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  • [00:56:18] <beagleboneuser> can anyone answer my question?
  • [01:00:32] <scromp> not me
  • [01:00:39] <scromp> or i would've
  • [01:01:12] <beagleboneuser> ok thanks
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  • [01:07:01] <beagleboneuser> more so wondering if the beaglebone is MHL capable at all out of the box
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  • [01:20:24] <beagleboneuser> does anyone know if there is a pre-made case that fits a beaglebone with the dvi-d cape attached?
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  • [02:17:17] <riskable> I thought the GPIO pins were supposed to be super-low... LIke 3-4mA ?
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  • [05:17:39] <KeatonT> Any beaglebone pro's wan a help me get ADC working on a beaglebone running debian on the latest kernel
  • [05:22:17] <KeatonT> no /sys/devices/platform/tsc directory.
  • [05:22:40] <KeatonT> or /sys/devices/platform/omap/tsc
  • [05:24:03] <KeatonT> any ideas gents?
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  • [09:03:20] <moorejohn> Hi guy, Can I write and run java program (especially network) on beagle bone
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  • [11:37:14] <bobsickle> can't see why not
  • [11:37:52] <mru> maybe he can't program at all
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  • [11:41:50] <bobsickle> well if you can get some simple java running on an ubuntu desktop, you should be able to get the same code running on a beagle bone
  • [11:42:17] <bobsickle> so the question comes down to "can I write and run java programs?"
  • [11:42:51] <bobsickle> and the answer to that is "yes, google a java beginners tutorial"
  • [11:44:12] <adj> no, it won't work
  • [11:44:19] <adj> because it's java
  • [11:44:38] <adj> if it 'works' it's just an illusion
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  • [11:46:10] <bobsickle> are you asserting that java cannot run on the beaglebone, or are you just trying to confuse the issue with your opinions on java?
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  • [11:47:35] <dm8tbr> OMAP even has that jazelle IP block *giggle* *snort*
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  • [11:56:08] <adj> isn't that succeeded by TumbEE?
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  • [11:56:49] <adj> let me guess the number of open source JVM's supporting that: at least a jazillion
  • [11:56:58] <adj> *ThumbEE
  • [11:57:01] <bobsickle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle_RCT#Thumb_Execution_Environment_.28ThumbEE.29
  • [11:57:08] <bobsickle> same thing afaict
  • [11:57:14] <mru> not the same thing
  • [11:57:22] <mru> wikipedia is notoriously inaccurate about all things arm
  • [11:57:57] <adj> as with everything else
  • [11:58:13] <bobsickle> handy to know
  • [11:58:17] <mru> thumbee is a special mode with a few extra instructions intended to aid jit compilers for managed code
  • [11:58:43] <mru> for instance in a jvm backend
  • [11:59:04] <mru> jazelle executes jvm bytecode directly
  • [11:59:14] <mru> simple opcodes are handled entirely in hardware
  • [11:59:39] <mru> complex ones invoke an interpreter in, supposedly, an efficient way
  • [12:01:07] <bobsickle> so what's the difference between Jazelle RCT and Jazelle DBX?
  • [12:16:57] <bobsickle> <tumbleweed>
  • [12:20:31] <mru> good question
  • [12:20:40] <mru> the jazelle docs are restricted even within arm
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  • [13:24:06] <jakeday> anyone interest in looking over a guide I wrote to get slackware (well, armedslack) running on the beaglebone?
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  • [14:31:12] <riskable> Am I correct in measuring 3.3V @ 60mA coming out of gpio38 when I turn it on?
  • [14:31:14] <riskable> I thought the GPIO pins were supposed to be super-low... LIke 3-4mA ?
  • [14:31:43] <mru> what load are you attaching to it?
  • [14:31:51] <mru> I don't know how much they can drive
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  • [14:33:36] <riskable> Well, this was with an LED hooked up
  • [14:33:43] <riskable> 220 ohm resistor
  • [14:33:55] <riskable> Essentially, the blink tutorial from Make
  • [14:34:46] <mru> 3.3V through 220 ohm and an LED can in no way produce 60mA
  • [14:34:48] <riskable> Watching their video it concerned me that they used only a 220 ohm resistor since I could've sworn that I read somewhere that the GPIO pins on the Beaglebone were only supposed to output ~4mA
  • [14:34:58] <mru> with a green LED you'd get about 5.5 mA
  • [14:35:35] <mru> you do know ohm's law?
  • [14:36:12] <riskable> Yeah
  • [14:36:34] <riskable> Well, I measured the output from the pin to my multimeter... The LED was probably only pulling 5.5mA like you said
  • [14:36:51] <mru> how did you attach the multimeter?
  • [14:37:12] <lautriv> riskable, (3v3-2v)/220R ~0.0059
  • [14:40:30] <riskable> Give me a sec, I'm setting up this little experiment again :)
  • [14:43:01] <riskable> This is strange, I can't seem to power my Beaglebone via VDD_5V this morning
  • [14:44:21] <jkridner___> jakeday: I'm interested in seeing it.
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  • [14:45:43] <riskable> Strange... Apparently the + rail on the right side of my breadboard broke at some point between last night and this morning. The BB powers up just fine if I use the rail on the left
  • [14:45:54] <jkridner___> er, reviewing it even.
  • [14:46:32] <riskable> Right now my best guess is this: Children. I left it out in the open. I mistakenly figured it would be safe considering it was unplugged and the power connector was out of sight!
  • [14:47:00] <mru> batteries ftw!
  • [14:47:06] <riskable> Crap, I have to go... bbl
  • [14:47:12] <riskable> Figures, right as I'm just about done
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  • [14:53:39] <jakeday> ok
  • [14:55:51] <jakeday> here's the link for my slackware on beaglebone guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11H6tDZ9dtQa_Pijjh5tLOLVa1JGJ3-IpPTMUfNcxLBY/edit
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  • [14:56:38] <jakeday> jkridner__: let me know if it's straightforward enough and easy to follow
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  • [14:57:59] <xenland> Does ubuntu work with 7" lcd + Beaglebone (Not beagleboard)
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  • [17:03:34] <riskable> OK, with gpio38 on (echo 1 > value) I am getting 59.2mA going from the pin to ground on my multimeter
  • [17:05:54] <riskable> ...and the reading going from the LED to ground is 3.3mA
  • [17:27:28] <lautriv> riskable, you know an amperemeter is used to be connected in series to the circuit ?
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  • [17:41:18] <lautriv> damn ISP-cut always talking to a wall :(
  • [17:41:37] <lautriv> riskable, got my last line ?
  • [17:43:32] <mru> I figured he'd come back with something like that
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  • [17:44:46] <lautriv> mru, yes. but claiming to know ohm's law failed somehow ;)
  • [17:45:12] <mru> well, we've seen worse here
  • [17:45:12] <riskable> Ig ot it
  • [17:45:26] <riskable> I haven't worked with electronics in 1.5 years. All this stuff fell right out of my head
  • [17:45:47] <mru> like the guy who'd "never experienced a halting problem"
  • [17:46:09] <lautriv> riskable, seriously if you forgot in that short time, it was never IN.
  • [17:46:17] <riskable> 1.5 years ago I built an RFID cloner, a 4 8x8 LED matrix display (using shift registers), and several other things... Apparently I've forgotten everything :(
  • [17:46:37] <mru> I haven't done anything serious with electronics for ~10 years
  • [17:46:52] <riskable> Actually, maybe it was 2 years ago now
  • [17:46:54] <mru> but I can still whip up a simple transistor circuit if needed
  • [17:47:06] <riskable> My memory sucks
  • [17:47:18] <riskable> 37th percentile long-term (I've been tested--it's a problem)
  • [17:47:25] <mru> maybe you should have got the ecc version after all
  • [17:48:18] <riskable> Once I figure this out (again), and then maybe one more time it should be locked in :)
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  • [17:50:50] <lautriv> at least, now you know the GPIO is somewhat short-circuit protected ;)
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  • [17:52:00] <aholler> who knows, he already said some rail is broken
  • [17:52:22] <guyzmo> hey in there
  • [17:53:00] <guyzmo> I got highlighted like 12 hours ago, and how my god, I didn't realize the kind of stupid questions that were asked since then (and I haven't read the whole backlog :p)
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  • [17:53:16] <guyzmo> glad to see I'm not asking the most stupid ones :)
  • [17:53:54] <riskable> The rail on my breadboard is broken... It is old and has been through a lot :D
  • [17:53:59] <guyzmo> maybe we shall write and maintain an IRC FAQ
  • [17:55:48] <mru> well, there's http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/ ...
  • [17:56:27] <guyzmo> and I think the first FAQ answer should be "U=RI" :)
  • [17:57:05] <mru> no, the top answer is http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
  • [17:57:18] <guyzmo> ahah :)
  • [17:58:04] <guyzmo> like it :)
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  • [17:59:35] * guyzmo is happy, today is my i2c-free day \o/
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  • [18:02:52] <guyzmo> and reading the mailing list
  • [18:03:03] <guyzmo> I should add I'm happy to say it's a connman-free day too :p
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  • [18:08:09] <mru> why do people install that annoying thing?
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  • [18:19:07] <guyzmo> mru - why is it per default in angstrom ?
  • [18:19:14] <riskable> I'm trying the same circuit (lighting a row of LEDs on an 8x8 matrix) with gpio39 and it isn't working at all. It seems "echo 1 > value" on that one doesn't do anything at all. The direction is set to 'out'
  • [18:20:23] <guyzmo> riskable - did you try to check the voltage between the pin and the ground ?
  • [18:20:33] <riskable> No :)
  • [18:20:42] <guyzmo> you should first try that out
  • [18:20:53] <guyzmo> to check if your code is wrong, or your electronics
  • [18:24:54] <riskable> That won't cause a problem? Pin->ground?
  • [18:25:12] <riskable> Earlier in this channel someone suggested I *not* do that :)
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  • [18:27:33] <guyzmo> riskable - ohm's law again
  • [18:27:55] <guyzmo> your voltmeter has more than 1MOhm resistance
  • [18:28:18] <guyzmo> your pin is outputing about 3.3V
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  • [18:30:03] <guyzmo> U=RI => 3.3=1M*I <=> I=3.3/1000000 <=> I=.0000033A
  • [18:30:52] <guyzmo> and that means, it's almost equivalent as an open circuit
  • [18:32:10] <guyzmo> and you know what, I've learned Ohm's law in 2001 and haven't done electronics for 9 years in the mean time
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  • [18:35:48] <guyzmo> riskable - here is an introduction course to electronics : http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-002-circuits-and-electronics-spring-2007/
  • [18:36:28] <guyzmo> you should definitevely watch/read/exercise it thoroughly, so you understand what you do, even before you use a multimeter
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  • [18:43:36] <riskable> Maybe a GPIO mode is set on these pins that makes them work differently than gpio38? Hmm
  • [18:44:50] <lautriv> riskable, maybe this one was not that hard to kill ?
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  • [18:45:16] <riskable> Well other ports work fine :P
  • [18:45:27] <riskable> Why would one or two ports stop working while everything else is fine?
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  • [18:45:39] <riskable> This is the first time I've used these two particular GPIOs anyway
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  • [18:46:28] <lautriv> riskable, tons of reasons, at least you mentioned a row of 8 LED and never said something about a buffer.
  • [18:47:15] <riskable> lautriv: Actually, it was a row of LEDs but I was only lighting the first one... 220ohm resistor
  • [18:47:21] <riskable> Just a basic green LED
  • [18:54:38] <riskable> GPIO1_3 == gpio35 in sysfs, right?
  • [18:55:05] <riskable> When I try to export that gpio it gives me: -sh: echo: write error: Device or resource busy
  • [18:55:27] <riskable> ...but there's no gpio35 in /sys/class/gpio
  • [19:01:07] <riskable> Googling around I'm not the first person to have this problem, apparently :)
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  • [19:23:18] <riskable> After testing, it seems that only gpio34, gpio35, and gpio39 are not working as expected
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  • [20:33:28] <lautriv> riskable, are thos intended to be an output ?
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  • [21:25:43] <Stevetronics_> hey has anybody here played with arch on the beaglebone at all?
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  • [21:29:59] <jakeday> yeah
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  • [21:31:46] <Stevetronics_> I have a stoopid question then
  • [21:31:56] <Stevetronics_> what's the default username/password combo?
  • [21:37:48] <jakeday> right
  • [21:37:54] <jakeday> did you look at the readme?
  • [21:39:40] <jakeday> username and password are both root i believe
  • [21:40:01] <jakeday> i moved away from arch and put slackware on mine
  • [21:40:11] <Stevetronics_> hmm
  • [21:40:12] <Stevetronics_> ok thanks
  • [21:40:19] <jakeday> np
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  • [21:53:01] <STrRedWolf> Any good wifi capes for the 'bone?
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  • [22:03:34] <enthdegree> hello, all
  • [22:04:05] <enthdegree> anyone know what the de-facto standard distro is for embedded systems like the beagleboard?
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  • [22:15:04] <riskable> lautriv: Yes, intending to use them as outputs
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  • [22:19:27] <aholler> enthdegree: busybox
  • [22:19:39] <enthdegree> aholler, sounds like a fun time
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  • [22:35:44] <trelane> any recommendations on a stable wireless adapter for the Beaglebone?
  • [22:37:30] <STrRedWolf> I'm looking for one that's connected by SPI myself, ether the TI1271/3 or the P54 Softmac.
  • [22:38:12] <jakeday> trelane: are you wanting a cheap one?
  • [22:38:48] <jakeday> i'm using a ralink 5370sta usb wifi micro dongle, got it form amazon shipped for a total of $6.10
  • [22:38:55] <trelane> jakeday, not looking for egregiously expensive, but I've had problems with the ralinks
  • [22:39:00] <jakeday> lol
  • [22:39:04] <trelane> have two of 'em sitting here
  • [22:39:07] <jakeday> my ralink works great
  • [22:39:09] <trelane> both explode
  • [22:39:10] <jakeday> those?
  • [22:39:55] <jakeday> i'm connected to my home wireless n network now doing an upgrade
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  • [22:40:23] <jakeday> that said, i've heard nothing but good things from the netgear n150
  • [22:40:36] <trelane> yep, I'm running into a 2wire running CCMP
  • [22:40:39] <jakeday> i just went with cheap, cause if it didn't work it was only $6
  • [22:40:55] <jakeday> interesting
  • [22:41:07] <trelane> the rawlinks either jam up loading the module, or the atheros dies with a memory allocation problem (Wtih plenty of spare ram)
  • [22:41:42] <jakeday> i had to make some changes to the module source before i compiled it, but all is well
  • [22:41:53] <STrRedWolf> Got a link to the card, jakeday?
  • [22:42:05] <jakeday> compiled it for my 3.1 kernel running on armedslack
  • [22:42:10] <jakeday> link on amazon?
  • [22:42:13] <STrRedWolf> Yes.
  • [22:42:17] <jakeday> one sec
  • [22:42:41] <jakeday> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004I8B8Z6
  • [22:43:00] <jakeday> SANOXY brand, but using ralink chipset
  • [22:43:10] <jakeday> specifically the 5370sta as mentioned
  • [22:43:49] <STrRedWolf> Okay, checking it out now.
  • [22:43:53] <jakeday> ok
  • [22:44:03] <jakeday> like i said, mine is working great
  • [22:44:59] <jakeday> i just downloaded all the required packages for slackware to get x11 running
  • [22:45:37] <jakeday> been ssh'd to it all day today as well
  • [22:46:02] <STrRedWolf> What driver does it run? ath9k_htc or rt2800usb?
  • [22:47:55] <STrRedWolf> You probably have to lsmod to find out.
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  • [22:49:15] <jakeday> it's running their new rt537x driver (rt5370sta per config and lsmod), which i believe is derived from their older rt28xx module
  • [22:51:55] <STrRedWolf> Must be new in the 3.x series.
  • [22:52:56] <jakeday> perhaps
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  • [22:56:23] <STrRedWolf> Ahhh okay, it's in staging now. Not a prob.
  • [22:57:17] <jakeday> ok
  • [22:59:56] <STrRedWolf> I'm running Gentoo on my 'bone. So all I would need is the AA battery shield, two SD breakouts, and I shall have my own wifi hotspot!
  • [23:04:16] <jakeday> very nice
  • [23:04:38] <jakeday> i tried gentoo, ubuntu, angstrom, and arch.... i just had to have my beloved slackware!
  • [23:04:48] <jakeday> loving my beaglebon, though
  • [23:04:59] <jakeday> beaglebone*
  • [23:06:18] <STrRedWolf> Yep, I started up on Slackware but when Pat went into the hospital and I needed a more tuned system I jumped to Slackware.
  • [23:06:32] <STrRedWolf> From Slackware to Gentoo.
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  • [23:06:44] <STrRedWolf> Besides, i was compiling my own kernels by then.
  • [23:07:33] <STrRedWolf> That reminds me, anyone check if 3.4.x supports the 'Bone?
  • [23:07:48] <mru> what kind of man doesn't build his own kernel?
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  • [23:07:57] <jakeday> i have only tried up to 3.3.7
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  • [23:09:45] <lautriv> mru, what kind of man is using ubuntu and not even mentioning debian ?
  • [23:10:25] <STrRedWolf> Grepping through a 3.4 source. Looks like it's in there.
  • [23:15:35] <lautriv> STrRedWolf, talking about vanilla kernel ?
  • [23:15:49] <STrRedWolf> Yes.
  • [23:16:01] <STrRedWolf> I run vanilla on my amd64 laptops.
  • [23:16:22] <lautriv> STrRedWolf, why should they remove it, when it was in former versions ?
  • [23:17:07] <STrRedWolf> Well, I was looking at 3.2, and the vanilla didn't have it. 3.3 I think didn't have it eather.
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  • [23:18:10] <lautriv> STrRedWolf, so your former version was not vanilla, that's another case.
  • [23:19:05] <STrRedWolf> Yeah, it's currently running on a patched git-version 3.2
  • [23:19:27] <riskable> BTW: I figured out why the power rail on the right side of my breadboard wasn't working to power the Beaglebone... My son was playing around with the voltage switch and changed it to be 3.3V :)
  • [23:19:32] <riskable> Don't know why I didn't think to check that earlier
  • [23:19:46] <riskable> (probably because my children distracting me =)
  • [23:20:53] <riskable> I've had it set to 5V for so long I completely forgot it was adjustable, hah
  • [23:21:16] <riskable> Very satisfied with that purchase though. Highly recommended: http://www.adafruit.com/products/184
  • [23:22:26] <STrRedWolf> Ahhh yes, Adafruit is always good. I gotta look at that for another project.
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  • [23:29:19] <STrRedWolf> Oh! That's where I saw it. CircuitCo's BeagleBoardToys has the 4-AA battery cape.
  • [23:32:37] <STrRedWolf> Catcha all later.
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  • [23:38:18] <riskable> Interesting: If I use cloud9 and run blinkled.js I can get the GPIO pins in question to work properly
  • [23:38:37] <riskable> It seems that I only encounter problems using them when using the sysfs interface via the shell
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