:46:21] <_av500_> Kristina: not at all
  • [19:46:31] <mranostay> do people actually use HW flow control?
  • [19:46:35] <_av500_> its not intel HDA at all
  • [19:46:39] <Kristina> :(
  • [19:46:52] <Kristina> That would have made my life easier.
  • [19:47:00] <agmlego> mranostay: Yes, we do all the time at work.
  • [19:47:01] <_av500_> but boring :)
  • [19:47:24] <mranostay> _av500_: boring can be good
  • [19:47:58] <Kristina> _av500_: I was wondering because there are HDA drivers for Darwin out there.
  • [19:49:52] <Kristina> Well, fuck me. There is no way I'm going to get this to work.
  • [19:50:30] <_av500_> well
  • [19:50:33] <Crofton|work> not sure
  • [19:50:39] <Crofton|work> just good to have options
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  • [19:51:41] <mranostay> sure is a monday in here
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  • [19:52:19] <NishanthMenon> time for a git gc on all repos
  • [19:54:04] <mranostay> NishanthMenon: living on the edge
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  • [19:54:17] <NishanthMenon> mranostay, ;)
  • [19:54:45] <agmlego> Kristina: Is there a reason to go Darwin over Linux, or did you just want a challenge?
  • [19:54:54] <Kristina> I like Darwin.
  • [19:54:58] <agmlego> OK.
  • [19:55:12] <Kristina> agmlego: Besides, I want to run bits of iOS on it.
  • [19:55:25] <agmlego> Ah. That would be a reason.
  • [19:56:12] <agmlego> Can you compile iOS for the am335x, or do their native ARM binaries work well enough?
  • [19:56:24] <agmlego> Once you have the kernel ported, I mean.
  • [19:57:01] <Kristina> I don't have access to the "cool" userland bits of iOS.
  • [19:57:08] <Kristina> I have stuff like QuartzCore though.
  • [19:57:28] <Kristina> But for things like UIKit, I'll just use the binary blobs.
  • [19:57:54] <Kristina> agmlego: porting the core kernel to omap3 is actually pretty simple, I know what I'm doing.
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  • [19:58:04] <agmlego> Kristina: I never said otherwise.
  • [19:58:22] <Kristina> It's just interrupt controller, timers and UART.
  • [19:58:30] <Kristina> That's for the bare bones kernel.
  • [19:58:34] * mranostay yawns
  • [19:58:58] <Kristina> My main concern is sound.
  • [19:59:16] <Kristina> ALSA is scary.
  • [20:01:19] <thurbad> most of alsa you can ignore
  • [20:02:03] <Kristina> The driver needs to conform to the IOAudioFamily protocol.
  • [20:02:14] <Kristina> I don't even understand how sound stuff works.
  • [20:02:24] <Kristina> (ie. I'm not even sure what a "codec" is)
  • [20:02:33] <Kristina> I have no experience with sound drivers.
  • [20:02:47] <agmlego> (en)coder, decoder)
  • [20:03:10] <mrpackethead_> mmm, left click on my mouse just died.
  • [20:04:45] <Kristina> Things like mixers have to be implemented.
  • [20:04:53] <Kristina> (I think)
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  • [20:05:49] <thurbad> dunno I forward ported an alsa driver at one point for our codec, I didn't have to get into any of that stuff
  • [20:06:15] <Kristina> thurbad: it's still Linux, you still had ALSA as the core.
  • [20:06:23] <thurbad> yes
  • [20:06:24] <agmlego> Kristina: I thought that was what alsamixer was for.
  • [20:06:29] <Kristina> Darwin doesn't have ALSA.
  • [20:06:42] <agmlego> So compile it for it.
  • [20:06:45] <agmlego> Or port it.
  • [20:06:46] <thurbad> ah, you're trying to write a mac sound driver?
  • [20:07:05] <Kristina> I'm just wondering if I should even bother.
  • [20:07:27] <Kristina> agmlego: It's harder than it sounds :(
  • [20:07:36] <agmlego> Kristina: Bah. Linus could do it. ;-P
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  • [20:08:15] <Kristina> agmlego: Even if I could port ALSA to Darwin, it would not be of much use.
  • [20:08:24] <agmlego> Why not?
  • [20:08:34] <Kristina> Because CoreAudio still expects an IOAudioFamily based driver.
  • [20:09:18] <Kristina> So unless I'm going to write a CoreAudio emulation layer on top of PulseAudio or something, I have to write a driver that fully conforms to IOAudioFamily.
  • [20:10:28] <thurbad> you may be able to look into some of the attempts at writing audigy kexts for "inspiration"
  • [20:10:54] <Kristina> Well, there's voodooHDA.
  • [20:11:18] <Kristina> But that's for intel HDA.
  • [20:12:37] <_av500_> you could make a rather simple driver
  • [20:12:44] <_av500_> that exposes only a few bits
  • [20:12:56] <_av500_> like OSS in the past
  • [20:12:59] <NishanthMenon> original TWL4030 OSS driver was a little simpler in that respect http://dev.openaos.org/browser/trunk/avx6/linux/sound/oss/omap2-audio-twl4030.c?rev=117
  • [20:13:35] <NishanthMenon> alsa split up workload to userspace as well - allowing tons of flexibility
  • [20:14:15] <Kristina> I don't want to end up having to rewrite half of CoreAudio :/
  • [20:15:17] <mranostay> this all seems like too much work
  • [20:15:27] <mranostay> is this for a day job or just fun?
  • [20:15:41] <Kristina> Fun.
  • [20:15:46] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: ha, gen6 :)
  • [20:16:04] <NishanthMenon> _av500_, ancient history ;)
  • [20:16:53] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: http://gitorious.org/archos/archos-gpl-gen6-kernel/trees/master
  • [20:17:13] <XorA> Kristina: alsa codec drivers use so much core ASoC functionality in them a Darwin port will be a complete re-write anyway. Start again from the datasheet and .h file is probably the best method
  • [20:17:34] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: for a nice history-less git :)
  • [20:17:56] <NishanthMenon> aah - mcbsp driver, then dma driver, twl core implementation and then TWL4030 codec ;)
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  • [20:18:23] <_av500_> or connect a piezo to a GPIO can implement a PC speaker :)
  • [20:18:49] <mranostay> _av500_: would bit banging help here?
  • [20:18:50] <Kristina> I could just plug in a USB soundcard.
  • [20:18:52] <NishanthMenon> _av500_, http://linux.omap.com/pub/kernel/ ;) tarball releases :D
  • [20:18:52] <_av500_> s/can/and(
  • [20:18:54] <Kristina> And use an HDA driver.
  • [20:19:00] <_av500_> Kristina: if you have the usb stack
  • [20:19:10] * dm8tbr also gets a chuckle out of NishanthMenon mentioning his old project stuff
  • [20:19:17] <XorA> 95% of codec driver code is just feeding ASoC core the correct structures to do its magic
  • [20:19:24] <Kristina> Last time I checked, the USB stuff on OMAP was not too complicated.
  • [20:19:30] <NishanthMenon> dm8tbr, ;)
  • [20:19:32] <XorA> a few lines of code in probe/hw-params to do setup and thats it
  • [20:19:55] <_av500_> Kristina: the EHCI should be easy
  • [20:20:11] <_av500_> unless you really want it to work
  • [20:21:06] <woglinde> av500 he wants to fight with musb?
  • [20:21:51] <_av500_> i dont
  • [20:22:27] <XorA> mmmmm musb
  • [20:22:41] * NishanthMenon goes to wash his eyes off musb
  • [20:23:59] <_av500_> desinfect he usb cables too
  • [20:24:01] <_av500_> the*
  • [20:24:33] <MZXGiant> Can someone tell me what package readelf is in, on the angstrom feed? I can't seem to find it.
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  • [20:25:30] <Kristina> I might have underestimated how much work this is going to take...
  • [20:26:03] <mdp> if you don't mind, I'd like to quote you in the future on that.
  • [20:26:25] <XorA> Kristina: charge me :-D
  • [20:26:33] <XorA> Kristina: Charge more :-D
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  • [20:34:25] <Kristina> Wait, so you'd do this for me?
  • [20:34:29] <Kristina> If I paid? :O
  • [20:35:19] <panto> Kristina, we're all a bunch of money-man-whores here
  • [20:35:20] <XorA> Kristina: unfortuneately not for strange OS, I one of my jobs is writing ASoC drivers :-D
  • [20:35:30] <panto> don't let appearances fool you
  • [20:36:16] <mranostay> heh
  • [20:36:59] <panto> in fact the #beagle channel is a cover for high-priced call-boys that are good with s/w
  • [20:37:21] <woglinde> and sometimes with hw
  • [20:37:36] <Kristina> High priced :(
  • [20:37:39] <panto> that too
  • [20:37:48] <woglinde> ladyboys haha
  • [20:38:02] <XorA> would you want rock bottom software though?
  • [20:38:03] <Kristina> :/
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  • [20:40:58] <mranostay> panto: btw nice visual
  • [20:41:33] <panto> hope everyone had dinner earlier for full effect
  • [20:41:45] <XorA> dinner isnt for a few hours yet :-(
  • [20:41:54] <XorA> damn timezones
  • [20:43:23] <mranostay> time is a illusion, man
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  • [20:45:20] <XorA> mranostay: I hope not otherwise I never get paid
  • [20:45:36] <panto> good night
  • [20:45:42] <woglinde> nite panto
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  • [20:46:40] <mranostay> geez is this DVD being burnt at 1x?
  • [20:46:58] <mru> dvd? burn?
  • [20:47:25] <gentooma> Hi, has anyone successfully activated the uarts (e.h. uart 1 or uart 4) on the beaglebone using device tree(s)? Most/All of the tutorials I found are for the old omap_mux entries in debugfs - which unfortunately don't exist anymore
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  • [20:50:11] <_av500_> mranostay: how do you burn a dvd into the cloud?
  • [20:50:14] <_av500_> over open fire?
  • [20:51:13] <woglinde> mega
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  • [20:54:03] <_av500_> mega fire?
  • [20:54:26] <XorA> is that Kims new strategy burn all evidence?
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  • [21:11:56] <Guest91559> Does anybody know how I can get mechanical 3D model of the beagle -xm board? Thanks.
  • [21:13:32] <woglinde> mechanic?
  • [21:13:34] <woglinde> zuse?
  • [21:14:14] <Russ> koen?
  • [21:14:34] <woglinde> zuse 1 was mechanic
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  • [21:15:21] <woglinde> here you go
  • [21:15:23] <woglinde> http://zuse-z1.zib.de/simulation/adder/
  • [21:15:33] <_av500_> http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=showcase_detail_page&gallery_id=14791&jid=185834
  • [21:15:54] <_av500_> http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?clid=decd9e6286323e92a3374bbb8941adff
  • [21:16:10] * Russ discovers that av500 knows how to use google
  • [21:16:31] <_av500_> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/beagleboard/6_pLEz_nWGA
  • [21:16:33] <_av500_> indeed
  • [21:16:55] * mdp searches google and finds a log of Russ discovering that av500 knows how to use google.
  • [21:17:06] <Russ> damn that google
  • [21:17:33] <woglinde> ;)
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  • [21:17:58] <mdp> a series of tubes would be more secure
  • [21:18:11] <woglinde> mdp for what?
  • [21:18:25] <mdp> wait, nm
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  • [21:20:43] * mdp adds the am335x vs ce/ne pinmux reg layout to his wtf list.
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  • [21:32:06] <ds2> the am33x wtf list is sure long
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  • [21:57:11] <mdp> ds2, I'm wondering if it's that we had two separate bunkers...or there was one bunker..and the am33xx pinmux guy decided to correct the really stupid Ne/Ce pinctl register preserve-this-magic-bit-from-reset-value thing
  • [21:57:43] <woglinde> bunkers are good
  • [21:57:47] <mdp> ds2, either way, I sure hope they've hardened their silos if I get my finger on the button
  • [21:57:53] <Jacmet> mdp: ;)
  • [21:58:02] <woglinde> gn
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  • [22:08:32] <mrpackethead_> well, weird PWM issues remain. http://pastebin.com/Vx9TKMHm
  • [22:09:01] <mrpackethead_> set the duty_percent to 50 and it goes to 2500
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  • [22:15:28] <_av500_> 2500%?
  • [22:16:14] <XorA> thats a whole lot of duty and not much cycle
  • [22:17:46] <mranostay> hehehehe he said duty
  • [22:17:50] <mrpackethead_> yup 2500%
  • [22:18:44] <mrpackethead_> the frequencys also get messed up
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  • [22:20:22] <mrpackethead_> for example;
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  • [22:21:13] <mrpackethead_> it appears if you change the freq of ehrpw.2:0 ehprpwm.2:1 also changes
  • [22:22:03] <mranostay> mrpackethead_: yeah
  • [22:22:25] <mranostay> the channels have to be the same frequency
  • [22:22:32] <mranostay> duty rate can be different
  • [22:22:36] <mrpackethead_> ahh, i did not know that
  • [22:22:46] <mrpackethead_> lucky in this case, thats not a show stopper
  • [22:23:06] <mrpackethead_> i can reorganise thigns
  • [22:23:22] <mrpackethead_> i need two PWM sources at 500Hz, and two at 25kHz
  • [22:23:59] <mrpackethead_> any clues as to why the duty_cycles get messed up
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  • [22:43:32] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: can you turn on the PWM on/off independantly?
  • [22:43:37] <mrpackethead_> i hope so
  • [22:44:11] <mranostay> yeah
  • [22:44:50] <_av500_> m all the pw!
  • [22:45:30] * mranostay rolls eyes at _av500_
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  • [22:48:11] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: you are a kind troll
  • [22:48:50] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: there was some weidness about those PWM ports
  • [22:49:22] <mrpackethead_> at least now it seems to be working
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  • [22:49:41] <Russ> ???duty???
  • [22:49:46] <mranostay> heheh
  • [22:50:11] <Russ> so is anyone else bothering to stop by scale (besides ka6sox of course)
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  • [23:32:08] <mdp> mrpackethead_: could be a broken driver
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