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  • [00:09:00] <borillion> are you supposed to get an orange color on boot?
  • [00:09:06] <borillion> on the lcd?
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  • [00:25:40] <Jack5> I am trying to compile and run the linux kernel on the beagleboard. So far I have used the angstrom arm toolchain to obtain the zImage. Now when I replace the old uImage on my sd card I get this (http://pastebin.com/VdMXw05e) error. Can someone help please?
  • [00:36:39] <jay6981> Jack5: see line 33. you need to make a uImage, not a zImage.
  • [00:43:52] <Jack5> jay6981: thanks for your comment. IWill my uImage work with the existing MLO and uboot?
  • [00:49:11] <thurbad> it should
  • [00:53:22] <Jack5> thnaks.
  • [00:53:47] <Jack5> and is it possible to convert a zImage file to an uImage?
  • [00:55:02] <mranostay> just rename it
  • [00:55:28] <mranostay> why not do 'make uImage'?
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  • [01:00:44] <Jack5> mranostay: When I used autotools to compile the linux kernel it generated the zImage automatically. probably thats the default?
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  • [01:02:47] <Jack5> will try renaming it
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  • [01:10:04] <Jack5> mranostay: renaming zImage to uImage does not work. It still gives the same error.
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  • [01:40:27] <emeb> zImage != uImage.
  • [01:42:30] <emeb> uImage has additional stuff on it - that's why the u-boot mkimage utility is needed.
  • [01:42:35] <mranostay> emeb: yeah seems my trolling was taken for advice :)
  • [01:42:50] <emeb> heh
  • [01:43:04] <emeb> my troll detector needs to be recalibrated.
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  • [01:43:54] <mranostay> i think _av500_ is the tare weight
  • [01:44:17] <emeb> lol
  • [01:50:01] <Mojito> Is there any progress on 'critical issue' ARM_MPU.KERNEL.39 (unreliable USB DMA) affecting AM335x?
  • [01:51:07] <Mojito> Is it a fault in the chip design?\
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  • [02:17:26] <Jack5> emeb: Thanks.
  • [02:17:39] <Jack5> Can someone explain what "[ 77.548431] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" means?
  • [02:27:25] <Jack5> This problem goes away when i actually plug in a monitor, maybe the boot script needs an actual display to start.
  • [02:27:43] <mranostay> heh no it shouldn't
  • [02:29:27] <Jack5> hmm maybe its one of those strange things :)
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  • [03:25:53] <huosen> git clone http://git.shr-project.org/repo/meta-smartphone.git/ You don't have permission...
  • [03:25:55] <huosen> is that just me?
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  • [05:11:35] <hitlin37> good morning all
  • [05:17:56] <_sundar_> gm
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  • [05:43:49] <_av500_> gm
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  • [10:12:32] <_sundar_> good afternoon
  • [10:15:01] <kvarley> _sundar_: Hi
  • [10:15:30] <kvarley> If a boot.scr is in the root of the first partition on my microSD card do I have to hold the USER button while booting for it to load it?
  • [10:15:55] <_sundar_> i do not think so. the bootloader will load it automatically
  • [10:16:42] <_sundar_> i guess if it is named as user.scr or something, then you'd have to hold the user button to load it
  • [10:17:25] <kvarley> _sundar_: Ok thanks
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  • [10:20:59] <aholler> boot.scr is only for old versions of u-boot and is replaced by uEnv.txt
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  • [10:25:00] <_sundar_> aholler, uEnv.txt is editable by hand? or still we need the mkimage utility?
  • [10:25:20] <kvarley> uEnv.txt is plaintext
  • [10:25:25] <kvarley> Can be edited by hand yes
  • [10:26:02] <kvarley> The image I am using from AlwaysInnovating uses an old uBoot. I was attempting to get it to work with the old uBoot first rather than overhauling things which may break stuff
  • [10:27:30] <_sundar_> instead of bootcmd, uenvcmd will be run it seems
  • [10:27:57] <_sundar_> if that doesn't exist, default bootcmd will be run
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  • [11:14:44] <aholler> 9?? :(
  • [11:17:03] <_sundar_> - or + :)
  • [11:17:27] <aholler> at least + (C)
  • [11:17:45] <_sundar_> thats still cold
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  • [12:03:36] <koen> mdp, mranostay: new branch: https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/commits/linux-ti33x-psp-3.2-r9a+gitr09e9651bcf2ee8d86685f2a8075bc6557b1d3b91
  • [12:04:07] <aholler> still 3.2 ;)
  • [12:06:35] <koen> yes, that's bleeding edge for TI
  • [12:07:34] <aholler> for 3.3 I could cite rmk ;)
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  • [12:11:33] <prpplague> koen: can i put that pic up on my presentation page?
  • [12:11:40] * koen has the 3.5" lcd working after using a backchannel to learn that display pll != pixclock
  • [12:11:44] <koen> it's 2x pixclock....
  • [12:11:49] <koen> prpplague: you sure can!
  • [12:13:00] <prpplague> koen: dandy
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  • [12:16:20] <prpplague> koen: http://elinux.org/BoardBringupLCD
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  • [12:20:08] <aholler> hmm, das_oszi sounds good
  • [12:21:57] <prpplague> aholler: made a ton of progress over the weekend
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  • [12:22:51] <aholler> I should have seen this on saturday ;)
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  • [12:24:04] <prpplague> aholler: oh? did you buy a new scope? hehe
  • [12:24:22] <aholler> no, i still don't have one
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  • [12:25:12] <aholler> only stuff around 30a old ;)
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  • [12:26:46] <aholler> maybe I go out tomorrow an buy me one of those at the conrad around the corner here
  • [12:30:13] <prpplague> aholler: just fyi, it is still a long ways off from having a full replacement from source
  • [12:30:37] <aholler> looks like they have 2 available in the store.
  • [12:31:17] <aholler> prpplague: source isn't necessary, but a 200mhz-scope for 299??? sounds good
  • [12:31:22] <kvarley> I'm using the boot.scr from this location (http://labs.igep.es/index.php/How_to_get_the_Android_distribution) called boot-dvi.scr. I am moving the file to the boot partition and then renaming it to boot.scr and then doing "sync" but it's not working. Any ideas? I do not have a serial cable to hand.
  • [12:31:48] <prpplague> aholler: :)
  • [12:33:20] <aholler> so I could talk with the bleeding edge analog-hw-devs afterwards ;)
  • [12:33:32] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [12:45:40] <_av500_> kvarley: get a serial cable
  • [12:46:11] <_av500_> or use the led and learn morse code
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  • [13:01:41] <Haikarainen> I'd go for morse, way easier
  • [13:06:51] <prpplague> ascii in binary is much more robust
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  • [13:08:11] <mdp> koen, hrm, I see. didn't get to finish the conversation on g+..I'll continue there :)
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  • [13:09:01] <Haikarainen> yes, yes. I should make a communications device, consisting of a led, a long tube, and a lightsensor. It will only support ascii in binary. I shall call it.. fibre!
  • [13:09:16] <Haikarainen> its french for fubblez
  • [13:09:33] <Haikarainen> which have no relation to this subject whatsoever
  • [13:11:05] <mdp> koen, I *think* hvaibhav was planning to do something newer with a branch in his repo, but I have trouble understanding mostly
  • [13:11:35] <Haikarainen> ppl actually use g+ btw? where can I find those pplz?
  • [13:17:07] <prpplague^2> koen: thanks for the pic and post, made my week, hehe
  • [13:18:18] <mdp> hi prpplague^2, your reminder is noted???working back through it to doc on elinux
  • [13:19:00] <prpplague^2> koen: man the OMAP8 case looks awesome - https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2EmbIazg_g4/TwE11K6jAcI/AAAAAAAAL5Y/AgAZm1kr7OE/s667/cases15.jpg
  • [13:19:03] <mdp> Haikarainen: go find Boris Houndleroy..even canines are on g+
  • [13:19:05] <prpplague^2> mdp: :)
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  • [13:32:41] <koen> mdp: I was suprised to see that even mmc is broken in the hvaibhav kernel :(
  • [13:33:05] <koen> mdp: so I deciced to watch the hunger games in the cinema instead
  • [13:34:19] * koen is reading up on fritzing
  • [13:41:55] <mdp> koen, did you like it?
  • [13:42:37] <mdp> I was pretty pleased with the screen adaptation
  • [13:43:34] <mdp> koen, your reports of the state of that kernel made me move my projects to yours, of course
  • [13:47:17] <koen> the movie was nice
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  • [13:58:37] <mdp> koen, but???but???it's a movie "about children killing children!!!" :)
  • [13:58:39] <mdp> hehe
  • [14:01:29] <thurbad> very well done though
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  • [14:06:54] <mdp> yeah, my kids are well on their way to being book->movie nitpickers???"they changed this! they changed that!"
  • [14:07:14] <mdp> I said, "set your expectations low..and have them exceeded"
  • [14:07:26] <mdp> this is my philosophy on approaching the work day too..it's effective
  • [14:07:45] <koen> I did that as well
  • [14:07:54] <koen> and then I discovered that even mmc was missing
  • [14:08:06] <mdp> lol
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  • [14:22:47] <mranostay> mdp: Hunger Games is probably an example, right? :)
  • [14:24:55] * mranostay yawns loudly
  • [14:25:24] <mdp> well, nobody goes to any movie and comes out claiming that it was 100% spot on to the books
  • [14:25:32] <mdp> or they are lying or fell asleep reading
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  • [14:26:22] <mranostay> heh hard to fit a book into a 2 hour movie. and and of course there a ton of parts that would be boring as hell in movie form
  • [14:26:26] <prpplague> hehe
  • [14:26:36] <prpplague> mdp: i went with the kids over the weekend to see hunger games
  • [14:26:54] <prpplague> mdp: when i got up to go to the latrine i noticed half a dozen people sleeping
  • [14:27:28] <mdp> lol
  • [14:27:29] <koen> only 7 more days till hbo airs GoT season 2 over here
  • [14:27:38] <mdp> prpplague: it does have the chick flick moments
  • [14:27:42] * koen has to resist the urge to talk to his swedish backup service
  • [14:28:00] <prpplague> hehe
  • [14:28:12] <mdp> prpplague: I got a kick out of how many teenage girls around hadn't read the books???based on their reactions to certain scenes
  • [14:28:19] <prpplague> koen: apparently my son has learn some more curse phrases in dutch.....
  • [14:28:31] <mdp> there's the book crowd???then the "me-too" crowd
  • [14:28:37] <prpplague> mdp: yea
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  • [14:31:24] <mranostay> mdp: heh you should have been "yeah ah don't get too attached to that guy" :)
  • [14:31:27] <mdp> prpplague: the 13 year old boys we took to opening night seemed "quite pleased" with the choice of actress for Katniss
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  • [14:32:44] <prpplague> mdp: hehe
  • [14:33:41] <koen> mdp: "That's a nice guy" "No, he gets other people killed"
  • [14:33:53] <mdp> hehe
  • [14:34:25] <mranostay> mdp: has there been blood in the streets yet? :)
  • [14:34:43] <mdp> koen, I came to discover GoT had value a bit late???just starting season 1 myself
  • [14:35:08] <mdp> koen, had me hooked at the end of S01E01 :)
  • [14:35:44] <mdp> mranostay, soon???I can assure you that if the school shooting here happened after the movie came out???HG would be blamed
  • [14:38:22] <Crofton> Hunger Games was silly
  • [14:38:35] <Crofton> I saw "The Raid: Redemption" this weekend
  • [14:38:39] <koen> mdp: the oakland shooting was a bit creepy, it happened s a few hours after I passed through it
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  • [14:39:26] <koen> Crofton: my girlfriend confiscated the mentor graphics screwdriver/torch
  • [14:39:54] <koen> *sigh*
  • [14:39:58] <prpplague> doh
  • [14:40:03] <koen> bootup error that only happens with 'quiet' in bootargs
  • [14:40:24] <Crofton> that is why I have several
  • [14:41:03] <Crofton> in America, we start to worry is there hasn't been some form of shooting recently
  • [14:41:04] <mranostay> koen: torch?
  • [14:41:10] <Crofton> flashlight
  • [14:41:34] <Crofton> koen spent too much time in the UK over the past few years
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  • [14:42:55] <prpplague> wmat: wonder if TimB's is on the chopping block with this mornings announcements from Sony
  • [14:45:10] <wmat> prpplague: I didn't see the announcement yet. I assume Sony is cutting staff?
  • [14:45:23] <prpplague> wmat: 10k from their TV divisions
  • [14:45:56] <wmat> wow
  • [14:46:38] <prpplague> http://venturebeat.com/2012/04/09/sony-10k-layoffs/
  • [14:46:40] <wmat> prpplague: I suspect Tim B. would step right into something new if that were the case. He's a smart dude.
  • [14:46:47] <prpplague> wmat: yea
  • [14:47:13] <aholler> selfmade probles at sony. because of the drm-foo their tv's are crippled
  • [14:49:51] <aholler> e.g. some of them don't play videos fro the net but from a connected camera and similiar stupid things
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  • [15:01:59] <elyezer> Hi, I have a bone and would like to know why not its python doesn't have the distutils packages
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  • [15:05:38] <elyezer> I found the package in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=python-distutils
  • [15:05:41] <elyezer> thank you
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  • [15:31:04] * mdp notes that HR is watching :)
  • [15:31:08] <mranostay> ah right :)
  • [15:31:17] <mranostay> b*tch? :)
  • [15:31:23] * mdp gasps
  • [15:31:27] * mranostay notes he doesn't work for TI so he can be crude :)
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  • [15:40:39] <thurbad> :(
  • [15:42:43] <thurbad> and it was still an older version of X server than what I need anyway
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  • [15:55:48] <Haikarainen> X11 is so 1993, everyone knows postits is the way to go!
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  • [16:04:16] <thurbad> :/
  • [16:05:56] <thurbad> can fat32 even address 1TB?
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  • [16:12:48] <aholler> maybe exfat
  • [16:13:25] <kvarley> If I reformat a partition and then copy MLO to it - will that still work?
  • [16:13:38] <kvarley> Or does it have to be on the creation of a partition from empty blocks?
  • [16:13:50] <aholler> yes, no
  • [16:14:00] <kvarley> aholler: Thank you muchly
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  • [16:22:43] <Russ> aholler, http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg168340.html
  • [16:24:37] <aholler> Russ: ah, thanks. I saw that patch in a series of 3.4-fixes too, but haven't tried it.
  • [16:24:44] <aholler> will do that now
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  • [16:34:12] <Russ> aholler, I verified it works on next and master
  • [16:36:10] <aholler> so it was the muxing ;)
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  • [17:26:20] <djlewis> dm8tbr: yes, i just didnt know if it was required as well.
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  • [17:32:06] <aholler> hmpf, that patch is broken
  • [17:32:55] <aholler> someone should tell him that 80-char-line-breaks in patches aren't that good
  • [17:37:47] <Russ> aholler, I did
  • [17:37:54] <Russ> aholler, its easy to fixup thogh
  • [17:37:56] <Russ> er, though
  • [17:38:30] <Russ> http://pastebin.com/0qFxwtq2
  • [17:39:51] <aholler> already done, compiling
  • [17:41:16] <aholler> anyway, thanks
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  • [17:51:53] <aholler> Russ: and I wonder how this works when default_omap_uart_pads is on the stack
  • [17:52:19] <aholler> might explain some other behaviours at startup
  • [17:53:39] <djlewis> not a good sign when the same Vista license key I pull off a clients laptop happens to be all over the web :)
  • [17:54:01] <djlewis> software pull from hd
  • [17:58:29] <Russ> aholler, I noted that too
  • [17:58:41] <Russ> aholler, before the patch, it was static data
  • [17:58:43] <aholler> therefor I've seen it ;)
  • [17:59:36] <aholler> I've just added a static in front.
  • [17:59:37] <Russ> hmmm...perhaps some smsc95xx under next even with the patch
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  • [18:15:29] <prpplague> wmat: pages are looking good
  • [18:16:55] <wmat> prpplague: getting there
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  • [18:17:26] <prpplague> wmat: the main question that keeps getting asked is how to make a new machine .cfg
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  • [18:17:56] <wmat> prpplague: I find that surprising, given that one can simply start by copying a current cfg file.
  • [18:18:06] <wmat> prpplague: but I'll write it up anyway
  • [18:18:27] <prpplague> wmat: yea, i think i've already forward about 7 or 8 people asking the same question
  • [18:19:59] <prpplague> wmat: with all the patents stuff going on lately, and the movie hunger games being out, maybe we should have each of the big companies send reps to have "embedded games", winner gets to keep all the patents
  • [18:21:05] <wmat> heh
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  • [18:42:38] <awozniak> anyone using the DSP know what the correct value for mem= kernel command line parameter is? I'm finding some references saying 99M@.... and others saying 80M@...
  • [18:43:59] <koen> depends on the memory map of your app
  • [18:44:12] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  • [18:44:27] <djlewis> and a bottle o ...
  • [18:45:54] <wmat> awozniak: I don't believe there is a "correct" value. Try each and see which works best.
  • [18:47:18] <awozniak> koen wmat: I'm not super familiar with dsplink. I know I'm using gstreamer filters that use the DSP, but I'm not aware of anything I can set, nor am I aware of whether or not the hole location gets passed into dsplink. Is there a document that covers all this?
  • [18:47:53] <_av500_> awozniak: google "dsplink memory map"
  • [18:48:33] <_av500_> awozniak: also check loadmodules.sh
  • [18:49:13] <wmat> awozniak: http://bit.ly/HvaiQz
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  • [18:52:02] <Russ> ah, nm, my dhcp ran out of leases due to the random hwaddr of the xm
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  • [18:55:37] <TE52> Can anyone help? I want to install the Angstrom-Demo. After I format the memory and copy the files, I run the board, and appears the Angstrom logo on the screen next to a working bar, but it never goes more than 60%
  • [18:55:47] <awozniak> _av500_: so if I have modprobe cmemk [...] phys_start=0x86300000, then 99M is the number for me?
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  • [19:09:34] <_av500_> indeed
  • [19:10:17] <_av500_> the math is rather simple
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  • [19:34:52] <Mojito> Is the problem am335x systems have with PIO+DMA on USB a flaw in the design? Or just something different that the drivers have not caught up with yet?
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  • [19:42:09] <mranostay> Mojito: did you ask this 2 days ago?
  • [19:42:19] <Mojito> Got no answer.
  • [19:42:30] <Mojito> I am wondering if a fix is possible and I just need to wait for it
  • [19:43:57] <Mojito> As a workaround I am using a kernel with DMA disabled, but that makes recording simple audio form a USB source take 36% of the CPU
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  • [20:23:41] <djlewis> prpplague: received the rework station today. Keeping it boxed until i get home.
  • [20:23:51] <aholler> hmpf, again, 3.3.1: done, booting the kernel. nothing else.
  • [20:23:57] <prpplague> djlewis: :)
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  • [20:35:58] <aholler> ah, disabling CONFIG_OMAP_RESET_CLOCKS helped again
  • [20:37:27] <aholler> Russ: it booted. so when he fixed that static thing, he should send the patch to stable@. Better than before.
  • [20:38:15] <aholler> not sure if I will again bisect to find the clock damager :/
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  • [20:40:10] <aholler> maybe I will just check if that is again in the uart-patch-series ;)
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  • [21:03:12] <SimonL_> Anyone have any luck accessing /dev/video0 using OpenCV?
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  • [22:57:27] <ds2> Hmmmm
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  • [23:04:57] <emeb> What's that humming sound?
  • [23:05:41] <ds2> loose laminations on the xformer ;)
  • [23:06:11] <emeb> Time to replace the fluorescent ballast?
  • [23:06:52] <emeb> or just glop some more shellac on it...
  • [23:07:30] <emeb> Temperature's rising in AZ - my CPU fan is running faster lately.
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  • [23:09:31] <ds2> hitting 80C yet?
  • [23:09:42] <emeb> Not that high.
  • [23:10:03] <ds2> no scorch finger tips?
  • [23:10:04] <emeb> Maybe 35C today.
  • [23:10:08] <ds2> oh
  • [23:10:48] <emeb> 30C in my office...
  • [23:11:02] <emeb> haven't turned on the A/C yet.
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  • [23:12:01] <ds2> wonder how much hotter it is in Tuscon
  • [23:12:23] <emeb> Tucson is usually a few deg cooler. Higher elevation.
  • [23:12:33] <ds2> but it is further south
  • [23:12:43] <emeb> Closer to the sun!
  • [23:12:58] <ds2> didn't think they were that high up unlike flagstaff
  • [23:13:21] <emeb> Not 8k', but they're about 1k' higher than PHX
  • [23:13:54] <ds2> that might explain why I seem to use less gas coming back to PHX
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  • [23:14:18] <emeb> three words: adiabatic lapse rate.
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  • [23:14:51] <emeb> yeah - going downhill the whole way.
  • [23:15:51] <emeb> Here's a weird one though: driving PHX->El Paso we get ~34mpg. El Paso -> San Antonio we get more like 27mpg. Bad gas in W. TX?
  • [23:16:06] <ds2> getting a headwind?
  • [23:16:24] <emeb> Seems consistent no matter which direction.
  • [23:17:01] <ds2> could be.. CA gas is about 10% less MPG. maybe ElPaso use the same crap
  • [23:18:10] <emeb> That's what we figured.
  • [23:18:22] <emeb> Too much ethanol or something.
  • [23:18:24] <ds2> but 7mpg is a lot
  • [23:19:35] <emeb> 14yo Honda Civic - engine controller probably doesn't know how to deal with these modern blends.
  • [23:20:07] <ds2> doesn't the E90 stuff rot the hoses in engines of that era?
  • [23:20:33] <emeb> Don't know for certain.
  • [23:20:41] <emeb> Haven't sprung any leaks tho.
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  • [23:22:51] <ds2> emeb: by chance, do you know of any off the shelf loop antennas with full set of parameters? (i.e. something to use for measurements)
  • [23:23:29] <emeb> You mean like a reference standard antenna for range testing?
  • [23:23:52] <ds2> kind of... more of for fieldstrength measurements
  • [23:24:06] <ds2> chips are too narrow band
  • [23:25:36] <emeb> Not familiar with any specific ones. I'd start looking at the usual suspects - Agilent, B&K, R&S, etc.
  • [23:25:45] <ds2> 'k
  • [23:25:51] <emeb> Probably expect to pay $BIGNUM though.
  • [23:27:00] <emeb> What freq range?
  • [23:27:48] <Tartarus> emeb: San Antonio -> El Paso is also 27mpg, right?
  • [23:27:56] <emeb> Tartarus: pretty much.
  • [23:28:07] <Tartarus> k, so it's not just uphill vs downhill :)
  • [23:28:14] <emeb> correct
  • [23:28:45] <emeb> ds2: something like this? http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=57&prodid=594
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  • [23:41:25] <ds2> emeb: around maybe 1MHz - 5GHz
  • [23:42:32] <emeb> ds2: Looks like there's lots of WiFi test gear for that range.
  • [23:42:40] <ds2> emeb: that might be close.... was hoping it would be just an antenna for a spec an.
  • [23:45:12] <ds2> I see the limits on those...
  • [23:46:28] <emeb> A bunch of FSM test antennas here: http://www2.rohde-schwarz.com/en/products/test_and_measurement/emc_field_strength/emc_accessories/
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  • [23:47:45] <emeb> Prices? If you have to ask...
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  • [23:48:17] <ds2> no, the extech appears to give me the integral of all the different frequencies
  • [23:48:48] <ds2> got to rethink this
  • [23:49:05] <emeb> Ah - Extech is prolly just a wide-band rectifier + filter.
  • [23:49:12] <ds2> yep
  • [23:49:28] <ds2> I got the spec an already...just the problem of a calibrated antenna
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  • [23:50:16] <emeb> I've seen stuff like that before (see Rohde & Schwarz above) - usually they come in a velvet-lined hardwood box.
  • [23:50:23] <emeb> Treated like the crown jewels.
  • [23:50:29] <ds2> and priced like it ;)
  • [23:50:33] <emeb> yep
  • [23:51:26] <ds2> there are some nice PCB antennas but they are not fully characterized
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  • [23:54:24] <emeb> NIST does characterization: http://www.nist.gov/calibrations/electromagnetic-field-strength.cfm
  • [23:56:53] <ds2> emeb: the goal here is to see if there is a better alternative to the EMI labs
  • [23:57:26] <emeb> ds2: I figured - that last was lacking an </irony> tag.
  • [23:57:32] <ds2> :)
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