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[00:15:25] <mranostay> in 2012 you'd think one coffee shop would have wifi that didn't suck
[00:15:44] <mru> can't see why they would
[00:15:50] <mru> even the coffee sucks in most
[00:16:32] <mranostay> yeah i do it mainly to get out of the apartment
[00:16:41] <mru> I only visit them on the off chance that the barista is cute
[00:17:17] <mranostay> well that too
[00:18:06] <mranostay> geez the degree thread is still going on?
[00:18:26] <mru> seems that way
[00:18:55] <mranostay> i love the hang with like people
[00:19:07] <mru> s/people/trolls/
[00:19:38] <mranostay> if that means get wasted after class i don't have to pop 80k+ on it :)
[00:19:56] <mru> education is free in sweden
[00:19:59] <mru> still didn't finish
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[00:20:07] <mranostay> heh
[00:20:19] <mranostay> mru: boring?
[00:20:36] <mru> master's thesis, yes
[00:20:51] <mru> all about form and execution, little about actual content
[00:21:15] <mru> it's mainly a primer for phd studies
[00:21:29] <mru> which I had no interest in pursuing
[00:21:53] <mranostay> Doctor Mans has a nice right to it
[00:23:43] <mranostay> mru: so the PRU has no concept of a stack correct?
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[00:26:08] <aztrovoi> hi
[00:26:44] <aztrovoi> one question
[00:26:56] <agmlego> One answer.,
[00:27:04] <aztrovoi> :)
[00:27:16] <aztrovoi> for how long can the beagleboard be turned on?
[00:27:24] <xenome> has anyone had any success with midori and html5 video tags?
[00:27:33] <mru> aztrovoi: until it fails
[00:28:01] <mru> some of mine have been running more or less continuously for several years
[00:28:05] <aztrovoi> mru: how long was that before it happend?
[00:28:16] <aztrovoi> mru: amazing
[00:28:59] <aztrovoi> mru: which one do you recommend? beagleboard or beaglebone?
[00:29:07] <mranostay> my beagleboard xM has been on for i'd say two years minus moving it cross country
[00:29:24] <mranostay> aztrovoi: are you doing hardware hacking?
[00:29:49] <aztrovoi> mranostay: i;m planning to use it as a webserver
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[00:30:21] <aztrovoi> mranostay:but i was worried that if i left it on for a long time, it could be a problem
[00:30:32] <mru> none of these boards make good web servers
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[00:30:55] <mru> I hate to say it, but you're better off with something from marvell for that
[00:31:00] <mranostay> heh unless you are the only one visiting it :)
[00:31:02] <aztrovoi> mru: is that so? not even with kickass distro?
[00:31:12] <mranostay> hehe
[00:31:21] <mru> no distro can make a sata port magically appear
[00:31:46] <aztrovoi> @mru @mranostay: :(
[00:32:05] <mru> marvell have some chips with sata and GbE
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[00:32:17] <mranostay> mru: sata cape?
[00:32:27] <mru> sure...
[00:32:28] <W1N9Zr0> just bitbang sata
[00:32:30] <mranostay> can we bitbang it?
[00:33:23] <mru> I had this evil idea to implement sata over video out and camera in using lots of external logic
[00:33:28] <mru> no idea where to even begin on that
[00:33:30] <aztrovoi> @mru @mranostay: so beagle is a big no no for a lightweight server?
[00:33:41] <mranostay> mru: how are the drugs in the UK? :P
[00:33:51] <mru> mranostay: illegal
[00:34:07] <mranostay> well techically here as well
[00:34:22] <mranostay> although my back is starting to annoy me ;)
[00:34:30] <mru> hehe
[00:34:44] <mru> honestly, I don't smoke
[00:35:16] <aztrovoi> come to mexico... here are legal
[00:35:34] <aztrovoi> even cops buy them
[00:35:35] <mranostay> i value my head staying attached to my body k thx
[00:36:15] <mranostay> yeah i really want to end up ona episode of Locked Up Abroad
[00:36:31] <mru> that's why you travel with geiger tubes?
[00:36:49] <mranostay> that would be an interesting episode
[00:37:21] <mranostay> mru: what would be ther charge? spying?
[00:37:40] <mru> I've contemplated testing just how suspiciously you can behave at an airport before someone comes and starts asking questions
[00:39:15] <mranostay> mru: in the security line or just around it?
[00:39:27] <mru> anywhere
[00:40:20] <mranostay> be sure to do it on the return flight
[00:40:30] <mru> hehe
[00:41:05] <mru> I wouldn't even think of trying something like that outside europe though
[00:41:23] <mru> europe is still a little civilised
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[00:48:37] <mranostay> mru: i resent that sir!
[00:50:29] <mranostay> mdp: you here by the off chance?
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[01:02:50] <koen> mranostay: don't joke about bitbanging sata
[01:03:05] <koen> mranostay: I've had multiple customers wanting to do exactly that
[01:03:27] <koen> using gpio instead of gpmc
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[01:06:41] <mranostay> koen: are they doing crack cocaine? :)
[01:07:08] <mru> more like snorting ground-up rpis
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[01:20:56] <ds2> Nice... how fast did they get?
[01:22:39] <mranostay> ds2: ?
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[01:27:24] <xenome> does sound work with ubuntu 12.04?
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[01:29:53] <mranostay> well that is vague
[01:30:22] <xenome> I see a bunch of snd modules loaded, but I get no output and can't seem to open an alsa mixer
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[01:34:21] <mranostay> what board?
[01:34:25] <xenome> bbxm
[01:34:48] <xenome> i haven't tried to build the custom kernel yet as I can't get past the ia32-libs dependency yet
[01:35:16] <xenome> i started with rob nelson's ubuntu 12.04 image then did the lxde install
[01:35:29] <xenome> i guess I figured that would automagically get the sound system going
[01:36:05] <mru> try manually loading whichever of snd_soc_twl4030, snd_soc_omap3beagle, snd_soc_omap_mcbsp, snd_soc_omap are not loaded already
[01:36:17] <ds2> bitbang
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[01:37:57] <xenome> i have twl4030, omap, mcbsp, soc_core pcm snd snd_timer all loaded
[01:38:09] <xenome> looks like just no omap3beagle
[01:39:11] <mru> so modprobe it manually
[01:39:33] <mru> I fixed auto-loading of those modules some time last year
[01:40:05] <mru> but the patches got lost/ignored and they no longer apply cleanly
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[01:41:22] <mranostay> Crofton: war ballon?
[01:42:07] <Crofton> well
[01:42:18] <Crofton> they launched one that crossed the atlantic
[01:42:38] <Crofton> and some of the way there, It was dubbed the war ballon
[01:43:06] <Crofton> http://www.californianearspaceproject.com/
[01:43:47] <mru> californian ear space project?
[01:43:59] <mru> or "ears pace"?
[01:44:04] <mru> what are californian ears?
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[01:45:19] <Crofton> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FK6RPT-11&timerange=259200
[01:49:04] <xenome> mru: that looks like it helped, alsa finds a mixer now...but when I add mixer controls the only thing that looks like volume output is Earpiece level
[01:49:11] <xenome> is that really the primary output control?
[01:49:36] <mru> it's way more obscure
[01:50:55] <mru> or maybe they renamed it
[01:51:03] <mru> just mess around until you get sound
[01:51:46] <mru> try the Headset controls
[01:52:58] <mranostay> Crofton: what is the oribital rate at 20 miles up?
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[01:53:18] <xenome> hmm, no joy
[01:54:01] <xenome> have you installed any of the pulseaudio packages?
[01:54:15] <mru> no
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[01:59:04] <Crofton> mranostay, the wind drives the ballon
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[02:03:12] <xenome> oh crap, got it working...and now I've blown out my ears
[02:03:46] <xenome> thanks mru, looks like it was headset
[02:03:54] <edahling> Does anyone here know where I can find the function "am33xx_register_lcdc"
[02:04:06] <edahling> It gets called from lcdc_init, but I want to know exactly what it does.
[02:04:12] <edahling> I can't seem to find it though.
[02:04:34] <mru> grep is your friend
[02:05:15] <edahling> I ran 'grep -r "am33xx_register_lcdc"' last night and it still hasn't finished...
[02:05:17] <edahling> Or found anything.
[02:05:49] <xenome> if the omap3beagle module isn't loading automatically, should I just put it in /etc/modules?
[02:05:58] <xenome> or is this indicative of something more serious that needs addressing
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[02:17:08] <mranostay> Crofton: isn't it about 0.04 psi at that height?
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[02:22:18] <Crofton> the ballon expands a lot, yes
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[02:22:45] <Crofton> they fill the balloon so it reaches an equilibirum at some altitude
[02:22:54] <Crofton> preferably before it bursts :)
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[02:23:00] <Crofton> they use "science"
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[02:58:16] <mranostay> is the PRU only setting 200mhz?
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[03:00:14] <mranostay> ah never mind i didn't see the divisor field
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[03:33:10] <edahling> Has anyone ever tried to use a 24bbp lcd on the bone?
[03:44:42] <mranostay> people are clearly not googling now
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[04:05:32] <edahling> I meant the people actively here, I have googled around, and I'm having a lot of trouble. There is no reference to any 24bpp displays in board-am335xevm.c
[04:07:40] <edahling> My LCD shows the Angstrom boot prompt in green, and fb-test shows the wrong colors, but seemingly the correct image when I have my bpp set to 16, but I have it wired for 24bpp, when I try to set it to 24bpp, the boot prompt doesn't show up on my LCD and fb-test flickers and shows the wrong colors and a bunch of stuff it overlapping.
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[04:29:38] <mranostay> anyone know which GPIO bank the PRU is connected too?
[04:30:13] <mranostay> i am assume gpio0 but i fail to see the doc on this
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[05:14:07] <_av500_> mranostay: what kind of trolling is this?
[05:16:25] <mranostay> _av500_: me? i am asking a question :)
[05:17:16] <_av500_> exaclty
[05:17:24] <_av500_> trying to get fact in here!
[05:17:26] <_av500_> facts
[05:17:54] * mranostay pulls up the schematics..
[05:18:11] <mranostay> ah there they are
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[05:19:32] <mranostay> _av500_: trolls can't ask questions??!??
[05:21:24] <_av500_> they can
[05:22:22] <_av500_> like "Do you sell hubcaps for a '72 Pinto hatchback?"
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[05:25:18] <mranostay> i rather have a car that runs
[05:25:36] <mranostay> and doesn't catch fire and kill you
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[05:26:19] <_av500_> mranostay: its a movie quote
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[05:27:19] <mranostay> i am young remember
[05:27:24] <mranostay> which movie?
[05:27:30] <_av500_> clerks
[05:27:35] <mranostay> really?
[05:27:46] <KeatonT> o_O
[05:27:49] <mranostay> of course the last time i saw that i was stoned watching it... :)
[05:28:11] <KeatonT> Isn't that the only way to watch it?
[05:28:23] <mranostay> yes it is
[05:30:07] <mranostay> that and The Wall
[05:30:14] * mranostay misses his teen years
[05:30:59] <KeatonT> I know the feeling.
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[05:40:43] <_av500_> mranostay: ah, so you know :)
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[05:43:47] <KeatonT> I need to start working on my beagle bone project again.
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[06:00:11] <mranostay> _av500_: touched the PRU much?
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[06:08:05] <dm8tbr> _av500_: something for your plus-stream http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/mutts/s-1239910
[06:14:34] <mranostay> what does Garfield hate mondays btw?
[06:14:40] <mranostay> he is a cat that doesn't work
[06:15:32] <dm8tbr> maybe because his man servant has to go to work and can't serve him?
[06:16:08] <mranostay> what does Jon do again or is it ambiguous?
[06:17:59] <dm8tbr> http://garfield.wikia.com/wiki/Jon_Arbuckle doesn't look like it's mentioning anything
[06:19:19] <dm8tbr> maybe he's on welfare? ;)
[06:20:48] <dm8tbr> ah, there it says 'cartoonist'
[06:23:02] <xenome> anyone recognize this error: omapdss DPI error: failed to enable display: no manager
[06:23:16] <xenome> i get it when I try to run with the omapfb driver in ubuntu/12.04
[06:23:26] <xenome> and then my screen just blanks out
[06:24:11] <mranostay> wow 1978?..
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[06:50:11] <_av500_> mranostay: yes, reality existed back then
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[06:58:00] <mranostay> not for me it didn't
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[07:05:59] <mranostay> _av500_: i'm cooking bacon now
[07:10:05] <KotH> moin
[07:10:17] <KotH> mranostay: bacon is bad for your karma
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[07:18:36] <mranostay> KotH: it is?
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[08:14:34] <KotH> mranostay: the holy book says so!
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[08:26:05] <LetoThe2nd> KotH: the "Lustiges Tachenbuch"?
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[08:26:30] <KotH> LetoThe2nd: nope, that one says "thou shall not eat ducks!"
[08:26:54] <LetoThe2nd> KotH: ah.
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[11:02:34] <lucius> Hello
[11:02:55] <mru> world
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[11:06:35] <av500> ;
[11:08:15] <mru> end.
[11:08:43] <LetoThe2nd> return -ENOCONTEXT
[11:09:13] <mru> -EEXPECTATIONTOOHIGH
[11:09:32] <av500> -ENOTANERRORJUSTKIDDINGYOU
[11:09:58] <mru> -ENOSUCHERROR
[11:10:49] <LetoThe2nd> av500: wait, you are just accusing a swede of NO TAN?
[11:12:04] <mru> who needs TAN? SIN and COS ought to be enough for anyone
[11:12:12] <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr
[11:12:16] <av500> LetoThe2nd: some people use a TAN generator
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[11:12:54] <panto> hi dsap
[11:13:09] <av500> beware greeks bearing gifts
[11:13:11] <LetoThe2nd> av500: a tan generator ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:715px-Sunbedoff_large.jpg
[11:13:18] <mru> av500: with the right (wrong?) kind of lamp, that'll give you an arc tan
[11:13:30] <av500> a tan with a fan
[11:13:35] <LetoThe2nd> av500: greeks bearing ouzo?
[11:13:45] <av500> is that to blow the burned skin flakes away?
[11:14:01] <panto> ouch
[11:14:14] <panto> fwiw, ouzo won't help there
[11:14:27] <LetoThe2nd> panto: doesn't ouzo always help?
[11:14:35] <av500> this is so much easier to use: http://hunger.bluephod.net/pictures/partygyros.jpg
[11:14:45] <av500> nice tan
[11:14:48] <panto> LetoThe2nd, no, and you don't want to get drunk with it
[11:14:55] <dm8tbr> cute
[11:15:25] <LetoThe2nd> panto: well my ouzo experiences, especially in greece have been mostly pleasant ;)
[11:15:35] * av500 could use a wantan generator though
[11:15:45] <LetoThe2nd> av500: now you reminded me of lunch time.
[11:16:07] <panto> LetoThe2nd, heh, you didn't get drunk with it
[11:16:12] <panto> the worst possible hangover
[11:16:18] <av500> LetoThe2nd: same happened here
[11:16:22] <LetoThe2nd> panto: i certainly disagree.
[11:16:28] * av500 is off for a 22
[11:16:40] <panto> ouzo is about the paraphernalia
[11:16:54] <panto> summer at the beach, and nice tasty mezes on the side
[11:16:55] <LetoThe2nd> panto: the worst hangover ever comes from a mixture of whiskey, jagermeister and 78%rum in equal share.
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[11:17:09] <panto> LetoThe2nd, rocket fuel are exempt :)
[11:17:18] <LetoThe2nd> panto: why?
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[11:17:35] <panto> you could go to the moon using that as fuel for your rocket
[11:17:42] <av500> LetoThe2nd: the greek air force confiscated all 78% rum
[11:17:47] <LetoThe2nd> av500: hrhrhr
[11:18:13] <LetoThe2nd> panto: the next day you will feel as if you alnded on your way back from the moon without paraglides.
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[11:42:43] <xenome> anyone recognize this error: omapdss DPI error: failed to enable display: no manager
[11:42:45] <xenome> i get it when I try to run with the omapfb driver in ubuntu/12.04
[11:42:47] <xenome> and then my screen just blanks out
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[12:00:18] <katie_> hi,i am not able to use ethernet. i have remove USB driver by deselecting "USB Support" in "Device Driver" using "make menuconfig" but i have not done anythin with network support.
[12:00:48] <mru> which board?
[12:00:59] <katie_> Beagle Board xm
[12:01:05] <mru> ethernet is connected over usb there
[12:01:47] <katie_> thanks for answering
[12:02:51] <mru> np, it's what we do
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[13:13:22] <nlog> Hi, where should I best modify .config before running "bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile .f" again for BeagleBone?
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[13:55:37] <carl__> Good morning everyone... I'm currently having some problems with my Beaglebone... Last Friday I used "shutdown now" to power off the card and unplugged the power cord. This morning, nothing??? I was unable to boot the board. I've developed a custom cape with a XBee receptor and a GPS receptor. Normally, the board is powered by the cape. I tried to boot the board without the cape and by powering the board through the 5V port, and the D1
[13:56:02] <carl__> than a second. I'm using the A6 Revision of the board. Do you have some ideas for me? Thanks :)
[13:56:23] <panto> carl__, it is possible you fried the board
[13:56:43] <panto> can you try to boot with a known good mmc card?
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[13:58:06] <carl__> I thought of that, and I don't have another mmc card of 4gigs available...
[13:58:22] <panto> hmm
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[13:58:35] <panto> a simple way to see if the board is fried is to remove the mmc card and power on
[13:58:45] <carl__> what should happend ?
[13:58:48] <carl__> *happen?
[13:58:57] <panto> if you see a string of 'CCCCC' in the serial port the cpu should be OK
[13:59:09] <panto> it's the rom loader
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[14:01:46] <jonand> I managed to fry the sdcard slot on a beagleboard xM (one of three xm boards I have). That board outputs rom loader chars on the serial port but won't accept any card that boots perfectly fine on the other two boards. Something to dig into a rainy day... :)
[14:02:02] <jonand> No idea how it happened though.
[14:02:13] <mdp> carl__, be sure you remove any capes or other devices plugged in to the expansion connectors when trying panto's suggestion
[14:02:22] <panto> ah, yes :)
[14:02:31] <mdp> panto, lessons learned!
[14:02:45] <panto> right, don't let the magic smoke come out
[14:03:26] <jonand> My point is it is always valuable to have at least one more known good unit/board/sdcard for testing...
[14:03:47] <carl__> I just connected the board via USB, and no COM port showed up in the Peripheral manager. It seems like there is some kind of electrical protection, no?
[14:04:07] <carl__> No capes are connected on the board right now
[14:04:26] <av500> jonand: nice way to double sales :)
[14:04:27] <panto> carl__, from the looks of it you fried it
[14:04:35] <panto> order_a_new_bone++
[14:05:23] <panto> the usb console should show up even without the cpu working IIRC
[14:05:32] <panto> it's an FTDI chip
[14:06:22] <mru> yes
[14:07:13] <mdp> carl__, post issue to the beagle list and and file an RMA
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[14:08:50] <carl__> another test could be to power the board via the 5V connector instead of the USB connector?
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[14:09:36] <panto> you could try that too
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[14:38:17] <carl___> okay, i just tested to power my beagle with the 5V adapter... Same behavior with and without the SD card: as soon as I plug the cord, the D1 Led blinks one time in less than a second...
[14:38:59] <carl___> And nothing else happens... The board does not boot.
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[14:39:24] <carl___> What could have damaged the board ?
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[14:44:30] <jackmitchell> TechNexion "Putting Huge Things in Tiny Places" with thier flagship product the 7" MultiTouch Kit
[14:44:34] <jackmitchell> http://www.technexion.com/index.php/about-us
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[14:45:04] <jackmitchell> You couldn't make it up! ;)
[14:45:40] <LetoThe2nd> jackmitchell: can i have one with cream and one with chocolate, please?
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[14:50:41] <carl___> Thanks for the answers guys... I have one last question: I power the bone through the cape, is there any precautions I should take on my cape to avoid having another board fried?
[14:53:12] <clockman> don't exceed 5.2 volts
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[14:57:23] <clockman> I'm having a big problem with my BeagleBone restarting about 1 minute after booting. I don't do anything with it. I'm just watching the serial output: http://pastebin.com/d2uzPaeR It seems to be ~ 60 to 90 seconds after boot, and it's only happening about half the time. I've also tried multiple boards, so I know it isn't the board itself. Anyone know what I can do to get verbose output? or find out wtf
[14:57:23] <clockman> is going on?
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[15:08:35] <panto> clockman, are you powering over USB?
[15:08:50] <clockman> yes
[15:09:01] <clockman> i've tried over 5v psu too though
[15:09:13] <panto> does it reboot with the 5v psu too?
[15:09:53] <clockman> it did, but i also had the usb plugged in
[15:10:03] <clockman> lemme go find the 5v psu and i'll check without the usb plugged in
[15:12:53] <clockman> first try, not rebooting... i'll wait about 1 more minute and try again
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[15:16:39] <clockman> second reboot seems okay
[15:16:57] <clockman> trying a third boot
[15:19:32] <clockman> well usually by now, it'll have happened.
[15:19:39] <clockman> but it seems okay now
[15:19:52] <clockman> think my usb isn't supplying enough power or something?
[15:20:01] <clockman> or is noisy?
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[15:22:10] <panto> it might not supply enough power
[15:22:18] <panto> hi prpplague
[15:22:39] <clockman> well, i shall power off 5v psu from now on. thanks guys
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[15:24:18] <carl___> Does anyone confirms the input voltage range from P9 or have preconisations ? I filed an RMA, but I don't want to problem to happen again...
[15:25:31] <mru> which pins?
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[15:29:14] <LetoThe2nd> mru: bang all the pins
[15:31:25] <clockman> one more question. which takes precedence? USB power or 5V DC power jack? if I plug in the dc jack first, will I then be able to plug in usb and it won't switch over power to the usb?
[15:39:22] <prpplague> panto: greetings
[15:40:03] <panto> mind if I send you the ELC CFP before I sent it out?
[15:40:05] <elik> Hey, I'm trying to debug something on the beaglebone, and gdb is giving me errors when I try to connect to openocd: http://paste.debian.net/214110/
[15:40:41] <elik> I tried both the version that comes with debian (0.5.0) and one I compiled from source (0.6.1), but I get the same results
[15:41:34] <mdp> panto, bitbanging unicorns?
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[15:41:53] <panto> bitbanging DT unicorns!
[15:42:09] <mdp> ooh, I'd drive out to see that if I had to
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[16:04:43] <mdp> mranostay, the 8ball requests you repeat your PRU gpio question
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[16:31:05] <Russ> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451 I like the "case"
[16:32:40] <LetoThe2nd> i personally find the address line more entertaining
[16:32:57] <LetoThe2nd> "704 Anyang K-Center, Gwanyang, Dongan, Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, 431-815"
[16:33:24] <LetoThe2nd> how many words ending with "ang" do you know and can you put into one line? ;)
[16:33:41] <mru> it's a common suffix in korean
[16:33:43] <Russ> actually they end in yang
[16:34:04] <LetoThe2nd> mru: probably.
[16:34:31] <LetoThe2nd> i just find it amusing that they seem to need 4 levels of indirection to get to the street.
[16:35:16] <mru> not all of them are strictly necessary
[16:35:31] <mranostay> where is ying at?
[16:35:33] <LetoThe2nd> (ok, that the cooling block is two times the size of the board is worth a smile too ;))
[16:36:27] <mru> couldn't they have integrated cooling in the usb/eth jack?
[16:37:02] <LetoThe2nd> i suspect that would need engineering and not only taking reference schematics and cutting the BOM in half. ;)
[16:38:31] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/45
[16:38:47] <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr
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[18:14:27] <mranostay> djlewis: well how is our favorite AR programmer?
[18:15:01] <djlewis> hehee, your only AR programmer I know of ;) is well, thank you
[18:15:23] <djlewis> just tossed 5 more computers in the dumpster this morning.
[18:15:42] <djlewis> still trying to fit my new roommate into my home.
[18:17:18] <mranostay> roommates? why would you ever do such a thing? :)
[18:18:02] <djlewis> she is a good deal :)
[18:18:26] <mranostay> ah right that was my next question
[18:19:14] <djlewis> I havent had to have my wolf brand chili from the can since she moved in.
[18:24:28] <mranostay> hey whatever the text on the box tells me i listen :P
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[20:34:35] <panto> g'night people
[20:34:37] <panto> (and trolls)
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[20:37:14] <mru> hey, trolls are people too!
[20:38:52] <woglinde_> *g*
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[20:58:43] <mranostay> mru: barely
[20:59:46] <mranostay> prpplague: what is with the sappy post? :P
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[21:00:13] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe it was a joke about "love of my life" being a beer
[21:00:20] <prpplague> guess i didn't make that clear
[21:00:43] <mranostay> i get it :)
[21:00:53] <mranostay> prpplague: i was thinking a bottle of rum
[21:01:00] <prpplague> hehe
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[21:04:59] <mru> prpplague: I thought you were happily married
[21:05:35] <prpplague> mru: yep, exactly why i drink.....
[21:05:43] <prpplague> hehe
[21:05:52] <mru> yeah, there is that aspect
[21:06:01] <mranostay> er this is happy?
[21:06:17] <mru> mranostay: it can get much worse than that
[21:06:46] * mranostay pictures a troll wedding
[21:07:17] <mru> from what I've heard, prpplague's wife seem to be quite the troll too
[21:07:31] <mranostay> if i ever get married my side of the church is going to be damn weird..
[21:07:41] <mru> church?
[21:07:53] <mranostay> mru: that is typical here
[21:08:15] <mru> sure
[21:08:29] <prpplague> mru: hehe, yes she can very much a troll
[21:08:38] <mru> but I certainly wouldn't get married in a church
[21:08:59] <mranostay> whatever the girl wants just go along with it i'd say
[21:09:23] <mru> I don't think I'd want to marry someone who insisted on doing it in a church
[21:09:54] <mru> if I did, the bottle probably wouldn't be far...
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[21:16:36] <mdp> mranostay, that's typical there?
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[21:29:14] <mranostay> prpplague: just curious. how do women in barbados view trolling?
[21:30:08] <mru> mranostay: careful, next thing you know he'll be trying to set you up with his wife's cousins
[21:36:47] <mranostay> you mean again? :P
[21:37:05] <mru> oh, he already did that?
[21:39:48] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe, west indian women are extremely feisty so they do plenty of their own trolling
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[21:40:22] <prpplague> mranostay: basically they are all descendents of irish slaves, scotish slaves, and african slaves
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[21:42:46] <mranostay> slavery brings people together?
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[21:43:44] <prpplague> mranostay: apparently
[21:44:52] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe if you have 45 minutes, feel free to watch a documentary on my wifes family history - http://youtu.be/Hoq3TjTw1BA
[21:47:26] <mranostay> any cousins in that doc?
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[21:48:33] <mru> mranostay: he didn't show you photos?
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[21:50:55] <prpplague> mranostay: hehehe, everyone on the island is a cousin
[21:51:37] <prpplague> oh right, need to set mranostay up with some of my wife's cousins
[21:51:39] <prpplague> hehe
[21:51:56] <prpplague> mranostay: i tried to get robclark, and mru setup with some of them, but no luck
[21:52:13] <mru> you didn't try very hard
[21:52:18] <prpplague> hehe
[21:52:35] <mru> you should bring some along next time
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[21:53:16] <prpplague> mru: hehe good idea
[21:53:47] <mdp> a flock
[21:54:05] <mdp> best ELC....ever!
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[21:54:30] <prpplague> mdp: ELC-Caribbean
[21:54:43] <prpplague> mdp: swag bag includes spf100 sunblock
[21:54:54] <mdp> prpplague: and you can win "best of show" with the right set of attendees at your session
[21:55:02] <mru> prpplague: and bottle of rum
[21:55:04] <prpplague> hehe
[21:55:09] <mranostay> prpplague: i generally don't wear sunscreen but i'm so glad i did for the 10 days i was in greece :)
[21:55:38] <prpplague> mranostay: trust me, you'll want it in barbados
[21:56:19] <mdp> just don't leave it to a vote...
[21:56:30] <mdp> people can't be trusted to pick the coolest place
[21:56:41] <prpplague> mranostay: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bridgetown,+Saint+Michael,+Barbados&hl=en&ll=13.186956,-59.476392&spn=0.002285,0.004128&sll=32.979228,-96.701263&sspn=0.01575,0.033023&oq=bridgetown,&t=h&gl=us&hnear=Bridgetown,+St+Michael,+Barbados&z=19
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[21:56:59] <prpplague> mranostay: the half circle is a beach bar and next to it is what used to be a call center
[21:57:06] <prpplague> mranostay: fiber net connection to the building
[21:57:10] <prpplague> mranostay: both are vacant
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[21:57:23] <prpplague> mranostay: owned by the gov, and they want to lease it out
[21:57:27] <dm8tbr> :D
[21:57:39] <prpplague> mranostay: "Dave's Beach Bar and Embedded Consulting"
[21:57:50] <mru> I'm in
[21:57:52] <mdp> prpplague, there is plenty of calendar time on the schedule for elc-caribbean
[21:58:36] <mru> we should do a pure trollcon
[21:58:38] <mdp> certainly so if the two present elc-e's can be barely more than 3 months apart
[21:58:51] <prpplague> hehe
[21:59:17] <prpplague> think we could get LF and Linus to sign off on it if we promise Linus he can going diving?
[21:59:35] <mranostay> heh
[21:59:37] <mru> there's a plan
[21:59:52] <mranostay> noobs attend free correct?
[22:00:14] <prpplague> hehe
[22:00:28] <mranostay> or the first 100 people to talk from the irc web portal get free admission
[22:00:34] <mru> trolls attend free
[22:00:52] <mru> those with most trolling endorsements on linkedin
[22:01:04] <mranostay> no trolls get paid to go even better
[22:01:16] <mru> let's keep it realistic
[22:01:35] <mdp> don't ruin trolling by involving money...keep it pure
[22:02:40] * mdp senses mranostay itching to go home and bitbang pru gpo
[22:03:16] <mru> did I see something about a gangbitbang driver today?
[22:03:25] <mdp> heh
[22:03:30] <mranostay> mdp: if you could latch with the shift out mode that would be awesome
[22:03:48] * mranostay makes that a note for his slides
[22:03:56] <mdp> mranostay, there's several little tweaks I wish for in there
[22:04:12] <mranostay> mdp: i mean that would be perfect for shift registers then
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[22:04:56] <mdp> mostly as a reference due to the out-of-tree drivers and suboptimal approach..but you might find the pru "soft uart" implementation that's hanging out on gitorious of interest
[22:05:27] <mdp> since they don't care about determinism, they grab the mcasp to use as a shift register for 1-4 UARTs
[22:05:35] <mdp> mcasps
[22:06:25] <mdp> https://gitorious.org/pru/am335x-pru-uart-fw
[22:06:49] <mranostay> heh
[22:07:22] <mranostay> mdp: i was thinking being insane and using the other pru's shift out as a latching output :)
[22:07:48] <mdp> avoiding external logic?
[22:08:47] <mdp> that seems sane
[22:09:03] <mdp> you know you can directly drive the other pru's registers, right?
[22:09:06] <mdp> that's what I did
[22:09:30] <mdp> so look at it as you can have simple code on one pru and steal all the other pru's resources for your own
[22:10:35] <mdp> recruiters are going wild on linkedin
[22:10:51] <mdp> must need to connect to TIers to look at other TIers for plucking
[22:12:32] <mdp> mranostay, https://gitorious.org/pru/am335x-pru-uart-fw/trees/master .. for a more involved use case
[22:14:51] <mru> a pruart!
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[22:15:56] <mdp> a plague of uarts upon thee
[22:16:22] <ds2> 9
[22:17:37] <mru> 8
[22:20:01] <mdp> 11
[22:23:00] <ds2> Hmmmm
[22:24:12] <ds2> mdp: know off hand if the PRUs can access the full I2C hardware in DMA mode?
[22:24:44] <mru> iiuc the pru has full L3 access
[22:25:22] <ds2> not just access but with the DMA
[22:25:30] <ds2> that would imply sharing the interrupts and a few other things
[22:25:33] <mru> which dma?
[22:25:52] <ds2> the one from the DMA controller to main memory... system dma?
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[22:30:41] <mru> ds2: looks like the pru can drive the edma
[22:31:38] <ds2> mru: Hmmm this opens up possiblities
[22:32:33] <mranostay> will the pru feed my cat and wash my car?
[22:32:41] <mru> mranostay: is it an ethercat?
[22:32:52] <ds2> maybe it will
[22:33:12] <mru> this is an ethercat: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JCY6RWQ-PAw/UFchwDGUaFI/AAAAAAAACYQ/4jYhbcy-j7A/s420/ethercat.png
[22:34:55] <mdp> pru can access everything
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[22:35:36] <mru> mdp: are all system interrupts routed to the pru intc as well?
[22:35:41] <Russ> ethercats, ho!
[22:36:15] <mdp> mru, not sure..I think *some* at least
[22:36:25] <mdp> bbl
[22:36:25] <mru> that was the question
[22:36:40] <mru> a glance at the trm says some edma interrupts are routed there
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[22:37:07] <mru> but I also saw the phrase "select peripherals"
[22:37:12] <ds2> but does access == exclusive or shared?
[22:37:19] <ds2> i.e. I am responsible for avoiding collisons
[22:37:37] <mru> you'd have to make sure the a8 doesn't try to use the same dma channels
[22:37:47] <ds2> right, but that's a sw thing
[22:37:56] <ds2> vs a hard mux somewhere that prevents it
[22:38:03] <mru> probably the best approach is to make a linux driver reserve a channel and tell the pru the details
[22:38:24] <ds2> or just tell Linux it has fewer channels
[22:38:33] <mru> or that
[22:39:13] <ds2> I wonder if the PM bug can be solved by using a PRU instead
[22:40:49] <mru> we were taught at university that "there is no problem in computer science that cannot be solved with another level of indirection"
[22:41:01] <mru> this isn't exactly CS, but the rule might still apply
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[22:43:14] <ds2> as I understand it, part of the bug has to do with buggered firmware for a M3 something like that
[22:43:37] <ds2> if giving up 1 PRU gives me suspend and resume...
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[22:44:04] <thurbad> excpet the problem of having too many levels of indirection
[22:44:33] <mru> thurbad: that's a problem that doesn't exist in cs
[22:44:40] <thurbad> lol
[22:46:50] * mranostay breaks out the smoke and mirrors
[22:47:59] <ds2> why you think some schools don't officially offer a CS degree and instead offer a "equiv" that looks a lot like a consolation prize for EE's who can't make it?
[22:48:00] <ds2> :D
[22:48:40] <mranostay> ds2: better than a CIS one :)
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[23:05:20] <nextime> hello. Other than using the USB ports, is there any other way to add an hdd to the beagle-xm? i'm thinking about the usb interface on the auxiliary expansion header, but it seems that no cape has support for it, so i will need to build it myself. My goal is to have something more reliable that the standard microsd, the only alternative i can think is to use industrial microsd...
[23:05:52] <nobdoor> Question: I want to use my db9 port for controlling a GPS timer, but there is interference because of my console using ttyS2
[23:06:18] <nobdoor> I've disabled the getty for ttyS2, but it is still being designated to my console within Angstrom's bootargs
[23:06:36] <nobdoor> cat /proc/cmdline reveals that ttyS2 gets taken by the console at boot
[23:06:39] <mru> so change the boot args
[23:06:51] <nobdoor> is there a way to do this without rebuilding the kernel?
[23:06:53] <nobdoor> hi mru
[23:07:40] <nobdoor> as far as I can tell, the bootargs are hard coded. I've created uEnv.txt in my /boot directory as follows:
[23:07:47] <ds2> there is ALWAYS a way of doing it w/o reuilding the kernel
[23:07:52] <ds2> it gets loaded into RAM :)
[23:07:56] <mru> or u-boot
[23:08:14] <ds2> if you like doing that way
[23:08:23] <nobdoor> contents of /boot/uEnv.txt: console=ttyS3,115200n8
[23:08:38] <nobdoor> my u-boot files are binary
[23:08:48] <mru> ever heard of a hex editor? :)
[23:08:50] <nobdoor> (trying not to recompile)
[23:09:01] <ds2> just build naked images
[23:09:12] <ds2> you can write a util to convert uImage to a naked image
[23:09:43] <nobdoor> naked image. hmm this requires more research
[23:09:54] <djlewis> sounds like dirty talk to me ;)
[23:10:04] <mranostay> nobdoor: you just won a free pass to trollcon 2013
[23:10:23] <ds2> or wire in some NOR and run xip's
[23:10:51] <mru> ds2: but xip can't be patched at runtime
[23:11:06] <ds2> why not?
[23:11:20] <ds2> it is only NOR, not mask ROM
[23:11:35] <mru> patched non-destructively
[23:11:37] <nobdoor> i'm suprised that there are so many hoops to jump through to use a serial port
[23:11:44] <djlewis> nobdoor: your question has been addressed here a lot in the past and more in the future.
[23:11:47] <djlewis> tried google?
[23:12:05] <nobdoor> yes
[23:12:09] <nobdoor> angstrom isn't really talked about
[23:12:14] <nobdoor> mostly ubuntu solutions
[23:12:14] <mranostay> really it isn't?
[23:12:16] <mru> tried reading source code?
[23:12:17] <djlewis> odd
[23:12:34] <nobdoor> angstrom solutions reccomend creating /boot/uEnv.txt
[23:12:41] <nobdoor> and killing the getty
[23:12:55] <nobdoor> this is not working for me. ubuntu solutions refer to different file trees
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[23:13:27] <ds2> upgrade
[23:13:31] <ds2> you must be using obsolete stuff
[23:13:37] <nobdoor> ideally I'd like to keep my os and save my work
[23:13:59] <djlewis> get another SD card
[23:15:13] <ds2> that is the ideal case
[23:15:17] <ds2> we don't live in an ideal world
[23:16:25] <nobdoor> it would be insane for the beagleboard to be shipped without the ability to configure its serial port
[23:16:43] <nobdoor> ideal is too strong of a word. this should be common sense :P
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[23:18:16] <mru> it's perfectly possible
[23:18:36] <mru> but I'm starting to doubt that you're capable
[23:19:10] <nobdoor> that's kind of rude
[23:21:57] <djlewis> trools have been known to be thus
[23:22:01] <djlewis> trols?
[23:22:06] <djlewis> trolls :)
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[23:24:01] <djlewis> nobdoor: which BB do you have?
[23:24:04] <mranostay> heh
[23:24:21] <nobdoor> beagleboard-xm rev C
[23:24:43] <nobdoor> running 2.6.32
[23:25:37] <djlewis> I was thinking of the older pre XM models. Not related here.
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[23:30:35] <djlewis> later guys, dolls and trolls . . .
[23:30:57] <nobdoor> c u
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[23:49:51] <mru> mdp: doesn't msp430 have usb already?
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