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  • [00:08:12] * mru grinds it up and makes device paper
  • [00:08:23] <mru> there, flattened
  • [00:08:29] <kyv_> how can i see what bootcmd and bootargs are bieng loaded ?
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  • [00:09:20] <kev> that were saved with saveenv?
  • [00:09:35] <mru> printenv
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  • [00:11:24] <kyv> ok
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  • [00:29:57] <kyv> humm and to out the device name of the SD?
  • [00:30:34] <kyv> mmc device says that there isnt one
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  • [00:56:00] <prpplague> jkridner_: you hear back from rusty?
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  • [01:00:23] <prpplague> fyi for anyone who has a revC board, if you are holding out to purchase a zippy or zippy2, they are no longer in production and when the stock at Sparkfun and digikey are gone, no more will be available
  • [01:01:04] <kyv> well ok figured out my mmc device name, now im booting but init-bootom wants to mount /dev on /root/dev :/
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  • [01:02:06] * spikebike wonders if/when beagle plans to do a cortex-a9 or similar
  • [01:02:53] <prpplague> *cough* panda *cough*
  • [01:02:56] <kyv> isnt that the panda
  • [01:02:57] <kyv> ?
  • [01:03:00] <kyv> ah
  • [01:03:09] <spikebike> heh
  • [01:03:18] <spikebike> well I was hoping for something actually available ;-)
  • [01:03:42] <kyv> is the panda not available for purchase?
  • [01:03:53] <spikebike> well you can get in queue but I'm hearing 8-15 weeks
  • [01:04:14] <spikebike> not sure what the bottleneck is, the entire process seems rather opaque
  • [01:05:23] <prpplague> spikebike: all the SoC's are going to some big company for a product release
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  • [01:05:52] <spikebike> ya
  • [01:06:04] <prpplague> spikebike: http://www.phonearena.com/news/BlackBerry-PlayBook-will-be-first-tablet-to-run-TIs-OMAP4-chipset-RIM-to-wait-it-out-for-dual-core-in-phones_id15842
  • [01:06:19] <spikebike> heh, I'm not optimistic the playbook will sell in huge volumes
  • [01:06:38] <spikebike> but hopefully between all the folks doing a cortex a9 that one of them will have supplies enough for a fun dev board
  • [01:06:54] <spikebike> ti, nvidia, qualcomm, etc.
  • [01:07:07] <prpplague> <prpplague> spikebike: all the SoC's are going to some big company for a product release
  • [01:09:56] <spikebike> the only one that I suspect will be hugely bottlenecked would be the ipad2
  • [01:10:07] <spikebike> presumably that only uses one brand of ARM chip
  • [01:10:48] * prpplague wonders if spikebike read the url about RIM
  • [01:10:54] <jacekowski> or new nokia n9
  • [01:11:25] <spikebike> prpplague: ya, I'm just not convinced the playbook will sell by the boatload
  • [01:11:40] <spikebike> and even if they do qualcom or nvidia should be happy to sell a SoC
  • [01:12:04] * prpplague doesn't understand spikebike's statement
  • [01:12:15] <kyv> shouldnt intitramfs have an /etc/fstab?
  • [01:12:31] <aholler> why?
  • [01:13:23] <kyv> aholler: well im trying to figure out why d-i on the beagle wants to mount /dev on /root/dev
  • [01:13:32] <kyv> seems like an /etc/fstab thingy
  • [01:14:21] * aholler hates 2 or 3 letter acronyms
  • [01:14:37] <aholler> what is d-i?
  • [01:14:47] <prpplague> aholler: i was going to ask too
  • [01:14:58] <kyv> d-i debian installer
  • [01:15:16] <kyv> sorry about the acronym
  • [01:15:32] <prpplague> spikebike: what do you mean "<spikebike> and even if they do qualcom or nvidia should be happy to sell a SoC" ?
  • [01:15:45] <spikebike> prpplague: TI isn't the only supplier of CPUs
  • [01:16:01] <prpplague> spikebike: but it is the one playbook is based on
  • [01:16:14] <spikebike> prpplague: any particular reason a beagleboard couldn't switch if they can't get CPUs from TI?
  • [01:16:31] <spikebike> prpplague: er, right but I'm not trying to buy a playbook
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  • [01:17:14] <prpplague> spikebike: you asked why panda has a backorder, i'm tell you, RIM and other customers get most of the production
  • [01:17:48] <spikebike> sure.
  • [01:18:09] <spikebike> I'm hoping that someone does a community board based on a CPU that's actually shipping
  • [01:18:35] <prpplague> spikebike: omap4430 is shipping just not to end users that only want to buy 10
  • [01:18:36] <jacekowski> 7 layer board is not something community can do
  • [01:18:48] <jacekowski> if single prototype costs like $1k+
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  • [01:53:46] <dsfgdf> ls
  • [01:53:48] <dsfgdf> pwd
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  • [02:24:49] <calculus> jkridner_: boards, flyers, and cute beagles to pet would be good
  • [02:25:04] <calculus> I remember having to make more copies of the flyers when I did the booth last time
  • [02:26:13] <jkridner_> k, i'll ship you flyers.
  • [02:26:39] <jkridner_> I don't know about stuffed animals... don't know if I can get any of those. I'll ask the marketing folks to see if they'll spring for some.
  • [02:27:05] <jkridner_> will you make the request to Grame? Did you want to combine with PandaBoard.org or have something separate?
  • [02:28:41] <calculus> if it is just me, I would combine them, since I told jayabharath I would do pandaboard
  • [02:29:01] <calculus> but if I do both, I can wear my beagleboard t-shirt :)
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  • [02:30:42] <jkridner_> I think ds2 is going to be there... but he might be a bit annoyed with me because I'm delayed over a month getting back to him on another isisue.
  • [02:30:43] <calculus> Grame or Gareth, I don't know who Grame is
  • [02:30:46] <jkridner_> er, issue.
  • [02:30:51] <jkridner_> er, Gareth. :)
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  • [02:31:25] <calculus> I think I saw ds2 on the talk schedule
  • [02:31:41] <calculus> s/talk/speaker/
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  • [02:32:47] <prpplague> jkridner_: trainer boards are going to circuitco tommorrow
  • [02:33:08] <jkridner_> prpplague: how much are they?
  • [02:33:33] <jkridner_> will anybody announce it on the mailing list?
  • [02:33:36] <prpplague> jkridner: $99USD
  • [02:33:37] <jkridner_> for "ads" like this, should I be the gateway?
  • [02:33:43] * prpplague jokes with jkridner_
  • [02:34:19] <prpplague> jkridner_: they'll be the $59USD as normal, but i suspect rusty is gonna give you a qty discount on your batch
  • [02:34:56] <jkridner_> that'll be helpful. :)
  • [02:35:01] <prpplague> jkridner_: yea if you can talk to rusty on that stuff, he's the biz end of things
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  • [02:39:05] <cwicks> jkridner_: i have a couple of stuffed dogs
  • [02:39:30] <jkridner_> hi cwicks! so glad you chimed in!! Thanks!!!!
  • [02:39:34] <prpplague> jkridner_: i have some dogs we can cook
  • [02:39:34] <cwicks> jkridner_: can you take a look in your inbox please
  • [02:39:40] <jkridner_> k.
  • [02:39:55] <cwicks> please tell me the address is US/Canada...
  • [02:40:14] <jkridner_> calculus: can you PM cwicks the address?
  • [02:40:26] <jkridner_> calculus: I'll need it as well to send the BB-xMs.
  • [02:41:20] <cwicks> i'm so used to being here monday nites for the UT students, it's just stuck w/ me.
  • [02:41:31] <jkridner_> cwicks: what am I looking for in my Inbox. I didn't think I needed to respond at all on this UT competition thing until I get some video to review.
  • [02:42:30] <cwicks> jkridner_ you just got a link from her a few mins ago to look at - looks like the real deal, need your confirm
  • [02:42:46] <jkridner_> ah, k, downloading now.
  • [02:44:13] <jkridner_> 25 minutes left on the download.
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  • [02:45:41] <cwicks> hmmmm only took mine about 4 mins, but I'm at work
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  • [02:46:26] <calculus> jkridner_: sure thing
  • [02:48:47] <calculus> cwicks: check you pm
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  • [02:49:01] <calculus> your*
  • [02:49:02] <calculus> thanks
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  • [03:27:21] <kyv> http://pastebin.com/e0j2uJQQ
  • [03:27:30] <kyv> ?!
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  • [05:57:00] <armin76> _av500_: i talked about getting chromium to work on arm, but thats it
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  • [06:51:09] <_av500_> armin76: that makes you the chrome arm guy :)
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  • [07:44:52] <xerebz> hello?
  • [07:45:27] <xerebz> i'm trying to connect my razer mouse to the beagle usb it lights up but doesn't work
  • [07:45:39] <xerebz> any ideas?
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  • [07:53:03] <_av500_> connect where?
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  • [07:53:28] <_av500_> C4 or xm?
  • [07:54:31] <xerebz> c4
  • [07:54:40] <xerebz> i am connecting to the big usb ehci?
  • [07:55:07] <_av500_> yes
  • [07:55:18] <_av500_> but you need a powered hub
  • [07:55:19] <xerebz> the hub is not externally powered but i'm powering the board with the 5v
  • [07:55:49] <xerebz> i tried connecting a mouse and a keyboard one at a time directly into the usb port
  • [07:56:03] <xerebz> the mouse did light up but didn't work just the same
  • [07:56:24] <xerebz> so my problem is i need a powered hub?
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  • [08:00:50] <kyv> anyone run into a kernel oops on configuring usb network on beagle
  • [08:00:51] <kyv> ?
  • [08:01:32] <kyv> linux-image-2.6.37-x2
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  • [08:02:08] <kyv> i see problems were reported but for 2.6.34
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  • [08:06:57] <aholler> xerebz: your mouse is usb 1.x, the ehci on the beagle is only 2.x
  • [08:10:19] <xerebz> aholler: i'm trying even a keyboard directly to the ehci
  • [08:10:28] <xerebz> and it doesn't work
  • [08:10:30] <gxk> koen: ping
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  • [08:17:16] <aholler> xerebz: keyboards are usb 1.x too
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  • [08:18:16] <aholler> therefor you need a hub inbetween
  • [08:21:10] <xerebz> a usb 2.0 powered hub?
  • [08:21:28] <xerebz> or can it be not powered
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  • [08:21:43] <aholler> it doesn't need to be a powered hub when you are powering the beagle
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  • [08:21:54] <xerebz> ok
  • [08:21:55] <aholler> and almost every hub speaks 1.x and 2.x
  • [08:22:00] <xerebz> i have a hub here
  • [08:22:06] <xerebz> but it doesn't seem to be doing the trick
  • [08:22:12] <xerebz> is there a way to test if its 2.0?
  • [08:22:24] <aholler> dmesg
  • [08:23:36] <xerebz> i connect the hub to the board and dmesg | tail but nothing shows new
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  • [08:24:29] <aholler> dmesg | tail doesn't work
  • [08:25:56] <xerebz> i don't get how to use dmesg to find this out :\
  • [08:26:15] <xerebz> tried dmesg | grep usb also
  • [08:27:04] <aholler> seems just calling dmesg an reading the last dozens lines is too much to read
  • [08:27:34] <aholler> I know reading is overrated ;)
  • [08:29:07] <xerebz> i did read them but it says nothing about what's connected to the ehci
  • [08:29:59] <aholler> when you connect the hub something should appear.
  • [08:30:18] <xerebz> [ 1289.085693] usb usb2: Product: OMAP-EHCI Host Controller
  • [08:30:20] <xerebz> [ 1289.091094] usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32 ehci_hcd
  • [08:30:22] <xerebz> [ 1289.096557] usb usb2: SerialNumber: ehci-omap.0
  • [08:30:24] <xerebz> [ 1289.102020] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
  • [08:30:26] <xerebz> [ 1289.136108] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
  • [08:30:28] <xerebz> [ 1289.141296] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
  • [08:30:56] <xerebz> maybe that's the problem it's not detecting when the hub is connecting..
  • [08:31:18] <xerebz> no new messages come out when i disconnect/connect anything on that ehci
  • [08:32:02] <aholler> usb mass storage?
  • [08:32:27] <xerebz> idk what that is i haven't connected any storage devices to the usb
  • [08:32:44] <aholler> do you use angstrom?
  • [08:32:47] <xerebz> yes
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  • [08:34:54] <aholler> if I remember correctly that doesn't use udev or mdev so it loads the modules regardless if needed
  • [08:36:22] <xerebz> is that what's causing the problem?
  • [08:36:47] <aholler> no, your hub seems to be the problem
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  • [08:37:04] <xerebz> i mean i used a razer mouse..
  • [08:37:09] <aholler> try a usb-stick or something else with usb .x to verify the ehci on the board
  • [08:37:12] <xerebz> i wouldn't expect it to not be usb 2.0
  • [08:37:16] <xerebz> ok
  • [08:37:28] <aholler> why should a mice be 2.x?
  • [08:37:53] <xerebz> aren't the new ones 2.x?
  • [08:38:18] <aholler> why?
  • [08:38:30] <xerebz> i connected a usb 2.0 external enclosure with a hdd in it and no dmesg shows up
  • [08:38:42] <xerebz> i'm reading dmesg from root off of the serial port
  • [08:38:52] <xerebz> since i can't interact with it any other way
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  • [08:41:01] <xerebz> does having angstrom on a beagle offer any benefits over ubuntu?
  • [08:41:17] <xerebz> might just switch and see if it works
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  • [09:01:11] <koen> xerebz: it's faster and support a lot more of the beagle hw
  • [09:01:59] <spikebike> koen: it's = angstrom?
  • [09:02:13] <spikebike> and beagle = beagle, beagle xm or both?
  • [09:03:26] <xerebz> btw i'm pretty sure i found out the problem... my usb hub is full speed and ehci only supports 2.0 high speed
  • [09:06:41] <koen> spikebike: yes and both
  • [09:06:55] <spikebike> cool, thanks, good to know
  • [09:07:06] <spikebike> pondering pulling the trigger on an Xm purchase
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  • [09:24:45] <xerebz> thanks for the help btw good night
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  • [10:30:54] <velory> Hey there, to connect wii-nunchuk and beagle is 3.3v regulator is enough ? I have http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/images/large/product/wiichuck_01_LRG.jpg this
  • [10:31:20] <velory> and 3.3v regulator looking like http://www.sparkfun.com/products/526 ?
  • [10:31:57] <velory> and do I need cable cause I don't know which ports are i2c in beagle
  • [10:32:00] <velory> I have rev3
  • [10:33:24] <velory> or do I need http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?p=16942
  • [10:34:37] <velory> and do I need cables ?
  • [10:38:40] <velory> any help ?
  • [10:39:00] <velory> aholler: I think you have some knowledge, you helped me about that before ?
  • [10:39:31] <av500> velory: the BB is 1.8V
  • [10:39:32] <velory> do I need 1.8 to 5v or 1.8 to 3.3v or just 3.3v regulator or everything on the left
  • [10:39:46] <velory> av500: ah you helped before
  • [10:40:57] <velory> The nunchuck uses a proprietary connector. I just cut the end off of my nunchuck cable. The cable has 4 wires.white-ground red - 3.3+v green - data yellow - clock
  • [10:41:28] <velory> I find this http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer_Nunchuk but Trainer is not available so I'll buy shifter regulator etc. to connect
  • [10:41:30] <av500> so you need to power it with 3.3V and translate the signals from 3.3V to 1.8V
  • [10:41:41] <velory> hmm
  • [10:42:06] <av500> the trainer schematics show you how to convert 1.8 to 3.3
  • [10:42:23] <velory> av500: can I buy 1.8v to 3.3v shifter ?
  • [10:42:28] <av500> sure
  • [10:42:30] <velory> but what does it have to look like ?
  • [10:42:36] <velory> I don't know that for e.g how much pins
  • [10:42:46] <av500> check the trainer schematics
  • [10:43:31] <velory> av500: I think you showed me http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745 before
  • [10:43:34] <velory> if I'm right
  • [10:43:42] <velory> av500: I don't need regulator right ?
  • [10:43:54] <av500> you need to power the nunchuck, no?
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  • [10:45:07] <velory> av500: nunchuck taking it's power from red right?
  • [10:45:11] <velory> red cable
  • [10:45:16] <av500> how would I know?
  • [10:45:20] <velory> so 1.8v to 3.3v shifter .. But do I need also regulator ?
  • [10:45:58] <velory> hmm
  • [10:46:22] <av500> [11:43:54] <av500> you need to power the nunchuck, no?
  • [10:47:56] <velory> av500: well I'm newbie about powering etc. just reading manuals for e.g in ardunio it says Attach white to the Arduino's ground, red to 5 volt+, green to analog pin 4, yellow to analog pin 5. The nunchuck is only supposed to get 3.3+ volts. So far it has worked fine at 5 volts. So I thought it is taking it's power from red pin
  • [10:48:19] <velory> The Trainer provides an interface to the BeagleBoard's I??C port. The I??C signals are level translated to either +3.3V or +5V (user selectable with a jumper). The I??C signals are located next the the prototyping area.
  • [10:49:24] <velory> But av500 don't know what to look if I need any external power or something
  • [10:49:49] <av500> you answered it all yourself
  • [10:51:19] <velory> av500: well I don't know if I have to maintain constant voltage level
  • [10:52:05] <velory> or with using shifter I no longer need regulator or not
  • [10:52:42] <lwithers> hi, I've just tried to compile a custom kernel, and built a uImage. However, u-boot is hanging at "Loading Kernel Image ..."
  • [10:53:07] <lwithers> is there a common cause for this problem? e.g. maybe I shouldn't have gzipped the vmlinux before preparing my uimage?
  • [10:54:41] <av500> ttyS2 vs ttyO2?
  • [10:54:56] <lwithers> http://pastebin.ca/2044511 is the full output
  • [10:55:33] <av500> lwithers: looks like your image is not good
  • [10:56:15] <lwithers> indeed; any idea where I should start looking?
  • [10:56:36] <lwithers> don't worry if not, I'll start digging through it myself, just wondered if there was some sort of common fault that could cause this
  • [10:57:54] <lwithers> ah, I wonder if it's the load address; I think I have that wrong
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  • [11:28:54] <dileep> hi
  • [11:28:59] <dileep> i need help on
  • [11:29:05] <dileep> beagle board XM
  • [11:29:14] <dileep> please
  • [11:29:19] <av500> ask
  • [11:29:21] <av500> a
  • [11:29:22] <av500> question
  • [11:29:24] <dileep> let me know how to create static IP
  • [11:29:34] <dileep> for the beagle board
  • [11:29:50] <dileep> and also my XM board
  • [11:29:53] <XorA> edit /etc/network/interfaces on the 3 common distributions
  • [11:30:06] <dileep> ya i did it
  • [11:30:19] <dileep> but when i am booting again the board
  • [11:30:32] <dileep> it is getting disappear
  • [11:30:45] <dileep> i want to allocate it permanently
  • [11:31:22] <dileep> my board came with default
  • [11:31:29] <dileep> angstrom kernel image
  • [11:32:11] <dileep> so when i press reset button
  • [11:32:25] <dileep> my static IP address is getting
  • [11:32:29] <dileep> disappear
  • [11:32:42] <dileep> please help me on this
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  • [11:33:46] <dileep> hello
  • [11:33:52] <dileep> some one is there to help ?
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  • [11:35:13] <XorA> if its set in /etc/network/interfaces it shouldnt change
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  • [11:35:52] <dileep> ok
  • [11:35:59] <dileep> please let me know the step by step
  • [11:36:06] <dileep> procedure to do that
  • [11:36:16] <av500> 1) edit /etc/network/interfaces
  • [11:36:18] <XorA> dileep: are you familiar with linux and debian at all?
  • [11:36:29] <dileep> no
  • [11:36:32] <dileep> not much
  • [11:36:35] <dileep> i am newbie
  • [11:36:43] <dileep> but i am trying hard to learn
  • [11:36:55] <dileep> and setup my board
  • [11:37:41] * XorA doesnt have an easy example to copy/paste as all my machines are using bridges
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  • [11:38:10] <XorA> but googling for debian network interfaces should turn up some howtos
  • [11:38:42] <dileep> ok
  • [11:38:46] <dileep> i will google it
  • [11:38:48] <dileep> and one more
  • [11:38:53] <dileep> question is
  • [11:39:05] <aholler> the default kernel image is ram-only
  • [11:39:05] <dileep> when i copy some new files on beagle board filesystem
  • [11:39:34] <dileep> it is also getting disappear when i reboot the board again
  • [11:39:39] <aholler> try to install normal angstrom
  • [11:39:50] <dileep> means ?
  • [11:40:07] <dileep> i think it is using ROM
  • [11:40:25] <aholler> that image use ram for /. all what you are doing their is gone with a reboot
  • [11:41:00] <dileep> ok
  • [11:41:12] <XorA> that would explain it :-)
  • [11:41:26] <dileep> then what should be my next step
  • [11:41:35] <dileep> ?
  • [11:41:40] * XorA boots koen
  • [11:42:05] <XorA> dileep: visit angstrom narcissus and get a real image
  • [11:42:17] <dileep> ok
  • [11:42:28] <dileep> then
  • [11:43:08] <siji> dileep, you can build the image from there
  • [11:43:23] <dileep> ok fine
  • [11:43:31] <dileep> i will do it
  • [11:44:08] <XorA> Angstrom is a bit like lego without the smiley heads
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  • [11:44:35] <dileep> ??
  • [11:44:51] <XorA> you can build it from blocks using narcissus
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  • [11:46:02] <dileep> ok guys
  • [11:46:11] <dileep> but as i am very new to this
  • [11:46:14] <dileep> platform
  • [11:46:29] <dileep> getting scared whether my steps doing by me
  • [11:46:37] <dileep> may effect the board ?
  • [11:46:49] <XorA> dileep: dont be scared the only known way to destoy a beagle is to connect +12V
  • [11:47:06] <XorA> dileep: you can always recover from flashing mistakes
  • [11:47:31] <dileep> ok please suggest the
  • [11:47:53] <dileep> web sites for the procedure to be done
  • [11:49:19] <dileep> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BootingBeagleBoard
  • [11:49:41] <dileep> i am following the above website
  • [11:49:50] <dileep> please let me know whether it is
  • [11:50:00] <dileep> ok ?
  • [11:50:20] <XorA> Id reference beagleboard.org as main reference
  • [11:50:38] <XorA> but Im a bad man to talk to as I been doing this so long I boot beagle with eyes closed
  • [11:51:08] <dileep> ohh
  • [11:51:12] <dileep> great budddy
  • [11:51:20] <dileep> i cant do it with eyes wide opened
  • [11:51:21] <dileep> also
  • [11:51:23] <dileep> :-)
  • [11:52:10] * XorA is not actually even sure his beagle works
  • [11:54:10] <dileep> its ok
  • [11:58:04] <dileep> anyways
  • [11:58:17] <dileep> thank you for the help and suggestions
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  • [12:07:27] <ratmice_> was curious if the conference calls were recorded/archived somewhere
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  • [12:15:42] <lyakh> koen: hi, I just realised, that the README, that I've uploaded with my bbxm-mt9p031 stuff is not visible at least in my iceweasel... have you actually got it?
  • [12:16:37] <av500> lyakh: does the other board work better?
  • [12:16:59] <lyakh> av500: haven't tried yet, will let know here
  • [12:19:07] <koen> lyakh: I seems to have missed the readme
  • [12:19:24] <lyakh> koen: damn... sorry. I've now renamed it to some text file
  • [12:19:35] <lyakh> without it one has basically no chance
  • [12:20:02] <lyakh> koen: you should've complained;)
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  • [12:48:20] <rahman> hello *
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  • [12:51:03] <ericb2> hello
  • [12:52:34] <dexcs> hi
  • [12:54:32] <ericb2> sakoman: sorry, I had to search in my logs to find it was you who answered me :)
  • [12:55:02] <dexcs> hey, is there a way to keep a shell to a beagle with ubuntu open at a range of about 20 ??? 40 km ? radiomodem? can somone give me a hint where to search first? :-)
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  • [13:16:06] <lwithers> ok, so I've built a kernel: which image file do I use? currently using arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
  • [13:16:14] <lwithers> then gzip -9ing that, then using mkimage from u-boot
  • [13:16:34] <lwithers> that doesn't seem to work??? what have I got wrong?
  • [13:16:40] <XorA> lwithers: most kernels support make uImage
  • [13:17:27] <lwithers> oh; thanks
  • [13:17:56] <XorA> need u-boot-utils installed on your distro, but fedora/debian both have that packaged AFAIK
  • [13:18:19] <lwithers> yep, I have it in Debian
  • [13:18:43] <XorA> youll end with an arch/arm/boot/uImage file
  • [13:19:00] <ericb2> is there an existing Debian image we can dd on an micro SD card .. and boot a BeagleBoard xM ?
  • [13:19:07] <ericb2> just using it ?
  • [13:19:40] <XorA> ericb2: I dont know, there were some for beagle, which should work if you switch the kernel
  • [13:19:44] <lwithers> awesome, the kernel is now booting, thanks a lot
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  • [13:20:25] <ericb2> XorA: you mean doing a chroot, or using deboostrap maybe ?
  • [13:21:00] <ericb2> hmm debootstrap .. not sure about the exact name :)
  • [13:21:44] * ericb2 currently installing everything manually, but that's not reliable nor easely repeatable
  • [13:22:35] <XorA> ericb2: there used to be some lenny tarballs
  • [13:22:39] <XorA> ericb2: already done
  • [13:22:52] <XorA> ericb2: probably on beagleboard.org or elinux.org somewhere
  • [13:23:00] <ericb2> Lenny would be perfect
  • [13:23:28] * XorA has just taken his sheeva to squeeze and all is good
  • [13:23:34] <armin76> _av500_: and you're the digikey guy :P
  • [13:24:16] <av500> armin76: right :)
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  • [13:25:50] <koen> if you're going to use debian, buy a mini2440
  • [13:26:04] <koen> anything is is a waste since debian only supports arm920t
  • [13:26:41] <ericb2> koen: you mean Debian does not well support BeagleBoard processors ?
  • [13:27:55] <_koen_> debian stopped at armv4t, beagle is armv7a
  • [13:28:32] <ericb2> I have read somewhere ARMv4
  • [13:28:52] <ericb2> _koen_: indeed. Only Ubuntu seems to support armv7 IIRc
  • [13:30:33] <XorA> ericb2: Angstrom support armv7, and we did it before ubuntu
  • [13:31:17] <ericb2> XorA: I believe you
  • [13:31:30] <XorA> _koen_: most of the armv7 leetness is lost unless your doing number crunchies, debian is perfectly acceptable to run if you just want your beagle to be a backend "something"
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  • [13:32:14] <_koen_> the v4t -> v5t is a big improvement already across the board
  • [13:32:35] <_koen_> but if you're only going to use it irssi box, debian might be just fast enough
  • [13:32:47] <lwithers> should the beagleboard xM have CONFIG_MMC_OMAP or CONFIG_MMC_OMAP_HS? (or both?) my kernel doesn't seem to find /dev/mmcblk0 yet
  • [13:33:08] <lwithers> I also notice OE has some patches above and beyond the stock 2.6.37 kernel build I'm using which I will investigate
  • [13:33:16] <XorA> _koen_: when I benchmarked mplyer armv4t and armv5t code it came out so close as to not make a difference :-)
  • [13:34:11] <ericb2> XorA: Angstrom seems to work well. My concern is how to install easely something, and I'm not sure to well understand how to achieve that with Angstrom
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  • [13:37:25] <ericb2> e.g. : how to install Xaw (probably 7.7 ) headers ? Same for Python headers
  • [13:38:19] <XorA> opkg install libxaw-dev :-)
  • [13:38:44] <ericb2> XorA: I tried, and the archive does not exist
  • [13:38:54] <ericb2> XorA: but maybe I have to add some repo ?
  • [13:39:08] <av500> opkg update?
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  • [13:39:31] <ericb2> av500: let me test
  • [13:39:45] <lyakh> koen: av500: the new board seems to be better... I'll let it run for some time
  • [13:39:50] <av500> lyakh: cool
  • [13:42:45] <ssvb> XorA: mplayer should be at least a few tens of percents faster with armv5te for some codecs, that's not so impressive, but still can make a difference
  • [13:44:09] <XorA> ssvb: for mpeg without your patches it made zero difference in real cases
  • [13:44:18] <XorA> ssvb: with your patches that all changed
  • [13:45:17] <ericb2> av500: I'm testing the ethernet thing
  • [13:45:54] <ericb2> av500: I was busy until this afternoon, and the ethernet is not working. What I can say, is I need to power off the card, to make it work again
  • [13:46:23] <av500> yes, but what does dmesg say?
  • [13:46:54] <lyakh> koen: av500: nope, it held a bit longer, but then died too
  • [13:47:12] <ericb2> av500: I'll test scp'ing a big file in 5 minutes
  • [13:47:24] <av500> lyakh: thx :(
  • [13:51:05] <ericb2> av500: nothing special : the upload is stalled, and I got "no IPv6 routers present"
  • [13:51:48] <ericb2> av500: ... the upload restarted
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  • [13:54:35] <_koen_> lyakh: try if 'ifdown <interface>; ifup <interface>' works
  • [13:54:47] <lyakh> _koen_: it doesn't
  • [13:55:43] <lyakh> [ 1856.448760] smsc95xx 1-2.1:1.0: usb0: Failed to write register index 0x00000014
  • [13:55:43] <lyakh> [ 1856.456512] smsc95xx 1-2.1:1.0: usb0: Failed to write HW_CFG_LRST_ bit in HW_CFG register, ret = -110
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  • [14:03:39] <lyakh> _koen_: are these errors similar to those, that you've observed with USB yourself?
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  • [14:04:31] <ericb2> XorA: http://paste.lisp.org/display/119472
  • [14:05:18] <ericb2> XorA: I did " opkg update " just before
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  • [14:07:08] <XorA> ericb2: http://feeds.sakoman.com/feeds/gnome-r12/ipk/glibc/armv7a/base/libxaw-dev_1.0.8-r9.0.6_armv7a.ipk
  • [14:07:16] <XorA> I can see a small issue there, that is not Angstrom
  • [14:07:35] <av500> lyakh: looks like the usb is *gone*
  • [14:07:37] <ericb2> XorA: thanks
  • [14:08:23] <lyakh> av500: in territories, rich with hunting?;)
  • [14:08:58] <av500> lyakh: it also fails with another usb2eth?
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  • [14:09:35] <lyakh> av500: ok, give me a minute...
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  • [14:10:23] <_koen_> lyakh: the bug I was seeing goes away with ifdown/ifup
  • [14:10:34] <av500> lyakh: google returns 0 hits on this error except the actual source code
  • [14:10:39] <av500> so it never happens
  • [14:11:23] <_koen_> lyakh: your bug reminds of the the usb problems I was seeing when using the all the utils (dsp, isp, dss, etc) with the old 2.6.32 kernels when we didn't have proper smartreflex yet
  • [14:13:13] <lyakh> damn... do these boards have different parts? saveenv worked on mine, hangs on the new one
  • [14:13:23] <lyakh> will it still live, if I reset it now?
  • [14:13:31] <av500> lyakh: xm has no nand
  • [14:13:33] <av500> only some
  • [14:14:00] <lyakh> I know I was able to save env on mine
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  • [14:17:35] <lyakh> ok, looks like I have no choice but to reset it...
  • [14:21:54] <ericb2> XorA: what is the issue with the repo ?
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  • [14:22:35] <XorA> ericb2: thats not Angstrom, I have no idea what that repo is or if there is any bugs with it
  • [14:23:20] <ericb2> XorA: maybe there is one missing line in some config file ?
  • [14:23:53] <XorA> ericb2: you seem to be missing the point, you are not running Angstrom, ive no idea what you are running
  • [14:23:54] * ericb2 found mc in the repo
  • [14:24:28] <ericb2> XorA: ah, ok. In fact, I'm using the pre-installed distribution provided by sakoman
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  • [14:24:50] <ericb2> XorA: I dd'ed the image on the micro SD and booted directly
  • [14:25:01] <ericb2> XorA: (got a BBxM )
  • [14:25:16] <XorA> ericb2: I have no idea what that is, or what it was built with or even if it works
  • [14:25:29] <XorA> ericb2: I would hope Angstrom works though :-)
  • [14:26:06] <ericb2> XorA: if I find the way to install Angstrom, then I'l stick with it : looks very easy to use
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  • [14:26:31] <XorA> ericb2: narcissus, then install the image on your card
  • [14:26:38] * ericb2 a distribution providing Midnight Commander cannot be bad ^^
  • [14:26:54] <ericb2> XorA: I got such image. Will test it then
  • [14:27:17] <XorA> ericb2: if there is similar bugs we take bug reports at angstrom-devel :-)D
  • [14:27:36] <ericb2> XorA: what I installed is from there : http://www.sakoman.com/category/7-gnome-daily-builds-r12.html
  • [14:27:43] <ericb2> XorA: exactly this version
  • [14:28:58] * djlewis sees opencv rears its ugly head again on the list.
  • [14:30:46] <av500> djlewis: smash it
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  • [14:36:38] <XorA> opencv?
  • [14:38:40] <sakoman> ericb2: I'll add libxaw to the repo for you
  • [14:38:50] <ericb2> sakoman: thank you very much :)
  • [14:38:50] <lyakh> koen: av500: same with external usb-eth
  • [14:39:06] <av500> lyakh: ok, so as expected, it is not the SMSC eth
  • [14:39:15] <av500> its ehci that locks up
  • [14:39:25] <lyakh> yep
  • [14:40:05] <av500> lyakh: now, does this only happen when the cam capture is running, or do you get it by streaming random data too?
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  • [14:40:47] <lyakh> av500: in previous tests I could only reproduce it with capture, even when doing capture to /dev/null and independent network traffic
  • [14:41:02] <lyakh> av500: but not with either of them _only_
  • [14:41:07] <av500> lyakh: right. but capture is needed
  • [14:41:11] <av500> ye,s i remember
  • [14:41:12] <lyakh> yes
  • [14:41:29] <av500> so, could be dma clashes or bus issues on some interconnect
  • [14:41:34] <av500> ugly sutff
  • [14:41:36] <av500> stuff
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  • [14:49:01] <lyakh> av500: well, if it were a DMA issue, you would expect USB at least to show some activity on device (dis)connect, some interrupts, but it's not the case here
  • [14:49:50] <av500> yeah
  • [14:50:01] <av500> i suspect its the EHCI that "locks up"
  • [14:50:07] <av500> we have seen such things before
  • [14:50:20] <lyakh> also interesting - after such a network / USB crash video is still working
  • [14:50:28] <av500> sure
  • [14:50:31] <av500> why not?
  • [14:50:59] <av500> _koen_: sounds like a thing for ajay to me :)
  • [14:51:22] <lyakh> ...because it either can be working, or not;)
  • [14:51:43] <rahman> hello, here a new guy who just met beagleboard team from fosdem 2011. has anyone been at the beagleboard stand?
  • [14:52:04] <av500> yes
  • [14:52:11] <mru> all the cool people were there, no?
  • [14:52:16] <av500> true
  • [14:52:33] <koen> I'm missing the waffles
  • [14:52:35] <rahman> for sure :)
  • [14:53:21] <lyakh> koen: you can also get them in Aachen;)
  • [14:54:25] <av500> koen: any chance to escalate that to ti usb people?
  • [14:54:40] <rahman> I spoke with a guy who introduced to me some interesting projects on beagleboard and I want now to join the project and see how I can help and get some experience
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  • [14:55:15] <rahman> do you guys have some contacts?
  • [14:55:23] <av500> you spoke to us :)
  • [14:55:43] <rahman> great
  • [14:56:26] <rahman> so, I'm a beginner and if I can help in any way please tell me
  • [14:56:48] <av500> you have a beagle?
  • [14:57:19] <koen> av500: yes, already working on that
  • [14:57:25] <av500> koen: cool
  • [14:57:27] <rahman> not yet, "you" told me some beagles will be given away from the site, itherwise i'm expecting to byu one
  • [14:57:48] <av500> that was omar and pandas :)
  • [14:58:13] <av500> rahman: i dont think BB giveaway are planned atm, right koen?
  • [14:58:31] <XorA> koen: needs the $$$ so no free beagles :-D
  • [14:59:05] <av500> rahman: in general, get a beagle, read the website, look at existing projects, dream up your own
  • [14:59:16] <av500> hang out here
  • [14:59:37] <rahman> yeah, that I'm going to do
  • [15:01:01] <djlewis> or take an existing project and improve on it.
  • [15:01:16] <hjad> Hey guys, Do you know if there is any problem booting the beagle board with a 864x480 resolution?
  • [15:01:42] <djlewis> yeah, finding a monitor at that resolution ;)
  • [15:01:49] <av500> hjad: maybe 854?
  • [15:01:52] <GatorBoz> Kernel unable to mount root fs on /dev/mmcblk0p2
  • [15:02:03] <av500> djlewis: nope, common lcd res 854x480
  • [15:02:24] <djlewis> hmm, i gotta get out more. :)
  • [15:02:38] <hjad> djlewis, I tryed 854x480 (16:9), but it dows not boot
  • [15:02:54] <av500> hjad: what display is that?
  • [15:02:59] <hjad> when I try 864x480 it boots and show some log
  • [15:03:02] <djlewis> the resolution should not keep it from booting
  • [15:03:24] <hjad> and then I got the error in the Xorg log: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
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  • [15:03:45] <hjad> av500, I'm using a HDMI monitor
  • [15:03:46] <djlewis> smells
  • [15:04:01] * av500 smells djlewis
  • [15:04:04] <hjad> I'm using Meego,
  • [15:04:11] <djlewis> hmm, like it :)
  • [15:04:41] <hjad> When I use the normal N900 resolution (800x480) it works fine
  • [15:04:50] <hjad> but it is not 16:9
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  • [15:05:46] <hjad> I've changed the boot args and some meegotouch configurations
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  • [15:06:27] <hjad> When I try other like, boot and meego using 1024x768 it starts normal...
  • [15:07:08] <hjad> Is there another place to change the resolution configuration?
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  • [15:30:37] <Oltsu> hmhh, just installed a fresh poky, any idea if there should be something coming out of the dvi interface? :)
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  • [15:32:50] <ynezz> yep, yoectopussy time to switch to buildroot
  • [15:33:05] <av500> yoectopoky
  • [15:33:22] <GatorBoz> anyone using a root fs located in SDRAM?
  • [15:33:31] <ynezz> hm, someone registered that domain already :(
  • [15:33:37] <av500> GatorBoz: in the past
  • [15:33:58] <GatorBoz> av500: how did you direct u-boot and pass the kernel the bootargs?
  • [15:34:14] <av500> there was no uboot involved
  • [15:34:26] <av500> and the boot args were hardcoded in the kernel
  • [15:34:37] <GatorBoz> av500: i saw that option in menuconfig
  • [15:34:40] <av500> it was for professional work :)
  • [15:34:49] <GatorBoz> same here
  • [15:34:59] <GatorBoz> was it a virtual address or a physical address for the location
  • [15:35:55] <lwithers> with the Angstrom distribution, is there a way to assign a persistent MAC address to the USB/Ethernet chip on the xM?
  • [15:36:50] <ynezz> lwithers: notepad /etc/network/interfaces
  • [15:37:31] <koen> Oltsu: the short version: no beagle support on poky
  • [15:37:53] <koen> Oltsu: the longer version involves a lot of excuses why the stuff that's in there doesn't really work
  • [15:38:03] <koen> so, just use angstrom
  • [15:38:04] <av500> GatorBoz: er, it was a std ramdisk mounted as /
  • [15:39:18] <av500> GatorBoz: and initramfs was involved too IIRC
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  • [15:39:49] <GatorBoz> av500: yeah I am thinking about just putting the rootfs into the kernel
  • [15:40:10] <av500> you mean into ram
  • [15:40:37] <aholler> GatorBoz: just use CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and you are done
  • [15:41:40] <aholler> not mount, bootargs or aynthing else necessary
  • [15:41:44] <GatorBoz> aholler: in that case is it the filename location at build time on my dev machine, or the /dev/mmcblk0p2 for the CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE
  • [15:42:01] <av500> build time
  • [15:42:05] <av500> its builtin
  • [15:42:08] <GatorBoz> got it
  • [15:42:18] <GatorBoz> .tgz?
  • [15:42:24] <aholler> i assume that option has a help
  • [15:42:31] <GatorBoz> aholler: it wasn't very clear
  • [15:42:51] <GatorBoz> aholler: but ican't check as the kernel is rebuilding currently
  • [15:43:06] <av500> open a 2nd terminal
  • [15:43:14] <av500> linux has multitasking :)
  • [15:43:21] <GatorBoz> in progress, but that slows down my build :) :) :)
  • [15:43:24] <av500> too many aapl users asked for it
  • [15:43:40] <av500> GatorBoz: and please aks your boss for a new PC
  • [15:43:51] <aholler> the help is very verbose
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  • [15:44:52] <aholler> just be sure your initramfs is <16mb, otherwise you'll need a patch ;)
  • [15:44:52] <GatorBoz> cpio archives.........hmm more to learn
  • [15:45:05] <GatorBoz> aholler: and I thank you
  • [15:45:08] <aholler> read the complete help
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  • [15:45:13] <aholler> no need for cpio
  • [15:45:26] <GatorBoz> going to the doc
  • [15:45:31] <aholler> just put ONE directory there
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  • [15:46:32] <ant_work> well, putting a cpio.lzma inside will help keeping size small
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  • [15:48:30] <Oltsu> koen, the readymade image for bb on the buildbot site is just a decoy then or..? :)
  • [15:50:09] <koen> it is
  • [15:50:34] <Oltsu> that is.. so not surprising any more
  • [15:52:00] <Oltsu> i do have a contact who claims to have used it on the bb
  • [15:52:11] <Oltsu> maybe i'll have to ask for clarification
  • [15:52:18] <av500> pics or it did not happen
  • [15:53:12] <Oltsu> might be it is just a misconception
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  • [15:57:45] <aholler> putting a compressed initramfs inside a compressed kernel makes sens
  • [15:58:50] <av500> aholler: depends on whether it ends up compressed in ram in the end
  • [15:59:03] <av500> we used cramfs for our rootfs in ram
  • [15:59:11] <av500> so it stays compressed
  • [15:59:34] <aholler> but that isn't cpio ;)
  • [15:59:48] <av500> true
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  • [16:06:38] <GatorBoz> hence an initramfs would need zero u-boot bootargs
  • [16:06:55] <GatorBoz> b/c the kernel boot process would take care of everything
  • [16:07:01] <av500> GatorBoz: 0 uboot args has nothing to do with initramfs
  • [16:07:18] <av500> kernel args are easy to compile-in
  • [16:07:26] <GatorBoz> av500: but you would not need u-boot to pass bootargs to the kernel if you are doing an embedded rootfs into the kernel
  • [16:08:07] <av500> GatorBoz: 0 uboot args has nothing to do with initramfs
  • [16:08:58] <aholler> GatorBoz: it's just that you don't need any root=foo because that initramfs will automatically become your root
  • [16:09:16] <GatorBoz> aholler: that is what I am saying
  • [16:09:28] <aholler> no
  • [16:09:34] <GatorBoz> no?
  • [16:09:39] <av500> GatorBoz: you save one cmdline arg, be it from uboot or compiled in
  • [16:09:56] <aholler> how do you pass your screen resolution?
  • [16:10:10] <av500> moi?
  • [16:10:15] <GatorBoz> i should clarify, zero u-boot bootargs with respect to the root fs :)
  • [16:10:17] <av500> in the board file
  • [16:10:22] <GatorBoz> :)
  • [16:10:30] <aholler> that one generations of bb-users have to fight with ;)
  • [16:10:42] <av500> aholler: we are not speaking about the BB
  • [16:10:44] <GatorBoz> aholler: you are correct, display settings, etc are needed still
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  • [16:11:00] <av500> aholler: we went professional a while ago :)
  • [16:11:01] <aholler> ah, forget, custom foo
  • [16:12:09] <aholler> but that doesn't make it more professional ;)
  • [16:12:34] <av500> aholler: when we started to use linux, we had kernel args in boot loader ...
  • [16:12:36] <GatorBoz> yet is the key word
  • [16:13:01] <av500> then, we had a ton of internel bugs/issue because ppl had outdated boot args in their dev units
  • [16:13:12] <av500> sowe dropped it and never looked back
  • [16:13:28] <aholler> oh, you found my path? ;)
  • [16:13:34] <aholler> s/path/patch/ ;)
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  • [16:14:36] <aholler> git log --no-walk 92d2040d78f662f634efce7a5106bbed70b8708b
  • [16:14:44] <aholler> ;)
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  • [16:15:51] <av500> aholler: I can try to generare random git repos until I hit that commit :)
  • [16:16:22] <aholler> fuzzy might help
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  • [16:40:17] <aholler> GatorBoz: that thread might be of interest too: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/1/10/288
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  • [16:45:52] <GatorBoz> aholler: good reading............actually am running into compile issues with relocation out of range
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  • [16:48:54] <GatorBoz> aholler: it begs the question....why does this android filesystem need to be 54 mb??????
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  • [16:49:57] <av500> GatorBoz: you have also the other option, use a small initfs that loads the real root from nand/sd and switches to it
  • [16:49:58] <GatorBoz> now I know why the TI Devkit uses a seperate SD card partition for their android kit versus integrated init ram fs
  • [16:50:33] <aholler> you don't want to spend the ram for your fs.
  • [16:50:35] <GatorBoz> av500: yep
  • [16:50:55] <GatorBoz> 512 MB seems plenty however
  • [16:51:04] <av500> aholler: that depends
  • [16:51:04] <GatorBoz> famous last words....
  • [16:51:38] <aholler> the kernel does it automatically for you if available
  • [16:52:24] <av500> maybe the storage is a sleeping hard drive?
  • [16:52:59] <av500> GatorBoz: but yes, why do you need android in ram?
  • [16:53:23] <GatorBoz> av500: b/c the FLASH is not working
  • [16:53:30] <av500> ah :)
  • [16:53:38] <av500> well, u need to fix flash anyway
  • [16:53:45] <GatorBoz> av500: i am pursuing an all SDRAM solution at this time
  • [16:54:00] <av500> and you boot from?
  • [16:54:06] <GatorBoz> uSD
  • [16:54:22] <av500> hint: that is flash too :)
  • [16:54:28] <GatorBoz> yes
  • [16:54:34] <GatorBoz> but the stacked LPDDR/FLASH micron is not configed
  • [16:54:37] <aholler> btw. 64kb is enough for all ;)
  • [16:54:59] <GatorBoz> the root issue (no pun intended) is that the kernel isn't finding /dev/mmcblk0p2 for the rootfs
  • [16:55:14] <aholler> or was it 640kb or 64mb? can't remember ;)
  • [16:55:14] <av500> well
  • [16:55:15] <GatorBoz> things don't survive well without roots
  • [16:55:18] <GatorBoz> food roots
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  • [16:55:21] <GatorBoz> account roots
  • [16:55:29] <GatorBoz> homesteading roots
  • [16:55:31] <GatorBoz> etc
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  • [16:56:25] <av500> GatorBoz: you put a lot of effort into not fixing your real bugs :)
  • [16:56:48] <GatorBoz> av500: it gets me buy in from the top to keep the line of effort open
  • [16:57:38] <GatorBoz> I say that in a non-fraudlent manner....what I am getting at is making something work WRT an upcoming deadline
  • [16:58:02] <av500> as a demo, ok
  • [16:58:07] <GatorBoz> exactly
  • [16:58:27] <av500> show em rowboat on a BB :)
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  • [16:59:14] <av500> aholler: sorry, had 0 time today, will tomorrow
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  • [17:00:29] <GatorBoz> av500: already did, they liked it
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  • [17:36:23] <ksinkar> what is the meaning of the MLO file that is used for loading angstrom from the SDcard by the xloader?
  • [17:36:53] <aholler> mlo = xloader
  • [17:37:04] <emeb> that question will never go away...
  • [17:37:19] <mru> mlo _can_ be xloader
  • [17:37:23] <mru> the rom does not care
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  • [17:37:51] <emeb> mlo could be a bare-metal app...
  • [17:38:02] <mru> or an os kernel
  • [17:38:13] <emeb> in ds2's dreams...
  • [17:38:58] <aholler> small kernels are possible, you just don't have too much demands on such a kernel ;)
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  • [17:39:22] <emeb> does it have to be small?
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  • [17:39:37] <aholler> it must fit into the sram
  • [17:39:43] <mru> not with a configuration header
  • [17:39:57] <aholler> but than it's not a mlo
  • [17:40:03] <Ceriand|work> yes it is
  • [17:40:11] <aholler> no mlo is a file
  • [17:40:27] <mru> and a file can't have config headers?
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  • [17:40:41] <aholler> not if I've read that correctly
  • [17:40:52] <mru> hmm, could be
  • [17:40:56] <Ceriand|work> you should read that chapter of the TRM again then
  • [17:41:06] <aholler> for those config headers that must be raw
  • [17:41:06] <emeb> Ceriand|work: knows things
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  • [17:43:56] <Ceriand|work> aholler: MLO from an SD card counts as memory booting
  • [17:44:03] <Ceriand|work> so you can use a CH
  • [17:44:36] * mru looks at TRM and agrees with Ceriand|work
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  • [17:46:50] <emeb> http://nishanthmenon.blogspot.com/2009/05/configuration-header-no-more-x-loader.html
  • [17:47:15] <aholler> ??? For a FAT (12/16/32)-formatted memory card, the booting file must not exceed 128 KB.
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  • [17:47:18] <aholler> ??? For a raw-mode memory card, the booting image must not exceed 128 KB.
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  • [17:48:02] <Ceriand|work> doesn't mean you can't use a CH
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  • [17:51:15] <emeb> Bootloaders for everyone!
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  • [17:51:55] <aholler> nand for everyone ;)
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  • [17:52:22] * emeb likes Ceriand|work's x-loader that skips u-boot and goes direct to the linux kernel
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  • [17:55:22] <aholler> the ch doesn't make a difference if the file has to fit into the sram
  • [17:55:45] <mru> but it doesn't
  • [17:55:48] <mru> and that's the point
  • [17:56:09] <mru> the CH can contain dram settings
  • [17:56:10] <aholler> the discussion started with the size of the kernel
  • [17:56:18] <emeb> sorry...
  • [17:56:25] <emeb> ;)
  • [18:01:27] <ksinkar> is the source for MLO available??
  • [18:02:00] <mru> depends on what your mlo is
  • [18:02:02] <aholler> touch MLO ;)
  • [18:02:37] <Ceriand|work> http://gitorious.org/x-loader is the TI one
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  • [18:10:32] <ksinkar> so xloader loads uboot and uboot loads linux, right?
  • [18:10:48] <prpplague> ksinkar: yes that is the normal process
  • [18:12:23] <ksinkar> then why didn't they merge xloader with u-boot or substitute u-boot completely?
  • [18:12:39] <aholler> xloader is a strip down of u-boot
  • [18:13:05] <aholler> they just avoided to make u-boot that configurable that it would fit into the sram by itself.
  • [18:14:00] <aholler> taken the easy, time efficient route ;)
  • [18:14:23] <prpplague> ksinkar: initially the omap only has the internal sram initialized, which has about 32k available
  • [18:14:29] <prpplague> ksinkar: u-boot won't fit
  • [18:14:48] <prpplague> ksinkar: so x-loader is small enough to run from sram, initialize the sdram, and then load u-boot into sdram
  • [18:15:41] <prpplague> i generally use barebox or apex so that i do not need x-loader plus u-boot
  • [18:16:15] <Ceriand|work> I just modified x-load to load linux kernels directly
  • [18:16:44] <prpplague> Ceriand|work: yea i heard
  • [18:16:46] <ogra_> geez, there are still apex users ?
  • [18:16:58] * prpplague is a big fan and developer of apex
  • [18:17:37] * ogra_ had to use it for nslu2 with was the first device ubuntu images were built for
  • [18:19:05] * Ceriand|work hates it when companies distribute file in self-extracting Windows .exe's
  • [18:19:07] <prpplague> ogra_: i like to use it for products that need quick boot times
  • [18:19:13] <prpplague> Ceriand|work: as do i
  • [18:19:30] <prpplague> Ceriand|work: MS doc files
  • [18:19:42] <ogra_> yeah, its really fast
  • [18:20:28] <prpplague> ive added alot of support for splash screens and boot mode options via gpio buttons
  • [18:23:24] <ogra_> heh, nothing i ever used on the nslu2 :)
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  • [18:27:41] <_av500_> AIUI mlo from sd as file cannot have CH
  • [18:27:44] <_av500_> only from raw
  • [18:27:49] <koen> add a config header the uImage :)
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  • [18:28:19] <_av500_> will check the secret doc once more
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  • [18:29:16] <aholler> _av500_: thought that too, but haven't found that limitation again ;)
  • [18:29:58] <aholler> anyway, those 128kb limit is enough to think about ;)
  • [18:30:12] <aholler> s/thin/not think/
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  • [18:31:46] <aholler> Ceriand|work: but I could need some help with that usb-stuff. I'm having patches for u-boot ready, but something is missing. I'm initializing dpl5, enable the clocks and enable the power, but no devices will be seen, just the hub
  • [18:32:21] <Ceriand|work> the hub?
  • [18:32:40] <aholler> yes, the root hub inside omap
  • [18:32:49] <Ceriand|work> ah
  • [18:33:14] <aholler> mom, I'm starting the stuff and paste the debug output, needs a minute...
  • [18:33:36] <Ceriand|work> getting the PHY reset correctly can be tricky
  • [18:33:41] <Ceriand|work> emeb got it working once
  • [18:33:59] <aholler> I've tried that like the kernel does it
  • [18:34:09] <aholler> and some other ways. no luck.
  • [18:35:37] <emeb> Ceriand|work: yep - had a little fun getting that going.
  • [18:35:54] <emeb> Don't recall if I ever sent you the patches for it tho.
  • [18:36:01] <Ceriand|work> I don't know how the routing of the traces on the BB is, but if you can find a via or something that lets you probe the clk line going to the PHY, that'll let let you know if you setup all the clocks and power settings correctly
  • [18:36:30] <aholler> theres my problem, I don't have the hw to check the clocks
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  • [18:37:10] <Ceriand|work> emeb is probably a better person to talk to since I don't have my BB here at the moment
  • [18:37:18] <koen> mru: did you fix the bug that is causing the craneboard memory problems?
  • [18:39:12] <aholler> here is the debug output: http://fpaste.org/f4bh/
  • [18:39:47] <aholler> one usb-storage (hd) is attached
  • [18:40:17] <aholler> line 96 could be a hint
  • [18:40:49] <aholler> but not for me ;)
  • [18:43:38] <emeb> I patched Ceriand|work's x-loader to work w/ BB back in Sept '10.
  • [18:43:51] <emeb> Mostly following his suggestions on what to do - I'm no expert on this.
  • [18:44:27] <emeb> But it looks like the trick for the USB PHY was to toggle GPIO 147 low/high to reset it.
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  • [18:44:34] <mru> koen: fixed is a bit of a stretch
  • [18:44:46] <mru> I hacked something, and I'm not sure it's correct
  • [18:44:52] <aholler> I'm doing that too. At least I think so. ;)
  • [18:45:07] <koen> mru: sounds exactly like the mistral dev process
  • [18:45:19] <mru> it does make stuff run a bit faster
  • [18:45:25] <mru> but not nearly as fast as it ought to
  • [18:45:41] <mru> but then perhaps they fucked up the same was as the omap4
  • [18:45:47] <emeb> aholler: I've got a full patch with all the stuff I did if you want it.
  • [18:46:21] <aholler> emeb: would be nice, maybe I'm finding my missing stuff than.
  • [18:47:25] <emeb> aholler: here you go - http://pastebin.com/QSh9UgCV
  • [18:47:50] <emeb> this is against Ceriand|work's spark-sls git repo
  • [18:47:53] <aholler> gadiyar from ti seems to have at look at too. at least he talked about that on the u-boot-ml
  • [18:48:04] <aholler> emeb: thanks
  • [18:48:25] <emeb> aholler: NP
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  • [18:49:50] <aholler> ah, that omap_ehci_hard_phy_reset looks interesting ;)
  • [18:49:58] <emeb> oh?
  • [18:50:36] <aholler> hmm, but I've tried such too, maybe on the wrong place.
  • [18:51:18] <emeb> ISTR there was some confusion about which GPIO line to smack
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  • [18:52:07] <aholler> 147 is the one I'm using too
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  • [18:52:34] <aholler> as the kernel does that too
  • [18:52:55] <emeb> There may have been some sensitivity to the width of the pulse too, but I don't remember exactly.
  • [18:53:15] <emeb> But - there's a lot of clock & PLL setup stuff in there as well.
  • [18:53:56] <aholler> I already verified my clock stuff at least twice and I think I'll have this correct.
  • [18:54:07] <aholler> anyway, next try ;)
  • [18:54:14] <emeb> good luck...
  • [18:54:25] <aholler> if not I will wait until those ti-guy comes up with a patch ;)
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  • [18:59:56] <aholler> i still think people who are have borked the hw should write the drivers as well, so nobody else has to suffer from their work. ;)
  • [19:01:09] <aholler> but it's just a dream
  • [19:01:13] <emeb> so you want chip designers writing driver code?
  • [19:01:26] <aholler> they should at least try it
  • [19:01:38] * emeb used to design chips
  • [19:01:40] <aholler> just to know what they are doing to others ;)
  • [19:02:28] <emeb> I tried to design the register maps so they made sense, and write good dox.
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  • [19:08:19] <aholler> that one reset after ehci-initialization hasn't helped. lets try adding the second one in s_init
  • [19:11:25] <aholler> emeb: btw. line 130 looks wrong, shouldn't that be clken2_pll?
  • [19:12:54] <emeb> aholler: beats me - I was just cutting & pasting stuff from Ceriand|work.
  • [19:13:38] <aholler> doesn't help. I still must have another problem. :(
  • [19:15:42] <aholler> emeb: what's that with the changes on udelay?
  • [19:16:22] <emeb> aholler: you mean changing from udelay to spin_delay?
  • [19:16:27] <aholler> yes
  • [19:16:55] <aholler> u-boot uses sdelay there
  • [19:17:10] <aholler> which is the asm you are using in the phy-reset
  • [19:17:17] <emeb> ah - this is xloader
  • [19:17:56] <emeb> are you saying that the gpio syntax in the hard_reset routine is not compliant with x-loader semantics?
  • [19:18:05] <emeb> (it compiled OK & worked)
  • [19:18:21] <aholler> no, I just want to know whats the difference ;)
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  • [19:18:55] <emeb> good question
  • [19:19:30] <aholler> but what you are doing there looks like the stuff already in u-boot. so it seems to be ok ;)
  • [19:19:44] <emeb> whew! ;)
  • [19:20:14] <aholler> I assume it's because udelay uses timer and that is setup only later ;)
  • [19:20:28] <emeb> I believe that's correct.
  • [19:20:49] <emeb> based on the comments and hazy memories
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  • [19:30:05] <Oltsu> is this working as intended, when a image from http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ kernel panics at the sight of a usb cable?
  • [19:30:40] <aholler> panic is intended
  • [19:31:02] <aholler> makes live interesting
  • [19:32:00] <ogra_> make valerian && make zImage ?
  • [19:32:08] <aholler> and usb is a reason to get panic
  • [19:33:56] <aholler> e.g. my intel-hw doesn't like two storage devices. But at least it doesn't suffer from a sata-bug, at least none I known of
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  • [19:35:59] <aholler> here is some food for usb-panic: http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/322170.pdf
  • [19:40:08] <aholler> (the erratas)
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  • [20:06:32] <aholler> reading about omap5, I wonder who will be able to initialize all the stuff correctly ;)
  • [20:07:34] <koen> aholler: one of the M4s inside will do it for you ;)
  • [20:08:09] <koen> we already have platforms where the dsp boots the arm using even more romcode
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  • [20:17:13] <aholler> rom code doesn't sound reliable ;)
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  • [20:18:30] <emeb> wheels within wheels...
  • [20:21:34] <aholler> i think having dt until than could be usefull
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  • [20:23:33] <emeb> No specific mention of DSP cores in the bullets I saw, unless that's covered by "Multi-core imaging and vision processing unit"
  • [20:24:42] <koen> emeb: there's a mini64 in omap5 the same as in omap4
  • [20:24:57] <koen> basically half the dsp of omap3, running at half the speed
  • [20:25:28] <aholler> that doesn't like next generation
  • [20:25:34] <mru> +sound
  • [20:25:38] <emeb> koen: Ah - I remember you mentioning that about the omap4
  • [20:25:46] <emeb> better than nothing...
  • [20:25:57] <aholler> mru: yes, sorry, sometimes I only think words and forget to type them
  • [20:26:01] <mru> emeb: good luck finding any documentation on it
  • [20:26:17] <emeb> mru: internal use only?
  • [20:26:27] <mru> infernal use only
  • [20:26:32] <emeb> "no user serviceable parts inside"
  • [20:26:57] <emeb> I just got this in the mail: "Start Programming Today with DSP Software Development Tools"
  • [20:27:14] <emeb> Blurb about C6EZFlo, etc.
  • [20:27:22] <_av500_> emeb: ti still makes a ton of dsps
  • [20:27:33] <_av500_> maybe not in the omap series...
  • [20:27:36] <_koen_> emeb: the mini64 in the omap4 is hooked up straight to the audio backend
  • [20:27:37] <emeb> _av500_: no doubt.
  • [20:27:41] <aholler> they are available again?
  • [20:27:44] <aholler> ;)
  • [20:27:47] <_koen_> emeb: so you can do mp3/aac decoding with the cpu off
  • [20:27:58] <emeb> _koen_: niftles!
  • [20:28:22] <_koen_> omap5 should be the same, since that was designed to be as compatible with omap4 as possible
  • [20:28:58] * _koen_ perused the internal sharepoint last week to read up on omap5
  • [20:28:59] <emeb> Loved this quote: "Drag and drop connection I/O blocks to peripherals on the DSP without needing to know DSP code, architecture or drivers"
  • [20:29:14] <_av500_> visual dspsic
  • [20:29:25] <aholler> the solution to all problems
  • [20:29:31] <emeb> "So easy a half-trained monkey could do it!"
  • [20:29:37] <_koen_> emeb: I got the same mail, I thought it was hilarious
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  • [20:30:09] <woglinde> emeb you are one?
  • [20:30:21] <aholler> you don't need to learn a programming language but you need 2 years experience with the ide for that.
  • [20:30:21] <emeb> woglinde: I aspire to that some days...
  • [20:30:43] <aholler> and than you have to learn a new ide to be able to programm visually again ;)
  • [20:30:50] <woglinde> aholler you need 2 years for the ide works correct
  • [20:30:58] <_koen_> ccsv4 and up is eclipse based
  • [20:31:08] * emeb gave up fighting with eclipse
  • [20:31:13] <_koen_> not sure if that's a good thing, but "customers" like eclipse
  • [20:31:18] <aholler> woglinde: i need to years to find all the bugs before those can be fixed ;)
  • [20:31:50] <woglinde> koen proably all from india can only work with eclipse
  • [20:32:15] <emeb> I see more embedded tools using Netbeans these days...
  • [20:32:45] <woglinde> but the msp430 stuff was eclipse too all the years
  • [20:32:47] <woglinde> *g*
  • [20:34:03] <aholler> I still remember my first experiences with a visual design tool for c++. two months fun, than I've thrown it away.
  • [20:38:16] <aholler> all the code generators I've seen are producing horrible code you'll never want to touch.
  • [20:38:38] <mru> and forget about fixing bugs in it
  • [20:39:51] <aholler> yes, searching through a dozens of layers is a must for that
  • [20:40:28] <mru> and then you have to do it all over again if you change the model for some reason
  • [20:41:00] <aholler> yes, refactoring is good ;)
  • [20:41:01] <woglinde> uml solves all your problems
  • [20:41:33] <koen> user mode linux?
  • [20:42:26] <mru> unidentified macro lanugage
  • [20:43:24] <mru> koen: http://pastie.org/1542328
  • [20:43:47] <mru> x-load patch to get (more) correct memory timings on crane
  • [20:44:14] <mru> it sets core_clk to 400MHz and cas latency to 5
  • [20:47:42] <koen> mru: thanks!
  • [20:48:04] <aholler> no luck with that ehci-stuff in u-boot here. I'll have to wait for someone else to do that ...
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  • [20:55:42] <woglinde> yuhe
  • [20:55:52] <woglinde> disko-git compiles again
  • [20:56:02] <woglinde> why the hell they dont use hudson
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  • [21:02:15] <_av500_> aholler: ping me tomorrow on ehci in uboot
  • [21:03:51] <aholler> _av500_: it isn't urgent. I don't need and I can wait until offers a solution. ;)
  • [21:04:08] <aholler> until ti ...
  • [21:04:49] <aholler> I've read that the usb-eth should be a gsoc project, so they will need that ;)
  • [21:05:26] <woglinde> usb-eth?
  • [21:05:31] <aholler> for me it's just to get rid of the sd-card. ;)
  • [21:05:39] <aholler> woglinde: for the bb-xm
  • [21:05:49] <woglinde> hm dont get it
  • [21:05:59] <aholler> using tftp
  • [21:06:00] <woglinde> usb-eth is always there isnt it?
  • [21:06:12] <aholler> you'll need a driver
  • [21:06:20] <aholler> and that driver needs ehci
  • [21:06:32] <aholler> (in u-boot)
  • [21:06:43] <_av500_> aholler: yesm gsoc would be great too
  • [21:07:15] <aholler> _av500_: just that until then I have thrown the bb-c4 away ;)
  • [21:07:27] <woglinde> aholler uboot!
  • [21:07:30] <woglinde> now its clear
  • [21:09:29] <aholler> maybe I should think about investing in an scope. but I'll need a good reason for that.
  • [21:09:40] <_av500_> no scope?
  • [21:09:58] <aholler> nothing to use with actual frequency
  • [21:10:21] <aholler> Have to visit a company for that ;)
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  • [21:11:50] <aholler> as I already mentioned, a gsoc project to use a beagle as scope would be nice
  • [21:11:54] <aholler> ;)
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  • [21:12:40] <aholler> should be doable for frequencies up to 100mhz or such.
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  • [21:15:29] <aholler> I'm more the sw-guy, for hw I'm using avr's and breadboards ;)
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  • [21:17:46] <aholler> and just for measuring a clock on the beagle it doesn't justify to spend several hundred euros for a scope.
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  • [21:21:27] <aholler> i could exchange an a101 for that ;)
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  • [21:29:07] <prpplague> jkridner_: ping
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  • [21:29:18] <jkridner_> pong
  • [21:29:42] <quadmasta> I've got a C3 beagle
  • [21:29:52] <woglinde> wow
  • [21:30:07] <quadmasta> I know there's a jumper I can solder to force the mini USB port into the correct mode
  • [21:30:15] <prpplague> jkridner_: rusty is doing 40 xm trainers and 10 revC trainers
  • [21:30:21] <quadmasta> but I can't find the doc I read about doing it
  • [21:30:28] <quadmasta> is it J6?
  • [21:30:40] <woglinde> doing what?
  • [21:30:42] <prpplague> jkridner_: i think we've decided to do another rev of the trainer and do a production of 100
  • [21:30:54] <jkridner|work> cool.
  • [21:31:04] <prpplague> jkridner_: if there is _anything_ you want changed, now is the time to tell us
  • [21:31:05] <jkridner|work> I've got Mark Yoder interested in the Trainer...
  • [21:31:13] <quadmasta> the mini USB port is miniA/B, right?
  • [21:31:24] <prpplague> jkridner_: any feedback to make it better would be great
  • [21:31:38] <prpplague> jkridner|work: he on irc?
  • [21:31:38] <jkridner|work> he was wanting to do something with training his students to hook up useful things over SPI/I2C and I said that the trainer is the best way of doing so.
  • [21:31:42] <aholler> quadmasta: the srm (system reference manual) has instructions for that, it can be found at beagleboard.org
  • [21:31:42] <jkridner|work> nope.
  • [21:31:47] <jkridner|work> I can introduce over e-mail.
  • [21:31:53] <jkridner|work> he very rarely joins IRC.
  • [21:31:59] <prpplague> jkridner|work: ok
  • [21:32:08] <quadmasta> aholler: thanks
  • [21:32:22] <prpplague> jkridner_: any interest in making the trainer the same size as the xm?
  • [21:33:04] <quadmasta> aholler: is that port the OTG port?
  • [21:33:25] <jkridner|work> yes, I'd like to see that.
  • [21:34:00] <aholler> quadmasta: yes
  • [21:34:07] <quadmasta> thanks again
  • [21:34:29] <jkridner|work> would you be able to include any other Zippy feature, like a pinout for the serial port or a second SD slot?
  • [21:35:15] <prpplague> jkridner|work: the serial port is connected to the atmel
  • [21:35:37] <prpplague> jkridner|work: i'll see if we can fit in the sd card slot
  • [21:35:45] <prpplague> jkridner_: most likely not
  • [21:35:51] <prpplague> jkridner|work: most likely not
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  • [21:38:22] <jkridner|work> I wouldn't mind being able to bypass the Atmel at times.
  • [21:38:27] <jkridner|work> MicroSD would be fine.
  • [21:39:16] <prpplague> jkridner|work: hmm, let me look
  • [21:39:37] <quadmasta> the SRM says revision C4 includes the pad at J6 but my C3 has it
  • [21:40:08] <quadmasta> I assume if it's connected in revision C3 then one part of the pad would have continuity to ground and the other would have continuity to pin 4 on the OTG port
  • [21:40:11] <quadmasta> is that right?
  • [21:40:39] <_av500_> yes
  • [21:40:47] <fifo> Hello everyone. I'm using CraneBoard and I'm trying to boot from MMC/SD, but I'm having trouble. According to http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/CraneBoard#Booting_procedure I need to set SW4 to: SW4[8:1] <= {xx000111}_bin but the board failst to boot from MMC/SD (or show any signs of life besides some control characters over UART)
  • [21:41:06] <_av500_> bad card?
  • [21:41:12] <fifo> Possibly.
  • [21:41:28] <fifo> seemed to work when I copied images to it.
  • [21:42:04] <fifo> Tried inverting the switches in case I was oriented incorrectly, but that didn't help.
  • [21:42:23] <fifo> I've looked for a doc that describes what each switch does but to no avail.
  • [21:43:39] <_av500_> fifo: the doc is called schematics
  • [21:43:55] <_av500_> and the TRM should have a section on boot order
  • [21:44:50] <fifo> The raw TI TRM?
  • [21:45:20] <fifo> Alright I'll have another look. Thx
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  • [21:45:59] <quadmasta> looks like those wires are connected to the jumper pads
  • [21:46:17] <quadmasta> is there any way to verify that the USB port is in host mode?
  • [21:50:11] <aholler> cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
  • [21:51:25] <aholler> you can echo to that too. using the g_zero driver and an echo host >blafasle works here to use the musb in host mode
  • [21:55:16] <quadmasta> aholler: I've got some unknown angstrom distro on it right now
  • [21:55:24] <quadmasta> I get nothing if I'm plugged into the OTG port
  • [21:55:30] <quadmasta> but the host port works
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  • [21:55:57] <aholler> trying loading g_zero and that echo
  • [21:56:45] <aholler> and unload other gadget-drivers, don't know if they interfere
  • [21:57:14] <quadmasta> I don't know how to do that
  • [21:57:18] <quadmasta> can you point me toward a doc?
  • [21:57:22] <aholler> rmmod
  • [21:57:27] <aholler> lsmod
  • [21:57:48] <aholler> modprobe ;)
  • [21:58:17] <quadmasta> g_zero does not exist in /proc/modules
  • [21:58:40] <quadmasta> only module listed under lsmod is nls_iso8559
  • [22:00:15] <quadmasta> I stopped messing with my board a while back and forgot in what state I left it
  • [22:00:45] <quadmasta> looks like I've got ethernet connectivity
  • [22:01:18] <quadmasta> so USB is working through the host port
  • [22:01:52] <quadmasta> I remember someone mentioning that in the revision I've got it's "noisy"
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  • [22:19:30] <quadmasta> what's the complement to setenv?
  • [22:20:04] <_av500_> getenv?
  • [22:20:26] <quadmasta> seems so simple :)
  • [22:20:40] <woglinde> help
  • [22:20:46] <woglinde> solves all problem
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  • [22:35:21] <fifo> _av500_: I double checked the documentation. The CraneBoard wiki recommended setting appears to want to boot from UART first, MMC1 second. Didn't work. The factory setting boots from NAND, then EMAC, then USB. This works fine.
  • [22:36:34] <fifo> Do you recommend stopping autoboot and getting the U-Boot prompt using the factory boot cfg, then flashing to NAND?
  • [22:36:43] <mru> fifo: set switches 123 on, rest off for mmc boot
  • [22:36:51] <mru> works here
  • [22:37:41] <mru> you might want this x-load patch: http://pastie.org/1542328
  • [22:37:55] <mru> for a bit more speed
  • [22:38:57] <fifo> mru: tried your suggestion (that's the CraneBoard wiki recommended setting). Terminal just shows: \4\1\1\34\30\13\2\1\12\15\1
  • [22:39:38] <rellin> Is there a reason to compile the OHCI USB driver into my Beagle kernel?
  • [22:39:47] <mru> do you have a correctly prepared sd card?
  • [22:39:52] <mru> rellin: no
  • [22:40:12] <rellin> mru: can't use the OTG USB then?
  • [22:40:21] <rellin> or is the OTG a 2.0 as well?
  • [22:40:22] <mru> the chip has an ohci host controller but it's not connected
  • [22:40:25] <mru> otg is separate
  • [22:40:26] <fifo> only thing i can think of is that the vfat/fat32 partition isn't bootable, which i'll go check
  • [22:40:29] <mru> different driver
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  • [22:40:38] <fifo> otherwise, I know the images are in there.
  • [22:40:38] <rellin> oh okay cool, thanks for the help :)
  • [22:40:52] <woglinde> good nite
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  • [22:41:11] <_av500_> fifo: print the output of fdisk x p
  • [22:41:17] <_av500_> pastebin it
  • [22:41:22] <mru> and dosfsck -nv
  • [22:42:26] <fifo> my SD reader is on a windoze only box. Know of any way to do the same thing quickly? If not I'll install Cygwin (sigh)
  • [22:42:48] <fifo> anyway i can check this stuff offline, it's not really craneboard specific :)
  • [22:42:52] <_av500_> fifo: how did you prepare the card?
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  • [22:43:10] <fifo> followed CraneBoard wiki's suggestions for formatting to FAT32
  • [22:43:12] <quadmasta> damn you beagleboard!
  • [22:43:18] <quadmasta> why can't you just work?!?
  • [22:43:31] <mru> quadmasta: mine do
  • [22:43:37] <fifo> copied uImage, u-boot.bin, mlo, crane_rootfs.jffs2 to the card
  • [22:44:06] <quadmasta> mru: I've got Angstrom "running" and I can do things in x but the resolution's all goofy
  • [22:44:11] <mru> fifo: how did you format it?
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  • [22:44:21] <quadmasta> and none of my binaries seem to be accessible when I ssh in
  • [22:47:06] <fifo> _av500_, mru: I formatted a 4GB card to FAT32, no Quick Format, using HP USB Storage Format Tool v2.1.8
  • [22:47:23] <mru> never used that one
  • [22:48:50] <fifo> I'll use a Ubuntu Live CD so I can use *nix tools to check whether it's bootable
  • [22:49:32] <fifo> sorry if this turns out to be a windoze and/or user operator error
  • [22:50:04] <mru> it almost always is...
  • [22:50:10] <quadmasta> fifo: it probably is windows related, I couldn't get my card formatted right in Windows
  • [22:50:20] <mru> the good news is we can usually help get it right
  • [22:50:26] <quadmasta> or even in macOS, had to install a Ubuntu VM
  • [22:50:51] <_av500_> most likely from the fact that rom code is more strict than windows wrt fat
  • [22:51:25] <mru> shame guiness don't have an entry for strictest fat implementation
  • [22:51:27] <quadmasta> okay, nothing I'm doing seems to affect the resolution that's being displayed
  • [22:51:50] <quadmasta> mru: I believe for a while Kate Moss was the holder of that record
  • [22:52:09] <quadmasta> *rimshot*
  • [22:53:07] <quadmasta> doing an opkg update/upgrade
  • [22:53:12] <fifo> at least you guys got me to go back and prove to myself that a simple resistor divider works as it should.
  • [22:54:33] <_av500_> not as a voltage regulator
  • [22:54:57] <fifo> as an input to the boot config pins
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  • [23:20:08] <fifo> _av500_, mru: reformatted using linux fdisk
  • [23:20:19] <fifo> verified it's a bootable partition
  • [23:20:23] <fifo> same problem as before
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  • [23:45:10] <aholler> be sure to use fat16
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  • [23:48:41] <aholler> i solved a problem here on a bb c4 switching from fat32 to fat16. don't know if the crane uses the same romcode
  • [23:50:57] <rcn-ee> aholler, x-loader from the crane repo on github?
  • [23:51:34] <aholler> romcode (pressing the user button)
  • [23:54:42] <aholler> => my omap here doesn't liked the 100mb fat32 I've created, it just doesn't wanted to load mlo from it
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