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  • [01:31:56] <djlewis> wazzup?
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  • [01:38:15] <djlewis> oops. reboot time
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  • [03:30:21] <djlewis> dang, FF uses some serious cpu
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  • [03:55:23] <ShadowJK> Why do you think they started making quad core laptops
  • [03:55:59] <thurgood> to play games?
  • [03:56:17] <ds2> battery industry needs subsidys?
  • [03:56:19] <thurgood> I use a quad core laptop for several reasons, gaming is not one of them
  • [03:56:42] <C-o-r-E> bitcoin mining, obviously
  • [03:56:43] <thurgood> I leave the games for my desktop
  • [03:57:03] <ShadowJK> minecraft, clearly
  • [03:57:54] <thurgood> heh
  • [03:58:20] <thurgood> I actually registered that game, but haven't played it much due to time constraints
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  • [04:14:33] <veetid> using the BeagleBoard xM device. I have an 800x480 Lilliput display and I want to add a custom 24/32 bpp resolutio for the device, has anyone used one before and know the best hfp, hbp, vfp, vbp, etc... settings?
  • [04:15:34] <mru> check edid
  • [04:18:53] <ds2> blah
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  • [04:47:23] <emeb_mac> crickets
  • [04:48:41] <ds2> hot crickets
  • [04:49:16] <emeb_mac> yep
  • [04:49:23] <emeb_mac> chirping fast
  • [04:49:59] <ds2> skewer them with a saguro spine
  • [04:50:33] <emeb_mac> fry 'em up
  • [04:50:40] <emeb_mac> tasty!
  • [04:50:45] <emeb_mac> (so I hear)
  • [04:51:00] <ds2> it is only protein
  • [04:51:10] <emeb_mac> wiggly protein
  • [04:52:40] <emeb_mac> T(deg F) ~= fchirp * 15 + 37
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  • [07:09:36] <rlrosa> hi
  • [07:09:41] <rlrosa> anybody around?
  • [07:09:59] <rlrosa> i'm trying to get pwm working on a beagle, using this
  • [07:10:00] <rlrosa> https://github.com/neo01124/omap3-pwm
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  • [07:51:20] <rlrosa> hello...?
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  • [07:53:10] <thurgood> guess there's nobody up that knows what you're trying to accomplish
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  • [07:56:04] <rlrosa> :(
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  • [07:59:21] <rlrosa> thurgood: do you have any experience compiling kernels with bitbake?
  • [07:59:34] <thurgood> a little, with oe
  • [07:59:42] <rlrosa> thurgood: nice
  • [07:59:49] <thurgood> which is essentially bitbake
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  • [08:00:20] <rlrosa> thurgood: i think i just now got it to do actually compile. after setting everything, running butbake virtual/kernel should do the trick, right?
  • [08:00:25] <thurgood> or rather uses bitbake
  • [08:01:41] <thurgood> yes, it will, but it also removes the temporary files when it's done
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  • [08:02:10] <thurgood> if you want to pay with configurations you're better off using slightly different commands
  • [08:02:19] <thurgood> play that is
  • [08:02:28] <rlrosa> like?...
  • [08:02:50] <rlrosa> something to get some makefile-ish behavoir, to only compile changes??
  • [08:03:12] <thurgood> first: bitbake -c devshell virtual/kernel
  • [08:03:52] <thurgood> this allows you to use: make menuconfig
  • [08:04:03] <thurgood> which allows you to modify kernel settings
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  • [08:05:06] <rlrosa> ok
  • [08:05:07] <thurgood> then after exiting the devshell window use: bitbake -f -c compile virtual/kernel
  • [08:05:32] <thurgood> this mostly only build the files needed for the new configuration
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  • [08:06:15] <rlrosa> ok, great!
  • [08:06:34] <rlrosa> the guy from the pwm, which is my next step, suggests modifying this file
  • [08:06:34] <rlrosa> https://github.com/neo01124/omap3-pwm/blob/master/beagle-source-me.txt
  • [08:06:40] <thurgood> to get the actual uImage kernel use: bitbake -c deploy virtual/kernel
  • [08:06:57] <rlrosa> oh ok. that's importante :)
  • [08:07:15] <rlrosa> about the file again, i could not figure out the KERNELDIR
  • [08:07:21] <thurgood> and importantly does not run rmwork when complete
  • [08:07:40] <rlrosa> after running the virtual/kernel i should be able to find the KERNELDIR, right?
  • [08:07:46] <rlrosa> ok, i'll run that sequence
  • [08:07:55] <koen> rlrosa: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/some-usefull-workflow-blogs
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  • [08:11:21] <thurgood> KERNELDIR in this script depends on your OETREEE environment variable
  • [08:11:42] <rlrosa> koen: do you think i could do something like http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2011/05/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/ to add the pwm from https://github.com/neo01124/omap3-pwm ?
  • [08:13:16] <koen> why not?
  • [08:13:16] <rlrosa> thurgood: i found that var, but there was no beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/kernel under ${OETREE}
  • [08:13:30] <rlrosa> i had only ran bitbake nano
  • [08:13:50] <rlrosa> that did a ton of stuff, but it does not build the kernel, right?
  • [08:14:44] <rlrosa> (i never did any kernel stuff, nor embedded hw stuff, though i'll be doing a lot, and i'm trying to give something back here (http://code.google.com/p/uquad/w/list))
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  • [08:15:55] <thurgood> not sure about the staging directory....
  • [08:16:05] <thurgood> is that still the correct path koen?
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  • [08:20:30] <koen> thurgood: depends on the release you're checking out, but the general idea still holds
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  • [08:22:35] <rlrosa> thurgood: what is the -f flag for?
  • [08:22:48] <rlrosa> thurgood: (when calling bitbake)
  • [08:29:24] <thurgood> without it it says nothing to do or something to that effect
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  • [08:33:36] <thurgood> it's not needed the first time you run it with -c compile
  • [08:34:03] <thurgood> but you'll need it on subsequent runs if you don't remove temporary work
  • [08:34:12] <rlrosa> thurgood: ok
  • [08:35:04] <thurgood> and keeping temporary work is definitely a timesaver if you're tweaking kernel configs
  • [08:35:30] <rlrosa> thurgood: sure looks like it, i'd never had to compile these big things before
  • [08:35:52] <thurgood> or modify kernel sources, and don't want to reapply patches of your work every time
  • [08:36:10] <rlrosa> thurgood: true
  • [08:36:25] <rlrosa> thurgood: have you ever used the beagle to control motors?
  • [08:36:53] <thurgood> nope
  • [08:37:16] <thurgood> there are several peoplein here I think that have though
  • [08:38:10] <thurgood> whether they're watching or just idling at the moment is another matter though
  • [08:42:18] <thurgood> getting late in my time zone need to sleep
  • [08:42:21] <rlrosa> thurgood: is it late at your zone_
  • [08:42:40] <thurgood> coming up on 2am
  • [08:43:06] <rlrosa> thurgood: more or less, must be close. i'm from Uruguay, but living near LA, CA
  • [08:43:25] <rlrosa> thurgood: thanks for the help
  • [08:43:36] <thurgood> n/p
  • [08:43:41] <thurgood> g'night
  • [08:43:54] <rlrosa> thurgood: bye!
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  • [13:51:18] <woglinde> hejo crofton
  • [13:51:33] <Crofton> hi
  • [13:51:35] <Crofton> now in Dublin
  • [13:52:08] <khem> woglinde: did you replace use of %p in fscanf (talking about systemd/uclibc)
  • [13:52:14] <khem> err %m
  • [13:52:42] <woglinde> ah right
  • [13:52:45] <woglinde> sorry
  • [13:52:56] <woglinde> I sued the poor mans variant
  • [13:53:09] <woglinde> and used char*
  • [13:53:17] <woglinde> hm mom I can give you my patch
  • [13:53:37] <khem> systemd is not written c99/posix in mind
  • [13:53:39] <khem> thats clear
  • [13:54:10] <woglinde> sure
  • [13:54:13] <woglinde> its lennart
  • [13:54:21] <Crofton> I need to find a .ie/.uk power adapter
  • [13:54:24] <Crofton> crap
  • [13:54:34] <woglinde> and he will give a shit on it when you talk about it with him
  • [13:54:45] <woglinde> thats what I fear
  • [13:54:48] <woglinde> buy one
  • [13:55:16] <woglinde> khem his argument will be "it's only for linux"
  • [13:55:24] <khem> so
  • [13:55:36] <khem> does lnx have more than on C library
  • [13:55:47] <khem> one
  • [13:55:50] <woglinde> khem www.familie-heinold.de/uclibc.patch
  • [13:56:10] <woglinde> khem than he will tell you that uclibc users are only 100 or so and it isnt worth
  • [13:58:14] <khem> yeah
  • [13:58:29] <khem> but %m might be in posix in future
  • [13:59:38] <khem> oh well
  • [13:59:51] <woglinde> ?
  • [14:00:08] <mru> Crofton: so when are you coming to southampton?
  • [14:00:16] <woglinde> hm we should do some talks about uclibc on conferences
  • [14:00:36] <Crofton> heh
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  • [14:00:40] <Crofton> not this go round
  • [14:00:47] <Crofton> seems like I am everywhere else though
  • [14:01:00] <mru> just as well, my place is still a mess
  • [14:01:20] <woglinde> Crofton are you on vacation now?
  • [14:01:35] <mru> Crofton: btw, why aren't you on google+?
  • [14:01:43] <Crofton> I need an invite
  • [14:01:45] <woglinde> lol
  • [14:01:54] <Crofton> was on vacation during the invote flood
  • [14:02:02] <mru> Crofton: gmail addr?
  • [14:02:22] <Crofton> ok
  • [14:02:30] <woglinde> crofton why you dont setup your own diaspora?
  • [14:02:36] <Crofton> I need to shut down and buy a power adapter
  • [14:03:02] <woglinde> till later
  • [14:03:16] <Crofton> sometimes I do not know where I am from
  • [14:03:34] <woglinde> alzheimer?
  • [14:03:54] <Crofton> no, just confusing heritage :)
  • [14:04:08] <Crofton> Some people call me "The British Redneck from West Virginia"
  • [14:04:11] <Crofton> off
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  • [14:07:37] <ynezz> is it a correct type for the expansion header? http://uk.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=67996-228HLFvirtualkey64910000virtualkey649-67996-228HLF
  • [14:08:36] <mru> looks about right
  • [14:08:54] <ynezz> ok, thanks
  • [14:09:09] <ynezz> looks like female is harder to find
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  • [14:19:37] <emeb_mac> twss
  • [14:19:50] <woglinde> emeb?
  • [14:21:11] <emeb_mac> yeah?
  • [14:21:18] <woglinde> twss?
  • [14:21:27] <emeb_mac> thats what she said
  • [14:21:56] <emeb_mac> ref ynezz ^^
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  • [14:22:14] <woglinde> yes
  • [14:22:50] <emeb_mac> too early for jokes...
  • [14:22:57] <ynezz> ah
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  • [14:24:38] <woglinde> crofton that was fast
  • [14:25:26] <Crofton> vending machine in lobby
  • [14:25:57] <emeb_mac> ynezz: try this: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=S7082-ND
  • [14:27:03] <emeb_mac> vending machines selling power adapters. how civilized
  • [14:27:19] <emeb_mac> almost as good as vending machine beer.
  • [14:31:55] <ynezz> emeb_mac: I would preffer to buy from one source to save on shipping...
  • [14:32:32] <emeb_mac> understood. I guess you want it on uk.mouser?
  • [14:33:25] <ynezz> yep, buying imx53-start from mouser already and there's free shipping for orders > 150EUR
  • [14:34:27] <emeb_mac> the key to searching for those is to look for 'receptacle'
  • [14:34:59] <ynezz> looks like I've found it http://cz.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=66953-014LFvirtualkey64910000virtualkey649-66953-014LF
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  • [15:44:36] <joelagnel> koen, hi
  • [15:44:52] <joelagnel> koen, I sent an email about possible next steps. check and let me know what's the right way to go. ty
  • [15:45:10] <joelagnel> in the context of the pulseaudio issue(s).
  • [15:47:56] * mru suggests deleting it
  • [15:47:59] <mru> or deleting lennart
  • [15:52:31] <Crofton> my mail folders are depressing
  • [15:52:39] <Crofton> I think I should go drink Guinness
  • [15:53:27] <woglinde> let the mailfolder drink guinness
  • [15:53:34] <woglinde> or better a kilkenny
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  • [16:01:35] <mru> Crofton: you didn't get any g+ mail from me?
  • [16:02:13] <Crofton> apparently not
  • [16:02:22] <mru> let me try again
  • [16:02:29] <Crofton> maybe they are blocking invites due to be being swamped?
  • [16:02:37] <Crofton> stupid google
  • [16:03:07] <mru> check again
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  • [17:43:49] <morb> anyone here familiar with the igepv2? trying to determine whether or not mine's bricked at the moment :/
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  • [17:57:44] <mru> it's quite similar to a beagle
  • [17:58:27] <mru> and like the beagle, rather hard to brick
  • [17:58:34] <mru> unless you apply 12V
  • [18:08:01] <morb> that is unfortunately what I did at one point, but it still fired up fine for a few days after
  • [18:08:13] <morb> now it's not outputting on serial or hdmi
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  • [18:08:39] <morb> and I am trying to manipulate things via u-boot for yucks
  • [18:08:54] <morb> right now I can get a usb link at least
  • [18:09:11] <morb> just don't know how toasted it is
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  • [18:10:13] <mru> about like this? http://hardwarebug.org/files/beagle_toaster.jpg
  • [18:10:34] <morb> lmao
  • [18:11:04] <mru> maybe you should get an overvoltage protector: http://hardwarebug.org/files/beagle_overvoltage.jpg
  • [18:11:19] <morb> http://www.embeddedarm.com/images/misc/netbsd-toaster.jpg
  • [18:11:35] <morb> yeah I was working on a power supply / vreg :(
  • [18:11:57] <mru> my solution is simpler and good up to 10kV
  • [18:11:58] <morb> may as well toss it
  • [18:14:10] <morb> but I see an 'omap3430' device accessible when I plug power in and have the otg plugged into a system
  • [18:14:25] <morb> eventually a usb network device
  • [18:14:35] <morb> makes me think there's promise
  • [18:15:17] <morb> I should be able to boot something via pusb no?
  • [18:15:38] <morb> idk if mmc stuff is working properly
  • [18:15:45] <morb> nor onboard nand
  • [18:19:22] <morb> 3 pusb
  • [18:19:24] <morb> This Application helps download a second file as response to ASIC ID over USB
  • [18:19:26] <morb> aww jeah
  • [18:19:59] <morb> we'll see in the next few days, gotta go pick up an arcade cabinet or two :)
  • [18:20:01] <morb> later
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  • [18:24:40] <morb> um, if it pops up a rndis capable interface, does that mean linux actually booted? it's not configured on the other end as far as I can tell, but I don't think u-boot serves an rndis interface
  • [18:26:54] <morb> yeah the rndis stuff in u-boot was added at a later point, no way what's on nand includes it
  • [18:27:11] <morb> hm. so there's life onboard.
  • [18:36:36] <joelagnel> Does u-boot have an effect on whether the User-button works in the kernel? Because User-button behaves different with different U-boot
  • [18:38:52] <morb> I believe u-boot would have bearing upon that side of things
  • [18:39:37] <adj> yes it can affect by defining MUX values differently
  • [18:40:08] <adj> but that would propably only enable or disable it
  • [18:40:31] <joelagnel> yeah, a different u-boot disables user-button
  • [18:41:12] <joelagnel> adj, morb thanks
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