• [00:00:56] <vexorg> another beginner question: how do i change or update my kernel bootargs to change my screen resolution?
  • [00:01:25] <emeb> ds2: cool - I'd heard there were problems with that in the past.
  • [00:02:00] <vexorg> apparently the argument i have to change is omapfb.mode, but im not sure how to change it, when i try to do it from the u-boot prompt it seems to ignore it
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  • [00:30:03] <ds2> emeb: more due to incompetance, I suspect.
  • [00:31:22] <emeb> heh - no shortage of that.
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  • [00:46:35] <djlewis> vexorg: keep googling :)
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  • [02:04:20] <josef_> hi
  • [02:05:08] <josef_> what displays can i conect to the new beagleboard?
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  • [02:08:40] <josef_> Is there a project which uses the beagleboard for uhf/vhf 2m/70cm ham trancievers?
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  • [02:10:28] <josef_> Does someone tried to run gnuradio on the beagelboard?
  • [02:11:18] <josef_> what is the samplerate from the line in and is it stereo ?
  • [02:11:44] <josef_> what is the samplerate of the line-out?
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  • [02:13:55] <josef_> Hm, someone around with expireince with beagleboard, gnuradio and UHFSDR ?
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  • [02:20:45] <josef_> What is TPS65950 ?
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  • [03:19:40] <emeb> so full of questions you are!
  • [03:22:30] <djlewis> yes, young beagleboarder must learn the ways of the channel
  • [03:23:06] <emeb> eeeeh heee heee heeee. </yoda>
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  • [03:30:35] <ds2> What is the meaning of life?
  • [03:30:53] <ds2> Is the PCB half empty or half full?
  • [03:30:57] <emeb> don't get caught?
  • [03:31:11] <emeb> the PCB is 2x too large
  • [03:31:21] <djlewis> or perhaps, you got caught
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  • [06:10:08] <doublebeta> Hmm, thinking about trying to make my own ARM device, of course not using POP or BGA, but crappy Cortex-Mx parts, in LQFP or etc. But I've only soldered SSOP SMD parts, so it'll be taking a risk.
  • [06:10:24] <doublebeta> Totally worth it if I can pull off a completely DIY board.
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  • [07:01:56] <ds2> there has been plent of those
  • [07:02:10] <ds2> even a ARM9 based one that can run Linux
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  • [07:17:14] <Russ> pretty sure my laptop is dying :(
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  • [07:25:30] <Russ> yup, seems to be the case
  • [07:25:33] <Russ> any suggestions?
  • [07:28:41] <doublebeta> er, 'dying'?
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  • [07:50:26] <hitlin37> remove the motherboard and put any arm board in it
  • [07:50:45] <doublebeta> ^
  • [07:51:05] <doublebeta> read: spend your life writing Linux drivers
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  • [07:55:55] <hitlin37> most of the drivers are available.
  • [08:07:16] <doublebeta> VESA takes care of giving you a framebuffer. Suddenly you don't have your x86 framebuffer.
  • [08:07:31] <doublebeta> Unless you instead used ARM video hardware.
  • [08:07:38] <doublebeta> *x86 BIOS
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  • [08:53:17] <perter-jim> hi omap3 uart3 support irda receive?
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  • [08:53:30] <_av500_> perter-jim: doubt it
  • [08:53:37] <_av500_> trm will tell you exactly
  • [08:53:48] <_av500_> and irda is so 90's
  • [08:55:32] <perter-jim> but CIR ->Transmit mode only (receive mode is not supported)
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  • [08:58:08] <mru> I've only owned two devices with irda and not at the same time
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  • [10:34:37] <hitlin37> source code released or not... Chinese tablet makers can't wait
  • [10:34:38] <hitlin37> http://liliputing.com/2011/09/fake-honeycomb-tablet-runs-android-2-3-gingerbread.html
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  • [13:03:04] <dm8tbr> joel-afk: you might want to poke e.g. djlewis
  • [13:03:11] <dm8tbr> sorry
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  • [13:25:08] <Guest79933> for tv, other than iclk, fclk, is there any other clock that need to be enabled?
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  • [15:33:32] <mru> 2h is nothing
  • [15:33:47] <mru> 24h on a 90min flight is what I call a delay
  • [15:35:38] <ogra_> 24h on a 90min flight is what i call life risking for travel agents
  • [15:41:15] <_av500_> mru: you need to factor in 3 kids
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  • [15:51:21] <mru> ogra_: it was on flybe
  • [15:51:48] <mru> in fairness, they did feed us and provide hotel for the night
  • [15:52:04] <ogra_> ah, so its wasnt a planned layover then
  • [15:53:33] <mru> I don't call those "delay"
  • [15:53:40] <mru> and I wouldn't plan a layover of less than 2h
  • [15:53:47] <ogra_> yeah, i misread above
  • [15:54:18] <ogra_> depends ... flying through washington into the US planning for 3h is better for example :)
  • [15:54:56] * ogra_ has always to wait ages at immigration there, they have the longest queues i know
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  • [16:19:40] <mru> never been to that airport
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  • [16:23:17] <koen> I had 2.5 hours in chicago last time
  • [16:23:21] <koen> had to run to make it
  • [16:23:37] * koen hugs direct flights
  • [16:24:16] <ogra_> ++
  • [16:24:57] <koen> "this is ???100 more, but saves me 8 hours"
  • [16:26:10] <koen> I need to work out how many trips I need this year to get an upgraded frequent flyer status
  • [16:27:06] <koen> ok
  • [16:27:11] <koen> time for a poll:
  • [16:27:14] <koen> pizza
  • [16:27:16] <koen> ribs
  • [16:27:21] <koen> gyros
  • [16:29:12] <ogra_> gyros ++
  • [16:29:43] <woglinde> ribs
  • [16:32:08] <mru> gyros is very stable food?
  • [16:32:39] <koen> if it's turned on, yes
  • [16:33:02] <koen> but it was shorthand for "shoarma/d??ner/k??fte"
  • [16:35:15] <woglinde> ?
  • [16:35:20] <woglinde> k??fte is not d??ner
  • [16:35:43] <woglinde> gyros is greek
  • [16:35:50] <woglinde> d??ner turkish
  • [16:36:02] <koen> gyros and shoarma are nearly interchangable in .nl
  • [16:36:06] <koen> the other 2 are different
  • [16:36:20] * koen went for k??fte
  • [16:36:28] <mru> "immigrant fast food"
  • [16:40:07] <koen> one of the reasons why I don't get the right wing dislike of immigrants
  • [16:40:30] <koen> joel-afk: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/66854f8d06f4d9bf56f94be4d4ef62d3.png
  • [16:41:48] <mru> immigrants vs natives is a bad split to base dislike on
  • [16:41:58] <mru> there are good and bad people of both kinds
  • [16:42:00] <mru> in any country
  • [16:44:44] * Crofton|work wonders if someone is impersonating mru
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  • [16:48:46] <mru> Crofton|work: uh?
  • [16:48:58] <mru> did I say something out of character?
  • [16:49:12] <koen> you had a very balanced point of view
  • [16:50:15] <koen> but you are of course biased :)
  • [16:50:56] <mru> by being an immigrant?
  • [16:51:30] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [16:51:50] <mru> well, as immigrants go, I'm not a very good one
  • [16:52:00] <mru> people usually take me for a native
  • [16:52:07] <Crofton|work> yeah, you don't sell native fast food
  • [16:52:56] <mru> maybe I should open a shop selling meatballs and surstr??mming
  • [16:53:29] <koen> that's the exploding rotten fish thing?
  • [16:53:33] <mru> yes
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  • [16:58:51] <_av500_> 'i haz a tablet'
  • [16:59:01] <_av500_> 'never heard of'...
  • [16:59:17] <koen> tabletop!
  • [16:59:51] <mru> tablet-op?
  • [17:09:02] <dm8tbr> av500: you have an internet table!
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  • [17:57:10] <giri> hi
  • [17:57:50] <giri> i bought the new beagle board xm
  • [18:00:10] <mranostay> and? :)
  • [18:00:20] <djlewis> did you cook it?
  • [18:00:57] <djlewis> its lunch time for me :)
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  • [18:02:52] <mdp> the newer ones are spicier
  • [18:03:37] <mranostay> doesn't that cut up your mouth something bad?
  • [18:03:47] <mru> cook until soft
  • [18:03:53] <giri> i bought the new beagle board xm
  • [18:04:11] <mru> I hear koen likes to bake his bits
  • [18:04:16] <giri> i am unable to find the correct guide for porting angstrom
  • [18:04:32] <thurbad> how far have you gotten in getting getting it running
  • [18:04:38] <R_Nev> the chips are rather crunchy
  • [18:04:47] <mru> here's the guide: end of guide
  • [18:04:58] <mranostay> giri: why port it? it has already been done :)
  • [18:05:22] <mru> mranostay: maybe it got deported
  • [18:05:33] <mranostay> visa run out?
  • [18:05:50] <giri> i mean i want to build the MLO,rfs by my own to learn embedded linux
  • [18:06:18] <mranostay> *ahem* google
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  • [18:07:14] <giri> i mean i want to build the MLO,rfs by my own to learn embedded linux
  • [18:08:16] <mranostay> er i saw it the first time
  • [18:08:26] <mranostay> google it for a step by step :)
  • [18:09:47] <giri> ok thank you
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  • [18:10:22] <mranostay> so easy to please it seems :)
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  • [18:11:17] <djlewis> frustrated most likely
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  • [18:13:39] <unsolo> hint never short 1v8_io to warmreset..
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  • [18:15:49] <asdfzxcv> hey
  • [18:15:58] <asdfzxcv> i'm sure this question has been asked a million times
  • [18:16:11] <asdfzxcv> but does anyone have any information regarding utilizing the GPIO / SPI on android on the beagleboard
  • [18:17:02] <prpplague> asdfzxcv: kernel wise, it is the same as anything else
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  • [18:17:34] <prpplague> asdfzxcv: if there is something you want to do from the android UI, you'll probably need to write your own code
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  • [18:21:53] <unsolo> thought android had a nice gpio plugin in their code
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  • [18:25:15] <panto> hi mranostay
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  • [18:55:46] <atmosx> hello
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  • [18:56:05] <nonickname> hi
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  • [18:56:38] <atmosx> I would like to buy a bifferboard + case + simple screen in order to make a NAS/filesharing/httpserver/etc device for home lan usage.
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  • [18:57:04] <atmosx> however, where I am, I only have a macbook air (new model) which has only USB ports, no RS232 etc. How can I access the beagleboard?
  • [18:57:14] <atmosx> is there any way using a mac and usb ports?/
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  • [19:01:31] <R_Nev> https://github.com/failberg/osx-pl2303
  • [19:02:22] * koen uses a keyspan adapter for the beagle and ftdi for others
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  • [19:07:08] <ds2> koen: you don't use the TUSB dev boards? ;)
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  • [19:08:06] <koen> nope
  • [19:08:45] <atmosx> R_Nev: thanks, a list of supported adapters would be very welcomed
  • [19:09:48] <mru> whatever your OS supports
  • [19:12:34] <ds2> someone should do a pack to use the ez430 sticks as the console adapter
  • [19:12:47] <ds2> they are 3.3V and there is a 3.3V console signal on the Beagle
  • [19:23:33] <unsolo> flyswatter works nicely on the beagle
  • [19:23:58] <unsolo> but you dont really need a jtag on the beagle..
  • [19:25:08] <mru> simple jtags are really only useful for loading code
  • [19:25:16] <mru> and you don't need jtag for that on the beagle, as you say
  • [19:25:27] <atmosx> loading code for what?
  • [19:25:37] <mru> for doing actual debugging over jtag you want something more advanced
  • [19:25:48] <mru> atmosx: the beagle can boot from an sd card
  • [19:25:49] <atmosx> sorry I'm not into embedded devices and have no idea what a jtag cable looks like..
  • [19:26:02] <atmosx> okay, got it, it's for the boot process
  • [19:26:10] <mru> it's for all sorts of things
  • [19:26:13] <atmosx> an SD card with a modified linux on it?
  • [19:26:23] <mru> jtag is a low-level interface directly to the cpu (more or less)
  • [19:26:49] <mru> so you can kickstart a board with no bootloader, or stop a system and look around in the memory
  • [19:26:53] <mru> or single-step execution
  • [19:26:55] <mru> etc
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  • [19:27:10] <mru> but you don't need any of that to boot linux
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  • [19:27:18] <mru> and once running linux you don't need it for debugging either
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  • [20:11:42] <koen> mru: we are triple checking, but l2 seems to be enabled on the new board
  • [20:12:19] <koen> and since yesterday ddr is at the proper 266MHz
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  • [20:12:40] <mingwandroid> hi.
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  • [20:33:27] <bgn> hello
  • [20:33:58] <bgn> I am trying to use the picoprojector as the monitor for the beagleboard xm rev B
  • [20:34:29] <bgn> when I boot angstrom on it, only a small upper part of the screen is visible
  • [20:34:44] <bgn> 3/4 lower half of the screen is distorted
  • [20:35:00] <bgn> could someone help me with this problem?
  • [20:35:11] <bgn> I have googled some solution
  • [20:35:34] <bgn> I have tried the boot.scr file given on http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/8b5df4087d2923fb/b0d551ad3d56bd8c?lnk=gst&q=boot.scr
  • [20:35:51] <bgn> but it doesn't work
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  • [20:39:15] <mru> koen: so what's wrong then?
  • [20:39:45] <koen> mru: that we will launch a board with all that working properly
  • [20:40:01] <mru> there's *always* something wrong
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  • [20:40:41] <mru> maybe if you send one my way I'll find out what :)
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  • [20:41:20] <koen> you're on the list
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  • [20:50:26] * djlewis is still drooling over different ham rigs
  • [20:53:13] <mru> a ham rig to go with the bacon board?
  • [20:53:50] <woglinde> new board?
  • [20:54:10] <djlewis> ooh, a beaglebacon board
  • [20:54:15] <jkridner1> mmmmm..... bacon.
  • [20:54:24] <jkridner1> i want one!
  • [20:55:12] <bgn> does anyone know how to solve the distorted screen problem with picoprojector?
  • [20:55:41] <mru> project onto an inversly curved surface
  • [20:55:42] <jkridner1> distorted screen?
  • [20:56:22] <mru> two people suggest the same solution, got to be right
  • [20:57:29] <jkridner1> bgn: do you know what resolution you are outputing from the beagleboard?
  • [20:57:43] <jkridner1> 640x480 is what the pico likes.
  • [20:57:52] <mru> remember the picoprojector only likes pico resolutions
  • [20:58:00] <djlewis> well said
  • [20:59:51] <bgn> that's the resolution I specified in the boot.scr file
  • [21:00:39] <bgn> this is the content of the script:
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  • [21:02:02] <bgn> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2, 115200n8 omapfb.mode=dvi:640x480MR-16@60 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 rootwait'
  • [21:02:30] <bgn> mmc init
  • [21:02:48] <bgn> fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage
  • [21:02:56] <bgn> bootm 0x80300000
  • [21:03:19] <bgn> end of script
  • [21:04:19] <bgn> btw I have connected the board to a monitor via DVI and the screen works just fine
  • [21:04:52] <bgn> so what is wrong?
  • [21:05:11] <mru> maybe pico refers to more than the size...
  • [21:05:58] <mru> the only things I want pico are my farads
  • [21:06:23] <djlewis> hey! dont be discussing your farads in public :(
  • [21:07:34] <koen> don't like bicycles?
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  • [21:39:04] <bgamari> Anyone know where I could find someone familiar with the ARM ABI?
  • [21:39:49] <mru> why don't you read the doc and become familiar yourself?
  • [21:40:26] <bgamari> mru: That's what I've been doing for the last three days you insensitive clod ;)
  • [21:40:39] <bgamari> unfortunately the ELF for ARM spec leaves much to be desired
  • [21:40:50] <mru> it's perfectly clear
  • [21:40:55] <mru> what do you want to know?
  • [21:41:26] <bgamari> In the case of an R_ARM_CALL relocation, when should I change a BL instruction to a BLX
  • [21:42:13] <mru> if the target state is different from the caller state
  • [21:42:15] <bgamari> mru: As a linker, it seems I would need to know what state the CPU is currently in in order to figure out whether an ARM to thumb transition is necesary
  • [21:43:05] <bgamari> mru: Right, fair enough, but do I necessarily know what symbol a given relocation falls within?
  • [21:43:55] <bgamari> Do I need to search the symbol table for the symbol containing the relocated address, do the bit 0 test, then do the same thing for the target address?
  • [21:43:55] <mru> R_ARM_CALL is only used in ARM code
  • [21:44:08] <bgamari> Alright
  • [21:44:15] <bgamari> I guess that explains it
  • [21:44:45] <mru> the table in the manual tells where each relocation type is allowed
  • [21:45:13] <bgamari> alright, fair enough
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  • [21:45:18] <bgamari> I guess that's not so bad
  • [21:45:46] <mru> and you should know the target state
  • [21:47:01] <bgamari> mru: Certainly, the 0 bit of the target symbol's address
  • [21:48:14] <bgamari> Alright, so to change BL to BLX I guess I just need to clear bit 12 of the second byte?
  • [21:50:42] <mru> that's for a thumb-mode bl(x)
  • [21:50:51] <mru> the ARM encoding is different
  • [21:51:31] <bgamari> ahh, yes
  • [21:51:55] <bgamari> In fact, there's another question
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  • [21:52:13] <bgamari> What is bit 24 (H) of the BLX's ARM encoding
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  • [21:52:28] <bgamari> it's just the second bit of the immediate I suppose
  • [21:52:31] <mru> bit 1 of the target address
  • [21:52:55] <mru> well, offset
  • [21:53:24] <bgamari> Ahh, I see, BLX and BL are differentiated by the low bit of the condition
  • [21:53:34] <bgamari> since there are no conditions 0xf
  • [21:53:55] <mru> blx is unconditional
  • [21:54:07] <mru> condition 15 is the old 'never' condition
  • [21:54:19] <mru> which was kind of useless so they reappropriated that code
  • [21:55:18] <bgamari> So I guess in changing BL to BLX I should set H=0
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  • [21:59:06] <bgn> I followed the instructions on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners but minicom stops at "Press CTRL-A Z ..."
  • [21:59:22] <mru> bgamari: you should set it whatever is right for the target address
  • [21:59:43] <bgamari> mru: In BL is must have been 0, no?
  • [22:00:02] <mru> arm instructions are 4-byte aligned
  • [22:00:04] <bgamari> for BL: imm32 = imm24:00
  • [22:00:10] <mru> thumb instructions only 2-byte
  • [22:00:21] <mru> hence the need for another bit in the encoding
  • [22:00:23] <bgamari> for BLX: imm32 = imm24:H:0
  • [22:00:26] <bgamari> ahh
  • [22:01:07] <bgn> I am using an xm board rev B and PL 2303 USB-Serial Adapter
  • [22:02:33] <rcn-ee_at_work> bgn, sometimes minicom can do too much, do you have gtkterm installed?
  • [22:03:59] <ds2> STOP USING THAT PoS MINICOM
  • [22:04:09] <ds2> use something sane like ckermit
  • [22:04:32] <bgn> so gtkterm or ckermit?
  • [22:04:37] <emeb> any compiler geniuses here know if the latest arm-gcc supports the Cortex M4 DSP & FPU instructions?
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  • [22:04:59] <ds2> or for that matter, get a real vt100
  • [22:05:25] <mru> emeb: the dsp insns are a subset of the armv6 ones
  • [22:05:32] <djlewis> gtkterm is more newbie friendly
  • [22:05:48] <mru> emeb: if gcc knows that m4 supports them is another matter
  • [22:06:09] <emeb> mru: thanks - will have to check & see.
  • [22:10:41] <bgn> just installed and tried gtkterm
  • [22:11:17] <bgn> I run "$ gtkterm -p /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 115200"
  • [22:11:51] <mru> emeb: to do anything clever with those instructions you'll have to write asm yourself anyway
  • [22:11:56] <mru> so gcc support doesn't really matter
  • [22:11:57] <bgn> an error message appeared: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0 : Device or resource busy
  • [22:12:02] <mru> the dsp ones at least
  • [22:12:14] <mru> I guess gcc could do something half-decent with float
  • [22:12:25] <djlewis> bgn: an app left it open?
  • [22:12:27] <emeb> mru: understood re dsp instr. Was hoping float would be transparent
  • [22:12:47] <emeb> fwiw there is a -mcpu=cortex-m4 option...
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  • [22:13:02] <mru> those options usually show up before they actually do anything
  • [22:13:11] <bgn> djlewis, could you explain your question?
  • [22:13:38] <djlewis> bgn: if the device is open then you need to release it. Did you open the port before?
  • [22:13:40] <emeb> s'pose I could compile a simple test stub with some floats & see what it does...
  • [22:13:53] <woglinde> emeb why you didnt do this first?
  • [22:14:07] <bgn> not that I know of, but how to I release it?
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  • [22:15:08] <woglinde> bgn try lsof | grep ttyUSB0
  • [22:15:11] <mru> emeb: the fpu instructions are the single-precision vfp instructions
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  • [22:15:40] <emeb> mru: cool - that should work
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  • [22:16:12] <bgn> woglinde: I've just tried that and gtkterm again
  • [22:16:30] <bgn> woglinde: the same error message appears
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  • [22:17:50] <bgamari> mru: Thanks for your help
  • [22:18:20] * bgamari likes Picocom
  • [22:19:51] <bgamari> mru: How likely is it that I'll run into a JUMP24 which needs veneer?
  • [22:20:10] <bgamari> Is this something that occurs often in the wild with a well-behaved toolchain?
  • [22:20:52] <mru> I really don't know
  • [22:21:50] <mru> but why should it not?
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  • [22:22:06] <mru> isn't that what you'd get from a normal branch instruction
  • [22:22:17] <bgamari> mru: Because I'm hoping it doesn't ;)
  • [22:22:17] <mru> think tail call optimisation
  • [22:22:23] <bgamari> Uh oh
  • [22:22:43] <bgamari> I'm trying to port the Glasgow Haskell Compiler's internal linker to ARM
  • [22:23:04] <bgamari> TCO is definitely common in Haskell
  • [22:23:12] <mru> yeah, it would be
  • [22:23:20] <mru> isn't that kind of the point?
  • [22:23:39] <bgamari> I guess the question is how often you need to do a tail call to code in a different instruction set
  • [22:24:03] <mru> most tail calls are probably to a target in the same compilation unit
  • [22:24:06] <bgamari> Well, I guess we'll see if it fails
  • [22:24:08] <bgamari> yep
  • [22:24:12] <woglinde> bgn try man lsof first
  • [22:24:18] <woglinde> and than man grep
  • [22:24:21] <bgamari> That's what I would guess as well
  • [22:24:37] <mru> bgamari: you could always simply declare that you only support arm mode
  • [22:24:50] <woglinde> good nite
  • [22:24:51] <mru> to begin with at least
  • [22:25:13] <Crofton|work> gn
  • [22:25:30] <woglinde> Crofton do you bring eh e100 to elce?
  • [22:25:38] <Crofton> yes
  • [22:25:42] <woglinde> cool
  • [22:25:52] * woglinde would like to see gsm on it
  • [22:25:54] <Crofton> hopefully running Angstrom based on oe-core now
  • [22:26:01] <Crofton> I'll bring that card also :)
  • [22:26:12] <woglinde> cool
  • [22:26:16] <Crofton> I need to propose that for the technical showcase I think
  • [22:26:30] <woglinde> now off
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  • [22:26:50] <bgamari> mru: Unfortunately a good number of distributions ship thumb binaries
  • [22:27:02] <bgamari> such as Linaro Ubuntu, which is what I'm running
  • [22:27:11] <mru> build a saner system then
  • [22:28:03] <bgamari> mru: If only it were that easy
  • [22:28:23] <bgamari> It's alright, I can try working with what I have
  • [22:28:34] <bgamari> definitely not implementing the veneer though
  • [22:29:19] <mru> why do you have your own linker anyway?
  • [22:29:38] <bgamari> The veneer would just be a BLX to the relocated address I guess?
  • [22:29:43] <bgamari> mru: I wish I knew
  • [22:30:07] <bgamari> It's required to run GHCi, the interactive interpretter
  • [22:31:02] <mru> the veneer should probably load the address to r12 and and bx r12
  • [22:31:24] <emeb> mru: looks like these options will do it: -mcpu=cortex-m4 -mthumb -mfloat-abi=hard
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  • [22:42:39] <djlewis> emeb: is that the board you showed me yesterday?
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  • [22:45:29] <emeb> djlewis: yep
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  • [22:45:53] <emeb> hasn't arrived yet - maybe Sat. Trying to get the infrastructure in place to mess w/ it.
  • [22:46:22] <emeb> Gotta get stlink-download figured out first. Trying on the M3 discovery board.
  • [22:48:13] <djlewis> i was thinking "I hope they havent made it even more prioritary"
  • [22:48:30] <djlewis> what a mispell!
  • [22:48:47] <djlewis> proprietary ?
  • [22:48:48] <mru> but it sounds like a word
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  • [22:48:55] <emeb> hadn't thought of that - hoping it's the same as the older one.
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  • [22:54:43] <djlewis> emeb: the add just read wierd like it was different somehow
  • [22:54:53] <djlewis> the stlink part
  • [22:58:24] <emeb> djlewis: finding that I can flash to the Discovery board & it verifies OK, but the demo program shipped with it still runs.
  • [22:58:38] <emeb> Must have the wrong starting add for flash...
  • [22:58:40] <djlewis> oops.
  • [22:59:06] <mIKEjONES> Dennis Ritchie, Father of C and Co-Developer of Unix, Dies
  • [22:59:22] <emeb> djlewis: did you ever get stlink-download working with Discovery board?
  • [22:59:27] <djlewis> yes
  • [22:59:40] <emeb> any words of wisdom?
  • [22:59:56] <djlewis> not till I get home and then I have to think about it as it has been so long..
  • [23:00:09] <emeb> heh - understood.
  • [23:00:15] <djlewis> but I will gladly look at it in an hour or so
  • [23:00:34] * djlewis is heading to the mountain... later :)
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  • [23:46:39] <djlewis> emeb: did you press reset on the stm bd?
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  • [23:50:04] <emeb> djlewis: yeah
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  • [23:53:11] <djlewis> iirc the stm32 verify is crap
  • [23:53:23] <djlewis> as in didnt really work.
  • [23:53:30] <djlewis> just pretends to
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  • [23:54:22] <ds2> are there Linux tools for the STM32 programming yet?
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  • [23:54:39] <djlewis> yes, iuse them
  • [23:56:38] <djlewis> iirc, i tested the verify by verifying different flash with source and it verified.
  • [23:57:01] <djlewis> thus, not functioning properly
  • [23:57:06] <ds2> I see. maybe it is time to blow the dust off the stm32 board I have
  • [23:57:32] <djlewis> yeah, I just got home, fed pups, its been months since i used mine
  • [23:57:45] <ds2> is verify really implemented? last year, there wasn't much in the way of linux tools