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[00:20:17] <trevor_> hi
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[00:30:55] <Tootsie> has anybody gotten audio out working on the xm?
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[00:44:56] <trevor_> hi
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[02:27:09] <chrisw957_home> I'm running angstrom, using a 3.0.6 kernel that I built. I used opkg to install cmem module, but it seems that it installed a version for 3.0.7 kernel. (cmemk.ko is in /lib/modules/3.0.7+/kernel...)
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[02:27:57] <chrisw957_home> Is this as expected?
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[03:00:28] <ds2> hmmm
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[03:11:57] <emeb_mac> mhhhhhh
[03:13:29] <ds2> any new walls of dirt?
[03:13:52] <emeb_mac> ds2: nope - weather has been fairly calm. Hot, but calm
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[05:43:46] <ka6sox> its 7:37am! go get coffee
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[05:44:49] <student> hello has nayone tried to interface any device on spi on beagle board?
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[05:45:17] <student> i am trying to interface a device on mcspi3, but my SOMI line is always reading zero only
[05:45:28] <student> can anyone let me know the possible issue
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[06:19:46] <ds2> brain mind interface failure?
[06:22:31] <doublebeta> student: you're certain it's not open drain -> needs pullups?
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[06:23:03] <doublebeta> gtg, cooking dinner
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[06:29:44] <student> in my board-omap3beagle.c i am chaging th emux as omap_mux_init_signal("sdmmc2_dat0.mcspi3_somi", OMAP_PIN_INPUT_PULLUP)) for my MISO pin
[06:30:13] <student> doublebeta : so i am setting the mux mode for my read pin as mentioned above
[06:30:35] <student> but still my read line is always readin zeros only
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[06:47:42] <doublebeta> ok, to the best of my understanding, if it's set that way, you need a 47k or so pullup resistor, then you should get 1 and 0.
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[07:21:06] <student> doublebeta : what i did now was i was trying to writr 0x55 and then read it but it's giving 0x85
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[07:26:54] <doublebeta> at least there's ones.
[07:27:05] <doublebeta> ...that or noise.
[07:27:12] <doublebeta> is it always 0x85?
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[07:37:52] <student> doublebeta: i am trying to write 0x55 in an infinite loop and trying to read it. while reading its always ox85 only
[07:39:03] <doublebeta> hm. As I said yesterday, I've never done this.
[07:39:18] <doublebeta> I'm running on intuition and unrelated experiments only.
[07:41:38] <student> doublebeta : ok
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[08:14:08] <Beagle4> bonjour tout le monde
[08:14:09] <Beagle4> hello all
[08:14:33] <Beagle4> I want to change the beagleboard.org logo at boot time
[08:14:44] <Beagle4> so I want to recompile the angstrom kernel
[08:14:46] <Beagle4> to change it
[08:14:50] <Beagle4> is it good ?
[08:14:59] <Beagle4> good way ?
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[08:19:44] <juhsis> do you have any idea for this error : "VIDIOC_QUERYMENU: Invalid argument"
[08:20:13] <juhsis> i get this error when i tried to Load camera
[08:20:18] <juhsis> in my project
[08:20:54] <juhsis> http://pastebin.com/J7FeUYtA
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[08:25:49] <Beagle4> anyone ?
[08:26:10] <woglinde> what?
[08:31:05] <koen> Beagle4: have you looked at the angstrom website?
[08:35:01] <juhsis> koen : do you have any idea ?
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[08:39:18] <juhsis> av500 : ^ ?
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[09:04:56] <Beagle4> koen: Yes, but I don't found the logo file of the original beagleboard
[09:05:10] <Beagle4> I think it is a .ppm but I don't see it
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[09:40:41] <juhsis> pls help! i get this error and cant find solution : libv4l1: error allocating v4l1 buffer: Cannot allocate memory
[09:44:57] <kblin> seems like you need more memory
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[09:47:41] <juhsis> no i have
[09:48:01] <juhsis> how many memory it needs?
[09:48:12] <kblin> how much are you trying to allocate?
[09:48:31] <juhsis> captureL = cvCaptureFromCAM( CAM_ORDER ); //first camera
[09:48:47] <juhsis> size of this
[09:49:00] <kblin> I don't know jack about libv4l1, but you're clearly trying to allocate a chunk of memory that your system can't provide
[09:49:26] <juhsis> so how can i fix this
[09:51:55] <kblin> you probably need to create a smaller capture buffer, no idea how to do that with your API
[09:52:20] <juhsis> opencv :/
[09:52:38] <juhsis> ok i will try to specify more memory available
[09:52:48] <juhsis> thanks for help
[09:52:52] <kblin> well, your gooogle is as good as mine :)
[09:53:05] <juhsis> :)
[09:53:12] <kblin> probably has more o, too
[09:53:24] <juhsis> lol
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[12:54:28] <hitlin37> android servers are up again!
[12:56:59] <woglinde> htinlin what?
[12:57:14] <woglinde> ice scream sandwich for beagle?
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[12:58:31] <perter-jim> omap3 missed VSYNC, How to do??
[12:59:12] <perter-jim> This indicates that We received VSYNC interrupt
[12:59:12] <perter-jim> without GO_LCD bit getting cleared
[12:59:12] <perter-jim> (without updating overlay internal registers)
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[13:00:39] <perter-jim> please help me
[13:00:42] <perter-jim> thanks
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[13:01:38] <hitlin37> NO ICS,2.3.7
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[13:15:43] <juhsis> guys what is that means, http://pastebin.com/NLsV7T3R while booting up beagleboard
[13:17:37] <mru> is that exactly what was printed to the terminal?
[13:18:00] <juhsis> yes
[13:18:11] <juhsis> want to see all terminal?
[13:18:13] <mru> please paste the entire boot log
[13:18:53] <juhsis> http://pastebin.com/2J9pAUwq
[13:19:25] <mru> your filesystem is fucked up
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[13:19:52] <juhsis> :)
[13:20:06] <juhsis> i have just download this image from narcissus
[13:20:13] <mru> something is seriously wrong with it
[13:20:44] <mru> looks like it wasn't properly written to the card
[13:20:55] <juhsis> yes it is :/
[13:20:55] <mru> see line 228
[13:21:14] <mru> the filesystem was damaged and the kernel tried to recover it
[13:21:28] <mru> how did you create the sd card?
[13:21:43] <juhsis> with makecard.txt
[13:22:04] <juhsis> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
[13:22:11] <juhsis> downloaded from here
[13:23:21] <juhsis> am i have to do it again ?
[13:23:36] <juhsis> with same file that i have just downloaded from narcissus?
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[13:25:37] <mru> looks like you didn't allow the card to finish writing before pulling it
[13:26:07] <juhsis> actually i did umount /dev/sde1 , umount /dev/sde2 , sync
[13:26:15] <juhsis> after finish
[13:26:34] <mru> you clearly did something wrong
[13:26:56] <mru> wipe the card and try again
[13:27:00] <juhsis> ok
[13:27:15] <mru> the messages clearly indicate a badly corrupted filesystem
[13:27:24] <mru> e.g. EXT3-fs error (device mmcblk0p2): ext3_lookup: deleted inode ref5
[13:27:25] <juhsis> i will also note what i did, and paste them to pastebin
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[13:35:26] <jonand> sdcards are not very reliable... pretty close to the same problems you had with floppy discs 20 years ago.
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[13:45:06] <juhsis> http://pastebin.com/Pwns8Ms1
[13:45:09] <juhsis> is it okay?
[13:48:07] <mru> jonand: buy better cards
[13:48:26] <mru> sandisk cards are usually good
[13:50:25] <juhsis> http://pastebin.com/5DNP20nG
[13:50:44] <juhsis> mru : i use sandisk , but errors :)
[13:51:19] <jonand> mru: exactly. just like floppys were 20 years ago. :) that said I have seen broken kingston and sandisk cards too so you never know.
[13:51:33] <mru> kingston is crap
[13:51:49] <mru> they buy random flash chips and slap their logo on them
[13:52:04] <mru> depending on what was cheap that week, you could get anything
[13:52:05] <jonand> kingston is supplied with the beagleboard, right?
[13:52:17] <mru> probably because it's cheap
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[13:56:20] <juhsis> mru : when booting up it generally says permission denied
[13:56:53] <mru> yes, because your card is busted
[13:57:01] <mru> it's running the init stuff as user 33
[13:57:11] <mru> the messages say so
[14:00:16] <juhsis> pff :/
[14:00:34] <juhsis> but 3 in a row :/ i think there must be another problem
[14:04:54] <mru> yes, your card is fucked
[14:05:02] <mru> or your filesystem, whatever
[14:05:51] <juhsis> however i will try tomorrow with a new narcissus image
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[16:04:01] <bgamari> Are there any tricks to debugging SIGILLs?
[16:04:10] <bgamari> An instruction trace would be extremely useful
[16:04:30] <bgamari> I'm looking at $lr but it doesn't seem to be pointing me in any useful direction
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[16:04:54] <bgamari> There's ETM but my only JTAG interface is a bus pirate
[16:05:26] <bgamari> and I've read that OpenOCD has difficulty interfacing with the ETM after linux has booted
[16:05:55] <mru> sigill is usually trivial to debug
[16:06:00] <mru> just find the offending instruction
[16:06:03] <mru> and fix it
[16:06:18] <bgamari> mru: Unfortunately I think the problem is I'm branching to the middle of nowhere
[16:06:19] <mru> do you get a core dump?
[16:06:27] <bgamari> The relocation code is wrong
[16:06:39] <bgamari> unfortunately I don't know what type of relocation brought me here
[16:06:45] <mru> oh wait, you're rolling your own os
[16:06:51] <bgamari> mru: No, my own linker
[16:07:14] <bgamari> mru: I'm bringing up the Glasgow Haskell Compiler on ARM
[16:07:14] <mru> slightly less crazy
[16:07:35] <bgamari> I really do wish they didn't have their own linker but the situation is what it is
[16:07:50] <bgamari> it seems slightly insane to have yet another linker
[16:07:55] <mru> you can always choose to not use haskell at all
[16:08:03] <bgamari> apparently they wanted the ability to link static objects at runtime
[16:08:24] <mru> functional programming is mainly of academic interest anyway
[16:08:29] <bgamari> I disagree
[16:08:33] <mru> of course you do
[16:08:57] <bgamari> I've really enjoyed it so far
[16:09:27] <mru> I didn't say it wasn't interesting
[16:09:43] <mru> but for solving real computing problems it's not of much use
[16:10:05] <bgamari> no no, I understand. You are in large part right. It certainly doesn't have the user base that many imperative languages have. There's probably a reason for that
[16:10:14] <mru> programs are slow and/or consume insane amounts of memory
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[16:10:43] <mru> computers are inherently imperative
[16:10:47] <bgamari> mru: Not necessarily, I've written very clean haskell which compiled to code comparable to C in performance
[16:10:59] <mru> did it do anything useful?
[16:11:05] <bgamari> Monte carlo
[16:11:10] <mru> monte carlo what?
[16:11:14] <bgamari> it was a simple code
[16:11:23] <mru> exactly
[16:11:46] <mru> try something a few million lines of code in size
[16:11:47] <bgamari> It was a monte carlo simulation of photophysical effects in a single molecule fluorescence system
[16:11:59] <bgamari> mru: Fair enough, perhaps you are right
[16:12:14] <bgamari> but for my tasks I've found it very well suited and a lot of fun to work in
[16:12:18] <mru> functioonal programming languages are still interesting
[16:12:31] <mru> they enable other ways of reasoning about problems
[16:12:51] <bgamari> yep, hence my interest in GHC
[16:12:53] <mru> and can give insights eventually resulting in better procedural compilers
[16:13:16] <mru> but we already have good lisp and scheme implementations
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[16:13:42] <mru> trying to make functional languages compete realistically with C is wasted effort
[16:14:27] <bgamari> perhaps
[16:15:07] <bgamari> But would you have any suggestions in beating down this SIGILL/SIGV (the problem manifests itself as both it seems)
[16:16:04] <bgamari> I started writing a small tool to single step (via ptrace) through a program and record the last N instructions in a ring buffer
[16:16:12] <bgamari> but I'm afraid this will be far too slow
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[16:17:30] <mru> do you get a core dump?
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[16:17:45] <bgamari> I could get a core dump
[16:17:54] <mru> well, get one
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[16:18:03] <bgamari> I'm running under gdb so I have the state of the thing when it crashes
[16:18:10] <mru> same thing
[16:18:10] <bgamari> alright
[16:18:51] <bgamari> I've been looking at $lr, hoping it would point me back to the last branch
[16:19:00] <bgamari> which would hopefully have an associated relocation
[16:19:06] <bgamari> unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case
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[16:19:54] <mru> run "info registers" and "disas $lr-32, $lr+32" and pastebin the result
[16:21:24] <bgamari> http://pastebin.com/3Mgg628N
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[16:23:13] <bgamari> Looks like that's probably not code as well, eh?
[16:24:24] <mru> looks like gdb is too stupid to mask off the thumb bit in $lr
[16:24:55] <bgamari> alright
[16:25:07] <bgamari> I'll try again masking this time
[16:25:15] <bgamari> unfortunately that process died
[16:25:21] <bgamari> It'll be of another run
[16:25:38] <bgamari> it pretty much always crashes in the same region though
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[16:29:43] <bgamari> Hmm
[16:29:51] <bgamari> mru: This time the thumb bit wasn't set
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[16:30:22] <bgamari> http://pastebin.com/Chh64PQm
[16:31:30] <mru> well, that at least looks like code
[16:31:37] <mru> it even makes sense
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[16:31:59] <gentoo> hello
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[16:32:58] <mru> bgamari: the code around $lr is setting up arguments for and calling a function, then checking the return value for error
[16:33:00] <bgamari> mru: Yep, and it looks like it arrived there through a ARM_MOVW or ARM_MOVT
[16:33:26] <mru> so that code is sane as such
[16:33:27] <gentoo> anyone managed to get the beagleboard-xm working with gentoo?
[16:33:28] <bgamari> ahh, I see that
[16:33:38] <gentoo> i just had a good go at it and am stuck
[16:33:47] <mru> it's calling a function at 0x425e26f8
[16:33:47] <gentoo> its loaded the kernel and failing to load the file system
[16:34:05] <mru> things blow up inside that function
[16:34:07] <gentoo> although
[16:34:08] <gentoo> VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(179,2)
[16:34:16] <gentoo> b302 3804160 mmcblk0p2
[16:34:20] <gentoo> it exists :(
[16:34:59] <bgamari> mru: Ahh, looks like 425e26f0 is the veneer for an ARM_CALL
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[16:35:11] <bgamari> Because it overflowed
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[16:36:20] <bgamari> The venner
[16:36:26] <bgamari> veneer looks reasonable
[16:36:47] <bgamari> http://pastebin.com/7tM2Lm9e
[16:37:17] <gentoo> i get
[16:37:19] <gentoo> Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
[16:37:23] <gentoo> :/
[16:37:53] <mru> bgamari: why is it calling the veneer?
[16:38:03] <mru> or trying to
[16:38:19] <bgamari> mru: The target overflowed I think
[16:38:24] <bgamari> it's not due to reworking
[16:38:40] <bgamari> overflowing is the only other reason I call veneer
[16:38:43] <mru> there should be no need for a veneer there
[16:38:51] <bgamari> hmm
[16:39:00] <mru> oh, branch was too long?
[16:39:03] <bgamari> yep
[16:39:20] <mru> but you missed the veneer by 8 bytes
[16:39:26] <bgamari> looks like it
[16:39:35] <bgamari> interesting
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[16:40:57] <bgamari> Recompiling with some debugging output
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[16:49:00] <bgamari> I seem to compute the correct offset
[16:49:36] <bgamari> the relocation was at P=0x41c61d50, the offset was 009809a0
[16:49:53] <bgamari> P+offset = 0x425E26F0, so I guess it must be the instruction encoding
[16:54:37] <bgamari> mru: my instruction encoding is quite simple
[16:54:47] <bgamari> if word points to the instruction
[16:55:18] <bgamari> *word = (*word & 0xff000000) | ((offset>>2) & 0xffffff)
[16:55:30] <bgamari> is there something wrong with this
[16:55:52] <bgamari> Considering the instruction is a BL, there should be no H bit to take care of
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[16:57:54] <mru> bgamari: x/xw 0x419c0e1c
[16:57:59] <mru> see if it looks like what you expect
[16:58:36] <mru> remember that the offset is relative the visible pc value
[16:58:44] <mru> which is 8 more than the address of the instruction
[16:58:52] * mru thinks you probably forgot that
[17:00:08] <bgamari> oh man
[17:00:20] <bgamari> Why is this the case?
[17:00:27] <mru> historical reasons
[17:00:42] <bgamari> blarg
[17:00:43] <mru> in thumb code the offset is 4 btw
[17:00:49] <mru> great fun
[17:01:19] <bgamari> oh yes
[17:01:21] <mru> the reason is that it simplified the design of some processor a very long time ago
[17:02:14] <bgamari> So P in the ELF for ARM spec refers to Address - 8 for ARM code, Address - 4 for Thumb code?
[17:03:20] <mru> "P is the address of the place being relocated"
[17:04:17] <bgamari> Alright, so I shouldn't need to account for this in the relocation code?
[17:04:18] <mru> read section 4.6.1.1
[17:04:27] <mru> "Addends and PC-bias compensation"
[17:04:36] <bgamari> Just where I need to jump to veneer?
[17:05:16] <bgamari> I have, just checking
[17:05:23] <mru> P is the address of the branch instruction
[17:06:15] <nikarul> Hey, does anyone here use a KVM with their Beagleboard? Just curious if I can safely switch ports without damaging my board.
[17:06:28] <bgamari> I'm just wondering if I need to account for this 8/4 byte offset anywhere but the veneer branches
[17:06:38] <mru> you need to account for it somewhere
[17:06:49] <mru> veneer branches are no different
[17:06:53] <mranostay> nikarul: how would that damage it?
[17:07:26] <nikarul> Well the manual says not to plug in the DVI port when the board is on. Not sure KVM switching would be the same as plugging it in.
[17:07:48] <bgamari> mru: The addend doesn't already account for the offset?
[17:07:49] <nikarul> probably not but expensive to test if I'm wrong.
[17:08:51] <mru> bgamari: read the spec
[17:09:24] <mru> it should already be compensated for in the relocation
[17:09:28] <mru> what produced it?
[17:11:10] <bgamari> The assembler?
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[17:18:20] <bgamari> mru: Thanks for your help
[17:19:02] <mru> you probably simply forgot to take the pc bias into account when computing the branch offset to the veneer
[17:21:30] <bgamari> yes, that appears to be the issue
[17:21:36] <bgamari> now I get GHC specific problems
[17:21:42] <bgamari> but the linker seems to be working
[17:21:47] <bgamari> as far as I can tell
[17:21:56] <bgamari> so thanks
[17:22:06] <bgamari> I really do appreciate your patience
[17:23:14] <bgamari> rereading section 4.7.1.1 I finally understand
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[17:24:37] <mru> you know, I'm just quoting spec at you
[17:24:54] <mru> I don't actually _know_ any of this
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[17:57:36] <mrd> hi
[17:58:15] <mrd> has anyone successfully used the qemu/meego emulator (supports beagleboard) with an SD card image?
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[18:18:11] <djlewis_> gm
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[19:06:57] <Tobba> I asked yesterday about this, but I dont think anyone actually had any clue
[19:07:32] <Tobba> Theres a pretty much 99% chance every boot that the BeagleBoard just throws back to the bootloader in its booting process
[19:07:38] <Tobba> On any linux distro ive tried
[19:07:41] <Tobba> Same place too
[19:07:52] <Tobba> But after about 100 reboots it decides to work
[19:08:38] <prpplague> Tobba: there could be a number of reasons for the failure
[19:09:18] <prpplague> Tobba: it would be hard to give you an exact reason without spending a large amount of time to help you debug it
[19:10:51] <Tobba> http://pastebin.com/ACycP9sb
[19:11:00] <Tobba> Any idea what it does right after those USB messages though?
[19:11:15] <Tobba> When it decides to boot it gets to the failure step 100 times slower
[19:11:56] <prpplague> Tobba: could be a dozen things
[19:12:33] <Tobba> Darn it
[19:12:41] <Tobba> Its probably physical damage though
[19:12:48] <Tobba> Since it refuses to boot ANY linux
[19:13:22] <Tobba> Guess i'll have to get a new from my local supplier
[19:13:28] <Tobba> But I was hoping to get some work done over the weekend
[19:14:19] <Tobba> On an unrelated note: when my USB to serial adapter decides to goof up it can get interesting: ading 1amdisk.gz
[19:17:33] <bgamari> Tobba: Bring it up on the list
[19:17:38] <bgamari> and ask for a RMA
[19:18:03] <Tobba> I guess
[19:18:16] <Tobba> Interesting that it randomly broke though
[19:18:29] <Tobba> But yeah, i'll get an RMA, but its weekend
[19:18:37] <Tobba> Time to spend an hour trying to fire it up
[19:18:59] <djlewis_> Tobba: you local supplier have them in stock?
[19:19:06] <djlewis_> get him to swap it out
[19:19:25] <Tobba> 401 of them
[19:19:27] <Tobba> I will
[19:19:28] <mru> Tobba: are you sure your power supply is good?
[19:19:37] <Tobba> 820mA over OTG USB
[19:19:39] <Tobba> It should do
[19:19:50] <Tobba> But it fails on something USB related
[19:19:53] <Tobba> so im actually curious
[19:19:56] <mru> how do you source 820mA over usb?
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[19:20:02] <bgamari> Tobba: I've had issues with the USB controller
[19:20:03] <Tobba> Phone charger
[19:20:15] <djlewis_> try a 2amp supply
[19:20:21] <bgamari> the controller on the board I'm currently using seems to be completely dead
[19:20:23] <mru> try a 5V supply through the barrel jack
[19:20:33] <djlewis_> ditto
[19:20:34] <Tobba> I'll do some soldering
[19:20:37] <bgamari> I suspect the problem may have been a bad USB hub
[19:20:50] <bgamari> But I have little evidence to back up that claim
[19:20:56] <Tobba> I'll harvest a 5V circuit from an old robot and run it on this 6V transformer
[19:21:06] <mru> and give it at least 2A to be on the safe side
[19:21:46] <mru> do you seriously not have a pile of 5V PSUs knocking about?
[19:22:01] <Tobba> Nope
[19:22:08] <Tobba> Its rediclous I know
[19:22:13] <Tobba> It might be the USB hub though
[19:22:20] <Tobba> Since this is one of the last messages: [ 43.381744] hub 2-2:1.0: USB hub found
[19:22:35] <Tobba> Or wait
[19:22:35] <Tobba> thinking a bit: [ 43.390075] regulator_init_complete: incomplete constraints, leaving VAUX3 on
[19:22:36] <bgamari> USB hubs generally all suck
[19:22:41] <Tobba> regulator, VAUX3
[19:22:47] <Tobba> I dont have any HUB connected
[19:22:49] <Tobba> its the internal one
[19:22:55] <Tobba> But I have a feeling theres some power issues here
[19:23:00] <Tobba> I'll hack something together
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[19:26:01] <bgamari> ahh
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[19:28:03] <Tobba> open locker of general computer wires searching for a laptop transformer, see something that might be 5V, try to pull it out
[19:28:08] <Tobba> Entire contants of locker falls out
[19:28:17] <Tobba> God dammit
[19:29:44] <Tobba> 1 amp is the best ive found yet on 5V
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[19:42:30] <djlewis_> Tobba often usb hub adapters are rated for it and have same plug
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[19:52:15] <Tobba> Got it, its perfectly fine now
[19:52:20] <Tobba> NAND flash also works accordingly
[19:52:26] <Tobba> I got errors about it before
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[19:52:47] <Tobba> Atleast USB works fine too
[19:52:50] <Tobba> My camera works fine
[19:54:51] <Tobba> Thanks for the tip guys
[19:54:54] <djlewis_> cool, now perhaps you can have a fun weekend with it.
[19:55:32] <Tobba> Yeah
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[20:13:11] <djlewis_> Tobba: one thing, measure whatever power you connected with a DVM to see that is within tolerance for the beagleboard.
[20:13:23] <djlewis_> Too much will overheat it and Poof the magic smoke
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