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  • [00:31:57] <mranostay> well eff amazon
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  • [00:41:40] <Russ> mranostay, e3? not getting your cats today?
  • [00:42:05] <Russ> er, ec2
  • [00:46:24] <mranostay> yeah
  • [00:46:45] <mranostay> never got around to moving my stuff from us-east to us-west
  • [00:46:52] <mranostay> however i just did that
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  • [01:04:46] <muhoo> amazon went TU today, eh?
  • [01:04:58] * prpplague does a rant about rpi on G+
  • [01:05:40] <muhoo> i guess we can add beagle vs rpi to the list including linux vs bsd, mac vs windoze, emacs vs vi, etc
  • [01:06:08] * muhoo personally has no interest in rpi and doesn't get the hype
  • [01:06:10] <mranostay> prpplague: easy tiger
  • [01:07:07] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [01:16:12] <mranostay> oh another worthless atom system for free :P
  • [01:16:21] <mranostay> nice LCD panel at least :)
  • [01:17:00] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe, got the datasheet for it? if so, it's good for something, hehe
  • [01:17:05] <mranostay> prpplague: so you think we are getting those FRI2 systems like ever? :)
  • [01:17:43] <prpplague> hehe
  • [01:18:12] <prpplague> mranostay: you see that post on makezine blog about his company - http://store.iheartengineering.com/
  • [01:18:21] <prpplague> mranostay: got some really interesting tools
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  • [01:20:06] <mranostay> who's company?
  • [01:20:23] <prpplague> hehe
  • [01:20:27] <prpplague> s/his/this
  • [01:20:48] <prpplague> mranostay: long day and i have a pounding sinus headache
  • [01:21:32] <prpplague> mranostay: and people keep asking me if i have "heard of the raspberry pi?" and "is PandaBoard a TI copy of the Raspberry Pi?"
  • [01:22:23] <mranostay> prpplague: well is it?
  • [01:22:25] * mranostay ducks
  • [01:22:29] <prpplague> hehe
  • [01:22:52] * prpplague makes note to have many trolls in the front row for mranostay 's presentation
  • [01:23:22] <mranostay> christ
  • [01:23:58] <prpplague> hehe
  • [01:23:59] <mranostay> i swear all my friends in tech are the people i hated in grad school :P
  • [01:24:04] <mranostay> *grade
  • [01:27:07] <mranostay> prpplague: so are all the trolls going btw?
  • [01:27:21] <mranostay> and semi-trolls
  • [01:27:47] <prpplague> mranostay: ELC and ELCE are like 90% trolls, the other 10% are sales and marketing mutants
  • [01:28:03] * ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-away
  • [01:28:23] <mranostay> i rather deal with trolls
  • [01:28:29] <prpplague> hehe
  • [01:28:40] <mranostay> unless the S&M is picking up the bar tab
  • [01:28:59] <prpplague> mranostay: you missed it a few months back, mru was trolling at bletchley park, hehe
  • [01:29:09] <mranostay> ivi?
  • [01:30:29] <prpplague> mranostay: i was there for the automotive linux summit, but alison chaiken and i met up with mru at bletchley one afternoon
  • [01:31:10] <mranostay> on purpose?!?!?
  • [01:31:24] <mru> trolling is always on purpose
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  • [01:36:26] <prpplague> mru: hehe
  • [01:45:11] <Crofton|work> The Oracle guy last year was nice
  • [01:45:59] <mru> the one we trolled?
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  • [01:46:59] <Crofton|work> yes
  • [01:47:55] <prpplague> Crofton|work: hehe you entering the DARPA SDR contest?
  • [01:50:21] <Crofton|work> no
  • [01:50:27] <Crofton|work> is this a new one
  • [01:51:52] <prpplague> i think it is new, i just saw some posts on it last week
  • [01:51:59] <prpplague> sub $300 design iirc
  • [01:52:09] <Crofton|work> they are funding some guy who is making a 300$ board
  • [01:52:40] <Crofton|work> sort of annoying, since they are subsidizing someone who is not making ground brekain g hw
  • [01:53:00] <prpplague> indeed
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  • [04:57:29] <mranostay> ok demo really done now :)
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  • [04:59:25] <emeb_mac> when do you present?
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  • [05:01:18] <mranostay> emeb_mac: at E-ELC?
  • [05:04:43] * mranostay dd's his SD card just in case both get nuked in transit
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  • [05:15:55] <ds2> mranostay: are you keep it next to your 'samples'?
  • [05:15:59] <ds2> or test sources?
  • [05:16:21] <ds2> keeping
  • [05:16:28] <mranostay> heh i am not taking anything nuclear with me
  • [05:19:20] <emeb_mac> probably a good idea
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  • [05:24:24] <_av500_> nucular
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  • [05:26:02] <mranostay> although i learned techically it is illegal to open smoke detectors :-)
  • [05:26:07] <emeb_mac> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZMsNpyaHcA
  • [05:26:25] <somesh> i want to know how to enable internal sound card on BeegalBoard-XM
  • [05:26:52] <mranostay> i want a beegalboard
  • [05:27:01] <_av500_> mranostay: you should build an earthquake detector cape next
  • [05:27:02] <emeb_mac> i want a Bengalboard!
  • [05:27:09] <_av500_> i want a steak sandwich
  • [05:27:19] <somesh> i want to know how to enable internal sound card on BeegalBoard-XM
  • [05:27:39] <somesh> any one knows how to enable internal sound card on BeegalBoard-XM
  • [05:28:54] <mranostay> _av500_: funny you should say that
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  • [05:29:14] * emeb_mac is laughing
  • [05:29:47] <emeb_mac> but doesn't know why...
  • [05:33:20] <mranostay> emeb_mac: we are weird is why?
  • [05:33:44] <emeb_mac> revel in the weird.
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  • [05:35:47] <_av500_> somesh: its part of the kernel config
  • [05:36:00] <_av500_> use angstrom and the sound works
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  • [05:50:28] <ds2> I need a bagelboard
  • [05:50:50] <ds2> but no one has it in stock
  • [05:51:47] <mranostay> fucking magic smoke...
  • [05:52:20] <LetoThe2nd> bagelboard.... hmmm.... bagels... </besthomersimpsonvoice>
  • [05:56:50] <ds2> wonder what the term is for that
  • [05:57:01] <ds2> if necrophiliac is with dead....
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  • [06:23:17] <Russ> ds2, hold on, I think I found one
  • [06:23:18] <Russ> !
  • [06:23:21] <Russ> http://www.cooksdirect.com/product/win-holt-bb1826-bagel-board?utm_source=googlepepla&utm_medium=adwords&gclid=CKP8h4bAlrMCFQXhQgodsXEAiA
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  • [07:24:48] <mranostay> _av500_: pickle me elmo?
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  • [07:25:59] <av500> mranostay: winter is coming
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  • [07:28:13] <Russ> sigh, it's the ant and the grasshopper all over again
  • [07:28:25] <av500> grasshopperboard?
  • [07:28:42] <Russ> if you haven't stored up enough muppet for the winter, don't come crying to me
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  • [07:36:21] <mranostay> weirdos
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  • [07:58:41] <tasslehoff> koen: when running with FLIP in /etc/powervr.ini I get this on boot: http://pastebin.com/zeFFd6C4. with FRONT I do not. it seems to be trying a blanking of /dev/fb1 using the sgx. seen/know this issue?
  • [08:06:15] <koen> haven't seen it yet
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  • [09:47:35] <shoragan> koen, does usb work for you on the bone with your latest stack?
  • [09:51:54] <koen> for small values of "works", yes
  • [09:52:07] <koen> keyboard, mouse, audio
  • [09:52:17] <koen> the usual musb problems are still there
  • [09:59:12] <shoragan> is this with daniel mack's musb series?
  • [09:59:12] <shoragan> i didn't see them in your stack
  • [10:10:52] <koen> it is
  • [10:11:18] <koen> shoragan: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.7/patches/usb
  • [10:11:55] <koen> shoragan: http://pastebin.com/W6CBNHFY
  • [10:12:13] <shoragan> ah, git fail on my side :/
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  • [10:17:40] <shoragan> thanks for the pointer
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  • [11:48:20] <bradfa> mdp, what kind of seating issues with RS232 cape cause Ethernet issues? How does that happen?
  • [11:48:30] <bradfa> SilicaGel, did you ever get your SDIO card working?
  • [11:50:36] <Bolkar> Hello everyone, I want to enable UART2 in my Beagleboard xM rev. C2. So i did pin muxing in linux kernel. How can i test it? If you can help me i'll be very glad.
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  • [12:02:27] <mdp> bradfa, I have nfc...I had the cape on..it worked..but then I had those link issues...
  • [12:02:50] <mdp> pulled it off, put it back on and things are rock solid
  • [12:02:54] <mdp> magic
  • [12:03:02] <bradfa> magic indeed
  • [12:03:18] <bradfa> do you observe my LED inversion issue with u-boot 2012.10?
  • [12:03:39] <mdp> that's on the bone rj45 leds?
  • [12:04:05] <mdp> I never seem to have these boards oriented to have those visible...so no. I can look
  • [12:07:23] <bradfa> mdp, yes, on the Ethernet jack
  • [12:07:58] <bradfa> Bone A6 is my test platform but A5 does it too, just that the A5 has the orange LED wrong due to resistor settings so it's less easy to observe than the A6
  • [12:08:09] <bradfa> Haven't tested A3 boards
  • [12:08:43] <bradfa> Don't really care about A3 boards any more...
  • [12:10:08] <mdp> I only have an A1 and two A5s
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  • [12:11:07] <bradfa> mdp, you can still see it on an A5
  • [12:11:23] <mdp> so remind me the case where I see this issue?
  • [12:11:48] <bradfa> With 100 Mb full dup connection in u-boot, if you stop the count down, the network gets init'ed. On first power up the Green LED will be ON.
  • [12:12:20] <bradfa> if you then issue a 'reset' command from u-boot command line, and interrupt u-boot count down again, now when the Ethernet gets init'ed the Green LED will be OFF
  • [12:12:33] <bradfa> if you 'reset' again, Green LED comes back on when you interrupt count down
  • [12:12:37] <bradfa> this continues
  • [12:12:50] <bradfa> it's like the PHY never gets the LED bits set, they just get inverted
  • [12:13:01] <bradfa> and the PHY doesn't get reset when am335x gets reset
  • [12:13:15] <bradfa> I need to check the PHY data sheet, u-boot code, and bone schematics to understand this better
  • [12:13:31] <bradfa> Linux just seems to invert the LEDs when the interface goes up/down
  • [12:13:44] <bradfa> u-boot does the same, except it shouldn't
  • [12:14:00] <bradfa> end result is after reboots, Ethernet LEDs might be in reversed mode from expected
  • [12:14:20] <bradfa> which is fine, if your CTO doesn't _ABSOLUTELY_LOVE_ LEDs
  • [12:14:25] <bradfa> :)
  • [12:19:14] <thurbad> lol
  • [12:19:41] <thurbad> functional but not blingy enough?
  • [12:20:40] <bradfa> thurbad, functional but blinky the wrong way
  • [12:21:08] <bradfa> well, blinky one of two ways, one is wrong and the wrong way happens after every other reboot
  • [12:21:44] <bradfa> which probably isn't a horrible thing as my bones shouldn't ever reboot, but if I can find excuses to send patches apparently I will try...
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  • [12:27:15] <bradfa> LEDs on an A6, as I understand it should be: Orange -> 100 ON, 10 or no link OFF. Green -> link ON, no-link OFF, activity BLINK OFF BRIEFLY
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  • [13:20:36] <Bolkar> Hello, Can anyone assist me about UART2 enabling in BeagleBoard xM (rev. C2) ?
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  • [14:17:31] <cehh> koen: nightly build of github/beagleboard/kernel failed
  • [14:17:33] <cehh> http://pastebin.com/YaTaiGd2
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  • [14:21:16] <koen> cehh: it works over here
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  • [14:22:32] <cehh> hmm. OK, I will try running manually instead of using jenkins
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  • [14:25:28] <cehh> koen: fyi. I'm using 3.7 branch, commit ef967104
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  • [14:26:48] <koen> cehh: that's a few commits behind already :)
  • [14:27:34] <cehh> ok. I will pull/retry
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  • [14:29:41] <cehh> koen: btw, your 'staging' tree is now part of the nightly build/test
  • [14:29:58] <cehh> the latest results can always be found at http://arago-project.org/testresults/linux/beagle-staging/latest/
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  • [14:33:44] <SilicaGel> bradfa: no. :(
  • [14:35:25] <cehh> koen: still no love. http://pastebin.com/ByWmM2tT
  • [14:36:40] <bradfa> SilicaGel, did you test with a SD card?
  • [14:36:55] <SilicaGel> not yet, but that's still on my list of things to try
  • [14:37:21] <bradfa> SilicaGel, your SDIO slot is hand wired up?
  • [14:37:32] <bradfa> and you hav 1.8 to 3.3 level shifters, rigth?
  • [14:37:38] <SilicaGel> I do have level shifters yeah
  • [14:37:53] <SilicaGel> well not exactly hand wired, we did make a circuit board
  • [14:38:02] <SilicaGel> to mount the TiWi-R2 module on, level shifters, and various other things
  • [14:39:11] <bradfa> is your TiWi-R2 hard mounted to the bus or is it on a SDIO card?
  • [14:40:21] <SilicaGel> it's mounted to an actual circuit board.
  • [14:40:26] <SilicaGel> Here, let me go take a photograph of it, i'll show
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  • [14:43:30] <SilicaGel> bradfa: http://goo.gl/te8Qs
  • [14:43:48] <SilicaGel> the TiWi-R2 is the silvery thing right in the middle
  • [14:44:33] <bradfa> SilicaGel, pretty cape :)
  • [14:44:43] <SilicaGel> It's getting there
  • [14:44:47] <bradfa> how would you wire up an SD card to that?
  • [14:44:51] <SilicaGel> it has a 3-port USB hub on it too
  • [14:45:02] <bradfa> SilicaGel, USB is evil :)
  • [14:45:06] <SilicaGel> and on the bottom is a Mini PCI Express slot for cell card
  • [14:45:43] <SilicaGel> well i was planning on using a blank pcb and dead bugging it
  • [14:45:45] <bradfa> PCI-e on a bone?
  • [14:45:51] <bradfa> cool
  • [14:45:59] <dm8tbr> bradfa: no for usb to the cell card
  • [14:46:01] <SilicaGel> well it's Mini PCI Express
  • [14:46:03] <SilicaGel> yeah
  • [14:46:16] <dm8tbr> mini pcie carries also usb and a few other things
  • [14:46:23] <SilicaGel> Mini PCI Express = USB + PCIx1 I think on the same slot; cell cards only use the USB piece of it so that's the only part we hooked up
  • [14:46:28] <SilicaGel> the cell card works great
  • [14:46:31] <SilicaGel> it was stupidly easy
  • [14:46:33] <SilicaGel> opkg install pppd
  • [14:46:36] <SilicaGel> basically that was it
  • [14:46:38] <bradfa> dm8tbr, ExpressCard carries USB, mini PCI-e does to?
  • [14:46:38] <dm8tbr> :)
  • [14:46:48] <dm8tbr> yes
  • [14:46:51] <SilicaGel> yep
  • [14:47:05] <dm8tbr> thats how all the modems in laptops work so far
  • [14:47:13] <koen> cehh: ah, I forgot to push, try it now
  • [14:47:14] <SilicaGel> yeah this is basically a laptop card we're using
  • [14:48:01] <SilicaGel> It still strikes me as funny how the SDIO clock is a sine wave
  • [14:48:10] <SilicaGel> but it's too perfect a sine wave to be a coincidence
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  • [14:48:47] <SilicaGel> but the thing is, I think I'm dead in the water until somebody here agrees to buy me an SD-aware logic analyzer
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  • [14:49:26] <SilicaGel> Right now it just fails to load the firmware, and it thinks that the device id it sees on sd is some somewhat-randomish number like 0x66666666 or 0xEEEEEEEE or sometimes 0xFFFFFFFF
  • [14:49:28] <av500> beware, the plague is upon us
  • [14:49:31] <SilicaGel> it seems to change, haven't figured out why.
  • [14:50:15] <SilicaGel> on a scope, the level converters seem to be doing the right thing, waveforms are relatively crisp and clean
  • [14:50:49] <cehh> koen: it works now, thanks!
  • [14:51:22] <cehh> I need to update my recipe now to use mainline v3.7-rc2
  • [14:52:11] <SilicaGel> On the upside, though, I replaced the firmware in my sparkfun USB-Weather-v2 board with something that emits ZCL messages that get sent over zigbee (xbee) to my beaglebone
  • [14:52:12] <cehh> one more question... when you build for beaglebone are you using the defconfig under configs/beaglebone
  • [14:52:14] <SilicaGel> and taht part seems to work
  • [14:53:03] <SilicaGel> and now I dig zigbee. I wish they didn't have a moron license.
  • [14:59:24] <alan_o> SilicaGel, indeed
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  • [15:01:29] <bradfa> SilicaGel, clock really shouldn't be a sine wave
  • [15:01:47] <bradfa> but neat to see zigbee working
  • [15:01:48] <SilicaGel> i thought that too but
  • [15:02:08] <SilicaGel> one day I flipped the beaglebone upside down and I probed the clock right on the MicroSD card and it was also very sinusoidal
  • [15:02:10] <SilicaGel> not squarewaveish
  • [15:02:25] <av500> I love exact technical terms
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  • [15:02:37] <bradfa> SilicaGel, my scope plot I sent you was fairly square wave
  • [15:02:40] <SilicaGel> and I figured that the BB folks would have taken care about lineimpedances and stuff
  • [15:02:46] <bradfa> that was direct on pull-up for bone clock line
  • [15:04:26] <SilicaGel> yeah, waht you sent did at least have actual edges.
  • [15:04:28] <bradfa> SilicaGel, what's your zigbee going to do? report the weather?
  • [15:04:55] <SilicaGel> That's one thing, yeah
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  • [15:05:22] <SilicaGel> Right now though i'm racing toward something else :D This TiWi thing, taht's for work. my home project is muchless useful, but more interesting
  • [15:05:32] <bradfa> SilicaGel, now till May -> snow. May till June -> rain. July to August -> hot. September to now -> overcast and rain
  • [15:05:55] <SilicaGel> I did a layout for a 2 sided circuit board that's a 120VAC to 3.3VDC power supply, an Xbee Programmable module (with the second microcontroller on it), and four solid state relays
  • [15:05:57] <bradfa> SilicaGel, Rochester has great weather :)
  • [15:06:11] <bradfa> SilicaGel, cool!
  • [15:06:19] <SilicaGel> I'm trying to hurry up before Christmas to make synchronized chrismast lights I can put on my lawn, and my neighbors lawns
  • [15:06:32] <SilicaGel> and try to do a kind of low-speed synchronized christmas display across multiple yards
  • [15:06:52] <bradfa> SilicaGel, that's way cooler than any work project :)
  • [15:07:02] <bradfa> especially if you can make car crashes
  • [15:07:07] <bradfa> from distraction
  • [15:07:14] <SilicaGel> oh boy, I hope not, but I have one of those umbrella policies
  • [15:07:53] <SilicaGel> If I were a more powerful villain, then at some point it would be revealed that all these Christmas trees were, in fact, Daleks, and they would exterminate all the traffic on state route 31
  • [15:07:56] <SilicaGel> maybe next year
  • [15:08:50] <bradfa> What's the tiwi thing for?
  • [15:09:42] <SilicaGel> it's for asset health monitoring for equipment. Vehicles, generators, pumps, that sort of thing.
  • [15:09:56] <SilicaGel> That board is to allow it to communicate out. Data and alarms.
  • [15:10:21] <bradfa> So each asset that gets monitored gets a bone with cape?
  • [15:11:24] <SilicaGel> yeah, and if it's a vehicle, it also gets the other cape, which is an OBD-II interface, GPS receiver, and 6-axis accelerometer
  • [15:11:49] <SilicaGel> well, and also J1939/J1708
  • [15:11:57] <SilicaGel> but only when I actually finish my J1708 implementation in the PRUSS
  • [15:12:37] <bradfa> SilicaGel, any relation to Vnomics?
  • [15:12:47] <SilicaGel> ................
  • [15:12:50] <SilicaGel> why do you ask that I wonder
  • [15:13:10] <SilicaGel> now i'm probably in trouble
  • [15:13:12] <SilicaGel> haha
  • [15:13:13] <bradfa> SilicaGel, heard through the grape vine :)
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  • [15:19:35] <Colibri> je suis
  • [15:20:36] <Colibri> hello, i am developping a proyect with the beagle board xm using the distribution system "angstrom".
  • [15:21:08] <SilicaGel> USB does stink, but with each kernel release it seems to get a little bit better
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  • [15:25:48] <SilicaGel> av500: should I have said something about plugging the do-hickey into the thing-a-ma-bob too? :)
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  • [15:28:03] <av500> yep
  • [15:30:42] <SilicaGel> huh, Bus Speed Mode 7 DDR50: 1.8V signaling, clock up to 50 MHz, sampled on BOTH CLOCK EDGES
  • [15:30:44] <SilicaGel> that's nice.
  • [15:31:02] <SilicaGel> Too bad I don't have any clock 'edges' haha
  • [15:31:15] <_Unsolo> mru: so i got my mmu configured i think mapping everything from 0x000xxxxx to 0xFFFxxxxx into sram (just seemed like a safe place to stick the tables) but when i try to enable D cache or I cache or L2 cache it all blows up on me..
  • [15:31:22] <bradfa> SilicaGel, I believe you have to handle 3.3V signalling first though to get to that mode
  • [15:31:43] <SilicaGel> So it seems unlikely the tiwi module is using said mode
  • [15:34:03] <bradfa> SilicaGel, probably not, but am335x can't do that mode anyway :)
  • [15:34:14] <SilicaGel> oh, interesting
  • [15:34:33] <bradfa> any of the DDR modes I believe are SD v3.00 things, am335x only supports SD 2.00
  • [15:34:49] <SilicaGel> Oh, good. I don't need that complication right now.
  • [15:35:32] * bradfa needs lunch!
  • [15:35:50] * _Unsolo needs a MMU dm37x guide
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  • [15:58:33] <_Unsolo> If i enabled the mmu and program seams to execute i have done something right right ?
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  • [16:04:33] <av500> maybe
  • [16:08:40] <_Unsolo> well its executing but waay slower than the pace it had when I cache was enabled..
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  • [16:13:35] <_Unsolo> av500: with mmu on and i cache on it outperforms mmu off i cache on
  • [16:13:44] <_Unsolo> now what i need is to get the d cache on i belive
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  • [16:16:44] <_Unsolo> but from what i can read some think that is just a matter of fliping a bit in c1,c0
  • [16:26:34] <av500> yes
  • [16:26:49] <av500> im just checking my ancient mmu code from arm9 times :)
  • [16:28:04] <_Unsolo> a bigger question is if my dma routines will fail epically with the D cache on and if L2 needs to be enabled for L1 to work
  • [16:30:32] <_Unsolo> at least that would explain my crash when i enable D cache
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  • [16:32:36] <mru> you don't need L2 for L1
  • [16:33:11] <mru> I-cache can always be enabled
  • [16:33:25] <mru> since you're not allowed to execute from device/s-o memory anyway
  • [16:35:44] <_Unsolo> so if I cache + MMU outperforms only I cache i should be able to also enable D-cache (L1)right?
  • [16:36:22] <_Unsolo> simply by flipping the C bit in c1,c0
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  • [16:39:14] <_Unsolo> this is almost interesting..
  • [16:41:25] <mdp> almost
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  • [16:41:59] <_Unsolo> so im going to try with A and V bit disabled
  • [16:42:12] <_Unsolo> but I and D enabled
  • [16:42:18] <_Unsolo> and MMU enabled
  • [16:42:31] <av500> enable all the bits!
  • [16:42:37] <_Unsolo> hmm
  • [16:42:39] <_Unsolo> sure ?
  • [16:42:50] <_Unsolo> im quite confident it wil epically fail on me
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  • [16:43:11] <mru> bit-bang it!
  • [16:43:24] <av500> bit-bangbus
  • [16:43:39] <_Unsolo> only bit banging i will do will be on r0
  • [16:44:18] <_Unsolo> its either ORR or BIC
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  • [16:45:17] <mru> we need a cpu with a BNG instruction
  • [16:45:43] <_Unsolo> so you can really go out with a Bang ?
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  • [16:46:46] <_Unsolo> mru should it matter if i dma or not with 1:1 mapping ?
  • [16:47:06] <_Unsolo> again enable D-cache results in failure
  • [16:47:18] <_Unsolo> trying all the bits
  • [16:47:27] <panto> BBNG r0,[r3,#0]?
  • [16:47:28] <mru> if you use dma you must do proper cache maintenance
  • [16:47:44] <_Unsolo> mru perhaps thats whats failing
  • [16:47:54] <_Unsolo> i will try to disable dma
  • [16:48:01] <mru> clean before dma read, invalidate after dma write
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  • [16:48:49] <_Unsolo> hmm ok i guess i can fix that after i get D and L2 online
  • [16:49:25] <av500> then L3
  • [16:49:26] <av500> and L4
  • [16:49:35] <mru> skip L2 for now
  • [16:49:45] <_Unsolo> L3 and L4 are working
  • [16:49:46] <av500> cache all the levels
  • [16:49:50] <_Unsolo> oO
  • [16:49:56] <mdp> av500, need to get the bitbang cape on kickstarter
  • [16:50:04] <_Unsolo> its just a slightly to smart booter
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  • [16:50:36] <rgimenes> hello, i have a beagleboard xm with serial DB9 connector, I tried to connect a device on this connector, but when I try read cat /dev/ttyO0 cat /dev/ttyO1 cat /dev/ttyO2 cat /dev/ttyO3 cat /dev/ttyO4 cat /dev/ttyO5 not happens i'm using a debian squeeze. i had disabled the console boot on uEnv.txt
  • [16:50:36] <_Unsolo> mru: would still be fun to cache all the levels.
  • [16:50:52] <mru> get it working with only L1 first
  • [16:51:12] <av500> rgimenes: there could still be a getty on that uart
  • [16:51:16] <av500> console is only for kernel
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  • [16:51:39] <av500> also you need to setup baud rate
  • [16:52:36] <rgimenes> i tried to use a setserial of debian, but this script only run with ttyS devices
  • [16:52:38] <alan_o> mdp: bitbang cape, awesome! Just a bunch of gpio pins, but have arbitrary labels for SPI, I2C, CAN, USB.... I wonder who much you could raise.
  • [16:53:19] <rgimenes> the DB9 connector means what file output? /dev/ttyO? what number
  • [16:53:43] <mdp> alan_o, yep, and the s/w will preconfigure all the pinmuxes to mode7 for you. I'll have to say, it's quite a stunning idea
  • [16:54:17] <mdp> alan_o, I was thinking it would come with some blank stickers that you could relabel what the pins are for
  • [16:54:30] <av500> mdp: nooo
  • [16:54:39] <av500> a little OLED next to every screw terminal
  • [16:54:43] <mdp> at the $200 backer level I'll throw in a yoctopus
  • [16:54:53] <av500> like that russian keyboard
  • [16:54:56] <mdp> lol
  • [16:55:07] <av500> of course the OLEDs are bitbanged
  • [16:55:14] <mdp> of course!
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  • [16:55:36] <mdp> I'm not just a member of bitbang club...I'm the president
  • [16:55:45] <alan_o> hah
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  • [16:56:42] <_Unsolo> mru enabling the D-cache still fails on me..
  • [16:57:06] <mru> check how u-boot does it
  • [16:57:12] <alan_o> make some example programs for it that do things as slowly as possible, then make comments about how Linux is slow compared to a $30 Arduino
  • [16:57:42] <av500> alan_o: it will all be done high level in python
  • [16:57:59] <mdp> "compared to The Greatest Microcontroller Ever(tm)"
  • [16:58:00] <av500> using RPC to talk to sysfs
  • [16:58:20] <mru> yeah, sysfsd
  • [16:58:53] <mdp> alan_o, http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/18182218/freesoc-and-freesoc-mini, if you didn't see that one before.
  • [16:58:58] <mdp> systemsysfsd
  • [16:59:18] <alan_o> python, even better... I was actually thinking last night about how device tree is just another interpreted language, and how we might as well just embed a python interpreter in the kernel to make our board files in.
  • [16:59:43] <mdp> "It's just data"
  • [17:00:05] <panto> err, how about no...
  • [17:00:05] <alan_o> riiiight... just like a jar file :)
  • [17:00:14] <mdp> panto, quiet!
  • [17:00:27] <mru> panto: luddite!
  • [17:00:32] <alan_o> yeah, panto, you just hate new technology.
  • [17:00:40] <mdp> shame!
  • [17:00:52] <_Unsolo> mru: any tips as to where in the u-boot source i should look for it lowlevel_init.S doesn't cover it
  • [17:00:56] <panto> DT is a nice description of the relationship of modules
  • [17:01:08] <alan_o> You C guys are the past. Python in kernel is the future. In fact, I saw some benchmarks that _proved_ that python is faster than C in all cases.
  • [17:01:14] <mru> _Unsolo: there are some files with 'cache' in their names iirc
  • [17:01:19] <mdp> panto, I hear it's a tree of devices
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  • [17:01:33] <panto> in fact it's a bit-banged tree of bit-banged devices
  • [17:01:41] * mdp staggers backward
  • [17:01:44] <mdp> whoa
  • [17:01:50] <av500> alan_o: its enough to prove that is is never slower
  • [17:01:54] <panto> BDBT
  • [17:02:01] <alan_o> panto, you just blew mdp's mind...
  • [17:02:18] * av500 has a bit bang theory
  • [17:02:24] <mdp> I'm going on sabbatical to ponder bit bang theory
  • [17:02:25] <panto> he'll get over it
  • [17:02:53] <panto> we should ask for a tv-show
  • [17:02:54] <mdp> panto, I shall go to a zombie-proof meditation location in Meteora
  • [17:03:05] <panto> god, I wish I'd go too
  • [17:03:05] <_Unsolo> next thing ill see here is that python has very nice RT properties
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  • [17:03:33] <mdp> pythonRT solves that
  • [17:03:44] <panto> calling dibs on the nicer WC spots
  • [17:03:45] <alan_o> _Unsolo, that's crazy talk, but JS is actually pretty good for RT stuff.
  • [17:03:59] <mdp> panto, LOL
  • [17:04:04] <_Unsolo> specially on predictable delay RT execution
  • [17:04:20] <panto> well, RT calls about predictability, not speed
  • [17:04:32] <panto> with python you could say that you are going to be predictably slow :)
  • [17:04:56] <mdp> I predict failure
  • [17:04:58] <panto> a jitter of a few msec is nothing when everything takes a few tens of seconds
  • [17:05:30] <av500> RT implies that time actually passes
  • [17:05:45] <panto> in a geological scale it does
  • [17:05:46] <alan_o> av500, time stands still when you're writing JS?
  • [17:06:16] <mdp> this time business is all just a theory
  • [17:06:17] <_Unsolo> at least when you try to read what you have written
  • [17:06:22] <av500> since it flies when you are having fun, that is indeed correct
  • [17:06:30] <alan_o> :)
  • [17:06:36] <mranostay> bit bang theory.. oh god
  • [17:06:49] <alan_o> mranostay, you're in charge of writing the parody song.
  • [17:06:53] <av500> and its not even friday here...
  • [17:07:06] <_Unsolo> prefers the bitch bang theory
  • [17:07:17] <panto> that's x-rated
  • [17:07:24] <mdp> mranostay, can you make the song be in the spirit of the team america soundtrack?
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  • [17:07:45] <mru> is someone singing an nda?
  • [17:07:54] <koen> in the rain?
  • [17:08:27] <_Unsolo> that would be crying not bit
  • [17:08:28] <mdp> hrm, aptina nda terms set to music..I like this
  • [17:08:59] <mranostay> team bit bang?
  • [17:09:24] <_Unsolo> there is an x-rated alternative to that as well.
  • [17:09:34] <mdp> perhaps Psy can choreograph a dance for us?
  • [17:09:46] <_Unsolo> whoppa bit bang style
  • [17:10:15] <alan_o> the dancers can be holding RPi's
  • [17:10:51] <panto> I hate to visualize the dancers being in that music video
  • [17:11:00] <panto> not going to be very pleasing to the eye
  • [17:11:25] <mdp> well, let's try to keep this mass appeal, let's not recruit dancers at ELC-E, ok?
  • [17:11:30] * _Unsolo wonders why this cannot be some asian chicks dancing.
  • [17:12:21] * mranostay thinks _Unsolo is missing the point
  • [17:12:25] <av500> _Unsolo: on the iphone assembly line?
  • [17:12:37] <panto> that would be an underage video :)
  • [17:13:06] <av500> panto: in your jurisdiction!
  • [17:14:02] * panto checks age of consent here... 15...
  • [17:14:16] <mranostay> which is a little creepy to know
  • [17:14:45] <mranostay> of course it is 16 min for any US citizen even overseas
  • [17:14:53] <mranostay> creepy i know that as well :)
  • [17:15:06] <alan_o> mranostay, wha??? is that true?
  • [17:15:15] <alan_o> That can't be true
  • [17:15:20] <alan_o> The law doesn't go with you.
  • [17:15:28] <mranostay> oh yes it does
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  • [17:15:37] <mru> alan_o: god's law goes everywhere :)
  • [17:15:40] <alan_o> (neither does the bill of rights, to the surprise of many moronic tourists)
  • [17:15:44] * av500 fought the law, the law won
  • [17:16:56] * _Unsolo doesnt want to know the age
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  • [17:17:09] <alan_o> mranostay, I think I see what you're saying. If the overage person goes overseas, yes I've heard of that.
  • [17:17:29] <av500> overweight most likely too
  • [17:17:44] <alan_o> hah, yeah. I saw something on 20/20 about that one time.
  • [17:17:49] <mranostay> alan_o: which really even if it is legal it is sooooo creepy :)
  • [17:18:36] <av500> lets get back to banging bits
  • [17:18:43] <mranostay> oh yes!
  • [17:19:14] <alan_o> yeah, it got dark in here in a hurry..... that's a lot mranostay ......
  • [17:19:26] <mranostay> it is what i do
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  • [17:20:36] <mranostay> _av500_: bring back the light
  • [17:20:42] <mranostay> have a sunrise photo?
  • [17:21:08] <_Unsolo> mru: still lookinf for the code that enables d-cache..
  • [17:21:16] <_Unsolo> -f+g
  • [17:22:56] <alan_o> _Unsolo, I haven't seen the code, but in the uboot for beagle bone, there's a dcache off and dcache on command.
  • [17:23:10] <alan_o> should be straight-forward enough to find
  • [17:23:32] <Russ> geez, I leave for 5 minutes...
  • [17:23:36] * mranostay cranks up tunes to drown out the nearby nodejs talk
  • [17:24:10] <Russ> skrillex?
  • [17:24:47] <mranostay> Call Me Maybe?
  • [17:25:14] <av500> AZIZ, LIGHT!
  • [17:25:32] <Russ> mranostay, crank that up!
  • [17:26:36] <alan_o> mranostay, but everyone knows threads don't scale.
  • [17:27:03] <alan_o> mranostay, and non-blocking I/O.
  • [17:27:24] <mranostay> nodejs is a bad ass rock star
  • [17:28:28] <alan_o> and it's webscale
  • [17:28:32] <ds2> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww javascript
  • [17:28:42] <ds2> blah...ick ick ick
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  • [17:29:03] <av500> I read javascript is the future
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  • [17:29:12] <av500> in a trade magazine
  • [17:29:12] <_Unsolo> cache_v7.c seems to take it quite far
  • [17:29:19] <alan_o> yeah, where's my copy of Information Week
  • [17:29:30] <_Unsolo> i was hoping to get away with waay less
  • [17:30:24] <alan_o> mranostay, thanks a lot for the "call me maybe.."
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  • [17:30:54] <alan_o> mranostay, I'm gonna have to play the PSY video to get it out of my head now....
  • [17:31:06] <_Unsolo> call me maybe or the psy video
  • [17:31:26] <alan_o> _Unsolo, yeah, I'll be out of the frying pan into the fire.
  • [17:31:28] <mranostay> have they remixed those togather yet?
  • [17:31:54] <alan_o> I'm sure they're working on it.
  • [17:33:26] <Russ> it's friday?
  • [17:33:52] <alan_o> so I think I finally got my embedded board to stop locking up under heavy ethernet traffic. Found a race condition in the driver.
  • [17:34:40] <Russ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co4Rsne-KD4
  • [17:35:06] <Russ> no need to listen to two songs
  • [17:36:48] <mranostay> hehe
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  • [17:44:06] <rgimenes> av500: i sent my full question on beagleboard group (google).
  • [17:44:55] <mranostay> aw the weekly digest i never read :)
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  • [17:45:36] <Unsolo_> hic..
  • [17:46:26] <mranostay> too early to start drinking
  • [17:46:35] <mru> mranostay: it's almost 7pm
  • [17:47:09] <mranostay> oh i keep forgetting Europe lives in a time warp
  • [17:48:12] <Unsolo_> cant say u-boot source code made me a lot wiser..
  • [17:48:39] <mranostay> Unsolo_: made you hate life more right? :)
  • [17:49:24] <Unsolo_> well no , more hate generalization of not so general stuff
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  • [17:52:10] <Unsolo_> interesting
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  • [17:54:36] <Unsolo_> mru whats most interesting is probably the cp_delay in the u-boot
  • [17:55:05] <Unsolo_> it seems they run a delay between coprocessor (which isnt a co processor) read and write
  • [17:55:16] <mru> where?
  • [17:55:22] <Unsolo_> :q
  • [17:55:37] <Unsolo_> arch/arm/lib/cache-cp15
  • [17:55:40] <Unsolo_> .c
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  • [17:58:41] <Bolkar> Hello all! I want to enable uart2 in my bb xm rev. c2. What path do i need to follow?
  • [17:58:44] <Unsolo_> something tells me it might be easier to write this in c..
  • [18:00:45] <alan_o> Bolkar, might have to do some pin muxing
  • [18:01:22] <alan_o> look at /arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap3-beagle.c, specifically under the section where it sets up the zippy2 board.
  • [18:01:36] <alan_o> zippy2 has another serial port on it
  • [18:01:39] <alan_o> not sure if it's uart2
  • [18:01:42] <alan_o> might be uart1
  • [18:01:50] <alan_o> should get you pointed in the right direction
  • [18:01:55] <Unsolo_> omap3evm has uart1 up wich is somewhat different
  • [18:02:06] <wmat> see the second last post in this thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/beagleboard/-msQlYWlw_Q
  • [18:03:44] <Bolkar> alan_o , Unsolo_ and wmat , thank you for your answers. I'll immediately look and feedback here.
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  • [18:04:48] <panto> guys, if you have a beaglebone and have interest in capes give this a whirl: git@github.com:pantoniou/linux-bbxm.git branch capebus-v1
  • [18:05:17] <panto> docs are pretty scarce ATM, but if you take a look at the bone dts you'll get the idea
  • [18:06:00] <Unsolo_> mru: is it also neccesary to setup the dram_bank_mmu ?
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  • [18:07:05] <mru> uh?
  • [18:07:11] <mru> that function is what builds the page tables
  • [18:07:31] <mdp> gee, thanks much, Russ :P
  • [18:08:06] <mru> mmu_setup() first builds a flat uncached mapping covering everything
  • [18:08:22] <mru> then it enables cache for the pages covering the dram
  • [18:08:31] <Unsolo_> i see
  • [18:09:02] <panto> Russ, checkout the capebus branch; it has the generic cape support thing we talked about
  • [18:09:41] <Unsolo_> so dram bank mmu_setup is over writing the page_tables with data such as WriteThrough etc.
  • [18:09:56] <mru> that's what it looks like to me
  • [18:10:02] <Bolkar> wmat, i look to the post. I need to recompile the u-boot , not kernel right?
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  • [18:12:13] <wmat> Bolkar: first test that it's not already setup. That thread has the tests in it.
  • [18:12:28] <Unsolo_> mru: so if i know my "ram" is from 800 to 9ff i could simply add 0x1A to all those ?
  • [18:12:53] <Unsolo_> and perhaps that is what is failing ?
  • [18:13:01] <mru> you should set up mapping for all the memory
  • [18:13:09] <mru> otherwise your mmio registers will be inaccessible
  • [18:13:21] <mru> s/all memory/full address space/
  • [18:13:33] <Unsolo_> ofc 0x000xxxx to 0xfffxxxxx
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  • [18:14:16] <Russ> panto, in who's repo?
  • [18:14:50] <Unsolo_> mru: my question is if the d cache needs 0x1A or 0x1e to be set to work
  • [18:15:00] <Unsolo_> eg on the actual memory
  • [18:15:40] <mru> look up those bits in the manual
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  • [18:16:09] <koen> Russ: https://github.com/pantoniou/linux-bbxm/commits/capebus-v1
  • [18:16:49] <Bolkar> wmat, i tested uart2_tx and mcbsp3_fsx and they are exactly same with the post.
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  • [18:17:54] <Unsolo_> the bit 0 means inner cachable
  • [18:18:04] <mru> L1 is inner cache
  • [18:18:20] <mru> L2 is configurable inner or outer
  • [18:18:26] <mru> if you don't enable it you don't need to care
  • [18:19:31] <funks> Anyone experienced with rootfs images of angstrom on beaglebone mind helping me out?
  • [18:19:40] <Unsolo_> so u-boot runs with inner noncachable
  • [18:19:48] <Unsolo_> unless i misread something ;)
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  • [18:21:33] <Unsolo_> mru: so ram is mapped write-back no allocate on write, rest is mapped write-through no allocate on write
  • [18:22:03] <Unsolo_> shared, inner non-cachable
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  • [18:23:50] <funks> do you guys know why http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org doesn't have beaglebone on the list?
  • [18:23:59] <funks> is it shared with the beagleboard rootfs image?
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  • [18:24:18] <Unsolo_> even better that some data end up in a reserved space..
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  • [18:26:35] <wmat> Bolkar: sorry, dunno. Try googling more, I'm sure an answer will turn up.
  • [18:27:19] <Bolkar> wmat: thank you for your help ;) I think i need to test my connection.
  • [18:28:02] <DJJazzyJosh> Hopefully someone can help. When I first fired up my BeagleBone with the weather cape cloud9 showed an example weather station application. I reflashed the SD card and now I don't see it and I can't find it in the opkg listings. Cane anyone point me to the source for this example application?
  • [18:28:42] <mranostay> DJJazzyJosh: you want to use python by chance? :)
  • [18:29:40] <DJJazzyJosh> maybe somewhere down the line, but for now I think I'd like to learn Nodejs
  • [18:30:12] <mranostay> well that weatherstation app was a demo app
  • [18:30:44] <mranostay> DJJazzyJosh: my python reporting script --> https://github.com/mranostay/cosm-analog/blob/master/cosm-weatherstation.py
  • [18:31:01] <DJJazzyJosh> Yeah, I figured as much. Just looking for the source to is since it doesn't appear to be in the most recent distribution
  • [18:32:27] <mru> Unsolo_: it's using 1MB sections
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  • [18:35:42] <Unsolo_> mru same as i have
  • [18:36:30] <mru> where did you get that bit 0 controls inner cacheability?
  • [18:36:39] <mru> that's not at all what my manual says
  • [18:37:23] <Unsolo_> table 3-60 in cortex-A8 r3p2 technical reference manual
  • [18:38:06] <Unsolo_> crap
  • [18:38:19] <Unsolo_> maybe that is only for the first entry pointer
  • [18:38:22] <Unsolo_> my bad
  • [18:39:44] <mru> that bit controls whether the page tables themselves are cached
  • [18:40:44] <mru> and you want to leave that off
  • [18:43:17] <djlewis> someone mentioned zombies, I woke this morning killing the bastards
  • [18:43:35] <djlewis> gm :)
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  • [18:45:50] <Unsolo_> mru thanks for pointing that one out for me
  • [18:46:07] <Unsolo_> now i want to figure out where i should have been looking
  • [18:46:16] <mru> the ARM ARM
  • [18:46:21] <mru> B3.5
  • [18:46:36] <Bolkar> alan_o , hello again , i looked in the board-omap3beagle.c but i couldn't found any init. function for zippy 2. Here is the link which i have been looking in it : http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c;h=388c431c745a0e4134c847f96f84b73912053bf7;hb=HEAD
  • [18:46:52] <Bolkar> am i missing something?
  • [18:47:37] <panto> back
  • [18:47:54] <panto> Russ, it@github.com:pantoniou/linux-bbxm.git branch capebus-v1
  • [18:48:01] <panto> git@github.com:pantoniou/linux-bbxm.git branch capebus-v1
  • [18:49:36] <kroon> I'm using a Beagleboard xM rev C, trying to do some doublebuffered graphics using the framebuffer device. This is my "buffer swap" function, http://pastebin.com/SiFNH1vZ, but I'm seeing so much flickering I think I'm doing something wrong. Anyone have any pointers ?
  • [18:50:25] <kroon> (I'm doing the drawing at offset "fb->offset")
  • [18:52:27] <alan_o> Bolkar, it's the one in OE, not the one in mainline kernel
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  • [18:54:02] <alan_o> Bolkar, http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#OpenEmbedded
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  • [18:54:40] <Unsolo_> i hate web chat.
  • [18:57:41] <ds2> then use a proper client
  • [18:59:32] <Unsolo_> probably would if i could
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  • [19:00:44] <ds2> why can't you?
  • [19:00:58] <mranostay> O_O
  • [19:03:48] <Bolkar> alan_o, thanks! I'm inspecting it!
  • [19:04:44] <mranostay> ds2: hardware guy likely... they really can't use IRC :)
  • [19:05:51] <alan_o> I'd also suspect some places have ports blocked :(
  • [19:06:11] <mranostay> non-standard ports
  • [19:06:22] <alan_o> "standard"
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  • [19:06:35] <mranostay> yeah use non-standard ports
  • [19:06:40] <alan_o> ie: "who uses the internet other than port 80? Viruses, that's who....."
  • [19:07:06] <mranostay> heh
  • [19:07:16] * mranostay hates corporate IT
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  • [19:09:12] <alan_o> so now that my driver isn't locking up anymore, I get to investigate why I'm losing packets... *sigh* it never ends......
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  • [19:10:16] <mranostay> gremlins it is always gremlins
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  • [19:13:16] <woglinde_> alan_o which driver?
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  • [19:13:53] <mranostay> alan_o: not USB ethernet right? :)
  • [19:14:20] <alan_o> woglinde, It's not Linux, it's a driver for an SMSC lan91c111 connected to a Freescale S12 (68HC12)
  • [19:14:38] <alan_o> I didn't write the driver, but I get to fix it :)
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  • [19:15:45] <ds2> so? tunnel out on port 80 and start routing random traffic
  • [19:15:49] <ds2> that'll show IT ;)
  • [19:16:32] <alan_o> ds2, some places that's a fireable offense, because you're deliberatly trying to circumvent IT policies
  • [19:16:40] <alan_o> It's kind of like the DMCA for the workplace :)
  • [19:17:25] <mranostay> ssh + screen is all i need
  • [19:17:57] <ds2> so?
  • [19:18:00] <ds2> fire IT
  • [19:18:57] <alan_o> Well.... If i could fire IT, I suppose I could instead just tell them to let me do what I want :)
  • [19:19:16] <ds2> it can be done.
  • [19:19:34] <ds2> fire them for incompetance and failing to support users.
  • [19:19:48] <mranostay> if they want to fire you they will find a way
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  • [19:20:40] <alan_o> oh yeah, employers (and government) craft rules so that everyone is a little bit out of compliance all the time. That way whenever they want, they can fire you (or put you in jail)
  • [19:21:00] <alan_o> see: Internal Revenue Service
  • [19:22:22] <ds2> presumeably, they hired you cuz they needed something done.
  • [19:22:51] <ds2> food time
  • [19:24:09] <mranostay> alan_o: you just have to have M.A.D. on them :)
  • [19:25:28] <alan_o> I'm a contractor. I don't have any IT problems. I bring my own PC, and if their internet sucks, I tether the phone. If it came to it, I'd remind them how much their policies are costing them. :)
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  • [19:26:23] <Unsolo_> mru now it runs i think..
  • [19:26:39] <Unsolo_> slower than ever but perhaps that has to do with L2 not beeing enabled ?
  • [19:27:14] <mru> shouldn't
  • [19:27:22] <mru> but some other setting might be wrong
  • [19:28:23] <Unsolo_> CR_A and CR_Z should perhaps be set ?
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  • [19:30:38] <mru> you definitely want to set Z
  • [19:30:42] <mru> that's branch prediction
  • [19:30:56] <mru> and that one is safe to toggle at will
  • [19:31:11] <mru> the A bit doesn't affect performance
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  • [19:31:46] <Unsolo_> k
  • [19:31:58] <mru> the C bit controls caches
  • [19:32:09] <mru> be sure to invalidate caches _before_ enabling it
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  • [19:35:02] <Unsolo_> whoa romcode getting called..
  • [19:35:09] <mru> so you want to set IZC
  • [19:35:28] <mru> L2 is managed by rom
  • [19:35:42] <Unsolo_> i see
  • [19:35:52] <mru> just leave that off for now
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  • [19:38:14] <Unsolo_> ok trying IZC
  • [19:38:43] <Unsolo_> seems to work
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  • [19:39:48] <Unsolo_> so what now
  • [19:40:00] <mru> how's performance?
  • [19:40:10] <Unsolo_> worse than when i had dma on :)
  • [19:40:19] <Unsolo_> but better than w/o working cache
  • [19:41:01] <mru> so now you enable dma again
  • [19:42:50] <Unsolo_> interesting
  • [19:43:16] <Unsolo_> somewhat faster than w/o dma but still slower than with just I cache + dma..
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  • [19:45:36] <Unsolo_> trying w/o writethrough
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  • [19:46:10] <Unsolo_> seems to be same same
  • [19:50:57] <Unsolo_> its a ethernet transfer and its currently at 2.2mbit but i touched 4.1 earlier today while messing around
  • [19:59:13] <Unsolo_> time to go home.. end result is at least worse than when i started :(
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  • [20:00:40] <woglinde> and it will be worser tomorrow
  • [20:09:48] <mdp> it'll be better on friday
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  • [20:16:46] <_av500_> yo
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  • [20:19:18] <_av500_> 0so, how many bits have been banged in the meantime?
  • [20:19:39] <dm8tbr> bangarang!
  • [20:21:20] * mru banged a zero into a one
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  • [20:30:10] * jkridner happily downloads latest Gentoo stage3 for ia64.
  • [20:30:57] <jkridner> I can't believe that I'm having OE problems on Ubuntu that might be fixed in Gentoo. Very different than my experience.
  • [20:31:08] <jkridner> I'm just happy to be switching back to Gentoo...
  • [20:31:26] <jkridner> and, it'll be the first time I've run it on my desktop in years (instead of only as a server).
  • [20:31:27] <mdp> I've never even heard of anybody having OE problems, period.
  • [20:32:02] <woglinde> hi jkridner
  • [20:32:11] <jkridner> hi woglinde
  • [20:32:21] <woglinde> mdp he means 12.10
  • [20:32:41] <jkridner> mdp: you forgot <sarcasm>
  • [20:33:06] <DJJazzyJosh1> ls
  • [20:33:16] <woglinde> file not found
  • [20:33:16] <mdp> jkridner: you caught it from the sartalics font I used
  • [20:33:16] <DJJazzyJosh1> funny how that command never seems to work in IRC
  • [20:34:21] <unsolo> indeed it will be worse tomorrow
  • [20:34:29] <jkridner> mdp: but, that's the same font you use every day. ;-)
  • [20:34:52] <mdp> jkridner, it's like capslock
  • [20:35:01] <mdp> if I was always shouting ;)
  • [20:38:15] <unsolo> jkridner: how does it feel to be back on gentoo.. ?
  • [20:39:10] * unsolo is stuck in blocking blocks blocking it self from unblocking it from revdep_rebuilding it somewhere between 2010 and 2012
  • [20:39:32] <jkridner> very happy about it. Still running this pidgin under Ubuntu as the stage3 download seems that it'll take about 3 hours.
  • [20:40:05] <unsolo> jikes downloading over sattelite ?
  • [20:41:40] <woglinde> hm stupid qt why cannt I build a wayland only qt without x stuff
  • [20:47:53] <_av500_> try heiland
  • [20:49:01] <woglinde> now the stupid ubuntu mirror dont works
  • [20:49:05] <woglinde> all stupid today
  • [20:53:01] <_av500_> stupid tuesday
  • [20:53:18] <mru> is there a non-stupid ubuntu?
  • [20:53:24] <mdp> debian
  • [20:53:33] <mru> never liked it
  • [20:53:47] <mru> they put principles before common sense
  • [20:54:41] <mru> jkridner: the real question is how anyone can do anything _happily_ with ia64
  • [20:55:03] <jkridner> well, there is that.
  • [20:56:02] <mru> mdp: anyone who thinks it's better to have firmware permanently burned into rom than loadable at runtime needs to have his head repaired
  • [20:56:19] <mdp> when you could bitbang it in
  • [20:56:42] <mru> like they did on that one board
  • [20:57:37] <mru> bcm wifi needing firmware blob so they hardwired a separate micro with the firmware in its flash to load it on reset
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  • [21:01:14] <djlewis> tuesday not so bad for me, I had free pizza for lunch :)
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  • [21:02:06] <mru> djlewis: did you get the source code?
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  • [21:03:24] <djlewis> mru: i try not to go there, things in the listing I dont understand scare me.
  • [21:03:36] <_av500_> then at least a binary blob topping
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  • [21:04:49] <djlewis> a nibble would carry the toppings
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  • [21:05:25] <_av500_> a 4bit pizza
  • [21:05:40] <_av500_> or a half byte
  • [21:05:53] <mru> that's not a lot of pizza
  • [21:05:59] <spacecolonyone> Any thoughts on whether it is worth trying to match the trace impedance used on the BBxM camera port for xclk and pclk?
  • [21:06:46] <spacecolonyone> I'm looking at around an 80MHz pclk and a 180-215 MHz xclk
  • [21:07:24] <spacecolonyone> My (non-ee) inclination is yes, so that begs the question, what impedance was used for those routes.
  • [21:07:47] <spacecolonyone> run would be the guy to ask, no?
  • [21:07:57] <spacecolonyone> rcn*
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  • [21:09:01] <_av500_> no
  • [21:09:06] <_av500_> rcn ports ubuntus
  • [21:09:23] <_av500_> how long a cable to you plan to attach?
  • [21:12:08] <spacecolonyone> I'm going directly from the connector to a stacking header and onto an expansion board with a cyclone 3
  • [21:13:31] <spacecolonyone> barring the expansion header, I'd say the total additional trace length on our board is around 1500 mils
  • [21:14:34] <woglinde> hm good now qt compiles without xcb
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  • [21:18:58] <_av500_> whatever 1500mils is
  • [21:19:32] <spacecolonyone> 1.5 inches 3.81 cm
  • [21:19:59] <mranostay> _av500_: so much better than metric
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  • [21:20:13] <_av500_> quiet, dont wake up ds2
  • [21:20:41] * mranostay kicks ds2 out of bed
  • [21:21:28] <_av500_> ....I work with energy to effect the transformation and evolution of the planet and all beings on it.....
  • [21:21:43] <_av500_> wont circle back
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  • [21:32:04] <mranostay> _av500_: you ok? :)
  • [21:32:21] <_av500_> sure
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  • [21:35:08] <_av500_> anyway, bed time
  • [21:36:26] <woglinde> si
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  • [21:36:48] <_av500_> oder noch ein bier von sp??ti?
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  • [21:39:37] <woglinde> av500 nein kein assi
  • [21:39:38] <mdp> zwei biere bitte
  • [21:39:45] <woglinde> mdp good
  • [21:40:27] <mdp> dinner rsn
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  • [21:40:46] <_av500_> woglinde: wieso assi?
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  • [21:50:03] <ds2> hmmmm
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  • [22:10:30] <alan_o> man.... another race condition.... arrrrrgh.
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  • [22:26:38] <alan_o> boom! NOP to the rescue
  • [22:26:43] <alan_o> out of here.....
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  • [23:09:30] <stevegee58> Is there a way to configure the g_ether USB0 on the Angstrom BeagleBone to start with a static IP address? I've tried messing with connman but can't figure it out.
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  • [23:15:14] <Tartarus> http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ ?
  • [23:16:30] <stevegee58> already been there like 10 times. the instructions don't work.
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  • [23:17:12] <stevegee58> for instance if i go to /usr/lib/connman/test/ and type ./get-services it doesn't print anything
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  • [23:18:57] <unsolo> stevegee58: should be possible iirc (off to bed)
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  • [23:53:38] <spacecolonyone> hey _av500_, i don't think you ever said one way or the other after I mentioned the trace length.
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