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  • [00:23:59] <SilicaGel12> look what I got, https://picasaweb.google.com/108380917869049424169/Secret?authkey=Gv1sRgCPXQzoat3b3ffQ#5717685591031575106
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  • [03:36:19] <alan_o> So does anyone have any positive experience using the network port from u-boot on the beagle bone? I have tried TFTP, NFS, and ping with no success. I need to decide whether I'm just doing it wrong or whether I'm barking up the wrong tree and it's just not supported yet.
  • [03:37:24] <jay69811> maybe try the beagle google group?
  • [03:38:02] <alan_o> Yeah, that's the next step if I can't find any answers here
  • [03:38:17] <jay69811> i think the beagle uses a usb ethernet adapter right?
  • [03:38:24] <alan_o> not the bone
  • [03:38:31] <jay69811> ah
  • [03:38:45] <alan_o> The network works great in Linux (so far)
  • [03:38:55] <jay69811> you'll probably get a better response on the group
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  • [04:54:05] <snowrichard> hi
  • [04:54:26] <snowrichard> just made a new web site at jesusradioshow.com, .ogg .mp3 sharing site
  • [04:54:39] <mranostay> yes we saw.. yesterday..
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  • [04:55:05] <snowrichard> got 4 registrations from .ru
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  • [04:55:42] <mranostay> awesome-o!
  • [04:56:33] <snowrichard> i have my new internet now
  • [04:56:40] <snowrichard> the novatel 2200 mifi
  • [04:56:53] <snowrichard> my satellite is on till the 27th or until i send it back
  • [04:57:06] <snowrichard> only have to send the radio eye and the modem not the dish
  • [04:58:07] <snowrichard> I packed my beagle system up and took it with me to my girlfriends house
  • [04:58:16] <snowrichard> we got engaged over the weekend visit lol
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  • [05:11:52] <smp4488> im trying to install the omap3 sgx drivers on ubuntu 12.04, here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/875606/
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  • [05:25:43] <mranostay> smp4488: you try #ubuntu?
  • [05:25:58] <smp4488> mranostay: yea no luck
  • [05:26:10] <smp4488> im running apt-get upgrade atm
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  • [09:30:27] <av500> koen: there, more toy languages hacked: https://gist.github.com/2001456
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  • [09:39:26] <output> hi, is it possible to get analog output from beaglebone?
  • [09:39:58] <koen> can you be more specific?
  • [09:40:04] <koen> in the end everything is analog :)
  • [09:40:34] <LetoThe2nd> in the end was silence...
  • [09:40:35] <av500> even 5.0000000000V?
  • [09:41:40] <output> I just wonder if all communication interface of beaglebone are digital interface
  • [09:41:49] <koen> output: no proper DACs, but there are PWMs
  • [09:42:02] <output> what output is PWM?
  • [09:42:14] <output> what I need was PWM actually
  • [09:42:15] <av500> pulse width modulated output
  • [09:42:26] <output> from what output can I get PWM?
  • [09:42:36] <av500> they manual say
  • [09:42:38] <av500> they manual says
  • [09:42:42] <LetoThe2nd> add some R-C, and there's your analog output ;)
  • [09:43:38] <koen> output: there are 3: the ehrpwm pins, the eCAP pins and the PMIC pins
  • [09:44:42] <output> do you know from which output can I get PWM signal?
  • [09:45:17] <koen> not from memory, you'd have to look that up in the manual
  • [09:46:43] <output> has anyone get his beaglebone from digikey? I wonder if video cable and power unit inside the package when beaglebone is ordered from digikey.com?
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  • [09:47:15] <tasslehoff> koen: noticed a typo in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom. the repo ends with .gitt.
  • [09:47:15] <LetoThe2nd> output: it comes with a tin box and a micros sd card. nothing more.
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  • [09:47:40] <LetoThe2nd> output: BTW, where would you want to plug a "video cable" into the bone? ;)
  • [09:47:42] <output> what cables do you recommend me to buy with it?
  • [09:47:44] <koen> LetoThe2nd: and te tinbox was only for the first 5k units
  • [09:47:55] <tasslehoff> koen: of course there's a goto two lines above, so people should never get there
  • [09:47:57] <LetoThe2nd> output: ok, forget the tin box.
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  • [09:48:01] <av500> koen: I have 2 empty altoid tins to sell to you
  • [09:48:28] <output> ok thank you
  • [09:48:34] <koen> tasslehoff: thanks, fixed!
  • [09:48:39] <output> what cables and units do you recommend me to buy it?
  • [09:48:47] <output> with it
  • [09:48:58] <av500> mini-usb
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  • [09:49:06] <av500> you can start only with that
  • [09:49:15] <av500> it powers and gives serial
  • [09:49:29] <av500> ethernet if you have something to plug it into
  • [09:49:50] <LetoThe2nd> output: a power supply 5V/2A DC, a mini usb cable, a network cable, a network switch, (network refers to 100BaseTX here), a computer running linux, having a free usb socket....
  • [09:50:17] <av500> LetoThe2nd: order a nucular power plant to power the computer?
  • [09:51:06] <LetoThe2nd> output: some kind of power plant that can power your computer, network switch and bone power supply - the choice is yours.
  • [09:51:14] <LetoThe2nd> av500: thanks for the hint,.
  • [09:52:19] <output> I wonder if I can plug usb wireless stick to beaglebone to it has wireless ability?
  • [09:52:29] <output> will it work in this way?
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  • [09:52:47] <LetoThe2nd> output: anything is possible, but don't rely on things to fall into place automagically.
  • [09:52:50] <av500> yes, assuming the stick is supported in linux
  • [09:53:39] <output> is there any special program developing platform for beaglebone or writing a program in C would be fine?
  • [09:54:13] <av500> C is fine
  • [09:54:20] <LetoThe2nd> use whatever alnguage you desire, as long as it has a compiler/runtime for linux, or one for compiling for bare metal.#
  • [09:54:27] <andoma> C is divine .. even
  • [09:54:34] <output> thank you
  • [09:55:17] <av500> andoma: working on a client for the bone?
  • [09:55:37] <andoma> av500: huh?
  • [09:55:53] <av500> that music thing
  • [09:56:22] <andoma> yeah, but what's the 'bone'?
  • [09:56:30] <av500> beagle bone
  • [09:56:35] <andoma> ah :)
  • [09:56:36] <av500> bing it :)
  • [09:56:55] <output> does anybody know what is the product life of beaglebone? what is its expected operation year?
  • [09:57:26] <andoma> well.. there's always my sparetime project (http://www.lonelycoder.com/showtime) which now and then runs on beagle and panda
  • [09:57:31] <andoma> and it has spotifty integration
  • [09:57:38] <andoma> and spotify ships libspotify for ARM
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  • [09:57:41] <andoma> so ... yeah.. it should work
  • [09:58:35] <av500> nice
  • [09:58:39] <av500> what do you use for upnp?
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  • [10:02:55] <av500> andoma: you have hw codec support on beagle and panda?
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  • [10:07:54] <andoma> nope
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  • [10:38:44] <sa_> does anybody knows operational temperature of beagle bone?
  • [10:39:59] <av500> mine works fine at room temperature
  • [10:40:25] <sa_> I am planning to use it for an outdoor application
  • [10:40:59] <av500> did you read the manual?
  • [10:41:00] <sa_> I wonder if it can stands -30C
  • [10:41:16] <av500> I guess the board can
  • [10:41:49] <sa_> it is not written on the manual
  • [10:41:52] <av500> but you have to worry about moisture and condensation and such stuff
  • [10:42:07] <av500> I dont think the electrons will freeze
  • [10:43:07] <LetoThe2nd> yeah, overtemperature is certainly more critical to the electronics. when coming to lower temps, the physics is way more importatn.
  • [10:43:54] <sa_> do you know what kind of chassis is used for outdoor applications to protect the hardware?
  • [10:44:14] <av500> a sealed box?
  • [10:44:17] <sa_> plastic or metal box?
  • [10:44:32] * LetoThe2nd once had fun with a HMI thing frosted down to -60? deg C until the ice covering it broke electronics.
  • [10:44:34] <sa_> do you know any brand that I can search for
  • [10:44:58] <LetoThe2nd> rittal certainly has something.
  • [10:45:21] <av500> LetoThe2nd: you bring out the big guns
  • [10:45:30] <av500> sa_: buy a peli case
  • [10:45:56] <LetoThe2nd> av500: why toy with the small things when you can have fun with the big toys? ;)
  • [10:45:59] <av500> drill some holes for the cables and seal them afterwards
  • [10:46:12] <av500> or google for IP 67
  • [10:46:17] <av500> or whatever level you need
  • [10:46:43] <LetoThe2nd> .. and put in a big pack or silica gel or whatever before closing it ;)
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  • [10:46:58] <sa_> thank you
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  • [10:53:08] <av500> koen: :))))
  • [10:54:11] <koen> what did I do now?
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  • [10:54:18] <av500> koen: g+
  • [10:54:40] <koen> ah, that one :)
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  • [11:10:13] <jannau> av500: are there known wifi issues with ics? I had turn it off and on a couple of times. wl127x message in http://pastie.org/3554977 might related
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  • [11:20:22] <arcanescu_> hmmm bones flier reads : >700-MHz superscalar ARM Cortex???-A8 ... is it not able to go to 1Ghz? or am I missing something?
  • [11:21:12] <koen> the current build is speed binned at 720MHz
  • [11:21:25] <arcanescu_> is there a reason for that?
  • [11:21:37] <koen> you might get lucky and run it reliably at 1GHz, but it's currently out of spec
  • [11:21:43] <arcanescu_> aha
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  • [11:22:12] <koen> 1GHz support for the AM335x SoC is being worked on, but no firm dates or firm plans to use it in the beaglebone yet
  • [11:22:16] <av500> koen: but then it wont be faster than the r-pi!!!?!?!1!
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  • [11:22:46] <arcanescu_> yes that was the next point i was going to make av500
  • [11:23:08] <arcanescu_> a freind sent me a question asking for a beaglebone vs beagle xm vs pi
  • [11:23:34] <av500> there is an epic thread on the mailing list
  • [11:24:31] <arcanescu_> did they get to a point where everyone had chairs in their hands or not?
  • [11:25:00] <av500> in short, 700MHz arm11 != 700MHz cortex A8
  • [11:25:22] <arcanescu_> because of?
  • [11:26:35] <av500> armv6 vs armv7, no NEON vs NEON
  • [11:27:45] <arcanescu_> oh!....
  • [11:28:01] <arcanescu_> any links to that thread do would be worth a read
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  • [11:29:52] <koen> nonsense
  • [11:30:01] <koen> only megahertzes count
  • [11:30:10] <av500> and megapixels
  • [11:30:17] <koen> a pentium4 4GHz is faster than an i7 at 3.4GHz
  • [11:31:49] <ynezz> rpi8 > *
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  • [11:34:09] <tasslehoff> I've asked before, but is ext3 a sane choice for uSD-cards? we're seeing some spurious latencies of 3-4 seconds that we try to figure out how to get rid of. seems like (based on a vague feeling) it gets worse after the cards have been used for a while.
  • [11:34:21] <av500> that is the card itself
  • [11:34:30] <av500> I would assume
  • [11:35:10] <av500> tried any other filesystem?
  • [11:35:14] <av500> even FAT32
  • [11:36:58] <ogra_> well, ext3 has many optimization knobs you can turn
  • [11:37:03] <tasslehoff> av500: we had rootfs on ext2 and /data (storage of media files and such) on fat32 > 1yr ago, but I can't remember if it was good :)
  • [11:37:18] <ogra_> ext4 even more
  • [11:37:35] <av500> tasslehoff: you get these latencies when you read? or write?
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  • [11:37:41] <ogra_> and there are kernel options that can speed up a lot (i.e. adjusting cache pressure etc)
  • [11:37:56] <av500> ogra_: I dont think he is swapping to the sdcard :)
  • [11:38:06] <av500> I assume he writes some log data or so
  • [11:38:13] <arcanescu_> I have noticed problems with ext3...well all filesystems for that fact a collegue pulled out the sd card whilst the board was running..... it corrupts the filesystem..... Is this a known problem?
  • [11:38:44] <tasslehoff> av500: on write.
  • [11:38:53] <av500> I would surprised if the card was not corrupted
  • [11:39:03] <av500> I doubt a write to sd is atomic
  • [11:39:16] <ogra_> but ext3 and ext4 should recover fine if you didnt disable the journal at least
  • [11:39:16] <av500> the card could still hold the data in some buffer before really writing to NAND
  • [11:39:28] <av500> ogra_: even journal might not help
  • [11:39:37] <av500> how do you make sure the card has flushed the data to nand?
  • [11:39:43] <ogra_> i havent seen a totally broken FS in years
  • [11:39:52] <av500> you have no controll over what the flash controller does
  • [11:40:12] <av500> and there are industrial sd card that actually garantee to finish pending writes on power loss
  • [11:40:23] <av500> so I guess the comsumer stuff does not
  • [11:40:56] <ogra_> you can mount with discard option (TRIM support) that should at least make the journal bits write directly if the controller supports TRIM
  • [11:41:10] <av500> does sd support TRIM?
  • [11:41:30] <av500> and again, that does not garantee flushing buffers to nand
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  • [11:42:25] <tasslehoff> short summary from the guy really investigating this (not on irc, so I'm his frontend now): high latency peaks, up to 4s even for small (5k) writes to the file system.
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  • [11:42:38] <av500> tasslehoff: ic
  • [11:42:52] <av500> I guess thats the flash controller reshuffling stuff
  • [11:42:54] <ogra_> well, eMMC does support TRIM
  • [11:43:03] <ogra_> so i would expect some SDs too
  • [11:44:52] <tasslehoff> av500: hence no way to fix it, other than writing the application so it can cope with it?
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  • [11:47:28] <av500> tasslehoff: or a better card
  • [11:47:40] <av500> or more debug
  • [11:48:00] <av500> make sure its really the low level sd card write that blocks for so long
  • [11:49:39] <av500> in other words, earn your keep :)
  • [11:53:41] <tasslehoff> av500: :)
  • [11:57:18] <tasslehoff> we're working with the 16gb version of http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/ultra-microsdhc-memory-card
  • [11:59:05] <av500> wow, "ultra"
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  • [11:59:36] <ogra_> thats not "hyper" though
  • [11:59:58] <tasslehoff> maybe we need an sd card name generator as well
  • [12:00:15] <ogra_> that prefixes with superlatives ? yeah !
  • [12:00:19] <av500> just add "S2"
  • [12:02:52] <tasslehoff> are there better sd cards out there than the consumer ones (bought the mentioned one from a consumer webshop). are "industrial grade" cards better?
  • [12:03:23] <av500> ogra_: question is, will the card ever be updated to ext4.0, or is it stranded on ext2 or 3 due to manufacturer.....
  • [12:05:47] <av500> somebody put the r-pi into a mobile phone: http://www.mobiflip.de/simvalley-mobile-spt-800-dual-sim-outdoor-smartphone-mit-android/
  • [12:06:56] <ogra_> lol
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  • [12:29:30] <av500> anybody using a WDTV live?
  • [12:46:58] <dm8tbr> av500: I think a friend of mine does have one
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  • [12:49:19] <av500> well, at the price I will just buy one
  • [12:53:28] <andoma> i got one for free
  • [12:53:29] <andoma> never used it
  • [12:54:08] <ynezz> want my shipping address?
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  • [12:58:58] <av500> andoma: or mine? :)
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  • [14:56:01] <cehh> GrueMaster: saw your post asking for help testing beagle. Where do you post the kernel and filesystem images?
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  • [15:02:51] <ogra_> cehh, cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled
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  • [15:03:05] <ogra_> and wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP
  • [15:03:05] <heeen> hi
  • [15:03:36] <heeen> just installed a ubuntu-11.10-r6-minimal-armel image but usb network does not seem to come up
  • [15:04:16] <heeen> what do I have to do to get usb networking
  • [15:04:23] <rcn-ee> heeen, which board?
  • [15:04:35] <heeen> it says C4
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  • [15:04:50] <heeen> when I plug a monitor in all I get is a penguin, no text at all
  • [15:04:57] <rcn-ee> do you have a powered usb hub connected? to power your usb ehci...
  • [15:05:11] <heeen> uhm
  • [15:05:22] <heeen> I just connected the otp port to my workstation
  • [15:05:56] <rcn-ee> ah, so usb networking over otg..
  • [15:06:22] <heeen> what were you referring to? usb ethernet adaptor?
  • [15:06:39] <heeen> anyways I don't see anything in var/log/messages
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  • [15:07:37] <rcn-ee> that's normally what i use.. ;) anywho, it's not setup by default to work in that case out of the box.. there is a usb0 device, you'd need to set it's ip on both sides of the usb connection..
  • [15:07:58] <cehh> ogra_: thanks for the links
  • [15:08:31] <rcn-ee> but the monitor should work out of the box... care to log the serial bootup log from power on to idle and post it on pastebin.com so i can take look at it?
  • [15:08:38] <heeen> http://pastebin.com/kVpxMuxA
  • [15:08:56] <heeen> oh
  • [15:09:17] <heeen> I'll have to see if I have a serial cable that works
  • [15:11:09] <heeen> I don't have one right now
  • [15:13:11] <rcn-ee> okay, well hopefully the c4's using the uEnv.txt correctly.. "dmesg > log" then copy to pc and upload that to pastebin.com might help see the video issue..
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  • [15:17:51] <heeen> but how do I get on the thing in the first place :(
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  • [15:18:24] <rcn-ee> ah.. duh.. no caffeen moment... you previously said no serial port..
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  • [15:20:01] <rcn-ee> humm, so with no working monitor, no serial port to debug, and the otg ethernet not setup to connect by default in my images...
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  • [15:21:36] <smplman> rcn-ee: do you know why the omap3 sgx packages on 12.04 are missing? Im getting a missing or obsolete while trying to install them
  • [15:21:38] <rcn-ee> sorry, that's just not a usage case i thought about when setting up when uploading my images..
  • [15:21:38] <heeen> the monitor shows a penguin! that hast to be worth something
  • [15:22:26] <rcn-ee> heeen, it should have shown the kernel bootlog, and provided a login prompt.. so it sounds like it's not getting the correct boot parameters..
  • [15:22:50] <rcn-ee> smplman, are those the ones ubuntu provides in their archive?
  • [15:22:56] <smplman> rcn-ee: yes
  • [15:23:42] <heeen> it also blinks in a blip-blip ... blip-blip pattern
  • [15:23:44] <rcn-ee> i thought rsalveti has pushed those out for the 12.04, but they maybe only omap4 bits...
  • [15:23:48] <heeen> maybe a kernel error?
  • [15:24:03] <Russ> blip-blip blip-blip is the heartbeat
  • [15:24:51] <smplman> rcn-ee: i searched the package base and they are there, when i try to apt-get install it tells me missing or obsolete, referenced by another package
  • [15:24:58] <smplman> am i missing some sources?
  • [15:26:42] <heeen> rcn-ee: anything I can hack while writing the image?
  • [15:26:46] <heeen> change some parameters
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  • [15:27:54] <rcn-ee> heeen, you can edit /etc/networking/interfaces and enable the usb0... then you might be able to get in over the network to see the other issues.. But really the serial cable would be the quickest easiest to debug..
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  • [15:29:21] <rcn-ee> smplman, what was the base package callled.. (i've always just brought in my own sgx bits, and never used ubuntu's package)
  • [15:30:19] <ogra_> smplman, ask in #linaro, they maintain the SGX packages in the ubuntu archive ... i lbelive though that we are waiting for armhf binaires
  • [15:30:46] <smplman> rcn-ee: libegl1-sgx-omap3 libgles1-sgx-omap3 libgles2-sgx-omap3
  • [15:30:47] <ogra_> (since arfmel is gone in ubuntu)
  • [15:30:52] <ogra_> *armel
  • [15:31:00] <smplman> yea buddy
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  • [15:31:30] <rcn-ee> smplman, those might be armel only still, ping rsalveti he's usually the one in charge of that package.. i know there's armhf omap4 bits, but the omap3 stuff might not be ready..
  • [15:31:47] <smplman> rcn-ee: gotcha, thx
  • [15:32:05] <ogra_> yeah, iirc he wanted to talk to koen at ELC about getting hf binaries ready
  • [15:32:15] <smplman> rsalveti: i have a question about some omap3 sgx packages in ubuntu
  • [15:33:04] <smplman> rcn-ee: when i try to run run-SGX.sh i get an error about missing /usr/bin/pvrmgr something, i cant remember for sure
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  • [15:34:07] <rcn-ee> yeap, that's binary that loads/starts the graphics thingy.. it comes from the ti sgx package..
  • [15:34:54] * ogra_ doesnt think that was ever used in any ubuntu package
  • [15:35:54] <rcn-ee> i think he meant: /usr/bin/pvrsrvinit
  • [15:36:13] <smplman> yes i did, sry
  • [15:36:21] <rcn-ee> which is called by the init script, on bootup..
  • [15:36:30] <smplman> yes, same error on boot
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  • [15:37:13] <rcn-ee> as a workaround, you could use the multi-arch feature and install a whole bunch of armel libs's. .;)
  • [15:37:47] <smplman> would sgx run very well under those circumstances?
  • [15:38:38] <rcn-ee> it should run exactly like it did in oneiric... (i'm not really expecting an increase in speed from sgx, just from the armel->armhf transistion)...
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  • [15:42:47] <smplman> wishful thinking
  • [15:43:41] <rcn-ee> it's always wishful with the blobs.. now if they were open. ;)
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  • [15:55:33] <arcanescu> for beagle XM ... uboot does not recognize ip=xxx.xxx.xxx ?
  • [15:56:10] <arcanescu> in uEnv.txt ofcourse...
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  • [16:17:17] <arcanescu> with the beaglesXM default image on sdcard for uboot how do you set network info?
  • [16:20:22] <prpplague> koen: yea right, lets do some "image enhancement"
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  • [16:37:44] <deltamind106> Trying to get UART1 running on the Beagleboard-xM (rev C). UART1 pins are on expansion connector P9 which is the 2x14 header. I have gotten the TXD RXD and CTS signals of UART1 to all work correctly, but the RTS signal will not function at all. RTS is an output and should be either at 0V or 1.8V. The docs say UART1 RTS appears on P9 pin 10, and it is mux mode 0. I am building the 3.1.4 RCN-EE kernel from source, so I hav
  • [16:37:44] <deltamind106> e added the appropriate OMAP3_MUX macro calls to the "omap_board_mux board_mux" array, so that the muxing of the processor pins is set. UART1 RTS is mux mode 0 anyways so it should just work by default. I have spent a fair amount of time on this and my conclusion is there is a bug in the kernel driver for the UART RTS handling code, or the documentation on the Beagleboard xM is inaccurate and RTS is not really on P9 pin 10
  • [16:37:44] <deltamind106> (mux mode 0). Can anyone assist, or point me to the right place to get assistance with this? You can also email me at epj -at- newpointtech (dot) com. Thank you.
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  • [16:43:59] <rcn-ee> deltamind106, i'd really ping the beagleboard group list, with that.. It'll get more eye's on the question.. sorry, i can't answer it directly, i also need to really look more into using the pinmux stuff..
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  • [16:54:22] <GrueMaster> mdp: Any luck testing the beaglexm with ubuntu precise?
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  • [16:56:52] <smplman> GrueMaster: do you know why the sgx packages are giving me an error, missing or obsolete when trying to install
  • [16:57:29] <GrueMaster> Not a clue. I'll try it here. Is this with precise armhf?
  • [16:57:34] <smplman> yes
  • [16:57:57] <smplman> it says its referenced by another packed but it cant seem to find a source for it
  • [16:58:06] <GrueMaster> Ok, give me a few (need to reflash an SD and start).
  • [16:58:22] <smplman> GrueMaster: no rush, im not around my hw atm
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  • [16:58:42] <smplman> i did try to boot the daily image in qemu and it faild
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  • [17:06:03] <deltamind106> Thanks rcn-ee, I've done just that. I am using Ubuntu Lucid and have not tried precise.
  • [17:06:58] <arcanescu> ok well this might sound something easy but ipaddr= or ip= dont seem to work with uEnv.txt it doesnt seem to retain that ip address?
  • [17:07:21] <GrueMaster> smplman: Hmm. I would guess that it isn't ported to armhf yet. And I don't think you can easily intermix those armel drivers with armhf systems.
  • [17:07:43] <smplman> GrueMaster: yea thats what rcn-ee was saying
  • [17:07:47] <rcn-ee> deltamind106, the os really shouldn't matter for that, it's probally either something else is already using that pin/etc.
  • [17:08:07] <smplman> i might try the multi-arch stuff
  • [17:10:11] <rsalveti> we'll probably not have a new armhf build from ti in time for omap3
  • [17:10:41] <GrueMaster> smplman: I pinged rsalvetti in #linaro, and he plans on looking into it real soon. So hopefully we'll have armhf sgx support before Beta 2.
  • [17:10:59] <GrueMaster> Oh, you're here. :P
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  • [17:11:36] <arcanescu> setting this information say in " Profile" using ifconfig usb0 ip doesnt work either.... it resets it automatically...
  • [17:12:03] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: rcn-ee: smplman: something to try: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/TKRhGE6VoMU
  • [17:12:39] <rsalveti> that would probably be the easier way for now
  • [17:12:47] <rsalveti> not done properly, but already something
  • [17:12:49] <SilicaGel> i hate allegro so much
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  • [17:13:03] <rsalveti> now for a real armhf driver, we'd need to wait feedback from TI
  • [17:13:08] <smplman> rsalveti: thanks, will work on it
  • [17:13:13] <rsalveti> and koen was the one looking at that
  • [17:13:20] <rsalveti> but don't know if he's in touch with that anymore
  • [17:13:28] <smplman> the forms seem pretty active
  • [17:13:45] <smplman> forums*
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  • [17:22:29] <GrueMaster> I'm still waiting for membership approval. sigh.
  • [17:23:57] <rcn-ee> GrueMaster, for the beagleboard group?
  • [17:24:07] <GrueMaster> yes.
  • [17:24:35] <GrueMaster> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard
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  • [17:26:02] <rcn-ee> GrueMaster, i know it gets a lot of spam, so jkridner and the other guys usualy have a big backlog every day.. As long as your a register it should go thru..
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  • [17:27:02] <GrueMaster> Yea, I'm waiting patiently. I have a post that is pending as well, a call for testers.
  • [17:27:54] <rcn-ee> zsync is running here.. ;) just a really slow connection..
  • [17:30:29] <prpplague> koen: i've been making some validation microsd cards for the rest of the teams
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  • [17:30:42] <prpplague> koen: i purchased a bunch of 2gb microsd cards
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  • [17:31:23] <prpplague> koen: so someone comes to me to get a validation image, they hand me a 8gb mircosd card, then i give them a 2gb microsd with the validation image
  • [17:31:33] <prpplague> koen: so now i have all 8gb cards......
  • [17:31:47] <prpplague> koen: cost of 2's left with 8's
  • [17:32:14] <rcn-ee> profit! that's nice business venture. .;)
  • [17:32:46] <GrueMaster> 2G cards are useless for ubuntu anyways. 8G are better. :D
  • [17:32:55] <LetoThe2nd> prpplague == ferengi?
  • [17:33:21] <smplman> prpplague: what the prp mean in your nick?
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  • [17:37:09] <prpplague> smplman: http://elinux.org/User:Prpplague
  • [17:38:00] <smplman> prpplague: ahh, there is an area of town where i live called prp, thought you might be around
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  • [17:38:36] <SilicaGel> hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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  • [17:43:04] <prpplague> LetoThe2nd: i do have big ears
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  • [17:44:47] <LetoThe2nd> oO( do ferengi speak with texan accent? )
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  • [17:45:14] <GrueMaster> Texan, Ferengi. How can you tell the difference?
  • [17:45:52] <mdp> GrueMaster: yes, I discovered that all of my uSD cards are 2GB :(
  • [17:46:07] <GrueMaster> oops.
  • [17:46:11] <mdp> except for the one in use in my handset/tablet
  • [17:46:39] <GrueMaster> Ask prpplague for an 8G. I hear he has a good supply coming in now. :P
  • [17:47:06] <mdp> have to order my own???he and I are too far away :)
  • [17:47:14] <mdp> but I like his scheme
  • [17:48:07] <GrueMaster> Actually, for this test, a 2G should be enough. YOu should know if networking and audio works without even going through the full oem-config routine.
  • [17:48:38] <ogra_> but better teeth (or at least a better dentist)
  • [17:48:49] <GrueMaster> The network link is visual. On mine, I don't have link leds lit up on the ethernet port.
  • [17:49:41] <GrueMaster> For audio, you can click on the speaker icon on the top panel, and see what output hardware it is using (mine shows as dummy output).
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  • [17:52:07] <mdp> GrueMaster: your image is larger than these 2GB parts
  • [17:52:37] <mdp> *ahem* 1967MB
  • [17:53:05] <GrueMaster> Oh. heh. Never noticed, but then all my SD cards are 4G or bigger.
  • [17:53:21] * GrueMaster feels sheepish.
  • [17:54:44] <GrueMaster> You could try the http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu-12.04-beta1-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz image. It is 1.6G uncompressed.
  • [17:55:03] <GrueMaster> That will at least test networking.
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  • [17:56:49] <GrueMaster> Or, just boot our netboot image from http://ports/ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/current/images/omap/netboot/boot.img-serial.gz
  • [17:57:32] <GrueMaster> To me, network support is critical. Audio is a high priority, but not entirely necessary.
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  • [18:02:12] <mdp> GrueMaster: ok, fetching
  • [18:02:34] <mdp> at least I have an excuse for some larger uSD cards now
  • [18:02:37] <mdp> demand driven!
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  • [18:06:35] <mdp> GrueMaster: I have piles and piles of 1/2GB full size SDs..at least my expensive EVMs use those
  • [18:06:56] <mdp> I'm thinking about making a decorative tree with the rest
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  • [18:13:50] <GrueMaster> heh. I use a few small ones mainly for netboot and when root is on either USB or the network.
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  • [18:16:00] <mdp> 2GB is enormous for the typical console only angstrom rootfs I use for testing kernel stuff
  • [18:16:08] <prpplague> <GrueMaster> Texan, Ferengi. How can you tell the difference?
  • [18:16:11] <prpplague> GrueMaster: good point
  • [18:16:23] <GrueMaster> Heh.
  • [18:16:43] <LetoThe2nd> oO( do ferengi still sell calculators? )
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  • [19:07:21] <djlewis> Packard Bell
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  • [19:07:41] <etheretic> petabyte.
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  • [19:09:11] <etheretic> or why be whatshamecallitsc - let's go for yottabytes! :D
  • [19:10:52] <etheretic> could maybe even store the 15-mile-bookshelves vatican library...
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  • [19:14:19] <djlewis> get three, one to use, one to back to and a spare
  • [19:15:18] <etheretic> aye.
  • [19:15:52] <etheretic> quantum/photonic, preferrably.
  • [19:16:14] <etheretic> as well as fractal.
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  • [19:20:30] <etheretic> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6901606.stm
  • [19:21:13] <etheretic> erk, that's 37 miles
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  • [20:34:53] <etheretic> ...enemies foreign and domestic.
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  • [20:47:28] <djlewis> its bound to be quiting time on Friday somewhere in the world
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  • [21:10:24] <mru> djlewis: let's introduce a new timezone: UFT - Universal Friday Time
  • [21:11:56] <Tartarus> +1
  • [21:12:58] <ds2> are you trying to corner the market on fermented beverages?
  • [21:13:47] <mru> not at all, I have no desire to see the fine breweries of the world go out of business
  • [21:13:51] <mru> on the contrary
  • [21:13:57] <mru> this should boost their sales considerably
  • [21:14:45] <ds2> yes but the demand it would create
  • [21:14:57] <ds2> poor overworked yeast
  • [21:15:16] <mru> so start a few more
  • [21:15:31] <mru> no, making the existing ones bigger is not a good idea
  • [21:15:45] <mru> we all know what happens if a brewery grows too large
  • [21:15:48] <ds2> then you'll be taxing the farmers
  • [21:15:54] <ds2> all the grain and hops
  • [21:16:08] <ds2> the poor folks will complain
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  • [21:16:21] <mru> the farmers will have to hire more people then
  • [21:16:32] <mru> it'll solve the unemployment problem
  • [21:17:11] <mru> maybe we should petition the queen to declare perpetual friday
  • [21:17:29] <mru> oh right, you guys don't have a queen
  • [21:18:51] <ds2> blame on georgie
  • [21:19:48] * LetoThe2nd thinks mru's political theories COULD save the world----- naybe, at least.
  • [21:20:15] <mru> at least we'd have more fun while it burns
  • [21:20:37] <LetoThe2nd> burning things is fun.
  • [21:20:52] <mru> do I sense a little pyromaniac?
  • [21:21:13] <ds2> isn't that for mr fawk's day?
  • [21:21:20] <LetoThe2nd> not exactly pyromaniac. i just like destroying things.
  • [21:22:07] <mru> that's going in the archives
  • [21:22:15] <LetoThe2nd> ?
  • [21:22:20] <ds2> hehehe
  • [21:22:45] <mru> the secret archives in sector 63 or course
  • [21:22:57] <LetoThe2nd> AH!
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  • [21:27:40] <LetoThe2nd> i'm #108, #109. #110 :)
  • [21:30:15] <etheretic> awoogah.
  • [21:30:53] <mru> see also http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/52
  • [21:30:54] <etheretic> stuff from atlantis and stuff.
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  • [21:34:58] <etheretic> mru: u have access to a classified cray or whats? :D
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  • [21:36:08] <mru> what does cray have to do with burning things ok friday while drinking beer?
  • [21:36:37] <etheretic> complicate calculations.
  • [21:37:09] <etheretic> onto my 5th btw.
  • [21:37:51] <etheretic> beer
  • [21:38:05] <prpplague> mru: funny i ask the same thing all the time
  • [21:38:37] <etheretic> just hope the bouncers let me in..
  • [21:39:56] <etheretic> X
  • [21:41:01] <mru> prpplague: now you have me confused
  • [21:41:22] <prpplague> <mru> what does cray have to do with burning things on friday while drinking beer?
  • [21:41:49] <mru> you fixed the typo
  • [21:42:09] <mru> but why would you be asking that?
  • [21:42:57] <funkster> for me to connect a rca monitor to beagleboard all i would need is a simple dvi to rca converter, yeah?
  • [21:44:04] <mru> either you're trolling or you really need to read the specs better
  • [21:44:32] <funkster> i glanced at specs, said dvi out, no?
  • [21:44:37] <funkster> am i missing something somewhere?
  • [21:44:44] <mru> yes, it says dvi out
  • [21:44:53] <mru> dvi-d to be precise
  • [21:45:00] <mru> now what were you looking to connect that to?
  • [21:45:27] <funkster> lcd monitor
  • [21:45:54] <mru> with what interface?
  • [21:45:59] <funkster> rca
  • [21:46:31] <mru> that's a vague name for a family of widely used connectors
  • [21:46:40] <mru> what do you mean exactly?
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  • [21:46:53] <mru> composite video?
  • [21:47:35] <funkster> http://www.amazon.com/3-5-Inch-TFT-Monitor-Automobile/dp/B0045IIZKU/ref=pd_cp_e_0
  • [21:47:42] <funkster> not sure if thats composite or not.
  • [21:49:24] <funkster> AV RCA video input.
  • [21:50:22] <djlewis> funkster: use the s-video jack
  • [21:51:09] <funkster> yeah? ok and just get a s-video to rca converter.
  • [21:51:19] <djlewis> a simple cable
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  • [21:51:50] <djlewis> I think you use s-video gnd and 1-signal, Y perhaps, I have slept since then.
  • [21:51:54] <mru> or throw out that crap and buy a dvi monitor
  • [21:51:56] <prpplague> mru: just trolling you
  • [21:52:12] <mru> prpplague: makes sense
  • [21:52:15] <funkster> mru, i need low powered 3-5" monitor for project.
  • [21:52:27] <prpplague> mru: my dosage of trolling from ELC is starting to wear off
  • [21:52:28] <djlewis> mru: is correct if you want to do better than ntsc video
  • [21:52:54] * mru recommends http://www.lilliput.com/ for small monitors
  • [21:52:54] <funkster> i only need a "good enough" picture
  • [21:53:08] <funkster> those are $200+
  • [21:53:17] <djlewis> does mru get a commision for the advert?
  • [21:53:20] <mru> no
  • [21:53:26] <mru> they're just good monitors
  • [21:53:26] <funkster> i have several small monitor for my dslr camera when i tested them out
  • [21:54:05] <funkster> the cheap $30 3.5 is good for was I need - yes lilliput are GREAT field monitors
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  • [21:54:49] <djlewis> i have at least 2 dozen 3.5" color composite lcd monitors
  • [21:55:19] <funkster> djlewis: any reason you suggest s-video over dvi out into a rca?
  • [21:55:42] <djlewis> half need a little horse shoe shaped backlight
  • [21:55:47] <djlewis> ease of use
  • [21:56:10] <funkster> ok cool - buying cable now.
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  • [21:56:30] <djlewis> funkster: a beagleboard or beaglebone?
  • [21:56:43] <mranostay> djlewis: we like to use the term kickback here
  • [21:56:49] <funkster> beagleboard xm
  • [21:56:55] <djlewis> mranostay: :)
  • [21:57:11] <djlewis> funkster: yep it should have the s-video jack.
  • [21:57:36] <funkster> id have to buy some extra capes to do that with beaglebone, no?
  • [21:58:29] <djlewis> funkster: where is your DIY hat?
  • [21:58:41] <djlewis> ordering a cable?
  • [21:59:25] <mru> svideo cabling is easy enough to hand solder
  • [21:59:28] <funkster> i threw it out the window after hundreds of man hours to get my printer/scanner/fax to work correctly on ubuntu
  • [22:00:15] <djlewis> well, gewtting a throw away proprietary gadget to work in Ubuntu can be a challenge at times
  • [22:00:37] <djlewis> s/-w/gewtting
  • [22:00:43] <mru> s/.*ubuntu/ubuntu/
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  • [22:02:49] * djlewis has found most common TV/video cards are a pain in the arse to get working too.
  • [22:03:02] <djlewis> as in capture cards
  • [22:03:54] <djlewis> once you pull the tv/fm tuner from the cards and use them, the fun begins :)
  • [22:04:39] <djlewis> and why the hell dont motherboards have a i2c header :(
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  • [22:06:10] <djlewis> a darn three pin header somewhere giving us i2c access is all i ask, argh!
  • [22:07:16] <mru> find something on the board using i2c and hijack it
  • [22:08:27] <prpplague> djlewis: most do have a number of i2c buses
  • [22:09:10] <djlewis> prpplague: yep. only easy access is the video cable and that is not so good.
  • [22:09:58] <prpplague> djlewis: most of the sodimm memory stick have an i2c temp sensor these days
  • [22:10:06] <prpplague> let me see if can find a url for you
  • [22:10:11] <prpplague> i have it bookmarked at home
  • [22:10:34] <djlewis> cool, but still, it would be so fine if they just put a header onboard.
  • [22:10:57] <prpplague> yea
  • [22:11:55] <prpplague> djlewis: of course you could always use a ft2232
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  • [22:12:25] <djlewis> but then they would make it some kind of propritary and tells there is a non exixst optional adapter to order
  • [22:12:47] <djlewis> prpplague: are you into the rum already ;)
  • [22:13:13] <prpplague> djlewis: hehe, easy with ft2232
  • [22:13:27] <djlewis> good grief, my spelling and grammer are way off today. perhaps there is rum in my coke
  • [22:13:44] <razvedchik> hi, friends! how are you? ;)
  • [22:14:03] <mru> djlewis: is there another way to drink coke?
  • [22:14:07] <djlewis> prpplague: then we have to have yet another driver so we can talk through ft2232 to ic2
  • [22:14:12] <mru> shame on the rum though
  • [22:14:25] <thurbad> owen doesn't have any friends!!!
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  • [22:14:52] <mru> who the hell is owen?
  • [22:15:05] <thurbad> character in a movie
  • [22:15:12] <djlewis> not like the face book groupies with thousands of fake friends
  • [22:15:54] <mru> "A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body."
  • [22:15:55] <mranostay> friends are overrated
  • [22:16:07] <djlewis> mru: you are a wise man :)
  • [22:16:29] <mranostay> djlewis: you know that hand statement can be taken out of context :)
  • [22:16:51] <thurbad> or maybe in context
  • [22:17:07] <razvedchik> i would like to participate in gsoc 2012 and this is my first visit here
  • [22:17:10] <prpplague> djlewis: darn i can't seem to find the howto
  • [22:17:14] <prpplague> djlewis: give me a sec
  • [22:18:15] <djlewis> ok, ok, my fingers on one of my hands :P
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  • [22:21:09] <funkster> you guys pre-order raspberry pi?
  • [22:21:28] <mru> why would we do that when we have perfectly fine beagles?
  • [22:21:32] <thurbad> nope
  • [22:21:42] * djlewis don't need no bloomin raspberry
  • [22:21:44] <jay6981> why would anyone pre-order anything?
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  • [22:22:32] <funkster> jay6981: quicker you order quicker you get it
  • [22:22:36] <djlewis> just ask a good friend to pick one up for you :)
  • [22:22:37] <thurbad> prices seems good, but it doesn't have features needed for our work project
  • [22:22:49] <jay6981> yeah, but why would you want to pay to alpha/beta test something?
  • [22:23:01] <jay6981> they should be paying you
  • [22:23:10] <djlewis> iirc they have that first big order then they changed the product some
  • [22:23:12] <funkster> thurbad: oh whats it missing that you need?
  • [22:23:22] <prpplague> djlewis: well #$%#$ i can't seem to find the howto i have bookmarked at home
  • [22:23:24] <jay6981> FCS always has problems
  • [22:23:24] <mranostay> funkster: everything :)
  • [22:23:28] <funkster> jay6981: its beta testing, where did you read that?
  • [22:23:30] <prpplague> djlewis: i'll try and ping you later with it
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  • [22:23:47] <prpplague> djlewis: can't use the edid line on the display port?
  • [22:23:54] <djlewis> prpplague: i dont know if I want to try to solder to those tiny little memory pins anyway.
  • [22:23:55] <funkster> mranostay: lol!
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  • [22:24:02] <thurbad> serial ports, for one
  • [22:24:14] <prpplague> djlewis: hehe
  • [22:24:19] <jay6981> funkster: i've seen how the sausage is made. I'd stay away from first customer ship
  • [22:24:48] <djlewis> like one should avoid fresh microsoft os releases
  • [22:25:00] <mru> or gcc x.0 releases
  • [22:25:00] <jay6981> or the first model year of a new car
  • [22:25:13] <funkster> its 35 bucks, i spent 35 bucks on a few hot dogs and a coke at the NBA game last night, i dont think its that big of a deal
  • [22:25:14] <djlewis> or my ex ol lady
  • [22:25:20] <jay6981> heh
  • [22:25:32] <thurbad> also don't know what linux will be running on it and how well supported repositories will be in the near term
  • [22:25:41] <ynezz> rpi on nba? what?
  • [22:25:49] <djlewis> yeah the dogs and coke are a better deal
  • [22:25:54] <mru> and it's a frickin arm11
  • [22:26:08] <jay6981> funkster: glad you have money to burn
  • [22:26:09] <funkster> it suurree issss lol those sabreets are sooo good tho.
  • [22:26:18] <mranostay> mru: heh lets make a ARM9 board and profit :)
  • [22:26:29] <prpplague> djlewis: this isn't the page i have bookmarked, but it talks about it and has a picture - http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/HardwareHacking
  • [22:26:34] <ynezz> cortex-m3 ftw!
  • [22:26:36] <funkster> $35 on a computer, and i have money to burn, thats a stretch man... lol
  • [22:26:41] <djlewis> how about those $9 m3 boards going around
  • [22:26:42] <mru> mranostay: it can make perfect sense to use an arm9
  • [22:26:48] <mru> arm11 not so much any more
  • [22:26:56] <mru> not with the armv7 stuff available
  • [22:26:59] <mru> and cheap
  • [22:27:18] * djlewis tries to click on the link as it scrolls up the screen :)
  • [22:27:32] * mru helps it scroll
  • [22:27:38] * mranostay helps more
  • [22:27:44] <djlewis> argh :(
  • [22:27:55] <mru> let's scroll it!
  • [22:28:01] <mru> scrolling, scrolling, scrolling...
  • [22:28:10] <funkster> what link... huh?
  • [22:28:13] <funkster> what link?
  • [22:28:18] <funkster> i don't see it =D
  • [22:28:28] <prpplague> cha-ching, yet another 8GB card in exchange for a 2GB card
  • [22:28:41] <djlewis> prpplague: sorry you looked so hard for that link, i have had it bookmarked for years
  • [22:28:44] <mru> prpplague: it probably has smaller bits
  • [22:29:06] <prpplague> djlewis: i have one that is even more detailed
  • [22:29:09] <djlewis> was that 8Gb for 2GB?
  • [22:29:24] <mranostay> prpplague: eh?
  • [22:30:02] <prpplague> mranostay: see the log
  • [22:30:04] <djlewis> prpplague: yeah, I could solder to those big ol pins easy.
  • [22:31:05] <djlewis> oops, the chip is much smaller on pc-5200
  • [22:31:43] <prpplague> djlewis: yea i suspect that it varies
  • [22:32:23] <djlewis> that's probably an old ddr simm
  • [22:32:29] <djlewis> dimm
  • [22:35:39] * djlewis looks for his microscope to read the chips part number.
  • [22:38:56] <djlewis> prpplague: i have also found i2c chips on tv tuner/video cards.
  • [22:40:04] <prpplague> djlewis: yea but those may be connected to the onboard devices and not nessarily available to the system
  • [22:40:07] <nemik> djlewis: which $9 m3 boards?
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  • [22:41:59] <djlewis> nemik: stm evolution or something like comes to mind, a recent promo
  • [22:42:41] <djlewis> prpplague: i agree, i kinda determined that as the i2c chip was off a dsp chip
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  • [22:47:51] <djlewis> nemik: i cant locate it but i got a email from STMicroelectrronics (st.com) pushing a new Discovery product.
  • [22:47:58] <djlewis> It wasnt much
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  • [22:57:44] <funkster> very newb question. what would i look into if i want to wire buttons up to the beagleboard so when pressed it does specific actions in the OS
  • [22:58:14] <jay6981> gpio
  • [22:58:49] <funkster> ok let me research that
  • [22:59:26] <funkster> is still all covered under "embedded linux systems" so I can read up on it in general along with other things i dont know about
  • [22:59:27] <djlewis> bbsrm, the board has two switches already
  • [23:00:49] <funkster> awesome - so i can write a program so look at where that data writes to and perform a function, in a nut shell?
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  • [23:05:00] <mranostay> who
  • [23:05:11] <mranostay> er -EWRONGCHANNEL
  • [23:05:22] <nemik> djlewis: cool thanks, i'll take a look at those. beeing liking the mbed a lot
  • [23:09:07] <djlewis> nemik: i thought about mbed but I dont care for their locked into their web dev thing
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  • [23:15:59] <jstearns74> I have a BBT ULCD that I would like to use with my Beagle-XM. Right now I am using a serial interface to my laptop. The ULCD works great with the image shipped from Circuitco, but I would like to create a new image using Narcissus. How do I enable the ULCD using Narcissus?
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  • [23:23:17] <djlewis> and just why would I want to give my mobile phone number to google?
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  • [23:25:28] <mranostay> djlewis: password recovery
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  • [23:25:48] <djlewis> i'm not convinced
  • [23:26:30] <djlewis> i had an interesting experience with my online mortgage company last night.
  • [23:26:50] <Russ> you mortgaged your internets?
  • [23:26:53] <djlewis> I couldnt get the correct username/password and took the send it to me option.
  • [23:27:22] <djlewis> And the questions it was asking me to answer were not the ones I answered when I created the account.
  • [23:27:46] <mranostay> -EPARANOID
  • [23:27:52] <djlewis> Russ: if there is money in it I am for it :)
  • [23:28:21] <Russ> djlewis, did you still get them right?
  • [23:28:26] <djlewis> hehe
  • [23:28:46] <djlewis> i played the game but no proze
  • [23:28:52] <djlewis> prize
  • [23:29:27] <djlewis> I did it again this morning and I was asked the correct questions and I got in.
  • [23:31:17] <mranostay> djlewis: my favorite is with my bank asking questions for verification based on my credit report. "where does XYZ (relative i haven't seen in years) own property at?" :)
  • [23:31:50] <djlewis> mranostay: your bank must be using the powers of google ;)
  • [23:32:30] <Russ> mranostay, property ownership is public record...
  • [23:32:37] <nemik> djlewis: i agree, don't like it much either but other than being online, it's pretty damn good. and real easy to get started with
  • [23:33:11] <Russ> I usually use pwgen to answer security questions
  • [23:33:16] <djlewis> nemik: even the stm32 Discovery at $11 is a good start and you can use linux or windoze
  • [23:33:25] <Russ> what is your favorite food: ahDahj4A
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  • [23:33:55] <djlewis> Russ: yeah, sure, i'm gonna remember those after a slept since then moment.
  • [23:34:04] <Russ> djlewis, but them in your password store
  • [23:34:15] <djlewis> under my keyboard ?
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  • [23:34:50] <djlewis> just kidding, but i have found so many written right on peoples keyboards
  • [23:35:20] <Russ> lemein!
  • [23:35:51] <Russ> if I'm lazy and it lets me make a security question, sometimes I'll do, 'what is your password?'
  • [23:38:24] <mranostay> Russ: yes i usually do 'Good luck guessing'
  • [23:38:34] <djlewis> well, i'm gonna head to my home on the mountain :)
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  • [23:42:57] <unsolo> bah getting OTG going when i based my board file on board-omap3evm wasn't exactly trivial
  • [23:43:06] <unsolo> now im only stuck in b_idle when in HOST mode
  • [23:44:17] <unsolo> and aparently doing an echo "" into that musb driver doesnt do jack shit in 2.6.34
  • [23:46:05] <unsolo> i guess b_idle > a_idle xD
  • [23:47:35] <Russ> that is awesome! NETFILTER_XT_TARGET_LED
  • [23:47:41] <Russ> blinken lights for all!
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  • [23:50:46] <unsolo> simple question on usb otg.. should the device be defined as OTG or HOST in the board file. (if you want it to be a host)
  • [23:51:05] <unsolo> lets asume we are on a beagle.. roughly the same arch anyways
  • [23:51:13] <ds2> whatever is consistant with the hardware.
  • [23:51:43] <unsolo> ds2: was that to me ?
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  • [23:54:09] <ds2> i speak to the ethernet
  • [23:54:15] <unsolo> hehe
  • [23:54:34] <unsolo> well fact of the matter is that otg on beagle can operate in 3 states
  • [23:54:44] <unsolo> gadget otg and host
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  • [23:55:14] <unsolo> (independant of hw iirc)
  • [23:55:19] <ds2> no
  • [23:55:37] <unsolo> well what you connect externally on the otg desides that
  • [23:55:55] <ds2> no always
  • [23:55:57] <ds2> not
  • [23:56:23] <unsolo> ds2: you can solder pin5 to gnd and that should give you host mode right ?
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  • [23:56:35] <unsolo> err ping 4-5 together..
  • [23:56:46] <ds2> possibly
  • [23:56:58] <ds2> but soldering is a _HW_ issue
  • [23:59:04] <unsolo> anyhow lets asume i have the musb driver (from 2.6.34) and my vbus is a nc (controlled in a separate gpio that supplies 5V) and my id is grounded