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  • [01:50:37] <Guest40852> Hi
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  • [02:03:28] <etheretic1> wozzit?
  • [02:09:44] <etheretic1> awoogah.'
  • [02:10:35] <etheretic1> < drunk as a skunk -O
  • [02:11:04] <etheretic1> what*s new.
  • [02:12:17] <ka6sox> nothing you will remember in the morning
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  • [02:18:03] <jay6981> i've never met a drunk skunk
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  • [03:11:27] <mrenouf> Can anyone explain what these kernel messages mean: http://pastebin.com/Y51VsNwj (BeagleBone / omap_mux_init)
  • [03:12:03] <mrenouf> and what's an 'fck'
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  • [04:27:31] <bugeler> I need help installing Ubuntu
  • [04:27:37] <bugeler> it does not boot up
  • [04:28:52] <bugeler> hello
  • [04:29:46] <bugeler> T___________________________________________________________________________________________________T
  • [04:31:19] <TheAlphaNerd> I dunno if that is the way to get help
  • [04:31:23] <TheAlphaNerd> :p
  • [04:31:43] <TheAlphaNerd> are you using the wiki instructions
  • [04:31:45] <TheAlphaNerd> ?
  • [04:31:49] <bugeler> what do you mean?
  • [04:32:10] <bugeler> anyway i got the omap3 image and flashed it
  • [04:32:28] <bugeler> I have rev c....do I need to do anything more
  • [04:33:40] <bugeler> ?
  • [04:33:53] <TheAlphaNerd> you got it from the ubuntu site?
  • [04:35:50] <bugeler> yes
  • [04:36:29] <bugeler> do I need a serial port or can i just use hdmi?
  • [04:37:21] <TheAlphaNerd> you can use hdi
  • [04:37:30] <TheAlphaNerd> although I suggest using an image not directly from ubuntu
  • [04:37:43] <TheAlphaNerd> you'll need to do a lot of tinkering to get everything working
  • [04:37:48] <TheAlphaNerd> and there are demo images available
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  • [04:38:24] <bugeler> I tried the demo image from rcn-ee.net ...that hasn't worked either
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  • [04:39:29] <TheAlphaNerd> reary
  • [04:39:30] <TheAlphaNerd> hmm
  • [04:39:36] <TheAlphaNerd> mac / pc / linux ?
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  • [04:51:29] <ricky_marcus> if i am running linux on my BBXM and i would like to see the processing consumption by the DSP what command can i issue?
  • [04:51:44] <ricky_marcus> top
  • [04:51:46] <ricky_marcus> df
  • [04:52:03] <ricky_marcus> i know those tell me the CPU but i would like to know the DSP
  • [04:52:13] <TheAlphaNerd> ricky_marcus: sudo apt-get install htop
  • [04:52:17] <TheAlphaNerd> I like htop better
  • [04:52:41] <TheAlphaNerd> ricky_marcus: which distro are you running where dsp works well?
  • [04:53:06] <ricky_marcus> Angstrom
  • [04:53:22] <ricky_marcus> i am running OpenGL
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  • [04:54:07] <TheAlphaNerd> ahhh
  • [04:54:11] <ricky_marcus> from what i understand, OpenGL sends everything to the DSP
  • [04:54:20] <TheAlphaNerd> I tried angstrom??? ouldn't get puredata to compile properly on it
  • [04:54:22] <ricky_marcus> im sorry
  • [04:54:24] <ricky_marcus> GPU
  • [04:55:03] <ricky_marcus> Puredata....never heard of it sorry
  • [04:55:08] <ricky_marcus> wish i could help
  • [04:56:48] <TheAlphaNerd> its all good
  • [04:57:00] <TheAlphaNerd> puredata is a visual programming language for doing dsp stuff
  • [04:57:03] <TheAlphaNerd> synthesis
  • [04:57:12] <TheAlphaNerd> as well as abstracting lots of other computing shit
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  • [04:59:18] <ricky_marcus> hmmmm interesting
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  • [05:00:20] <TheAlphaNerd> free software version of another language called max/msp
  • [05:00:29] <TheAlphaNerd> it can do all sorts of openGL shit too
  • [05:00:37] <TheAlphaNerd> using a package called gem
  • [05:01:11] <TheAlphaNerd> angstrom was awesome out of the box??? but their repository is missing a lot of packages I need for the dsp stuff??? and I couldn't find any documentation on making new packages
  • [05:01:18] <TheAlphaNerd> plus sudo was acting all weird
  • [05:01:36] <ricky_marcus> sudo
  • [05:01:37] <ricky_marcus> ???
  • [05:01:40] <ricky_marcus> on angstrom
  • [05:01:42] <ricky_marcus> ???
  • [05:01:51] <TheAlphaNerd> I don't like kicking about in root
  • [05:02:13] <ricky_marcus> but i though in Angstrom you dont use sudo
  • [05:02:32] <ricky_marcus> when you login you use "root" username
  • [05:02:42] <ricky_marcus> also have you heard of openembedded
  • [05:02:45] <ricky_marcus> ???
  • [05:02:49] <ricky_marcus> it is the best
  • [05:02:59] <ricky_marcus> creates all the packages for you
  • [05:04:19] <TheAlphaNerd> yeah I have
  • [05:04:22] <TheAlphaNerd> I was using narcissisus
  • [05:04:27] <TheAlphaNerd> but its similar
  • [05:04:50] <TheAlphaNerd> you cna login as root in any distro and not use sudo
  • [05:04:59] <TheAlphaNerd> the idea with sudo is to not be prancing about the box as root
  • [05:05:08] <TheAlphaNerd> so that if you try to change things you have to think twice
  • [05:05:55] <ricky_marcus> true
  • [05:06:34] <ricky_marcus> I never though about that.....narcissisus and openembedded
  • [05:06:53] <ricky_marcus> Is there a connection between Narcissisus and Openembedded
  • [05:07:09] <ricky_marcus> Let me guess Narcissisus uses openembedded
  • [05:08:28] <TheAlphaNerd> I believe it does
  • [05:08:31] <TheAlphaNerd> I think it is built on top
  • [05:08:48] <ricky_marcus> Wow i learned something
  • [05:10:54] <TheAlphaNerd> ha
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  • [05:26:31] <ricky_marcus> Can you run both OpenGL and OpenCV both at the same time on the Beagleboard??
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  • [05:31:55] <scromp> what you do with gl is your own choice
  • [05:33:05] <ricky_marcus> Thanks scromp for replying
  • [05:33:35] <scromp> what i mean is that there is no implicit tax for having gl involved
  • [05:33:52] <scromp> it's basically up to you
  • [05:33:55] <ricky_marcus> I guess i would like to know if the Beagleboard has enough processing power to handle it.
  • [05:34:16] <scromp> handle what?
  • [05:34:38] <ricky_marcus> Run both OpenGL and OpenCV at the same time
  • [05:34:49] <scromp> ..
  • [05:35:19] <kapu__> if quake works that's enough
  • [05:35:27] <scromp> yes. it can do both.
  • [05:36:04] <scromp> but it might not be able to run your code effectively
  • [05:37:07] <ricky_marcus> What i would like to do is create a 3d object using OpenGL and paste that object to using OpenCV
  • [05:37:28] <ricky_marcus> Scromp have you done this before
  • [05:37:34] <ricky_marcus> ??
  • [05:37:34] <scromp> no
  • [05:37:57] <ricky_marcus> Do you have experience with OpenGL or OpenCV??
  • [05:38:17] <scromp> yes
  • [05:38:24] <ricky_marcus> Both???
  • [05:38:54] <scromp> only barely opencv.. but it is irrelevant to your questions which are too amorphous to really answer
  • [05:39:29] <ricky_marcus> If i am not mistaken... OpenGL runs on the SGX/GPU
  • [05:39:52] <ricky_marcus> also if i am not mistaken, OpenCV runs on the CPU
  • [05:40:09] <ricky_marcus> so that, at least i think, gives me a chance
  • [05:40:37] <scromp> even if they all ran on the same cpu *it depends on what you are doing with them*
  • [05:40:49] <TheAlphaNerd> so is anyone playing with linaro?
  • [05:41:01] <ricky_marcus> me
  • [05:41:10] <TheAlphaNerd> and you have dsp working?????
  • [05:41:15] <TheAlphaNerd> did you say that earlier?
  • [05:41:33] <ricky_marcus> Well i am working with linaro
  • [05:41:35] <ricky_marcus> sorry
  • [05:41:48] <ricky_marcus> i used it to get android ice cream S....
  • [05:42:04] <ricky_marcus> sorry
  • [05:44:29] <TheAlphaNerd> but is your dsp working?
  • [05:44:36] <TheAlphaNerd> sound input and output?
  • [05:44:38] <ricky_marcus> yes
  • [05:44:46] <ricky_marcus> wait
  • [05:44:48] <ricky_marcus> sorry
  • [05:44:53] <ricky_marcus> i dont use the DSP
  • [05:44:58] <ricky_marcus> sorry
  • [05:45:24] <TheAlphaNerd> all god
  • [05:45:29] <TheAlphaNerd> what do you use android for?
  • [05:45:53] <ricky_marcus> Does anybody know if OpenCV does in fact run on the the Beagleboards DSP????
  • [05:46:12] <ricky_marcus> I have designed a Kinect app
  • [05:46:25] <ricky_marcus> that app runs on android ICS
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  • [05:48:45] <TheAlphaNerd> oh I'm working withthe kinect too
  • [05:48:59] <TheAlphaNerd> openCV now makes sense
  • [05:49:04] <TheAlphaNerd> have you tried openni?
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  • [05:50:14] <ricky_marcus> Yes
  • [05:50:20] <ricky_marcus> that is what i am using
  • [05:50:35] <ricky_marcus> i have used one of there apps and modified it
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  • [05:50:47] <ricky_marcus> i guess i should say i did not write an app
  • [05:50:55] <Geminizer> clear
  • [05:50:56] <ricky_marcus> i modified an app
  • [05:50:57] <ricky_marcus> lol
  • [05:51:07] <TheAlphaNerd> c++?
  • [05:51:15] <ricky_marcus> both
  • [05:51:16] <TheAlphaNerd> have you heard of openframeworks?
  • [05:51:42] <Geminizer> Hello all. Would anyone know how to install fedora 15 on a beagleboard xM ?
  • [05:51:47] <ricky_marcus> no
  • [05:52:48] <TheAlphaNerd> you should use it
  • [05:53:12] <ricky_marcus> i am looking at it as we speak
  • [05:53:57] <TheAlphaNerd> its a framework for doing this kind of stuff
  • [05:54:05] <TheAlphaNerd> toolkit I guess
  • [05:54:12] <ricky_marcus> wow
  • [05:54:17] <ricky_marcus> i never heard of it
  • [05:54:20] <ricky_marcus> i like it
  • [05:55:16] <ricky_marcus> i wish i would have talked you you about 4 months ago
  • [05:55:28] <ricky_marcus> its exactly what we need
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  • [05:56:57] <ricky_marcus> do you think the Beagleboard has enough power to run it
  • [05:57:41] <ricky_marcus> ??
  • [05:57:52] <TheAlphaNerd> i dunno
  • [05:57:59] <TheAlphaNerd> more like can you get it to work
  • [05:58:00] <TheAlphaNerd> :D
  • [05:58:08] <ricky_marcus> lol
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  • [07:11:27] <ricky_marcus> ???
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  • [07:19:43] <ricky_marcus> Beagleboard
  • [07:19:52] <ricky_marcus> if you want to know the DSP processing usage on a Beagleboard that is running Angstrom......what would be the command
  • [07:19:56] <ricky_marcus> ??
  • [07:20:39] <kapu__> there is no such command
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  • [07:22:03] <ricky_marcus> Really
  • [07:22:42] <ricky_marcus> so like for the CPU i use top or ps
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  • [07:23:31] <ricky_marcus> how can we tell if we are overloading the DSP??\
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  • [07:24:14] <kapu__> dunno
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  • [07:26:09] <_av500_> ricky_marcus: overloading the dsp by doing what?
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  • [07:26:16] <_av500_> how are you using the dsp?
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  • [07:26:58] <ricky_marcus> havent really started using it....but i am about to start on a project that could potentially use the DSP
  • [07:27:17] <ricky_marcus> and i was curious as to the command
  • [07:27:20] <_av500_> so you dsp usage is 0%
  • [07:27:25] <_av500_> your
  • [07:27:35] <_av500_> the command is: "echo "0%"
  • [07:27:37] <hitlin37> ricky_marcus:this link has dsp load ...but see if it actually works:http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/dsp-tools
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  • [07:28:07] <_av500_> hitlin37: yes, but that is dsp framework specific
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  • [07:32:01] <ricky_marcus> _av500: thanks
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  • [07:32:07] <ricky_marcus> that really helped
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  • [07:39:36] <_av500_> ricky_marcus: worry about dsp load once you get there
  • [07:39:40] <multiplex> i think is possible but because of i 'm newbie in linux embedded i've a question ?
  • [07:41:07] <multiplex> is it possible to manage an 7 ports usb with the usb host and (linux)? (this is the question)
  • [07:42:20] <TheAlphaNerd> he'll have to get dsp working on linaro first :P
  • [07:42:29] <kapu__> I finally installed CCS5 and wait eagerly to load some binaries
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  • [07:43:18] <TheAlphaNerd> CCS5 ?
  • [07:43:33] <kapu__> code composer studion version 5
  • [07:46:38] <Dioxin_> if you can do it in Linux, its highly likely you can do it in embedded linux too
  • [07:46:54] <kapu__> I am also going to try OpenOCD this weekend
  • [07:47:29] <TheAlphaNerd> code composer??? what do you do with code composer?
  • [07:47:40] <multiplex> thank so i can do it
  • [07:47:50] <kapu__> maybe stydy some register values
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  • [07:48:27] <kapu__> which could help to get OpenOCD to issue halt to A8
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  • [08:02:09] <multiplex> so it's possible and i hope i can do it :)
  • [08:02:29] <multiplex> i'm going to order one
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  • [10:09:20] <perter-jim> hi av500
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  • [11:55:23] <kate123> how can i enable the network on my beaglebone it didn't start automaticly
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  • [12:08:42] <snaakje> any1 going to embedded-world.eu end of the month?
  • [12:09:19] <snaakje> any1 going to embedded-world.eu end of the month?
  • [12:09:30] <av500> maybe
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  • [12:41:28] <koen> snaakje: LetoThe2nd and I will be there by the looks of it
  • [12:41:49] <snaakje> trying to find a place to sleep. seems to be pretty full already :(
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  • [13:31:13] <Pratik> hello
  • [13:31:36] <Pratik> I have problem with aac encoding in container,
  • [13:32:09] <Pratik> anybody tried with aacheenc -> qtmux, flvmux
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  • [13:32:37] <Pratik> ?
  • [13:36:00] <av500> and this is beagle related how?
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  • [13:40:13] <Pratik> yes
  • [13:40:24] <Pratik> I am on dm3730
  • [13:41:06] <Pratik> I want to encapsulate h264 + aac in flv or qt
  • [13:41:19] <Pratik> but only video is working
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  • [13:41:42] <Pratik> I found that codec_data field is missing in tiaudenc1.c
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  • [14:23:15] <jkridner> koen: is mkfs.ext2 no longer in e2fsprogs?
  • [14:24:21] <jkridner> e2fsprogs-mke2fs doesn't seem to be in the angstrom feed.
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  • [14:31:19] <koen> jkridner: not sure
  • [14:31:43] <koen> e2fsprogs-mke2fs_1.42-r2_armv7a.ipk
  • [14:31:52] <koen> should be in the feeds
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  • [14:39:06] <smh> did anybody able to make the SPI work in BeagleBone?
  • [14:39:14] <jsabeaudry> smh, yes
  • [14:39:32] <smh> jsabeaudry: could you please provide me little bit direction?
  • [14:39:51] <jsabeaudry> smh, You want spidev?
  • [14:40:04] <smh> yes .. we did not find the driver in our kernel
  • [14:40:56] <jsabeaudry> smh, First you gotta pathc your kernel to create some spidev devices, here is an example patch http://pastebin.ca/2097986
  • [14:41:09] <smh> Ok ..
  • [14:41:26] <jsabeaudry> smh, then you make sure the spidev driver is compiled with your kernel
  • [14:41:41] <jsabeaudry> smh, if you choose to compile it as a module dont forget to modprobe it
  • [14:42:04] <smh> Ok ..
  • [14:42:12] <jsabeaudry> smh, I suggest you just compile it as part of your kernel
  • [14:42:39] <jsabeaudry> smh, boot that and et voila! /dev/spidevX.X devices!
  • [14:42:54] <smh> that's it ? great
  • [14:43:16] <smh> jsabeaudry: I will try it soon
  • [14:44:08] <smh> jsabeaudry: thanks for your help ... if I cannot make it .. will it be possible to contact u personally to get your input ? or I will find you here?
  • [14:44:26] <jsabeaudry> took me around 3 days but that's because I had never patched a kernel or worked with OE
  • [14:45:57] <jsabeaudry> This channel is very helpful
  • [14:46:03] <smh> Ok ... thank you
  • [14:46:10] <jsabeaudry> a week ago I was in your situation and others helped me
  • [14:46:23] <jsabeaudry> so I pay it forward
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  • [15:00:26] <xenoxaos> Has anyone done anything with the PRUs yet?
  • [15:03:41] <ka6sox> waiting for assembler.
  • [15:03:56] <ka6sox> (drums fingers on table)
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  • [15:06:01] <xenoxaos> those seem like they could be really useful
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  • [15:11:46] <Geminizer> Hello all. Has anyone successfully installed fedora 15 on a BeagleBoard XM?
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  • [15:33:26] <dwery> xenoxaos: isn't the assembler for PRUv1 usable (minus some new features) ?
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  • [15:34:23] <xenoxaos> i dunno, havent done a whole lot of embedded programming
  • [15:34:37] <dwery> :)
  • [15:34:38] <dwery> bbl
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  • [16:08:44] <snaakje> anyone got an idea why my samsung syncmaster 245e won't work as a display for the beagleboard? Cable is right, as in: its fits on both ends, hdmi-wise.
  • [16:09:05] <snaakje> when i turn the beagle on, the screen turns orange for 5 seconds then goes black.
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  • [16:10:29] <thurbad> orange is correct if depending on your MLO
  • [16:11:00] <thurbad> what happens on the serial port?
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  • [16:19:26] <snaakje> MLO?
  • [16:19:49] <snaakje> ok, gonna check serial port. if i can find the proper cable (amongst the 30000 cables I have lying about).
  • [16:20:13] <snaakje> that beagleboard is too small. it's lost :)
  • [16:20:22] <koen> does you kernel have DSI PLL support?
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  • [16:21:51] <snaakje> it's out of the box from tigal.
  • [16:22:11] <snaakje> never mind.
  • [16:22:16] <snaakje> brb
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  • [16:26:02] <snaakje> grrrr.
  • [16:26:19] <snaakje> thought i had the wrong sd card in it. but no, it's the right one.
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  • [16:27:46] <snaakje> if the orange is normal then it's not a prob. with that monitor which i thought was the case.
  • [16:28:04] <snaakje> i'll go RTFM, sorry ;)
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  • [16:29:37] <thurbad> snaakje: is this an xM or a classic beagleboard??
  • [16:29:43] <snaakje> classic.
  • [16:29:57] <snaakje> i need to RTFM some more.
  • [16:30:22] <thurbad> if it's classic try holding down the user button when it's starting to boot
  • [16:30:24] <snaakje> don't even know if it only boots from sd or also has some sort of NAND-whatever memory on which a kernel etc. is stored.
  • [16:30:27] <muriani> LURK MOAR
  • [16:30:31] <snaakje> :)
  • [16:30:32] <muriani> I kid, I kid.
  • [16:30:43] <snaakje> yeah, i will go sit in a corner now and RTFM.
  • [16:31:14] * snaakje is gonna look for da user button.
  • [16:31:20] <muriani> I need to fire off a beagle build now that I have a seemingly working oe-core build setup
  • [16:31:24] <av500> there is only 2 buttons
  • [16:31:36] <av500> one is labeled "reset"
  • [16:31:39] <thurbad> and one is reset
  • [16:31:39] <snaakje> but they're so small for my old eyes :)
  • [16:31:42] <Daniel_> Can
  • [16:31:46] <av500> CAN
  • [16:33:00] * snaakje should be drinking now, weekend has begun.
  • [16:33:03] <Daniel_> Can you run Android ICS on the Beagleboard XM?
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  • [16:45:32] <Daniel_> Anyone
  • [16:45:48] <av500> if you port it, yes
  • [16:46:57] <av500> and http://review.omapzoom.org/#change,18986 seems to indicate that TI is working on ICS for omap3
  • [16:49:01] <Daniel_> My understanding is that the old Beagleboard used a omap processor but the new Beagleboard-XM uses a DaVinci processor.....DM3730
  • [16:49:08] <Daniel_> Is it it hard to port it
  • [16:49:19] <Daniel_> Lets suppose i am a one man team
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  • [16:51:39] <mdp> Russ, thanks, will see you at ELC
  • [16:52:06] <Russ> thanks!
  • [16:53:14] <muriani> yeah, there's a few android phones that would probably run ICS alright
  • [16:53:21] <muriani> er, omap3 android phones
  • [16:53:30] <mdp> ok, anybody know if xM usb worked on a mainline 3.2.x off-hand?
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  • [16:54:12] <etheretic> erk
  • [16:54:55] <koen> mdp: iirc the patches went in, but it might have been broken again in 3.1
  • [16:55:46] <thurbad> dm3730 vs omap3530.. same line different prefiix for marketing
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  • [17:00:20] * mranostay waves
  • [17:00:40] <Daniel_> thanks thurbad and av500
  • [17:01:10] * mranostay checks clock
  • [17:01:35] <Daniel_> Another question. If got a kernel that was meant to run on the original Beagleboard. Can that same kernel run on the Beagleboard XM?
  • [17:02:06] <Daniel_> I did try it....but i lose internet connection
  • [17:02:15] <mranostay> Daniel_: if the machine option is set (i think)
  • [17:02:37] <Daniel_> i wondered if it has something to do with that
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  • [17:04:16] <Daniel_> when i try configuring the internet....in other words i run ifconfig command i see that my nic card is not detected
  • [17:04:28] <Daniel_> when i try to load the driver....i notice that the driver is missing
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  • [17:11:23] <Daniel_> This is what i do. I create a image from narcissus. Although i keep the filesystem. i replace the kernel. When i boot up the board. i dont have internelt. I have noticed that it is beacause i dont have the nic driver loaded. When i try to load the driver...i get an error. It says that the driver is meant for the original kernel
  • [17:12:32] <mdp> koen, kicked off a 3.2.x build/boot test..we'll see
  • [17:12:54] <mdp> it's difficult to call things regressions if they've just been neglected for an eternity
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  • [17:23:26] <jkridner__> av500: isn't ICS already done on omap3: http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/ICSonBeagleboard_WithSGX
  • [17:25:07] <Crofton_> mru, how was the Tide House
  • [17:25:27] <mru> beer was good
  • [17:25:39] <koen> what's the weather like?
  • [17:25:45] * koen is packing his suitcase
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  • [17:25:49] <mru> koen: reasonable
  • [17:26:20] <koen> between 10 and 20 degrees C?
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  • [17:26:33] <mru> something like that
  • [17:26:40] <Crofton_> yeah
  • [17:26:47] <Crofton_> not like Brussels
  • [17:26:53] <Crofton_> beer is important
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  • [17:30:12] <koen> I'm counting on at least 2 t shirts at ELC
  • [17:30:33] <_av500_> jkridner__: all the better
  • [17:32:48] <prpplague> koen: hehe, funny
  • [17:33:18] <prpplague> koen: i just went to the concierge and picked up two shirts for ELC
  • [17:35:02] <koen> prpplague: ditch the red shirts if you want to avoid more posts about your impending doom
  • [17:35:27] * prpplague purchased a red TI shirt
  • [17:35:41] <prpplague> koen: should i go get a blue one?
  • [17:35:50] <koen> they make you pay for those?
  • [17:36:06] <koen> over here they have to bribe people into wearing them
  • [17:37:05] <koen> black polo shirts ftw
  • [17:37:32] <prpplague> koen: hehe yea i grabbed a black one as well
  • [17:37:38] <prpplague> koen: was iffy about the blue one
  • [17:37:56] <prpplague> hmm
  • [17:38:09] <prpplague> seems someone has borrowed my flyswatter2 from my desk......
  • [17:38:16] <koen> prpplague: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(character)
  • [17:39:01] <prpplague> koen: yea, i knew what you were referring to, hehe
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  • [17:51:41] <mranostay> prpplague: purchased a vendor shirt?
  • [17:51:55] <mranostay> does not compute
  • [17:52:20] <prpplague> mranostay: employer shirt
  • [17:52:35] <_av500_> compules even less
  • [17:52:40] <_av500_> +t
  • [17:52:41] <mranostay> er they didnt give you one?
  • [17:53:35] * prpplague is a contractor and doesn't get all the gee-whiz benefits
  • [17:53:47] <mru> you get all the money instead
  • [17:53:56] <mru> in my experience that's much more useful
  • [17:54:02] <mranostay> i never wore a employer polo since it seems by default they pick large for you. :)
  • [17:54:13] <mru> +1
  • [17:54:18] * _av500_ never wears any polo
  • [17:54:25] <TheAlphaNerd> marco?
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  • [17:54:39] <TheAlphaNerd> so I managed to get the tidspbridge kernel modules compiled into a new kernel last night, and installed the dsp binaries on my beagleboard xm??? but I'm having some trouble getting alsa to work??? more detail at https://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/5b8f0227c7386e46
  • [17:54:49] <TheAlphaNerd> I'm working with linaro fwiw
  • [17:54:52] <mranostay> lucky i've never worked anywhere with a formal dress code :)
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  • [17:55:07] <mru> I refuse to work anywhere with formal dress code
  • [17:55:33] * mranostay has a hate for dress shirts
  • [17:55:45] <_av500_> TheAlphaNerd: what has alsa to do with dsp?
  • [17:56:11] <TheAlphaNerd> alsa being the driver that interfaces the dsp with jack (which is what I would like to eventually have working)
  • [17:56:25] <_av500_> dsp? jack?
  • [17:56:28] <prpplague> _av500_: i suspect you never wear polo shirts because you can't find one that will fit you, hehe.... you have to shop at the big and extra extra extra tall store?
  • [17:56:32] <TheAlphaNerd> specifically want to get alsamixer working to test out all the dsp stuff
  • [17:56:41] <TheAlphaNerd> audio stuffs
  • [17:57:10] <muriani> blaaaargh.
  • [17:57:15] <muriani> ERROR: Could not include required file recipes-images/angstrom/systemd-image.bb
  • [17:57:34] <mdp> prpplague, like the generous pension plan? :P
  • [17:57:45] <muriani> anyone else still having this issue? Trying to build for classic beagleboard and I can't seem to get past this.
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  • [17:58:02] <prpplague> mdp: hehe
  • [17:58:49] <prpplague> _av500_: i have to wonder if you were tall as a child or did it all happen over the summer one year, hehe
  • [17:58:56] <muriani> oh
  • [17:58:58] <muriani> never mind
  • [17:59:00] <muriani> goddamnit.
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  • [18:04:03] <TonyWatertown> Hi. Silly question: How do I subscribe to the google groups mailing list? I've tried subscribing at beagleboard.org, but that redirects me to a page informing me that "The owner of the group has banned you from this group." Mind you, I've never subscribed to the group before. Thanks!
  • [18:07:05] <_av500_> we banned you preemptively :)
  • [18:07:12] <_av500_> jkridner__: pls fix: ^^^^^^
  • [18:07:33] <jkridner__> k. :)
  • [18:07:36] <mranostay> prpplague: is that the punchline? :P
  • [18:07:38] <jkridner__> TonyWatertown: please message me your e-mail address.
  • [18:08:10] <jkridner__> TonyWatertown: if you happen to have what info you provided when you attempted to subscribe, that might be interesting.
  • [18:10:10] <TonyWatertown> jkridner__: The only info I supplied was my email address in the text box at the beagleboard.org support page (and then I hit submit).
  • [18:10:23] <jkridner__> interesting.
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  • [18:10:47] <jkridner__> realistically, to join now you need to provide a bit of text.
  • [18:11:00] <jkridner__> I wonder if I should make it a bit easier to join so those boxes really work.
  • [18:11:07] <jkridner__> but, you shouldn't have been banned.
  • [18:11:22] <jkridner__> we have multiple people doing the approvals, so it can get messy at times...
  • [18:11:38] <jkridner__> many requests per day and I try really hard to keep the spam down.
  • [18:11:39] <prpplague> mranostay: ??
  • [18:11:54] <jkridner__> (though some would consider the some of the people I do let talk spam. :) )
  • [18:12:36] <TonyWatertown> No problem. I understand the need to keep the riff-raff out. ;-)
  • [18:12:37] <mranostay> jkridner__: not saying names? :)
  • [18:12:58] <TonyWatertown> Another question: Can anyone point me to a resource that I may use to understand how to use the watchdog timer on the XM?
  • [18:12:58] <koen> mranostay: there's a README in meta-ti, follow it
  • [18:13:15] <mranostay> what am i following? :)
  • [18:14:57] <koen> drat
  • [18:14:58] <_av500_> jkridner__: you should ban trolls too
  • [18:15:06] <koen> muriani: mranostay: there's a README in meta-ti, follow it
  • [18:15:11] <jkridner__> TonyWatertown: I'm looking for your new request...
  • [18:15:15] <jkridner__> ping me when you send it.
  • [18:15:16] <koen> sigh
  • [18:15:26] * koen shouldn't be allowed on the internet when having a cold
  • [18:15:42] <jkridner__> _av500_: I know, I know, but what fun would you have with your troll101 training then?
  • [18:16:09] <denix> koen: is that your excuse? :)
  • [18:16:25] <koen> denix: this week it is
  • [18:16:42] <denix> ah, and what was last week? :)
  • [18:16:42] <mdp> koen, fwiw, works in 3.2.5???it's a hwmod regression
  • [18:16:46] <muriani> koen: I said nevermind, fixed it :P
  • [18:16:50] <koen> jkridner__: I've packed my "professional troll" shirt
  • [18:16:58] <denix> I know what excuse would be next week though :)
  • [18:17:12] <muriani> My coffee isn't working this morning.
  • [18:17:29] <koen> next week is "denix incapicated me with some russian martial arts"
  • [18:17:59] <koen> mdp: I'm tempted to drop default baudrate to 57600 on beagles
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  • [18:18:46] <mranostay> _av500_: aren't we all trolls to someone? :)
  • [18:19:15] <mdp> koen, go to 300 so we can follow along instead of using scrollback
  • [18:19:40] <koen> mdp: is 300 a multiple of the magic corruption timeout as well?
  • [18:20:14] <jkridner__> TonyWatertown: k, you're in!
  • [18:20:43] <mdp> koen, likely, but mostly it's a happy speed from fond memories
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  • [18:21:42] <koen> mdp: you do know an omap is just a ppc core with qemu running on it, right?
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  • [18:21:53] <mdp> I've heard rumors
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  • [18:21:56] <mranostay> koen: 57600. 115200 have stablity issues?
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  • [18:22:32] <koen> mranostay: with cpuidle enable some bits get corrupted
  • [18:22:48] <koen> mranostay: 57600 seems to be the speed where the corrupt char gets discarded
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  • [18:22:54] <koen> instead of messing up your terminal
  • [18:23:30] <koen> mranostay: if you have an hour or so, there's a lovely thread with RMK stating how broken everything is and the skies are falling down
  • [18:23:47] <mranostay> link? :)
  • [18:23:52] <mranostay> lunch hour reading :)
  • [18:24:23] <thurbad> preventing the serial port from sleeping fixes the corrupted bytes on the terminal
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  • [18:24:32] <koen> mranostay: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.serial/6970/
  • [18:24:41] <thurbad> which can be do in sysfs
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  • [18:25:06] <mranostay> how much power does the RS232 chip (i assume MAX232) use in 'idle'?
  • [18:25:09] <koen> thurbad: I do want to idle serial for powersaving
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  • [18:25:20] <thurbad> ah
  • [18:25:27] <koen> mranostay: internal omap ports and clocks
  • [18:25:41] <koen> mranostay: you can't go into deep idle with serial enabled
  • [18:26:00] * koen forgot the exact state, RET?
  • [18:26:03] <thurbad> our application never idles, so keeping the port alive is pretty inconsequential
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  • [18:28:43] <ka6sox> mranostay, you headed west anytime soon?
  • [18:29:01] <mranostay> ka6sox: heh i just moved to the Bay Area
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  • [18:29:28] <ka6sox> ha ha..okay so see you @ ELC?
  • [18:29:31] <thurbad> that's pretty west :P
  • [18:29:54] <ka6sox> thurbad, he's still in North America...I'm not
  • [18:30:17] <thurbad> ah
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  • [18:30:55] <mranostay> yep i'm going
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  • [18:34:31] <dwery> koen: maybe w should have spidev by default, if no cape touches that pins, I see many requests for spidev lately
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  • [18:37:02] <koen> dwery: indeed
  • [18:37:41] <koen> dwery: it does lead to a lot of "if no capes uses <foo>, then <bar>" code, but I guess we'll need to live with that
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  • [18:40:03] <_av500_> koen: define a default "invisicape"
  • [18:41:44] <dwery> koen: better with that that with endless questions on this channel :D
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  • [18:42:35] <koen> if someone wants to tackle that, please do
  • [18:42:50] <koen> there is an example present for the analog pins
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  • [18:51:03] <koen> jkridner__: those tins work great for capes as well
  • [18:51:18] <jkridner__> yeah, super for transport.
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  • [18:59:34] <dwery> koen: I'll see if I can come up with a patch
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  • [19:01:43] <koen> thanks!
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  • [19:03:18] <dwery> I'll make ti simple.. if no cape then invisicape
  • [19:03:30] <prp> Hello, i want to make a backup or disk image of the multi partitioned beagleboard's sd card. How do i do that? I see instructions at http://www.hanckmann.net/?q=node/19 but i dont know what to put for /dev/xxx
  • [19:04:12] <prp> i have ubuntu on the desktop, and the sd is inside an sd reader
  • [19:04:49] <thurbad> depends a little on your sd reader
  • [19:05:29] <prp> on the computer, i see /media/beagle and /media/angstorm when i plug in
  • [19:05:37] <thurbad> type 'mount' to see the physical location of the mounte partitions
  • [19:05:44] <prp> i dont know which /dev/xxx both of them together refer to
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  • [19:08:22] <prp> i have /dev/sdb2 on /media/angstorm ext3 and /dev/sdb1 on /media/beagle
  • [19:08:40] <thurbad> if they're like /dev/sdb2 umount them and use /dev/sdb
  • [19:09:04] <thurbad> generally don't use dd on mounted drives
  • [19:09:28] <prp> how do i unmount?
  • [19:09:45] <thurbad> sudo umount /dev/sdb1
  • [19:09:46] <prp> right click, eject?
  • [19:09:48] <prp> ok
  • [19:10:03] <thurbad> no if you eject you take out the /dev/ entry
  • [19:10:34] <prp> ok i did the unmount for botht he partitions
  • [19:11:56] <thurbad> where that post says hd_ use sdb
  • [19:12:02] <prp> do i just follow the instructions and use "sdb"
  • [19:12:06] <prp> alright, thanks
  • [19:12:51] <thurbad> actually you may want to forgo the gzip part
  • [19:13:06] <prp> ok
  • [19:13:37] <thurbad> go to the folder you want to save the image
  • [19:14:15] <prp> # sudo swapoff -a (2)# sudo dd if=/dev/sdb | beaglebackup.dd.gz ?
  • [19:14:16] <thurbad> and use sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=./<filename> bs=512KB
  • [19:14:23] <prp> ok
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  • [19:15:16] <thurbad> the default blocksize on an SD card takes forever so I use 512KB
  • [19:17:37] <prp> i am running it on a virtual machine of 10gb, and the sd card is 32gb. I dont see my host drives in /mnt, can i do anything?
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  • [19:18:32] <thurbad> have you shared any folders with the vm?
  • [19:19:11] <prp> no. i am running it on vmwareplayer. would i be able to set it up now
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  • [19:19:56] <thurbad> should be able to, as long as you have the vmware extensions installed in the guest OS
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  • [19:20:22] <prp> host os in win7, guest is ubuntu
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  • [19:22:16] * prpplague wonders what prp 's nick stands for.......
  • [19:22:54] <thurbad> I'm on a mac, so I don't have the host interface in front of me
  • [19:23:26] <prp> i'll set up. i think i just need to turn the vm off and on. it seems like i dont need to have vm tools installed. i am giving it a shot
  • [19:23:31] <thurbad> there should be something on the vmware player interfacethat says install vmware tools or something similar
  • [19:23:40] <prp> the options are disabled
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  • [19:24:25] <thurbad> lots of options are not available without vmware tools installed
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  • [19:25:33] <prp> Alright, i enabled shared folder, just waiting for ubuntu to boot up
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  • [19:25:55] <prp> it was just disabled when guest os was running
  • [19:26:06] <prp> prp is just my initials
  • [19:26:24] <prp> prpplague what does yours stand for
  • [19:28:39] <prp> so i shared a folder and it booted up. but where am i supposed to see the folder?
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  • [19:30:43] <jkridner> anyone seen this issue with mkfs.ext3: http://pastebin.com/k7tLRtBW
  • [19:31:30] <thurbad> are you looking in the /mnt directory?
  • [19:31:57] <mattzz> I'm not able to connect openocd 0.6.0 and a beagle bone. (http://pastebin.com/KRfgHXJS) can anybody help?
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  • [19:32:25] <prp> yes, nothing in /mnt
  • [19:32:34] <prp> its supposed to be in /mnt/hgfs
  • [19:32:53] <prp> http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_running_sharedfolder_viewing.html
  • [19:33:24] <thurbad> did you install the vmware tools?
  • [19:33:31] <prp> no
  • [19:33:31] <mattzz> jkridner: you are trying to make a files system on a device but not on a partition
  • [19:33:42] <jkridner> yes.
  • [19:33:53] <thurbad> folder sharing requires vmware tools on the guest
  • [19:33:54] <jkridner> the issue shows up if I use a partition or not.
  • [19:34:02] <prp> alright, i am on it
  • [19:34:24] <jkridner> mattzz: mdp had started looking at openocd, but I think he gave up.
  • [19:34:35] <mattzz> jkridner: what does frisk -l /dev/sda say?
  • [19:34:40] <jkridner> I'm not sure where the issue lies, but likely with icepick setup.
  • [19:35:00] <jkridner> frisk isn't in my distro
  • [19:35:12] <jkridner> do you mean fdisk?
  • [19:35:13] <mattzz> fdisk
  • [19:35:17] <mattzz> sorry...
  • [19:35:22] <mattzz> ;)
  • [19:35:29] <jkridner> it has a partition, but, again, it doesn't matter regarding the error...
  • [19:35:38] <jkridner> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 gives the same error.
  • [19:35:48] <jkridner> it might be marked as a fat partition though.
  • [19:36:05] <prp> when i click install vm tools, it says could not find component on update server...contact your sysadmin
  • [19:36:11] <jkridner> I want to just overwrite the partition table.
  • [19:36:22] <mattzz> ok, the symbol lookup error looks suspicous
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  • [19:36:50] <jkridner> deleting the partition didn't help.
  • [19:37:01] <jkridner> I'd guess that I have a dynamically linked library that is missing.
  • [19:37:02] <mattzz> you are right, it has nothing to do with the partition.
  • [19:37:08] <mattzz> exactly
  • [19:37:36] <mattzz> try ldd `which mkfs.ext3'
  • [19:38:35] <jkridner> the fix: opkg install e2fsprogs-badblocks
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  • [19:39:14] <jkridner> thanks for the hint about 'ldd'. I'll remember it for the future, maybe. I've forgotten about it many times already. :)
  • [19:39:28] <mattzz> np ;)
  • [19:40:08] <jkridner> prpplague: do you know anything about the status of openocd for the bone?
  • [19:40:32] <jkridner> doesn't the flyswatter work if the JTAG header is added?
  • [19:40:46] <jkridner> if so, I'd think that it wouldn't be an icepick issue any more.
  • [19:41:56] <mattzz> I'm using the ft2232 device and somehow I can see strings like "BeagleBone A" being read from the device. Using a modified xds100v2 config.
  • [19:42:30] <prpplague> jkridner: i have not been able to get the bone working properly with the flyswatter or the built in ft2232, i keep getting issues where the arm core does not appear in the chain at the correct location
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  • [19:43:04] <mattzz> prpplague: mind sharing your .cfg?
  • [19:43:29] <mattzz> (if you are using opened)
  • [19:43:39] <mattzz> s/opened/openocd/
  • [19:44:54] <prpplague> prp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_plague
  • [19:45:10] <prpplague> mattzz: yea it is at home, i can post it to a wiki page this evening
  • [19:46:01] <mattzz> prpplague: thanks a lot, that would be great. I'm just starting on opened and the funny thing is that the device cannot be opened but 2 devices are found...
  • [19:46:28] <prpplague> mattzz: can you pastebin your log?
  • [19:46:38] <prpplague> mattzz: i don't have a lot of time to help, but i will look
  • [19:47:07] <mattzz> http://pastebin.com/KRfgHXJS
  • [19:48:01] <mattzz> Same error when I change the device desc to "BeagleBone A"
  • [19:48:40] <prpplague> mattzz: should be just BeagleBone
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  • [19:49:48] <prpplague> mattzz: ping me after 8pm CST today, i'll post what i have
  • [19:50:06] <mattzz> http://pastebin.com/y9d4nBFw
  • [19:50:36] <mattzz> I'm on MET, so I will see what I can do ;-) But thanks anyway!
  • [19:51:12] <prpplague> mattzz: are you running it as root?
  • [19:51:23] <mattzz> yes
  • [19:51:29] <mattzz> (on a Mac)
  • [19:51:33] <prpplague> OH
  • [19:51:47] <prpplague> there a TON of special issues with that
  • [19:52:28] <mattzz> ok, I wasn't aware of that???
  • [19:53:45] <mattzz> I will try with a debian machine then
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  • [19:57:32] <prpplague> jkridner: i;ve been getting a ton of emails about openocd+linux kernel + beagle debugging lately
  • [19:57:47] <prpplague> jkridner: have you heard of any breakage in openocd for that?
  • [19:58:48] <jkridner__> original beagle/xM? no, I haven't heard of any breakage. for bone, I haven't heard of any success.
  • [19:59:48] <ds2> he he he he
  • [20:00:03] <mdp> prpplague, wrt to flyswatter, right?
  • [20:00:25] <ds2> a tangential question - anyone know if openocd will work with the craneboard (AM35x)?
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  • [20:01:25] <prpplague> mdp: specifically for me the flyswatter/flyswatter2 , but from what i gather it is all devices with openocd and beagle/beaglexm
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  • [20:01:59] <mattzz> ds2: I can't see a board description file for crane but the target am35x is supported AFAIK
  • [20:02:25] <ds2> mattzz: hmmm
  • [20:02:27] <mdp> ds2, stupid question, does craneboard have xds100v1/2 h/w support on it?
  • [20:02:31] <mdp> I'm too lazy to look atm
  • [20:02:41] <ds2> mdp: I think it does
  • [20:02:46] <mdp> ds2, or are you talking openocd to an external jtag?
  • [20:02:55] <ds2> yes, external 14pin jtag
  • [20:02:58] <mdp> ds2, ok, so I'll tell you my tale of woe..
  • [20:03:11] <ds2> mdp: you mean the on board ftdi jtag like the crane? that it does NOT have
  • [20:03:16] <ds2> like the bone
  • [20:03:17] <ds2> blah
  • [20:03:41] <mdp> before bone release, I tried openocd on it..then got pissed after debugging up and down the thing (having happily gotten a config together on the 335x evm for my bdi)..
  • [20:04:16] <mdp> then I tried the xds100v1 on an am180x board, has the built in ftdi with the right vid/pid???failed with openocd there too
  • [20:04:19] <ds2> more of looking for something less painful then CCS
  • [20:04:42] <ds2> okay, guess I'll drop the idea and resort to flashing LEDs to debug xloader
  • [20:04:45] <mdp> this is all off of a tip of tree openocd, so maybe there's some regression
  • [20:05:31] <mdp> because I followed threads where the stuff was working at some point this and that..eventually I got bored because I didn't really *need* it..except for beaglebone stuff where I was too lazy to solder a cTI header on my board
  • [20:05:43] <mdp> anyway, that's about all I know
  • [20:06:13] <ds2> 'k
  • [20:06:13] <mdp> ds2, well, my gut feeling is that openocd is less of a can of hurt than CCS
  • [20:06:34] <mdp> ask Tartarus about his tale of woe regarding the "just works" CCS support for even our own xds100* stuff
  • [20:06:50] <ds2> mdp: it looks that way. going to work on convincing someone to fund a lauterbach ;)
  • [20:06:54] <mdp> ds2, plus just the fact of life of dealing with the eclipse bloatware
  • [20:07:06] * prpplague needs to ping Tartarus about testing the flyswatter2
  • [20:07:11] <ds2> *nod* just say no to eclipse
  • [20:07:12] <snaakje> solved: my usb otg host's USB port couldn't handle the beagleboard.
  • [20:07:18] <snaakje> works fine with external 5v.
  • [20:07:33] <snaakje> They shoulda put that in the manual :p
  • [20:07:38] <Tartarus> bah
  • [20:07:42] <mdp> prpplague, I've been thinking about getting one myself, just to compare and contrast to my workflow with BDI
  • [20:07:42] <snaakje> iso the http://beagleboard.org/support/faq
  • [20:07:45] <Tartarus> So, yeah, still need to get flyswatter out
  • [20:07:49] <Crofton_> koen, http://icanhascheezburger.com/2012/02/10/funny-pictures-i-have-no-idea-where-im-going/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ICanHasCheezburger+%28I+CAN+HAS+CHEEZBURGER%29
  • [20:07:57] <ds2> mdp: which BDI are you using?
  • [20:08:00] <mdp> Tartarus, slacker
  • [20:08:00] <mattzz> prpplague: fwiw, things are looking better on the debian machine ;)
  • [20:08:02] <Tartarus> CCS is fine'ish on am335x (beaglebone) but I haven't found the right magic mapping stuff for beagleboard
  • [20:08:10] <snaakje> and it doesn't like my wireless kb/mouse tusb thingie, i'll figure that out later.
  • [20:08:21] <mdp> ds2, I have a bdi2000 rev c
  • [20:08:44] <ds2> mdp: isn't that officially ``obsolete''? as in they want people on the 3K instead?
  • [20:08:45] <prpplague> Tartarus: oh you were able to get CCS working on the bone?
  • [20:09:02] <mdp> ds2, check the difference..not much..all firmwares released on both
  • [20:09:53] <mdp> tbh, I've been using bd2000 since 2000 for linux devel..it was rev B then..5V only..only change to keep up to date has been rev C for the unshifted connectors
  • [20:09:54] <Tartarus> prpplague: yes
  • [20:10:00] <Tartarus> That "just works"
  • [20:10:09] <Tartarus> aside from things like disliking power being removed and so on
  • [20:10:19] <ds2> I see.
  • [20:10:24] <mdp> ds2, works on every one of our ref boards here and every customer board I've touched with my trust cTI adapter
  • [20:10:32] <prpplague> Tartarus: hmm, ok
  • [20:10:38] <prpplague> Tartarus: that the linux build of ccs?
  • [20:10:42] <Tartarus> yeah
  • [20:10:48] <Tartarus> 5.1
  • [20:10:50] <ds2> mdp: *here == ?
  • [20:11:07] <Tartarus> which is public :)
  • [20:11:08] <prpplague> Tartarus: guess i need to download it and add a LA to figure out what it is doing different that openocd
  • [20:11:16] <mdp> ds2, oh sorry, I mean all of our AMxxx ref boards and beagle* stuff
  • [20:11:29] <ds2> mdp: *our == ?
  • [20:11:45] <ds2> mdp: are you with TI or ?
  • [20:11:49] <mdp> ds2, TI "Sitara"
  • [20:11:55] <ds2> got it.
  • [20:12:14] <ds2> mdp: any sitara? :D
  • [20:12:36] <mdp> hrm???haven't tried 1810
  • [20:24:45] <mdp> well, sounds like fun, I'll come check out your session. let's plan on meeting up day one, I'm sure a lot fo the omap/beagleish type crowd will be gathering in the halls so we can sync up
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  • [20:38:38] <djlewis> has the rasberry pi been discussed already?
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  • [20:44:31] <Daniel_> Can i run Android on a Beagleboard XM and have it run a opencv application?
  • [20:45:15] <ds2> bad error ro message at C01
  • [20:46:56] <Russ> Daniel_, don't use colored text...especially black
  • [20:47:28] <Daniel_> ??
  • [20:47:38] <Daniel_> i have it at normal
  • [20:47:47] <Russ> then my xchat is broken
  • [20:47:50] <Daniel_> why is my text showing in another color?
  • [20:47:58] <Russ> its fine now
  • [20:48:21] <ds2> qfg
  • [20:48:23] <ds2> blah
  • [20:48:57] <Russ> you'd have to see if someone has already run opencv on android and if they haven't, check into it's dependencies
  • [20:49:15] <Russ> hey, there's a page: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/Android
  • [20:49:48] <Daniel_> Russ_ thanks for your reply....
  • [20:50:06] <Daniel_> i have looked into that page. I did not see anything mentioning the BB
  • [20:50:24] <Daniel_> That is why i got worried
  • [20:51:18] <Russ> I would not foresee any issues so long as you can get android up and going on your XM
  • [20:51:29] <ds2> generally, things are in layers
  • [20:51:45] <ds2> unless you are doing JNI, most android stuff willbe portable
  • [20:51:59] <ds2> or native code
  • [20:52:25] <Daniel_> I have gotten Android running on my BB XM
  • [20:53:14] <Russ> Daniel_, I would start here: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/AndroidSamples
  • [20:56:04] <Daniel_> So i should not be worried that i dont see beagleboard mention on either of those two webpages???
  • [20:56:14] <Daniel_> By the way....thanks for all of your help
  • [20:56:19] <Daniel_> I really appreciate it
  • [20:56:26] <Daniel_> :-)
  • [20:57:30] <Daniel_> I have another question.....does opencv run almost exclusively on the beagleboard dsp???
  • [20:57:37] <Daniel_> That question in very important
  • [20:58:02] <djlewis> perhaps not at all would be a close answer
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  • [20:58:21] <Daniel_> ??
  • [20:58:23] <djlewis> someone begin trying to convert it a couple years back.
  • [20:58:33] <djlewis> didnt make much progress irc
  • [20:58:35] <Daniel_> i did read that
  • [20:58:44] <djlewis> thats it as far as i know
  • [20:59:05] <Daniel_> i know exactly which project you are talking about
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  • [21:01:59] <Daniel_> i am still confused with that. I took some image processing courses in college (2 to be exact). I from what i gathered, DSPs were invented almost exclusively for image processing. I thought OpenCV was almost image processing based and so i concluded OpenCV must run exclusively on the DSP.
  • [21:02:11] <Daniel_> Am i correct in my conclussions???
  • [21:03:16] <jsabeaudry> Daniel_, OpenCV can run on a processor at least it did a few years ago
  • [21:04:11] <jacekowski> DSPs were created for Digital Signal Processing
  • [21:04:42] <jacekowski> including audio and any audiolike signals
  • [21:04:46] <jacekowski> and image signals
  • [21:05:13] <jacekowski> mostly for repeatable things on large chunks of data
  • [21:05:26] <jacekowski> very similiar to vector extensions in typical x86/ARM cpu
  • [21:05:48] <jacekowski> OpenCV however can run any processor that gcc can compile to
  • [21:06:26] <Daniel_> Acekowski: Including the DPS?
  • [21:06:49] <Daniel_> jacekowski: Including the DPS?
  • [21:07:06] <jacekowski> DSP*
  • [21:07:18] <Daniel_> yes
  • [21:07:19] <Daniel_> lol
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  • [21:07:28] <jacekowski> there is one TI dsp that gcc can compile to
  • [21:07:29] <Daniel_> sorry
  • [21:07:57] <jacekowski> but it has limitations
  • [21:08:02] <jacekowski> so not really
  • [21:08:48] <jacekowski> DSPs are ussualy meant to run accompanied by another generic processor
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  • [21:11:48] <Daniel_> i would like to design a application similar to this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZRHLmUKtM
  • [21:11:55] <Daniel_> But using the BB XM
  • [21:12:25] <jacekowski> yeah
  • [21:12:44] <Daniel_> My original plan was to run OpenGL on the SGX, run OpenCV on DSP, and run the detection algorithm on the CPU
  • [21:12:48] <jacekowski> bb doesn't really have any good camera interface
  • [21:13:03] <jacekowski> you don't need DSP for that
  • [21:13:29] <Daniel_> I have connected a XtionPro to my Beagleboard XM which is running Android
  • [21:13:40] <jacekowski> well, check your cpu load
  • [21:13:51] <Daniel_> 50 percent
  • [21:14:02] <jacekowski> exactly
  • [21:14:12] <Daniel_> That is why i wanted to see if i could load OpenCV to the DSP
  • [21:14:12] <jacekowski> not much left for any kind of processing done by opencv
  • [21:14:18] <jacekowski> you can't
  • [21:14:18] <Daniel_> excatly
  • [21:14:20] <Daniel_> i know
  • [21:14:21] <jacekowski> unless you want to port it
  • [21:14:38] <jacekowski> but it's not really designed for it
  • [21:14:47] <Daniel_> My hopes were that i could run OpenCV almost exclusviely on the DSP
  • [21:15:32] <Daniel_> That way i would not need the CPU
  • [21:15:45] <jacekowski> DSP isn't really designed for that stuff
  • [21:16:05] <Daniel_> I know for a fact that OpenGL runs on the Beagleboard GPU/SGX
  • [21:16:08] <jacekowski> it's more for applying same kind of processing to large set of data
  • [21:16:12] <Russ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuszsfQjvww <- you mean like this?
  • [21:16:23] <jacekowski> OpenGL is just a standard for 3d stuff
  • [21:16:40] <jacekowski> and beagleboard GPU is OpenGL compatible
  • [21:16:58] <Daniel_> :-o
  • [21:17:27] <Daniel_> Russ:
  • [21:17:30] <Daniel_> wow
  • [21:17:38] <Daniel_> i never saw that youtube video
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  • [21:18:52] <Daniel_> That is exactly what i wanted to do
  • [21:19:43] <Daniel_> That gives me hopes
  • [21:19:49] <Russ> there are a lot of omap based AR projects out there
  • [21:20:13] <Daniel_> yes but.....
  • [21:20:51] <Daniel_> one sec....i am looking for the video
  • [21:22:44] <Daniel_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wGFR1pt-Q
  • [21:22:50] <Daniel_> this is my ultimate goal
  • [21:24:10] <Daniel_> I would like to use XtionPro, Beagleboard XM, Android, OpenGL and OpenCV
  • [21:25:06] <Daniel_> To create the avatar i would use OpenGL(I have done that already)
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  • [21:25:34] <Daniel_> To render the Avatar on the monitor i would like to use OpenCV
  • [21:26:03] <Daniel_> To get the users motion i would like to use the XtionPro(I have already done that)
  • [21:26:24] <Daniel_> All i need is OpenCV
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  • [21:27:06] <Daniel_> but i am afraid my project will be killed if i dont figure out a way of porting OpenCV to the DSP
  • [21:27:18] <Daniel_> All i have left to work with is 40 CPU
  • [21:27:26] <Daniel_> 40%
  • [21:27:39] <Daniel_> 40%CPU,
  • [21:27:46] <Daniel_> 100DSP
  • [21:27:50] <mdp> Russ, nice demo
  • [21:28:14] <mdp> perfect for happy hour
  • [21:29:04] <Daniel_> Another question, if all i have left is 40%CPU, do you think that is enough to run OpenCV???
  • [21:29:32] <cezane> I would like to access my filesystem (angstrom) from my host (ubuntu) through eclipse... in the angstrom I already have the dropbear installed, but when I try to connect to beagleboard from eclipse, I get this error message: Failed to connect sshd on "myEmbeddedIP"
  • [21:29:43] <cezane> detail: "java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host"
  • [21:29:53] <cezane> can anyone help me with this?
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  • [21:37:00] <djlewis> Daniel_: OpenCV was originally a Intel project that was optimized for Intel processors.
  • [21:37:54] <mru> is that not still the case?
  • [21:38:13] <djlewis> mru: Hi dude :) yep.
  • [21:38:40] <djlewis> except Intel does not work on it as it was absorbed by the community
  • [21:38:56] <Crofton_> mru, where are you going now?
  • [21:39:20] <mru> abq
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  • [21:40:26] <TheAlphaNerd> soooo can anyone help me with dsp stuff on a custom kernel
  • [21:40:29] <TheAlphaNerd> https://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/5b8f0227c7386e46
  • [21:40:37] <TheAlphaNerd> specifically linaro kernal with tidspbridge mod enabled
  • [21:40:43] <TheAlphaNerd> that link has current progress
  • [21:40:56] <TheAlphaNerd> right now trying to figure out why alsamixer is not working
  • [21:41:42] <Crofton_> um, telescopes
  • [21:41:59] <djlewis> Crofton_: ??
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  • [21:45:20] <cezane> what do I need to access remotly my file system, in angstrom, besides dropbear? can anyone tell me?
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  • [21:45:34] <cezane> in the angstrom I already have the dropbear installed, but when I try to connect to beagleboard from eclipse, I get this error message: Failed to connect sshd on "myEmbeddedIP"
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  • [21:45:48] <cezane> can anyone help me?
  • [21:46:24] <TheAlphaNerd> cezane: are you mac or pc?
  • [21:46:50] <TheAlphaNerd> and you have to change the IP
  • [21:46:52] <cezane> pc, running ubuntu
  • [21:46:57] <TheAlphaNerd> to the ip of your chip
  • [21:47:06] <TheAlphaNerd> although you could install avahi-daemon
  • [21:47:07] <cezane> ip
  • [21:47:08] <TheAlphaNerd> and use mdns
  • [21:47:20] <TheAlphaNerd> and then connect to hostname.loca
  • [21:47:20] <TheAlphaNerd> l
  • [21:48:09] <cezane> I was following a tutorial about the remote access through "remote system explorer" plugin in eclipse
  • [21:48:51] <TheAlphaNerd> wel what do you want to be able to do
  • [21:48:55] <TheAlphaNerd> just access it remotely?
  • [21:49:00] <TheAlphaNerd> or edit remotely?
  • [21:49:05] <cezane> both
  • [21:49:18] <cezane> via eclipse
  • [21:49:24] <TheAlphaNerd> i've never set it up in eclipse
  • [21:49:27] <TheAlphaNerd> but is ssh working?
  • [21:49:30] <cezane> I was installing openssh
  • [21:49:45] <TheAlphaNerd> ssh should work out of the box in angstrom
  • [21:50:12] <cezane> but the installation stopped, giving a warning about the dropbear already installed
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  • [21:51:14] <cezane> I tried to do a ssh, but I get: ssh root@10.20.40.130:22 ==> ssh: Could not resolve hostname 10.20.40.130:22: Name or service not known
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  • [21:57:25] <TheAlphaNerd> do you have a screen on your board?
  • [21:57:38] <TheAlphaNerd> if ssh isn't working the other one won't work
  • [21:57:51] <TheAlphaNerd> let's get ssh / avahi working and then getting exlipse to work will be a peice of cake
  • [21:58:06] <TheAlphaNerd> what's your ip under ifconfig??? and is your board getting an ip via dhcp?
  • [21:58:14] <cezane> yes... I am running angstrom here...
  • [21:58:36] <cezane> ok
  • [21:59:22] <cezane> no... I configured manually.... and I accessing internet from it...
  • [21:59:40] <cezane> the connection is ok
  • [22:00:04] <cezane> do you suggest me remove the dropbear?
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  • [22:02:53] <TheAlphaNerd> drop bear should work
  • [22:03:02] <TheAlphaNerd> but I would suggest configuring it through dhcp
  • [22:03:04] <TheAlphaNerd> and using mdns
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  • [22:03:23] <TheAlphaNerd> opkg install avahi-daemon
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  • [22:04:27] <TheAlphaNerd> can you ping the ip you set from another machine on the network?
  • [22:04:55] <cezane> I will test now
  • [22:05:43] <cezane> From 10.20.40.115 icmp_seq=26 Destination Host Unreachable From 10.20.40.115 icmp_seq=27 Destination Host Unreachable From 10.20.40.115 icmp_seq=28 Destination Host Unreachable
  • [22:06:19] <TheAlphaNerd> so you are having network problems
  • [22:06:31] <TheAlphaNerd> from your beagleboard
  • [22:06:37] <TheAlphaNerd> can you ping your main box?
  • [22:06:42] <cezane> can you tell me how I set my ip in angstrom?
  • [22:07:05] <TheAlphaNerd> /etc/network/interfaces
  • [22:07:20] <TheAlphaNerd> ig waut
  • [22:07:21] <TheAlphaNerd> oh wait
  • [22:07:22] <TheAlphaNerd> hold on
  • [22:07:36] <TheAlphaNerd> yes that is right
  • [22:07:59] <TheAlphaNerd> you shoudl have a section read auto usb0 or auto eth0
  • [22:08:11] <TheAlphaNerd> under that it will either read iface th0 inet dhcp
  • [22:08:21] <TheAlphaNerd> or a bunch of other shit for manual config
  • [22:09:17] <cezane> I am connecting now to beagle channel via beagleboard
  • [22:10:36] <TheAlphaNerd> ?
  • [22:10:45] <TheAlphaNerd> beagle channel?
  • [22:11:00] <cezane> this chat...
  • [22:11:06] <TheAlphaNerd> ahhh
  • [22:11:24] <cezane> I think it will be easier for me to show messages or something like
  • [22:11:24] <TheAlphaNerd> so you could always just install avahi daemon
  • [22:11:34] <TheAlphaNerd> opkg install avahi-daemon
  • [22:11:36] <TheAlphaNerd> try that first
  • [22:11:42] <TheAlphaNerd> then try to ping your hostname.local
  • [22:11:52] <cezane> ok
  • [22:11:55] <cezane> I will do this
  • [22:12:03] <TheAlphaNerd> if you do that
  • [22:12:08] <TheAlphaNerd> then install avahi-daemon on ubuntu
  • [22:12:15] <TheAlphaNerd> you can just use the hostname instead of ips
  • [22:12:26] <TheAlphaNerd> worry about setting the interface later
  • [22:12:37] <TheAlphaNerd> nice thing about this setup is that it is open for most networks...
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  • [22:47:16] <TheBurrito> is there a recommended site for walking through configuring pin muxing and recompiling uboot?
  • [22:47:28] <TheBurrito> I have not worked with OE yet
  • [22:48:13] * djlewis dnld'd a pinmux app for windows from TI site but I was flamed for it ;)
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  • [22:49:33] <djlewis> But the app does output the code for setting the mux and is a nice graphical representation.
  • [22:49:58] <djlewis> I never actually used it for uboot
  • [22:51:21] <ds2> that output doesn't match with some versions of u-boot
  • [22:51:28] <ds2> so you really need to post process it with sed/awk/etc
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  • [22:54:43] <TheBurrito> there isn't a big issue with compiling uboot outside of the OE env? just compile the source and flash it into nand?
  • [22:54:57] <jay6981> pretty much
  • [22:55:01] <TheBurrito> (cross-compile of course)
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  • [22:56:05] <TheBurrito> is it possible to be able to export gpio pins, but writing the value change nothing on the output? I'm always reading high on the gpio/i2c-2 pins
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  • [22:58:46] <djlewis> isnt i2c-2 used by the os to read add on boards?
  • [22:59:32] <djlewis> well, their id rom anyways
  • [23:00:46] <TheBurrito> I'm working on my own add on board
  • [23:01:01] <TheBurrito> does is absolutely have to have the eeprom and then uboot uses that to set pins?
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  • [23:12:38] <djlewis> ds2: good to know
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  • [23:14:21] <questioner> test
  • [23:14:28] <questioner> hello?
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  • [23:19:00] <_av500_> test failed
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  • [23:26:17] <TheBurrito> has anyone here messed with pin muxing in uboot before? I'm finding several lines within the beagle_mux define that reference the same pin.
  • [23:27:13] <TheBurrito> and the angstrom toolchain from narcissus should work with an ubuntu install for cross compiling uboot?
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