[00:18:38] <mru> hmm, that compiler spits out elf files with sections the gnu linker refuses to eat
[00:18:41] * mru patches
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[01:17:56] <RobotGuy> mru: Talking to yourself again? :D
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[01:34:39] <djlewis> argh! i cant get focused
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[01:47:02] <mru> hmm, VNEG.U16 Q1, Q1
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[02:43:28] <djlewis> wow! my internet speed sucks tonight
[02:46:31] <djlewis> dejavu
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[03:08:05] <ds2> Crofton: your kernel is misconfigured... change the MUSB adaptation to use the OMAP2/OMAP3 one not the AM35xx which is apparently different
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[12:07:44] <Crofton> ds2, I saw fialures on both
[12:09:09] <Crofton> It built at rc4
[12:09:15] <Crofton> now to try testing :)
[12:09:31] <Crofton> if I have to go back from here, I can dropp usb support I hope
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[12:11:47] <mru> gaaaah, why must glibc use gcc extensions for no fucking reason at all?
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[12:21:35] <mru> time to patch it
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[15:41:34] <koen> mru: glibc or eglibc?
[15:42:04] <mru> glibc, didn't check eglibc
[15:42:10] <mru> I doubt they've fixed all that nonsense
[15:42:12] <koen> Crofton: am35xx usually means shiva, which has a different dma block for musb
[15:42:37] <koen> mru: still tons of nonsense, but their release branch gets a lot of backports
[15:42:49] * koen is still at eglibc 2.12
[15:43:14] <mru> I'm talking about "typedef int int64_t __attribute__ ((__mode__ (__DI__)));"
[15:43:23] <mru> that's pure nonsense
[15:43:49] <mru> there's no advantage whatsoever over using long long as supported by every compiler ever made
[15:43:55] <mru> including gcc
[15:44:13] <mru> and the sane version is in another half of an ifdef
[15:44:42] <mru> tms470 defines __GNUC__ but doesn't support that attribute
[15:44:57] <mru> guess what happens if you define all the intN_t types as int
[15:45:29] <woglinde> hm wasn the arm port on glibc chassed anyway?
[15:45:40] <koen> chassed?
[15:45:57] <woglinde> hm let me find a better translation
[15:47:55] <woglinde> sacked
[15:48:01] <woglinde> in some terms
[15:48:07] <mru> I'm at glibc 2.11 btw
[15:48:14] <mru> the later ones either don't build or don't work
[15:48:28] <mru> on any system
[15:49:09] <woglinde> so better use eglibc?
[15:50:25] <mru> same codebase, same crap
[15:50:42] <koen> woglinde: historically drepper has tried to get rid of everything !x86
[15:51:10] <koen> woglinde: hence the 'ports' tarballs
[15:54:36] <woglinde> mru write your own
[15:55:04] <mru> I deleted the offending lines
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[15:56:08] <woglinde> this guy tries it or so
[15:56:10] <woglinde> http://davidz25.blogspot.com/2011/07/writing-c-library-intro-conclusion-and.html
[15:57:03] <mru> that's about writing a library in C
[15:57:08] <mru> not about writing THE C library
[15:57:15] <woglinde> uhm
[15:57:17] <woglinde> okay
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[15:57:48] <djlewis> been there, done that, hiding...
[15:58:19] <koen> woglinde: david got fed up with crappy libs, so he wrote that series of blog posts
[15:58:53] <mru> I doubt it will help
[15:59:09] <koen> it is mostly about the fact that lots of basic stuff is already out there (hash function, RPC, IPC, networking) and you should reuse that
[15:59:43] <mru> except most of those libs suck
[15:59:51] <woglinde> koen a smart programmar would that
[15:59:55] <woglinde> +do
[16:00:06] <woglinde> but there arent that many smart one
[16:00:12] <koen> I tried to explain to my coworkers that there is a big difference between developers and packagers and that they should try to do packaging with the makefile
[16:00:30] <koen> *not* try do that
[16:00:44] <woglinde> koen yes
[16:01:33] <woglinde> they should give if possible write access to they package maintainer
[16:01:40] <woglinde> of the great distros
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[16:02:27] <koen> I don't think distro packagers want access to the clearcase repo inside the ti firewall
[16:02:43] <woglinde> was more a general thought
[16:03:13] <koen> this was more about the idea that on e.g. ubuntu you do 'apt-get install' and not './configure && make && make install'
[16:03:26] <woglinde> yes
[16:03:31] <woglinde> on redhat yum
[16:03:44] <woglinde> all other will limit your user
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[16:32:20] <prpplague> koen / ds2 : i added a page for the multi-expansion discussion with a reference schematic, feel free to use the page for the discussion http://elinux.org/Animal_Boards_Multi_Expansion
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[17:47:00] <mru> koen: btw, do you know anything about tms470 4.9.0?
[17:47:47] <mru> I found 4.9.0B2 on the website and some things are working better now
[17:48:31] <mru> there are references to a final 4.9.0 release both in the bug database and on some wiki
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[18:07:48] <jeybop> hi
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[18:22:07] <jeybop> is there any hardware way to properly switch off a BB-xM?
[18:23:55] <mru> unplug it
[18:24:15] <woglinde> yepp
[18:24:16] <jeybop> there are no risk to brick the board this way?
[18:24:25] <woglinde> no?
[18:24:32] <mru> I can't think of a more switched-off state
[18:24:45] <woglinde> you can only brick the fs on the sdcard
[18:24:48] <woglinde> in rare cases
[18:24:54] <jeybop> ok
[18:24:57] <jeybop> thanks
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