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  • [03:03:35] <beagle2> should i have my sd mounted when i dd it onto my harddrive as an image?
  • [03:04:16] <JErk2> probably not
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  • [03:04:32] <ds2> NO!
  • [03:04:38] <beagle2> kk
  • [03:04:47] <ds2> never ever directly access a device if it is mounted.
  • [03:05:00] <beagle2> aye...
  • [03:05:06] <beagle2> k, so i unmounted my sd,
  • [03:05:15] <beagle2> and i checked before i did, it was /dev/sdc
  • [03:05:37] <beagle2> and now when i try to run 'dd if=xxx.img of=/dev/sdc' it says media not found...
  • [03:05:44] <ds2> dmesg should have told you the equiv info
  • [03:05:50] <ds2> how did you unmount it?
  • [03:06:18] <beagle2> via the file browser, as i am uncomfortable with terminal still :)
  • [03:06:30] <ds2> that's probally your problem
  • [03:06:34] <beagle2> ...?
  • [03:06:35] <ds2> remove media, plug it back it
  • [03:06:39] <ds2> goto a terminal
  • [03:06:45] <beagle2> i did it successfully that way before...
  • [03:06:46] <ds2> find out the device name, i.e. do "mount"
  • [03:06:57] <ds2> then do "sudo umount /dev/..."
  • [03:07:05] <ds2> that SHOULD not do a eject on the media
  • [03:07:21] <beagle2> umount /dev/sdb, right?
  • [03:07:31] <beagle2> as opposed to umount /dev/sdb#?
  • [03:08:01] <ds2> usually, no
  • [03:08:10] <ds2> whatever device is listed in the output of the mount command
  • [03:08:13] <beagle2> ya, i just tried it the first way, and it was confused at me
  • [03:08:18] <beagle2> so, umount the individual partitions?
  • [03:08:21] <ds2> usually you mount partitions, so you unmount the partition not the device
  • [03:08:27] <beagle2> ya, the individual partitions
  • [03:08:28] <beagle2> kk
  • [03:08:33] <ds2> mount and umount and mirror image commands
  • [03:09:29] <beagle2> ya, it's working now, however i mouved my sd reader to other usb port,
  • [03:09:40] <beagle2> so it was showing up initially as 'sdb' as opposed to 'sdc'
  • [03:09:44] <ds2> if you did dd commands, it may change partitions which will seriously confuse things
  • [03:09:48] <beagle2> (i am thinking that is the reason, anyway)
  • [03:10:00] <ds2> *nod* it is dynamic, hence the reason the instructions say to check the device name
  • [03:10:26] <beagle2> ya...that still doesn't explain why it was being odd on the other usb port,
  • [03:10:34] <beagle2> when it was showing up as sdc (which makes sense)
  • [03:10:44] <ds2> it could be the port is physically loose
  • [03:10:52] <beagle2> however i'd try dd...of=/dev/sdc and it wouldn't find sdc,
  • [03:11:00] <ds2> happened on my eeePC
  • [03:11:01] <beagle2> but dd...of=/dev/sdb ran...
  • [03:11:28] <beagle2> albiet i don't think it wrote anything on my sd that time, come to think of it i wonder where that command wrote stuff to...
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  • [03:44:00] <ds2> Hmmmmm
  • [03:44:09] <ds2> wonder if everyone is in transit
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  • [03:47:36] <Russ> no, I'm here
  • [03:48:06] <Russ> trying to figure out why xilinx, out of all the pins in an IO bank, would share config SPI in with VREF
  • [03:48:09] <ds2> you are not going to ELC?
  • [03:48:18] <Russ> nor the money or the time
  • [03:48:27] <Russ> I really like conferences though
  • [03:48:51] <ds2> drive up here... stay among the homeless ;)
  • [03:49:07] <Russ> I have flight vouchers on southwest
  • [03:49:25] <Russ> I hear they added more natural lighting to their 737 fleet
  • [03:49:29] <ds2> for hang gliding at 33000ft? :D
  • [03:49:53] <ds2> air should be fresher up there, but it might get a tad chilly
  • [03:50:04] <ds2> OTH, you might get a tour of Yuma :D
  • [03:50:07] <Russ> I'm already taking a london/paris trip in the summer, and that pretty much taps me out
  • [03:50:18] <Russ> I've been to yuma too many times
  • [03:50:38] <ds2> you probally haven't been to the tarmac there ;)
  • [03:51:14] <Russ> no, I missed that, mainly just the gas station
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  • [04:54:59] <jevin_> better get a face mask, i hear those things are harmful if inhaled ;-)
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  • [04:59:19] <Animule> Confetti!
  • [05:01:37] <ds2> it is only 0 ohm resistors :D
  • [05:02:24] <dm8tbr> resistance is futile!
  • [05:07:27] <Russ> or unavoidable
  • [05:07:38] <Russ> especially at high frequencies
  • [05:10:00] <ds2> we all live in a DC world
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  • [05:13:05] <Russ> speak for your self, I'm about to run some spice
  • [05:16:25] <ds2> and you expect convergence?
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  • [05:18:04] <Russ> bah
  • [05:18:16] <Russ> no, stupid encrypted model, er, profit model
  • [05:19:30] <ds2> just assume it works the same as if it was all DC
  • [05:19:49] <Russ> are there any free software projects that support IBIS?
  • [05:19:54] <ds2> no need to be impulsive
  • [05:20:55] <ds2> doubt it
  • [05:20:59] <ds2> btw, which spice are you using?
  • [05:21:08] <Russ> dunno, thought I'd try out ngspice
  • [05:21:31] <ds2> is that gui?
  • [05:21:54] <Russ> waveform generator
  • [05:22:17] <Russ> nutmeg is the graphical component
  • [05:22:42] <ds2> ah
  • [05:22:58] <ds2> ever used LTspice?
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  • [05:23:22] <Russ> nope
  • [05:23:29] <Russ> I'm pretty new to the whole spice thing
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  • [05:23:56] <Russ> I have several point to point DDR components, and I just want to verify that it doesn't catch fire
  • [05:24:15] <ds2> oh
  • [05:24:25] <ds2> in that case, have fun writing netlists
  • [05:24:51] <Russ> thats why I'm moving on from spice to ibis
  • [05:25:09] <Russ> jerks, don't name your genome sequencer ibis
  • [05:25:16] <ds2> hahaahahaha
  • [05:25:32] <_av500_> ibis?
  • [05:25:36] <ds2> you got the formerly known as Protel stuff? that might have a simulator for it
  • [05:25:46] <Russ> ?
  • [05:25:52] <Russ> ibis is not formerly known as protel
  • [05:25:59] <ds2> no, the tools
  • [05:26:05] <Russ> hspice?
  • [05:26:08] <ds2> what's the name dejour...
  • [05:26:10] <_av500_> what happened to good ol rub on schematics?
  • [05:26:14] <ds2> altium
  • [05:26:31] <ds2> it supposely handles things like DDR signal integrity simulations
  • [05:26:58] <ds2> too much rubbing
  • [05:27:00] <Russ> ok, but if it doesn't have a model that matches my transmitter and receiver, its not much good, is it?
  • [05:27:17] <ds2> they may have it
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  • [05:27:35] <Russ> maybe I'll just put a page in my design document that has the eye of sauron and a legend that says "ddr eye pattern"
  • [05:28:31] <ds2> or use POP
  • [05:28:45] <ds2> and ask the chip makers to give you test data ;)
  • [05:29:07] <Russ> well, I have 7 chips involved
  • [05:29:16] <Russ> so we'd start looking like a dr seuess book
  • [05:29:34] <Russ> hmm...."gnucap-ibis is a ibis translator tool...
  • [05:29:37] <Russ> "
  • [05:29:37] <_av500_> 7 chips?
  • [05:29:41] <ds2> that's a large stack ;)
  • [05:29:51] <ds2> start pushing
  • [05:30:03] <Russ> ya, each with fully independant IO
  • [05:30:26] <Russ> maybe I could invent reverse pop and stack packages below the pcb as well as above
  • [05:30:31] <_av500_> R.Goldberg Inc?
  • [05:32:15] * corza got beagle board today :)
  • [05:32:47] <ds2> is it mounted yet?
  • [05:33:15] <Russ> now thats just mean
  • [05:33:21] <Russ> there is a gnucap-ibis manpage
  • [05:33:24] <Russ> but no associated binary
  • [05:35:49] <ds2> just believe it works
  • [05:35:55] <Russ> there is no binary
  • [05:35:55] <ds2> it is only transmission lines
  • [05:37:06] <ds2> it is a GNU product, maybe there is only source
  • [05:37:18] <Russ> there seems to be a CVS repo
  • [05:38:35] <Russ> hmm..its the website
  • [05:39:57] <Russ> ok people, don't name your project IBIS and put pictures of chips on your webpage if it has nothing to do with ibis
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  • [05:44:10] <Russ> suppose I'll just model my transmitters/receivers best I can
  • [05:45:19] <ds2> isn't the PCB a big factor?
  • [05:45:25] <Russ> yes
  • [05:45:30] <Russ> hopefully the largest
  • [05:46:11] <Animal> antennas
  • [05:47:03] <ds2> wonder if you can do the modeling in PuFF
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  • [06:00:10] <Russ> er, ODT
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  • [06:28:01] <tdh2002> someone can give some infor about running androind on beagleboard ?
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  • [07:27:02] <woglinde> gm
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  • [07:51:27] <av500> gm
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  • [08:01:52] <woglinde> av500 slept well?
  • [08:02:06] <av500> well...
  • [08:02:08] <av500> :)
  • [08:02:26] <woglinde> hm the little one
  • [08:02:27] <woglinde> okay
  • [08:02:48] <av500> nah, I am imune to baby noise at night
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  • [11:08:01] <BB_B> Is anyone having trouble bitbaking packages? bake fails when trying to grab ncurses-5.7-20110108-patch.sh.bz2
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  • [11:24:40] <woglinde_> hm?
  • [11:27:20] <BB_B> I was getting on fine the other day, I'm unsure if the problem is local or more widespread http://pastebin.com/w7kuQMtC
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  • [11:32:08] <woglinde_> bb_b on oe.dev we now have ncurses5.9
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  • [11:46:06] <BB_B> woglinde_: I was trying to stay within the guide on the Angstrom blog as I climb this learning curve. I'll have a look at switching to oe.dev and if I can build the same package
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  • [11:52:35] <woglinde_> BB_B hm maybee koen needs to mirror the patch
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  • [12:00:42] <Guest14861> anyone try to use the svideo as the main video output
  • [12:04:53] <BB_B> yes
  • [12:06:56] <Guest14861> which OS ???
  • [12:07:05] <av500> linux
  • [12:07:37] <Guest14861> I intend to use Amgstrom
  • [12:07:43] <av500> thats fine
  • [12:07:52] <Guest14861> do i need to config anything
  • [12:08:04] <av500> kernel boot args
  • [12:08:06] <BB_B> bootargs I believe
  • [12:08:33] <Guest14861> ok
  • [12:08:37] <Guest14861> thank so much
  • [12:08:41] <Guest14861> I try
  • [12:08:59] <Guest14861> btw
  • [12:09:16] <BB_B> look at OMAP DSS2
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  • [12:09:28] <Guest14861> anyone have trouble with the HDMI out
  • [12:09:53] <Guest14861> I cant get my BeagleXM to display a thing
  • [12:10:04] <av500> what monitor?
  • [12:10:17] <Guest14861> I used my computer monitoer
  • [12:10:24] <Guest14861> LG
  • [12:10:41] <Guest14861> I dun have it now so I cant tell the model
  • [12:10:53] <Guest14861> but Itried it with 3 different monitor
  • [12:11:02] <Guest14861> include the LCD TV
  • [12:11:40] <Guest14861> I cant get the EDID in angstrom
  • [12:12:06] <BB_B> sounds like you need to check your bootargs to see if they are configured correctly
  • [12:13:08] <Guest14861> Do I need to change the res to fit the monitor ???
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  • [12:14:53] <av500> depends on the monitor
  • [12:15:05] <av500> some accept many resolutions
  • [12:15:08] <av500> some only a few
  • [12:15:17] <av500> and LG seems to be "problematic"
  • [12:15:25] <av500> every 2nd hdmi issue is LG
  • [12:15:30] <av500> no idea why
  • [12:15:42] <Guest14861> :|
  • [12:15:57] <Guest14861> thank
  • [12:16:18] <Guest14861> may be I should try it on some other LCD
  • [12:18:05] <av500> you have the serial working?
  • [12:18:13] <av500> and you can see the boot logs?
  • [12:19:10] <Guest14861> yes
  • [12:19:20] <Guest14861> I can boot angstrom
  • [12:19:23] <av500> ok
  • [12:19:23] <Guest14861> ubuntu
  • [12:19:41] <av500> pastebin your bootlog
  • [12:19:53] <Guest14861> the only problem upto now is the HDMI out
  • [12:20:25] <Guest14861> so I think may be i can use the svideo out instead
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  • [12:39:28] <hitlin37> on 101
  • [12:43:47] <av500> what does mount tell you?
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  • [13:47:34] <xxiao> what other TI chips have two MACs?
  • [13:47:43] <xxiao> i only know 8168/389x series
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  • [13:59:53] <xxiao> it appears the ti816x/ti389x are the only chips that have two EMACS
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  • [14:51:38] <Yodha> Hi, I am trying to get the WLAN working on Angstrom. My device is a trendnet Nspeed which has realtek 8191S.
  • [14:52:51] <Yodha> I checked the /drivers/net/wireless/ but it doesn't have the necessary driver 8191SU.ko
  • [14:53:24] <Yodha> When I tried to compile the driver from its source, I have to provide the Kernel source path
  • [14:53:56] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  • [14:54:22] <av500> Yodha: follow that, do step 2 and build virtual/kernel
  • [14:54:32] <Yodha> ok
  • [14:54:38] <Yodha> thanks a lot... will do
  • [14:55:02] <av500> edit local.conf: #INHERIT += "rm_work"
  • [14:55:10] <av500> that will leave the kernel source tree
  • [14:55:35] <av500> then you can either merge in your driver or build it standalone
  • [14:56:23] <Yodha> great
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  • [15:00:04] <av500> Yodha: also: http://www.xora.org.uk/2009/12/10/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/
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  • [15:00:26] <av500> see the various way to call bitbake wrt kernel building
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  • [15:02:11] <thurbad> that may come in handy in the future... bookmarking :)
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  • [15:04:05] <av500> thurbad: what, you dont read all irc logs?
  • [15:04:26] <thurbad> yeah... No
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  • [15:05:11] <koen> it's also on the angstrom front page
  • [15:05:18] <koen> which noone reads, since it's not a wiki
  • [15:05:32] <av500> koen: make a little decoy "edit" button
  • [15:05:33] <XorA|gone> goddam article :-D
  • [15:05:50] <av500> XorA|gone: :)
  • [15:06:33] <XorA|gone> well you can thank Elphel for it, its their fault :-D
  • [15:07:17] <thurbad> my phone so lies.. it keeps reporting H+ for 4g when my speeds are barely edge quality ~.~
  • [15:11:58] <thurbad> I don't honestly expect 4g speed from AT&T yet.. but 3g would at least be nice
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  • [15:13:05] <dm8tbr> srsly, there is no 4G, I doubt your operator even has LTE deployed
  • [15:13:23] <dm8tbr> '4g' is marketing BS
  • [15:17:10] <thurbad> that's fine, but faster than dialup would be nice.. is that too much to ask?
  • [15:17:16] <thurbad> :P
  • [15:18:31] <dm8tbr> come to finland. HSPA in every remote forrest location ;)
  • [15:19:06] <XorA|gone> heh, some networks in UK have HSDPA but its mega slow due to all the bloomin iphone users surfing for pr0n 24/7
  • [15:19:47] <XorA|gone> big fat pipes to nowhere
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  • [16:00:09] <BB_B> koen: would you be bale to have a look at ncurses-5.7-20110108-patch.sh.bz2
  • [16:00:24] <BB_B> trying to build but getting 404 errors
  • [16:00:49] <BB_B> thats http 404 not 404 errors
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  • [16:18:09] <tsahee> Hello! I'm back with another question..
  • [16:18:40] <tsahee> I want to record sound, but I have no arecord. (Angstom beagleboard demo)
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  • [16:19:26] <tsahee> Actually, I want to process raw recorded sound with a program
  • [16:20:13] <tsahee> something like my_app < /dev/dsp, but that doesn't seem to work, so I thought to begin with a sanity check for recording
  • [16:21:20] <tsahee> I do have alsa mixer, I can play files with mplayer, but no aplay or arecord
  • [16:21:51] <tsahee> Is there a bitbake recipie for that?
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  • [16:47:54] <mikey_w> Anyone using barebox?
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  • [17:04:49] <woglinde_> mikey_w why?
  • [17:05:30] <l4> opkg install alsa-utils-aplay
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  • [17:08:46] <mikey_w> Just curious, I am thinking of trying it and would like to nor re-invent anything.
  • [17:08:55] <mikey_w> not
  • [17:10:14] <tsahee> l4: thank you!
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  • [17:44:07] <cbrake> is the pandaboard available for purchase yet on Digikey? The qty available says 0, but I'm wondering if they are currently being made.
  • [17:44:26] <av500> yes
  • [17:44:38] <av500> http://www.pandaboard.org/content/buy
  • [17:45:04] <av500> backlog should be near 0 soon
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  • [18:22:13] <xxiao> i have 1G RAM, to use it without HIGHMEM i set kernel split at 2:2, however the memory starts at 80000000, how will this work?
  • [18:22:56] <xxiao> this should work..sorry for the noice
  • [18:22:58] <xxiao> noise
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  • [20:41:34] <ands> hi
  • [20:44:44] <ands> are the ath9k-drivers provided with a default BeagleboardDebian-image?
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  • [21:07:24] <ds2> CHiRP
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  • [21:24:42] <thurbad> ands, depending on your kernel version it should be avaialable as part of the kernel.. but you may need to rebuild to get support integrated, beyond that I don't know specifically for the distro you're using
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  • [21:50:57] <ands> thurbad: at the moment i'm using a default Beagleboard-Angstr??m-image, but ath9k seems to be not available for it
  • [21:51:29] <_av500_> ue narcissus and let it build one with all drivers
  • [21:51:33] <_av500_> use
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  • [21:53:03] <ands> _av500_: thank you, i will try that ;)
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  • [22:14:39] <thurbad> or just download the modules archive from the demo page that matches your current kernel
  • [22:15:11] <thurbad> ... if it was built with support for it, not sure if it was or not
  • [22:15:19] * thurbad is no help at all today ~.~
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  • [22:21:23] <jonpry> when is that shipment of xM's going to get to mouser?
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  • [22:26:25] <djlewis_> hope they dont go fedex thru memphis
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  • [22:49:59] <djlewis_> but then, mouser is in Tx as is BB makers
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  • [23:47:18] <rsalveti> koen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/753071
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  • [23:47:29] <rsalveti> koen: for the omap drm driver, with edid detection
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