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  • [01:35:11] <ds2> yes.
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  • [01:38:22] <worker> ds2: so what is the other way i can use?
  • [01:38:41] <ds2> install the indivual real packages.
  • [01:38:55] <ds2> unpack the ar files and manually shove them into place
  • [01:39:06] <ds2> make tarballs on the host when you build them
  • [01:40:17] <worker> u mind show me the preocedure? coz this is my 1st time using linux and beagleboard to do programming.
  • [01:47:00] <ds2> yes.
  • [01:47:09] <pugVader_> via vnc, sure :P
  • [01:47:29] <pugVader_> actually i couldn't
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  • [01:51:16] <ds2> information is free. hand holding costs money.
  • [01:55:50] <emeb_mac> sounds so... tawdry when you put it that way
  • [01:57:05] <ds2> don't you have to be in NV or .nl for that?
  • [01:59:21] <emeb_mac> exactly
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  • [02:43:09] <worker> nvmi found the solution!!!
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  • [05:35:14] <NotTooDumb3> Hi all, if i disable GFX through sysfs and enable Vid1, then i am seeing the previous image data of GFX on vid1 also, but video file is not running still on Vid1, can this be any memory related problem? i gave in bootargs 4M for GFX, Vid1, omapfb.vram=0:4M,1:4M, is it possible to reduce bpp for vid1 in kernel i mean not through application, but in fb driver itself?
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  • [08:53:38] <av500> koen: http://www.landley.net/notes.html#04-10-2011
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  • [09:02:22] <juhsis> _av500_ : do you know why i get this errors while cross-compiling my project that i can compile succesfully at my host computer? : http://pastebin.com/7k8rSaac
  • [09:03:25] <doublebeta> haven't finished reading, but forgot to clean?
  • [09:03:33] <doublebeta> oh nvm, errors now.
  • [09:04:25] <doublebeta> actually that's weird. 'make clean' and try again...
  • [09:04:51] <av500> juhsis: sorry, no idea, that's OE and not my expertise
  • [09:05:01] <av500> but I shudder when I read xdc....
  • [09:07:08] <av500> koen: go buy: http://producten.hema.nl/
  • [09:07:29] <juhsis> doublebeta : i'm trying your suggestion..
  • [09:09:03] <doublebeta> you might need to re-set the crosscompilation stuff after doing make clean. Depends on the program... like nginx nukes one of its makefiles when you make clean, iirc.
  • [09:16:52] <juhsis> how to do it?
  • [09:17:08] <juhsis> changing makefile?
  • [09:17:29] <juhsis> because it didnt changed..
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  • [09:41:43] <koen> good morning all
  • [09:43:56] <av500> gm
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  • [10:34:21] <doublebeta> morning k_en (nohilight)
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  • [11:02:52] <koen> "I could not find open-ssl source in kernel. "
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  • [11:05:34] <mru> koen: I guess that's good
  • [11:08:01] <doublebeta> .........
  • [11:08:08] <doublebeta> Someone actually said that?
  • [11:08:37] * mru is not surprised
  • [11:08:55] <doublebeta> after some thinking about it...I'm not that surprised anymore.
  • [11:21:04] <Crofton|work> gm
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  • [11:26:49] <NotTooDumb3> when does decreasing the resolution of video, does not actually decrease the size of video, but give flickering? when does this happen? any idea??
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  • [11:41:32] <doublebeta> NotTooDumb3: when you use a bad codec or encoder?
  • [11:42:57] <NotTooDumb3> that may not be the only reason i think, because i am not changing codecs now,
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  • [12:43:39] <NotTooDumb3> bye all
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  • [13:39:11] <rOxx> Hello, i??m using socketcan on my beagleboard xm and i have problems with flooding logfiles. the time stamp of the entries are <1ms and the logfiles are fast bigger than 1gb and the disk going full. i^m using mcp2515 can controller and kernel 3.0.0-x of robertcnelson repository. can someone help me or have an idear what i can do ?
  • [13:39:40] <rOxx> an entry example of the kern.log or syslog
  • [13:39:41] <rOxx> Oct 7 15:23:37 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5813.138458] omap2_mcspi omap2_mcspi.4: rpm_suspend flags 0x0
  • [13:39:51] <rOxx> Oct 7 15:23:37 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5813.138580] omap2_mcspi omap2_mcspi.4: rpm_resume returns 0
  • [13:39:55] <rOxx> or
  • [13:40:02] <rOxx> Oct 7 15:24:00 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5836.783325] smsc95xx 1-2.1:1.0: rpm_resume returns 1
  • [13:40:09] <rOxx> Oct 7 15:24:00 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5836.953948] smsc95xx 1-2.1:1.0: rpm_resume flags 0x5
  • [13:41:07] <rOxx> are this debug code or generated from the IRQ ?
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  • [13:52:33] <Crofton|work> koen, will you demonstrate a system booting fast?
  • [13:53:14] <koen> Crofton|work: yes, but it might not be the panda
  • [13:53:35] <koen> Crofton|work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/6216758821/in/photostream
  • [13:53:47] <Crofton|work> . In addition, the Angstrom project's Koen Kooi will discuss -- and perhaps demonstrate? -- using SystemD to boot userspace in less than one second.
  • [13:54:20] <Crofton|work> btw, Ettus has an application engineer now
  • [13:54:42] <Crofton|work> how easy is it to get gstreamer going on the e100, with codec stuff in the dsp?
  • [13:54:56] <koen> 'bitbake gstreamer-ti'
  • [13:55:06] <Crofton|work> are there packages in the feeds?
  • [13:55:29] <koen> no, since you keep confusing me about e100 kernels :)
  • [13:55:32] <Crofton|work> or are they machine specific?
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  • [13:55:35] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [13:55:52] <koen> you want the meta-ti gst-ti, not the oe classic one
  • [13:56:04] <Crofton|work> urg
  • [13:56:18] <Crofton|work> will it show any signs of working in classic
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  • [13:56:30] <Crofton|work> oe-core won't make binutils for me atm
  • [13:56:42] <av500> binutils....
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  • [14:00:14] <koen> Crofton|work: it will work if you use a .32 kernel, otherwise you need the meta-ti stuff
  • [14:00:25] <koen> Crofton|work: what's not working with binutils?
  • [14:00:43] <Crofton|work> no .32 kernel for us
  • [14:00:48] <Crofton|work> we are semi modern
  • [14:01:15] <koen> Crofton|work: btw, I'm creating a new task-base in meta-angstrom
  • [14:01:19] <Crofton|work> once I get something built, I want to switch meta-ettus to githuib
  • [14:01:23] <koen> Crofton|work: do you want a openssh option in there?
  • [14:01:27] <Crofton|work> yes
  • [14:01:30] <jkridner> koen: can you join this call?
  • [14:01:56] <jkridner> if not, might be fine.
  • [14:02:09] <Crofton|work> I'm not sure we have any reall dropbear issues atm, but people ask and it is an easy thing to say yes to :)
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  • [14:06:22] <av500> it's 2011, the *hard* things are binutils and ssh ....
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  • [14:12:31] <mranostay> mru: i hope you meant beer or bier
  • [14:12:50] <mru> I did not
  • [14:13:06] * mru drops bricks on av500
  • [14:13:12] <mru> av500: try that for hard
  • [14:13:45] <dm8tbr> http://fun.sdinet.de/pics/english/0603_7705.gif try that for bricks
  • [14:16:38] * mranostay runs away from mru
  • [14:23:45] <Crofton|work> koen, binutils - http://pastebin.com/iuCEPnbw
  • [14:25:57] <koen> ah, that one
  • [14:30:09] <av500> s/-WError//
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  • [14:36:49] <mru> maybe you should use a non-rpm based distro :)
  • [14:38:07] <rOxx> i??m using ubuntu natty 11.04 with kernel 3.0.0. but what is a non-rpm distro ?
  • [14:38:40] <mru> oh, you wanted a serious answer...
  • [14:40:10] <rOxx> yes :-) i have big problems with this kernlog and syslog messages, because my sd card was full with logfiles after 30 min
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  • [16:47:50] <tasslehoff> bah, that happens a lot lately...
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  • [17:01:21] <_av500_> dont tell the html5 posse
  • [17:01:31] <tasslehoff> _av500_: that too :)
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  • [17:32:41] <djlewis> what is that? blackened flounder on rice? whole plate looks delicious
  • [17:33:47] <doublebeta> erm.
  • [17:33:54] <doublebeta> I LOL'D
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  • [17:34:38] <doublebeta> not sure if wrong channel, or provoking thoughts on the channel's opinions on narwhal fishing.
  • [17:34:53] <doublebeta> Gonna go with option A.
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  • [17:37:28] <djlewis> doublebeta: have trouble with out of the blue comments ;)
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  • [17:38:10] <djlewis> related to the second picture in koen's link above.
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  • [17:39:24] <doublebeta> Ahh ;)
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  • [17:41:00] <doublebeta> I'll pretend it's chicken and respond with 'mmm'.
  • [17:44:50] * djlewis readies to chow down on his ham sandwich and peanut butter and honey sandwiches :)
  • [17:45:05] <koen> djlewis: shrimp on rice + catfish on dirty rice
  • [17:45:14] <koen> djlewis: if you're talking about the cajun combo
  • [17:45:18] * djlewis salivitates
  • [17:45:24] <djlewis> yep :)
  • [17:45:37] * djlewis needs a bigger napkin..
  • [17:45:59] <djlewis> koen: perhaps that is what supercharged you ;)
  • [17:46:06] <koen> I guess so
  • [17:46:13] * doublebeta wishes he could eat sandwiches.
  • [17:46:21] <djlewis> no teeth?
  • [17:46:21] <koen> I also learned that 10 oz steak leaves no room for dessert
  • [17:46:36] <koen> next time I'll go for the 8 oz one
  • [17:46:38] <dm8tbr> sounds like someone visited texas
  • [17:46:40] <djlewis> yep, texas steaks is usually as advertiesed
  • [17:46:45] <doublebeta> Coeliac disease. Can't eat gluten. And GF bread isn't worth it.
  • [17:47:05] <djlewis> doublebeta: i have a friend with that and she bakes delicious breads
  • [17:47:34] <djlewis> a 10oz arkansas steak is 9 ounces of bone and fat
  • [17:47:40] <doublebeta> Interesting
  • [17:47:40] <mranostay> heh
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  • [17:48:39] <doublebeta> I've tried heaps of recipies, but never found one which tasted any good. before I was diagnosed I made wheat breads that were quite nice tho. That said, others in my family who do not have the disease say they like the bread too.
  • [17:49:20] <djlewis> doublebeta: i might get you with my friend to exchange recipies then
  • [17:50:01] <doublebeta> that'd be very nice, but don't worry too much ;)
  • [17:50:03] * mranostay couldn't picture life without gluten based beverages :)
  • [17:50:17] <djlewis> right on dude :)
  • [17:50:23] <doublebeta> beverages? hmm... OH. Beer, right
  • [17:50:25] <djlewis> doublebeta: ok
  • [17:50:26] <doublebeta> indeed.
  • [17:50:27] <mranostay> how is gluten-free beer exactly?
  • [17:50:54] <doublebeta> I think they filter it, or it's coompletely artificial
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  • [17:51:20] <doublebeta> can't drink beer? go for harder booze. All works out.
  • [17:52:37] <mranostay> not for me it doesn't :)
  • [17:52:38] <djlewis> yeah, potatoes are gluten free i suppose
  • [17:52:46] <doublebeta> :D
  • [17:53:10] <doublebeta> so is rice but you gotta be careful it isn't kickstarted with wheat or etc
  • [17:53:13] * mranostay curses Jagermeister
  • [17:53:40] * doublebeta is lucky he never really drank much
  • [17:54:41] <mranostay> and tequila is just a terrible idea
  • [17:56:04] <doublebeta> ohh man, Jagermeister used to rule. Haven't had any since. according to WIKIPEDIA, there's no direct need for a gluten-containing ingredient. If the alcohol is produced from another fermented material it's good t go.
  • [17:56:53] <doublebeta> 'jaegnog' - Lol.
  • [17:57:09] <doublebeta> If I can get GF Jaegermeister, I'm gonna try that.
  • [17:59:48] <doublebeta> http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic/20397-jagermeister/ well WOOT
  • [18:01:10] <mranostay> oh god eggnog and jager. ew
  • [18:01:45] <doublebeta> My idea of AWESOME
  • [18:04:27] <mranostay> my liver and head hurts thinking of that combo
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  • [18:07:10] <doublebeta> heh, that's the upside to never having binged on booze. Your liver and brain are still friendly.
  • [18:07:40] <doublebeta> Well, the brain isn't. It turns out programming has rather the same effect of turning MOST of your brain to mush.
  • [18:08:05] <djlewis> sounds like a reasonable excuse for me :)
  • [18:08:46] <djlewis> my row / column addressing isnt what it could be :(
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  • [18:37:23] <prpplague> koen: you left without your altoid tins
  • [18:37:35] <koen> prpplague: I realized that
  • [18:37:45] <koen> kridner gave me one, but I needed 2
  • [18:38:07] <koen> prpplague: I dropped by your cube, but I suspect you were dealing with the broken pinky
  • [18:38:14] <prpplague> koen: indeed
  • [18:38:21] <prpplague> koen: it finally got fixed this morning
  • [18:38:26] <koen> so I harassed nipuna and rob clark instead
  • [18:38:32] <prpplague> koen: ahh
  • [18:38:32] <koen> prpplague: ah, that's good to hear
  • [18:38:43] <prpplague> koen: cost just a little over $10k
  • [18:39:27] * _av500_ does not comment on that
  • [18:39:33] <koen> it always amazes how good hospitals are at placing a price on health
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  • [18:40:43] <doublebeta> ^
  • [18:41:12] <koen> bgamari: did I see you showing up on the makerbot mailinglist?
  • [18:41:37] <doublebeta> whaaat, 10k? shit
  • [18:43:16] <doublebeta> Night all. 5:42AM. 23:50 human uptime. Bad.
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  • [18:43:32] <_av500_> news: coffee is now good against diabetes, cancer, alzheimer and female depression
  • [18:43:44] * _av500_ power up the nespresso
  • [18:43:46] <koen> good, I'm about to drink a cup
  • [18:43:56] <doublebeta-sleep> _av500_: that's the spirit
  • [18:44:02] <prpplague> koen: you seen the zentoolworks stuff?
  • [18:44:11] <doublebeta-sleep> but fyi - spirits still aren't good for you.
  • [18:44:34] <koen> prpplague: fwiw, ethernet is now working on the <secret>
  • [18:44:47] <prpplague> koen: lovely
  • [18:44:51] <koen> prpplague: and nipuna showed me a fresh <secret> ES
  • [18:44:54] <_av500_> koen: with a secret mac adress?
  • [18:45:09] <prpplague> koen: indeed
  • [18:45:12] <_av500_> on a secret subnet?
  • [18:45:12] <koen> _av500_: TI rEFUSEd to do the random mac thing again
  • [18:45:16] <doublebeta-sleep> but caffeine is a teratogen. It isn't good against cancer
  • [18:45:36] <_av500_> doublebeta-sleep: pick your placebos wisely
  • [18:46:00] <mru> _av500_: it's probably true about the coffee, I've never had any of those conditions
  • [18:46:07] <mru> now I know why
  • [18:46:11] <doublebeta-sleep> hm, indeed
  • [18:46:22] * mru should add "since I started drinking coffee"
  • [18:46:39] <_av500_> mru: maybe you had female depression but forgort about it?
  • [18:47:21] <_av500_> but otherwise i take that as logical proof
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  • [18:47:37] <koen> prpplague: the zentoolsworks thing looks familiar
  • [18:47:51] <prpplague> koen: oh?
  • [18:48:32] <koen> maybe it's the design
  • [18:50:52] <doublebeta-sleep> female depression. Is that: a) Depression in females b) Depression over females c) Pressing against a female; creating a depression; depressing a female.
  • [18:51:11] <doublebeta-sleep> and with this 'wise' question, I fly...
  • [18:51:15] <prpplague> koen: http://www.zentoolworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=74
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  • [18:51:35] <prpplague> koen: thinking about picking that one up to do some quick prototype pcb builds
  • [18:51:57] <koen> looks affordable
  • [18:52:40] <koen> prpplague: do a search for 'cnc' at kickstarter.com
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  • [18:52:51] <koen> I guess that's why the design looked to familiar
  • [18:53:47] <prpplague> koen: ahh
  • [18:54:13] <prpplague> koen: they have a 3D printer kit as well
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  • [18:58:31] <koen> heh
  • [18:58:43] <koen> av500: did you see that google uses jobs as an excuse to delay ICS?
  • [19:13:30] <koen> jkridner: does cloud9 depend on node?
  • [19:13:48] <jkridner> yes
  • [19:13:50] <koen> jkridner: if so, it will need an RDEPENDS_${PN} = nodejs
  • [19:14:01] <jkridner> k.
  • [19:14:19] <ds2> get a real cnc
  • [19:14:21] <koen> 3 guesses for what I'm working on now :)
  • [19:14:26] <koen> ds2: taig?
  • [19:14:33] <ds2> or sherline
  • [19:15:25] <ds2> run emc on it...then port emc to the beagle to control it and....
  • [19:15:55] <koen> emc doesn't need a port, only rtai
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  • [19:16:15] <ds2> true
  • [19:17:27] <ds2> help bring cnc to the masses.
  • [19:24:27] <sakoman> koen: have you run emc on beagle?
  • [19:24:48] <sakoman> just wondering what is behind "emc doesn't need a port"
  • [19:24:56] <koen> no, not rtai
  • [19:25:03] <koen> but emc is just plain code
  • [19:25:09] <koen> no asm and stuff
  • [19:25:17] <koen> so it's a compile, not a port
  • [19:25:23] <sakoman> will it work with xenomai?
  • [19:26:02] <koen> there are rumours it can
  • [19:26:22] <koen> jkridner: have you actually tried to build cloud9 before submitting the recipe?
  • [19:26:33] <jkridner> yeah.
  • [19:26:46] <koen> I don't believe that
  • [19:26:47] <koen> | ERROR: QA run found fatal errors. Please consider fixing them.
  • [19:27:05] <jkridner> I used a version of the recipe to build an .ipk that I put on the boards for the class...
  • [19:27:17] <koen> you're packaging non-arm binaries, which triggers the QA class
  • [19:28:33] <jkridner> don't know what to say. it worked for me.
  • [19:29:32] <jkridner> it is packing non-ARM binaries, that is true.
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  • [19:52:46] <bgamari> koen: Probably the Reprap list, yep
  • [19:53:07] <bgamari> koen: You're involved in the 3D printing community?
  • [19:54:44] <koen> bgamari: yes
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  • [19:56:01] <bgamari> Good to know
  • [19:56:31] <bgamari> I just brought up my Prusa a few weeks ago, working on reinventing the wheel (G code generator)
  • [19:56:56] <bgamari> I must admit that Skeinforge left me less than impressed
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  • [20:01:21] <koen> bgamari: you are being too kind for sf
  • [20:01:28] <koen> bgamari: sfact tries to improve on it
  • [20:01:36] <koen> but it feels like polishing a turd
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  • [20:12:57] <mranostay> nice visual
  • [20:13:52] <djlewis1> with an after odor
  • [20:15:56] <ds2> koen: wanna write a better one?
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  • [20:23:38] <Crofton|work> koen back to my binutils issue, did you have any clues?
  • [20:27:11] <koen> nope
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  • [20:28:31] <koen> root@dominion:/var/lib/transmission-daemon/downloads# losetup -j
  • [20:28:32] <koen> losetup: invalid option -- 'j'
  • [20:28:45] <koen> so 2 patches I applied without testing are broken
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  • [20:59:01] <koen> sdcard_image.bbclass | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
  • [20:59:09] * koen does a test build
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  • [21:01:03] <_av500_> koen: well, cant unveil an iphone *killer* now....
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  • [21:15:42] <ds2> heh
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  • [21:17:38] <koen> jkridner: have a look at https://github.com/koenkooi/meta-oe/tree/master/meta-oe/recipes-core/dropbear/dropbear-systemd on how to launch cloud9 on demand
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  • [21:34:17] <mru> s/debians.*/debian/
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  • [22:20:02] <koen> Installing cloud9 (0.5.1-r1) to root...
  • [22:20:02] <koen> Downloading http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/core/ipk/eglibc/armv7a/base/cloud9_0.5.1-r1_armv7a.ipk.
  • [22:20:27] <jkridner> koen: thanks for fixing!
  • [22:20:42] <koen> np
  • [22:23:09] <koen> looking at the honey-do list I'll have some time this weeking to write a systemd unit for it as well
  • [22:23:39] <koen> we'll have to see if we want to do it on-demand with socket activation or just start it on boot
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