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  • [00:05:02] <KeatonT> Quick question.
  • [00:05:28] <KeatonT> Does the current kernel image for the beaglebone on the debian distro support one wire.
  • [00:05:38] <riskable> Dang, disabling power management didn't help with the packet loss
  • [00:05:45] <riskable> KeatonT: Let me check...
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  • [00:06:30] <riskable> 1-wire shows up as w1, right?
  • [00:06:41] <KeatonT> yep
  • [00:06:48] <riskable> Then it's there
  • [00:08:22] <KeatonT> So as long as I have the w1-gpio connected to P8_6
  • [00:08:23] <KeatonT> w1-gpio connected to P8_6
  • [00:08:34] <KeatonT> That is what I got when I do a dmesg | grep w1
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  • [00:10:51] <Sh0rtWave> hi all
  • [00:11:40] <riskable> Hey there
  • [00:12:12] <riskable> I'm going to walk down the hall a bit to where my router is and see if it is just this USB wifi adapter's range that is causing the packet loss
  • [00:12:42] <riskable> (taking my laptop with me =)
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  • [00:14:40] <riskable> Nope, it's just a POS
  • [00:14:53] <riskable> Even two feet from the router I'm still getting ~50% packet loss
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  • [00:48:59] <Sh0rtWave> Hi, so question
  • [00:49:07] <Sh0rtWave> I see Errata #8
  • [00:49:23] <Sh0rtWave> I don't know if I have the board version that suffers from it
  • [00:49:30] <Sh0rtWave> I've got an xM board...
  • [00:49:56] <Sh0rtWave> Does the xM suffer from serial Errata #8?
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  • [01:08:39] <riskable> So say I wanted to make a .bb for the Realtek 8192cu wireless USB dongle... Their website is setup specifically so you CANNOT link to the files. However, the license is GPL so I should be able to host it wherever. The question is: Know of any good sites that will host such a thing for free to the public?
  • [01:08:48] <riskable> ...where I could put it in a wget
  • [01:09:02] <riskable> Actually, I'll just start a github project and use that
  • [01:09:48] <KeatonT> lol
  • [01:14:10] <aholler_> mru: so you mean non-existing modules could work outside X?
  • [01:14:31] <mru> aholler_: they'll work as well as they do inside it
  • [01:14:47] <Sh0rtWave> Ok so I have a beagleboard xM revision C<something>
  • [01:15:09] <Sh0rtWave> I've got an FTDI FT232R USB->Serial breakout board that I'm using.
  • [01:15:12] <aholler_> ah, they don't care for existence
  • [01:15:13] <Sh0rtWave> I got good results once
  • [01:15:22] <aholler_> didn't know that
  • [01:15:43] <Sh0rtWave> but I couldn't get any tx data. The board version seems to be C, but it acted just like Errata #8..now I get nothing but garbage.
  • [01:15:52] <Sh0rtWave> Maybe the problem is levels , but I'm just not sure
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  • [01:41:49] <riskable> Anyone know how to force a wireless adapter to use 802.11g instead of 802.11n
  • [01:41:50] <riskable> ?
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  • [01:48:13] <Sh0rtWave> Anyone here?
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  • [01:51:01] <riskable> I'm here
  • [01:51:45] <riskable> Trying to figure out why my realtek 8192cu USB wifi dongle is getting so much packet loss
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  • [01:53:21] <furan> hi
  • [01:54:40] <furan> I have some libraries I need installed, as well as some settings I want to change, but every time I reboot my beaglebone they're gone. I understand this might be because everything is loaded from sd into ram. is there some way to maintain the contents of the filesystem? would flashing the os into nand help me here?
  • [01:56:46] <furan> my worry is that I have to build my own image with the libraries I want, and the configuration I want, and then boot from that on sd (or flash that) and that I'll never be able to have the / filesystem be non volatile
  • [02:06:11] <kaektech> The SD card is non-volatile. The whole SD card isn't written to RAM. Are you familiar with how a Linux system works?
  • [02:07:29] <kaektech> The SD card is like a hard-drive. Only smaller, cuter and solid state.
  • [02:08:28] <kaektech> In other words, whatever you are doing wrong has nothing to do with the hardware.
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  • [02:27:57] <furan> kaektech: is there some reason what I change on the fs isn't being flushed to sd?
  • [02:28:06] <furan> e.g. I reboot and everything is gone
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  • [03:13:59] <kaektech> furan: huh? Do you know how to save a config file in Linux? Perhaps you should better re-format this question for a different audience.
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  • [03:19:34] <fiola> Sounds to me like furan is asking a reasonable question, and it's certainly on topic since it's for his BeagleBone. Since this isn't #beagle-experts-only, a bit of help wouldn't go amiss. Unfortunately there wasn't enough info in the question. What O/S? How did you "install" stuff only to have it vanish, to where? Etc.
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  • [03:31:02] <furan> kaektech: obviously I do
  • [03:31:29] <furan> all I mean is that the file system is not saved after a reboot. libs I installed with opkg are gone. files in /etc I edited before, with settings that worked, are gone
  • [03:32:00] <furan> I'm using the stock angstrom os, on the sd card that it came with
  • [03:32:06] <furan> s/os/distribution
  • [03:32:39] <furan> as much as I like fanboys who go on about "you don't know how to save a file", it's just that the filesystem is in ram and not getting flushed back to the sd card, ever. I will do more research on it.
  • [03:33:21] * furan wonders if kaektech even has a beagle device
  • [03:34:10] <mru> ever heard of umount and/or sync?
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  • [03:34:53] <fiola> All *nix filestore is in RAM, it's only flushed out to disk asynchronously. But that happens all the time and it's exceedingly unlikely that the dirty block buffers in RAM aren't getting written out, unless you're actually using a ramdisk instead of main filestore. But you're not, since you're talking about /etc, which is not in ramdisk. So youre question is valid.
  • [03:35:34] * mru has had systems with /etc in ram
  • [03:35:46] <mru> with everything in ram, in fact
  • [03:35:51] <furan> the device lost power, so maybe it lost power before the changes could be flushed to disk
  • [03:36:08] <furan> I imagine with sd it would take a while for them to get written. I installed a bunch of libs.
  • [03:36:54] <furan> but I edited the /etc files much earlier :/ and they definitely got saved, heh
  • [03:36:58] <fiola> Aye, very common with systems using a COW fs overlaying a readonly media. But that's not the case for furan because he's using stock Angstrom that came with the bgeaglebone
  • [03:37:21] <furan> thanks guys. I'll try this again and do a real shutdown and see what happens
  • [03:37:52] <fiola> GL :-)
  • [03:37:58] <mru> fiola: that's not what I was doing
  • [03:39:21] <fiola> I guess it's possible that he's got an SD card that isn't write-enabled. I know that full-size SD cards have a write switch, dunno about these transflash things
  • [03:39:52] <furan> are there any good samples out there on going the mmap wrote for driving gpio
  • [03:39:52] <mru> uSD cards don't have that
  • [03:39:54] <furan> ?
  • [03:40:57] <furan> sorry, I mean ? to the end of what I wrote
  • [03:42:48] <fiola> furan: there's a video linked on elinux.org/BeagleBone about GPIO programming. I haven't watched it yet though, so can't say if it's relevant.
  • [03:42:53] <furan> haha. apparently the fs changes did get persisted, it just didn't drop the headers where I expect them (usr/inc)
  • [03:42:56] <furan> thanks
  • [03:43:05] <furan> er, usr/include
  • [03:43:30] <furan> I installed libavcodec-dev, and I expect a dir called 'libavcodec' under /usr/include, no such dir. no avcodec.h under the tree of /usr/include.
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  • [03:45:51] <fiola> Ask opkg to tell you what files it's installed and where --- opkg files libavcodec-dev
  • [03:45:56] <furan> thx
  • [03:46:39] <furan> that's weird.
  • [03:46:44] <furan> the package only has the .so in it
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  • [03:47:32] <furan> when I installed it on ubuntu, I got the headers. the package description on debian.org says: This package contains the header files and static libraries needed to compile applications or shared objects that use libavcodec.
  • [03:48:00] <furan> same for libswscale-dev
  • [03:48:02] <furan> weirder.
  • [03:48:29] <fiola> Don't assume any similarity to Ubuntu. Angstrom is its own specific animal
  • [03:49:01] <furan> is there a way to do a wildcard lookup with opkg?
  • [03:49:08] <furan> e.g. if I wanted to see libswscale-*?
  • [03:49:19] <fiola> opkg list | grep whatever
  • [03:49:30] <furan> got it
  • [03:50:20] <fiola> I'm only just learning this stuff, it's all new to me since I come from the Gentoo world. Seems fine though
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  • [03:56:03] <furan> I could just copy hte headers but I think I will just go ahead and try the ubuntu image
  • [03:57:49] <fiola> Well the headers have to be somewhere. If they weren't in -dev then I'd expect them to be in the two other versioned libavcodec packages
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  • [04:01:29] <furan> yeah I tried both, the later one was already installed
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  • [05:42:29] <prasant> I setup debian hard float port on my Beaglebone and the board takes twice the time to boot as compared to Angstrom. Does systemd makes that much of a difference for Angstrom? or there has been other optimizations that has been done?
  • [05:44:38] <fiola> Angstrom is based on busybox, so a lot of utilities are much sleaker (but less functional). I'm only just guessing since not tried Ubuntu, but I'd assume that makes quite a difference.
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  • [05:44:55] <fiola> s/Ubuntu/Debian/ sorry
  • [05:45:34] <fiola> I'll give Debian a try as soon as I've popped out for a few SD cards
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  • [05:49:11] <prasant> fiola: yes, busybox is another good point about angstrom.
  • [05:49:35] <fiola> Re "good", YMMV :P
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  • [07:41:47] <fiola> beaglebone$ runlevel
  • [07:41:47] <fiola> 1
  • [07:42:03] <fiola> beaglebone$ who -r
  • [07:42:03] <fiola> run-level 5 Jan 1 00:00
  • [07:42:07] <fiola> Hahahaha
  • [07:42:41] <av500> run level, run
  • [07:42:45] <fiola> Poor thing, can't make its mind up :P
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  • [07:45:07] <koen> fiola: systemd has no concept of 'runlevel', but lots of apps check for numeric output from /usr/bin/runlevel
  • [07:45:35] <mru> indeed, with systemd it's all uphill
  • [07:45:39] <mru> both ways
  • [07:45:51] <fiola> Ah, so who and runlevel just use different placeholder integers I guess
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  • [07:51:58] <fiola> Could replace /usr/bin/runlevel's "echo 1" by /usr/bin/who -r | /usr/bin/awk '{print $2}'
  • [07:52:35] <fiola> Or cut etc
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  • [07:55:32] <koen> what would that get you?
  • [07:55:32] <koen> a slower version that's equally missleading
  • [07:55:56] <mru> but you were already misled by lennart
  • [07:55:59] <mru> so what's a little more?
  • [07:56:33] <fiola> If the speed of "runlevel" matters, we'd have other issues to worry about :P
  • [07:57:30] * av500 runs at level 99 always
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  • [07:59:08] <fiola> I don't know systemd because I come from Gentoo, but if everyone hates it so, why use it?
  • [07:59:54] <av500> fiola: not everybody
  • [08:00:02] <av500> a vocal minority only
  • [08:00:12] <fiola> Heh
  • [08:00:25] <av500> e.g. ubuntu does not use it, so all the ubuntu users cannot hate it
  • [08:00:58] <av500> so far only fedora users have the priviledge to be able to hate it
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  • [10:19:13] <Mik__> hello guys,
  • [10:19:37] <Mik__> I managed to screw up the SD card of my BeagleBoard xM, running Angstrom
  • [10:19:55] <Mik__> I am recreating new images but I don't get it quite right... so the question:
  • [10:20:18] <Mik__> is there a place where I could download the original TI image for BB xM running Angstrom Linux please?
  • [10:20:32] <av500> sure
  • [10:20:58] <Mik__> I found this one: Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img.gz but I was expecting a tar file...
  • [10:21:11] <Mik__> I don't know how to handle .img :-(
  • [10:21:39] <av500> dd handles it fine
  • [10:21:48] <av500> and you asked for an *image*
  • [10:21:57] <Mik__> good point :-)
  • [10:22:14] <Mik__> I'll read about dd, thanks
  • [10:23:35] <Mik__> I presume the idea is that I extract with dd the boot partition and the Narcisus partition and then copy them over the sd card.... as I would do using a tar?
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  • [10:25:43] <av500> no
  • [10:25:47] <av500> it's an image
  • [10:25:56] <av500> you just write it to the card
  • [10:26:03] <av500> since it's an image
  • [10:26:09] <LetoThe2nd> Mik__: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [10:26:20] <LetoThe2nd> Mik__: "how to unpack and boot the image"
  • [10:26:35] <LetoThe2nd> ah no, ignore me for now.
  • [10:27:11] <aholler> cat image >/dev/mmcfoo
  • [10:27:19] <LetoThe2nd> aholler: if its unpacked.
  • [10:27:28] <LetoThe2nd> if its gz, go for zcat.
  • [10:27:47] <Mik__> it's a .img, which I am not familiar with :-(
  • [10:27:51] <LetoThe2nd> be inspired by http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
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  • [10:29:36] <Mik__> LetoThe2nd & aholler: from these links it seems like I should just $ cat my.img > /dev/sdb
  • [10:29:49] <Mik__> I'll try, what is the worst it can happen? :-D
  • [10:30:53] <tasslehoff> /dev/sdb could be one of your HDDs/SSDs
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  • [10:31:29] <Mik__> I'm quite sure /dev/sdb is the one, as it shows up properly using gparted....
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  • [10:44:49] <tasslehoff> Mik__: good to go then. someone here chose the wrong partition once, so I'm cautious :)
  • [10:46:14] <Mik__> tasslehoff: you are absolutely right :-)
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  • [11:16:27] <Andi> Hello, I installed ArchLinuxARM on my BeagleBoard-xM Rev C and now the Ethernet and USB is not working! Can someone please help me?
  • [11:17:21] <av500> does not work does not work: https://plus.google.com/u/0/108138837678270193032/posts
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  • [11:25:15] <Andi> Hello, I installed ArchLinuxARM on my BeagleBoard-xM Rev C and now the Ethernet and USB is not working! Can someone please help me?
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  • [11:31:32] <Andi> Hello, I installed ArchLinuxARM on my BeagleBoard-xM Rev C and now the Ethernet and USB is not working! Can someone please help me?
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  • [12:57:25] <Mik__> sorry guys, I am now really frustrated! I can't manage to recreate a working img with Angstrom Linux.
  • [12:57:30] <Mik__> I followed this: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [12:57:36] <Mik__> and it doesn't even boot
  • [12:58:18] <Mik__> although it is suspicious as it creates two partitions named 'boot' and 'Angstrom', while the instructions seem to refer to 'rootfs' partition for the file system
  • [12:58:33] <Mik__> but I thought that this approach should work:
  • [12:58:43] <Mik__> cat tiImage.img > /dev/sdb
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  • [12:59:03] <Mik__> but it doesn't write it as it gives me permission denied even when running as sudo
  • [12:59:03] <av500> Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img.gz
  • [12:59:11] <av500> this one
  • [12:59:51] <Mik__> Ok, I'll try that. I guess I will unzip it first right?
  • [13:00:05] <ogra_> just use zcat
  • [13:00:15] <Mik__> although I don't think I should have got 'permission denied' with a wrong image....???
  • [13:00:34] <av500> cat does not care for that image it writes
  • [13:00:40] <ogra_> are you trying to cat as a user to the disk device ?
  • [13:01:01] <av500> for what*
  • [13:01:02] <ogra_> you need to have full write permission to /dev/sdb in your case
  • [13:01:09] <Mik__> sudo cat Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img >/dev/sdb
  • [13:01:18] <ogra_> that wont work
  • [13:01:38] <ogra_> use sudo -s
  • [13:01:49] <ogra_> and then cat or zcat
  • [13:02:12] <ogra_> in your command above the sudo applies to the cat, but not to the redirect
  • [13:02:29] <ogra_> (i.e. >/dev/sdb is executed as a user)
  • [13:02:32] <Mik__> ah! thanks for explaining this
  • [13:03:04] <Mik__> $ sudo -s zcat Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img >/dev/sdb
  • [13:03:16] <ogra_> you could use something like "cat foo.img | sudo tee /dev/foo" ...
  • [13:03:25] <Mik__> still a problem about permissions
  • [13:03:26] <ogra_> no, sudo -s
  • [13:03:33] <av500> or dd and a bs=4M to maybe make it faster
  • [13:03:33] <ogra_> not any command after that
  • [13:03:39] <ogra_> it will give you a root shell
  • [13:03:46] <av500> sudo su
  • [13:03:53] <ogra_> yeah, dd is better than tee for sure
  • [13:04:00] <Mik__> ok, I am understanding now (I hope:)
  • [13:04:00] <ogra_> dont use sudo su ...
  • [13:04:17] <ogra_> sudo su will carry over the user env
  • [13:04:25] <aholler> sudo "zcat img >foo"
  • [13:04:37] <ogra_> yeah, quoting helps too
  • [13:04:37] <av500> sudo su -
  • [13:04:55] <Mik__> now it is going... thanks guys!
  • [13:05:01] <ogra_> that should work, though i would still rather rely on sudo doing the right think with -s or -i
  • [13:05:07] <aholler> without the quotes you are just sending the nothing to foo
  • [13:05:18] <aholler> nothing = output of zcat
  • [13:05:33] <av500> zmiaow
  • [13:05:53] <aholler> hmm, wrong, anyway, just use quotes or get root ;)
  • [13:05:53] <dm8tbr> zLOLCAT?
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  • [13:06:16] <av500> dm8tbr: yes, for zlul
  • [13:06:29] <av500> zlulz in fact
  • [13:06:46] <Mik__> :-D
  • [13:07:11] <dm8tbr> zlolcat has invisible bike^woutput!
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  • [13:08:19] <aholler> cats are totally stupid. the one of my parents no learned, after 3 years, how to climb down a ladder, but he is too stupid to climb back up.
  • [13:08:21] <dm8tbr> .oO(lolcat and roflcopter extensions for cowsay...)
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  • [13:09:36] <MrDuck> hello, does someone have experience with qemu-omap3? It segfaults when starting a working beagle_cx image
  • [13:09:44] <ogra_> aholler, its a matter of perspective ... if you carry the cat up the ladder once it doesnt get back up, i would actually call it a clever cat :)
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  • [13:16:22] <av500> angs: this dmesg is after booting
  • [13:16:27] <av500> no?
  • [13:16:40] <angs> no after update and upgrade
  • [13:16:50] <angs> I didnt see any error msg after that operation
  • [13:17:14] <av500> no
  • [13:17:17] <av500> its a boot log
  • [13:17:25] <av500> the error is reported when mounting the ext4
  • [13:18:00] <MrDuck> does anyone know qemu-omap3? for me it segfaults on startup. any tutorials/ideas?
  • [13:18:05] <MrDuck> thx!
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  • [13:18:44] <angs> do you think that formating and installation angstroms dist was not successful?
  • [13:19:28] <av500> installing angstrom does not involve "opkg upgrade"
  • [13:20:10] <riskable> angs: Do you still want my Angstrom image with the 8192cu driver?
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  • [13:20:28] <angs> yes riskable, I was checking your webpage but could not see any new thread
  • [13:20:36] <angs> related 8192cu
  • [13:20:57] <riskable> angs: When I said I'll put it on "riskable.com somewhere" I meant I'd just upload it to riskable.com/files or something :)
  • [13:21:11] <angs> ah ok :)
  • [13:21:12] <riskable> I didn't mean I'd post a blog update. I haven't updated that blog in years, LOL
  • [13:21:15] <angs> I did not know it
  • [13:21:19] <riskable> I'll make an image for you now :)
  • [13:21:29] <angs> thank you very much :)
  • [13:22:25] <ogra_> angs, did you properly unmount the SD after writing the angstrom image to it ?
  • [13:22:51] <riskable> angs: How do you want it? As a whole SD card image or just two tarballs containing the filesystems in question?
  • [13:22:59] <ogra_> sounds like the kernel just detects on boot that it wasnt properly unmounted, then this message is totally normal
  • [13:23:14] <angs> <riskable>: I would appreciate for the whole SD card
  • [13:23:32] <riskable> angs: OK, I'll make a dd image of the entirety of /dev/sdc for ya
  • [13:23:35] <angs> ogra_: I did not unmounted it
  • [13:23:40] <ogra_> aha
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  • [13:24:10] <ogra_> then it is an expected message ... you could put it back into your PC and do an fsck
  • [13:24:22] <angs> riskable: thanks a lot
  • [13:24:30] <ogra_> (and make sure it was properly unmounted etc so it doesnt come up again)
  • [13:24:48] <angs> <ogra_>: thank you, I did not think about it
  • [13:25:07] <angs> I will load riskable's image
  • [13:25:16] <riskable> angs: No problem. Running "dd if=/dev/sdc of=/storage/beagleboard/angstrom_working_somewhat_8192cu_dd_image.img" right now :)
  • [13:26:36] <riskable> For reference, this is Angstrom built from the latest git repos two days ago with the Realtek 8192cu driver copied into /lib/modules/3.2.16/kernel/driver/net/wireless/rtlwifi
  • [13:27:12] <riskable> If you have your USB dongle plugged in when you boot up you can start it up with "ifup wlan0"
  • [13:27:37] <riskable> I just realized that I left /etc/network/interfaces configured to connect to my ESSID... So edit that file before you run "ifup wlan0"
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  • [13:28:18] <angs> thanks a lot
  • [13:28:45] <koen> stay away from /etc/network/interfaces
  • [13:28:45] <angs> could you give me the download link of the image file?
  • [13:28:49] <koen> have a look at http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/wifi.html
  • [13:31:01] <angs> it is very good tutorial, thank you
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  • [13:34:40] <riskable> angs: Uploading to my server now... Will take a few minutes
  • [13:35:43] <angs> riskable: ok thanks, I am looking forward to have the link
  • [13:36:41] <riskable> angs: When it is done it will be here: http://riskable.com/files/angstrom_working_somewhat_8192cu_dd_image.img.gz
  • [13:37:04] <koen> give http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.05.24.img.xz a try first
  • [13:38:02] <riskable> angs: I'll also upload the original files I used to create the image while I'm at it
  • [13:39:14] <ogra_> koen, oh, cloud9 ? so TI is into cloud computing now ? :)
  • [13:39:26] <riskable> koen: I didn't use conman because I wanted the ability to bring wlan0 up and down trivially while I switched drivers WHILE I still had eth0 connected
  • [13:42:33] <riskable> angs: FYI: the upload should be done in 10-15 minutes
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  • [13:43:50] <angs> I downloaded angstrom_working_somewhat_8192cu_dd_image.img.gz
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  • [13:44:50] <angs> 50.3 MB
  • [13:46:17] <Sh0rtWave> Hi all
  • [13:46:19] <riskable> Yeah, it's not done yet!
  • [13:46:32] <Sh0rtWave> I'm working with a Beagleboard xM Rev C
  • [13:46:39] <riskable> angs: I'm still uploading it
  • [13:46:47] <Sh0rtWave> and I'm running into similar problems as mentioned with serial Errata #8
  • [13:46:47] <angs> ok
  • [13:46:57] <Sh0rtWave> at least initially I was
  • [13:46:57] <riskable> The scp command says it still has about 5 minutes to go
  • [13:47:00] <Sh0rtWave> now I can't get it to work at all
  • [13:47:11] <riskable> Here's the md5sum for when you do get it: 9dd387ac7a8145f3a085461100d81b0b
  • [13:47:22] <angs> thank you
  • [13:47:49] <riskable> The file size is 698M
  • [13:48:00] * riskable is happy to have 5Mbit upload today
  • [13:49:19] <Mik__> av500: the image you suggested seems to work fine - thanks! The video resolution must be changed, but I don't care about that.
  • [13:49:38] <riskable> koen: For reference the rtl8192cu driver in the default build just plain doesn't work. It is permanently stuck thinking rfkill is soft-locked and the rfkill command won't let you turn off the soft lock
  • [13:50:20] <riskable> I got Realtek's 8192cu driver working but the result isn't the greatest... Pretty much 50% packet loss no matter what I do
  • [13:51:38] <riskable> angs: The upload is done. Grab it: http://riskable.com/files/angstrom_working_somewhat_8192cu_dd_image.img.gz
  • [13:52:10] <angs> <riskable>: Thanks a lot
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  • [13:53:00] <riskable> angs: I also uploaded the driver itself (which I just compiled fresh): http://riskable.com/files/8192cu.ko
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  • [13:53:35] <Sh0rtWave> Here's a question
  • [13:53:46] <av500> Russ: !!!!
  • [13:53:58] <Russ> morning
  • [13:54:02] <Sh0rtWave> I'm using an FTDI FT232R serial breakout. This is *intended* for RS-232.
  • [13:54:15] <Sh0rtWave> it worked a few times, but now I get nothing but noise
  • [13:54:19] <angs> I am download them, thanks a lot riskable
  • [13:54:20] <riskable> angs: That file might "just work" in an existing Beagleboard image if it is running kernel 3.2.16... Just copy it to /lib/modules/3.2.16/kernel/driver/net/wireless/rtlwifi/ and run "depmod -a". Then "modprobe -r rtl8192cu" and "modprobe 8192cu" and try it out
  • [13:54:34] <Sh0rtWave> which makes me wonder a couple of things, like maybe if there's a problem with serial levels but I have no way to find out at the moment.
  • [13:54:40] <Sh0rtWave> I need to get an oscope
  • [13:54:42] <riskable> So you could try it now while you're waiting for the larger download to finish :)
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  • [13:55:57] <aholler> Sh0rtWave: disconnect the dongle, unload the driver, reconnect the dongle
  • [13:56:20] <Sh0rtWave> with the beagleboard powered up I presume?
  • [13:56:40] <Sh0rtWave> This isn't so much a dongle as a sparkfun prototyping module
  • [13:57:01] <aholler> s/dongle/usb-plug/
  • [13:57:07] <koen> riskable: http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/wifi.html
  • [13:57:13] <koen> riskable: that deals with the rfkill issues
  • [13:57:26] <Sh0rtWave> didn't help
  • [13:57:30] <Sh0rtWave> Still got loads of noise
  • [13:57:33] <cboyd> i buillt the systemd-gnome-image for my beagleboard using oe-core. My beagleboard boots successfully. However, my usb mouse and keyboard does not work? Does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
  • [13:57:46] <riskable> koen: I followed that tutorial and it didn't work. I got the rfkill issues
  • [13:57:52] <koen> cboyd: install the usbhid module
  • [13:59:11] <aholler> Sh0rtWave: check cables if you have friggled it together yourself
  • [13:59:24] <riskable> I'm trying now from scratch though... Since I just made a whole-SD image backup :)
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  • [14:02:22] <Sh0rtWave> aholler: custom-built DB9 straight-through to a breadboard connection to my FT232
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  • [14:02:35] <Sh0rtWave> aholler: It DID work a few times
  • [14:02:51] <Sh0rtWave> with both of the modules I have
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  • [14:05:03] <aholler> then put away whatever cables you have lying next to your connection beagle <-> breakout.
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  • [14:09:49] <av500> Russ: read your g+
  • [14:11:10] <Russ> I know :)
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  • [14:11:28] <Russ> I finally got one
  • [14:11:40] <av500> then buy us all beer!
  • [14:11:58] <Russ> as soon as bunny sends the beer for life certificate
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  • [14:12:18] <Russ> I'll actually be in dfw tonight...so
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  • [14:13:43] <cboyd> i buillt the systemd-gnome-image for my beagleboard using oe-core. My beagleboard boots successfully. However, my usb mouse and keyboard does not work? Does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
  • [14:13:52] <cboyd> sorry for the second post ... i got disconnected
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  • [14:15:43] <koen> cboyd: install kernel-module-usbhid
  • [14:16:16] <koen> jkridner: arrived at the office?
  • [14:18:45] <jsabeaudry> If I write a file and pull the plug on my beaglebone shortly after, is it possible that the file will not be saved properly?
  • [14:19:25] <aholler> yes, use sync to avoid most problems without shutdown
  • [14:20:59] <jsabeaudry> aholler, are you referring to /bin/sync?
  • [14:21:34] <aholler> there is a sync-option for the fs too, but that will slow down everything a lot
  • [14:21:41] <cboyd> koen: thanks. Why is this module not installed by default? Just curious.
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  • [14:23:10] <koen> cboyd: between 3.0 and 3.2 a lot of things were turned into modules, we're still working out which ones are needed
  • [14:23:55] <koen> in other news: 16d2bbe linux-mainline 3.2.18: build in usbhid and tsc2007 and run 'make oldconfig'
  • [14:23:58] <koen> :)
  • [14:26:44] <cboyd> koen: thanks alot. Could you tell me where I can find documention detailing how to use the dsp on the beagleboard? Also, could you tell me where I can find information on installing and using gstreamer on the beagleboard?
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  • [14:27:57] <MrDuck> Hi Minou1!
  • [14:28:11] <cboyd> koen: I'm asking because I am working on the dm8148 platform which also uses the Cortex A8 and a DSP which combines the features of the C67x+ C64x+ DSPs.
  • [14:29:24] <Minou1> Hi MrDuck ;)
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  • [14:35:23] <arcanescu> Well I had a SD card with FS mounted on it... apparently something happened and now it doesnt enter "Run level 5" and mount devices.... could this be SD card corruption?
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  • [14:36:58] <av500> cboyd: and what dsp framework are you usign on dm8148 ?
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  • [14:40:43] <arti_t> hi all, i have tried to excess GPIO pins of Beagle-xm, i have inserted LED to GPIO pins and frm command line i sent high and low value, i noticed on odd number of GPIO pins, my experiment works and LED bliks, but on even number GPIO i am not able to off the LED
  • [14:41:10] <av500> that's odd
  • [14:41:14] <arti_t> can anyone tell me why i m not able to make it off
  • [14:42:14] <W1N9Zr0> did you configure the pin mux correctly?
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  • [14:43:23] <arti_t> W1N9Zr0, i saw in bb-xm reference manual for GPIO pin-mux
  • [14:43:34] <arti_t> according to it i m doing
  • [14:43:39] <cboyd> av500: I'm using DSP 674x
  • [14:45:48] <koen> cboyd: opkg install gstreamer-ti
  • [14:45:50] <arcanescu> av500: whats odd?
  • [14:46:02] <koen> cboyd: but dm3730 and dm81xx are vastly different
  • [14:46:11] <arcanescu> does sd card manufacturer matter aswell?
  • [14:46:11] <koen> (and equally unsupported in the dsp department)
  • [14:47:15] <cboyd> koen: i have to build gstreamer from scratch using openembedded.
  • [14:48:38] <riskable> OK, after rebuilding from scratch and following the adafruit instructions for the rtl8192cu USB wifi dongle it works... But I still have the 50% packet loss problem :(
  • [14:48:50] <riskable> Actually, more like 80% packet loss now
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  • [14:49:18] <aholler> good dongle
  • [14:49:29] <av500> cboyd: yes, so how are you using the 674x on the 8148?
  • [14:50:41] <cboyd> av500: I am trying to play some video using the DSP and gstreamer
  • [14:51:35] <av500> and, can you?
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  • [14:52:26] <av500> and isnt video handled by the HDVICP and not the DSP?
  • [14:52:30] <av500> on the 8148?
  • [14:52:45] <cboyd> av500: no, my video looks more like a slide show
  • [14:53:03] <aholler> hmm, I think that tusb<->msp430 rs232-connection on the launchpad is just unusable for transmitting more than a few byte in sequence... Looks like I have to use an avr instead.
  • [14:53:25] <cboyd> av500: I'm trying to watch the big buck bunny video using gst-launch playbin2
  • [14:54:07] <cboyd> av500: I thought you could also use the DSP for video
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  • [14:54:17] <av500> I guess you can
  • [14:54:23] <av500> with the right codecs
  • [14:54:52] <av500> koen: do you know that Rainer K??nig guy?
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  • [14:55:09] <arcanescu> You can use DSP for video.....
  • [14:55:11] <cboyd> av500: I just want the video to look reasonable. I will investigate HDVICP
  • [14:55:20] <arcanescu> isnt that what gstreamer TI's TIDmaiVideoSink does?
  • [14:55:30] <av500> arcanescu: we are talking dm8148
  • [14:55:43] <av500> and TIDmaiVideoSink is a sink, as the name says
  • [14:55:45] <arcanescu> i have used it on dm365
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  • [14:56:05] <arcanescu> dm6446 and dm368
  • [14:56:41] <arcanescu> yes it is a sink that renders video to a composite or component pal or ntsc....
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  • [14:56:55] <av500> even to dvi on the beagle
  • [14:57:00] <arcanescu> yup
  • [14:57:23] <av500> but I still dont get whether cboyd wants to use beagle or 8148
  • [14:57:27] <av500> or both
  • [14:58:13] <arcanescu> yes well that is what i meant when i said he could use the DSP for video render.... on the beagle... ive tested that...
  • [14:58:23] <arcanescu> you can even render on beagle using ximagesink
  • [14:58:45] <arcanescu> *xvimagesink... I tested that using wifi - udp
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  • [14:59:05] <arcanescu> that is on a beagle and not on 8148 rather 365's 6446 and 368
  • [14:59:16] <av500> you cannot use the dsp to render video, you can use it to decode video
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  • [14:59:40] <av500> and yes, that is exposed e.g. on the ti gst stuff
  • [14:59:48] <av500> which some people claim is abandonware
  • [14:59:53] <arcanescu> oh yes sorry 'decode'
  • [15:00:00] <arcanescu> I think it works well
  • [15:00:30] <arcanescu> for the TI plugin I recommend not goin witht he main branch
  • [15:00:37] <arcanescu> rather checkout this DDOMPE branch
  • [15:00:53] <arcanescu> it works like a charm.... better performance than the main branch
  • [15:01:00] <riskable> The problem with my rtl8192cu USB wifi adapter seems to be that it works fine for a moment after conman connects it to the network but shortly thereafter it stops working altogether
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  • [15:01:36] <arcanescu> av500: why abandonware?
  • [15:01:59] <av500> judging from spending quite some time in #gst-ti
  • [15:02:30] <av500> but maybe the real support is on e2e
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  • [15:03:54] <arcanescu> that is true... and i will second you on that it sucks on support
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  • [15:04:11] <arcanescu> e2e doesnt have much either.... check gst-ti forums... they are dead aswell...
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  • [15:04:33] <arcanescu> but then again most questions are reiterations of previous ones....
  • [15:04:55] <arcanescu> i was thinking of putting up a blog and putting this to rest once and for all... but I havent had the time
  • [15:09:08] <arcanescu> the only support is from RidgeRun people.... where their patches are helpful they seldom reply on emails or otherwise.... its always "dump everything pay me aload of money and use my stuff"
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  • [15:10:03] <av500> arcanescu: that is understandable
  • [15:10:06] <aholler> riskable: and dmesg doesn't say anything? maybe it will work with 3.6 when usb is fixed ;)
  • [15:10:10] <av500> ridgerun needs to earn money
  • [15:10:29] <riskable> aholler: You mean kernel 3.6? hehe
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  • [15:11:06] <arcanescu> well sure go ahead... but if someone asks a simple question and they ahve already solved it rather than providing a simple solution you cant say abadon ship and jump on mine
  • [15:11:22] <riskable> I don't get it: How does conman get wlan0 'up' at all? Every time I try to do it by hand it says "ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
  • [15:11:37] <arcanescu> its ridciulous for a simple one man consumer.... charge businesses.....
  • [15:11:48] <arcanescu> they quoted me 100000$ for support
  • [15:13:16] <av500> arcanescu: that is understandable
  • [15:13:46] <av500> though 100k is excessive
  • [15:13:58] <av500> we didnt pay that much in the past
  • [15:14:10] <arcanescu> are you guys using it aswell?
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  • [15:14:16] <av500> no
  • [15:14:32] <av500> but we did video decode on omap3
  • [15:14:39] <av500> not via gst and RR
  • [15:14:44] <av500> but others
  • [15:15:24] <arcanescu> hmmm....
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  • [15:15:45] <abw_> Hi! Is it OK to ask a noob question here?
  • [15:15:57] <av500> depends
  • [15:16:03] <arcanescu> no we only talk clever stuff here
  • [15:16:07] <arcanescu> liek quantum cryptography
  • [15:16:15] <av500> and rocket surgery
  • [15:16:16] <arcanescu> and particle entaglement
  • [15:16:28] <abw_> rocket surgery?
  • [15:16:30] <koen> av500: rainer works for fujitsu and has a 814x product
  • [15:16:35] <arcanescu> our jokes are also about nuetrinos
  • [15:16:43] <av500> and oldtrinos
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  • [15:16:49] <arcanescu> well yes that too
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  • [15:17:06] <abw_> I would like to update my beaglebone ubuntu 12.04 kernel because of sound issues (external usb speakers). I'm currently using the 3.2.0-psp1 Robert Nelson kernel. Are there any newer pre-compiled kernels available for download or should I compile them myself?
  • [15:17:10] <av500> koen: 8148 i figured
  • [15:17:42] <dpdonny> Why does the BeagleBone U-Boot config (am335x_evm) build with the ti81xx SoC and not OMAP3?
  • [15:17:54] <aholler> abw_: usb is broken in kernels >=3.3
  • [15:18:03] <aholler> (on omap)
  • [15:18:27] <av500> dpdonny: because the bone is not an omap3
  • [15:18:52] <av500> and ti silicon naming is crazy
  • [15:19:15] <abw_> I've read something about v3.2.16-x11
  • [15:19:17] <arcanescu> what goes through their mind when they name it?
  • [15:19:19] <ogra_> yeah, they should ask mark shuttleworth about it
  • [15:19:58] <av500> arcanescu: acid
  • [15:20:06] <aholler> 0map
  • [15:20:22] <av500> yes, they smoke finely ground omap1 chips...
  • [15:20:23] <arcanescu> what does that even mean
  • [15:20:39] <arcanescu> omap
  • [15:22:15] <abw_> I'm not even sure if updating the kernel would help, its just a wild guess???
  • [15:22:33] <abw_> the sound at the moment is choppy and stuttering
  • [15:22:49] <dpdonny> thanks av500....the beagleboard is built with OMAP3....do the beagleboard and beaglebone use different CPUs?
  • [15:22:59] <av500> yes
  • [15:23:05] <av500> omap3 vs am335x
  • [15:23:37] <dpdonny> thanks for clearing up my confusion...i thought OMAP was the platform the am335x was built on...my misunderstanding...thanks again
  • [15:23:51] <av500> OMAP is a label that TI slaps on stuff
  • [15:24:04] <av500> like all the other labels they slap on stuff
  • [15:24:15] <dpdonny> is TI8XX similarly used as a label like OMAP?
  • [15:24:48] <av500> no
  • [15:25:05] <av500> it's ... complicated
  • [15:25:51] <dpdonny> OK, so the Ti8XX SOC used to build beaglebone and am335x EVM is similar to some other TI8XX EVM?
  • [15:26:10] <av500> the bone uses an am335x SoC
  • [15:26:15] <koen> there is no beagle with 81xx
  • [15:26:20] <koen> thank $deity for that
  • [15:26:28] <av500> which in architecture is similar to the Ti8XX stuff
  • [15:26:36] <dpdonny> i understand that, but from a U-Boot build configuration it uses the TI8XX SoC
  • [15:26:47] <dpdonny> that makes sense av500
  • [15:26:47] <av500> [17:26:28] <av500> which in architecture is similar to the Ti8XX stuff
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  • [15:27:23] <koen> am33xx is more similar to omap4 than to 81xx
  • [15:27:45] <dpdonny> i'm porting U-Boot and Linux to a custom platform that is very similar to beaglebone so i am choosing the most comparable SOC from a build perspective
  • [15:27:58] <koen> TI claims it's similar so the people who added am33xx support to the 81xx code don't look like they've wasted their time
  • [15:28:39] <arcanescu> av500: you worked for TI?
  • [15:28:46] <av500> arcanescu: heavens, no
  • [15:29:05] <arcanescu> okay I just thought :p
  • [15:29:16] <angs> what is the meaning [ 454.353778] here yada.net/products/beaglebone/wifi.html after the "root@beaglebone:~# systemctl restart connman.service"
  • [15:29:19] <av500> koen did
  • [15:29:41] <arcanescu> he enjoyed it so much he left?
  • [15:29:46] <av500> yes
  • [15:30:07] <av500> he was tired explaining part numbers
  • [15:30:20] <dpdonny> @koen: would you recommend building & configuring the am335x using the omap4 SoC instead of TI8XX SoC?
  • [15:30:26] <av500> no
  • [15:30:34] <koen> use the AM335x one
  • [15:30:35] <arcanescu> hahah :]
  • [15:32:00] <dpdonny> thats what i'm doing ... the am335x_evm board config uses TI8xx SOC...I'll just modify the Ti8XX code (need to boot from NOR)
  • [15:32:12] <f11f12> ls
  • [15:32:21] <dpdonny> just wanted to make sure i was no the right path
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  • [15:33:45] <koen> dpdonny: 17:27 < koen> TI claims it's similar so the people who added am33xx support to the 81xx code don't look like they've wasted their time
  • [15:34:13] <koen> dpdonny: so yes, it selects some 81xx option, but only because the engineers were lazy
  • [15:34:28] <koen> just look at the code
  • [15:34:36] <koen> if (omap3) do something
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  • [15:34:53] <dpdonny> thats exactly what i figured...(lazy engineers), but need to make descion for my BSP (ti8xx or something else)
  • [15:35:05] <koen> if (81xx) do { if (am335x) {do foo} else do bar }
  • [15:35:16] <dpdonny> yuck~
  • [15:35:18] <koen> dpdonny: there is no decision to make
  • [15:35:22] <av500> dpdonny: basically TI has a large pool oF IP blocks that they slap together in random ways to make SoCs
  • [15:35:31] <koen> dpdonny: there is only one set of code for uboot and one set of code for the kernel
  • [15:35:39] <av500> and then assign random names
  • [15:35:41] <dpdonny> so stick with ti8xx and modify it as needed
  • [15:36:24] <koen> dpdonny: get the am335x 'sdk' from ti and use that
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  • [15:36:34] <koen> that has am335x code for uboot and the kernel
  • [15:36:53] <riskable> Are there any well-known-to-work-well USB wifi dongles?
  • [15:36:57] <riskable> ...for the Beaglebone
  • [15:37:14] <riskable> This one only cost me $7 so I'm willing to write it off as just a POS :)
  • [15:37:48] <dpdonny> i have the sdk....already have u-boot and kernel booting the beaglebone without using the SDK...dont want to be tied to an SDK.
  • [15:38:02] <scromp> adafruit is selling a teensy little one they say works: https://www.adafruit.com/products/814
  • [15:38:10] <riskable> scromp: That's the same one I have :(
  • [15:38:19] <riskable> It works for a time but then stops working altogether
  • [15:38:19] <scromp> no good?
  • [15:38:22] <scromp> doh
  • [15:38:26] <riskable> Very unreliable
  • [15:38:33] <riskable> ...and yes, I'm on 5V power
  • [15:39:18] <dpdonny> thanks for the info koen & av500! very helpful...
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  • [15:44:48] <aholler> riskable: try limiting the traffic through iptables
  • [15:45:07] <aholler> or tc
  • [15:45:24] <dpdonny_> @koen: the SDK uses Ti8XX as well
  • [15:45:31] <riskable> aholler: Why? That would just artificially limit the speed. What would be useful to me is if I could limit the bitrate that it tries to maintain on the RF
  • [15:45:53] <riskable> aholler: For example, if I could force it to use 802.11b it might be more reliable.
  • [15:46:09] <koen> riskable: use the 'iw' tool
  • [15:46:15] <aholler> then try that
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  • [15:46:16] <riskable> iw gives me errors
  • [15:46:27] <riskable> I also installed wireless-tools and those give me errors too
  • [15:46:42] <aholler> limiting the usb-traffic might help
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  • [15:47:01] <riskable> I mean "iw wlan0 set bitrates legacy-2.4 12 18 24" works without errors but it doesn't do anything. It still shows as 150Mbs
  • [15:48:34] <aholler> iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M
  • [15:49:43] <aholler> or maybe your psu just hasn't enough power.
  • [15:50:49] <aholler> some wifi-dongles are in need for a lot of power (up to 500mA).
  • [15:51:23] <riskable> My PSU is 5v 2000mA
  • [15:51:51] <riskable> This doesn't seem to do anything at all"iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M"
  • [15:54:05] <educa> riskable, is that with the adafruit usb wifi dongle ?
  • [15:54:18] <educa> I'm also looking to buy such one to make my BB wireless
  • [15:54:25] <riskable> educa: Same chip, not the actual one from Adafruit
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  • [15:57:55] <Sh0rtWave> I swear, I think there's something either to do with serial levels or something
  • [15:58:16] <Sh0rtWave> I hit enter, and I see it responding to the traffic, but it responds with garbage
  • [15:58:24] <Sh0rtWave> autoboot seems to be working tho
  • [15:59:22] <Sh0rtWave> Ooh
  • [15:59:32] <Sh0rtWave> I wonder if it's got to do with a floating ground...
  • [15:59:35] <arcanescu> riskable: do you have any other wifi systems running in the vicinity?
  • [16:00:11] <aholler> no gnd isn't a good idea when using a serial
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  • [16:01:16] <aholler> use at least 3 cables, not 2
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  • [16:04:09] <f11f12> u-boot on the am335x beagle bone lists i2c devices on all i2c addresses when I do "i2c probe". Is this a known "feature"?
  • [16:05:48] <stuk_gen> is there a problem with the netbase_4.47 package? i'm build a system-gnome-image but i get error ERROR: Function failed: Fetcher failure for URL: 'ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/netbase/netbase_4.47.tar.gz'. Checksum mismatch!
  • [16:06:59] <riskable> arcanescu: Yeah, loads... But the 'vicinity' problem isn't a problem. I tried using this USB dongle out by its lonesome about five feet from the AP
  • [16:07:13] <riskable> Still had the "complete disconnect after a minute or so" problem
  • [16:07:18] <jay6981> they probably changed the tarball but didn't update the version number
  • [16:07:29] <jay6981> or it got hacked
  • [16:07:42] <arcanescu> riskable: hmmm i known to have RF interference cause this problem and packet losses.
  • [16:07:48] <riskable> BTW: I got it to drop to 802.11b but it still has the same problem.
  • [16:07:58] <arcanescu> even though wifi changes channel but if you have something emitting alot of power
  • [16:08:06] <arcanescu> it will conk it out anyway regardless....
  • [16:08:20] <riskable> arcanescu: The problem *starts* with packet loss but then becomes 100% loss yet if I look at the output of 'iwconfig wlan0' it still shows as connected and there's nothing in dmesg to indicate there's a problem
  • [16:08:39] <arcanescu> riskable: are you using this with your PC or the bone?
  • [16:08:40] <riskable> I'm chatting over this same wifi AP right now :)
  • [16:08:46] <riskable> arcanescu: With the bone
  • [16:08:55] <riskable> I should try it on my PC though... Good idea
  • [16:08:57] <arcanescu> try using it with your standard pc... and try a pc to pc ping
  • [16:09:21] <arcanescu> connect them toghther and send ping.... to see if there is some driver issue
  • [16:10:18] <arcanescu> if the problem still presists maybe the unit is at fault ... maybe manufacturing fault
  • [16:10:20] <stuk_gen> found the problem is this:http://osdir.com/ml/beagleboard/2012-05/msg01056.html
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  • [16:12:32] <Sh0rtWave> Hrm, I think I do have a floating ground problem
  • [16:12:43] <Sh0rtWave> I'm noticing that my USB->Serial eventually stops being able to tx data.
  • [16:12:55] <riskable> Hmm... Seem to be having problems with the USB wifi dongle in Ubuntu too
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  • [16:13:03] <Sh0rtWave> that is, the TX led on it stops flashing even when I'm sending data and I know it works.
  • [16:14:01] <arcanescu> riskable: time for a new unit :)
  • [16:14:13] <riskable> arcanescu: Yeah, probably. Not done testing though
  • [16:14:15] <arcanescu> it cost how much?
  • [16:14:19] <riskable> $7
  • [16:14:20] <riskable> hehe
  • [16:14:34] <arcanescu> :) its only fair to get a new one
  • [16:14:53] <riskable> That's why I was asking
  • [16:14:54] <arcanescu> does it show the same packetloss problem?
  • [16:14:59] <riskable> No, this is different
  • [16:15:05] <riskable> Won't associate with my AP
  • [16:15:22] <arcanescu> does it see it though? .... and the signal strength?
  • [16:15:45] <riskable> arcanescu: Doesn't see anything, really
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  • [16:16:07] <arcanescu> hmmmm
  • [16:16:48] <riskable> OK, it works now
  • [16:16:58] <riskable> I re-plugged it and let Network Manager deal with it this time
  • [16:16:59] <arcanescu> no packet drop?
  • [16:17:07] <riskable> I thought that might be the problem (NetworkManager)
  • [16:17:14] <riskable> Testing packet drop now...
  • [16:17:20] <arcanescu> Ok
  • [16:17:25] <riskable> 38 packets transmitted, 38 packets received, 0% packet loss
  • [16:17:40] <riskable> So the problem is on the 'bone :(
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  • [16:18:22] <arcanescu> keep it going
  • [16:18:32] <arcanescu> for over a min where you mentioned it crashed
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  • [16:20:11] <arcanescu> now if it doesnt crash look at iwconfig settings that the NetworkManager has done. Then try to replicate them on the Bone
  • [16:20:28] <riskable> Well, it ran fine for over a minute so I stopped. Then I let it sit for a while unused. Now when I'm trying to use it it won't send packets. So maybe the problem is with the sleep/power save
  • [16:20:48] <arcanescu> hmmmm
  • [16:21:03] <arcanescu> try the same test with bone.... unplug/plug send packets
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  • [16:21:27] <riskable> Could be my router too... I'm getting strange errors there
  • [16:21:40] <riskable> ath: Failed to stop TX DMA in 100 msec after killing last frame
  • [16:21:54] <arcanescu> hmmmm....
  • [16:21:55] <riskable> That's what my router says after I start using this dongle... Doesn't normally say that
  • [16:22:39] <riskable> After doing *nothing* it just came back and started working again
  • [16:23:03] <arcanescu> dmesg | grep -i ath
  • [16:23:19] <jay6981> that's pretty damning to the hardware
  • [16:23:42] <aholler> try the newest firmware
  • [16:24:09] <riskable> Ahh, not this is interesting: If I ping the IP assigned to the dongle from the router it goes fine--seemingly indefinitely. However, if I try to ping the router from the dongle it will go for a bit then stop working altogether
  • [16:24:16] <riskable> s/not/now
  • [16:25:05] <thurbad> do you have ping on the router enabled? most routers disable ping responses as a security measure by default
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  • [16:25:17] <riskable> Yeah I have ping enabled
  • [16:25:24] <arcanescu> i was just going to say that
  • [16:25:25] <riskable> I built this router myself :)
  • [16:25:30] <arcanescu> oh okay
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  • [16:25:39] <riskable> I can ping the router from the regular wifi just fine
  • [16:25:41] <arcanescu> now we know the problem :)
  • [16:25:46] <arcanescu> :P
  • [16:25:53] <arcanescu> what firmware are you using on your router?
  • [16:25:54] <riskable> I'm going to disconnect my regular wifi. I might lose IRC
  • [16:25:57] <arcanescu> open wrt?
  • [16:26:01] <riskable> Whatever comes with Ubuntu 12.04
  • [16:26:10] <arcanescu> hmmm
  • [16:26:12] <riskable> ...and whatever is in the Angstrom build (latest)
  • [16:26:24] <riskable> I believe they're the same. Let me double-check though
  • [16:26:29] <arcanescu> im not sure what angstrom has
  • [16:27:00] <riskable> yeah they're the same
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  • [16:27:16] <arcanescu> connect up the module to bone
  • [16:27:19] <arcanescu> and ping from router
  • [16:27:26] <arcanescu> see if it goes indefinate
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  • [16:31:03] <arcanescu> ath: Failed to stop TX DMA in 100 msec after killing last frame > is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/736171
  • [16:32:25] <riskable> My router isn't running Ubuntu
  • [16:32:31] <riskable> It's running OpenWRT
  • [16:34:35] <arcanescu> https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/8446 still known problem
  • [16:35:09] <riskable> When connected to the 'bone, pinging from the router to the 'bone has the packet loss issue
  • [16:35:51] <riskable> Though reading that, I'm going to update my OpenWRT image. I haven't updated it in over a year :)
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  • [16:36:48] <arcanescu> :) it might fix it
  • [16:39:47] <riskable> I hope so
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  • [17:35:46] <angs> I follow the instruction here http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/wifi.html all goes fine however, after executing "root@beaglebone:~# systemctl restart connman.service" the bone doesnot connect to the access point, there is no net_addr for wlan0 interface
  • [17:36:00] <angs> how should I proceed?
  • [17:36:24] <riskable> angs: You using my image?
  • [17:36:49] <riskable> ..or default?
  • [17:36:54] <angs> no I tried first koen's image that he gave
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  • [17:36:59] <riskable> OK, then just reboot
  • [17:37:00] * mranostay pokes _troll_
  • [17:37:06] <riskable> Mine didn't work until I rebooted that first time
  • [17:37:12] <riskable> Actually, I might have had to power off and on
  • [17:37:15] <angs> 2012.05.24.img.xz
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  • [17:37:52] <angs> rebooting
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  • [17:40:03] <riskable> It also takes like 10-30 seconds after you can login before it will associate with your AP and get an address
  • [17:40:10] <angs> it doesn't work, I dont see any problem on dmesg http://pastebin.com/KSSbcNAS
  • [17:40:23] <riskable> Did you load the firmware package?
  • [17:40:29] <angs> yes
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  • [17:41:17] <angs> I did exactly what is written on that page
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  • [17:41:26] <riskable> That looks like a good dmesg
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  • [17:41:53] <riskable> Does your dongle have a light on it?
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  • [17:42:04] <angs> it has a constant green light
  • [17:42:15] <riskable> That means it is powered on and at least sort of working :)
  • [17:42:24] <angs> good news :)
  • [17:42:48] <riskable> Paste your conman settings and wifi.config
  • [17:42:51] <angs> once I did ifconfig wlan0 up, then it stucked whenever I type ifconfig. now I am using another SD card
  • [17:43:04] <riskable> Yeah, I had that problem a few times
  • [17:43:09] <riskable> The power off/on fixes that one
  • [17:44:07] <riskable> If you don't use conman you'll get odd rfkill problems
  • [17:44:30] <angs> var/lib/connman/wifi.config > http://pastebin.com/3Nk41SgR
  • [17:45:11] <angs> n
  • [17:46:04] <angs> settings > http://pastebin.com/wpJGW4xK
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  • [17:48:15] <angs> I was fine till "systemctl restart connman.service", then the bone has not get any IP address after the restart
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  • [17:53:16] <angs> it also stuck when I type "opkg install wireless-tools"
  • [17:55:09] <riskable> All your settings look good
  • [17:55:27] <riskable> If you reboot you shouldn't have to restart conman... It should come up at boot
  • [17:55:47] <riskable> I'm going to be disconnecting for a few min
  • [17:55:51] <riskable> Be back in a bit
  • [17:55:56] <angs> ok
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  • [18:16:54] <koen> angs: wireless-tools is deprecated, use iw
  • [18:17:30] <koen> which is why iw is included by default and iw isn't
  • [18:18:36] <_av500_> koen: iw is and is not duality?
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  • [18:21:25] <ogra_> to iw or to not iw, thats the hamlet
  • [18:21:36] * mranostay waves to _av500_
  • [18:23:09] <_av500_> ogra_: to con a man into connmann
  • [18:23:54] <ogra_> haha
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  • [18:27:09] <angs> is there any bug? when I type ifconfig it stucks
  • [18:27:41] <mranostay> angs: spray some WD-40 on it
  • [18:28:38] <angs> :)
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  • [18:52:14] <djlewis> angs: then if it gets too unstuck, put some duct tape on it.
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  • [21:09:02] <Petar> hello
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  • [21:09:31] <Guest84600> o jave question aabout kernel build for beagleboard
  • [21:10:54] <Guest84600> i downloaded stable-kernel i i runned script ./build_kernel.sh
  • [21:11:34] <Guest84600> now it is over, how to deploy it on SD now ?
  • [21:15:51] <Guest84600> any1 alive ?
  • [21:16:19] <serekson> look in the tools folder
  • [21:16:20] <djlewis> only the dead living here ....
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  • [21:17:40] <Guest84600> yes, i tried install_image.sh, but it keeps saying that i need to run vuild_kernel.sh first
  • [21:18:03] <Guest84600> *build_kernel.sh
  • [21:18:30] <serekson> did it have an error?
  • [21:18:39] <Guest84600> nope
  • [21:19:12] <Guest84600> build_kernel.sh did not have error
  • [21:20:08] <serekson> does KERNEL/arch/arm/boot/zImage exist?
  • [21:20:41] <Guest84600> yes
  • [21:21:11] <Guest84600> shall i try install from that folder ?
  • [21:21:12] <serekson> well, that error in the script means that it wasn't found
  • [21:22:08] <Guest84600> there is install script in the folder KERNEL/arch/arm/boot/zImage
  • [21:22:38] <serekson> I would read it first
  • [21:22:39] <Guest84600> there is install script in the folder KERNEL/arch/arm/boot/ sorry
  • [21:23:43] <Guest84600> yes, i ddont think it would be useful
  • [21:24:30] <Guest84600> how to correct path in install_image in stable-kernel/tools
  • [21:26:18] <serekson> its might be a permissions thing
  • [21:26:22] <serekson> since you said the file was there
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  • [21:36:04] <Guest84600> i tried with sudo to run the script, but again same error
  • [21:36:20] <Guest84600> Using: Cross Compiler ERROR: Please run build_kernel.sh before running this script...
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  • [22:11:52] <riskable> I am happy to report that after updating my ath9k-based OpenWRT to a newer ROM my rtl8192cu-based USB wifi adapter is working much better
  • [22:12:12] <riskable> Still getting 50% packet loss but at least it stays connected and usable the whole time :)
  • [22:13:27] <KeatonT> 50% packet loss
  • [22:13:28] <KeatonT> !
  • [22:13:30] <KeatonT> that's insane
  • [22:13:32] <raymohi> Owww
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  • [22:14:06] <raymohi> Most I ever see even at 400+ feet is 10%
  • [22:16:28] <KeatonT> yea
  • [22:17:54] <Russ> you have noise?
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  • [22:55:21] <jtr001-UCSD> Hello all, I am currently trying to use the beaglebone to create an oscilloscope spectrum analyzer. I want to be able to convert the analog singal into a digital signal, display the signal and the FFT of the signal. My first approach was to put matplotlib and wxPython on the board to help with the GUI. However, I am finding this very difficult, does anyone have a suggestion as to how I should go about this?
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  • [23:13:59] <riskable> For reference, the packet loss is caused by the driver
  • [23:14:06] <riskable> ...not due to interference or anything like that
  • [23:14:11] <riskable> Also, the card is a POS
  • [23:14:28] <riskable> Wait, not a "card"... It's a USB dongle the size of a fingernail
  • [23:14:36] <riskable> You get what you pay for... $7 in this instance
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  • [23:24:42] <thurbad> if it's a micro sized dongle, what does it do for an antenna?
  • [23:25:23] <KeatonT> thurbad the circuit is actually in the part of the usb that goes into the slot.
  • [23:25:32] <KeatonT> The part that sticks out is the antenna
  • [23:26:05] <thurbad> crazy talk!
  • [23:26:40] <mdp> fix it in s/w
  • [23:26:52] <thurbad> heh
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