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  • [06:50:32] <ka6sox> 24hrs to create a beaglebone kernel... :D
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  • [08:02:18] <_av500_> ka6sox: yeah, had a machine like that in the past too...
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  • [08:27:37] <_av500_> but then I got that 386
  • [08:35:47] <doublebeta> _av500_: Call bull. Unless you were compiling in DOS, you did not have an x86 machine worse than a 386.
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  • [08:36:49] <doublebeta> Though, the reason for his 24h compile was more likely to be horrible disk IO, not processor speed. It took 6 hours to install xfce4 FROM THE DEBIAN REPOS on my Beagleboard-xM - all the result of horrid slow microSD ;)
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  • [09:03:48] <_av500_> doublebeta: right, i was compiling linux as a TSR in DOS
  • [09:04:44] <doublebeta> 0_o
  • [09:04:44] <_av500_> doing virtual memory by swapping floppies was a pain
  • [09:04:49] <doublebeta> not sure if sarcastic
  • [09:05:52] <doublebeta> FREE TREES http://i.imgur.com/C1X1G.gif
  • [09:07:28] <_av500_> and yes, slow sd cards are alow
  • [09:07:30] <_av500_> slow
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  • [10:45:11] <unsolo> doublebeta: if you have a core2 or newer arch i highly suggest increasing thread count > 8
  • [10:45:46] <unsolo> unless you did it on the board it self in which case distcc + cross compile are your friends
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  • [12:58:45] <koen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/comments/28
  • [12:59:38] <dm8tbr> ah the 'file' tuesday bug
  • [13:00:36] <koen> yep
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  • [13:03:11] <Mode-M> hi, I just found out boot command doesn't support mmcinit oder mmc init. is that normal?
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  • [13:12:57] <dm8tbr> yo dawg, we herd you like ericsson mobile phones, so we put some erlang in your printer queue...
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  • [13:48:38] <Mode-M> hi, is it a problem if my boot prompt doesn't know mmc init or mmcinit?
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  • [13:55:13] <Mode-M> mmc rescan works, but mmc still doesn't know a init command
  • [13:55:25] <mru> that's because it was renamed/removed
  • [13:55:41] <mru> rescan does what you need
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  • [14:49:13] <jan_> hi
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  • [15:27:28] <Alistair> Hi guys, yesterday Koen made me aware of Yocto and its eclipse plugin, my question today is, how would this best pair up with the development work for the beagle on the angstrom front? For example, will there be a BeagleBone machine type available for yocto or is the idea that I pair the eclipse plugin up with the angstrom rootfs and simply use that limited subset of the yocto development pipeline?
  • [15:28:24] <koen> Alistair: yocto is a marketing name, but yes, the beaglebone software and angstrom are built on top of openembedded-core
  • [15:30:51] <Alistair> Hi koen, what I mean is, when I download yocto and install it, it creates several presets for bitbake, such as core-image-sato, there are configurable machine types for qemu and a beagleboard option too
  • [15:31:33] <Alistair> should I expect a beaglebone config to becomeavailable or can I only benefit from the eclipse plugin element of yocto?
  • [15:31:57] <Alistair> bitbake targets rather
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  • [15:38:25] <koen> Alistair: follow the instructions on the angstrom website
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  • [15:48:08] <jan_> i am using angstrom on my beagleboard, but now i need the kernel headers to cross compile a module. where do i get the kernel headers?
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  • [15:49:33] <Crofton|work> Alistair, yocto comes with a a small set of demo machines, beaglebone support is via the meta-ti layer
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  • [15:50:58] <koen> jan_: follow the instructions on the angstrom website
  • [15:52:16] <jan_> that means i have to do the whole build process, right?
  • [15:52:31] <koen> I don't know what you mean
  • [15:52:43] <koen> but if you mean that you will need to build the kernel module, yes
  • [15:52:53] <Crofton|work> jan_, you can look at the kernel recipe to get the base git repo
  • [15:52:58] <koen> not much compiling going on if you don't build anything
  • [15:53:12] <koen> Crofton|work: that won't help
  • [15:53:41] * Crofton|work does all his dev out of OE, then builds a recpe from patches + upstream git repo
  • [15:53:58] <jan_> i am trying to cross compile the "compat-wireless" modules
  • [15:54:07] <jan_> and it needs a directory with the kernel headers
  • [15:54:11] <koen> bitbake compat-wirelss
  • [15:54:13] <koen> done
  • [15:54:39] <jan_> mmh ok, i guess i need to read some more
  • [15:54:40] <Crofton|work> jacekowski, are you modifying compat-wireless?
  • [15:54:47] <Crofton|work> oops
  • [15:54:58] <jan_> thank you koen
  • [15:55:40] <jan_> i want a specific module from compat-wireless
  • [15:56:05] <jan_> a lot of wifi modules are already in angstrom
  • [15:56:13] <jan_> but for some reasons my adapter is missing
  • [15:56:24] <Crofton|work> just use OE then, likely easier then doing it yourself, unless you are very familiar with the kernel build process
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  • [15:56:44] <Alistair> ok guys, so am I understanding this right? yocto essencially has its own build settings for OE which differ from the Angstrom shipped on the BeagleBone? I am happy following the Angstrom instructions but it all takes me back to my original question of what's the best way to get an efficient dev pipeline setup with eclipse and the angstrom disto?
  • [15:57:21] <Crofton|work> Alistair, I'm not sure if someone has done that write up yet, but it is a very good question
  • [15:58:25] <Alistair> well I'd be more than happy to contrib to a write-yp / tutorial video but at the moment I'm as lost asany other n00b
  • [15:58:47] <Crofton|work> is there a howto on the yocto site?
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  • [15:59:35] <Alistair> on yocto there's a basic howto build for its own distros
  • [15:59:44] <Alistair> and a video on using the eclipse plugin
  • [15:59:58] <Alistair> but clearly I see this is different from angstrom
  • [16:00:08] <Alistair> though ofc they both source from OE
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  • [16:00:35] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [16:00:45] <Crofton|work> we ned to figure out how to adapt their eclipse stuff
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  • [16:00:59] <Alistair> it looks like a very nice plugin
  • [16:01:22] <Crofton|work> for people that like eclipse :)
  • [16:01:30] <Crofton|work> try asking in #yocto
  • [16:01:57] <Alistair> haha, well I'm not fussy about IDE, though I know with cmake projects I can quickly generate code::Blocks or eclipe projects which pulled me into those two IDEs
  • [16:02:00] <Crofton|work> I'll look at it a little, but not today
  • [16:02:03] <Crofton|work> nice weather here
  • [16:02:31] <Alistair> :P
  • [16:02:56] <Alistair> but thank you
  • [16:03:25] <Alistair> not like I'm in a rush, BeagleBones aren't in-stock yet, I'm just trying to do the prep work before it arrives
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  • [16:06:01] <Crofton|work> I really need to watch the video
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  • [16:06:16] <Crofton|work> and we really need to bother the yocto people to make it more general purpose :)
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  • [16:07:01] <Alistair> haha
  • [16:07:11] <Alistair> well the vid link is ermmm
  • [16:08:07] <Alistair> http://vimeo.com/30557368 - there's a few more videos on that account, I see there are OE tools for eclipse too but reading they are just a subset of what yocto have created
  • [16:09:21] <Alistair> bad news is eclipse support is up to indigo and Ubuntu 11.10 includes helios so haha I may end up downgrading OS again
  • [16:12:04] <Crofton|work> bother the yocto people
  • [16:12:45] <Crofton|work> koen, xfce requires network manager?
  • [16:15:11] <koen> jkridner_ has too much spare time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/6340953150/sizes/o/
  • [16:15:31] <koen> Crofton|work: no, but nm is still the most fool proof GUI for people with wifi
  • [16:15:32] <jkridner_> :)
  • [16:15:57] <jkridner_> I only added it when trying to debug your issue.
  • [16:16:09] <Alistair> :P
  • [16:16:17] <koen> jkridner_: if you have some of that spare time left, try to lighten the image a bit, black text on brown dog can be hard to read
  • [16:16:27] <jkridner_> I am not sure that I helped your issue at all.
  • [16:16:49] <jkridner_> yeah, I had thought the exact same thing and was going to say that if I really had spare time I would have done exactly that.
  • [16:17:02] <koen> I just installed it on my laptop, will hook up bone tomorrow
  • [16:17:24] <jkridner_> I did learn how to do some useful things in pixelmator, so I might have a chance to do so at some point.
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  • [17:07:17] <Alistair> I'm off cheers guys
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  • [17:56:33] <bobkatzz> morning (aft?) all
  • [17:57:22] <bobkatzz> well - have made great progress finally getting Samsung LCD monitor up and running with the right settings
  • [17:58:24] <bobkatzz> did what koen recommended - edited the uenv.txt and it worked great - now I can see all the menus and it's at a fantastic resolution!
  • [17:58:58] <jay6981> anyone know anything about the ARM security extensions? specifically the Security Configuration Register (SCR)?
  • [17:59:15] <bobkatzz> one remianing problem though - whereas before it would find my internet connection right away, it's now not finding it
  • [17:59:37] <bobkatzz> no jay6981 I don't sorry
  • [17:59:46] <mru> jay6981: you can't access the secure stuff on the beagle
  • [18:00:05] <jay6981> :(
  • [18:00:22] <bobkatzz> so I even hooked up my USB ehternet adapter just in case it would find it but that still did not work
  • [18:00:32] <mru> jay6981: what were you hoping to do with it?
  • [18:00:45] <bobkatzz> hey mru - how the "M" ru anyway? :P
  • [18:01:24] <jay6981> mru: mostly just trying to understand the system after ROM hands off to my code??? i was hoping to be able to catch undefined instruction exceptions but I can't seem to
  • [18:01:56] <mru> on the beagle all your code runs in non-secure state
  • [18:02:07] <mru> but that has nothing to do with exceptions
  • [18:02:18] <mru> except those specifically related to secure mode of course
  • [18:02:33] <jay6981> i'm confused because when I try to read the SCR, my code stops??? i expect an undefined instruction exception
  • [18:02:57] <mru> did you set up a handler for that exception?
  • [18:03:01] <jay6981> yep
  • [18:03:12] <mru> correction: you *think* you did
  • [18:03:16] <mru> and you're wrong
  • [18:03:21] <mru> :)
  • [18:03:35] <jay6981> and why is that?
  • [18:03:45] <mru> it didn't do what you expected
  • [18:03:56] <mru> that's pretty much the definition of doing something wrong
  • [18:04:19] <jay6981> that's what i'm trying to find out...
  • [18:04:33] <jay6981> my SVC exception handler works
  • [18:05:00] <mru> good, that's a start
  • [18:05:44] <mru> so which instruction did you expect to trap?
  • [18:06:22] <jay6981> mrc p15, 0, %0, c1, c1, 0;
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  • [18:10:06] <mru> try some other undefined instruction
  • [18:10:21] <mru> or something that's actually undefined, rather
  • [18:10:56] <jay6981> you think all zeros would do it?
  • [18:11:06] <mru> no, that's a valid instruction coding
  • [18:13:55] <jay6981> ti'll try it ???. however, the TRM says that reading the SCR in the non-secure state will result in undefined exception
  • [18:16:26] <bobkatzz> mru: on my BB C I have a flie - conn2inet that has one line /etc/rc0.d/K40netowrking restart and that sets up the internet connection
  • [18:16:44] <bobkatzz> when I try that on the BB XM no dice- any ideas?
  • [18:16:47] <jay6981> so while you are telling me I'm doing something wrong, perhaps the documentation is wrong.
  • [18:17:09] <bobkatzz> this is after it has sutomatically found the internet every other time I've booted up
  • [18:17:15] <ka6sox> koen, it took 29hrs to do...but I have a kernel!
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  • [18:17:39] <mru> btw, all zeros is andeq r0, r0, r0
  • [18:19:11] <bobkatzz> ok going to unplug this cptr and hook back up to xM
  • [18:19:23] <bobkatzz> thanks :)
  • [18:23:04] <koen> ka6sox: I ordered one of these: http://www.adafruit.com/products/358
  • [18:24:09] <koen> would be neat to have it working on the bone
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  • [18:32:12] * mru is still waiting for the bone to arrive
  • [18:32:24] <mru> now they're saying it'll get here on tuesday
  • [18:33:43] <mru> that's over two weeks from ship date
  • [18:33:51] <mru> with "priority" delivery no less
  • [18:34:20] <koen> wth?
  • [18:34:21] <koen> https://github.com/jadonk/beaglebone-getting-started/commit/73912d29a2a1e494acb21f7f7f52ff6d43152e14?diff-0=0-0&diff-1=0-97
  • [18:34:26] <koen> github supports image diffs
  • [18:34:49] <ka6sox> koen, if that was a TS too it would be awesome D:
  • [18:35:04] <mru> koen: that's not really a diff
  • [18:35:46] <mru> it should do a per-pixel difference display
  • [18:42:46] <koen> mru: check below the images
  • [18:42:55] <koen> it offers a few choices
  • [18:42:59] <koen> one of them is 'diff'
  • [18:43:27] <jay6981> neat
  • [18:43:43] <koen> well, 'Difference' to be exact
  • [18:43:45] <koen> 2-up Swipe Onion Skin Difference
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  • [18:52:26] <ka6sox> I really don't want to have to put a CPLD or a level shifter on this board for 2 bits :P
  • [18:57:32] <jay6981> tried executing an all ones instruction??? still no luck trying to take an undefined exception???
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  • [19:01:40] <jay6981> mru: do you have any reference regarding not being able to access the arm secure stuff on beagleboard?
  • [19:08:47] <ka6sox> koen, beaglebone is not use PRU at all right now?
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  • [19:09:42] <ka6sox> koen, bone does not use the PRU currently?
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  • [19:17:46] <koen> ka6sox: no public driver for it yet
  • [19:23:04] <ka6sox> kk
  • [19:23:33] <ka6sox> probably for the first work won't be necessary.
  • [19:23:51] <ka6sox> if it keeps up with 60mm/sec that would be fine.
  • [19:25:31] <koen> :)
  • [19:26:03] <koen> I have my 5d-shield working, so Im only a proper 5d skeinforge profile away from printing mendelmax bits
  • [19:26:22] <koen> I still dislike the placement of the Y motor and z rods
  • [19:29:12] <ka6sox> where else would you put them?
  • [19:29:23] <ka6sox> unless you pinch under teh table the Y?
  • [19:29:29] <ka6sox> and Z is a PITA>
  • [19:29:45] <ka6sox> I bought Ballscrews...
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  • [19:30:57] <koen> I still like the darwin design
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  • [19:56:38] <misham> Hi all, I'm trying to get an MT9P031 camera from Leopard imaging working with my BeagleBoard-xM rev C. The camera is attached via the camera interface. I'm using Kernel 3.2-rc1 with patches for that camera applied. Has anyone had any luck getting this camera to work?
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  • [20:01:20] <koen> with 2.6.32, yes
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  • [20:02:48] <misham> koen: did you use the Aptina drivers for this and did you have to do anything special to turn on the camera or did it just work?
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  • [21:24:27] * _av500_ still wonders what that magical eclipse plugin does....
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  • [21:29:10] <dm8tbr> _av500_: magic, obviously - duuuuuh
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  • [21:35:53] <coppermine> any of you run gentoo on a beagle?
  • [21:36:37] <coppermine> i dont own one, i wanted someone to run this command for me at /proc/cpuinfo |grep -i bogo
  • [21:37:21] <coppermine> *cat
  • [21:42:53] <koen> you do know that bogomips stands for bogus mips, no?
  • [21:43:00] <_av500_> and that hasto be gentoo?
  • [21:43:06] <coppermine> no it doesnt
  • [21:43:10] <coppermine> 2 seperate questions
  • [21:43:12] <unsolo> lol
  • [21:43:14] <coppermine> :)
  • [21:43:16] <coppermine> im considering it
  • [21:43:19] <coppermine> and im a gentoo user
  • [21:43:24] <unsolo> coppermine: i have considered running gentoo on my beagle..
  • [21:43:29] <coppermine> and wanted to compare the mips with my curretn embeddedarm board
  • [21:43:47] <_av500_> no, you wanted to compare the bogomips
  • [21:43:48] <coppermine> looking at the 1Ghz a8 model
  • [21:43:50] <coppermine> looks nice
  • [21:43:56] <coppermine> _av500_: thats right
  • [21:44:04] <coppermine> grep bogo is part of bogomips
  • [21:44:08] <unsolo> coppermine: the fact is that since i havent bothered to make my build machine do magic wakeup and shutdown. gentoo is just to painful for it
  • [21:44:08] <_av500_> how much is yours?
  • [21:44:21] <coppermine> about 200
  • [21:44:27] <coppermine> its a 396mhz cpu
  • [21:44:29] <coppermine> low power
  • [21:44:32] <unsolo> however build time should be somewhat better than angstrom
  • [21:44:47] <coppermine> using arm9 cpu
  • [21:45:25] <unsolo> coppermine: the a8 will be an improvement
  • [21:45:28] <coppermine> unsolo: gentoo has packages in portage for wakeonlan too
  • [21:45:35] <_av500_> then comparing bogomips is even less useful
  • [21:45:38] <unsolo> coppermine: im just lazy ;)
  • [21:47:11] <coppermine> where can i buy the video connector
  • [21:47:13] <coppermine> for the beagle
  • [21:47:22] <coppermine> for VGA 9pin
  • [21:47:26] <coppermine> or 15 pin i think
  • [21:47:29] <unsolo> oO
  • [21:47:39] <unsolo> i just use the hdmi ..
  • [21:47:46] <coppermine> does it come with it
  • [21:47:49] <coppermine> any video cables?
  • [21:47:50] <_av500_> coppermine: nowhere
  • [21:48:00] <_av500_> it has no vga out
  • [21:48:01] <unsolo> its hdmi or s-video right ?
  • [21:48:06] <_av500_> yep
  • [21:48:07] <coppermine> oh alright
  • [21:48:12] <coppermine> so i need an adapter
  • [21:48:17] <_av500_> no
  • [21:48:18] <coppermine> to convert to vga analog or dvi
  • [21:48:19] <_av500_> it has no vga out
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  • [21:48:35] <unsolo> and get the XM rather than the normal one for the extra mips..
  • [21:48:46] <_av500_> extra bogomips
  • [21:48:53] <unsolo> hehe
  • [21:48:54] <_av500_> coppermine: no vga out
  • [21:48:58] <bobkatzz_BB> av500: hey druid!
  • [21:49:02] <coppermine> _av500_: right thats why I said i need an adapter
  • [21:49:03] <coppermine> to convert
  • [21:49:07] <_av500_> no
  • [21:49:15] <_av500_> no analog out on the dvi
  • [21:49:27] <coppermine> so how do i connec to an lcd
  • [21:49:35] <_av500_> unless your adaptor cost $50 ...
  • [21:49:42] <_av500_> coppermine: gasp, there are dvi lcds
  • [21:49:58] <coppermine> does it come with the cable?
  • [21:50:03] <bobkatzz_BB> mru: there?
  • [21:50:04] <_av500_> what?
  • [21:50:23] <coppermine> i just found out the questions are ansered on the nte
  • [21:50:25] <coppermine> net
  • [21:50:27] <coppermine> ill read there
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  • [21:50:40] <bobkatzz_BB> av500: hey druid!
  • [21:50:44] <_av500_> that net looks like a nice thing to have
  • [21:50:49] <_av500_> i think i will order one
  • [21:50:52] <_av500_> bobkatzz_BB: shoot
  • [21:51:28] <bobkatzz_BB> yep finally got it on my xM - had to reboot the modem was all (after 3+ hours of dicking around with eth0 settings ) hehe
  • [21:52:21] <bobkatzz_BB> so now I'm on the I.N. :P
  • [21:52:40] <_av500_> that thing al gore invented?
  • [21:52:45] <unsolo> lol
  • [21:53:07] <bobkatzz_BB> yep! that one - So I'm trying to compile some SDR software - soft66
  • [21:53:56] <bobkatzz_BB> did you see koen's beagleBone/BeagleJuice setup? naaace!
  • [21:54:05] <_av500_> i did
  • [21:54:09] <bobkatzz_BB> + LCD
  • [21:54:15] <_av500_> its too big
  • [21:54:15] <bobkatzz_BB> me want one
  • [21:54:20] <bobkatzz_BB> hehe
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  • [21:55:11] <unsolo> im guessing beaglejuice is a battery
  • [21:55:14] <bobkatzz_BB> i have gcc on my BB but the compiler can'
  • [21:55:23] <bobkatzz_BB> t find it
  • [21:55:38] <unsolo> opkg install gcc-devel
  • [21:55:56] <bobkatzz_BB> do I have to set an ENV variable?
  • [21:56:03] <_av500_> normally not
  • [21:56:18] <_av500_> type "gcc"
  • [21:56:22] <bobkatzz_BB> i'm compiling from /home/bobkatzz
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  • [21:56:47] <bobkatzz_BB> sh: gcc: not found
  • [21:57:04] <_av500_> opkg install gcc-devel
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  • [21:57:16] <_av500_> or whatever the needed package is called
  • [21:57:19] <coppermine> _av500_: the right answer was this http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=wm19090-nd&WT.z_slp_buy=TI_BeagleBoard
  • [21:57:22] <unsolo> in somewhat context related.. anyone using narcissius + toolchain to compile on "host" not target ?
  • [21:57:26] <coppermine> might want to tell that to the next guy who asks you
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  • [21:57:43] <bobkatzz_BB> but it is there
  • [21:58:00] <_av500_> contempt: for $12 this is not right but wrong
  • [21:58:02] <unsolo> bobkatzz_BB: printenv | grep PATH
  • [21:58:15] <_av500_> contempt: oops
  • [21:58:19] <mru> bobkatzz_BB: pong
  • [21:58:46] <bobkatzz_BB> hey mru happy?
  • [21:59:20] <bobkatzz_BB> hmm
  • [21:59:28] <unsolo> _av500_: dont know how a dvi will get him vha
  • [21:59:33] <unsolo> s/vha/vga
  • [21:59:35] <_av500_> unsolo: it wont
  • [21:59:38] <bobkatzz_BB> av500: it says "/lib/libgcc_s.so.1"
  • [21:59:40] <_av500_> hes confused
  • [21:59:41] <unsolo> i know..
  • [21:59:58] * unsolo is going to hang here for a while..
  • [22:00:02] <bobkatzz_BB> ok thanks unsolo
  • [22:00:59] <bobkatzz_BB> unsolo: "sh: printenv: not found"
  • [22:01:02] <bobkatzz_BB> :D
  • [22:01:14] <_av500_> bobkatzz_BB: do you have a gcc binary?
  • [22:01:21] <bobkatzz_BB> I must be in a lost continent of BeagleLand
  • [22:01:35] <bobkatzz_BB> um not sure
  • [22:01:38] <_av500_> find / -name "gcc"
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  • [22:01:48] <bobkatzz_BB> I can just opkg it again mebe
  • [22:02:23] <bobkatzz_BB> I know that FLDigi needs that to run and it runs fine
  • [22:03:28] <bobkatzz_BB> ah ok so I found libgcc but not plain old plain gcc
  • [22:04:15] <_av500_> so you need to install gcc
  • [22:04:19] <_av500_> adn friends
  • [22:04:21] <_av500_> and
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  • [22:04:37] <_av500_> mru: btw, felipe is seriously outtrolling you
  • [22:04:38] <bobkatzz_BB> yep doin that now - got cornfused between libgcc and the g-type - cc
  • [22:04:57] <bobkatzz_BB> yeah
  • [22:06:14] <bobkatzz_BB> ok - got it - but ./configure still says "checking for gcc... no"
  • [22:06:25] <_av500_> type gcc
  • [22:06:37] <bobkatzz_BB> < - - thinking I have to point it there
  • [22:06:42] <_av500_> no
  • [22:06:52] <bobkatzz_BB> yep - not found heh
  • [22:06:53] <_av500_> find / -name "gcc"
  • [22:07:38] <bobkatzz_BB> "/usr/lib/gcc /usr/libexec/gcc"
  • [22:07:52] <bobkatzz_BB> it's dere - rriere :P
  • [22:08:05] <_av500_> these are folders
  • [22:08:13] <_av500_> you need /usr/bin/gcc or so
  • [22:09:17] <bobkatzz_BB> hmmm
  • [22:09:39] <bobkatzz_BB> this is your life on Angstrom hehe
  • [22:09:42] <_av500_> bobkatzz_BB: opkg install task-native-sdk
  • [22:09:54] <bobkatzz_BB> okay - will do
  • [22:10:39] <bobkatzz_BB> flex-dev: unsatisfied recommendation for virtual-locale-ro-dev
  • [22:10:44] <bobkatzz_BB> is that serious?
  • [22:11:26] <bobkatzz_BB> hmm - ok it's still running there
  • [22:12:31] <bobkatzz_BB> wow - lotsa stuff!
  • [22:12:43] <bobkatzz_BB> bet I needed all that :P
  • [22:13:54] <bobkatzz_BB> so once I get all this hooked up I'm going to bribe the maintenance man here to let me put a 160M full wave loop on the roof (15 th floor)
  • [22:14:41] <bobkatzz_BB> bet I can hit JA from here (KCMO temporary headquarters of KC4NYK)
  • [22:15:16] <bobkatzz_BB> wow - STILL downloading and installing stuff
  • [22:15:23] <bobkatzz_BB> <--- was VERY deficient heh
  • [22:16:21] <bobkatzz_BB> mru: the whole eth0 boondogle was just that my DSL modem needed to be rebooted :P
  • [22:16:41] <bobkatzz_BB> that cost me 3+ hours of my life hehe
  • [22:17:44] <bobkatzz_BB> ewww - this doesn'
  • [22:17:56] <bobkatzz_BB> t look good av500
  • [22:18:02] <bobkatzz_BB> Collected errors: * check_data_file_clashes: Package libmenuw5 wants to install file /usr/lib/libmenuw.so.5 But that file is already provided by package * libmenuw * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package task-native-sdk.
  • [22:18:20] <mru> bobkatzz_BB: hehe
  • [22:18:23] <bobkatzz_BB> SHOULD i REMOVE THAT FILE?
  • [22:18:28] <mru> _av500_: the autotools thing?
  • [22:18:34] <mru> you call that trolling?
  • [22:18:43] <bobkatzz_BB> sorry - hit the freakin Caps lock :P
  • [22:19:29] <_av500_> bobkatzz_BB: no idea, i dont do nagstrom
  • [22:19:45] <bobkatzz_BB> really? what do you run on BB?
  • [22:19:57] <_av500_> but that task native foo is what has been proposed here before
  • [22:20:02] <_av500_> and the nets seem to agreee
  • [22:20:14] <_av500_> bobkatzz_BB: i hang out on irc
  • [22:20:25] <bobkatzz_BB> ok I'll just temporarily rename that file and see if it goes
  • [22:20:37] <_av500_> i do omap3 and 4 in my dayjob already
  • [22:20:50] <bobkatzz_BB> I hang out on 20 meters :P
  • [22:21:14] <bobkatzz_BB> ah - and I do UI Flex/Flash GUI stuff
  • [22:21:28] <_av500_> not any more, adobe has so killed it :)
  • [22:21:39] <bobkatzz_BB> so I really need to sit in front of a computer all day today hehe
  • [22:21:52] <bobkatzz_BB> but I biked 10+ miles yesterday - not bad
  • [22:23:07] <bobkatzz_BB> you can say that again - so you are privy to the s:/mx: conundrum/boondogle/craphoot/disorganized/don'thave theirs...ttogether side of adobe? :D
  • [22:24:08] <bobkatzz_BB> like you can't embed font in mx components unless you turn on the FTE engine that then hoses your entire build? yep
  • [22:24:57] <bobkatzz_BB> so we are writing a class that gets around that and then we're going to sell it back to Adobe haha
  • [22:24:59] <_av500_> bobkatzz_BB: actually it was about the no more flash on mobile thing
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  • [22:25:50] <bobkatzz_BB> ah well - as much as I've been a Flash rpoponent and pioneer (i.e. arrows in back) I think html5 will take care of all of that
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  • [22:27:46] <bobkatzz_BB> ok removed that offending file and going for opkg II
  • [22:28:26] <bobkatzz_BB> it will no doubt just lead me to the next offense hehe
  • [22:29:21] <bobkatzz_BB> did you read Job's article on why no Flash? I thought it quite sensible - even though I was originally pissed
  • [22:29:42] <_av500_> flash belong inside an AIR-tight box
  • [22:29:48] <_av500_> and that is where it is going
  • [22:29:52] <bobkatzz_BB> HEY! GCC installed !!
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  • [22:29:57] <_av500_> too bad that html5 wont follow soon
  • [22:30:24] <bobkatzz_BB> anything done by committee or cosortium = looooong time lines
  • [22:30:59] <bobkatzz_BB> a good book to read is "Leading Change" then you won't have too many expectations hehe
  • [22:31:24] <bobkatzz_BB> and "The Dissemination of Innovation" that's good too - same vien
  • [22:32:49] <bobkatzz_BB> see? - I told ya - > "checking whether the C compiler works... no"
  • [22:32:58] <_av500_> type gcc
  • [22:33:12] <bobkatzz_BB> so opkg c compiler? :P
  • [22:33:18] <_av500_> nah
  • [22:33:24] <bobkatzz_BB> don't think so
  • [22:33:29] <_av500_> type gcc
  • [22:33:48] <bobkatzz_BB> maybe another env var/path thingy
  • [22:33:59] <_av500_> try to run gcc
  • [22:34:38] <bobkatzz_BB> it found - gcc: no input files
  • [22:34:42] <bobkatzz_BB> so it did find it
  • [22:34:50] <_av500_> ok, you you have a gcc now
  • [22:34:53] <bobkatzz_BB> just now sending any args mebbe
  • [22:35:01] <bobkatzz_BB> yep :P
  • [22:37:07] <_av500_> run that configure script from the same terminal now
  • [22:37:18] <bobkatzz_BB> again?
  • [22:37:49] <bobkatzz_BB> checking whether the C compiler works... no configure: error: in `/home/root/soft66': configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details
  • [22:38:06] <bobkatzz_BB> whoami = root
  • [22:38:21] <bobkatzz_BB> just FYI
  • [22:38:59] <_av500_> well, then check config.log
  • [22:39:22] <_av500_> it will ist the gcc command line executed and the error
  • [22:39:38] <_av500_> or pastebin the whole file
  • [22:39:44] <bobkatzz_BB> yeah - I did but it doesn't send any warnings or errors
  • [22:40:05] <_av500_> did what?
  • [22:40:07] <bobkatzz_BB> ok - what's that pastebin URL again? it's been a while hehe
  • [22:40:16] <_av500_> pastebin.com
  • [22:40:17] <_av500_> or so
  • [22:40:22] <_av500_> your borwser knows
  • [22:43:34] <bobkatzz_BB> http://pastebin.com/Hx4ZT3NM
  • [22:43:39] <bobkatzz_BB> there ya go
  • [22:44:08] <_av500_> er no
  • [22:44:13] <_av500_> the file config.log
  • [22:44:26] <_av500_> as in "See `config.log' for more details"
  • [22:45:01] <bobkatzz_BB> that is the config.log
  • [22:45:14] <_av500_> hmm
  • [22:45:35] <_av500_> wierd
  • [22:45:38] <bobkatzz_BB> dats da wun
  • [22:45:51] <bobkatzz_BB> yeah the compiler borks
  • [22:51:06] <bobkatzz_BB> oh well
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  • [23:16:03] <xxiao> using angstrom oe-core, a wrong symlink: setup-scripts/sources/meta-angstrom/recipes-angstrom/angstrom/omap3-mkcard/omap3-mkcard.sh --> ../../../contrib/angstrom/omap3-mkcard.sh should be contrib/omap3-mkcard.sh
  • [23:17:52] <xxiao> koen: also in sources/meta-ti/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-ti81xx-psp-2.6.37/dm816x-evm where is a dm816x-evm->dm816x-evm, is it correct?
  • [23:20:00] <xxiao> s/where/there/
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  • [23:24:31] <bobkatzz_BB> av500: sorry - firefox borked hehe
  • [23:25:43] <bobkatzz_BB> so Jaykob Dylan playing here tonight - so I'm off to see what that's all aobut
  • [23:25:59] <bobkatzz_BB> it's right across the street so what's not to like?
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  • [23:26:33] <bobkatzz_BB> thanks for the input/suggestions I'm sure I'll get things working here soon
  • [23:26:53] <bobkatzz_BB> av500: mru nighty night guys
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