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  • [00:34:48] <yates> koen: may i pm you?
  • [00:36:31] <yates> jkridner: do you have experience getting a tiwi-ble module up on a beagleboard xm using the com6l adapter board?
  • [00:36:50] <yates> does anyone have experience getting a tiwi-ble module up on a beagleboard xm using the com6l adapter board?
  • [00:37:26] <yates> "hcitool dev" lists no devices
  • [00:37:27] <toneeee> I don't. what's a tiwi-ble module?
  • [00:37:52] <yates> toneeee: it's a tri-mode (bluetooth classic, bluetooth le, and wifi) rf module from LSR
  • [00:39:25] <toneeee> gotcha.
  • [00:39:51] <yates> but it sure looks like everything necessary is configured, e.g., there are entries under the /sys/class/bluetooth folder, and various modules are loaded for bluetooth as reported by lsmod
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  • [00:41:14] <yates> jkridner: thanks for the article on elinux.org
  • [00:45:14] <yates> toneeee: it's based on the TI wl1271 chip.
  • [00:45:32] <toneeee> I'll look it up when I am finished watching the parrot bot: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-student-builds-robotic-car-pet-parrot-article-1.1240828
  • [00:54:27] <yates> toneeee: that is cute
  • [00:54:45] <Russ> give that bird a car
  • [00:54:54] <toneeee> yates: yeah I liked the parrot being a Grey and the owner being a Gray
  • [00:55:32] <yates> when i was a boy, we lived in Panama for 3 years and had two yellow-breasted Amazon parrots we called Pat and Polly.
  • [00:55:51] <yates> they were wonderful pets (for the most part...)
  • [00:58:58] <yates> they could bite the hell out of your finger, though!
  • [00:59:02] <yates> if they got mad.
  • [00:59:14] <Russ> this video makes it much more clear that the bird is making purposeful movements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqFV_3tUX8
  • [00:59:18] <toneeee> yates: we only had parakeets , heh.
  • [01:03:27] <yates> toneeee: much safer...
  • [01:03:37] <Russ> had a couple of cockatiels
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  • [01:44:30] <Russ> w00t, new ELC poster came out http://i.imgur.com/zxv5mNE.jpg
  • [01:49:33] <mranostay> heh
  • [01:49:51] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [02:56:49] <mrpackethead_> right connnectors all changed.
  • [02:57:33] <toneeee> finished Battle Beyond the Stars, lol
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  • [03:11:57] <mrpackethead_> two people shot at gun appreciation day
  • [03:11:59] <mrpackethead_> http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/19/1473881/two-people-accidentally-shot-at-a-gun-show-safety-checkpoint-on-gun-appreciation-day/?mobile=nc
  • [03:15:32] <Russ> in other news, individual injured by car at driver safety class
  • [03:17:59] <mranostay> Russ: i like the "far-right" reference in that article :)
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  • [03:19:52] <mrpackethead_> so there were several peopel shot at differnet gun appreication days
  • [03:19:54] <mrpackethead_> around the USA
  • [03:21:33] <mrpackethead_> so, the customer is happ
  • [03:21:39] <mrpackethead_> connectors are changed
  • [03:21:53] <mrpackethead_> they just wnat a workign prototype in 10 days
  • [03:21:54] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [03:21:57] <toneeee> you changed them to screw terminals ?
  • [03:22:46] <mrpackethead_> phoenix MSTB
  • [03:22:48] <mrpackethead_> two part
  • [03:23:25] <mrpackethead_> but i was able to fit them onto the board, leaving the footprint for the XLR's as well
  • [03:23:31] <toneeee> ahh yes
  • [03:23:33] <mrpackethead_> so, it's actualy quite a nice mod
  • [03:23:54] <mrpackethead_> for a permanant installation the screw terminals make good sense
  • [03:25:56] <toneeee> yeah that's true, like in industrial controller situations
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  • [03:30:31] <mrpackethead_> next job is to think about how to rebuild a beagle
  • [03:30:39] <mrpackethead_> from strach
  • [03:30:49] <mrpackethead_> thats kinda big step up for me!
  • [03:31:36] <toneeee> you going to re-implement the circuit board? or build a whole new netlist?
  • [03:31:58] <mrpackethead_> theres a few pins on teh BGA i need
  • [03:32:04] <mrpackethead_> that are not connected
  • [03:32:11] <toneeee> beauty. :(
  • [03:32:23] <mrpackethead_> i want to implement ethercat
  • [03:32:27] <mrpackethead_> like the ICE PCB
  • [03:32:40] <Russ> mranostay, I suppose a car show would be a better example though
  • [03:33:05] <mrpackethead_> Russ: how many people get kileld at "car appreication days" by cars?
  • [03:33:30] <Russ> probably quite a few
  • [03:33:37] <Russ> I've seen people do really dumb things and car shows
  • [03:33:46] <mrpackethead_> im not convinced by the argument that more guns makes it safer though
  • [03:33:50] <Russ> and that's before the start the drinking
  • [03:34:10] <Russ> mrpackethead_, then you shouldn't be convinced that less would either
  • [03:34:56] <mrpackethead_> idiots with guns, ( and its idiots ) with guns dont' think about the consequences / risks assocaited with their actions
  • [03:35:04] <Russ> http://www.newschannel5.com/story/6675353/man-injured-at-charity-car-show-speaks-out
  • [03:35:06] <mrpackethead_> and are already intending to kill them selves anyway.
  • [03:35:28] <Russ> you could just say idiots don't think about the consequences /risks associated with their actions
  • [03:35:42] <mrpackethead_> thats exactly right
  • [03:35:51] <Russ> I totally agree, idiots who don't think about the consequences of their actions are a pox on society
  • [03:36:12] <mrpackethead_> so the arugment that more guns will stop shootings, is carp
  • [03:36:14] <mrpackethead_> is crap
  • [03:36:18] <mrpackethead_> its not fish
  • [03:36:20] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [03:36:34] <mrpackethead_> but so is the arugment that less guns will stop shootings
  • [03:36:49] <Russ> well, there have been isolated data points where more guns have stopped mass shootings, so you can't say its crap or crazy
  • [03:36:58] <Russ> you'd actually have to think about it a little harder
  • [03:37:09] <mranostay> well less legal guns aren't going to stop shootings
  • [03:37:16] <mrpackethead_> it might just mean that crazy nutters have to work a little harder to get something
  • [03:37:36] <mrpackethead_> are you going to bad 3d printers?
  • [03:37:42] <mrpackethead_> i can download and print a gun
  • [03:37:42] <mranostay> well i can assure you criminals don't follow all the rules to get one
  • [03:37:46] <Russ> 3d print regulation will come
  • [03:37:59] <Russ> especially when they can make things with the strength of steel and aluminum
  • [03:38:06] <mrpackethead_> i guess you can pay for illegal gusn with bitcoins
  • [03:38:06] <mranostay> Russ: hehe :)
  • [03:38:13] <Russ> MINE!
  • [03:38:29] <toneeee> we should make a lower receiver cape and mine bitcoins with guns
  • [03:38:49] <Russ> wheee!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hXMCagemRk
  • [03:38:52] <mrpackethead_> is the FBI getting a list of all the people who buy FPGA based Bitminers.
  • [03:39:13] <mrpackethead_> because you know they are doing that to get bitcoins to buy illegal stuff.
  • [03:40:01] <mrpackethead_> are there any bitmining worms?
  • [03:40:27] <Russ> I need to start to train my pets to bitmine
  • [03:40:28] <toneeee> the Impossible Mission Force has a truckload of Cyclone Vs driving around Europe
  • [03:40:49] <mrpackethead_> theres plenty of computing power out there to steal, and goodness knows how many people who dont' keep their windwos secure..
  • [03:41:00] <mrpackethead_> you just need to steal cpu cycles from them.
  • [03:41:25] <mrpackethead_> if you were smart
  • [03:41:34] <mrpackethead_> you'd implement an antivirus inside your worm
  • [03:41:49] <mrpackethead_> to sure up the system you stole, so no-one else can steal it.
  • [03:42:20] <mrpackethead_> a millon home PC's must be able to mine a little bit
  • [03:42:52] <mrpackethead_> crazy thoughts..
  • [03:42:59] <mrpackethead_> just as well, i dont' own a gun
  • [03:43:02] <mrpackethead_> and i 'm not a nutter
  • [03:43:24] <emeb_mac> that's what all the nutters say. ;)
  • [03:44:00] <mrpackethead_> anyway..
  • [03:44:25] <mrpackethead_> a rebuild of the beagle onto a new platform is an interestinly scary propositino for me
  • [03:44:35] <mrpackethead_> some new technologys to learn
  • [03:44:39] <mrpackethead_> aka multilayer Pcbs
  • [03:44:42] <mrpackethead_> bgas
  • [03:45:59] <emeb_mac> finding a CM who can do POP.
  • [03:46:14] <toneeee> yeah I was about to add PoP
  • [03:46:50] <mrpackethead_> PoP?
  • [03:46:54] <emeb_mac> BGAs in and of themselves aren't that huge a deal
  • [03:46:59] <emeb_mac> Package on Package
  • [03:47:03] <mrpackethead_> oh..
  • [03:47:14] <emeb_mac> the micron memory on the Beagle is on top of the MCU
  • [03:47:15] <toneeee> there's a neat video of Raspberry Pi PoP assembly.
  • [03:47:28] <mrpackethead_> ok, i've got to run.
  • [03:47:34] <mrpackethead_> l8r.
  • [03:47:42] <toneeee> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2675
  • [03:47:57] <toneeee> seey mah
  • [03:48:00] <toneeee> err mph
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  • [06:06:53] <mrpackethead_> toneeee: sorry i missed you before
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  • [06:25:28] <hchapman> Are there any good write-ups on how companys/teams manage their local OE setups vs upstream?
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  • [06:37:21] <mranostay> git merge?
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  • [06:48:29] <sr105_> mranostay: I was looking for a bit more. I'm still learning OE-core, but I'm wondering if teams usually create their own layer and put all customizations there. I always seem to be tweaking recipes in OE-dev. And there are multiple layers all used to produce our build??? do people just pick a release from yocto or Angstrom, freeze to it, and then update everything whenever the upstream distro releases? etc...
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  • [06:50:23] <sr105_> sorry about the multiple nicks, I'm testing out three irc clients. I'll try to stick to this window for replies.
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  • [07:05:57] <mranostay> well you should use your own overlay if you aren't pushing upstream
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  • [07:11:17] <_av500_> everybody is upstreamin', no?
  • [07:12:07] <hchapman> are there any write-ups about setting up OE for teams? i.e. using the sstate-cache or some sort of package server. Most of my devs work on one or two apps while I maintain the system-level stuff. If I tweak Qt, I'd like them to be able to just pull my changes rather than have to wait 1-4 hours for their next build.
  • [07:12:14] <dm8tbr> _av500_: this ain't meego
  • [07:12:57] <hchapman> our changes aren't really upstreamable I think. Mostly, we remove functionality, or add things for a proprietary board.
  • [07:13:27] <hchapman> although, we would certainly push up any bug fixes.
  • [07:14:20] <hchapman> honestly, I would love to be at the point where I was up to speed on my own project with enough time to find and fix upstream bugs.
  • [07:14:29] <dm8tbr> IIRC you could generate an 'sdk' or something like that
  • [07:15:39] <hchapman> My debs (only 4) sometimes need to produce full build images, so I give them VMs with a full build environment for OE. I have considered your suggestion and I think they might prefer SDKs.
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  • [07:48:06] <mvt007geek> hi can someone help me to add a serial port?
  • [07:48:17] <mvt007geek> i used minicom/picocom but i don't now how understand which port (ttys0,usb0,....) and which rate i should choos.plzhelp me
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  • [07:51:03] <mranostay> heh McAfee on Dateline is pretty interesting :)
  • [07:54:59] <mranostay> i can only hope RMS become this nuts
  • [08:01:06] <thurbad> mvt007geek: what OS?
  • [08:02:13] <mvt007geek> ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4
  • [08:03:12] <thurbad> is the host machine linux?
  • [08:03:58] <mvt007geek> ubuntu for board...but pc is debian
  • [08:04:33] <thurbad> mvt007geek: try ls /dev/ttyU*
  • [08:05:00] <thurbad> generally it will be /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [08:05:18] <mrpackethead_> with the beagle its often /dev/ttyUSB1
  • [08:05:36] <mrpackethead_> as the beagle presents two serial devices..
  • [08:06:54] <mvt007geek> what about pandaboard?
  • [08:07:17] <mrpackethead_> no idea
  • [08:07:35] <mrpackethead_> ls /dev/ttyU* before you plug it in
  • [08:07:45] <mrpackethead_> then ls /dev/ttyU* after you plug it in
  • [08:07:50] <mrpackethead_> see what the differnece is
  • [08:08:21] <mrpackethead_> and thats probalby your port
  • [08:08:43] <mvt007geek> don't know the right commands
  • [08:09:07] <mvt007geek> dmesg | grep tty ??
  • [08:09:36] <thurbad> no... ls /dev/ttyU*
  • [08:11:48] <mvt007geek> ls: cannot access /dev/ttyU: No such file or directory
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  • [08:14:16] <thurbad> are you using a serial-usb converter?
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  • [08:17:43] <KotH> mvt007geek: have a look at /var/log/syslog when you plug the adapter in, it tells you which device file it gets
  • [08:18:26] <mvt007geek> thurbad: rs232 cable that i use to connect to my pc
  • [08:18:37] <KotH> ^^'
  • [08:18:43] <KotH> ttyS*
  • [08:18:57] <mrpackethead_> please follow the instructions
  • [08:19:04] <mrpackethead_> mostly we don't waste keystrokes
  • [08:19:35] <mrpackethead_> mvt007geek: what are you connecting to what
  • [08:19:43] <mrpackethead_> a pandaboard to a PC?
  • [08:19:51] <mvt007geek> yes
  • [08:20:01] <mrpackethead_> this is #beagle
  • [08:20:26] <mvt007geek> i know.but there is not many people who answer me
  • [08:20:36] <mvt007geek> that's the reason i am here
  • [08:20:40] <thurbad> should be a similar process
  • [08:21:00] <mrpackethead_> but it dobules as #baconbeercape sometimes and #gundebate and #bytecoinsareascam
  • [08:21:01] <thurbad> besides... how often are we strictly on topic?
  • [08:21:21] <KotH> thurbad: every time we talk about guns, chocolate and trolls
  • [08:21:29] <mrpackethead_> thurbad: how often are we on topic
  • [08:21:40] <mranostay> someone say trolls?
  • [08:21:47] <thurbad> mmmm.. guns
  • [08:21:48] <mrpackethead_> i've never heard chocolate being talked about
  • [08:22:00] <mrpackethead_> thurbad: actually 3d printers.
  • [08:22:01] <mranostay> KotH loves chocolate
  • [08:22:12] <mranostay> 3d printed chocolate?
  • [08:22:20] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: thats been done!!!
  • [08:22:28] <KotH> apropopos ... havent had any chocolate today yet
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  • [08:22:36] * KotH must correct this imediatly
  • [08:22:41] <mrpackethead_> https://chocedge.com
  • [08:23:13] <KotH> mranostay: cool!
  • [08:23:22] <mrpackethead_> https://chocedge.com
  • [08:23:28] <mvt007geek> i use tail -f
  • [08:23:29] <KotH> er...
  • [08:23:33] <KotH> mrpackethead_: coool!
  • [08:23:37] <mvt007geek> well...now i tail -f /var/log/syslog
  • [08:23:46] <mrpackethead_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FUq_2IU2Uo&feature=player_embedded
  • [08:24:19] <mranostay> how does PLL work with radio signals?
  • [08:24:21] * mranostay googles
  • [08:24:32] <KotH> mrpackethead_: a shame, they dont use l?derach as chcolate
  • [08:24:46] <mvt007geek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551252/
  • [08:25:05] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: perety much the same way an PLL works
  • [08:25:12] <mrpackethead_> s/an/any
  • [08:26:01] <mrpackethead_> mvt007geek: no idea which is your serial port
  • [08:26:06] <KotH> mranostay: what's your prob with plls?
  • [08:26:52] <mvt007geek> it seems chocolate is more important for u....hahaha...such a funny room.....leave you alone with your chocolates
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  • [08:28:17] <KotH> lol
  • [08:28:26] <KotH> ofcourse chocolate is more important!
  • [08:28:49] <mranostay> KotH: not a RF guy more is the issue
  • [08:29:07] <KotH> mranostay: for plls you dont have to be a rf guy, but a control guy
  • [08:29:10] <KotH> helps you a lot more
  • [08:32:33] <mrpackethead_> oddly i need an RF guy or need to buy an RF receiver cape
  • [08:32:47] <KotH> mranostay: btw: look for "phase locked loops" by Best
  • [08:32:57] <KotH> mranostay: there are digital copies floating around the intarwebz
  • [08:33:16] <KotH> mranostay: it tells you everything you need to know about plls in simple words
  • [08:33:35] <KotH> mrpackethead_: what for?
  • [08:33:50] <KotH> mrpackethead_: and which frequency band? modulation? protocol?
  • [08:34:20] <mrpackethead_> dont' know yet
  • [08:34:21] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [08:34:28] <KotH> lol
  • [08:34:42] <KotH> if you can choose yourself, have a look at the rf modules from ti and microchip
  • [08:34:46] <mrpackethead_> its likely to be UHF
  • [08:34:52] <KotH> these are pretty easy to use solutions
  • [08:35:04] <mrpackethead_> narrow band telemetry
  • [08:35:16] <KotH> and because they are pre build systems, you dont have to get another rf certification but normal emi tests
  • [08:35:19] <mrpackethead_> i only need to Receiv
  • [08:35:31] <KotH> oh..
  • [08:35:33] <mrpackethead_> TX already exists
  • [08:35:48] <KotH> then ask the guy who designed the sender, he should know :)
  • [08:36:02] <mrpackethead_> will find out
  • [08:36:12] <mrpackethead_> the intended "receivers" are large bits of gear
  • [08:36:22] <mrpackethead_> because they also include TX
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  • [08:36:57] <mrpackethead_> as usual i'm contemplating an applicaiton that has never been used before.
  • [08:37:09] <KotH> join the club :)
  • [08:37:25] <mrpackethead_> and we are silly enough to take this on..
  • [08:37:36] <mrpackethead_> the client will want 6000 of them though.
  • [08:37:55] <mrpackethead_> i get board after buildign #2
  • [08:38:00] <KotH> oh.. so you will have to design a tester as well
  • [08:38:02] <mrpackethead_> #1 says i can build it.
  • [08:38:10] <mrpackethead_> #2 says i can built it twice
  • [08:38:23] <mrpackethead_> #3 says, i shoudl be hiring someone to build the rest
  • [08:38:45] <mrpackethead_> there will no doubt be a ready made module
  • [08:39:39] <mrpackethead_> ideally, i'd have osmething that requires +V, GND.. and provides an audio out
  • [08:39:41] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [08:39:49] <mrpackethead_> and not a lot else of RF engineering
  • [08:40:19] <KotH> hmm? audio? for telemetry?
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  • [08:40:30] <mrpackethead_> yes, audio for telemtry
  • [08:40:38] <KotH> sounds 80s
  • [08:40:51] <mranostay> some say telemetry? :)
  • [08:41:07] * mranostay sleeps
  • [08:41:19] <KotH> oyasumi mranostay
  • [08:41:52] <mrpackethead_> KotH: not 80's
  • [08:41:55] <mrpackethead_> not even 70's
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  • [08:42:18] <mrpackethead_> 1967
  • [08:42:26] <mrpackethead_> but turned into a standard in 1972
  • [08:43:48] <KotH> prehistoric!
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  • [08:47:16] <mrpackethead_> yes somewhat
  • [08:47:17] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [08:48:32] <mrpackethead_> RF is the only option
  • [08:48:37] <mrpackethead_> Wifi is not an option!
  • [08:48:46] <mrpackethead_> its one to many
  • [08:48:50] <mrpackethead_> aka broadcast
  • [08:48:57] <KotH> if it's such an old standard, wouldnt it be pretty simple to design a simple rf receiver?
  • [08:49:19] <KotH> i guess it's just an AM modulation, probably not evn SSB
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  • [08:50:34] <mrpackethead_> the standard doestn specify what the aduio is carried over
  • [08:51:26] <KotH> and what does your system use? :)
  • [08:52:01] <mrpackethead_> i dont' know
  • [08:52:04] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [08:52:05] <mrpackethead_> yet
  • [08:52:20] <mrpackethead_> waiting for information
  • [08:56:07] <KotH> heh
  • [08:56:12] <KotH> and you still accepted the project?
  • [08:56:18] <KotH> you are crazy! :-)
  • [08:58:08] <mrpackethead_> i accepted to look at the project
  • [08:58:09] <mrpackethead_> :-)
  • [08:58:33] <dm8tbr> use an RTL-SDR, be done with it ;)
  • [08:58:58] <mrpackethead_> i think its UHF ( about 480Mhz ) FM
  • [09:00:03] <KotH> ah.. them it's probably 70cm ism band, there are ready to use chips for that
  • [09:00:24] <dm8tbr> 70cm ISM was rather undefined back-then???
  • [09:00:48] <dm8tbr> but might be commercial or scientific 70cm bands
  • [09:01:13] <mrpackethead_> just wanting to find out
  • [09:02:42] <mrpackethead_> what i'd like to do is stick one on a cape.
  • [09:04:47] <KotH> wouldnt a custom design be cheaper for 6k pieces?
  • [09:06:25] <mrpackethead_> might be
  • [09:06:31] <mrpackethead_> but not for a prototype
  • [09:06:41] <KotH> ofc
  • [09:09:11] <KotH> just for reference: a while ago, we did an i.mx23 based wifi system, 500pcs and iirc it was 70usd per board
  • [09:18:09] <_av500_> too expensive
  • [09:18:14] <_av500_> you are killing the company
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  • [12:18:07] <crashovrd> ok, im having no joy with this beagleboard C3
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  • [12:18:20] <crashovrd> is there a binary
  • [12:18:43] <crashovrd> that provides 1) gles2 2) openvg 3)openmax il ?
  • [12:19:08] <crashovrd> tried the angstrom stuff
  • [12:19:25] <crashovrd> tried narcissus
  • [12:19:33] <crashovrd> and it just kernel panics a lot
  • [12:19:38] <crashovrd> i dont need X11
  • [12:19:41] <crashovrd> i dont need a desktop
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  • [12:19:48] <crashovrd> i dont care if its hardfloat or soft
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  • [12:20:59] <crashovrd> not planning on producing products on omap3, so its not worth compiling kernel, drivers, and devoting resources to
  • [12:21:32] <crashovrd> i was just hoping that there may be a functional distro, binary, or something even hacked together
  • [12:22:20] <dm8tbr> probably best way would be to dig out an older SGX driver release from TI
  • [12:22:34] <dm8tbr> that wasn't broken on 3430
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  • [13:05:38] <AndrevS> Regarding the SGX driver, is it still soft-float only, or does a hard-float version exist too nowadays?
  • [13:09:53] <dm8tbr> there was one by Nokia for their MeeGo development
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  • [13:47:14] <AndrevS> was? Isn't it availabe anymore? (at least I haven't found it yet)
  • [13:47:58] <dm8tbr> it probably still is available
  • [13:48:23] <dm8tbr> actually has to. Nemomobile is using it for both N900 and N9/N950
  • [13:49:40] <koen> GLES is fixed point
  • [13:49:54] <koen> so questions about floating point don't make sense for that
  • [13:50:33] <AndrevS> Anyhow, I was just looking for OpenMAX support on a hard-float distro. I remember long ago there was this discussion, hardware acceleration not supported due soft-float libraries.
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  • [13:51:06] <crashovrd> i triend out the unbuntu release for beagle and ran into that issue
  • [13:51:09] <Crofton|work> hard-float versus soft-float is really bad way to name the api change
  • [13:51:10] <crashovrd> its a hardfloat abi
  • [13:51:26] <crashovrd> and there apparently were no hardfloat drivers made by TI for it
  • [13:51:30] <mru> Crofton|work: it's a great way to _hype_ the change
  • [13:51:42] <Crofton|work> and cause massive confusion
  • [13:51:56] <mru> canonical thrives on confusion
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  • [19:34:56] <hitlin37> any dsp guy hanging around who knows beamforming?
  • [19:36:46] <_av500_> laser beams?
  • [19:37:04] <mru> use sharks
  • [19:37:16] <_av500_> hitlin37: you know the drill, ask dont ask to ask
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  • [19:40:56] <hitlin37> i'm measuring input and output SNR ,two microphones,same source.first time noise is uncorrealted.2nd time its not uncoorelated and positined at 30 degree.in second case difference between input and output SNR reduces to half in magnitude.reason?
  • [19:41:44] <hitlin37> i have applied delay and sum algo
  • [19:45:06] <emeb> must still be some uncorrelated noise in the signal that's being RSSed out.
  • [19:52:59] <mranostay> morning
  • [19:53:06] <_av500_> hath broken
  • [19:53:08] <mranostay> barely
  • [19:53:31] * mranostay pictures av500 singing
  • [19:53:58] <_av500_> pictures of it are safe to consume
  • [19:54:14] <mranostay> with alcohol?
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  • [20:33:40] <Crofton|work> beamforming? in here?
  • [20:34:50] <emeb> iknowrite?
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  • [21:03:42] <alan_o> yo mranostay
  • [21:07:11] <mranostay> crap
  • [21:07:18] <mranostay> i mean hi alan_o :)
  • [21:07:42] <alan_o> hehe
  • [21:07:46] <alan_o> hey, quick question....
  • [21:08:01] <alan_o> on your cape, how much do you care about using pins that might want to be used by other capes?
  • [21:08:33] <alan_o> In theory its best to avoid them right, but in practice, that seems pretty hard other than really basic stuff
  • [21:08:53] <alan_o> like how many jumpers and jumper settings are practical for that stuff, and then there's the device tree.
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  • [21:09:11] <mranostay> well you could do jumpers
  • [21:09:42] <alan_o> so my stuff is SPI, so I'm going to burn a CS pin, but I can dip switch that. It's the other lines I'm worried abut (reset, wake, interrupt)
  • [21:09:42] <mranostay> or use the address DIP switch to set the 'jumpers' as well
  • [21:10:01] <alan_o> do you do that on yours?
  • [21:10:03] <mranostay> you could totally eff and release magic smoke
  • [21:10:07] <mranostay> *up
  • [21:12:18] <mranostay> alan_o: and no it is all static
  • [21:13:02] * mru waits for someone to invent capepnp
  • [21:13:15] <mranostay> heh
  • [21:13:28] <alan_o> hi mru, welcome back :)
  • [21:16:20] <Russ> you could just swizzle
  • [21:16:30] <Russ> like if you use spi0, give the next cape spi1 :)
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  • [21:55:04] <mranostay> ka6sox: much clearer
  • [21:55:29] <ka6sox> quite
  • [21:55:53] <ka6sox> someone told me I was "away"
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  • [22:05:19] <emeb> where are you if not away?
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  • [22:25:00] <mranostay> emeb: in his own little world
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  • [23:02:35] <ka6sox> mranostay, thats when I am -farfaraway ...
  • [23:04:24] * mranostay updates slides
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  • [23:09:50] <mru> ka6sox: is that a gcc flag?
  • [23:10:14] <mranostay> mru: you are the compiler guy :P
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  • [23:16:06] <ka6sox> :(
  • [23:16:08] <ka6sox> whoops
  • [23:16:13] <ka6sox> kant typ
  • [23:16:22] <ka6sox> its probably a linker flag.
  • [23:16:52] <mru> well, I've heard of far pointers
  • [23:17:18] <mru> I guess they had to extend that concept when writing the software for that mars rover
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  • [23:17:26] <mranostay> mru: some x86 shit?
  • [23:17:43] <mru> many cpus have had segmented memory
  • [23:17:53] <ka6sox> many
  • [23:19:09] <mranostay> dammit nodejs talk next to me at this coffee shop
  • [23:19:20] <mranostay> i cannot escape it
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  • [23:20:33] <ka6sox> talk about Corsets in the next booth from me...
  • [23:21:15] <thurbad> nodejs is hipster now?
  • [23:21:16] <mranostay> er wtf are you at?
  • [23:21:26] <mhaberler> any chance of a beaglebone kernel which can be patched with the ipipe 3.5.3 patches?
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  • [23:22:41] <ka6sox> mranostay, I dare say the convo in the booth next to me is more interesting than the one next to you!
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  • [23:23:01] <mranostay> ka6sox: ah yes it would appears so
  • [23:23:35] <mranostay> mru: what about the mars rover?
  • [23:24:27] <mru> mranostay: it's rather far away
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  • [23:25:37] <ka6sox> well..that was "interesting"
  • [23:25:52] <mranostay> expert in corsets now?
  • [23:26:05] <ka6sox> more than I ever wanted to know...
  • [23:27:34] <mranostay> were the women talking about it under 70? :)
  • [23:27:57] <mru> mranostay: why do you assume they were women?
  • [23:28:00] <thurbad> where they talking about man corsets? :D
  • [23:28:13] <ka6sox> <30, Female
  • [23:28:40] <emeb_mac> AIUI that's all the rage in goth/vintage circles these days.
  • [23:28:57] <ka6sox> these "girls" qualify
  • [23:29:27] <mranostay> goth != hipster
  • [23:29:29] <mru> emeb_mac: well, if you want to dress victorian-style, it's a must-have
  • [23:29:47] <mranostay> at least goths i can deal with
  • [23:29:57] <ka6sox> I did find out that 1 size fits all is a myth...
  • [23:29:58] <ka6sox> :D
  • [23:29:59] <thurbad> heh
  • [23:30:02] <mru> goths are quirky but otherwise ok
  • [23:30:06] <emeb_mac> there's a shop in Berkeley that the missus likes to visit that's like grand-central for that stuff.
  • [23:30:21] <emeb_mac> I usually sit in the car and read...
  • [23:31:33] <mrpackethead_> the mill is chugging along
  • [23:32:30] <mranostay> mru: well quirky is fine if you are never on planning on call them again :)
  • [23:32:35] <mranostay> *calling
  • [23:33:10] <emeb_mac> the right kind of quirky and you might call back sooner. :)
  • [23:33:35] <mdp> mhaberler: there's a gap between 3.3-3.5 inclusive for bone/am33xx, so no. you'd have to backport stuff from the beagleboard/kernel 3.6 branch
  • [23:34:00] <ka6sox> mhaberler, I gave up on the 3.5 strain...switching to 3.8.x
  • [23:34:01] <mhaberler> thanks
  • [23:34:17] <mranostay> emeb_mac: *no comment*
  • [23:34:19] <mhaberler> there's no ipipe patch for 3.8 yet
  • [23:35:05] <mranostay> emeb_mac: ka6sox: you guys embrace DT yet?
  • [23:35:09] <ka6sox> mranostay, don't discount quirky...its a "good thing"
  • [23:35:21] <mhaberler> is 3.8 torvalds reasonable usable with with the bb yet?
  • [23:35:33] <ka6sox> mranostay, I'm not "embracing" the DT side yet...I'm exploring...
  • [23:35:34] <emeb_mac> mranostay: not yet. need to understand it better.
  • [23:35:48] <mru> in my experience 2.6.32 was the last reasonably usable kernel on bb
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  • [23:36:29] <ka6sox> mru, I agree...the entire 3.x strain is like trying to catch a freight traing roaring by.
  • [23:36:35] <mdp> mhaberler: if uart and cpsw are all the i/o you need, yes.
  • [23:36:39] <ka6sox> -g
  • [23:41:03] * mranostay wave to mdp
  • [23:41:07] <mranostay> *waves even
  • [23:43:07] <emeb_mac> more that one
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  • [23:44:14] <mdp> mranostay, hello
  • [23:44:21] * mdp wave back.
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  • [23:46:02] <mranostay> mdp: how goes the hard BoF prep? :)
  • [23:47:26] <mdp> brutal
  • [23:49:29] <mdp> it appears my personal assistance will be coming along too
  • [23:49:40] <mranostay> heh
  • [23:49:41] <mdp> s/assistance/assistant/
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  • [23:51:51] <_av500_> oh
  • [23:52:01] <_av500_> so people have to behave around you....
  • [23:52:31] <_av500_> mru: 2.6.32 was a golden PSP kernel
  • [23:52:59] <mru> _av500_: even linux-omap 2.6.32 works pretty well
  • [23:53:20] <mru> tony's tree, that is
  • [23:53:23] <mranostay> _av500_: i think she know's mdp works with characters
  • [23:53:41] <mru> mranostay: ascii characters?
  • [23:53:42] <ka6sox> mdp, where is this BoF to take place?
  • [23:54:17] <mdp> _av500_: we call it a gold-plated POS
  • [23:54:34] <mru> a polished turd?
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  • [23:54:41] <mdp> highly polished
  • [23:54:50] <mranostay> nice visual
  • [23:55:02] <mru> mdp: I wasn't talking about the psp kernel originally
  • [23:55:11] <mdp> ka6sox: at ELC, in the Parc 55 hotel.
  • [23:55:40] <mru> ka6sox: probably in the dungeon^W basement
  • [23:55:56] <mdp> hehe
  • [23:56:00] <mdp> a suitable location
  • [23:56:09] <mranostay> heh there always seems to be one dungeon room at these things :)
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  • [23:56:24] <mranostay> they don't want marketing types wandering in
  • [23:56:25] <mdp> with chains and corsets
  • [23:56:27] * ka6sox signs up
  • [23:56:35] <ka6sox> er...having 2ond thoughts...
  • [23:57:08] <mranostay> don't want to see mdp in a corset?
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