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  • [01:03:22] <rcn-ee> jkridner_, it's just the delay of getting all the paper work setup.. (yes it's annoying) gerald had changed the buy page to usa only till everything is in place..
  • [01:03:48] <jkridner_> well, he asked me to change it. :)
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  • [01:04:24] <rcn-ee> ah. ;)
  • [01:04:25] <jkridner_> unsolo: no BeagleBones in stock anywhere. They are planned for first shipment this week.
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  • [01:08:24] <rcn-ee> jkridner_, i'm really digging the usb serial setup (specially the reset button), has joel or koen pushed the vid/pid upstream?
  • [01:09:51] <jkridner_> nope. big debate today if we should switch to PID 0x6010 from 0xa6d0 b/c 0x6010 is already upstream.
  • [01:10:05] <jkridner_> we'll switch the PID after the first 1,500 units it seems.
  • [01:10:28] <jkridner_> have you seen http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/a3/README.htm ?
  • [01:12:29] <rcn-ee> good to know. ;) nope haven't seen that, first thing out of the box i patched: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux/commit/5121e8579d850a5aba91dcb98f1fe642226c34a7
  • [01:13:41] <jkridner_> prpplague has openocd working, but he switched the pid to 0x6010.
  • [01:14:33] <jkridner_> still, a quick patch to the right LKML-* would be appreciated. ping me for an Ack.
  • [01:14:55] <jkridner_> at least the first 1,500 would appreciate it being out there.
  • [01:14:58] <rcn-ee> sweet, will do.. wasn'
  • [01:15:13] <rcn-ee> t sure if there was a jtag 'fixup' so didn't want to push till i new..
  • [01:15:31] <jkridner_> working on http://beagleboard.org/linux/
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  • [01:18:39] <rcn-ee> currently it's pretty much working fine on ubuntu/debian, just need to clean up the defconfig differences which the stuff i'm already pushing..
  • [01:19:14] <jkridner_> kernel tree needs a ton of clean-up. :(
  • [01:19:53] <rcn-ee> yeah, the psp tree is a mess, but it's still way better then the tree's before the panda's went out.. ;)
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  • [01:22:19] <jkridner_> they keep rebasing to try to clean up the history to prepare for upstream submissions, which is why I have our own clone now.
  • [01:24:16] <rcn-ee> yeap, i
  • [01:24:39] <rcn-ee> 've been rebasign with them.. but things are also seem to be getting fixed too..
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  • [02:00:56] <ds2> can one realistically by an AM3359 at the moment?
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  • [02:12:54] <jkridner_> ds2: you'd pretty much have to get it sampled today. you could initiate an order with a sample waiver.
  • [02:13:28] <jkridner_> ie. these aren't qualified parts until 2012Q1 or so, so the terms would be really strict.
  • [02:14:18] <jkridner_> but, I know there are customers already starting product builds. not sure on the volumes.
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  • [02:22:48] <ds2> jkridner_: oh blah
  • [02:23:19] <ds2> so for small guys, it is probally 2012Q3 before they can get parts :(
  • [02:23:54] <jkridner_> these chips are going broader much faster than OMAP chips.
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  • [02:24:08] <jkridner_> I can work with you to get sample orders...
  • [02:24:20] <jkridner_> they will likely be non-cancellable, non-returnable.
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  • [02:25:18] <jkridner_> we have mutual friends at distributors who can help.
  • [02:25:28] <ds2> still, I assume u guys are still ramping up so small guys don't get allocated parts
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  • [02:38:47] <jkridner_> wafer starts and allocation can be complex and confusing. if you can explain to me a need, I can try to work with a distributor to buy some parts extra as samples knowing that you're committed to buying them. several distributors have it setup in their systems already (http://avnetexpress.avnet.com/store/em/EMController?langId=-1&storeId=500201&catalogId=500201&term=am335&x=0&y=0&N=0&Ne=100000&action=products), but need stock. If you wan
  • [02:38:47] <jkridner_> off-the-shelf, then you'll need to wait a few months. If you want to work together, I think we can make something happen.
  • [02:38:51] <ds2> let see how well does the bone do
  • [02:38:57] <jkridner_> k
  • [02:39:29] <ds2> so doing a build is not out of the question is what you are telling me. I just need to work at it.
  • [02:39:37] <jkridner_> exactly.
  • [02:39:49] <ds2> gotcha
  • [02:40:05] <ds2> sounds a lot like the situation with the 37xx parts
  • [02:40:56] <jkridner_> well, for small orders, those are in stock at several places: http://www.ti.com/product/dm3730#inventory
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  • [02:41:44] <jkridner_> compared to http://www.ti.com/product/am3359#inventory
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  • [02:41:53] <ds2> ah I see.
  • [02:42:46] <ds2> would I be correct in assuming the bone doesn't do blind/buried vias or via under ball stuff? (or should I wait for the next ESC for Gerald to present? :D)
  • [02:43:26] <ds2> it isn't so much assuming; I did look at the allegro files. wanted to confirm (and others probally are curious too)
  • [02:43:35] <jkridner_> no laser drills. pretty sure no blind/burried via or in-ball vias. http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design
  • [02:43:55] <jkridner_> best to query gerald on the mailing list.
  • [02:44:09] <ds2> *nod*
  • [02:44:10] <jkridner_> I think 6 layers.
  • [02:44:45] <ds2> doing a general cost comparism against the AM3703 since I think they are pretty close chips other then voltages
  • [02:45:35] <ds2> maybe not the 03 but the other one with the SGX, 3725?
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  • [02:59:41] <jkridner_> AM3715.
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  • [03:13:27] <wmat> is the last email to the list from driechers completely garbled for everyone, or just me?
  • [03:14:55] <prpplague> wmat: what have you been drinking? looks fine to us
  • [03:15:08] <jkridner_> it was garbled for me.
  • [03:15:17] <prpplague> darn Canadian booze
  • [03:15:36] <prpplague> jkridner_: drinking too?
  • [03:15:42] <wmat> prpplague: heh, Canadian booze makes everything clearer ;)
  • [03:15:49] <wmat> prpplague: I think you could be drunk though
  • [03:15:57] <prpplague> hehe
  • [03:16:36] <wmat> how does one mangle email like that through gmail?
  • [03:16:42] <wmat> the person's first mail was fine
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  • [03:19:00] <mru> the entire message is url-escaped
  • [03:19:08] <mru> no idea how that would happen
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  • [03:57:41] <lgentili> jkridner_: are you there?
  • [03:57:47] <jkridner_> yup.
  • [03:58:05] <lgentili> maybe you can help me to ask a question
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  • [03:58:42] <lgentili> i've ordered a beaglebone and a EVM, we planning to do our own HW. but I cannot find if the EVM has any HW design documents
  • [03:59:20] <lgentili> the EVM has backorders until end of Dicember
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  • [03:59:40] <jkridner_> the question is?
  • [03:59:42] <lgentili> beaglebone same backorders in Mouser.
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  • [03:59:54] <jkridner_> beaglebone will start shipping this week to distributors.
  • [04:00:18] <lgentili> if the EVM for the AM3358 has any HW design document to help us to do our own Board
  • [04:01:12] * jkridner_ guesses you've seen http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Device:AM335x:Device_Evaluation#Hardware_Design_Guide
  • [04:03:03] <jkridner_> says docs are available, but I'm not sure where/when.
  • [04:03:18] <lgentili> yes, thanks. but I've ordered the EVM to have more references just in case we need them + the wifi circuit, but if I it doesn't come with schematics at least, is kind of a waste for the $995
  • [04:03:30] <jkridner_> I know it does.
  • [04:03:42] <jkridner_> I just don't know if they are available ahead of time.
  • [04:03:51] <jkridner_> or if they are still tweaking ahead of release.
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  • [04:04:12] <jkridner_> I guess you know about http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design
  • [04:04:29] <jkridner_> but, yeah, no wi-fi circuit there.
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  • [04:04:33] <lgentili> yep. could be that. I'm downloading the SDK right now. Yep I've downloaded all from your site
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  • [04:06:03] <lgentili> I've a beagleboard, how do you compare the speed agasint the beaglebone? do you think the performance is the same? (I'm kind of worried about the 16 bit DDR2)
  • [04:06:23] <lgentili> I know the clock is higher
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  • [04:09:35] <lgentili> jkridner_: Is there any comparative BeagleBoard vs BeagleBone?
  • [04:09:50] <lgentili> in term of processing power
  • [04:09:51] <jkridner_> http://beagleboard.org/static/flyer_latest.pdf
  • [04:09:57] <jkridner_> oh, no, not really...
  • [04:10:15] <jkridner_> the main processor is 720MHz on the Bone vs. 1GHz for the xM....
  • [04:10:19] <jkridner_> and similar cache...
  • [04:10:48] <jkridner_> memory speeds will be different, 16-bit vs. 32-bit and different clock rates.
  • [04:11:14] <jkridner_> xM has a DSP and video co-processor subsystem.
  • [04:11:25] <lgentili> I hoping, it will perform like the Beagleboard c4 I've here
  • [04:11:26] <jonpry> its double the clock rate, so bandwidth should be the same
  • [04:11:34] <lgentili> yep
  • [04:11:47] <jkridner_> the display subsystem on xM also provides additional overlays and color-space conversion.
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  • [04:12:05] <lgentili> but not many application use the DSP, I preffer the lower cost and don't have any DSP unit
  • [04:12:25] <jkridner_> for non-DSP tasks, I'd very much expect it to be in-line with your C4.
  • [04:12:39] <jkridner_> well, that's why we did it. :)
  • [04:12:50] <lgentili> hehe
  • [04:13:04] <lgentili> Thanks for your support! gnite
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  • [06:32:36] <_av500_> error vectors mangnitude?
  • [06:33:24] <Russ> extra-vehicular movement?
  • [06:33:34] <Russ> extra-value meal?
  • [06:34:14] <Russ> usually getting an extra-value meal requires some sort of extra-vehicular movement
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  • [08:29:12] <koen> ds2: userspace is completely interchangable, on the kernel modules need rebuilding, since the sgx addresses changed (again)
  • [08:32:45] <ds2> koen: rebuilding? the modules are not setup with the right if (board_is_....)?
  • [08:32:56] <koen> not sure
  • [08:33:07] <koen> you need to build them anyway since the kernel is different :)
  • [08:33:27] <ds2> it is in the davinci tree, right?
  • [08:33:33] <koen> no
  • [08:33:42] <ds2> sigh, yet another tree.
  • [08:33:44] <koen> it's nowhere currently
  • [08:33:48] <koen> but heading for linux-omap
  • [08:33:55] <ds2> I see.
  • [08:34:20] <koen> I submitted a proposal to the sgx team which allows us to stop needing devmem2 at runtime
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  • [08:34:46] <ds2> why not submit a proposal for a fully open sgx driver (userland and kernel) ;)
  • [08:34:48] <ds2> *ducks*
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  • [08:37:27] <Russ> devmem2 :)
  • [08:38:01] <Russ> I remember using that when it was first written
  • [08:38:29] <Russ> jdb
  • [08:38:54] <Russ> version 0.0 is still all you need
  • [08:39:42] <ds2> is bone support in arago yet?
  • [08:40:03] <Russ> Aragonese?
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  • [08:50:58] <koen> ds2: why would you need arago?
  • [08:51:12] <koen> ds2: bone support is fully in meta-ti, no need for arago
  • [08:51:26] <koen> unless you don't want vfp and neon, then you could try to hack arago on top
  • [08:53:29] <koen> the next amsdk release will be a bit better, though, it will use the angstrom toolchain instead of codeforgery
  • [08:56:42] <ds2> koen: I don't NEED arago
  • [08:57:26] <ds2> i just would like one tree
  • [08:58:04] <ds2> am3517 is arago based...at least the semi official stuff
  • [08:58:27] <ds2> now this... getting tired of blowing all the space on a new variant
  • [09:01:56] * av500 wonders if aragon can be ported to estragon
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  • [10:48:23] <av500> [IDC]Dragon: !
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  • [12:09:39] <snyp3r> would there be any difference in mathematical precision in functions that are calculated in kernel-space to the same functions in user-space?
  • [12:11:06] <zumbi_> kernel space IIRC does not do floating point arithmetics
  • [12:11:13] <hitlin37> if you mathermatical precision involves floating point,there's no floating point in kernel-space....
  • [12:11:33] <av500> kernel also might be in a hurry and not do all digits :)
  • [12:11:47] <mru> that's why kernel code runs faster
  • [12:12:15] <mru> zumbi_: the *linux* kernel as a rule does not do floating-point as a matter of convenience
  • [12:12:17] <snyp3r> ah I see, that might explain why this driver is misbehaving
  • [12:12:30] <hitlin37> what driver>?
  • [12:12:36] <mru> snyp3r: are you using floats in a driver?
  • [12:12:55] <hitlin37> than it was written wrong in first place
  • [12:13:04] <mru> zumbi_: the FPU works perfectly well in kernel mode of course
  • [12:13:12] * av500 think a driver using float might sink easily
  • [12:13:26] <snyp3r> driver is proprietary for RF tuner, it designed to be ran as a static using bit-banging for i2c functionality
  • [12:13:57] <snyp3r> mru: it may well be, there is 68000 lines of code and there is some long division in there
  • [12:14:09] <mru> av500: watch out for that interrupt reef
  • [12:14:23] <hitlin37> driver mostly handles raw data
  • [12:15:11] <snyp3r> I have hacked it to using i2c-dev but I would like to explore using in as a module, works to a degree, just not first time every time
  • [12:15:11] <mru> snyp3r: grep it for float|double
  • [12:20:26] <snyp3r> mru: there is a typedef but it appears to not be in use
  • [12:22:45] <snyp3r> must be something else, will keep digging
  • [12:23:21] <mru> you can't just take userspace code and drop it in the kernel
  • [12:23:27] <mru> it could be doing all sorts of evil things
  • [12:24:55] <snyp3r> mru: oh yeah I know, that is the challenge I guess
  • [12:31:02] <av500> mru: oops, so pthread_create does not work?
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  • [12:31:59] <mru> av500: that's right, no in-kernel openmax for you
  • [12:32:45] <av500> but at least I can RPC to the database using dbus?
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  • [14:13:45] <mru> bone arrived \o/
  • [14:17:22] <koen> mru: \o/
  • [14:18:36] <ogra_> first step towards a skeleton ? :)
  • [14:20:10] <dm8tbr> where do I sign up for a skull-board? :D
  • [14:20:44] <ogra_> i guess you have to build the skull out of bones :)
  • [14:20:49] <mru> hmm, should I attach the bacon to the bone?
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  • [14:21:23] <ogra_> slap it on with a flyswatter
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  • [14:31:35] <ogra_> heh
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  • [14:41:07] <hitlin37> today,i made no progress in porting ltp on android.....doing it as manager said so
  • [14:41:20] <av500> ltp?
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  • [14:42:49] <hitlin37> ya...linux test project....managers says,do it because mentor graphics didi it
  • [14:43:04] <hitlin37> although cts is enough
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  • [14:57:50] <wmat> mru: did you receive an early board, or are production boards shipping now?
  • [14:57:57] * wmat checks digikey order
  • [14:58:12] <koen> mru is on the early adopter list
  • [14:58:20] <av500> adopt-a-bone
  • [14:58:25] <wmat> ah, cool
  • [14:59:12] <av500> koen: people on that list are bone-daddies?
  • [15:00:51] <koen> jkridner_ is the bone daddy
  • [15:01:01] <av500> ah right
  • [15:04:21] <jkridner_> av500 is on the list as well....
  • [15:04:33] <jkridner_> I'm just really, really slow at getting through the list.
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  • [15:04:47] <av500> jkridner_: I know and thanks again!
  • [15:04:48] * jkridner_ looks at a box full of bones.
  • [15:05:07] <jkridner_> and empty shipping boxes.
  • [15:05:40] <wmat> you need a minion to stuff boxes
  • [15:05:54] <av500> joel, no?
  • [15:05:54] <jkridner_> I think it is a shame to not have had a better "beta" program. we did a lot better on the original BeagleBoard in that regard.
  • [15:06:05] <ogra_> av500, you should make sure to get on these lists by IRC nick instead of first name ;)
  • [15:06:08] <jkridner_> joel is in Dallas, I am in Michigan.
  • [15:06:50] <mru> there are these nifty things called aeroplanes
  • [15:06:56] <mru> I think you have them over there too
  • [15:07:04] <av500> mru: not in Michigan any more
  • [15:07:13] <av500> reccession etc..
  • [15:08:16] <jkridner_> :)
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  • [15:23:17] * wmat is going to MI in a few weeks
  • [15:24:10] <mru> so what's the status of the dvi add-on board for the bone?
  • [15:24:38] <av500> mru: already bored of ssh?
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  • [15:34:52] <av500> "...Please wait while ClearQuest Web loads into your browser...."
  • [15:34:58] <av500> makes me cringe each time
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  • [15:52:41] <mru> av500: at least it's not the java ui
  • [15:54:25] <av500> it's as slow
  • [15:54:36] <av500> broken back button of course
  • [15:55:20] <av500> send utterly horrible email notifications
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  • [16:12:56] <antoniodariush> Hi guys
  • [16:13:27] <antoniodariush> I have a brand new beagleboard and I want to ssh to it
  • [16:13:33] <antoniodariush> how can I find out the IP ?
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  • [16:27:30] <[IDC]Dragon> hi there, could an OMAP3 do any full HD mode?
  • [16:27:53] <[IDC]Dragon> with a slower pixel clock, like 1080i or 1080p24
  • [16:29:25] <av500> yes
  • [16:29:27] <av500> 1080p24
  • [16:29:37] <[IDC]Dragon> ok
  • [16:29:37] <av500> koen did that once afaik
  • [16:29:52] <av500> but it will eat all sdram bandwidth more or less
  • [16:30:04] <[IDC]Dragon> 1080i has a too crazy addressing?
  • [16:30:29] <av500> too many pixels
  • [16:30:36] <[IDC]Dragon> ?
  • [16:30:42] <av500> koen: there, I fixed it: http://i.imgur.com/32mED.png
  • [16:30:50] <[IDC]Dragon> still 1920*1080
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  • [16:32:50] <Mark_> Is there a BELP conference call today?
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  • [17:08:47] <av500> mru: there is hope: "E/TIHardwareRenderer( 1540): Doing a memcpy. Report this issue."
  • [17:08:59] <mru> :)
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  • [17:11:02] <Russ> av500, it should know better
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  • [17:29:22] <Alistair> Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has heard on the grapevine the expected availability of the BeagleBone PRU assembler?
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  • [17:33:01] <av500> nope
  • [17:33:14] <av500> be patient young padawan
  • [17:33:19] <Alistair> hoho
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  • [17:33:46] <Alistair> I'm wanting to thinker with high accuracy PWM, but may need to start/stop it quickly
  • [17:33:51] <Alistair> tinker*
  • [17:34:00] <av500> sure, but you dont even have a board yet :)
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  • [17:34:54] <Alistair> I know I know :P but it'll take me long enough getting to grips with it, the more I'm prepared the better or it'll take me forever to get anywhere
  • [17:35:40] <Alistair> on another note, recommend any good bridging chips for a CSI-2 interface?
  • [17:35:45] <av500> Alistair: well, if the opcodes are public, you dont really need an assembler :)
  • [17:35:56] <av500> Alistair: CSI-2 to what?
  • [17:36:05] <av500> CSI-MIAMI?
  • [17:36:16] <Alistair> @av500 whatever the fastest interface on the AM335x is
  • [17:36:27] <av500> there is none I think
  • [17:36:54] <Alistair> @av500 there are for example USB 2 bridge chips for omap, but alas they have a minimum order quantity
  • [17:37:09] <Alistair> @av500 not omap ermmm omnivsiion lol
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  • [17:38:54] <Alistair> http://www.ovt.com/products/ip_detail.php?id=7 fir example
  • [17:39:51] <av500> thats probably not CSI, it talks to the sensor directly
  • [17:40:07] <av500> ...CameraChip Interfaces: Up to 5-megapixel, 10-bit RGB interface, 8-bit YUV interface
  • [17:40:09] <Alistair> haha well, ok forget CSI-2, something that'll work with a modern sensor
  • [17:40:21] <av500> Alistair: buy a webcam?
  • [17:40:54] <Alistair> @av500 I planned on doing this for dev work but I'm eventually looking at creating a low-volume product so need something a little more solid
  • [17:41:24] <av500> well, use the one you linked
  • [17:41:40] <Nemesis][> Ok, pretty newb question here and I just want to confirm... I recompiled u-boot.bin using the code sorcery toolchain and modified the gpio settings in board/ti/beagle/beagle.h. I don't need to modify the uimage too to keep the mux settings? (This is using the Angstrom demo/test distro that came w/the BBxM - I don't want to blow out the cpu again, heh...)
  • [17:41:48] <Alistair> @av500 problem is it's too risky for me to place a large minimum order
  • [17:42:04] <av500> Alistair: use a webcam :)
  • [17:42:14] <Alistair> @av500 lolol
  • [17:43:45] <prpplague> emeb: ping
  • [17:43:53] <Alistair> @nemesis are you looking to build the entire distro in codesourcery?
  • [17:43:54] <emeb> prpplague: pong
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  • [17:44:15] <prpplague> emeb: you got a page up for the bone fpga yet?
  • [17:44:31] <Nemesis][> Alistair: not really; just remap some of the gpio lines to M4 to use with buttons.
  • [17:44:36] <emeb> prpplague: not yet. Just in the embryonic stage now
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  • [17:45:22] <emeb> Only started digging in the TRM the other day and just got started on the schematic this morning.
  • [17:45:30] <prpplague> emeb: ahh ok
  • [17:45:43] <prpplague> emeb: i have two boards in the works
  • [17:45:50] <Alistair> @nemesis ah gotcha
  • [17:45:50] <prpplague> emeb: no fpga though
  • [17:45:57] <emeb> prpplague: kewl - what functions you looking at?
  • [17:46:17] <Alistair> arh got to dash, ty 4 help guys
  • [17:46:18] <prpplague> emeb: basic breakout and an arduino compatible header board
  • [17:46:24] <Nemesis][> Alistair: so I take it that's a yes? =)
  • [17:46:42] <emeb> prpplague: handy. Looks like Arduino compatibility is a pretty popular idea.
  • [17:46:50] <Nemesis][> Like I said, I just want to confirm before I kill another bb...
  • [17:46:50] * emeb as heard that from others
  • [17:47:04] <emeb> s/as/has/
  • [17:48:24] <emeb> prpplague: I'm looking at an FPGA board and an audio + encoder + display board
  • [17:48:45] <Nemesis][> ...anyone? Just want to make sure I'm doing it right. I'm normally a network admin; not an EE. But since it's Linux I get tasked w/the software side of things...
  • [17:48:49] <prpplague> emeb: you seen other people working on the arduino compatibiluty?
  • [17:49:11] <emeb> prpplague: not _seen_ per-se, but heard it discussed as a goal
  • [17:49:28] <prpplague> emeb: ahh
  • [17:49:36] <prpplague> emeb: irc or mailing list?
  • [17:49:49] <emeb> prpplague: offline discussions
  • [17:49:56] <prpplague> emeb: ahh
  • [17:50:21] <prpplague> emeb: i have a working whitewire prototype, looking at the mechanicals now
  • [17:50:37] <emeb> prpplague: then you're further along than anyone I've talked to.
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  • [17:51:14] <prpplague> emeb: had to add a mux to create pin compatible headers for the ADCs
  • [17:51:42] <emeb> prpplague: interesting. So they could do duty as GPIO too?
  • [17:52:06] <Nemesis][> Ok, lemme rephrase: is a moddified u-boot.bin all that's needed to change the mux settings of the gpio lines one the kernel has booted?
  • [17:52:12] <prpplague> emeb: yea, replicating functionality of arduino header
  • [17:52:16] <emeb> since the 'bone ADC inputs are single-purpose.
  • [17:52:17] <Nemesis][> s/one/once/
  • [17:52:42] <emeb> prpplague: how do you control the mux?
  • [17:52:43] <jkridner_> antoniodariush: do you have an avahi-browser?
  • [17:52:58] <emeb> (more GPIO or I2C, etc?)
  • [17:52:59] <jkridner_> does your router have a login?
  • [17:53:05] <jkridner_> do you have access to the serial port?
  • [17:53:19] <jkridner_> if you have access to the serial port, login and type 'ifconfig'.
  • [17:53:35] <prpplague> emeb: gpio for now, considering using a i2c gpio expander
  • [17:53:46] <jkridner_> if you have access to your router that supplied the DHCP address, search it for connected devices.
  • [17:54:09] <emeb> GPIO is easier and you've got more 'bone GPIO than Arduino headers so it's not leaving anything on the table.
  • [17:54:12] * Nemesis][ sighs. I'm just looking for a simple yes or no. I take it no one alive can/will confirm?
  • [17:54:18] <jkridner_> if you have an avahi-browser, you should find the BeagleBoard advertising its ssh connection.
  • [17:55:02] <prpplague> emeb: yea, that was my thought as well
  • [17:55:20] <emeb> Nemesis][: You can do it in u-boot source, or in the linux board setup or after boot from userland.
  • [17:56:00] <Nemesis][> emeb: Ok, thank you. That's what I needed to know.
  • [17:57:04] <emeb> prpplague: you trying to keep your board outline the same as 'bone, same as Ard or your own shape?
  • [17:57:49] <prpplague> emeb: similar to bone, i'm doing my rectangle and dropping pins 1 and 2 on each header
  • [17:57:58] <prpplague> emeb: this way i don't have to notch the board
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  • [17:58:49] <emeb> prpplague: dropping pins 1/2 - interesting idea. Haven't got a good feel for the mechanicals (no hardware in-hand)
  • [17:59:35] <prpplague> emeb: yea if you drop pins 1/2 on each of the headers you loose two gpios and two ground pins, but you can make the board rectangle
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  • [18:01:17] <emeb> prpplague: I need to re-examine my pinouts. For some reason I thought there was DGND on pins 1/2 of both headers
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  • [18:03:39] <a1cypher1> Hey folks. Does anybody here happen to have a copy of the beagleboard angstrom demo rootfs image? I'm having problems downloading it from their site. Its limited to ~30kbps and the transfer failed at something like 98% and couldnt resume.
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  • [18:04:58] <a1cypher1> Hey folks. Does anybody here happen to have a copy of the beagleboard angstrom demo rootfs image? I'm having problems downloading it from their site. Its limited to ~30kbps and the transfer failed at something like 98% and couldnt resume.
  • [18:05:11] <av500> there are mirrors now
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  • [18:07:04] <a1cypher1> I could only find mirrors for the feeds. ie us.feeds.angstrom-distribution.org and eu.feeds.angstrom-distribution.org Doesnt seem to have the demo images on there.
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  • [18:18:10] <antoniodariush> jkridner_, thanks for the info
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  • [18:20:06] <jkridner_> http://beagleboard.org/angstrom
  • [18:20:15] <jkridner_> a1cypher1: ^^^
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  • [19:26:01] <unsolo> Hi guys anyone know the limitations on McASP compared to McBSP with respect to number of "channels"
  • [19:26:05] <unsolo> if any..
  • [19:26:22] <unsolo> Anorther question would be if that io is available on the beaglebone
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  • [19:26:28] <unsolo> another..
  • [19:26:50] <unsolo> Also another question.. is the gpmc bus awailable on the beaglebone io headers ?
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  • [19:27:30] <prpplague> unsolo: there is some gpmc pinmux pins, but i don't know if enough are present to do anything with
  • [19:27:38] <prpplague> unsolo: just started looking at that myself
  • [19:27:56] <unsolo> prpplague: the gpmc is perfect for attaching an fpga or similar
  • [19:28:04] <unsolo> the sync performance is close to PCI
  • [19:28:20] <prpplague> unsolo: yes indeed
  • [19:28:24] <unsolo> 16 bit bursts at 83 or 104Mhz
  • [19:29:55] <unsolo> you can even use it to attach a few more ethernet adapters
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  • [19:30:42] <unsolo> or a few of these ethernet switches
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  • [19:30:45] <unsolo> http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/technologies/semiconductors/comm-products/switch/Pages/7188774-KSZ8842-16MQL.aspx
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  • [19:32:42] * prpplague is very familiar with the uses of gpmc
  • [19:32:45] <unsolo> http://micrel.com/page.do?page=product-info/embedded_control.jsp
  • [19:32:50] <unsolo> prpplague: good
  • [19:33:39] <emeb> unsolo: prpplague: looks like there's enough of the GPMC available to be useful.
  • [19:33:46] <unsolo> emeb: cool
  • [19:33:54] <unsolo> 8 or 16 bit btw ?
  • [19:33:58] <emeb> 16-bit
  • [19:34:05] <unsolo> nice.
  • [19:34:19] <unsolo> the beagleboard should have had that
  • [19:34:21] <prpplague> emeb: dandy
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  • [19:34:50] <emeb> I'll be hooking that bad boy up directly to the FPGA.
  • [19:35:03] <unsolo> <-- also has some experience with that
  • [19:35:24] <unsolo> btw the linux device driver for it is somewhat .. lacking a few features
  • [19:35:39] <emeb> unsolo: driver for the GPMC?
  • [19:35:44] <unsolo> such as utilizing the 2x clk multiplier..
  • [19:35:54] <unsolo> emeb: yea there is a gpmc driver in the kernel
  • [19:36:09] <unsolo> you just set up timings in "ns" and get a working bus..
  • [19:36:32] <unsolo> you may have to export them if youre developing it as a module (eg the sane way)
  • [19:36:36] <emeb> unsolo: interesting. After that it's just a matter of accessing the memory space, no?
  • [19:36:43] <unsolo> emeb: indeed
  • [19:36:54] <unsolo> but it lacks a few features
  • [19:37:00] <zumbi_> unsolo: are you the spu media guy?
  • [19:37:05] <unsolo> such as timing between successive accesses.
  • [19:37:11] <unsolo> zumbi_: indeed i am :)
  • [19:37:12] <emeb> unsolo: so patch it up!
  • [19:37:18] <zumbi_> unsolo: hi! :)
  • [19:37:27] <unsolo> emeb: i could probably do that.
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  • [19:38:10] * emeb wonders if there is any conceivable I/O device that doesn't have at least a stub driver already.
  • [19:38:25] <unsolo> the current driver only allows you to do up to about 200ns separated accesses.. but the gpmc interface can do 400 if you use the timer granularity flag
  • [19:38:45] <unsolo> thats a very slow access but sometimes you dont need full speed..
  • [19:38:47] <emeb> "I got a device driver for the LHC on github"
  • [19:39:09] <unsolo> LHC ?
  • [19:39:28] <emeb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
  • [19:39:38] <unsolo> btw prpplague og emeb if there ever is a chance to do a fpga extension board to the beaglebone let me know..
  • [19:39:51] <unsolo> would be awsome just to stack a fpga on top of it
  • [19:39:58] <emeb> unsolo: working on it as we speak.
  • [19:40:33] <unsolo> what fpga ?
  • [19:40:40] <unsolo> xilinx or a altera ?
  • [19:40:48] <emeb> Xilinx Spartan 3A
  • [19:40:55] <unsolo> cool
  • [19:41:08] <unsolo> will it be possible to order ?
  • [19:41:24] <emeb> The intent is to sell them.
  • [19:41:29] <unsolo> nice
  • [19:41:33] <emeb> We'll see how that goes.
  • [19:42:00] <djlewis_> emeb: there I was thinking you were independently wealthy ;)
  • [19:42:02] <unsolo> hi zumbi_ :)
  • [19:42:21] <emeb> djlewis_: I'm dependently wealthy. :P
  • [19:42:31] <unsolo> no one familiar with the mcasp ?
  • [19:42:36] <emeb> as in "it depends on when the paycheck arrives"
  • [19:42:38] * unsolo will have to read some..
  • [19:42:41] <zumbi_> unsolo: its great to have you around
  • [19:42:59] <zumbi_> unsolo: are you into omap graphics?
  • [19:43:11] <unsolo> zumbi_: hehe well im "just" getting back to the dev scene.. sony kinda made me not want to for a while..
  • [19:43:24] <unsolo> zumbi_: nah .. nothing there yet..
  • [19:43:54] <unsolo> but i was thinking of using an omap interface to something its absolutely not intended for
  • [19:44:06] <unsolo> which if it works is just to damn awsome'
  • [19:44:19] <zumbi_> what is...?
  • [19:44:26] <emeb> now we have to wonder.
  • [19:44:28] <unsolo> but i have to see if mcASP isnt way less valuable than mcbsp..
  • [19:44:47] <emeb> unsolo: the TRM is your friend.
  • [19:45:12] <emeb> AFAICT the mcasp is equivalent to the mcbsp - may be a superset.
  • [19:45:29] <unsolo> or subset
  • [19:45:50] <prpplague> emeb: btw you were right, for some reason i was thinking it was the gpio's on 1/2 but it is dgnd
  • [19:45:51] <emeb> probably doesn't have all the extra goodies that the ones on the OMAP3530 have though (sidechannel filters, etc)
  • [19:45:51] <unsolo> linux device driver for the mcbsp only supports 1/128th of its capacity of awsomeness
  • [19:46:21] <emeb> prpplague: That's good - losing a couple grounds may not be that big a deal.
  • [19:46:26] <unsolo> emeb: the omap companion chip has that feature buildt in
  • [19:46:51] <unsolo> the side channel is just somethign that came with the die from davinci and comes from back in the 54xx dsp days
  • [19:47:28] <emeb> unsolo: never could figure out why those were necessary.
  • [19:48:29] <emeb> prpplague: for the FPGA board I'll probably have to include the DGND pins and suffer the notch in order to preserve signal integrity.
  • [19:48:47] <jonpry> macbsp can't possibly support that data rate
  • [19:48:50] <emeb> prpplague: on an Arduino board with slower I/O it's probably not a big deal though.
  • [19:48:55] <unsolo> jonpry: haha
  • [19:49:08] <unsolo> mcbsp does up to 40Mbit iirc
  • [19:49:40] <emeb> sounds right
  • [19:49:47] <prpplague> emeb: yea for what i'm doing the 4 DGND pins should be good
  • [19:50:03] <jonpry> thats not exactly 128 channel of anything good
  • [19:50:45] <emeb> jonpry: unsolo: I imagine unsolo meant that the McBSP can do a lot more in general than the driver exposes.
  • [19:50:54] <emeb> (not just bandwidth)
  • [19:52:21] <jonpry> mcasp supports up to 384 tdm slots
  • [19:52:27] <jonpry> spdif decoding
  • [19:53:47] <jonpry> wonder if bone has edma
  • [19:55:07] <jonpry> oO it does
  • [19:55:23] <emeb> good thing?
  • [19:56:27] <jonpry> indeed. it can do byte level interleaving. so you can have like linear 32bit buffers for every channel and have it dma'd to packed 24bit stuff in the mcasp
  • [19:56:56] <emeb> oooh! highly complicated output data streams.
  • [19:59:03] <emeb> Wonder if it makes any difference whether I use SPI0 or SPI1?
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  • [20:03:01] <emeb> Stick to SPI0 since SPI1 is also the McASP
  • [20:04:32] <unsolo> jonpry: here is what i think of using the 128 channels for
  • [20:04:43] <unsolo> edma set up to two fixed ram locations
  • [20:05:07] <unsolo> each 128 of 32 bit size.. (only 8 bits on wire)
  • [20:05:19] <unsolo> one is tx the other is rx
  • [20:05:45] <unsolo> on the cable i connect a uC that counts clock cycles from the frame sync .. and get 128 devices attached
  • [20:05:57] <unsolo> or 128 sensors
  • [20:06:10] <unsolo> if i say that each device is a pwm ..
  • [20:06:30] <unsolo> and they do +-128 duty cycle
  • [20:06:52] <unsolo> i could control a total of 256 pwm's and 256 sensors
  • [20:07:04] <unsolo> (not controlling the sensors)
  • [20:07:20] <unsolo> by simply reading and writing in a ram addres per sensor..
  • [20:07:27] <unsolo> now how is that "not" useful ?
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  • [20:08:11] <ynezz> hm, 256 rgb xmas leds
  • [20:08:40] <unsolo> 8 bit color also goes
  • [20:08:57] <unsolo> but one could also mux multiple together to get >8 bit resolution
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  • [20:09:31] <unsolo> im thinking more like servos pressure sensors distance sensors and all other robotic stuff
  • [20:11:20] <unsolo> i need to find the perfect uC to go with the design..
  • [20:11:36] <zumbi_> cortex m3
  • [20:11:49] * emeb likes cortex m3
  • [20:11:58] <zumbi_> its a interrupt crunching machine
  • [20:12:08] <emeb> stm32f100cxtx is cheap
  • [20:12:22] <zumbi_> emeb: how cheap?
  • [20:12:34] <zumbi_> I am playing nowadays with stm32h107
  • [20:12:55] <emeb> 100pc price @ digikey for the 32k flash version is $2
  • [20:13:43] <zumbi_> h107 is more fat, but for prototyping its better fat and then get the system to diet.. (get smaller micro if needed) :)
  • [20:13:55] <zumbi_> stm32 its a big family
  • [20:14:06] <emeb> zumbi_: huge. Lots of wiggle room.
  • [20:14:28] <zumbi_> I also looked to the kinetis family from freescale, but those are cortex m4 (and m3 with dsp instructions)
  • [20:15:17] <unsolo> stm32 is nice
  • [20:15:24] <unsolo> they also have a ultra low power line
  • [20:15:42] <unsolo> but if they come with adc's and pwm's is somewhat important
  • [20:15:48] <zumbi_> yes, but for really ultra low power you can look to the energy micro chips
  • [20:16:13] <unsolo> sub 100uW is good enough for me..
  • [20:16:38] <unsolo> anyhow i wonder if its feasable to use the mcbsp like that..
  • [20:16:45] <zumbi_> and msp430 are quite unbeatable in that sense, but bit expensive for 16-bit micro compared to cortex m3
  • [20:17:14] <emeb> zumbi_: been fiddling with an STM32F4xx last few days. Cortex M4 + FPU + DSP. Pretty nice, but more $$ of course.
  • [20:17:28] <unsolo> zumbi_: the stm32L has a lower power consumption (in idle mode) than a msp430 iirc.
  • [20:18:20] <jonpry> unsolo, i think you would need to use 384 locations on mcasp
  • [20:18:33] <zumbi_> I guess it depends on which msp430.. but I dont really recall it properly
  • [20:18:39] <jonpry> but it might be possible to emulate 128 by sending the same data 3 times
  • [20:19:12] <unsolo> still kinda cool to do something like tha
  • [20:19:15] <unsolo> that..
  • [20:19:29] <unsolo> the mcbsp is actually a TDM interface..
  • [20:20:39] <unsolo> but this use has a far greater potential
  • [20:21:29] <unsolo> btw what is an eCap ?
  • [20:26:51] <unsolo> jonpry: i think using the 384 mode is good enough
  • [20:28:15] <unsolo> since it gives 3x what i had hoped for.
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  • [22:35:55] <ds2> Hmmmmm
  • [22:36:07] <ds2> hey mru, does linaro put out GCC binaries?
  • [22:36:21] <mru> no idea
  • [22:36:33] <mru> well, there are stupid ubuntu packages
  • [22:36:42] <mru> but building from source isn't hard
  • [22:36:46] <ds2> mru: do you have a script or a sane set of flags to compile the gcc source releases?
  • [22:36:58] <mru> the linaro releases don't even need patching to compile
  • [22:37:00] <ds2> it isn't hard...it is getting the configure flags right
  • [22:37:06] <mru> unlike certain other gcc variants
  • [22:37:57] <ds2> mru: or can you paste a working arm cross compile gcc's gcc -v output?
  • [22:38:10] <mru> http://pastie.org/2869420
  • [22:38:28] <ds2> thanks
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  • [22:54:27] <jay6981> i wish there were better GCC documentation regarding the target triple/quadruple stuff
  • [22:55:52] <mru> I wish there were *any* such documentation
  • [22:56:37] <mru> btw, did douglas adams invent that stuff or what? or why else is it a triplet in four parts?
  • [22:57:24] <jay6981> i've often wondered the same thing
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  • [23:05:53] <Guest12546> my beagle is hanging at hwclock: can't open '/dev/misc/rtc': No such file or directory
  • [23:05:59] <Guest12546> I used narcissus to build the rootfs. used the MLO and u-boot.bin from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [23:06:04] <Guest12546> and copied the uImage from the rootfs/boot to the boot partition
  • [23:07:25] <Guest12546> anyone have a suggestion on something else to try?
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  • [23:13:14] <eric2132> do any of you have some tutorials on installing the gstreamer plugin on angstrom?
  • [23:14:32] <mru> opkg install ... ?
  • [23:14:43] <eric2132> ideally yes.
  • [23:17:20] <eric2132> I would like it if the software were to optimize the hardware given by the beagleboard
  • [23:17:32] <mru> huh?
  • [23:18:15] <eric2132> SGX, DSP, etc
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  • [23:18:46] <mru> hardware is, er, hard - software can't optimise it
  • [23:19:59] <eric2132> oh well. I just found a wiki. Thanks
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