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  • [02:17:44] <wmat> mru: I don't have the right cable to access the RS232 header
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  • [02:21:01] <djlewis_> couldnt get demo image to talk with my usb wifi but it likes my usb wired
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  • [02:32:54] <djlewis> joel_afk: hi
  • [02:33:15] <wmat> mru: just ordered one though
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  • [03:46:27] <Russ> av500, I got serial number 00126
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  • [10:42:03] <av500> nice: http://www.elektor.de/elektronik-news/einfache-umrustung-von-geraten-usb-zu-digital.1947962.lynkx
  • [10:43:41] <dm8tbr> :)
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  • [11:20:29] <juhsis> guys i wonder if openembedded is for crosscompiling or creating angstrom images?
  • [11:22:46] <juhsis> av500: at least can you reply this?
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  • [11:43:01] <koen> juhsis: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
  • [11:43:24] <Crofton> juhsis, Angstrom is built with OpenEmbedded.
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  • [11:45:18] <juhsis> i m seeking for cross compile, so if it is not for crosscompile that means i m wasting time :/
  • [11:55:57] * koen thinks juhsis should think less and try more
  • [11:57:05] <juhsis> koen: can you suggest me a clear document about cross-compile with openembedded?
  • [11:58:14] <koen> go to the angstrom website and click 'developers'
  • [11:58:19] <koen> then follow the instructions
  • [11:58:25] <av500> developers developers developers
  • [11:58:53] <koen> most people fail to follow the instructions and then go whine on irc or the mailinglist
  • [11:59:00] <koen> so make sure you follow the instructions
  • [11:59:41] <juhsis> yeap i did the instructions before.. but what is next? it finished suddenly
  • [12:00:16] <koen> go to the angstrom website, read the news articles
  • [12:00:34] <koen> if it isn't clear by then, consider changing jobs
  • [12:01:53] <juhsis> at developers, step 3 : for more information : http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Getting_Started
  • [12:02:08] <juhsis> page not exist..
  • [12:02:09] <koen> I know what it says, I wrote it
  • [12:02:42] <koen> 14:00 < koen> go to the angstrom website, read the news articles
  • [12:02:42] <koen> 14:00 < koen> if it isn't clear by then, consider changing jobs
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  • [12:06:27] <juhsis> i couldnt find, link pls..
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  • [12:11:19] <juhsis> and also i think under developers article you told preparing angstrom images. But i need cross-compile..
  • [12:11:45] <koen> and?
  • [12:11:56] <koen> it prepares images for beagleboard on your host computer
  • [12:12:02] <koen> do you know what that's called?
  • [12:12:12] <koen> I'll give you 3 guess and a hint
  • [12:12:21] <koen> cro.......ling
  • [12:12:35] <juhsis> images means packaged operating systems?
  • [12:13:00] <koen> 2 guesses left
  • [12:13:36] <juhsis> ok :) cross compiling
  • [12:13:42] <koen> exactly
  • [12:14:02] <ant_work> pheww
  • [12:14:19] <juhsis> but by apologizes, i didnt find the instructions
  • [12:16:13] <juhsis> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom it is telling for installing openembedded, and at where do you mention about compiling with openembedded
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  • [13:55:20] <jkridner> I finally applied one of those use-die-id-for-mac-address to my xM kernel.
  • [13:56:15] <jkridner> I've uploaded it on my gitorious ulcd-android-20110916 branch and will go ahead and do a quick meta-ti submission.
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  • [13:59:24] <koen> people still use gitorious?
  • [13:59:30] <koen> even linus is using github nowadays
  • [14:06:10] <koen> jkridner: http://git.angstrom-distribution.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/meta-texasinstruments/commit/?id=58c3fab37d0de2709fa1c270a02e24dadb4e9096
  • [14:06:16] <koen> jkridner: that should help with generating the patches
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  • [14:06:51] <koen> jkridner: you might need to play with the TAG variable a bit if you don't have greg k-h's tags in your repo
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  • [14:21:45] <jkridner> thanks, I was looking for that again.
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  • [14:44:55] <wmat> jkridner: is there anything special about the rev C5 bb OTG USB port that would cause my workstation to fail to unumerate it as a USB device?
  • [14:45:10] <wmat> s/unumerate/enumerate
  • [14:45:45] <wmat> i continually get: device not accepting address 36, error -110
  • [14:45:51] <jkridner> well, you need to be running valid device software and make sure you are supplying the board with enough power, but, no, the OTG port should work just fine.
  • [14:46:10] <jkridner> what are you booting into?
  • [14:46:19] <jkridner> just the u-boot that ships with it?
  • [14:46:22] <jkridner> or into Linux?
  • [14:46:30] <wmat> into Linux
  • [14:46:36] <wmat> the C5 validation image
  • [14:46:51] <av500> wmat: dont run that unproven fringe OS :)
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  • [14:47:03] <wmat> heh
  • [14:47:26] <jkridner> joelagnel: for the C5 validation image, did you test OTG functionality?
  • [14:48:14] <jkridner> the diagnostics list included some otg testing.
  • [14:48:41] <jkridner> ah, no joelagnel....
  • [14:49:20] <jkridner> I need to see if he executed that portion of the tests or how CircuitCo tests it in production.
  • [14:49:45] <jkridner> they might test it in u-boot, though that would surprise me a bit.
  • [14:49:51] <wmat> i'll try another host in the meantime
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  • [15:02:57] <arcanescu> is there a egalax touchscreen driver on angstrom?
  • [15:03:52] <wmat> jkridner: i think there's an issue with the usb ports on my desktop, as I can't get it to detect my bb-xm either. But the serial port on the XM works fine.
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  • [15:07:55] <jkridner> joelagnel: review the log to see questions from wmat regarding MUSB on C5.
  • [15:07:57] <jkridner> or not. :(
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  • [15:08:28] <jkridner> joelagnel: review the log to see questions from member:wmat regarding MUSB on C5.
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  • [15:09:16] <joelagnel> ok
  • [15:09:33] <jkridner> do you know if it was tested in the validation image?
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  • [15:09:56] <jkridner> oh, I just remembered that C5 actually ships with Linux.... thats how far gone my mind is.
  • [15:11:15] <joelagnel> jkridner, I didn't specially test for musb functionality when the image for C5 went out
  • [15:12:13] <jkridner> k. do we know if it works in the r2 image?
  • [15:12:52] <jkridner> do we have pending change requests on r2 other than the list of packages I had sent a long time back?
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  • [15:13:47] * joelagnel has to context switch to answer that better :|
  • [15:14:10] <joelagnel> musb functionality is broken from what I hear people screaming on IRC
  • [15:14:57] <joelagnel> but it works depending on the use case. For me g_ether worked fine iirc
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  • [15:15:23] <joelagnel> ds2, ?
  • [15:17:35] <arcanescu> oh eGalax already has support
  • [15:20:03] <joelagnel> jkridner, doesn't it say here that its broken?
  • [15:20:04] <joelagnel> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext
  • [15:20:24] <jkridner> that just says that the instructions need work.
  • [15:20:35] <jkridner> as far as i recall
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  • [15:29:22] <joelagnel> Anyone know off the top what does the "board header" mean in U-boot and where is it located?
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  • [15:30:43] <wmat> joelagnel: include/configs/<name>.h I think
  • [15:31:08] <arcanescu> joelagnel: i think it has the pin/mux defintions
  • [15:31:21] <joelagnel> wmat, ah :) I thought it was some specially header that was slapped onto U-boot
  • [15:31:25] <joelagnel> *special
  • [15:31:45] <arcanescu> joelagnel: i saw someone trying to modify it to get some extra hw working
  • [15:32:07] <joelagnel> arcanescu, thanks. I believe the pin mux defs are in board/ti/beagle though if I'm right
  • [15:32:45] <arcanescu> hmmm yea...
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  • [15:46:02] <djlewis> who to speak with about packages that show in demo opkg inventory but wont download?
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  • [15:58:51] <muriani> djlewis: opkg update doesn't fix them?
  • [15:59:13] <djlewis> mruhi, no but it is suggested at each failure to dnld
  • [15:59:26] <muriani> huh.
  • [15:59:26] <djlewis> other apps libs etc are installing
  • [15:59:46] <muriani> Right, still sounds like a stale cache.
  • [15:59:54] <muriani> is there a opkg library clean option?
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  • [16:00:08] <djlewis> I got a fresh narcissus build last night working and working off that
  • [16:00:11] <muriani> I don't know too much about using it
  • [16:00:14] <muriani> ah, it's working now?
  • [16:00:21] <djlewis> seems
  • [16:00:42] <djlewis> muriani: sorry, I typod yourname
  • [16:00:56] <muriani> I figured :)
  • [16:01:15] <djlewis> ther were no errors on build and I got a small and large build
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  • [16:01:21] <muriani> sweet
  • [16:01:52] <djlewis> kinda had in my mind narcissus was later than 2.6.32
  • [16:01:58] <muriani> yeah when I was working on my recent narcissus build opkg update fixed all my issues :/
  • [16:02:06] <djlewis> right now opkg update seems hung
  • [16:02:11] <muriani> ugh
  • [16:02:19] <wmat> hmm, my boards trigger the usb over-current protection on my PC consistently
  • [16:02:33] <djlewis> power external
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  • [16:03:13] <muriani> yeah
  • [16:03:34] <muriani> I usually run a 5v to the beagle as well as USB. Only power via USB if nothing else is available
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  • [16:04:24] * djlewis never powers BB from usb
  • [16:04:44] <wmat> i am powering my boards externally
  • [16:05:00] <djlewis> ah, pkg update started rolling again
  • [16:07:01] <wmat> i'm beginning to dislike USB enormously
  • [16:07:15] <djlewis> wmat: use serial console
  • [16:07:45] <wmat> djlewis: i do with the xm, but the rev.c requires a serial ribbon cable, which I don't have (yet)
  • [16:07:50] <djlewis> i use usb to serial to my BB
  • [16:07:54] <djlewis> oh\
  • [16:08:21] <muriani> djlewis: yeha, that was the issue we were trying to iron out yesterday, since he didn't have the serial
  • [16:08:32] <djlewis> i remember
  • [16:08:38] <muriani> seems OTG's not working out either :/
  • [16:09:02] <djlewis> muriani: on your
  • [16:09:05] <djlewis> ?
  • [16:09:11] <muriani> no, wmat's
  • [16:09:32] <muriani> OTG serial and uart work great on mine.
  • [16:09:35] <djlewis> i once jumpersd my oth for host mode. did that get checked?
  • [16:09:39] <djlewis> otg
  • [16:09:41] <muriani> but I'm a rev. C3 I think
  • [16:09:52] <muriani> hm
  • [16:09:55] <muriani> I didn't suggest it
  • [16:09:56] <joelagnel> serial and uart?
  • [16:10:17] <muriani> joelagnel: non-OTG serial, sorry.
  • [16:10:36] <muriani> using serial cable, and USB cable for serial console both work
  • [16:10:37] <joelagnel> muriani, ah ok ;) What kernel are you using? Is this the beagleboard demo image?
  • [16:11:11] <muriani> narcissus, ubuntu lucid, whatever kernels they ship :P
  • [16:11:19] <muriani> I don't think I've ever used the demo image
  • [16:12:01] <muriani> kernel didn't really matter since I mostly needed it for uboot access
  • [16:12:32] <muriani> I bought me a serial cable for the beagle when I ordered the board though
  • [16:12:43] <muriani> so I was never without some form of console access
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  • [16:14:05] <joelagnel> muriani, I was just trying to get a feel of the current state of musb in the newer kernels
  • [16:14:14] <muriani> Ah, I have no idea :)
  • [16:14:38] <joelagnel> ok nm :)
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  • [16:26:35] <jkridner> any way to build kernel w/o modules in OE?
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  • [16:30:24] <rOxx> hello, i have installed a battery on my beagleboard xm, but i dont know how to configure to store automatically the time on shutdown and restore it from the hwclock on the boot process. can anyone help me ?
  • [16:32:11] <rOxx> i know that i need "hwclock -w ???localtime" on shutdown and on boot "hwclock -s".
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  • [16:45:36] <arcanescu> ok egalax driver does not work for beagle anyone who ahs got this to work?
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  • [16:47:42] <koen> jkridner: bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f
  • [16:47:50] <koen> jkridner: that will skip compile_modules
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  • [16:56:30] <djlewis> perhaps i cant get these packages cause they are duplicated with opkg list pkg ex: jack
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  • [16:56:47] <djlewis> gotta go, i'll check in later in a while
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  • [17:05:49] <jkridner> koen: thanks!
  • [17:06:26] <koen> jkridner: you can thank crappy netra for that, I had to split do_compile into 2 parts for that
  • [17:06:40] <_av500_> why?
  • [17:07:10] <koen> external syslink headers needed for in-tree modules
  • [17:07:21] <_av500_> haha
  • [17:07:54] <koen> want to know how they fixed that?
  • [17:08:12] <koen> patch in wbu syslink (the one without camelcase)
  • [17:08:24] <koen> and then make the external modules depend on the API with camelcase
  • [17:08:34] <koen> so you get 2 syslinks in one kernel
  • [17:08:52] <koen> qualiTI software engineering
  • [17:09:25] <_av500_> i start to believe that syslink is bridge after rot13
  • [17:10:09] <koen> syslink2 is that
  • [17:10:16] <koen> syslink3 is link after rot13
  • [17:13:04] <_av500_> i am looking at the same code bits for 5ys, only the casing changes :)
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  • [17:14:18] <dm8tbr> steganography, version number is encoded as bits by camel case
  • [17:20:42] <mdp> hrm...2 syslinks in 1...sounds like a BOGO deal
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  • [18:40:46] <^Willie^> hi there, sorry that i ask you guys but any idea where i must go for serial/usbserial based low speed i2c conversion/bit banging ?
  • [18:45:17] <djlewis> ^Willie^: both serial and usb to i2c adapters are available
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  • [18:52:22] <^Willie^> djlewis: hi, ehm i have seen some circuits around that do bit bang a onboard serial port over dtr rts also i'm unsure if they work since i'm new to i2c i hoped that it was going like i-button/1-wire
  • [18:52:48] <^Willie^> djlewis: i hoped to do it over a profilic pl2303hx usb-232 adapter in 3.3v ttl mode
  • [18:53:00] <djlewis> interesting
  • [18:54:53] <^Willie^> and have seen 2 options.. one bitbang via the io control. other option like with ft232rl but no circuit availible direct rx/tx+dtr for the bitbang part i think i must write the whole interface layer conversion and when able to use the usb-i2c way can use it as a raw comport and talk to it.
  • [18:55:00] <^Willie^> usb-i2c example -> http://www.superrobotica.com/s310425.htm
  • [18:55:12] <^Willie^> i think it is a ft232rl + pic for clockgenerator.
  • [18:55:43] <^Willie^> sadly i have no ftdi based usb 232 breakout board here :(
  • [18:56:36] <^Willie^> since i had to google a long time to find some example information that was usefull i guessed i was looking for the wrong way :(
  • [18:56:42] <^Willie^> and rs232-i2c http://serdisplib.sourceforge.net/ser/i2c_ericssont2x.html
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  • [18:57:14] <prpplague> ^Willie^: ft2232 already has support for i2c, spi and jtag
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  • [18:58:10] <^Willie^> prpplague: i know but i don't have that and closest option i can order next week will be a ft232rl breakout for arduino :(
  • [18:58:25] <prpplague> uh ok
  • [18:58:37] <^Willie^> prpplague: also i have a box with pl2303 here and have seen this topic. http://www.robot-electronics.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=477
  • [18:58:38] <prpplague> ^Willie^: why would you not be able to order a ft2232?
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  • [18:58:56] <djlewis> inquiring minds want to know :)
  • [18:59:11] <^Willie^> hey explane that he can talk raw/hex to the comport and get data from a lm75 but i wonder if that is not simply 1-wire since he have no circuit example.
  • [18:59:43] <^Willie^> prpplague: low budget and feel bad about paypal due my expirience a long time ago :(
  • [19:00:04] <prpplague> http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=DLP-2232M-Gvirtualkey62620000virtualkey626-DLP2232M-G
  • [19:00:16] <^Willie^> so i was looking for people or a channel where they can help me with this since it is not about beagle board.
  • [19:00:51] <djlewis> you can bitbang i2c with a parallel port
  • [19:00:54] <^Willie^> i do know mouser/future elec/farnell/digikey yes but then i to order +50eur or must have a registered company to order something :(
  • [19:01:33] <^Willie^> djlewis: yes but i want/need it over usb for using it later on broadcom embedded boards as remote sensor or remote display
  • [19:02:00] <^Willie^> basicly remote 232/i2c/1-wire is the idea also the reason for "low speed" due all the latency
  • [19:02:07] <djlewis> use a at85 pic
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  • [19:02:16] <djlewis> thinks that is right
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  • [19:02:44] <djlewis> atTiny85
  • [19:02:59] <^Willie^> if i use a pic or avr i don't need all wat i have, and not to make it a problem but please no avr or pic. i try to do that in linux something i can better understand till now.
  • [19:03:12] <^Willie^> else i was not looking for how to do it..
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  • [19:03:20] <djlewis> well, google is your friend :)
  • [19:03:31] <^Willie^> djlewis: hmm afther 2 weeks it is time to ask around i think.
  • [19:03:58] <^Willie^> just weird that theire is no DIY solution around and lm-sensors dropped the seri2c module
  • [19:04:00] <djlewis> I want to build a i2c interface with parts I have on hand, how to do this ;)
  • [19:04:32] <prpplague> ^Willie^: there are tons of solutions and DIY, just sounds like none fit your skills, budget and time line
  • [19:04:40] <^Willie^> my interest started triggering me afther reading about the pl2303 in 9600 baud mode talking to a lm75..
  • [19:05:59] <^Willie^> prpplague: hmm any idea where i can find solutions that are trust full ? one option with pl2303 is they have a i2c eeprom that can be read and writen while using the adapter so i figured extending the line and somehow create a device node can do the trick
  • [19:06:53] <^Willie^> since the driver is doing the same as echo -e "\x54\x9B\x02" > /dev/usb/tts/0
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  • [19:08:05] <^Willie^> i guessed there are more users doing such thing thats why i asked
  • [19:09:59] <djlewis> pick it off your video port DDC
  • [19:10:32] <^Willie^> djlewis: embedded headless linux nodes have no video :(
  • [19:10:50] <djlewis> oh the info slowlytrickles out
  • [19:11:08] <^Willie^> all i want is simple way to send/receive from a sensor or display controller without loosing plug and play incase something need to be replaced
  • [19:11:36] <^Willie^> else i can better drop the i2c wish and stay on 1-wire..
  • [19:11:41] <^Willie^> and no display modules.
  • [19:11:56] <^Willie^> guess no-one that feel like explaining possibilitys :(
  • [19:12:08] <^Willie^> but thanks anyway
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  • [20:15:22] <Itachi> I have LV-MaxSonar EZ1 connected via RS-232....I wanted to test it from BeagleBoard XM Rev C. I tried to read the device file ttyS0, ttyS1, ttyS2, ttyS3 all of them gave Input/Output error. What is the rite device file to read/write RS-232?
  • [20:16:40] <woglinde_> hm which kernel?
  • [20:16:55] <woglinde_> try ttyO2
  • [20:17:15] <Itachi> 3.0.4-x3
  • [20:17:23] <woglinde_> then ttyO2
  • [20:17:37] <woglinde_> wonder how you got serial console?
  • [20:17:44] <woglinde_> via the rs232
  • [20:18:06] <Itachi> yeah...and set up ssh.
  • [20:18:17] <woglinde_> ?
  • [20:18:27] <woglinde_> sure ssh
  • [20:18:28] <jacekowski> Itachi: disable serial console
  • [20:18:41] <woglinde_> jacekowski ah right
  • [20:18:48] <woglinde_> getty must be should down too
  • [20:18:57] <woglinde_> ups shut down
  • [20:19:41] <woglinde_> Itachi so try lsof and grep fro ttyO2
  • [20:20:07] <woglinde_> you maybee need to edit /etc/inittab
  • [20:20:13] <woglinde_> or /etc/init
  • [20:20:35] <woglinde_> depening on if you are using sysv style init or systemd
  • [20:21:39] <Itachi> @woglinde_ lsof | grep tty02 didn't return any matches...
  • [20:22:05] <woglinde_> hm
  • [20:22:25] <woglinde_> then ps -ef and search for getty
  • [20:24:50] <Itachi> http://pastebin.com/Kz84A7UG
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  • [20:25:42] <Itachi> @jacekowski Why to disable serial console?
  • [20:29:39] <Itachi> @woglinde_ I have added the output to paste bin:http://pastebin.com/Kz84A7UG
  • [20:30:07] <woglinde_> Itachi because beagleboard runs a getty on the serial
  • [20:30:15] <woglinde_> so no other process can use it
  • [20:30:45] <woglinde_> /sbin/getty 115200 ttyO2
  • [20:30:48] <woglinde_> there it is
  • [20:31:50] <jacekowski> ttyS2
  • [20:31:58] <woglinde_> ?
  • [20:31:58] <Itachi> should i kill getty?
  • [20:32:05] <woglinde_> he has 3.0 kernel
  • [20:32:06] <jacekowski> Itachi: edit /etc/inittab
  • [20:32:12] <woglinde_> so its ttyO2
  • [20:32:16] <jacekowski> woglinde_: that's posh
  • [20:32:19] <woglinde_> and he has proably systemd
  • [20:32:26] <woglinde_> so the config file is under /etc/init
  • [20:33:22] <Itachi> @woglinde_ which config file?
  • [20:33:36] <Itachi> tty02.conf
  • [20:33:39] <Itachi> ?
  • [20:33:40] <woglinde_> yes
  • [20:33:51] <woglinde_> hm
  • [20:34:08] <Itachi> ok
  • [20:34:09] <woglinde_> you could remove it
  • [20:34:12] <woglinde_> and restart
  • [20:34:15] <woglinde_> or stop it
  • [20:34:31] <woglinde_> but cannt remember the systemd syntax at the moment
  • [20:34:33] <woglinde_> to stop it
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  • [20:35:39] <jacekowski> ugh
  • [20:35:40] <jacekowski> systemd
  • [20:35:51] <woglinde_> why ugh?
  • [20:35:52] <jacekowski> that's something from same idiot that created pulseaudio
  • [20:36:10] <woglinde_> with systemd beagle userspace boots in 3 sec's
  • [20:36:24] <woglinde_> do this with systemv
  • [20:36:36] <jacekowski> upstart
  • [20:36:55] <woglinde_> no real support for upstart in oe
  • [20:36:58] <woglinde_> only partly
  • [20:37:18] <jacekowski> systemd requires daemons to be modified to be fully compatible
  • [20:37:26] <jacekowski> and is depending on dbus
  • [20:37:43] <woglinde_> and?
  • [20:37:47] <jacekowski> and it's from same guy that came up with PA which alone is good enough to don't use it
  • [20:38:02] <woglinde_> I dont like pa
  • [20:38:06] <woglinde_> but systemd is fine
  • [20:38:35] <woglinde_> that the author is childish is another case
  • [20:39:04] <Itachi> @woglinde_ I removed it and now i am restarting....
  • [20:39:10] <woglinde_> I live in the same town, but never met him
  • [20:39:19] <woglinde_> itachi okay
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  • [20:45:06] <Itachi> @woglinde_ Thanks, I guess the serial port is working now.....
  • [20:46:20] <woglinde_> fine
  • [20:46:21] <woglinde_> ;)
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  • [21:33:57] <djlewis> yea! another beagleboard tech support success story :)
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  • [22:12:08] <jkridner> nice... power outage
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  • [22:12:24] <djlewis> head home early dude :)
  • [22:12:50] <djlewis> its those early weekend drunks hitting the power poles
  • [22:18:49] <djlewis> latter...
  • [22:18:52] <muriani> I would *love* to head home early.
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  • [22:19:10] <djlewis> muriani: i'll head home early for you :)
  • [22:19:15] <muriani> unfortunately, if we had a power outage here, I'd be compelled to stay :/
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