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  • [02:58:37] <jaimef> what bus does the SD card connect to? usb?
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  • [03:16:43] <mdp> jaimef, the mmc interface
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  • [05:56:43] <emeb_mac> Quiet here...
  • [05:56:52] <emeb_mac> too quiet.
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  • [06:16:15] <aarti> I have 8 GB SD card, i have prepared to boot it on beagle board but in boot msgs i m getting these kind of errors: mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data, sector 1072434, nr 64, card status 0xc00
  • [06:16:16] <aarti> [ 13.747528] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 1072435
  • [06:16:16] <aarti> [ 13.753479] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p2, logical block 65778
  • [06:16:16] <aarti> [ 13.759948] lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0p2
  • [06:16:16] <aarti> [ 13.765411] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 1072442
  • [06:16:17] <aarti> [ 13.771362] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p2, logical block 65779
  • [06:16:20] <aarti> [ 13.777832] lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0p2
  • [06:16:38] <aarti> and i m not able to mount rootfs
  • [06:17:03] <aarti> how can i resolve it?
  • [06:17:29] <dm8tbr> try a different card? try a different kernel?
  • [06:19:06] <aarti> i have another card of 4 GB it is working fine
  • [06:19:53] <aarti> and i have analyzed tht more than 4 GB capacity of SD card giving me same problem
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  • [06:24:28] <dm8tbr> aarti: what OS are you trying even?
  • [06:25:00] <aarti> dm8tbr, linux from angstrom
  • [06:25:19] <dm8tbr> I don't see why 8gb vs 4gb should be a problem then
  • [06:25:39] <dm8tbr> it's rather your 8gb card that's broken or not behaving to spec
  • [06:27:06] <aarti> but i have tried with two different 8 GB card and both giving me same problem
  • [06:27:07] <av500> sd vs sdhc?
  • [06:30:29] <aarti> so is tht beagle board can work on SD only not with sdhc?
  • [06:32:33] <av500> no
  • [06:32:41] <av500> sdhc should be fine
  • [06:32:44] <av500> must be something else
  • [06:37:52] <aarti> i am testing on kingstone 8GB cards
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  • [06:56:05] <koen> mru: http://www.vesperix.com/arm/
  • [06:59:39] <av500> koen: it's a mega flop?
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  • [07:09:33] <hitlin37> bechmark looks similar as in gsoc fftw3 chart
  • [07:21:15] <koen> 4v
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  • [07:21:25] <koen> av500: dunno, Crofton|work forwarded the link to me
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  • [07:46:03] <nuxman> Hello all, can someone tell me the manufacturer of the camera connector P10 "F618-MG -D051-XX-CF358" mounted on BeagleBoard-xM? Google search did not return useful results.
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  • [07:51:04] <av500> nuxman: ask on the mailing list
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  • [07:54:02] <nuxman> av500: Thanks, --> go to mailing list ;-)
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  • [08:05:07] <av500> koen: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B8mDVaDECtBXMWM0MTA0MGMtMTM3OC00ZGU1LThiOGMtYjc2YTg3NGNmOGQw&hl=en&pli=1
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  • [08:34:44] <tasslehoff> koen: fyi: the bug from yesterday is not in .39. the macro-magic lt/gt/eq functions are gone.
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  • [08:44:32] <koen> av500: you sent me the codes!
  • [08:47:37] <av500> koen: it seems that is how indian CS education works
  • [08:47:55] <av500> copy the program from the teachers and reproduce inexam
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  • [08:58:58] <koen> Subject: Small devices ruin lives.
  • [08:59:01] <koen> spam is funny
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  • [10:30:48] <mru> koen: meh, no web-browsable source
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  • [10:40:10] <av500> mru: old school
  • [10:40:30] <av500> maybe they can mail you change files
  • [10:45:44] <garagoth> Hi. I have narcissius Angstrom build and I use serial console. The problem is that is console is inactive for a minute or two, bogus characters appear as soon as I type something.
  • [10:46:03] <garagoth> And as long as I am typing, all is fine.
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  • [10:46:32] <av500> garagoth: thats due to CPU_IDLE
  • [10:46:45] <av500> it tends to frak up the uart
  • [10:46:57] <av500> if you dont need it, disable it in the kernel config
  • [10:47:03] <av500> or keep typing
  • [10:47:05] <av500> .
  • [10:47:07] <av500> .
  • [10:47:10] <av500> .
  • [10:47:12] <av500> :)
  • [10:47:19] <garagoth> :-)
  • [10:47:35] <garagoth> So I need to recompile kernel, right?
  • [10:47:50] <av500> for that, yes
  • [10:48:06] <garagoth> ok, thanks.
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  • [11:18:43] <JLaurin> Anybody who knows what the source is for capturing sound from a microphone in GStreamer?
  • [11:18:53] <JLaurin> alsasrc?
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  • [11:19:27] <NotTooDumb3> yes?
  • [11:22:31] <JLaurin> I've tried it, in my opinion it should work but it doesn't.. Anything wrong with: gst-launch alsasrc ! audioconvert ! alsasink ?
  • [11:23:54] <NotTooDumb3> if alsasrc is not working just try once with audiotestsrc
  • [11:24:34] <NotTooDumb3> also try with gst-launch alsasrc ! queue ! audioconvert ! alsasink sometimes it works with queue i do not know why
  • [11:26:33] <NotTooDumb3> gst-launch alsasrc device=hw:1 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! alsasink
  • [11:27:02] <JLaurin> the audiotestsrc gives me a sinewave sound
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  • [11:27:36] <JLaurin> the second one gives me a very lagging sound, somethings coming out but i cannot hear what it is
  • [11:27:42] <JLaurin> i'll try the third one
  • [11:28:04] <NotTooDumb3> yes audiotestsrc is a sine test wave i believe
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  • [11:29:22] <av500> not a cosine?
  • [11:29:27] <JLaurin> hw:1 no such file or directory... At the current I'm trying on my hpst computer.. not on the BB
  • [11:29:39] <JLaurin> host
  • [11:29:58] <NotTooDumb3> av500, i dont know but i think i read that like a test sine wave..
  • [11:30:20] <NotTooDumb3> try with hw:0
  • [11:31:25] <JLaurin> It gave me a very short sample of audio before it got silent... still it says that it is playing though
  • [11:31:59] <koen> DJWillis: ping
  • [11:32:22] <NotTooDumb3> i think your audio input device is at hw:0, that is the reason why you are hearing some sound, but why it's going to silent after a while we need to check
  • [11:35:03] <JLaurin> yes seems like it... If i interrupt and execute the command as quick as i can.. I can hear what song it is... So the hw:0 seems correct
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  • [11:35:36] <JLaurin> But why it just plays such a short sequence. I've got no idea of
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  • [11:36:06] <NotTooDumb3> if it's not, you will get an error as no such device like you got for hw:1, try giving num-buffers=10000 after alsasrc, check if you can hear for longer
  • [11:38:26] <JLaurin> No change
  • [11:38:49] <NotTooDumb3> are you speaking something in mike and testing?
  • [11:39:11] <JLaurin> I'm currently streaming with an MP3 Player
  • [11:39:50] <NotTooDumb3> i have no idea why it's stopping, there are too many examples online, try with different possible options and try..streaming with mp3 player?can you paste your whole pipeline?
  • [11:40:01] <NotTooDumb3> which mp3 player?
  • [11:41:20] <JLaurin> Agreed, I've tried to find some relevant info too, but there's too much
  • [11:41:42] <JLaurin> Sure, i'll fix it :) I'm streaming with my phone; Sony Ericsson X10 Mini
  • [11:41:57] <NotTooDumb3> what's the pipeline you are using?
  • [11:43:11] <JLaurin> http://pastebin.com/KKvvm6SZ
  • [11:43:23] <NotTooDumb3> ok got to leave..bye
  • [11:44:13] <JLaurin> thanks for the feedback.. cu
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  • [11:48:39] <JLaurin> Hi, Im trying to capture streaming music from my mobilephone connected to the line-in of my computer, and directly playing it. This is the command i use http://pastebin.com/KKvvm6SZ
  • [11:48:53] <JLaurin> The sound only plays for a short time, and then stops... what could be wrong?
  • [11:49:14] <JLaurin> sorry.. wrong channel
  • [11:50:07] <garagoth> Hm, I guess that for easycap module (for usb video grabber) I need to re-compile kernel too?
  • [11:50:26] <av500> angstrom?
  • [11:50:30] <garagoth> yes
  • [11:51:40] <garagoth> I have a VideoDVR USB grabber... ir is seen as USB 2.0 Video Capture Controller, Manufacturer: Syntek Semiconductor
  • [11:52:02] <garagoth> on ubuntu it works wirh easycap module. Maybe Angstrom has something different for it?
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  • [12:07:45] <chase> yes?
  • [12:08:52] <chase> koen
  • [12:10:09] * av500 watches koen chase chase and chase chase koen
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  • [12:15:15] <koen> chase: beagle sdk call
  • [12:15:21] <koen> chase: 4738....
  • [12:15:39] <koen> sakoman: I think we found the ecc problem with nand in .37+
  • [12:15:40] <koen> sakoman: board_nand_data.ecc_opt = OMAP_ECC_HAMMING_CODE_DEFAULT;
  • [12:15:55] <koen> sakoman: so that's hwecc by default
  • [12:16:09] <koen> sakoman: arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-flash.c
  • [12:17:00] <chase> koen: right. be right there
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  • [12:48:29] <speakman> U-boot can be silenced by #define CONFIG_SILENT_CONSOLE - but how does one silent X-loader?
  • [12:49:16] <av500> prolly the same way
  • [12:49:24] <av500> since xloader is a stripped down uboot
  • [12:49:32] <speakman> oh?
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  • [12:49:51] <speakman> is x-loader even neccessarily?
  • [12:50:20] <DJWillis> koen: pong!
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  • [12:50:36] <mdp> on parts where you need to fit in a very small sram, sure
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  • [12:53:07] <koen> DJWillis: I spotted a licensing booboo in meta-pandora
  • [12:53:29] <sakoman> koen: ??
  • [12:53:37] <koen> DJWillis: it looks someone copied angstrom-uboot-scripts and then silently relicensed it from MIT to GPL
  • [12:53:48] <sakoman> koen: http://pastebin.com/nJUiZ2Wi
  • [12:54:02] <DJWillis> koen: ahhh, okies, what? I'll fix, still sorting that out (and pulling in bits).
  • [12:54:50] <DJWillis> koen: https://github.com/openpandora/meta-openpandora/commit/f6cb4fbce791e5d69412796657db67a00365774f << I picked that up (and had a WTF moment).
  • [12:54:53] <koen> sakoman: heh, that'll teach me to trust what kernel people tell me
  • [12:55:26] <koen> DJWillis: ah, I didn't scroll up enough, sorry :)
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  • [12:58:12] <DJWillis> koen: hardly :), twas a good spot, that is an old hack as I used to package just the scripts that work on the OpenPandora, there will be a fair bit of stuff flowing in but at least things like the systemd image are working :).
  • [12:58:56] <koen> DJWillis: are you liking the boot time improvement?
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  • [12:59:15] <DJWillis> koen: a few things I need to work out but very much so :)
  • [12:59:44] <koen> DJWillis: https://github.com/falconindy/systemd-arch-units/tree/master/service <- has a unit for slim
  • [13:02:40] <DJWillis> koen: missed that, thanks, well it will be a while before I am worry about that but good to know.
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  • [13:03:47] <DJWillis> koen: is Angstrom settled on systemd going forward?
  • [13:05:03] <koen> DJWillis: not officially, but it's looking that way
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  • [13:05:47] <DJWillis> koen: good to know.
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  • [13:40:50] <sakoman> koen: btw, ubifs seems to work OK with 2.6.39 -- even with bad blocks in the rootfs. ubifs notes them and marks them as bad and no further complaints
  • [13:41:12] <koen> ah, good
  • [13:41:20] <sakoman> koen: jffs2 however dies a horrid death when there are bad blocks in the rootfs error
  • [13:42:04] <sakoman> koen: I need to do an article on the ubifs process, because it does matter how you create and write the image
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  • [13:42:50] <sakoman> btw, above "rootfs error" should be "rootfs area" :-)
  • [13:42:56] <sakoman> time for more coffee!
  • [13:44:04] <koen> sakoman: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/creating-and-mounting-a-ubifs-volume :)
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  • [14:08:51] <koen> jkridner|work1, joelagnel: I have booted 2.6.39 with rootfs on ubi on a c5 :)
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  • [14:15:00] <sakoman> koen: did the C4 have bad blocks in the rootfs area? that is the real test :-)
  • [14:15:09] <sakoman> err . . . C5
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  • [14:15:23] <sakoman> now I really need to go get that coffee!
  • [14:16:03] <koen> sakoman: I hope not, it's fresh nand :)
  • [14:16:16] <koen> but it being 512MB of nand, it must bad blocks
  • [14:16:57] <sakoman> I finally managed to get a few systems with bad blocks in the rootfs area
  • [14:17:03] <sakoman> perfect for testing
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  • [14:17:49] <sakoman> use u-boot "nand bad" command to see if you have bad blocks
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  • [14:18:41] <sakoman> grrr . . . my xM db9 connector failed :-(
  • [14:18:58] <sakoman> I have the worst luck with the connector used on xM and Panda
  • [14:19:20] <emeb> how do they fail?
  • [14:19:23] <sakoman> surface mount db9 = suckage
  • [14:19:30] <emeb> peel off?
  • [14:19:35] <sakoman> they always seem to peel off, yes
  • [14:19:47] <emeb> not designed for the mechanical load
  • [14:19:58] <koen> Device 0 bad blocks:
  • [14:20:14] <sakoman> emeb: right
  • [14:20:18] <emeb> One of my engineering mentors had a saying "Solder has the mechanical properties of peanut butter"
  • [14:20:32] <sakoman> I much prefer the Overo integrated USB/serial approach
  • [14:21:25] <sakoman> emeb: correct, right along with the other often violated "never rely on electrical connectors for mechanical integrity"
  • [14:22:17] <sakoman> OK, time for coffee. back later!
  • [14:28:59] * djlewis is waiting to see if the outdoor weather sensor is back online.
  • [14:29:29] <av500> djlewis: why dont you crawl out of the fallout shelter and see for yourself?
  • [14:29:52] * djlewis gets out from under the house :)
  • [14:31:26] <emeb> djlewis: Check this out - http://bit.ly/imsX5i
  • [14:31:53] <emeb> my pennance for the sin of not paying attention while designing a board...
  • [14:32:02] <djlewis> dont ya hate it when its not right the first time ;)
  • [14:32:31] <djlewis> is that wirewrap?
  • [14:32:53] <emeb> it's 30ga kynar wire wrap wire. I use it for lots of small stuff.
  • [14:32:53] <speakman> Could one get rid of x-loader and just use u-boot? what's the inital reason of x-loader really?
  • [14:33:10] <djlewis> those components make it look like 18ga
  • [14:33:43] <emeb> yeah - that little one in the middle is a single 2-input mux in a 6-pin pkg
  • [14:35:08] <av500> speakman: yes
  • [14:35:34] * av500 gives emeb a right angle
  • [14:38:15] <emeb> av500: no such thing when doing haywires
  • [14:38:39] <emeb> besides - I like the 'organic' look. :)
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  • [14:41:14] <av500> emeb: but I use write wrap wire for reworks too
  • [14:41:31] <emeb> and right angles?
  • [14:41:38] <av500> :)
  • [14:41:42] <av500> ran out of them
  • [14:42:17] <djlewis> nope, sensor is offline
  • [14:42:28] <emeb> me too. or time - I could put in sharp bends if I wanted to spend 2x longer.
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  • [14:46:11] <speakman> av500: but x-loader includes some configuration which is missing in U-boot?
  • [14:54:42] <av500> yes
  • [14:55:07] <av500> speakman: uboot is to large to fit into SRAM
  • [14:55:16] <av500> so xloader was created
  • [14:55:22] <av500> that sets up DRAM and loads uboot
  • [14:55:31] <av500> you could also load uboot directly into SDRAM
  • [14:55:44] <av500> but that needs "configuration headers"
  • [14:55:51] <av500> and only works in "raw" boot mode
  • [14:56:03] <av500> http://nishanthmenon.blogspot.com/2009/05/configuration-header-no-more-x-loader.html
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  • [14:57:10] <joelagnel> morning!
  • [14:57:28] <av500> gm
  • [14:57:41] <speakman> av500: thanks alot for the explaination. I also found that blog post, but since I do not know the hardware at that level (it's _almost_ an beagleboard) I think it's too hard to do by myself.
  • [14:57:58] <speakman> I'd just try make X-loader quiet :)
  • [14:58:22] <koen> you can also load the kernel directly into sdram with CH
  • [14:58:33] <av500> speakman: xloader quiet was just mentioned today on the ML
  • [15:00:25] <jkridner|work1> koen: did you use joelagnel's image to program the UBIFS?
  • [15:00:28] <av500> koen: in fact you can load "data" into SDRAM with CD
  • [15:00:28] <mdp> speakman, on other parts a fully configured u-boot can fit in sram since they bumped up the sram size
  • [15:00:32] <av500> CH
  • [15:00:44] <koen> jkridner|work1: no, I just untarred it in to the mountpoint
  • [15:00:50] <speakman> av500: I have to join the ml.. :D
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  • [15:00:59] <av500> speakman: no need, its public
  • [15:01:13] <av500> you can also use the "great" web interface
  • [15:01:16] <koen> jkridner|work1: it was an oe-core image, faster to untar than to learn something new :)
  • [15:01:37] <speakman> :D
  • [15:02:29] <speakman> av500: google groups?
  • [15:02:34] <av500> yes
  • [15:02:39] <speakman> ok, I'm there
  • [15:02:47] <speakman> forgot to write a message though :p
  • [15:02:47] * av500 waves
  • [15:02:50] <speakman> :D
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  • [15:05:10] <joelagnel> av500, the config header stuff you mentioned is quite interesting. Do you see any drawbacks with this method though? Also considering there are a lot of "if <this board> then regx = y" code in x-load, will this method work correctly?
  • [15:05:58] <av500> joelagnel: read the last 2ys irc backlog :)
  • [15:06:02] <av500> this was discusses a lot
  • [15:06:12] <av500> the drawback is that you need a bootcode per board
  • [15:06:18] <av500> or per memory
  • [15:06:19] <av500> etc
  • [15:06:26] <av500> unless you can read the config from GPIOs
  • [15:07:29] <joelagnel> right, makes sense, thanks
  • [15:07:50] <av500> joelagnel: so one single sdcard image cannot boot all boards
  • [15:08:01] <av500> and that was deemed not idiot proof enough
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  • [15:10:35] <joelagnel> I guess with config header, we can get ride of need for MLO , and then have u-boot init the board specific stuff
  • [15:10:41] <joelagnel> that seems cleaner, I guess the drawback with that would be the longer compile time for x-load related dev
  • [15:10:47] <av500> ???
  • [15:10:51] <joelagnel> s/ride/rid/
  • [15:10:54] <av500> how long can it take to compile uboot?
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  • [15:11:28] <joelagnel> yeah maybe not that much
  • [15:12:11] <koen> devicetree ftw
  • [15:14:14] <djlewis> yay!, weather sensor is back on line.
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  • [15:16:04] <speakman> sorry for this basic question, but is X-loader very specific to it's hardware? or is most settings done in u-boot?
  • [15:16:31] <speakman> I'm thinking of just trying to replace my x-loader with the original unmodified version from source
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  • [15:24:52] <speakman> which "board" in x-loader is used for beagle?
  • [15:25:21] <speakman> oh, omap3530beagle
  • [15:25:36] <av500> yes, xloader is hw specific
  • [15:25:41] <av500> it must know what sdram to setup
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  • [15:26:29] <speakman> is omap3evm == am3517evm ?
  • [15:27:05] <koen> no
  • [15:27:29] <speakman> oh
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  • [15:42:55] <speakman> any idea which config is used for am3517?
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  • [15:59:03] <nIblic> I have an LI-V365 video input board connected to the beagle-xm revC camera connector. The board has a tvp5146 chip. Is this supported? I enabled the tvp514x module in my kernel build, but it appears the device is never found in the i2c bus.
  • [15:59:12] <nIblic> I built everything using Angstrom / OE
  • [16:00:21] <garagoth> nIblic: It is not pin-compatibile
  • [16:00:29] <av500> garagoth: indeed :)
  • [16:00:34] <garagoth> 12 signals are in different place
  • [16:00:49] <garagoth> I almost finished converter
  • [16:01:07] <garagoth> basically, you need to disconnect 8 signals and re-route 12 other
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  • [16:01:36] <garagoth> and then it *should* work
  • [16:02:05] <nIblic> ouch, When will this converter be available, or do I need to build my own?
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  • [16:03:08] <garagoth> you need to build it I'm afraid... I can provide you with a schematic, but cannot guarantee that it is correct or if it will work. I had no time to build it (mainly due to lack of connectors, stupid small raster).
  • [16:03:16] <garagoth> So I made no tests yet.
  • [16:04:13] <nIblic> thanks, that would be helpful
  • [16:05:42] <garagoth> Just a moment then, I need to host it somewhere ;-)
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  • [16:14:59] <garagoth> nIblic: Is Eagle format fine, or you would like a .png ?
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  • [16:15:54] <nIblic> .png would be better, if it's not a problem
  • [16:18:31] <garagoth> http://nevander.eu.org/LI_V365-Beagle.png
  • [16:19:05] <nIblic> garagoth: thanks
  • [16:19:36] * av500 tries not to stare too long at that :)
  • [16:19:38] <garagoth> And no promises. It can cause your Beagle to catch fire, your camera to smoke, or similar.
  • [16:20:16] <nIblic> garagoth: understood, if I build it, will report back the results
  • [16:20:24] <garagoth> Would be very nice.
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  • [16:51:14] <Crofton> anyone now much about the beagletouch here
  • [16:51:40] <ds2> what do you want to know about it?
  • [16:51:46] <ds2> it is a tall stack
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  • [16:55:41] <Crofton> apparently they have an xm with the header on the wrong side
  • [16:57:26] <ds2> wrong side as in top or ?
  • [16:57:49] <ds2> IMO, the headers for ALL the xM's are on the wrong side...makes for huge stacks
  • [17:00:34] <Crofton> not sure, getting this via email
  • [17:00:54] <Crofton> I was hoping someone here would know what I am talking about
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  • [17:10:14] <koen> Crofton: they use a c4 with the header on the wrong side
  • [17:10:29] <Crofton> does the c4 come with headers installed?
  • [17:10:31] <koen> Crofton: for xm with prepopulated headers that is a problem
  • [17:10:33] <koen> Crofton: no
  • [17:10:38] <koen> neither does c5
  • [17:10:46] <koen> I tried talking gerald into it, though
  • [17:10:47] <Crofton> hmmm
  • [17:10:54] <Crofton> I wonder who installed these headers
  • [17:11:02] <koen> liquidware
  • [17:11:24] <koen> they did that on my beagle, but you can get it as a kit and do it yoursel
  • [17:11:25] <koen> f
  • [17:13:05] <Crofton> I wonder if they just put them on the wrong side this time?
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  • [17:20:15] <koen> Crofton: the design of the lcd pcb requires them being "wrong" on xm
  • [17:21:23] <ds2> ah, I see they are using the same connector arrangement as me
  • [17:22:53] <ds2> the choice on the C4 is do it like the xM and wind up with a super thick stack or do it like me and wind up with a thin pile... but they choose a third option - make it thick and do it like me
  • [17:23:28] <ds2> it will be a pain to rework that board to physically fit the xM but it can be done
  • [17:25:12] <speakman> What's the official repository for x-loader? Seems like the one I've got from our vendor looks quite different than the repo I found at http://gitorious.org/x-load-omap3
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  • [17:35:04] <koen> speakman: http://gitorious.org/x-loader
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  • [17:36:55] <mdp> if only x-loader could afford its own domain it might gain some respect in this world
  • [17:37:10] <speakman> mdp: :D
  • [17:37:11] <speakman> koen: thanks
  • [17:39:04] <mranostay> mdp: can we raise $9.99? :P
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  • [17:39:53] <mdp> I think there's more worthy causes
  • [17:40:15] <mdp> the syslink folks maybe :P
  • [17:40:44] <speakman> there's no support for am3517evm in that repo?
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  • [17:41:56] <mdp> speakman, am3517evm is pretty much unmaintained in all upstream repos
  • [17:42:02] <speakman> :(
  • [17:42:10] <speakman> My board is based upon am3517evm iirc
  • [17:42:17] <mdp> yeah, tell me about it???on my TODO list
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  • [17:43:08] <koen> mdp: unmaintained implies that there is something to start with
  • [17:43:10] <mdp> u-boot and kernel mainline for it are bad
  • [17:43:20] <mdp> koen, :(
  • [17:44:28] <mdp> there's a very clear reason why this is, of course.
  • [17:45:59] <koen> the SoC is so awesome all developers cower in fear of it?
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  • [17:49:58] <koen> sakoman: RP and I may have fixed the bitbake issue you were seeing
  • [17:50:10] <koen> sakoman: so './oebb.sh update' :)
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  • [18:01:14] <_av500_> cvs up
  • [18:03:14] <speakman> Where can one find "signGP" source?
  • [18:03:17] <speakman> is it even a project?
  • [18:03:33] <speakman> it's distributed as 32bit binary from my vendor - gaah
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  • [18:07:22] <koen> speakman: it's part of http://gitorious.org/x-loader
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  • [18:08:52] <Ceriand|work> speakman: http://gitorious.org/x-loader/x-loader/blobs/master/scripts/signGP.c specifically
  • [18:10:07] <Ceriand|work> speakman: https://github.com/nmenon/omap-u-boot-utils/ also has a different version
  • [18:11:09] <djlewis> ugh, a ubuntu beginner cals our office and they hand the call to me.
  • [18:11:41] <djlewis> after 5 minutes i told the caller to give me his credit card number for continued assistance :)
  • [18:11:53] <woglinde> djlewis haha
  • [18:11:53] <koen> and cvc code?
  • [18:12:00] <djlewis> of course he declined :)
  • [18:12:19] <woglinde> why they handed the call to you?
  • [18:12:21] <djlewis> koen: true
  • [18:12:30] <woglinde> your are not in india
  • [18:12:33] <djlewis> I am the only linux person on staff
  • [18:13:07] <djlewis> there is a slight chance we might actually get a paying customer so we pay attention
  • [18:13:43] <woglinde> uhm haha
  • [18:14:13] * koen calls djlewis asking him for the exact steps to get sent the codes
  • [18:20:12] <mdp> what number do we call to get the am3517evm codes?
  • [18:21:13] * koen reads http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Syslink_3
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  • [18:26:20] <mdp> koen, all the answers are there
  • [18:26:22] <speakman> Ceriand|work: does it matter which one I use?
  • [18:27:00] <speakman> koen: I've only got a source tarball which I've no idea where it comes from.
  • [18:27:02] <mdp> koen, guaranteed to work if you are building a tablet or handset :)
  • [18:27:35] <speakman> koen: it contains support for my special board, which is why I have to use it.
  • [18:29:40] <woglinde> koen and whats the state now?
  • [18:29:48] <woglinde> last modified jan2011
  • [18:30:14] <woglinde> hm ah git repos
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  • [18:51:44] <Ceriand|work> speakman: the one in x-loader is a simplified version that has all the values hardcoded; the other one lets you fill in your own values without recompiling
  • [18:52:45] <speakman> Ceriand|work: ok, this isn't easy... All I've got is one precompiled binary, and I've no idea what values are compiled in.
  • [18:53:39] <Ceriand|work> speakman: if you have a MLO that you've generated with your binary, you can open it up in a hex editor and use the TRM to decipher what values you should use
  • [18:54:17] <_av500_> its not rocket surgery
  • [18:54:42] <Ceriand|work> it's probably just a null CH to let it boot via memory boot
  • [18:55:03] <Ceriand|work> most versions of x-load do the mem init themselves
  • [18:55:58] <_av500_> yes
  • [18:57:05] <speakman> Ceriand|work: MLO? TRM?
  • [18:57:36] <Ceriand|work> TRM := Technical Reference Manual (on TI's website)
  • [18:58:07] <Ceriand|work> MLO := is the boot filename you would use for an SD boot
  • [18:59:06] <speakman> oh
  • [19:10:32] <sakoman> koen: thanks! that did indeed fix the bitbake issue
  • [19:11:02] <sakoman> so I can confirm fresh checkouts of oe-core work again
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  • [19:36:28] <djlewis> emeb: when you get a chance to examine the stm32vls pinmap archeture, I look forward to having strangeness explained to me.
  • [19:36:29] <djlewis> :)
  • [19:36:51] <emeb> djlewis: I'll take a look. What's the specific question?
  • [19:38:16] <djlewis> in discovery.h pins are defined. No relation to actual board though.
  • [19:38:51] <emeb> is that in the leaf labs stuff?
  • [19:39:14] <djlewis> Also the documentation picts and actual bd have P2 and the long column on rithg with P3 close to you.
  • [19:39:39] <djlewis> Documentation pinmaps are calling P2, P# and the numbering is reverse
  • [19:39:47] <djlewis> P2, P3
  • [19:40:00] <djlewis> yes, the anton version
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  • [19:41:38] <djlewis> clarify, in Pinmap docs, Actual P2 is called P3 and pin one starts at the USB end rather than the P3 end
  • [19:41:52] <djlewis> make sense?
  • [19:41:58] <emeb> grabbing anton19286 now...
  • [19:42:32] <djlewis> no rush, I have just been wasteing hours trying to wrap my mind around it.
  • [19:43:01] <emeb> np - you've got me curious...
  • [19:45:17] <djlewis> ei; blue LED bottom right connects to chip pin 38, PC8 but iirc, pinmap in discovery.h has it as pin 37, of proc, i assume.
  • [19:45:48] <garagoth> koen: ping
  • [19:48:46] <djlewis> subtract i assume.
  • [19:49:03] <emeb> heh - 0-base vs 1-base
  • [19:49:24] <djlewis> start at zero?
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  • [19:49:33] <emeb> that's what it looks like.
  • [19:49:40] <emeb> he's using an enum to define the pins
  • [19:49:46] <emeb> and enums are 0-base
  • [19:49:52] <djlewis> makes sense for definitions
  • [19:50:18] <djlewis> just not logically in my brain :(
  • [19:50:30] <emeb> yep - non-intuitive.
  • [19:50:43] <emeb> should have at least mentioned that in the comments
  • [19:51:33] <djlewis> I suppose aI can redo the stm document and fix their mistake there.
  • [19:51:36] <speakman> is it x-load.bin.ift to be flashed in?
  • [19:51:42] <speakman> Ceriand|work: ^
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  • [19:52:11] <speakman> _av500_: ^ :)
  • [19:52:14] <Ceriand|work> speakman: what do you mean by flashed-in?
  • [19:52:45] <djlewis> emeb: table 5 and 6 under Extension connectors vs actual board layout.
  • [19:52:57] <speakman> Ceriand|work: to replace the old x-loader in nand
  • [19:53:15] <emeb> djlewis: which doc?
  • [19:53:20] <Ceriand|work> speakman: yes
  • [19:53:26] <speakman> Ceriand|work: ok, thanks :)
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  • [19:56:59] <djlewis> emeb: UM0919 User Manual from here: http://www.st.com/internet/evalboard/product/250863.jsp
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  • [19:58:08] <emeb> djlewis: got it.
  • [19:58:26] <emeb> that table must be the pins on the board.
  • [19:58:38] <emeb> but pins listed in discovery.h are pins on the CPU - 1
  • [19:58:57] <djlewis> emeb: page 5 top layout shows the actual board as it is labeled and is correct.
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  • [19:59:23] <djlewis> emeb: tables on 14 and 15 are wrong to board
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  • [20:00:30] <djlewis> emeb: iirc, the pin mapping in discovery.h is made compatible to the maple board
  • [20:00:38] <emeb> djlewis: good docs guys
  • [20:01:04] <djlewis> YESPEOPLE! ;) this relates to beagle board ias it is a BB related project I am doing with it :)
  • [20:01:11] <emeb> djlewis: obviously - that's why they call it discovery, not maple. ??!???
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  • [20:02:41] <djlewis> emeb: well I think there are several sections in the pin mapping I cant relate to "my" real world.
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  • [20:03:12] <emeb> djlewis: just toggle bits until it makes sense. :)
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  • [20:03:46] * djlewis see's many more wasted hours ahead :P
  • [20:04:03] <djlewis> but bit banging just might work :)
  • [20:05:21] <djlewis> emeb: well, at least you are now warned too :)
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  • [20:05:54] <emeb> djlewis: indeed. Thanks.
  • [20:06:44] <sakoman> djlewis: just use a Pinto for your project ;-)
  • [20:07:05] <sakoman> that way you won't have to learn anything new!
  • [20:07:34] * _av500_ downs a pint'o
  • [20:07:57] <sakoman> _av500_: hey, good idea! just a bit early in the day though
  • [20:08:00] <arc_mat_> skol
  • [20:08:34] <arc_mat_> white wine with the fish
  • [20:08:47] <_av500_> bleh
  • [20:08:55] <djlewis> red wine with the steak
  • [20:09:00] * _av500_ cannot do tax returns when sober
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  • [20:09:15] * djlewis can't do tax returns
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  • [20:09:40] <djlewis> long gone are the days of a simple 1 page EZ form...
  • [20:09:44] * joelagnel has no tax to be returned
  • [20:10:42] <djlewis> sakoman: good idea though bout the pinto. at least I could find the spark plugs to change them :)
  • [20:11:07] <sakoman> :-)
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  • [20:14:14] <sakoman> djlewis: I've been known to use an Oveo/Pinto for one off bit banging devices, even though it is way overkill. I figure the value of my time swamps the difference in cost for a simple/cheap micro like you are using
  • [20:16:37] <djlewis> sakoman: i'm a very stubborn guy that wastes much time trying to solve the why.
  • [20:16:46] <djlewis> Nobody pays me for my time anyway :(
  • [20:17:07] <sakoman> you keep forget to ask for their credit card numbers!
  • [20:17:11] <djlewis> and I have the boards at my disposal :)
  • [20:17:13] <koen> they just send you pizza?
  • [20:17:22] <djlewis> Yes
  • [20:17:35] <djlewis> keep me in the dark and feed me mushrooms
  • [20:17:46] <sakoman> mmmm . . . mushrooms!
  • [20:18:33] <_av500_> magic!
  • [20:20:23] <plasmab> magic mushrooms?
  • [20:20:58] <arc_mat_> _av500_: do we have a free couch in the office?
  • [20:21:12] <woglinde> *g*
  • [20:21:16] <arc_mat_> _av500_: djlewis seems to be cheap to hold, just pizza and mushrooms
  • [20:21:42] <_av500_> yes, thouht about that
  • [20:21:44] <_av500_> +g
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  • [20:22:14] <arc_mat_> with the d??neria around the corner it's going to be easy ;)
  • [20:22:54] <woglinde> arc_mat haha
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  • [20:27:09] <_av500_> arc_mat_: but he comes with a nuclear powered outhouse - that is not PC any more here...
  • [20:28:51] <djlewis> and the nuclear powered outhouse's weather sensor is working again :)
  • [20:29:38] <_av500_> so you get alerted when the core melts..
  • [20:39:18] <arc_mat_> nuclear powered a la "mr fusion"?
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  • [20:43:45] <Crofton> regarding my beagletouch question:
  • [20:43:47] <Crofton> Hmm... sounds like the first activity for the summer program will be soldering lessons for the students...
  • [20:44:42] <djlewis> with tiny little soldering irons
  • [20:46:52] <Crofton> I think I should point out this is sort of tricky as a first task
  • [20:51:24] <housel> What's the most convenient way to build (for xM rev C) a kernel (and x-loader and uboot) for that support the Aptina MT9P031? I have a recent oe 2011.03-maintenance checkout but it doesn't seem to have made it's way into that yet
  • [20:51:53] <_av500_> arc_mat_: sakoman > you keep forget to ask for their credit card numbers!
  • [20:51:59] <_av500_> oops
  • [20:53:13] <_av500_>
  • [20:53:16] <_av500_> damn
  • [20:53:39] <_av500_> arc_mat_: finally: http://users.tcworks.net/~djlewis/domeup.jpg
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  • [20:56:40] <arc_mat_> _av500_: what's that?
  • [20:57:12] <djlewis> me and my nuclear outhouse
  • [20:57:35] <arc_mat_> oh oh :)
  • [20:58:58] <_av500_> overpaying taxes has a good side i realize
  • [20:59:07] <_av500_> you dont spend the money
  • [20:59:40] <arc_mat_> and the state pays you interest
  • [20:59:47] <_av500_> no
  • [20:59:53] <_av500_> not for last year
  • [21:00:51] <djlewis> feds payed me $4.79 interest last week :)
  • [21:01:11] <_av500_> wow
  • [21:01:20] <_av500_> you bought a pizza?
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  • [21:07:50] <djlewis> oh good, the temp has dropped down to 99.5f
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  • [21:22:23] <arc_mat_> 99.5f is not a lot for a pizza
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  • [21:30:52] <speakman> trying to silent u-boot but to no success. I've done anything in README.silent but still verbose at boot...
  • [21:31:21] <_av500_> speakman: put a return; into the printf function
  • [21:31:44] <_av500_> and btw, what do you expect from being speakman
  • [21:34:09] <speakman> :p
  • [21:34:45] <speakman> _av500_: I'd prefer to still be able to interrupt the bootloader with the "any" key though ;)
  • [21:34:49] <joelagnel> hehe
  • [21:35:01] <_av500_> speakman: and?
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  • [21:35:13] <_av500_> you want to still print "any"
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  • [21:39:36] <speakman> _av500_: hm? not following you. But as it's described in the README.silence it should be possible to make it totally quiet unless a key has been pressed. Right?
  • [21:40:08] <_av500_> speakman: i dunno, i never spent much time with uboot
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  • [21:43:12] <speakman> _av500_: ok
  • [21:43:38] <speakman> https://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=silent_booting
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  • [21:57:34] <jack__> hi, I know this isnt the right place but there is anyone here with and IGEPV2 (beagleboard) clone?
  • [21:58:33] <jack__> i am having a bit of trouble installing the kernel and if someone could give me an hint would be great
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  • [22:03:31] <jack__> compiling kernel for beagleboard is anything similar to this http://labs.igep.es/index.php/The_Linux_kernel ?
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  • [22:07:33] <joelagnel> jack__, you could describe the trouble you're having
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  • [22:09:55] <jack__> when i write the comand wich suposely installs the kernel " make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH= /home/jdoe/nfs/poky/poky-image-sato/igep0020" it writes a bunch of installing lines but in the end i get this message " make: Nothing to be done for `/home/jdoe/nfs/poky/poky-image-sato/igep0020' "
  • [22:10:28] <jack__> and if i write uname -a the kernell number isnt the newest
  • [22:10:50] <jack__> so i assume it didnt install
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  • [22:27:44] <jack__> joelagnel, does this say something to you?
  • [22:28:33] <joelagnel> jack__, looks like your build didn't complete to begin with
  • [22:29:55] <joelagnel> look at your Makefiles and figure out what's going on
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  • [22:31:24] <joelagnel> so here is the first cut of the beagle FAQ reorganized: http://www.openbeagle.org:8081/support/faq
  • [22:31:44] <joelagnel> Compared to the current http://www.beagleboard.org/support/faq
  • [22:32:05] <joelagnel> Any suggestions? :)
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  • [22:33:11] <zumbi> jack__: don't you need to call modules target first?
  • [22:33:43] <zumbi> jack__: there is a small-ish channel for #igep
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  • [22:36:53] <joelagnel> It would nice if anyone could change the topic of this channel to point http://beagleboard.org/support/faq before asking questions? (Unrelated to the previous question asked)
  • [22:37:21] <joelagnel> jkridner, ?
  • [22:40:13] <zumbi> joelagnel: have you tried to se a topic?
  • [22:40:19] <zumbi> s,se,set
  • [22:41:01] <joelagnel> uhm , well no I haven't :) I am new around here so I thought I wouldn't have rights
  • [22:42:48] <joelagnel> Something along the lines of " Welcome to #Beagle | Discussion about the OMAP3 Beagle Board - http://beagleboard.org | Beagle search tools are on #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, NOT here ;-) Make sure you read: http://beagleboard.org/support/faq before asking questions! and be nice! " would be fine
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  • [22:44:10] <zumbi> joelagnel: well, I am also new (more or less) and yes, the topic seem to be protected
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  • [22:45:49] <joelagnel> :)
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  • [23:04:26] <woglinde> topic will not change something
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