[00:06:13] <k3nt> would the BB xM pinout work with the beagletouch?
[00:07:56] <buZz> not quite sure
[00:08:53] <k3nt> sure is hard to find answers to questions regarding the xM with all the content for the original
[00:09:08] <k3nt> is there an organized home for the xM yet?
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[00:41:06] <djlewis> k3nt: wouldn't be my home, it is far from organized
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[00:53:10] <k3nt> djlewis, hah, you know what I mean...
[00:53:13] <k3nt> a community home
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[01:08:07] <djlewis> :)
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[03:19:49] <kaio> is the lead time of digikey true?
[03:19:57] <mru> no
[03:20:25] <kaio> so when on stock, the date is just noth?
[03:20:32] <kaio> s/on/no/
[03:21:00] <mru> they can't predict deliveries accurately
[03:21:09] <kaio> the 15 beagle suddenly gone on Mon, so regret when my pay came on TUE.
[03:21:32] <mru> what 15 beagle? there's never any stock
[03:21:42] <kaio> I saw that on MON
[03:21:49] <mru> that was probably a lie
[03:21:57] <kaio> haha watda
[03:21:59] <mru> beagle lead time is a few weeks
[03:22:10] <kaio> a few means?
[03:22:27] <mru> 4 or so
[03:22:28] <kaio> I chat w/ CS yesterday, she said 15 weeks ...
[03:22:36] <mru> 15 is nonsense
[03:22:39] <kaio> 15 weeks is killing me
[03:22:52] <kaio> okay 4 weeks make sense more
[03:23:10] <kaio> I checked at special comp but that is $30 difference.
[03:23:17] <mru> note that I don't have any first-hand info on the actual numbers
[03:23:32] <kaio> mru??? understand
[03:23:57] <kaio> is digikey co-manufacture or they ordered final pdts?
[03:24:11] <mru> the boards are assembled by circuitco
[03:24:40] <mru> I heard they were ramping up beagle production a bit
[03:25:15] <kaio> mru??? ask a may be not appropriate question - will there new model come out soon?
[03:25:24] <mru> of beagle?
[03:25:39] <mru> I don't know if there's any minor revision due
[03:26:55] <mru> any major new model I would have heard about
[03:27:04] <mru> or I did, and am forbidden to tell you :)
[03:28:10] <mru> seriously though, I don't know what gerald and co are planning, but there's nothing major about to hit the market
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[04:11:23] <kaio> mru??? can I dev before receive the item?
[04:11:28] <kaio> e.g. qemu?
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[05:25:31] <k3nt> kaio, are you wanting to buy the rev C4 or xM?
[05:25:45] <kaio> xm
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[05:25:58] <k3nt> https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/index.htm
[05:26:09] <k3nt> i just ordered an xM from this site
[05:26:19] <kaio> I know that one, they have 100 in stock but a lot more expensive and plus postage
[05:26:46] <kaio> sth like $40 more
[05:26:49] <k3nt> true true..
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[05:27:19] <kaio> if 4 weeks as mru said I can stand that.
[05:28:21] <k3nt> and yes you can use qemu to develop, but it's likely that you'll experience different issues with the emulator than you would with the real board
[05:42:31] <kaio> I want to dev before my order arrives
[05:42:33] <kaio> :)
[05:42:45] <kaio> I think I will go for digikey..
[05:58:51] <ggreer> whenever people say digikey I keep thinking of handykey (they make a one-handed chording keyboard/mouse)
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[06:13:13] <thurbad> special comp shipped our xM's out on usps after we paid for expedited fed ex shipping, but they did at least have it in stock when no one else seemed to have it
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[06:43:55] <morrie> helllo!
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[07:51:42] <ericb2> morning good people :)
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[08:41:11] <ericb2> Yet my serial issue with BB. something maybe usefull : is it normal that I had to create a male / female cable ? Most of the NULL modem cable I see on the web, are female / female
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[08:42:42] <Russ> male/female, female/female has no bearing on null modem or straight through
[08:43:07] <Russ> just grab the beagle board manual and double check the pin-out
[08:44:02] <aholler> first check without the beagle, just make a loop from 2 to 3 and check if your typing will be echoed
[08:44:24] <aholler> so you know your sw-setup on the pc is correct
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[08:54:13] <ericb2> aholler: I'll try
[08:54:59] <ericb2> aholler: the problem I have is : I see things working, but not the serial
[08:55:11] <ericb2> aholler: so I have no information.
[08:55:30] <aholler> as I said, first try it without the beagle
[08:55:41] <ericb2> aholler: yes, I'm preparing the loop
[08:57:27] <aholler> to use a normal serial with linux (on your pc): screen /dev/ttyS0 115200 # ctrl-a shift-k to quit
[08:59:20] <ericb2> aholler: making a short circuit between 2 and 3, and I see everything I type in minicom
[08:59:31] <ericb2> aholler: excepted new line, but that's a detail
[08:59:57] <aholler> than just connect the 3 cables to the beagle. if it doesn't work, exchange 2 and 3
[09:00:17] <ericb2> aholler: I'll try
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[09:08:39] <ericb2> aholler: indeed : I can see the boot now ^^
[09:08:53] <ericb2> aholler: so cross RX / TX is not mandatory ?
[09:09:27] <av500> ericb2: connecting the right pins is mandatory
[09:09:52] <ericb2> av500: of course, but the current cable has : 2 <-> 2, and 3 <-> 3
[09:10:31] <ericb2> av500: anyway, that's fantastic : I'll take my BB card and show it at FOSDEM , and explain I'm working on OOo4Kids port on it
[09:11:02] <av500> ericb2: please come by the beagle booth
[09:11:22] <ericb2> av500: sure !
[09:11:40] <ericb2> av500: I think I'll take one screen with me. I'll buy one
[09:11:50] <av500> screen?
[09:12:10] <ericb2> av500: an LCD screen. do you have suggestions for a correct one ?
[09:12:25] <av500> hint: fosdem is $soon
[09:13:19] <av500> ericb2: http://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/GL000148/BeagleTouch
[09:13:26] <av500> stuff like this works out of the box, but is $$$
[09:13:36] <av500> and is still only 480x272
[09:14:31] <Animule> no kidding, that's twice the cost of hte computer right htere :P
[09:15:48] <basti> koen: what else do I need to bitbake qt 4.6.3 with gles? just run bitbake qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3 fails with undefined reference linker errors to QEglContext:: ... functions
[09:20:13] <ericb2> av500: the log of the boot is there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/OOo4Kids/Screenshots/1.2/logs/first_beagleboard_boot.txt
[09:20:34] <ericb2> av500: I'll add some new lines, but I think most of the stuff works as expected
[09:21:18] <mbonnin> ericb2: the warning is just here to scare people, I have always had it :-)
[09:23:41] <ericb2> mbonnin: thanks for your help, too !
[09:24:05] <mbonnin> ericb2: yes, I like to advertise for digikey ;-)
[09:26:33] <ericb2> looks like dhcp works well too
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[09:37:40] <ericb2> please refresh : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/OOo4Kids/Screenshots/1.2/logs/first_beagleboard_boot.txt has now new lines. Only ip adresses are faked
[09:38:17] <av500> damn, I cant hack into your BB...
[09:39:48] <ericb2> av500: lol. Shouldn't be too difficult to find my real ip, but less traces, better it is
[09:44:05] <aholler> ericb2: those mimo-usb-lcds are working to
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[09:47:35] <ericb2> is it normal to have :
[09:47:36] <ericb2> DRAM: 512 MB
[09:47:36] <ericb2> NAND: 0 MiB
[09:47:36] <ericb2> *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment
[09:48:32] <mbonnin> 10:25 < mbonnin> ericb2: the warning is just here to scare people, I have always had it :-)
[09:48:53] <ericb2> mbonnin: so, no Nand found, is normal, right ?
[09:49:14] <mbonnin> ah right, cant remember what I had there...
[09:50:52] <ericb2> mbonnin: in fact, later in the log, it's question of Nand. Maybe not detected immediately
[09:51:23] <ericb2> and a bit after : no Nand device found. Strange
[09:51:24] <av500> ericb2: XM has no nand
[09:51:35] <ericb2> av500: ah, thanks to enlight me :-)
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[11:07:21] <fredic> I've downloaded and Anstrong image for the beagle board using Narcissus
[11:07:46] <fredic> a SD card properly formatted, it start to load the SD
[11:08:05] <fredic> Uncompressing Linux........................................................................
[11:08:25] <fredic> my boot progress halt there
[11:08:39] <fredic> are there anyone to help me
[11:08:43] <fredic> my boot args
[11:09:00] <fredic> bootargs=console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait mem=99M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000
[11:09:11] <fredic> bootcmd=mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000
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[11:13:33] <fredic> can it cause that my beagle powered via usb otg
[11:13:39] <av500> yes
[11:14:22] <fredic> but i can do it before correctly
[11:14:43] <fredic> my u-boot.bin from demo image download page
[11:14:48] <fredic> it is important
[11:14:50] <fredic> ?
[11:16:19] <ericb2> using S video, is it correct to obtain a mire on the TV ?
[11:17:05] <fredic> now beagle access tihs point
[11:17:09] <fredic> stop at Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2...
[11:17:23] <fredic> av500,do you have any opiniion?
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[11:18:56] <av500> fredic: pastebin the full log
[11:19:24] <fredic> ok
[11:20:06] <fredic> http://pastebin.com/VZEGYnV2
[11:20:55] <aholler> thats a bit more than only ....
[11:20:57] <aholler> ...
[11:21:36] <aholler> you have formatted the sd wrong
[11:22:38] <fredic> i follow beagleboardbeginners page
[11:22:43] <fredic> for narcissus
[11:22:51] <fredic> is it wrong
[11:22:52] <fredic> ?
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[11:27:03] <fredic> random-7928d940-image-beagleboard.tar.gz
[11:27:06] <fredic> is my image
[11:27:09] <fredic> file
[11:27:22] <fredic> it is not bz2
[11:27:28] <fredic> format
[11:27:35] <fredic> i use tihs comment for untar
[11:27:59] <fredic> sudo tar -xv -C /media/rootfs -f random-7928d940-image-beagleboard.tar.gz
[11:28:03] <fredic> is it wrong?
[11:28:21] <av500> thats ok, but the kernel cannot find your rootfs partition
[11:31:48] <fredic> is there any other explanation how we can prepare SD for narcissus?
[11:32:01] <fredic> my SD may broken right?
[11:32:38] <av500> [ 16.407165] mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.1: err -16 configuring card detect
[11:32:54] <av500> aholler: is that normal?
[11:33:03] <aholler> don't know
[11:33:25] <aholler> oh, great, don't know how I've done that ;)
[11:33:32] <buZz> sweet :)
[11:33:48] <av500> i have no BB setup here, so I cant tell :)
[11:34:20] <aholler> my kernel doesn't show that
[11:34:32] <aholler> but I'm using a .37
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[11:35:37] <aholler> that blink is a black F on white background, if anyone knows the keyboard-shortcut for that ;)
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[11:37:06] <aholler> fredic: which sd you are using?
[11:37:30] <fredic> transcend 4GB
[11:38:44] <aholler> check if you have two partitions on the card
[11:38:45] <buZz> aholler?
[11:38:48] <buZz> ah
[11:38:53] <buZz> ctrl-f in irssi
[11:39:28] <aholler> someone should disable colors here ;)
[11:39:44] <av500> <teal>
[11:40:10] <fredic> i mount to card reader i can see two partition
[11:40:22] <fredic> also with sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[11:40:26] <fredic> and p command
[11:40:50] <fredic> i can see samething as beginner pages
[11:41:08] <aholler> try mounting it and have a look if it contains something
[11:41:42] <fredic> yes all folders are in boot and rootfs
[11:41:46] <aholler> anyway that isn't your problem
[11:41:56] <aholler> the kernel doesn't see the card at all
[11:42:04] <fredic> h??mmm
[11:42:11] <av500> aholler: yep
[11:42:17] <fredic> i have to change SD
[11:42:22] <fredic> ?
[11:42:33] <aholler> don't know
[11:43:04] <aholler> maybe reinsert it
[11:43:04] <fredic> :D
[11:43:21] <aholler> or try reformatting it. sd-cards are all a pain ;)
[11:43:31] <fredic> i do all steps at beginner pages 5 times
[11:43:37] <fredic> :D
[11:43:48] <av500> ??bung macht den meister
[11:44:10] <aholler> than it seems the kernel like your card. try another image
[11:44:17] <aholler> maybe the kernel is broken
[11:44:19] <fredic> i kow
[11:45:11] <fredic> i also try Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
[11:45:18] <fredic> same response
[11:45:30] <fredic> okey i have another side question
[11:45:44] <fredic> i use sudo mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/sdc1 -n boot
[11:45:47] <aholler> normally you should see something loke that:
[11:45:48] <aholler> [ 3.874572] mmcblk0: mmc0:0002 7.49 GiB
[11:45:48] <aholler> [ 3.881347] mmcblk0: p1 p2 p3
[11:46:09] <fredic> and sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc2 -L rootfs
[11:46:12] <aholler> thats a card with 3 partitions
[11:46:16] <fredic> but xorg script
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[11:46:35] <fredic> 3 partion
[11:46:39] <fredic> how
[11:46:41] <fredic> ?
[11:46:47] <aholler> you don't that
[11:47:08] <aholler> it's just an example what the kernel shows if it detects a card
[11:47:08] <fredic> yeah
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[11:47:17] <fredic> h??mm okey
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[11:47:49] <fredic> have i to use xora script for SD card formatting
[11:48:09] <fredic> http://www.xora.org.uk/2009/08/14/omap3-sd-booting/
[11:48:26] <aholler> I don't think the script is the problem. either the kernel is broken or your card
[11:48:58] <fredic> okey
[11:49:13] <fredic> i do it again with my first demo image
[11:49:25] <fredic> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
[11:49:36] <fredic> it was working 6 month ago
[11:49:53] <av500> maybe it went bad, did you keep it in a cool place?
[11:50:15] <fredic> yeah
[11:50:23] <av500> fredic: and that bz2 is just the rootfs
[11:50:28] <av500> and this is not your problem,
[11:50:40] <fredic> okey
[11:51:20] <fredic> what do you suggest me to do
[11:51:21] <fredic> ?
[11:52:06] <av500> try another card
[11:52:15] <av500> as the kernel does not seem to like this one
[11:52:18] <av500> or try another kernel
[11:52:29] <av500> as the card does not seem to like this one
[11:53:40] <fredic> okey thanks
[11:53:45] <fredic> for all
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[12:30:58] <_koen_> phone authentification for hotel wifi, that's a first
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[12:45:15] <av500> you phone who?
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[13:41:40] <aholler> does TI now provide hardfloat-sgx-libs?
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[13:43:01] <av500> nope
[13:43:20] <av500> afaik
[13:43:59] <aholler> than maybe I will have recompiled my system with hardfloat before TI offers them ;)
[13:44:47] <av500> hardfloat is so 2010, diehardfloat is much better
[13:45:24] <ogra> using --with-bruce-willis ?
[13:46:32] <av500> yes, using bruce force algorithm
[13:47:12] <av500> aholler: do sgx libs have float calls at all?
[13:47:20] * av500 has no idea about ogl
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[13:47:36] <aholler> I don't know.
[13:47:57] <aholler> but I assume the abi is different
[13:48:51] <aholler> anyway, it will need several days until I have a hardfloat-system ;)
[13:49:18] <av500> the abi for floating point function calls is different
[13:49:25] <ogra> there is a basic debian port already
[13:49:35] <ogra> should be faster to base on that
[13:51:35] <aholler> no debian here in sight, and it doesn't matter, I just let the thing compile
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[14:24:23] <tsahee_> 2nd attempt: I get omapfb errors booting the latest openembedded. Splash screen works. Tried several bootargs.
[14:24:37] <tsahee_> I have tried:
[14:24:39] <tsahee_> 'mem=88M console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 rw rootdelay=1 nohz=off omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x768MR-16@60'
[14:24:55] <tsahee_> 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M'
[14:25:10] <tsahee_> and 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait omapfb.video_mode=1024x768MR-16@60'
[14:25:57] <tsahee_> Would love any suggestions of what to try or where to look
[14:27:58] <aholler> not without the errors
[14:28:58] <tsahee_> Oh, of course:
[14:29:02] <tsahee_> omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate framebuffer omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb
[14:29:56] <tsahee_> more readable: omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate framebuffer | omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem | omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb
[14:30:18] <tsahee_> and omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -12
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[14:32:26] <aholler> use the last and add a vram=12M
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[14:33:17] <aholler> maybe that helps, don't know, I'm no omap-fb-specialist ;)
[14:34:05] <tsahee_> thank you! I'll let you know shortly
[14:34:15] <aholler> here is mine: vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x768-16@60 omapdss.def_disp=dvi
[14:34:40] <aholler> so your video_mode looks wrong too
[14:36:40] <tsahee_> I used your video mode and it worked!!
[14:36:45] <tsahee_> Thank you!
[14:37:51] <av500> its not the mode, its the vram
[14:37:55] <av500> no ram, no video
[14:42:28] <tsahee_> thank you too, av500
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[14:45:15] <Belna> can i connect a usb-mouse on an usb-otg port with an usb-hub between them?
[14:45:41] <av500> yes
[14:45:43] <av500> powered hub
[14:46:05] <mru> can I power it over musb from the ehci port?
[14:47:37] <aholler> why use the otg-port when using a hub?
[14:50:03] <ogra> mru, doesnt that only work if you loop through the hdmi port first ? :P
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[14:54:59] <gadiyar> mru: you may need to borrow power from the SD slot as well ;)
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[15:07:11] <ogra> uuuh, doesnt that spin up and down all the time ?
[15:07:42] <av500> ogra: its an old 8", it hasa lot of intertia...
[15:07:50] <ogra> heh
[15:07:57] <av500> -t
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[15:11:36] <Belna> aholler: because usb-host is defect
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[16:33:09] <blee> Hi all, is anyone familiar with using mobile broadband USB modems with beaglboard?
[16:33:18] <blee> or is that more a distro question?
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[16:36:36] <mdp> distro
[16:36:44] <blee> Okay :)
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[16:37:07] <mdp> you can follow any general guide on setting up a connection to provider using the ACM modem
[16:39:13] <blee> Hmm, im afraid im not familiar with the term ACM, i suppose thats what drives USB modems?
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[18:13:45] <ericb2> ahh ..
[18:13:55] * ericb2 got the hdmi working
[18:14:02] * ericb2 dancing the happy dance ^^
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[18:33:29] <xxiao> anyone here playing android on beagle
[18:33:38] <av500> not many
[18:33:48] <xxiao> so just OE :)
[18:33:57] <av500> xxiao: oe or ubutnu mostly
[18:34:03] <av500> or other linux
[18:34:13] <prpplague> xxiao: there is a beagleboard android project called rowboat
[18:34:28] <xxiao> i know that, it's a dead channel
[18:34:36] <prpplague> xxiao: http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/BeagleBoard
[18:34:45] <av500> prpplague: yes, he knows that
[18:34:56] <av500> but this project might have even less than the "2" :)
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[18:35:28] <xxiao> ok, for BBxM, when i play youtube on my 24" LCD, the quality is really bad
[18:35:40] <av500> xxiao: using what?
[18:35:58] <xxiao> android that is(rowboat), enabled its DSP and graphics already
[18:36:09] <xxiao> does ubuntu/oe included dsp/sgx also?
[18:36:30] <xxiao> i just wanna see how good the video and graphics can be
[18:36:40] <xxiao> for what screen size,etc
[18:36:48] <av500> xxiao: it also depends on what res utube picks
[18:37:36] <xxiao> as i didn't install flash on android, i assume youtube is playing out its mp4 version?
[18:38:16] <av500> if its the mobile site, the quality is bad anyway
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[18:39:48] <xxiao> looks like it picked up the mobile mode for me automatically
[18:40:02] <xxiao> though i'm using BBxM as a desktop alike with a LCD
[18:40:05] <av500> yes, it does that for android based on the UA
[18:40:10] <xxiao> i c
[18:40:21] <av500> and the mobile vids are like qvga
[18:40:35] <xxiao> no wonder it's terrrible on 24"
[18:40:50] <av500> xeah
[18:40:55] <av500> yeah
[18:41:17] <xxiao> say, if i want to use BBxM as a Signage, will it be able to drive a large TV
[18:41:40] <av500> large as in large pixesl? :)
[18:41:49] <av500> 720p wprks
[18:41:51] <av500> works
[18:41:59] <av500> 1080p@24 fps works for some too
[18:42:04] <xxiao> i guess not, e.g. 42"
[18:42:39] <aholler> the screen size doesn't matter, just the resolution
[18:42:44] <xxiao> ok.
[18:42:47] <av500> if your signage does not need live video, you could go 1080p
[18:42:58] * av500 needs to try that on his bb soon
[18:43:11] <xxiao> so S-video is the only connection right?
[18:43:17] <xxiao> i don't think my TV has DVI
[18:43:22] <av500> xxiao: lol
[18:43:30] <av500> you will need a new TV :)
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[18:44:17] <xxiao> my TV is not old...it has lots of HDMI/VGA/etc
[18:44:22] <xxiao> will DVI work ?
[18:44:23] <av500> HDMI is ok
[18:44:25] <av500> yes
[18:44:29] <xxiao> just no audio?
[18:44:32] <av500> yu
[18:44:34] <av500> yup
[18:44:52] <xxiao> HDMI is close to DVI but i don't know the real difference other than the big missing of audio
[18:45:11] <xxiao> that's easy for me to try, grab ubuntu now...
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[18:46:30] <xxiao> omapedia's ubunut link should be the best entrance, i assume
[18:46:48] <av500> that or the rcn-ee_at_work stuff
[18:47:40] <ogra> the ubuntu natty images should have audio on HDMI automatically
[18:48:00] <ogra> alsa UCM just hit upstream and is supposed to enter ubuntu the next days
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[18:48:18] <av500> ogra: not on the BB :)
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[18:48:29] <ogra> i was told it will also work on the BB
[18:48:33] <ogra> oh, no HDMI
[18:48:37] <ogra> right ;)
[18:48:37] <av500> yeah
[18:48:47] <xxiao> BB you mean RevC?
[18:48:53] <ogra> UCM should cover BB too though
[18:49:04] <av500> xxiao: any rev
[18:49:13] <av500> no audio over hdmi on the BB
[18:49:14] <xxiao> my BB revb is useless
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[18:49:26] <av500> why?
[18:49:31] <xxiao> b5 that is
[18:49:41] <xxiao> 128MB too limited
[18:49:50] <av500> sell it
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[18:50:30] <xxiao> well i don't mind donating it, who wants it these days
[18:50:48] <xxiao> BBxM or RevC is the way to go
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[18:52:12] <ogra> take an Xm
[18:52:21] <ogra> revC needs a hub etc etc
[18:52:31] <ogra> Xm has everything on board
[18:52:45] <xxiao> true
[18:53:15] <aholler> but xm needs power, for the bb otg is enough
[18:58:16] <ogra> aholler, well, i guess power isnt much of an issue in the case of a settop box
[18:58:39] <av500> ogra: maybe if you take it on camping trip
[18:58:49] <ogra> heh
[18:59:09] <av500> but then the 42" is the real issue
[18:59:25] <ogra> well, use a pocket projector ;)
[19:00:36] <aholler> if that should get a settop box, i would choose something with audio over hdmi
[19:00:46] <aholler> anything else is a pain
[19:01:30] <aholler> and maybe something with real network ;)
[19:01:31] <xxiao> hold on, can the 'hdmi' on BBxM carry audio if i hook it to a TV hdmi?
[19:01:35] <ogra> and something that does 1080p :)
[19:01:53] <xxiao> are you guys talking about Tegra3?
[19:01:55] <xxiao> :)
[19:02:02] <ogra> rather pandaboard
[19:02:17] <aholler> that has no rtc
[19:02:21] <aholler> unusable ;)
[19:02:36] <ogra> it has wifi and there is ntp
[19:04:06] <av500> xxiao: no
[19:04:30] <av500> xxiao: the hdmi on the BB is just DVI with hdmi connector
[19:04:31] <av500> no audio
[19:04:36] <xxiao> so i hav eto use the 3.5mm then
[19:04:41] <av500> yes
[19:04:54] <av500> or you hook an spdif tx with mcbsp
[19:04:55] <xxiao> anyway, during testing android, i found the MicroSD card made a huge different
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[19:05:21] <xxiao> for the default SD i got when buying BBxM, it worked well with Angstrom, but not for android
[19:05:26] <ericb2> I forgot : the hdmi works on my TV ( 42" or so )
[19:05:31] <xxiao> switch it to Sandisk all worked perfectly
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[19:05:40] <xxiao> ericb2: video that is?
[19:05:41] <ericb2> looks like 1024x768@60
[19:05:50] <ericb2> xxiao: no, just the BBxM
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[19:06:02] <ericb2> xxiao: I'm just discoverring the beast ^^
[19:06:09] <xxiao> ericb2: yes i have BbxM
[19:06:13] <aholler> I wonder when universities will start to offer a course about sd-cards. seems to be a new science
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[19:06:26] <ericb2> xxiao: now will start the real work : read bunch of doc, and create what I need
[19:06:49] <xxiao> what beast you just found? i'd like to find a beauty instead
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[19:07:11] <xxiao> the omap35x document is about 3500 pages
[19:07:38] <av500> like the number
[19:07:43] <av500> now you know where it is from :)
[19:08:58] <ericb2> xxiao: yes, was just my limited english : the BBxM is fantastic
[19:09:05] * ericb2 will take it at FOSDEM
[19:11:04] <jacekowski> i don't even want to look at omap4xxx datasheets
[19:11:36] <prpplague> jacekowski: they are about the same as omap3
[19:11:53] <jacekowski> and tbh these are not the best written datasheets
[19:12:06] * prpplague agrees
[19:12:21] <ogra> prpplague, following av500's theroy there have to be 4400 pages then
[19:13:12] <prpplague> ogra: seems like that is about right
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[19:24:42] <_av500_> its more like 5k, no?
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[19:33:16] <xxiao> i recommend to combine beagle/pandaboard channels
[19:33:26] <xxiao> omap*
[19:34:03] <xxiao> just rename pandaboard to 'boardbackorder' and the rest come over to beagle
[19:34:55] <prpplague> xxiao: beagle and panda are sponsored by two different division inside TI
[19:35:17] <xxiao> for that matter, craneboard, or any animal/insect-board should join here, they're all cloning the beagle model anyway
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[19:36:36] <xxiao> irssi does not have the best multi-window mode so less channel is better
[19:37:06] <mru> #animalboard ?
[19:37:14] <mru> to go with animalboard.org
[19:37:26] <xxiao> like that, really
[19:38:08] <xxiao> plus rowboat should be changed to steamboat to gain some traction
[19:38:23] <mru> boat, traction... hmmm
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[19:38:31] <_av500_> prpplague: "xxiao: beagle and panda are sponsored by two different division inside TI"
[19:39:03] <_av500_> prpplague: and they dont talk? :)
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[19:40:29] <xxiao> _av500_: TI's arm is from India, FSL's arm is fro Isarel, too far to talk internally for them
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[19:41:04] <xxiao> it's no surprice totally unrelated team are behind the same marketing-termed chips
[19:41:09] <prpplague> _av500_: long story, but no
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[19:43:52] <_av500_> prpplague: i know the story :)
[19:43:54] <xxiao> rcn-ee.com is updated last Nov...
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[19:47:04] * xxiao checking http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Demo_Image
[19:47:57] <xxiao> ompedia.org's ubuntu images pointed to netbook only?
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[19:48:35] * xxiao checking http://omapedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Known_Issues
[19:51:16] <TheLorax> I just downloaded linux-omap-2.6-omap-2.6.32-2a20002.tar.gz do I need any patches to get this working with beagle-xm rev.a?
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[20:21:46] <djlewis_> gm
[20:22:03] <_av500_> gm
[20:22:15] <_av500_> TheLorax: from where?
[20:22:15] <djlewis_> _av500_: you at fosdem?
[20:22:19] <_av500_> yup
[20:22:22] <_av500_> you to?
[20:22:26] <_av500_> too?
[20:22:43] <TheLorax> _av500_: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/omap-2.6.32;hb=refs/heads/omap-2.6.32
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[20:22:57] * _av500_ thinks thats best for all :)
[20:23:06] <djlewis_> :)
[20:23:09] <_av500_> :)
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[20:23:45] <_av500_> TheLorax: to be frank, no idea
[20:24:06] <_av500_> you might want to at least grab a known working .config from e.g angstrom
[20:24:16] <TheLorax> that's what I did
[20:24:18] <TheLorax> compiling...
[20:24:33] <TheLorax> but it's compiling on the beagle itself...so we;ll see how long that takes
[20:24:48] <TheLorax> the angstrom image has TONS of extra stuff in it
[20:25:10] <TheLorax> even wireless, DVD, every single filesystem
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[20:39:55] <ynezz> TheLorax: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/builder/
[20:40:26] <ynezz> but don't know about the speed, they've some warez there, so it might be slow as hell
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[20:59:53] <fifo> Hello everyone.
[21:00:15] <fifo> Does anybody know if CraneBoard will support SD cards of 2GB or more?
[21:03:03] <_av500_> fifo: it should
[21:04:46] <fifo> Thanks.
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[21:16:16] <TheLorax> ynezz: I left that thing on overnight....dosn't work
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[22:28:28] <siegen> hi
[22:29:05] <siegen> where can i get the linux-omap-2.6.32 recipe and files patches?
[22:29:24] <siegen> i am not able to see it in my recipes of my oe tree
[22:30:17] <siegen> i just can see up to 2.6.31
[22:31:47] <rellin> Does anyone know why I might be getting this kernel panic after mounting my rootfs and freeing init memory?
[22:31:55] <rellin> The panic looks like this: Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.
[22:32:50] <rellin> This is in the kernel bootup phase, before getting to a terminal.
[22:33:39] <Ceriand|work> hmm, "No init found"... maybe it couldn't find your init executable
[22:34:03] <djlewis_> rellin: just curious, how are you powering the beagleboard?
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[22:36:49] <rellin> djlewis_: with this 5v 1000ma PSU i found lying around
[22:37:34] <rellin> Ceriand|work: well the few lines prior to it seem to indicate the filesystem was mounted properly.
[22:37:59] <Ceriand|work> what was your kernel cmdline?
[22:38:24] <djlewis_> rellin: sounds fine
[22:38:28] <rellin> Sorry, not sure what you mean by that?
[22:38:54] <djlewis_> rellin: Ceriand|work ?? ^^^
[22:38:56] <Ceriand|work> in dmesg, what does "Kernel command line:" say
[22:38:59] <rellin> djlewis_: yeah I saw some people mention bad PSUs screwing them up. Sometimes when I boot the kernel doesn't launch at all.
[22:39:37] <rellin> Ceriand|work: I can't really make it to a terminal to check that.
[22:40:03] <rellin> oh wait it prints out
[22:40:04] <Ceriand|work> it scrolls by before your error occurs
[22:40:13] <rellin> Kernel command line: root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait console=ttyO2,115200
[22:40:48] <Ceriand|work> is the /sbin/init file on your SD card there and set as executable?
[22:40:48] <rellin> djlewis_: sorry that was to Ceriand :)
[22:42:09] <rellin> My SD card has a boot partition and a data partition. I have a file called rootfs.ext2 on the boot.
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[22:42:22] <rellin> I gotta mount that rootfs.ext2 to check heh, one moment
[22:42:48] <Ceriand|work> no, you're supposed to copy all the files in rootfs.ext2 to a ext2/3 formatted data partition on the SD card
[22:43:02] <Ceriand|work> you can't just have it as an image file on the FAT partition
[22:43:12] <rellin> Oh really?
[22:43:15] <Ceriand|work> yea
[22:43:17] <rellin> That could solve my problem then haha
[22:43:27] <djlewis_> interesting
[22:43:43] <Ceriand|work> well, there are ways to do it, but it's more complicated
[22:43:53] <rellin> I'm going for simple right now :)
[22:45:30] <rellin> so is there some special way I should do this copy to make sure permissions dont get messed up?
[22:45:36] <rellin> I have no idea how copy works heh
[22:46:00] <Ceriand|work> mount both
[22:46:10] <rellin> That's where I'm at
[22:46:18] <Ceriand|work> sudo cp -a image/* target/
[22:46:32] <rellin> oooh i was about to use -t
[22:47:33] <Ceriand|work> -a will recursively preserve all permissions, ownership, and not deref symbolic links
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[22:48:41] <rellin> Glad I asked, haha. Thanks :)
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[22:51:37] <rellin> Yaaaaaaaaay you fixed it! Thanks again Ceriand!
[22:51:43] <Ceriand|work> np
[22:56:13] <rellin> Oh man it's stuck at Starting network ... Still no command line :(
[23:00:13] <TheLorax> so I've just built a kernel. I got a zImage file. I'm guessing that's gz compression. What is the uImage? I'm getting an error at boot that says "incorrectiamge format"
[23:00:35] <Ceriand|work> uImage is a zImage with a special u-boot wrapper
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[23:00:55] <Ceriand|work> technically it could be a bzImage or just an Image too I believe
[23:00:55] <TheLorax> can you tell me how to convert a xImage to uImage?
[23:01:39] <Ceriand|work> man mkimage
[23:01:49] <TheLorax> thanks
[23:02:13] <Ceriand|work> if you're using a debian-like distro it's in the package uboot-mkimage
[23:02:30] <Ceriand|work> or you can compile it from the u-boot sources
[23:02:48] <TheLorax> gotta love open-source support. I hardly expected an answer
[23:15:35] <TheLorax> well, looked ok at first. but now it just stops at "Uncompressing Linux........."
[23:15:46] <TheLorax> with tons of disk activity
[23:17:21] <buZz> maybe you started the kernel with 'quiet' as option
[23:17:26] <buZz> then it outputs no messages
[23:18:07] <TheLorax> no network activity, also it's sitting at 0.25 amps, normally hits ~0.8 during a boot
[23:18:12] <rellin> TheLorax, that happened to me. For some reason changing the target address on bootm fixed it.
[23:18:20] <buZz> i want your PSU :)
[23:18:33] <TheLorax> 250 CND ;)
[23:20:47] <TheLorax> I actually have no idea what the load address and entry point are.
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[23:21:34] <Ceriand|work> it you're building a kernel from source, make uImage should give you a uImage with the correct settings
[23:21:39] <Ceriand|work> s/it/if
[23:21:51] <buZz> ah, CAD
[23:22:17] <TheLorax> I did form source. I downloaded right out of the omap tree (a tagged version)
[23:22:37] <Ceriand|work> then "make uImage" should be what you want
[23:22:47] <TheLorax> k, I'll give that a shot
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[23:35:39] <TheLorax> no good. just stops at "Uncompressing Linux............"
[23:37:49] <Ceriand|work> TheLorax: what's your bootcmd?
[23:38:07] <TheLorax> don't know. I'm a noob with uboot
[23:38:19] <_av500_> unoob
[23:38:26] <Ceriand|work> _av500_: lol
[23:38:31] <woglinde> maybee you made the serial console wrong
[23:38:34] <woglinde> hi av500
[23:38:36] <Ceriand|work> TheLorax: printenv
[23:39:33] <TheLorax> sec..it runs off the end of the screen
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[23:45:02] <AlTheKiller> ^a l
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[23:46:05] <_av500_> woglinde: hi
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[23:52:57] <TheLorax> hey, sorry that took so long
[23:52:58] <TheLorax> http://codepad.org/J8AH6bZt
[23:53:05] <TheLorax> that's printenv
[23:53:50] <Ceriand|work> change console to ttyO2,115200n8
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[23:54:31] <TheLorax> what's that do?
[23:54:51] <Ceriand|work> in newer kernels, they renamed the serial ports from ttyS to ttyO
[23:55:01] <_av500_> dont ask why
[23:55:24] <rcn-ee> who's up for renaming it again? ;)
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[23:55:44] <_av500_> ttyBB
[23:55:59] <_av500_> ttyTI
[23:56:10] <_av500_> ttyCOM1
[23:56:23] <TheLorax> hahah, com
[23:56:29] <TheLorax> that would make people made
[23:56:47] <TheLorax> mad
[23:57:00] <_av500_> ok, COM it is
[23:57:38] <rcn-ee> would we start with COM0 still? or do th m$ thing..
[23:58:21] <_av500_> and /dev/sdA:
[23:58:53] <TheLorax> btw, I don't have boot.scr
[23:59:08] <_av500_> then uboot uses defaults
[23:59:24] <TheLorax> oh, and look....it says "done, booting the kernel"
[23:59:30] <TheLorax> but nothing after